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Nicole Kidman Had Real Sex with her Costar Gary Goba on Eyes Wide Shut

Gary Goba interview from Nicole Kidman biography by James L Dickerson (2003) and Tom Cruise: An Unauthorized Biography by Andrew Morton (2008) :

"Kubrick filmed the sex scenes involving Nicole and her navy lover.....The man chosen to play the lover of Alice's dreams was Gary Goba, a twenty-nine-year-old Canadian model who had never acted before. When he auditioned, he thought it was for the job of an extra who would be wearing a naval officer's uniform. Instead, in December 1997, he found himself naked on the closed set in front of an equally naked Nicole Kidman.

Over the next few days, with barely an introduction, the two strangers performed fifty or so sexual positions, with Kubrick filming from the shadows all the while. The director wanted his naked star to explore every sex act, apart from oral sex, which he dismissed as a cinematic cliche.

"We just tried to do stuff that we had never ever seen before in movies," recalled Goba. "Sometimes she would come up with an idea or I would or Stanley would." In the scene that actually made it into the movie, Nicole is lying on her back wearing a summer dress while Goba caresses her and lifts her dress over her breasts to reveal her body. "Leave [the dress] up there and have those hands continue on down, and, like, grab her tits, kiss them if you want, hands all the way down her body and end up between her legs," said the director.

Goba, trying to be sensitive to Nicole, rested his hand on her thigh, knowing that it could make little difference to Stanley, as her other leg was shielding what his hand might actually be doing from the camera anyway. "Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Gary, you've got to get right in there!" Kubrick instructed.

"I couldn't believe it," says Goba. "I just couldn't believe it. I think he was having fun with it. It was a joke for him, but I think he went a little far for her because as the days went on, she would be like, 'Okay, cut!' Like this is getting too intimate, but he just let it go. It was like he was trying to have things done to piss her off—or the opposite. It was weird. He was laughing. He thought it was so funny."

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by Anonymousreply 53May 28, 2018 10:23 PM

Goba continues "It was as if he were enjoying the relentless humiliation of another man's wife—and the unspoken emasculation of her husband—by playing out explicit scenes that would inevitably end up on the cutting room floor."

In one scenario, Nicole had a wig glued over her private parts and Kubrick ordered Goba to perform oral sex on her. "He really wanted me to go for it," recalls Goba. "I did and he was like, 'You've got to really push in there and really move your head around,' and I'd see him laughing and she would be like, 'Oh God, Stanley!' So I was really grinding away in there, with my mouth on her patch—and there was hair in my mouth, too, and I'd be pulling one out."

Nicole's biographer James L. Dickerson caustically observed, 'The most damning evidence against Kubrick lies in the relentless manner in which he pursued the sex scenes between Nicole and Gary Goba. He asked Nicole to do things that he knew damned well would never make it onto film. It was abusive behavior cloaked in a mantle of professional necessity."

While Nicole is not so censorious, she concedes that she only allowed herself to be used in this way for Kubrick. "He didn't exploit me. I certainly wouldn't have done it for any other director and, yes, it was a little difficult to go home to my husband afterward." It seems that when she did go home, she did not say much about the day job— as per Kubrick's standing instructions.

by Anonymousreply 1May 22, 2018 11:43 PM

As opposed to fake sex?

by Anonymousreply 2May 22, 2018 11:57 PM

You can't believe ANYTHING coming from Nicole Kidman or her camp.

by Anonymousreply 3May 23, 2018 12:01 AM

Where in that ramble is there evidence of real sex? Aggressive and degrading simulated sex—yes, but nowhere is it clear that real sex took place.

by Anonymousreply 4May 23, 2018 12:01 AM

How can the quote be from two different books?

by Anonymousreply 5May 23, 2018 12:26 AM

Gary Goba interview from Nicole Kidman biography by James L Dickerson (2003) :

"When he arrived at the audition, he found a line of men already there, all of them models. “I waited my turn and walked through the door into a small conference room that would have seated maybe thirty people, but there was no table or chair, just an empty room,” Goba says. “I didn’t see anybody, but I spotted a small piece of tape on the floor and I knew to walk to the tape and stop. As I did that, I noticed a guy in the corner coming out from behind a camera and walking toward me.”

The man was Leon Vitali, Stanley Kubrick’s special assistant. Introducing himself to Goba but not telling him his employer’s name, he shook Goba’s hand and asked him what he was doing in London. When Goba told him that he was living with his girlfriend while working as a model, Vitali observed that he didn’t sound British. That’s when Goba explained that he had grown up in Canada. As they talked, Vitali asked him to please remove his shirt, which Goba did without thinking anything about it because he was always asked to take off his shirt whenever he auditioned for modeling jobs

by Anonymousreply 6May 27, 2018 11:47 PM

“We chatted about ten minutes and he slowly, slowly backed up to the camera,’’ Goba says. “I thought that after that little chat he was going to turn that thing on and we’d do the formal audition, whatever that was going to be. Instead, he turned the camera off and said, ‘That’s it.’ So that’s when I realized that the audition was just more getting a feeling for the guy, rather than finding out his talents as an actor.”

During the audition, Goba asked about the part for which he was auditioning and he was told that it was as a United States naval officer. He figured he would be an extra on a ship and would probably salute or something as Nicole Kidman walked past. His expectations were not high because he had never been in a movie. Why would Warner Bros, want him to be anything other than an extra?

Vitali told him that shooting for the part would begin in a couple of weeks and he would get hack in touch with him soon to let him know if he had the job. After the audition, Goba waited around London for several weeks. Finally, with no word from Vitali, he figured that the part probably had gone to someone else, so he moved to Switzerland, where his mother and her family lived (Goba says with pride that he is half Swiss). It was then that the telephone calls began. Every week, he says, Vitali, or someone from his office, called him and told him that he would hear something soon.

by Anonymousreply 7May 27, 2018 11:48 PM

That went on for several months. Finally, in December 1997, Vitali called and told Goba that they were ready, at last, to shoot his scenes. He told Goba that they had already made arrangements for his flight back to London and his driver would be waiting for him when he arrived. Driver? Goba was impressed.

As he was hanging up the phone, Goba thought he heard Vitali say something. He yanked the telephone back to his ear and said, “Yeah, did you want me?” “Yes,” answered Vitali. “I wanted to run this by you and ask you if you would be okay doing a sex scene with Nicole Kidman.”

Goba laughed and said, “Right! Would you have a problem with it?” “No,” answered Vitali.

“Neither would I—not a problem.”

“Well, it’s not going to happen, so don’t worry about it,” Vitali continued. I just wanted to run it past you in case we did decide it would look great— and if you didn’t want to he in it, that would be a problem.”

No, no, no,” Goba said, stunned that they were even having that conversation. “That will be fine.”

by Anonymousreply 8May 27, 2018 11:51 PM

The next day, Goha flew back to London, Still in the dark about the title of the film, the director, or his role, Goba arrived earlier than anyone else. “All of a sudden, a car pulled up and Nicole and Tom came out, he says. Tom was the first one out and he just kinda’ ran in and they introduced him to me and he quickly said ‘hello’ and ran right by me into the make-up room and I never saw him again after that.”

Then Nicole made her entrance. 'She was introduced to me and I guess she knew she was going to be meeting me. She stood there and chatted with me there on the stairs, heading up to make-up, for maybe two minutes or so. She was relaxed and said, ‘Hi, pleasure to meet you and I’m looking forward to working with you.’

“Then she went up to do make-up. I think she and Tom had a scene together that morning—and then we started in the afternoon. I pretty much sat around all morning until they were done and I didn’t see Tom again. He disappeared and went off to negotiate Mission Impossible II or something.”

by Anonymousreply 9May 27, 2018 11:53 PM

Goba waited in his dressing room for someone to call him. By then, he knew that Stanley Kubrick was the film’s director and he figured that he and his assistants were busy setting up the scene, whatever it was going to be. He was never given a script and still had no idea what he was going to be doing in the movie, except that it involved Nicole and maybe a sex scene.

Goba was not always alone in the dressing room, for assistants came in and out on a regular basis, mostly to check on the status of his uniform, which had not yet arrived.

When it finally arrived, it hung on his dressing room door only a few minutes before he got the call to report to the set.

“Okay, I’ll just jump into this suit,” he replied.

“Oh, no, just throw on the bathrobe,” the assistant said.

“I was like, well I guess I’m just going to meet [Kubrick]—right?” he re-calls. “So I walked out of my room and Nicole walked out of her room and the assistant director was there to take us down the stairs into the big studio.”

Goba and Nicole walked down the stairs and into a drab hallway, then into a gigantic room that housed what they called the Cape Cod suite. It was a beautifully furnished hotel room and the way the lights shone on it made it look even more lavish.

by Anonymousreply 10May 27, 2018 11:57 PM

“I saw Stanley [Kubrick] there and chatted with him—super nice guy, completely normal. It was like meeting someone’s parents or something— then he said, ‘Let’s get right to it!’ I noticed it was just a bedroom and I thought, ‘Well, that’s interesting.’ Then he mentioned what we would be doing and that’s when I realized we were going to have a bloody sex scene.”

Kubrick seemed almost clinical as he explained to Goba what he wanted from him. “He’s like, okay, what we’re going to do here is Nicole will be lying on the bed on her back and you’re going to be coming in on top of her and, you know, you’re going to be caressing her arms and her dress and maybe give her a kiss and let’s get right to it.”

Goba was in shock, but he tried not to show it. He kept thinking, 1 don’t believe this, I don’t believe this ! When they entered the room, it was filled with eight or ten people, all working on the lighting or making last-minute changes to the set, but then Nicole asked for a closed set and everyone was asked to leave.

Then it was just the three of them—Goba, Nicole, and Kubrick, who sat in a chair that had been rigged up to a trolley. He planned to operate the camera himself, not a difficult task since he needed only three levers—one to move the chair up and down the trolley, another to pan the camera from side to side, and the third to zoom the lens in and out so that he would get what he needed, anything from tight shots of their faces and hands, to medium distance shots of their entire bodies.

by Anonymousreply 11May 27, 2018 11:59 PM

Once everyone but Kubrick was out of the room, Goba and Nicole faced each other and removed their robes, so that within seconds both of them were totally naked. Goba was amazed at how beautiful she was and how easily she showed him her body. But he still couldn’t believe it—what strange twist of fate was responsible for him standing before Nicole Kidman buck naked?

Kubrick set the pace with the words, “Just go at it!”

Suddenly, it was as though they were two prized animals at a gladiatorial event, standing at face-off, ready to engage one another in something akin to sexual combat, as Kubrick egged them on from the shadows beyond the lights.

She was the very image of physical perfection, with flawless skin so white it appeared blue tinged, and breasts that were small but firm, and a patch of reddish pubic hair that was well-groomed but not shaved—and he was ready to do his best

For six days, Goba and Nicole engaged in sexual activity, everything , with Kubrick shouting instructions and encouragement from his trolley, capturing on film every intimate moment they shared. Goba estimates that they probably acted out fifty different sexual positions

by Anonymousreply 12May 28, 2018 12:02 AM

The three of us got together and tried to come up with different interesting positions,” he says. “They were really trying to do things that had never been done in movies before. They were going to do the going-down-on-me thing, but that wasn’t even an option. We didn’t even film a blow job scenario because it had been and done well. We did a bathtub scene, where I’m sitting on the side of the tub with my feet in it (there was no water) and she was straddling around me, kind of facing me. We just tried to do stuff that we had never ever seen before in movies. Sometimes she would come up with an idea or I would or Stanley would.”

In one scene never made it into the film. In that one, Kubrick had Nicole stand nude against a wall, one foot propped up onto a tabletop and her leg flared open so that everything was exposed. Then, he instructed Goba to go down on her.

“They wig-glued on this patch over her private parts and I had to actually put my face right on it and, Stanley, I think he was having fun with it in a joking way because he really wanted me to go for it,” Goba says. “I did—and he was like, ‘You’ve got to really push in there and really move your head around,’ and I’d see him laughing and she would be like, ‘Oh, God, Stanley!’ So I was really grinding away in there, with my mouth on her patch—and there was hair in my mouth, too, and I’d be pulling one out.”

by Anonymousreply 13May 28, 2018 12:05 AM

The second most intimate scene actually made it into the movie, but viewers were treated to a sleight-of-hand that suggested much less on-screen than was actually being delivered during filming. Goba remembers it this way: “She’s lying on the bed on her back in a summer dress, with her legs up in the air a little hit, and he’s shooting the profile from the side—and I’m coming from the other side, leaning over her.

“The way he directed it was to tell me to obviously kiss her, run [my] hands down her body, like down the dress, and grab the bottom of the dress and pull it up all the way over her breasts—and he’s like, ‘leave it up there and have those hands continue on down and, like, grab her tits, kiss them if you want, hands all the way down her body and end up between her legs.”

Goba was shocked at the specificity Kubrick used to direct his movements. The director spoke to him as if Nicole were not even in the room. If Nicole heard directions that she did not like, she chastised Kubrick for suggesting them, but she never said no to anything that he suggested, no matter how explicit.

After hearing the above detailed instructions, Goba thought Oh, God — and she’s not wearing anything, but, like Nicole, he did what he was told by the famous director.

“Let’s get right to it—no trial or anything,” Kubrick barked.

by Anonymousreply 14May 28, 2018 12:06 AM

“My hand ended up between her legs, but I thought I could, out of respect, rest it on the inside of her thigh,” Goba says. “He was filming from the side. I figured her other leg would block what my hand was really doing, which was just touching her inner thigh.”

Suddenly, Kubrick leaned from behind the camera and shouted, “Whoa! Whoa! Gary, you’ve got to get right in there!”

Goba repeated the entire routine, starting at her breasts, moving his hands down her body, finally stopping between her legs. “So, take two, my hand ended up right on her and he wouldn’t stop filming. He just kept going. The music is playing and we have to continue like we’re into it and my hand is on her basically moving around.

“I couldn’t believe it! I just couldn’t believe it! I think he was having fun with it. It was a joke for him, but I think it went a little far for her because as the days went on, she would be, like, ‘Okay cut!’ Like this is getting too intimate, but he just let it go. It was like he was trying to have things done to piss her off—or the opposite. It was weird. He was laughing. He thought it was so funny.”

by Anonymousreply 15May 28, 2018 12:07 AM

Well, if it was real sex, good for her. She needed some after being with closet case cult member Timmy

by Anonymousreply 16May 28, 2018 12:10 AM

There is another scene in the movie, where he is on top of her thrusting between her legs. Her back is arched and her head is tilted hack, a look of ecstasy on her face. The story behind that scene is that when they first tried it, Kubrick was unhappy with the way Goba was thrusting.

“I’m kind of doing the smooth movement thing,” says Goba. “After the first take, he goes, ‘Oh, no—you’ve got to really give it to her, really slam it to her.’ I think she was in pain. I was slamming so hard it was hurting me. My bones were in pain. I was really, really banging into her. I think she even pulled back or pushed me away. I think it must have hurt her. Maybe that’s what he wanted, some painful expression—the two are almost the same, right?”

As the days wore on, Nicole seemed to become more and more uncomfortable with what they were doing. Goba theorizes that it was because they were becoming friends, that in the beginning, it might have been easier for her to engage in that behavior with him because they were strangers.

At the end of each scene we wouldn’t even acknowledge what we had done. We just moved on. We never talked about the scenes we shot.”

by Anonymousreply 17May 28, 2018 12:10 AM

When they completed their last sex scene, they got dressed, barely speaking, and left the studio, never to meet again. Says Goba today: “I’d seen pictures of her before—but you see so many pictures of beautiful women doing modeling—but, honestly, when I met her, she became more and more beautiful [each day]. Probably by the end of our six days, I was smitten with her.”

Eyes Wide Shut ended production in January 1998, just a couple of weeks after Goba’s sex scenes with Nicole. After the movie wrapped, she flew to Washington State to begin a new project, a comedy-drama entitled Practical Magic. A couple of weeks after beginning work on the new film, she was rushed back to Los Angeles, where she underwent a two-hour surgery for the removal of a benign ovarian cyst.

As it turned out, Nicole may have been in actual pain during Goba’s bone-jarring pelvic thrusts. The thrusts did not cause the cyst, but they may have aggravated the condition.

by Anonymousreply 18May 28, 2018 12:14 AM

And this is the movie where Nicole CANNOT act drunken.

This is the movie where Nicole has no idea HOW TO ACT stoned.

Ugh, she's so over-rated.

by Anonymousreply 19May 28, 2018 12:24 AM

Directors are a disgusting bunch. Ugly old creeps using the ruse of scoring the perfect shot to get off on making people their sexual puppets.

by Anonymousreply 20May 28, 2018 12:55 AM

... and he's a real estate agent!

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by Anonymousreply 21May 28, 2018 1:05 AM

R21 Hahahaaaaa

by Anonymousreply 22May 28, 2018 1:14 AM

This thread would be more popular with photographic evidence. If we want to read, we can find a Jackie Collins novel. Men are visually stimulated. We need to see this man!

by Anonymousreply 23May 28, 2018 1:28 AM

R23 - for you

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by Anonymousreply 24May 28, 2018 1:37 AM

The TC Troll is fucking tiresome

by Anonymousreply 25May 28, 2018 1:37 AM

R24: Thank you! That's a start.

by Anonymousreply 26May 28, 2018 1:43 AM

R20 not all but, yeah, lots. Hitchcock would be a nightmare to work for today, with all that's allowed.

Audrey Hepburn dropped out of a film in the 1950s because Hitch inserted a scene where she, while pretending to be a whore, would be beaten and nearly raped.

He wanted Janet Leigh's bra off and bare tits rubbing against shirtless John Gavin in the first scene of Psycho but it wasn't possible.

He tortured Tippi Hedren to the verge of a nervous breakdown while filming The Birds, shutting production down for a week.

Against all advice, he included a scene of marital rape in Marnie telling the cinematographer, "I want the camera right on her shocked face at the moment of penetration."

He finally got to put an ugly rape-murder in Frenzy, with saliva dripping from the victim's tongue.

Can you imagine what he'd try today?

by Anonymousreply 27May 28, 2018 2:02 AM

R25 Why are you here?! Put my threads on ignore

by Anonymousreply 28May 28, 2018 2:21 AM

R28 your formatting is horrendous and you're insane.

by Anonymousreply 29May 28, 2018 2:54 AM

R29 I'm Glad you're torturing yourself by my horrendous insane threads.

by Anonymousreply 30May 28, 2018 3:02 AM

Gary Goba was hot around the time of EWS, but in his later years he's starting to get a hint of that Dean McDermott shaved baboon look. Still an attractive man regardless.

by Anonymousreply 31May 28, 2018 3:29 AM

R29, you can just fuck right off you ignorant hillbilly oaf. You’re a thread derailer and deserve a violent slap down and I am just the whore to give it to you, you got that baby doll? Now piss off before I get seriously cunty.

by Anonymousreply 32May 28, 2018 3:29 AM

Hot!

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by Anonymousreply 33May 28, 2018 3:30 AM

Yum

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by Anonymousreply 34May 28, 2018 3:31 AM

Did he pop his big thick cock into her twat or not? If not then who gives a shit. At least Harvey Keitel shot his load into Kidman's hair!

by Anonymousreply 35May 28, 2018 3:38 AM

R32 Tom Cruise Troll from another device

by Anonymousreply 36May 28, 2018 3:43 AM

R32 No, It's not me.

by Anonymousreply 37May 28, 2018 12:29 PM

Hollywood lesbians

by Anonymousreply 38May 28, 2018 12:42 PM

More proof she'd do anything to be in movies...

by Anonymousreply 39May 28, 2018 1:57 PM

She is a whore, darlin.

by Anonymousreply 40May 28, 2018 2:25 PM

[quote]Did he pop his big thick cock into her twat or not? If not then who gives a shit. At least Harvey Keitel shot his load into Kidman's hair

Gross.

by Anonymousreply 41May 28, 2018 2:29 PM

I find it unsettling how much these lesbians lie. Paltrow Is going out of her way to discuss Affleck. These are lavender marriages. Everything out of their mouthes is lies.

by Anonymousreply 42May 28, 2018 4:05 PM

Did he get a boner? Was she wet? Did it slip in?

by Anonymousreply 43May 28, 2018 4:06 PM

R27 Kubrick's behavior reminds me of Hitchcock while filming Torn Curtain. Hitchcock resented the studio forcing him to use stars, Paul Newman and Julie Andrews, for box office so he wasn't nice to them.

It's a sure bet Cruise and Kidman were only cast for box office purposes as both were wrong for their parts. It was, in any case, a bad picture, badly marketed. It was sold as some kind of erotic thriller but it was quite anti-erotic. The whole point of the plot seemed to be all the trouble sex and prurience leads to.

by Anonymousreply 44May 28, 2018 4:10 PM

He now sells Real Estate and lives in Toronto

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by Anonymousreply 45May 28, 2018 4:12 PM

It must have been interesting for Nicole to have a guy to look to.

by Anonymousreply 46May 28, 2018 4:17 PM

R44 Bullshit. Kubrick had final say in casting. He wanted hits. Tammy and Nicholas were both popular so he made the choice.

by Anonymousreply 47May 28, 2018 4:18 PM

Wow, R47, chill.

If he cast them because he "wanted hits" they were cast for box office. If those were his ideal choices and no one influenced him it says a lot for Kubrick's taste.

Bad casting to make money. I guess he wasn't the pure artist his fans claim. But that was apparent well before EWS.

by Anonymousreply 48May 28, 2018 5:51 PM

R48 Why do you think Ryan O'Neal was cast for Barry Lyndon? Because he was a good actor? Kubrick was very mindful of every stage of production. He even knew what the production balance sheet was like for every production. He really was a megalomaniac. He was artistic for a commercial director but he was more mainstream than he was given credit for. Remember that he handed AI off to Spielberg.

by Anonymousreply 49May 28, 2018 6:04 PM

Yes, Kubrick thought that what the history of narrative cinema was lacking was a 3-hour Ryan O'Neal movie. Arguably a worse choice than Tom Cruise.

With a year and a half to film it, Eyes should have been better, even with Cruise involved. There were still plot holes and other problems. I mean, Kidman has turned in some very good performances with the right director but here Kubrick lets her get away with many bad line readings.

by Anonymousreply 50May 28, 2018 6:17 PM

R50 I get your sarcasm on RON and Kubrick but seriously Kubrick was obsessed with doing a Napoleon film. He did extensive research on the Napoleon film and didn't end up doing it. Barry Lyndon was the next best thing. Then again he cast Shelly Duvall in The Shining. Who was nominated for a Razzie on her terrible acting in that highly overrated film.

by Anonymousreply 51May 28, 2018 6:23 PM

I hear you but Duvall is like Greta Garbo compared to O'Neal and Cruise. Agree that The Shining is overrated but it does have a few moments despite the hammy overacting.

by Anonymousreply 52May 28, 2018 6:36 PM

R47 R48 Yes, Kubrick did cast Tom and Nicole, but it was based on their "popular actor" perspective, rather than their ability to act, of the whole movie. There are interviews of Kubrick stating this and veiling it in such a way as to not totally humiliate Tom and Nicole. The documentary, Room 237, explains it better.

by Anonymousreply 53May 28, 2018 10:23 PM
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