Actors who should have played Stanley Kowalski
Inspired by the thread for Streetcar Named Desire--the 1995 version with DL fave Jessica Lange. I have no strong feelings about her one way or another, but that production would make my hate watch list due to the presence of Alec Baldwin who I couldn't stand even before he swelled up like a tick.
I don't remember if Tommy Lee Jones ever did Stanley and never saw the version with Treat Williams, who I'm betting would have been excellent just based on his performance in Smooth Talk. Also agree with the poster who suggested Ed Harris (who would probably be more likely to have been cast as Mitch, even when he was young). I'd like to have seen Lange's longtime partner Sam Shepard in the role, but my top pick would have been Shephard's old friend Scott Glenn.
By the time he had his breakthrough role in Urban Cowboy, he was too old for the part (people forget Brando was in his mid twenties when he created the role)--but in the clip from UC he had the perfect balance of real danger and sex on a stick. What could have been....
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 114 | June 25, 2018 2:08 AM
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Someone mentioned Ed Harris in the Streetcar 1995 thread. Good choice.
Russell Crowe (Maybe a bit obvious)
Christian Bale (it’s the bubbling anger)
Miles Teller (pigheaded and insecure)
Iain Glenn (great stage actor, very masculine)
by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 25, 2018 9:38 AM
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Lucille Ball was going to do the '95 remake, but Gary Morton told her having to put up with Jessica Lange wasn't worth it so she turned it down.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 25, 2018 9:48 AM
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Bette--Stanley (she already was in "In This Our Life")
Joan--Blanche (for the second time)
by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 25, 2018 10:04 AM
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Steve Cochran. He was the Stanley character in "Storm Warning," sort of a political SND.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 25, 2018 10:13 AM
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Had he lived, John Garfield
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 11 | May 25, 2018 10:48 AM
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Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland would have made a great Stanley and Blanche. Margaret O'Brien as Stella. If this had been made in 1960.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | May 25, 2018 10:53 AM
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Lawrence Fishburn, with Branagh directing (remembrances of Othello past)
by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 25, 2018 11:02 AM
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Billy Barton and Charlene Tilton.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 25, 2018 11:41 AM
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Fuck yeah! Charlene Tilton. - good call R18
by Anonymous | reply 19 | May 25, 2018 11:44 AM
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Charlene Tilton did play Honey in opposite Kate O'Mara in a English production of WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 25, 2018 11:46 AM
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Charlene was once seriously considered for Sophie's Choice. Her manager/boyfriend got her a meeting. It didn't end well.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 25, 2018 11:46 AM
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Sorry - but I think I would like to hear more about Charlene Tilton.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 25, 2018 12:08 PM
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[quote]James McAvoy
Ugh, no.
I can’t recall him glowering at Romola Garai in ATONEMENT without cringing.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 25, 2018 12:11 PM
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Wallace Beery as Stanley and Marie Dressler as Blanche.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 25, 2018 12:13 PM
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[quote]Tom Hiddleston
Haha, he’s another one. Completely ruined the almost excellent DEEP BLUE SEA directed by Terence Davies with his Kowalski-lite.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 25, 2018 12:15 PM
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James McAvoy is best actor of his generation
by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 25, 2018 12:16 PM
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I love James McAvoy, but he is 2 feet tall and not physically intimidating. Admittedly I haven't seen Split, but he was supposed to be scary AF in Filth and he just . . . wasn't.
My ideal Stanley is young James Gandolfini, who could have embodied the charm, sex, and brutishness of the character to perfection. Apparently, he was an understudy for Mitch in the 1992 Broadway Streetcar. What a missed opportunity that was.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | May 25, 2018 12:33 PM
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McAvoy is 5' 7" (1.7 m).
He wasn't supposed to be scary in Filth his character was disgusting not scary. He was very scary in Split.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 25, 2018 12:38 PM
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I've honestly always wanted to see a production with a Stanley who wasn't all that physically intimidating, just to see if it could be done, really. I think McAvoy could do it.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 25, 2018 12:38 PM
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I know Christopher Walken did a production in Princeton in the 1970s with Glenn Close as Stella. I think when he was in good shape and not so much a caricature of himself he could be a definitive Stanley.
R39, that was done with John C. Reilly as Stanley and was a disaster.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 25, 2018 12:40 PM
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Brando was 5ft 8 ¾ (174.6 cm)
by Anonymous | reply 41 | May 25, 2018 12:41 PM
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Brando wasn't any taller than five eight and a half. He was barely taller than five seven Frank Sinatra in Guys and Dolls.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 25, 2018 12:42 PM
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I wouldn't mind James McAvoy as Stanley.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 25, 2018 12:50 PM
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Does Harvey Whalestein have any sons?
by Anonymous | reply 44 | May 25, 2018 12:51 PM
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R10 nailed it. Steve Cochran. He had the sex, the brawn, the hairy chest for those two women to get lost in, and lots of menace. Lots of it.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 45 | May 25, 2018 12:52 PM
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Charlene Tilton is 4’11” - but with that rack - her stage presence is intimidating. Just ask Sue Ellen when she wakes up in her car at the airport- a tad hungover.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | May 25, 2018 12:53 PM
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Lou Ferrigno.
I would have paid for the production if I had the money, just to hear him yell,
STEEWWWAAAA!
by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 25, 2018 1:07 PM
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How great it would have been if Lucy and Ethel had staged a scene from STREETCAR for one of their Ladies Club events. Lucy as Blanche. Ethel as Stella. Ricky as Stanley. Fred as Mitch. Mrs. McGillicuddy could make a cameo with "Flores para los muertos." Little Ricky could play the Paperboy.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | May 25, 2018 1:19 PM
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Lemme do it I can do it I was born to do it look at me look at these abs I have the vibe man please I'll do anything if you let me do it!!!!!!!1
by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 25, 2018 1:22 PM
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I was about to name Tom Berenger and then I discovered that he had played the role of Kowalski in the stage.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 50 | May 25, 2018 1:49 PM
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Stanley is the standard by which we measure how far the sisters have fallen. He really needs to be trash. Hot trash, but 100% trash.
Born into Southern aristocracy and stubbornly groomed for life as gracious ladies on a plantation, even as that way of life was fading, Stella and Blanche are both ill-prepared for what comes their way. The Depression and World War II brought the loss of everything for which they had been prepared.
Stella runs from Belle Rive before it collapses. Blanche stays until the bitter end. Despite very different choices, they both get ground up by the modern world. They start in the same place and they end in the same place; getting fucked by the same Polak in the same sweltering slum in New Orleans. Not the grand and refined life they had been promised as girls.
To see how far they have fallen from grace and refinement, you have to have a Stanley who has nothing to offer but the animal urges of a hot fuck and rage to go with it. The sisters weren't raised to go near a man like Stanley, and now both sisters find themselves under him as he crushes them, physically and spiritually. That's why it is so difficult to cast Stanley. Actors rely on being appealing, or they have no career. Stanley is not appealing. He is the embodiment of the sisters' degradation.
Brando had the sex and the stature to stand up to the sisters and crush them and their history, just as progress and modernity always crushes the old order. Blanches are dime a dozen. A producer can always find a middle aged actress to flit and flirt her way through it. But the whole thing usually comes to naught without a strong, cold, brutal, yet sexually compelling, Stanley to force himself and his ways on the two women.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | May 25, 2018 1:54 PM
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Didn't he turn down the Natasha Streetcar, r16?
by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 25, 2018 2:00 PM
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I saw the production with John C Reilly and he was completely wrong. Natasha Richardson was devastating as Blanche. The Chris Meloni suggestion is spot on physically. Ruffalo too.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 25, 2018 2:01 PM
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This drawing of Stanley and Blanche (?) reminds me of Molly Ringwald and Rider Strong.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 54 | May 25, 2018 2:06 PM
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I saw the production with Ben Foster as Stanley and Gillian Anderson as Blanche. Foster is on the shorter side and he came off as more of an obnoxious punk. I only know Brando from the film but he had a more intimidating quality.
The best recent Stanley I've seen was Joel Edgerton in the production with Cate Blanchett.
Treat Williams in the TV movie with Ann-Margret was pretty good (she was wonderful).
by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 25, 2018 2:32 PM
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Jim Carrey would've made an amusing Stanley
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 56 | May 25, 2018 2:36 PM
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Michael Shannon - I love this guy and he needs a real breakthrough role. Has that sense of menace.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 25, 2018 2:41 PM
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Clint Walker who recently passed away.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 25, 2018 2:46 PM
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R57, that's a good call. Michael Shannon would be perfect.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | May 25, 2018 5:49 PM
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Nick Nolte, obviously years ago, "Rich Man Poor Man" days or not long after.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | May 25, 2018 5:52 PM
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P. Allen Smith!
Finally, a real Southern accent.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | May 25, 2018 6:12 PM
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My favorites listed so far, Michael Shannon, Idris Elba, and Christopher Meloni all have the potential for physical power, raw sexuality, and magnetic menace for Stanley. He needs to sweat what we now call toxic masculinity and at the same time make the negatives a near even trade with the promise of a very hot and rough fuck.
r51 lays out why this casting is so crucial and what the character means for Stella and Blanche, though I would argue that Blanche is not quite as easy casting as suggested. Suffering through a bad Blanche in two local productions left me trying to mentally superimpose Ann-Margret or Jessica Lange over the actresses in question.
But Stanley... He’s like a wet dream and a living nightmare all rolled up into one slick mass of bellowing muscle. A good Stanley is hard to find.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | May 25, 2018 6:52 PM
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[quote]Suffering through a bad Blanche in two local productions left me trying to mentally superimpose Ann-Margret or Jessica Lange over the actresses in question.
Stockholm syndrome?
by Anonymous | reply 65 | May 25, 2018 6:58 PM
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You are correct that I overstated the case about Blanche, R64. Thank you for pointing it out. I was trying to highlight the extraordinary qualities needed to play Stanley. A well skilled actress who falls short of being revelatory while playing Blanche can still deliver the ideas Blanche represents. She can affect Blanche, telegraphing and indicating all the way, and we will know what she is supposed to be about. She is helped by a well defined narrative arc. We see what she is doing and can fill in the details, if need be.
Stanley reacts. At each point in Blanche's decline, he reacts in some very particular ways. He does not have that well defined narrative arc that Blanche has. He is the modern America that takes everything for granted and shits all over it. He is us. He is the one who holds up the mirror to the audience to show them what a crass and evil lot we have collectively become. (It is worth noting that Alec Baldwin has played both Stanley and Trump. It is as if he and Tennessee tried to warn us.) Creating all that imaginatively and having it grounded in the circumstances of the play and its setting and justified emotionally is a tall order, but without it, there's really no play. It's not about Blanche's frailties. It's about the crass and unforgiving predatory nature of modern America.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | May 26, 2018 12:58 PM
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R51 / R66 - You have insights into Stanley, both in terms of what he means to the sisters and what he means to us. I never would have thought of Tennessee Williams prepping us for DJT, but the signs are all there.
You need to write a Streetcar book!
R64
by Anonymous | reply 68 | May 26, 2018 1:33 PM
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[quote]David Tennant
And Kelly Macdonald as Stella. Then we wouldn't be able to understand either of them.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | May 26, 2018 1:40 PM
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Ruth Wilson’s Stella was the best I have ever seen.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | May 26, 2018 2:22 PM
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R68, I never thought of Pee Brain in connection with Streetcar, either. Not until I was trying to describe how Stanley operates and the harm he causes everyone. That caused Trump to come to mind. Baldwin followed in a flash.
But as I think about it, the first thing Stanley does when he discovers Blanche has arrived and that there has been some trouble is demand to see the papers, specifically demanding the deeds. He didn't just that day find out about the Napoleonic Code.
He would have found out Stella's background (Belle Rive!) while getting to know her and while dating her. She was not raised to be a business woman. That is men's work. So she would not know to keep her yap shut about the family plantation. It seems to make sense that he might have married Stella because of the Napoleonic Code and the chance to snatch Belle Rive, or at least some money from it.
Having been thwarted in getting any of that, he at least was going to get some revenge. And some pussy. Which brings us back to You Know Who.
Aargh.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | May 26, 2018 6:06 PM
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I'd love to see Morgan Spector play it today. He would be perfect.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 73 | May 26, 2018 6:13 PM
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74 replies and nobody has mentioned Sylvester Stallone. Back to the old ideal pairing of Sly and Vanessa Redgrave. Had been proposed.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | May 26, 2018 7:16 PM
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She is six feet tall and he is about 5'8".
The pairing is not so ideal.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | May 27, 2018 3:04 AM
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R73 He's so ugly why Rebecca Hall married him?
by Anonymous | reply 79 | May 27, 2018 3:37 AM
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Leslie Jordan. He's got the southern accent ready to go.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | May 27, 2018 3:39 AM
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Other than Bale or Fassbender, I cannot imagine ANY current day “stars” playing Stanley. They are either too femme, too short or shitty actors. DiCaprio with his 12 year old girl arms and Ryan Reynolds with his super high voice would be better as Stella.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | June 4, 2018 2:22 PM
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Stanley Tucci as Stanley & Sandy Duncan as Blanche.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | June 19, 2018 4:46 PM
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R38 He wasn't very scary in Split. He was comical
by Anonymous | reply 90 | June 19, 2018 5:44 PM
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Another vote for Liev Shreiber, maybe 10 or 15 years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | June 19, 2018 6:28 PM
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I once worked with Kim Hunter. She told some stories, but bitch wouldn't give up anything juicy.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | June 19, 2018 6:56 PM
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Edward Norton, around the time of American History X
by Anonymous | reply 93 | June 19, 2018 7:07 PM
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Woody Harrelson a few years back.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | June 19, 2018 7:13 PM
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Tom Hardy absolutely. Thread closed.
As for Stella Carrie Mulligan as Tom Hardy's Stella.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | June 19, 2018 7:31 PM
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Stellan Skarsgård in his younger days.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | June 19, 2018 7:42 PM
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Gene Hackman, way back when.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | June 19, 2018 7:59 PM
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A couple of years before his death, Heath Ledger was a favorite IMDb-board choice for Stanley, opposite Julianne Moore (Blanche).
by Anonymous | reply 101 | June 19, 2018 9:23 PM
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Does anyone know what movie R103 is from? I'm guessing The Killing or The Asphalt Jungle.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | June 20, 2018 3:57 PM
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William Shatner would've been interesting as Stanley.
Alan Sues would've been veddy interesting...
by Anonymous | reply 106 | June 20, 2018 4:33 PM
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Joe Manganiello got excellent reviews five years ago when he did the part at Yale Rep.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 107 | June 20, 2018 5:33 PM
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Joe did a Patti Lupone in New Haven and stopped his performance to tell off an audience member using his phone to take pictures.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 108 | June 20, 2018 5:37 PM
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One more of Joe, the most beautiful man on earth. And he can act, too!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 109 | June 20, 2018 5:39 PM
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Robert Ryan.
Factoid: Hiddleston was discovered by a talent agent playing Kowalski in a production by the Cambridge drama department. There are some rare photos of him extant with his leading lady in the production. The talent agent went backstage afterward and told him to get an agent and audition for RADA. He did both, and got in to RADA.
Possibly Colin Farrell? btw, where has Farrell gotten these days?
by Anonymous | reply 110 | June 23, 2018 11:54 PM
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R96 - Hardy a great candidate. In fact, if you'd seen his film "The Drop" (it was Gandolfini's last) Hardy was channeling Brando in "On the Waterfront', in the nicest way, as an homage.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | June 23, 2018 11:57 PM
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Well, Brando back then, is irreplaceable.
But yeah, Tom Hardy, he has the menace. Or Colin Farrell, he has the animal magnetism, raw sensuality.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 112 | June 24, 2018 10:45 PM
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Fassbender esentially already has played the part--in that sex addict movie.
Christian Bale is too pretty..
Blanche has to be fragile, but with pretense and more steel than she appears to have.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | June 24, 2018 10:56 PM
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R113 - "Shame". It's a better movie than credited, but Fassbender's full frontal nudity and the graphic sex obscured its value and became the focal point.
I didn't identity Kowalski as a sex addict so don't get your comparison, though.
Bale is past it, looks wise. Didn't Treat Williams take a turn at it on Broadway? Didn't see it but I heard he was good.
It's a thankless role given the hold Brando's performance has on it. The actor would have to have Brando's magnetism, serious acting chops, and yet be able to wrench the role away from Brando and make it his own.
I don't know that it can be done for another 100 years.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | June 25, 2018 2:08 AM
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