Dedicated blog digs up dirt on Meghan Markle

You heard it here first.

Kate's new homepage, I'm sure.

Someone is butt hurt that Meghan is no longer speaking to them.

The owners are probably DLers posting on the Meghan vs. Kate thread. It's insane how much this woman triggers them!

Other sites are not dedicated, R1. This one is nothing but Meghan, Meghan, and Meghan, 24/7!

Older fraus and frau-adjacent gay men [italic] HATE [/italic] her.

So, what's the scoop on the Duchess of Sparkle Sex then, without having to plow through the nitty-gritty?

The last post on that blog was 3 weeks ago.

I think that they hate her because they feel if Harry was gonna marry an American girl, why not get a white one??? If no them, then their daughters or granddaughters or nieces.

White women have fucking issues!

R7, The same horrible MM relatives, or at least 2 of them, claim that she shouldn't be around children. No reason given.

YAAAAAWWWWWNNNN! Stop being jealous peasants and find something more interesting, ding-a-lings.

R9, whatever you do, do not imply to them that Meghan and Harry are more popular with younger people than golden couple, William and Kate. They will lose their shit!

So according to that site Steve Mnuchin , Trumps Sec. of the Treasury, was banging her for money when he was a Hollywood producer and she was a briefcase girl on Deal or No Deal?

Jesus it's a small world . . .

This is why people hate social media.

Seriously, what has this woman done to inflict such hate (aside from her the obvious- that she's half black)?

Sparkle Spice--you in danger girl!

This latest invasion of Tumblr fraus really is the most tedious. No one cares what some racist Harry stan thinks. I dislike the royal family immensely as a concept, but it’s crazy to think the secret service didn’t fully screen her before letting her marry Harry. Whatever secrets she has - and I don’t believe all this guff about secret marriages - they know.

Of course the stans behind that blog think the entire wedding was staged as part of some elaborate Dick Dastardly-style scheme the Queen personally came up with to get rid of her, because the royal family are so afraid of Meghan they decided to fake an entire royal wedding televised to a sixth of the world population rather than simply making her fuck off back to Canada.

It’s anazing how literally every single “straight” male celeb on the planet has been blackmailed into a fake marriage/relationship with a grasping narcissist with secret past marriages and a secret past as a prostitute that no one apart from Tumblr fans know about, isn’t it?

OP, did you also start the "why are gays so bitchy" thread? Ever consider that maybe it is you with the problem?

That Joe Giuliano person looks like a FTM trans. Does no one else think so?

Hate, nothing--- this is too much fun!

That first husband stuff is such bullshit. If that story was true, her family would be blabbing their heads off far worse than they already did.

So they make up stories about her or insult her multicultural hair because it frizzed up a little bit at the wedding. Personally I think that she's better looking than Kate, but Kate, surprisingly, does have better legs.

Damn, these old bitches are crazy and bitter!

[quote]you can get it all here, folks!

But when would we want it?

MM tries to hide her skinny legs in every photo shot.

"Skeeter" tits as we call them in NJ. Misquote bites are bigger.

"Skeeter tits" as we call them in NJ. Mosquito bites are bigger.

I don't think there's anything left to be dug up. If anyone had anything, they would have cashed in prior to the wedding.

"This is a sarcasm/satirical site exposing Meghan Markle. We will not be silenced!! This is a tumblr tribute to felix2001a and iamstillskippy. The two bloggers have been shutdown by tumblr. Guess what? Meghan Markle is afraid that she will be exposed. Her days are soon to end. FYI: Try to shut us down and I have backups. Just in case."

"Seriously, what has this woman done to inflict such hate (aside from her the obvious- that she's half black)? "

She's a massive social climber, that's why! Some people hate that, it makes them feel bad about their own shitty lives. I don't hate her for it, in fact I enjoy watching people do things at a high level of skill, and Nutmeg is an absolutely brilliant climber.

Now if she's a gold-digger, she's not so great at that. Harry doesn't have that much money, and won't earn more or inherit more. But who knows, maybe the next husband will have the bucks, because yeah - she's a brilliant and talented climber.

Was she really a stripper? Some are claiming that MM was one.

OP, ENOUGH!

If she’d ever been a stripper someone would have dug out some evidence. The stripper rumour comes from the Tumblr crazies, and they’ve made the same claim about at least a dozen random women married to celebs or actors.

[28] "Skippy" or whoever she really is, is probably the twin of one of the insane Cumberbatch Tumblr group who, despite the fact that the world has already moved past the the "Internet Boyrfriend" and his five minutes of fame, are still telling spending huge amounts of time every day assuring each other that Cumby's wife is a human trafficker, a drug addict, their marriage illegal, their children either secretly adopted or photoshopped into pap snaps, and that this is all possible because Mrs C. has enough dirt to blackmail all Cumby's friends, his family, the CoE vicar who married them, and the Portland Hospital where the Cumberbatch kids were born, from telling the truth to the world. Anything rather than admit that "Dorkybatch" voluntarily fucked, impregnated, and married Sophie Hunter instead of one of them.

Skippy is either one of them and just transferred her rage at being overlooked by Cumby to being overlooked by Harry, or modelled her Tumblr blog on one of theirs and is pushing the same narrative: the marriage wasn't real (because there were folding chairs in the Chapel), and besides no invitations were ever really sent out, and the only reason poor Harry went through with it and the BRF allowed it is because Meagain has a huge amount of dirt on Harry and blackmailed them into giving permission.

You couldn't make this shit up.

All that said, Meagain probably has a few concerning blots on copybook, but what with Harry being 33 and 6th in line, the BRF took a good look, shrugged, and said, "On Harry's head be it." They can use Meagain to blow their "See we look just like 'modern' Britain, too!" horn (never mind that the UK is still nearly 80% white, you just can't tell in London or Tower Hamlets of Bradford or Blackburn) - and if the marriage goes south, of which there is at least a 50-50 chance, no one will turn around and point a finger at them and say, "If only you hadn't been so racist and let him marry the one he really loved . . .!"

Works out well for all concerned. The BRF look like they're movin' with the times, Harry gets his fantasy woman, Meagain gets her fantasy life . . . she'll be pregnant by the end of the summer and get her insurance policy out ASAP.

She's a social climbing phony grifter, he's a dim bulb. Reality will hit sooner or later, but till then . . . all signs point to sunny weather.

So much kerfuffle over a balding idiot and a too-thin schemer. I think they will be together a long time, as the idiot will enjoy the sprogs that the schemer will drop.

Does anyone have a link to a tumblr dedicated to ‘exposing’ Markle that was posted on a thread here before the wedding?

It's a soap opera on a grand scale - what don't you scolds get about that? Many people worldwide have kept loose tabs on the BRF since Diana; this is another chapter in the saga - the storybook ending, or not, for Diana's orphaned son.

Scheming Meghan is like a Z-grade Alexa and dopey Kate is Krystal, or something.

Meghan, with her two blogs, social media, interviews, and speeches, left an endless electronic trail of her own thoughts and deeds - she called herself RUTHLESSLY AMBITIOUS - so many people, LOOKING AT MEGS' OWN WORDS do find her a convenient villainess.

THE BACHELOR is one of the most popular shows in the country, this is even better, and REAL.

All exposure is good, bitches. Get used to it.

I think she just used Harry as a Trojan Horse to be in the R F . I don’t think Harry is her goal but two others are . William the future heir to the throne and Charles the next king . She is really ambitious ! Her goal is to be queen nothing more nothing less . As for the gold digging if it’s not her it will be someone else . That’s what I think . Camilla and Kate better watch out for her . She will be going over dead bodies to reach her goal .

That inbreed ginger was lucky to score such a hot, cool girl.

And I hope she does become Queen no matter what R38

Agree with the above posters that the real life soap opera make MM machinations an interesting watch. Do you think other women have connived celebs into marriage contracts?

[40] Depends on how you define "connive" and "marriage contracts". I doubt Meagain had to do much conniving beyond recognising Harry's vulnerabilities and playing to them like Heifetz on a violin, combined with ensuring a real vaginal catch. And as in much else in life, timing is everything: right woman in the right place at the right time, and lots of other cards fall into place. Contract? As noted on another thread, Harry refused to sign one, they only have as much legal force in the UK as the presiding judge chooses to give them on a case by case basis, and the BRF knows how to protect itself by now. The only money at risk will be Harry's own, and that's on him.

But other contracts among European royalty aren't uncommon, especially where offspring are concerned, the royal in question is the Crown Prince and in line to succeed the reigning parent, and the new spouse is foreign. In a place like Denmark, I'd be surprised if the erstwhile Mary Donaldson, before marrying Crown Prince Frederik, had to sign an agreement that stated that in the event of a divorce and her deciding to return to her native Australia, the kids remained in Denmark, in the custody of the Danish Royal Family - they belong first to Denmark, not to their mother.

But that's different from financial araangements. The only thing Meagain connived Harry into was marrying her and setting her up for life in a role she has fantasised about all her life, but never could have obtained without him. She'll behave - after all, Charles and HM hold the purse strings, and she has to pop out 1 or 2 sprogs before she's really "safe".

The marriage will last as long as Meghan is willing to be dim-bulb Harry's minder, manager, comforter, conscience, and, well, nanny. Which won't be that long, I give it a few years and a baby or two.

And R38, if she's after Charles or William, who are the truly big fish, the best role she can hope for with them is that of mistress. Which isn't impossible (I've already wondered if Harry is gay and the only reason he's marrying such an unsuitable beard is that she's already involved with someone else in the royal family), but neither of them would EVER marry her under ANY circumstances. They could give her a better lifestyle than Harry, but they couldn't, or wouldn't make her queen.

[38] You really think Sparkles' ambitions run that high? Because marrying Harry and becoming an HRH and guaranteeing her (now 75% white) offspring security, status, and a place in "history" is in itself quite a coup. Ever read that old fairy tale "The Fisherman and the Sea"? Look it up - an overly ambitious wife does her kindhearted husband out of fortune and favour by insisting that he ask his Sea Prince benefactor for increasingly better rewards. In the end, the magical fish rescinds it all and the fisherman goes back to his hovel.

"Oh Prince of the sea/Come listen to me/for Alice my wife/the bane of my life/hath sent me to beg a boon of thee."

Or, as Theresa Russell's character in "Black Widow" put it - "The trick to any of this is knowing when to stop." Of course, she didn't - but I'm guessing that Meagain's demons are under better control.

Unless, of course, Charles or William fall into the same honeytrap Harry did. But they'd never be able to keep that under wraps, and Harry (who I don't think is gay) would be destroyed.

Don't see it happening. But hey - I could be wrong.

OK all you forecasters. Riddle me this: what will happen if MEaGAIN is unable to bear a child with Harry.

"The doctor said that inside Meghan is a hard and stoney place upon which my seed could find no purchase"

R44 nothing. Kate has three heirs. I think they'd all be pleased if Sparkle didn't pollute the bloodline.

[44] - What will happen if MeAgain is infertile is that the Harry will be devastated but the BRF privately delighted and too smart to show it. Harry and MeAgain will divorce after a decent interval, like 3-4 years, and Harry will return to the fold with a nice white English girl so he can breed properly. MeAgain will keep her title of "Duchess" and a hefty financial settlement, but not her HRH. The Duchess of Cambridge will host a private party to celebrate.

I always figured that Kate was highly alarmed at the appearance of Cressida Bonas in the Harry Marriage Stakes - Bonas is what Kate pretends to be: a real English Rose aristo. I think Bonas was prettier than MeAgain AND Kate. And William once proposed to her sister, Isabella Calthorpe. I doubt the Middletons were pleased with the prospect of the GenUWine Article competing with Kate in the Royal Spouse gallery.

Comes under the heading of Be Careful What You Wish For. Cressida's gone and now Kate has the activist/feminist/hit the ground running/humanitarian/can't wait to get out there in front of the cameras/novelty act on her neck.

Of course, there's always the possibility that in case of infertility, H&M grandstand by adopting a black baby from Africa, if they can get away with it, although it's likely that those child/ren, as adoptees, will be deprived of a place in the line of succession.

But the fact is, MeAgain is still under 40 - fertility may statistically take a sharp drop at 35 but it hardly disappears. And let's face it, if she has trouble getting pregnant, no expense will be spared in pursuing every last potential medical advance to help her.

Isn't there something about RF heirs having to be "of the body"?

[47] - Children born out of wedlock or adopted are ineligible to succeed to the British throne. Here, DNA rules.

Had it been otherwise, Henry VIII could have put any one of the male children he sired out of wedlock in place and the whole debacle with all those wives wouldn't have happened as he desperately tried for a legitimate male.

Just think: Anne Boleyn could have married Henry Percy, son of the Earl of Northumberland after all, and died with her head still attached to her shoulders!

Meghan isn’t alone in this. Crown Princess Mary had a dedicated hate blog written by some unhinged Australian frau. It was horrible, I mean what do fraus even know about snarky humor anyway.. I thought this twat went too far when she accused Frederick and Mary’s son of being retarded (he’s clearly not) and Frederic of being gay. Interestingly she abandoned the blog not too long afterwards. Mary, or YRMA as some call her, is a popular figure of derision on the royal message boards, I can’t understand why, she’s doing her role as well as can be expected.

Speaking of Crown Princess Mary of Denmark, did we cluck over this interesting tiara in any of the jewelry threads?

But regarding hate blogs, any woman who marries extremely well, or who gets a much-desired celebrity boyfriend is going to get one. Or more than one. All fangirls do this, rip any woman who has the man they want to shreds, and that includes male fangirls. The most ridiculous shredding has been the conspiracy theories made up by the TV "Sherlock" fancrazies, but I'm staying tuned. Meghan seems like a good bet to attract real nutball conspiracy theorists, especially the racist ones.

Scroll down on this Twitter page and you'll see a link to a recent Saturday Night Live spoof with Tina Fey, although I'm not sure who the woman with the dark brown curled hair is supposed to be.

[50] Agree, the Tumblr set mourning the loss of their beloved "Dorkybatch" pretty much take the biscuit in terms of sheer lunacy. I don't get the hate for Crown Princess Mary. She seems a perfectly ordinary nice woman who is doing a very good job, is liked by the Danes, and by her mother-in-law, Queen Margrethe. It's her husband whom I suspect is the pain the arse problem. And their children are very attractive. What I find interesting in the DRF is how much the younger son's wife looks like Mary - she has the same name, Marie, and her birthday is within a day of Mary's., she's just a few years younger. But same colouring, same look, long hair, similar dress style. I've always thought Prince Joachim had a major crush on Mary, and as his first marriage was ending as his older brother wed the Australian, Joachim quickly got himself a French girl who was a close to a replica of Mary as possible. The French second wife of the younger son seems also to have behaved with exemplary discretion, doing her work enjoying her good fortune, and carefully avoiding overshadowing the sister-in-law who will one day be Queen of Denmark. MeAgain should take a look at Mary and Marie and rethink her "Look at MEEEEE!" approach to being royal.

R9 Not everything is racism, thanks.

I knew nothing about the Danish Royal Family, but after reading this blog called "A Bogan in Denmark," (linked) which was OTT bitchy and hilarious, I agree with the Royal Dish ladies, that Mary of Denmark (or rather Tasmania) is a camera-hungry, scheming, fame whore, much like La Markle.

Bogan is Australian slang for white trash. Charlene of Monaco was also white trash. And now the BRF has semi-white trash, except Meghan had excellent schooling and a cosmopolitan background growing up in LA, so she is sophisticated (although she dresses horribly when left to her own devices) But her siblings...

It's telling that since the ascendancy of Meghan, Mary of Denmark seems to be renting out the sidebar of the Daily Mail, hoping to get the focus back on herself.

Who gives a rat's ass? I can't believe she is that interesting to some people. Now that she is married to Harry, she is just another member of the Firm. Big deal.

For the poster up thread who asked for the Tumblr link, the Observer article towards the end of Skippy's Blog is the best written:

Just because she's black. That's all.

I don’t see the fascination with Meghan Markle. She seems to be a rather average woman. She must have some kind of fabulous personality which none of us will ever really know.

R57, MM does not identify as Black but biracial. There have been in the past and still are currently Black women who married European Royalty.

The interest is because there are those of us who question everything about this union and the entire PR campaign. Dozens of Black and biracial men and women of varying ages have posted videos on YouTube pointing out inconsistencies in this fauxmance from Day-1.

Personally I really wanted to like MM in part because I think she's very attractive, wears tasteful makeup and clothing, albeit a few style errors. I sincerely took an interest when I saw how she had to publicly deal with some of her relatives who lack class and good manners. Then I read a blog evtry from a Black man questioning why 2 of her family members said MM should not be around children for the latter's safety and I started to question everything. All I can say is something is way, way off and it has nothing to do with race.

R57, To prove my point that the focus with MM has nothing to do with race, I'd like to ask DL where are the threads about Sarah Ferguson's daughter Engenie who's wedding will be in Sept. Illustrations of her full-skirted wedding gown are already on the internet. Her fiance was a bartender at Soho House. Now he's England's distributor of Casamigos Tequila. Engenie was papped with Amal Clooney recently at the British Embassy during a charity event.

Perhaps DL is being prejudiced as Prince Andrew's daughter is nowhere near as physically attractive as MM nor is as stylishly dressed?

That's a really interesting revelation about what her two family members said, R59. Haven't heard that before.

R63, I've heard it from more than one source. The man pointed out that the interviewer dropped the ball and didn't probe further.

In MM's defense there's documented evidence her mother was involved in 2 different cults and it's the norm to bring children along. So likely MM was exposed to, if not experienced, an extremely adult world as a child.

Married with Children where her father worked was known as a cutting edge, super racy show at the time. I went to one of their small cast parties with a good bud who worked tech on the show.

Megs receives the same treatment as every other public figure attempting to mislead the public with ever-evolving myth. Negative public reaction is simply disinclination to suffer bullshit gladly.

The little bitch knows not to act up. If she does? I’ll kill her and Harry out of spite for bringing her into the family. It would also be a warning shot to scare the shit out of William and Kate..........

R64, Was that what Princess Diana meant when she said her mother-in-law wasn't human?

Jessica Seinfeld posted on Instagram about how great it was that Meghan Markle married up. Old Jess got ripped to shreds for being both sexist and for exposing who she really is meaning Jessica is a gold star social climber. Seinfeld's post made me think it takes one to know one.

The two main Cumberbatch loons (who are also 9/11 truthers and Trump worshippers who believe that Jews are controlling a new world order) have jumped completely on the Meghan hate train. It’s the same small group of mentally ill women who move from fandom to fandom becoming fixated by this or that guy, then creating a fantasy about rescuing him from his evil wife or girlfriend. One of the most infamous nuts keeps repeating some mad story about finding a Comic Con access all areas pass in a bin, sneaking in, and Cumby eye fucking her from the stage. She also keeps using astrology and tarot to prove she’s his perfect woman and real soulmate

[54] Taking the word of anyone who uses the term "bogan" about Mary Donaldson is like asking Stormfront for their opinion of MeAgain. Her father was a mathematics professor at the university level, Mary is university educated with a dual university degree, one half being law. She worked for years as a high level real estate agent, she and Frederik dated for several years before he got permission to marry her, and they didn't marry until she was 32. The Danes and her in-laws seem to like her and approve of the work she's doing.

As for liking the attention and lifestyle, given the notorious laziness of her husband, the Heir, it's a good thing his wife likes the job, isn't it? I don't mind people not liking or not liking this or that public person, but the creatures who have blended Mary with Maleficent are simply lunatic, just like the crazies who think Sophie Hunter is a people trafficker. "Bogan" is a distressingly ugly term of class contempt, rather like "trailer trash", which Mary certainly wasn't. Ordinary middle-class, yes; trailer trash - really? With the university maths prof. dad and the dual university degree and the apartment on Bondi Beach? Come on.

A certain level of "famewhore" is probably par for the course with women marrying in at this level. The irony is, Kate Middleton is about the only one I can think of who really doesn't like the public eye very much (although I don't doubt she likes the wealth and status), and she gets slammed for "laziness". Mary of Denmark seems to have worked out well for the family: hardworking and discreet.

MeAgain, on the other hand, looks like she is going to have a problem with the camera hungry famewhoring. She's just barely gotten in and she's already trumpeting her feminism and activism. After seeing her sashay up the stairs leaving her first event as Duchess, nearly seducing the cameras with her one-foot-in-front-of-the-other catwalk hip action, I wonder if MeAgain has the discretion to keep her hunger for attention under control. If she and Mary are sisters under the skin, MeAgain should probably take some leaves out of Mary's book.

BTW, as a last comment on the Tumblr lunatics fixated on Sophie Hunter Cumberbatch, Crown Princess Mary of Denmark, and now the new Duchess of Sussex - their blogs have something else in common that I find psychologically interesting: a fixation on cute animal photos. Between musings on the astonishing powers of of these women on blackmail, dark magic, and other Machiavellian characteristics, they post photos of goats, kittens, puppies . . . I haven't figured that end of their psychosis out yet.

R66, what's wrong with calling Muggles a gold-star social climber? She's not just a gold-star climber, she seems to be one of the all-time greats - the best I've seen this new century!

And I don't mean that as an insult. I admire skill of that level.

[70] Oh, I think William's mother-in-law can catch MeAgain in a photo finish - with a grandfather who was a coal miner, starting life in a council house (America calls them "the projects"), she ends up pushing not one but two daughters to the top of the UK social and economic pyramid. Truthfully, I think her elder daughter would have been quite happy married to a well-to-do City man, but Carole M. wasn't having any of that with Prince William on the horizon. Like Lady Marchmain in "Brideshead Revisited", as one character in the story said, you can see the toothmarks of Carole M. on the necks of all her children, especially the dutiful Kate, who was incapable of resisting her mother's control. Hence, her vapid twenties when other women, including Miss Markle, were slugging it out in the real world. I'll give Markle that.

I don't think there's anything wrong with having the tenacity to pursue and get what you want, either (and I suppose that must include Kate, the sock puppet of the ferociously socially ambitions Carole M.). The problem in the H&M show is that the truth doesn't work well with the brand the Sussexes now have to cultivate (Serious People Doing Serious Work - While Being Vastly Overpaid For It). And, on a deeper level, I think this particular marriage involved the fulfillment of childhood fantasies for both parties, and sooner or later, that framework encounters reality.

The best thing that can happend to a ginger is marriage someone with natural SPF

R71 is trying so very hard, but still is based on angry-fat-frau fantasies.

Trying to present Mrs. Middleton as a latter-day Lady Marchmain is absurd for numerous reasons, the first being that the MIddletons embody their name, and The Duchess of Cambridge hardly followed any prescribed path in her relationship and marriage. There appears - and one usually can see at least some of the facts behind appearances - to be genuine family feeling with her and the prince's marriage and family life, and the duchess has never - never - shown the slightest indication of internal turmoil, complacency, or less than full commitment. She has the life SHE wanted, and so does he. Sock puppet, indeed. One can see the copied-and-pasted quotes this frau has dribbled onto in her glee.

Harry and his bride are fully untested as adults. She has whizzed around doing the things people with that kind of career do, with some evidence of the extents of her ambition that eventually will be broadcast. We'll see if the sugar coating resists those details. It might. But the prince here is one who needs variety and entertainment and kicks, and if he tilts into the life she supposedly is leaving - look for those American trips to signal it - it could become messier sooner. She's also three years away from her own crisis, and could pull the plug if Charming proves less malleable than required by her and his "job."

Finally, complaining about what the couple costs is ridiculous, because they are walking and talking PR/tourism/goodwill goldmines, and all his money comes from the family, not from the government. It is a bit precious to attempt to suggest that the Duchy of Cornwall, the source of most of the trust money that pays him, beyond the millions he has retained from Diana's legacies and other family gifts received, should be socialized. Poo.

The comments about Meghan Markle were so racist and awful at the Royal Dish even the nasties there made Meghan off topic.

" Like Lady Marchmain in "Brideshead Revisited", as one character in the story said, you can see the toothmarks of Carole M. on the necks of all her children, especially the dutiful Kate, who was incapable of resisting her mother's control."

But R71, no woman could possibly succeed as a modern royal wife unless she's as dutiful as all hell, has no ambitions beyond marrying well, and is willing to be controlled by others!

Muggles does not fit that description, I think she's going to have a hard time with the royal life.

R69, it’s an attempt to appear warm and emotive. It’s a manipulation.

It doesn’t happen very often here, but I see it a lot on other sites. If there is an unpleasant topic or person being discussed, someone will say “Brain bleach!!!” and post a cute puppy photo. Or, “I’m having a bad day, someone send me some kittens” and people will reply with photos of cuddly kittens.

People really DO respond to that schlock and apparently it’s a useful tool to make one appear kind and bond with others.

[73] I think it's you who is trying too hard. I wasn't comparing Carole Middleton to Lady Marchmain in terms of social class or social climbing (obviously Lady Marchmain didn't need to do any climbing - although the family's staunch Catholicism, if you remember, did rather stand in the way of top tier marriages in their stratumm), but in terms of their impact on their children's characters, not least on stunting their growth, particularly Sebastian's. This really should have been obvious - literary allusions aren't meant to be exact parallels. But if the stretch is too much for you, well then . . .

Genuine family feeling existing in the Marchmains, as well (he replied mildly) - that's the problem with families, it's never quite as cut and dried as all that.

The fact remains that Carole Middleton's ambitions for her daughters were purely social. Kate Middleton never struck me as stupid, she got a first-class education at St. Andrews - and then while most other women of her class and education went out to forge careers and "find" themselves, Kate dutifully sat around waiting for the SS William Wales to sale into harbour. It was an absurd posture for a modern 21st century woman with opportunity, access, and education, and if William had been that well to do City man instead of the next-but-one King of Britain, they would have married earlier or Kate would have gone to work. The younger sister bummed around for awhile, too, trying one mostly failed attempt after another to establish some sort of social writer career, all of which failed, until she finally settled for the Matthews millionaire.

For the rest, re Harry particularly, we're pretty much in agreement. I'll let the fat frau comment go. It says more about your strong feelings about these people than mine.

[73] That is, "stratum" and "sail" into harbour.

Bit ironic posting all these novel-length mouth-frothing rants about Kate and Meghan, calling them childish nicknames, then calling other people obsessed. Go have a nap and clean the sand out of your vagina.

[76] I'll take your word for it, it's as good an explanation as any other for the cute baby animal photos alongside accusations of the darkest sort against Sophie Hunter Cumberbatch.

[75] - Yes, so one would think. But apparently that dutiful royal wife narrative is in flux. Or not. Remains to be seen whether the good, dull, dutiful Kate will suffer by comparison to Dynamo Outspoken Megs, or whether Megs will begin to tire people out and realise she has to dial it back, or whether Megs will simply take the money and privilege and social status, and run, see the handwriting on Charles's and HM's chequebook, and disappoint all the SJWs who are waiting for her to Change the World.

[79] Dear me. And here I thought the discussion was actually getting a bit deeper socially and psychologically - and, er, this IS a gossip site, remember? Is there a text length that defines "gossip"? Well, I suppose one person's interest in somewhat less tepid observations is another's "sand".

I'm a historian by trade. Britain - and its monarchy - are at an interesting tipping point, of which these little relationships, whether you see it or not, will play a role. If you prefer to discuss BREXIT, the EU, the Holy Roman Empire, the Enlightenment . . . go to, start a thread.

R9 what about the white British ladies. I'd think they'd be even more 'offended.'

R60 The York girls, one of whom would be Princess Eugenie, have been featured in many Datalounge threads. Not favorably. Those girls have been called everything under the sun, and 99% of it was trash talk.

You new royal watchers have no friggin' idea what insults other members of the BRF have been subjected to, which is why (I'm guessing) you're so fucking obsessed with racism. Meghan actually has it easier because of her race - any criticism of her is immediately deemed racism whereas Waity Katie got nailed.

R68 This is the DL; the word "bogan" was made for this place. And I would advise that you never step foot in Australia, because bogan is one of the least offensive terms you'll hear. Or you might be on of the SJW Australians, who are, if possible, vastly more insufferable than the SJWs we have in the US, see R74 for example.

R74 I read the RD threads on Meghan from the beginning. The demented board owner, to her credit, will shut down any racism fast, so really go pull your sad face somewhere else.

R73 A real analysis of the BRF's worth, in terms of concrete gains seen by their charities and by British tourism, found that they had none. I think that analysis was posted here, but if I run across it again I will post it.

In terms of soft power, I think that the BRF do bring some, because without it the UK would be seen as the shell of its former empire it has become.

[quote] and disappoint all the SJWs who are waiting for her to Change the World.

The SJWs have scant understanding of the institution and juggernaut that is the Monarchy. As has been shown over the past 40 years, even under conditions of extreme public embarrassment and upheaval, the juggernaut remains resolute and rolls on, scattering or crushing all those in its path.

The last several posters explain why I find so complelling the clash between the institution that is the BRF, the PR image versus the reality behind the scenes and including all of the rumors, and the very American MM. Think she grew up with a "princess fantasy" more so than Princess Diana. Meaning extreme conformity to a very foreign set of norms and rules with submission to a regimental pecking order won't be a role MM may be able to or consistently willing to play.

The SJW's should be proud that MM's struggles with the level of passivity required in her new acting part have evidently convinced many that the "princess fantasy" is very far from the reality they want for their own lives.

R85 - not yet. Go onto Celebitchy and what you read will shock you: the Celebitches, who tout themselves as one of the most-educated groups on any web site (according to some survey that Celebitchy crowed about) are actually cringe-worthy Cinderella-fetishists posing as woke, intellectual, above-it-all, SJWs.

Meanwhile, having just returned from a jaunt to the local Target, there at the checkout line was the latest US Magazine screeching in huge letters Meghan's intention to be more than a wife.

I don't know who is going to be more pressured by this shit: Sparkle or her Kate, on whom the oblique comparison as nothing more than a boring appendage to William will not be lost. I also harbour some suspicions that Sparkle herself is leaking this stuff to feed her hunger for magazine covers.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall as the courtiers and HM and William and Kate and Harry's Papa see these covers.

Sparkle's other problem, of course, will be following in Diana's footsteps by completely overshadowing her husband -

To reference another post, don't use just brackets of post number.

For R33, R41, R43, R46, R48, R52, R68, R77, R78, R80, R81...

How to reference another post Per DL Help:

[quote]To reference another post in the same thread, simply type R and the post number. EG.

[quote] You are absolutely correct R10 and you are obviously a lovely person. Thank you for your contribution to the conversation... (well, perhaps in an alternate universe's DataLounge anyway)

R97, I can't see the future woman on the throne, Camilla, happy about this media blitz touting MM strengths either. See a huge train wreck coming. Wouldn't MM access to the paps and the media machine be controlled after her wedding by the Palace? Remember Princess Diana maintained her "Shy Di" image until everything went South in her marriage.

Recall I revealed earlier that MM's future BFF Amal Clooney's mother Baria is a regular columnist for the Daily Fail and has her own PR media relations firm. No, I'm not claiming Baria necessarily had a handout in this current media blitz but it is rather similar to Amal Clooney's roll out so I"m a bit suspicious.

I haven't been following this royal wedding, but are there any crazy Brits who are going nuts that he married an American?

[R89] All Sparkle needs to do to head the trainwreck off is get knocked up ASAP. She'll retire into cooing female turtledovery fast enough.

R77, I am going to disagree that it was ridiculous for a highly educated and intelligent woman to sit around waiting for a man to marry her. One of the overreaching goals of sensible feminism was always to give women options, to give every woman a chance to get what she wants out of life, whether that's a high-powered career or being a wife-and-mother. If what she really wanted out of life was to marry William and have a ton of his babies then she was right to ignore the expectation that she have a career and be independent, she focused on what she wanted instead and she got it. I hope it's made her happy.

And it's not like being a rich housewife is a bad deal, at least for those who like that sort of thing (I'd shoot myself first). This board is full of men who are angry that they can't be rich housewives, after all!

Grifter.

I will marry only a president or a king!

I think the presence of the BRF is so England can remind itself it was once a huge colonial empire.

^Na, we're just stuck with it.

[ R62] What cults?

R91, R97

You don't need to type the brackets. Just type the "R" and follow it with the post number with no space in between.

R50 yes, that’s the ‘Midnight Tiara’ which was created by a Danish jeweler and is on loan to Crown Princess Mary. I happen to like it, it’s unusual and really conveys the feeling of a moonlight forest. It’s burnished silver and gold, with diamonds and moonstones. The women of the DRF tend to wear artsy pieces from Danish craftsmen, I like the 24 karat gold one that HM wore to Frederick’s birthday last week too. But Mary has some classic things too, Frederick bought her an antique ruby and diamond tiara last year that can also be worn as a necklace. Practical!

R97, MM parents married at the SRF (Self-Realization Fellowship) Compound. MM met her 1st boyfriend at a Santa Monica Church with later affiliations with The Secret. Googling the church it's clear the leader is a grifter whom ex-members call extremely controlling of their time and money. The church is not affiliated with any Protestant organizations.

MM's mother was in jail during her childhood and young teen years for embezzlement. Fab she got her life together afterwards.

MM's father is a drug addict and alcoholic, one of the reasons he declared bankruptcy and escaped to Rosarita Beach Mexico like many ex-pats.

R92 - I think my real point about Kate was not animus against her ultimately deciding that marrying Prince William was what she really wanted out of life; my comments were based on my suspicion that the overpowering influence of a notoriously fiercely ambitious mother made it impossible for Kate to make any other decision. She clearly doesn't like public life, and is quite happy being a sheltered matron and mother, and I have no problem with that. Nice work if you can get it. But to spend her twenties in the cocoon of her parents' lap before transferring to the cocoon of the lap of the BRF? It's as if she never had a chance to grow up because you can't grow up in an environment like that.

Kate is the polar opposite of Megs, who went out there and slugged it out climbing her way up with every resource she could grab (my hat is off to her for that) in order to get where Kate is: safe in the lap of wealth, status, security, and privilege. Kate hasn't the vaguest idea of what life was like for Megs - who wants to stop slugging it out and live the life Kate lives. She just got there later and by another route.

If there’s “documented evidence” of cults how come one DLer is the only person who has ever heard of it? Don’t you think the tabloids would be all over that shit, and that it would have come up in her secret service background check? Not even the loony hate blogs who make up shit about secret second marriage have mentioned any cult stuff (though apparently they did make up a story about Doria being bankrupt).

R102, You haven't read that MM met her 1st (White) boyfriend at a Samta Monica Church she attended with Doria, then divorced? Well if you research AGAPE then you'll quickly find comments on an ex-cult forum. Hits all the definition of a cult with a leader that's not affiliated with any mainstream Protestant branch.

Anyone who's a Christian or knows anything about the faith will quickly recognize the difference between a small-town style unaffiliated preacher's ministry and a super controlling, time and $$ demanding, cult. Not surprised paps and MSM have diplomatically avoided the word, "Cult."

MM's parents got married at the SRF in So Cal. Know anything about SRF? I do. Read online. I've provided links already.. Clearly it's a Cult. I went to UCLA. I lived very near to La Brea Bakery and Hancock Park for years. I even studied Cults in Cultural Anthropology classes and can easily recognize them.

R102, I think the “documented evidence” is that Doria and Thomas married at some cult church/facility. It’s like someone getting married at the Scientology Celebrity Centre. Maybe the grounds are pretty, but why would you do that if you weren’t an adherent?

That’s my take on it.

The financial... “troubles” and general new agey hippie kinda lifestyle make me even more convinced she’s one of those people.

R104, The "documented evidence" R102 is seeking doesn't exist about MM uncle who's a Bishop. Google the church and his name and even any self-identifying Christian will question what's presented. Yet again the paps only report the man's a Bishop of a church. Why?

Sometimes I think all the fuss made over the paternal relatives' scandals are to take attention away from the mother's side. Seems they don't want anything known about that side at all.

"MM's mother was in jail during her childhood and young teen years for embezzlement." What is your source for this statement ? R100

MM is already one of the most influential in Great Britain?

MM' has saved a Welsh town by wearing a particular pair of jeans.

Does Kate Middleton get as big a PR roll out when she married Prince William?

R107, Read the above linked Blog. Doria was arrested twice and currently owes back taxes. Just saying there's a huge difference between the PR push and reality. Everything a celeb is totally oversold there's always going to be a big backlash of those who resent the snow job.

Meg's has bunions. Sign of peasantry.

The first time I saw JD tumblr, I though it was a fake blog run by a PR agency to create some buzz around the wedding. She spent about 5% of her blog on Cavill, she is always one of the first to post info about his bearding, but she is the first to calm down the fans, about "it's his decision, bla, bla" when she doesn't stop for Harry, who still need "to be saved".

She is moving to Wordpress and need money to improve it, if you have spare money she opened a gofundme, where she describes herself as "a fan of the Royal family", but doesn't say how much time she spends hating on Meghan.

Agree there's a huge difference between PR and reality R 109. Toujours. There's also a huge difference between drivel/ Twitter site and reality. And that's what you've linked as your source. No proof Doria Ragland was "jailed for embezzlement." Because "MM's Murky Past" posted it to drive people to the site--and I don't even see anything about jail or embezzlement posted there--doesn't make it true. Also, Ms Ragland filed for bankruptcy. It's not a crime in the United States. Thanks R111, that clarifies a lot.

MM went to a Roman Catholic school didn't she? She claims she did. So is it true or is that a fabrication?

Immaculate Heart in Los Angeles R113. Why would that be a fabrication? Interviews with teachers and classmates, and photos are online.

R112, The info that Dora was n prison for the crime of embezzlement was from another source. Obviously she wasn't n MM life during a large part of her childhood. Otherwise why would her father have her on the set of Married With Children every day after school at the age of 10? MM talks about seeing extremely inappropriate behavior in an old Esquire interview.

Yes I realize children of Hollywood have always been exposed to a lot at a very early age. Psychologists will tell you it's often very harmful.

R114, The fabrication about MM education is that there isn't proof she ever graduated from college. Many actors have not completed their studies but have admitted as such usually for a change in direction.

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What's the other source re Doria in jail for embezzlement? R114 I'd love to see it. As it is, this sounds like #pizzagate Because MM was hanging out on the set at her father's work ergo her mother was in jail? That's a leap. Many kids with parents in the biz, esp kids that want to be actors, like being on sets.

R118, MM discussed what she saw on the Married With Children set n an old Esquire Magazine Interview. Can't find the link again. I'm not the one who's making up the pizzagate link. Many children of Hollywood have been exposed to everything imaginable as young kids. Going from a rigid Catholic School to what one sees on Hollywood sets isn't IMHO a solid foundation for a young girls' psyche.

Sure those in the business bring their kids to sets. MM's mother apparently temporarily left her life at the age of 6. However the Married with Children TV show's scripts were IMHO totally inappropriate for a 10-year-old to hear. It was the most widely protested show of its time due to the content for a prime time TV show.

Sorry, what was the connection to the Self-Realization Fellowship in Malibu again? Someone got married there?

Because I wouldn't take that as proof of cult membership, they let anyone wander in there and probably rent venues for weddings. I actually dropped by their lake park when I was waiting for the Getty Villa to open last year, and I had hoped to find something snark-worthy, but it's actually a lovely and peaceful spot, the kind of place that the LA Basin so desperately lacks.

R120, You do realize that it's now about 40 years later and the SRF is not as large nor as powerful as it was once? Also did you see all of the wedding pictures of her parents? That's your answer. Cults don't function that way.

Soap Opera gets deeper. This poster claims there's a very valid reason none of MM maternal relatives were at the wedding. There must be some truth among the rumors.

No link yet from R119 R115 R109 R100 on Doria in jail or embezzling or leaving her daughter at 6. Not credible.

R122 - I say, that's a new one on me. I'm assuming it's bollocks, but let's say it isn't, aren't there some genetic implications for Sparkle's offspring? Genetics aren't my speciality - maybe someone else knows?

I find it difficult to believe the BRF wouldn't have uncovered this with five minutes worth of research that we all assume they did on Sparkle when it became clear Harry was fixated on her.

Of course, it's always possible that the BRF wasn't nearly as thorough as we reflexively think they were, because, let us face it, everyone else who has married in, however flaky or common, has been more or less a known quantity. This is the first time someone who really should have been researched up down and sideways has married in so close to the top. Perhaps they didn't do so much due diligence as they should have.

R124, Note that QE II was smiling throughout Prince William's wedding to Kate but had a sour expression during Prince Harry's. Many are speculating re what's really going on behind the facade. Note the number of breeches of protocol MM has made. Will a quickly ordered 6 months of Royal schooling correct MM's faux pas permanently? Or will a pregnancy curtail her public appearances. It's what makes this whole scenario such a huge Soap Opera.

Any time you see someone who isn't a white straight male rise too high, you start to see these insane theories creeping across the internet. There are people who just can't STAND to see the wrong sort be too successful, they become so eager to see the uppity taken down that they'll believe any delusion or lie that could serve to put the uppity one back in their place. And they'll be absolutely certain that the delusion or lie they came up with is true, because their brain just can't accept the idea that someone they see as an inferior is now more successful than themselves.

So of course people are saying that Muggles was a prostitute and I won't be surprised if someone says she's committed a murder in the past, but I have to say the product of incest lie is a new one.

R126, Please tell me why LSA and many, many Black men and Black women on the internet in their YouTube videos are questioning the narrative of MM as a Princess Diana replacement, to push the BRF towards Modernization and Social Justice? The public no longer tolerates being oversold when there are so many huge holes in the narrative.

I assure you many straight White men have also gotten a backlash recently for the exact same reasons. Look at all of the highly praised directors and producers and the MeToo movement. How about the almost all straight White males of both political parties who are resigning or not running for re-election. Or all of the straight White males finally caught in the investigations in DC. The public is tired of the PR snow job.

For a person, man or woman, to marry into the upper levels of the British Royal Family and then have her mother as her only invited guest from her family is strange, odd, questionable, weird, etc.

Stepping into the limelight that surrounds the BRF comes with a very, very bright spotlight.

Got any family secrets? Not for long.

Got some parts of your past you'd rather forget - Not gonna happen.

Shady relatives? - They will find the light blinding.

Little white lies that might have gone unnoticed in your past life - exposure is certain.

Holes in your resume? - They're going to be filled.

A stray ex husband that you'd like to not mention? Front page news.

And if you began your entry into this milieu by a startling attempt to curtail and control the press - Wait for your laugh.

To claim that these things would only happen in this case is disingenuous.

Especially if you are silly enough to poke the tiger. They snarl and attack.

The worst news...Bethenny Frankel(Empress Cuntbag) dated MM's ex-husband! At least,MM was hot and Frankel looks like a white ethnic drag queen.

R128, Thank you for your very eloquent words of wisdom.

R128 They are reptiles not tigers. Killer lizards if you will. Remember what happened to Di.....

R131, Princess Diana always said her in-laws were not human but repitillian. Always thought that she meant they were cold-blooded. I'm sure she expected QE II to intervene and to make Prince Charles be a better husband and father. Would that be what you're referring to in your post?

Oh, I'm not saying that Markle is anything but a climber who's doing her best to keep her family and background out of the media glare, but I'm also saying that any time a person of color or a woman rises too high, they attract obsessive haters and lunatic conspiracy theories. Because some people can't accept a woman of color rising too high, they HAVE to find a reason to believe she needs taking down.

And that includes some people on this thread.

Don't want my posts to be misinterpreted but I cannot exaggerate my disappointment in MM. Hopefully she'll change and become more focused on charity projects within the rigidity of the BRF rather than the luxurious trappings of her new acting role.

I agree R133.

Disappointment, R134?

How the hell could anyone have high enough expectations from that gal to be disappointed in her?

R136, Disappointed in how she was 1st presented as I didn't research the truth.