Harry & Sparkle's Wedding - Thread FOUR!!!!!

Pub to fine customers who mention the royal wedding on Saturday

The Alexandra Hotel in Derby has banned mention of Harry and Meghan's nuptials on Saturday and will fine those who talk about it.

Should we have a ban on Sparkle talk from tomorrow on?

In America we have a constitutional right to free speech. Too bad for you Brits.

Nah R2. The fun has just begun.

Will mainstream news ignore the elephant in the room, re Bishop Morgan Freeman's horrendous speech?

Will it be racist to speak ill of the speech?

R5, yes it will be ignored. It’s racist to say anything negative about it.

Did the wedding planners know the Muslims would be to tired from Ramadan to do an attack?

Good point R7. Smart planning to keep the Muslims away.

Joy Reid: “this was truly an African American service”

Just now seeing Oprah walking in that outfit. She normally looks surprisingly good, considering her weght, but today she looks like hell. Can't imagine what she was thinking wearing this light-colored knit.

I agree, i didn't think oprah looked good at all. this is what happens when you only have yes people around you.

What channel u on R10 ?

I"m sorry, but she didn't look good at all. she could have looked sooooo much better, poor choice. that veil is ridiculous.

I was surprised by how touching I found it - much nicer than the snoozefest of William & Kate. Loved the choir singing "Stand by Me". Meghan looked beautiful but I think she would have suited a short-sleeved dress more. Her mum looked lovely too.

R9 Joy didn't see Elton John!

i didn't watch the wedding. beauty sleep is more important.

I couldn't watch the wedding, but my mother told me Harry spent the whole time in a state of clear anxiety. According to her, it was as if he was expecting to meet the Grim Reaper at any moment! (lol)

Face it, Harry! Your bachelor days are over: soon you'll have three children and will grow bald like your brother! (lol)

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Is R14 for real -- they played/sung "Stand By Me"? WTF...

The flowers in Meghan's bouquets were hand picked by Harry from Princess Diana's garden.

The groom’s hair is a bit of a mess as well.

Harry turned beet red very early on in the service. I didn't know if it was the clothes, the stress, the emotions about his mother, or what. But he looked distinctly uncomfortable.

R18, wow, her dress looks even worse in the pic you posted. so ugly! she must be blind or too many yes people in her life or simply bad taste.

Harry was getting cold feet but there was nothing he could do...remember he told the crowds, " can't wait! " yesterday ?? lol...

c'mon, we know many people like harry. guys who don't grow up and never do. harry is just like that. loves to party and drink and have fun. He is still a boy really.

wow, maybe he realized he made a huge mistake but there is no going back. imagine if he said "no, I don't" at the alter? haha...

I doubt he was having second thoughts.

I doesn’t matter who he’s married to... they’re each going to be having affairs soon.

Sorry, R12. NBC.

Why all the celebrities at the wedding, Oprah, Elton, Clooney's? Are they close friends or just for show?

R29, just for show of course! she's a famewhore! or maybe harry's contacts, who knows? Harry does UN work, and knows amal thru that? whatever. she looked like shit anyways in that mustard dress. she must know she looks ridiculous but wants the attention. some people do this deliberately.

WTF was George the Page Boy wearing?

Elton was there to sing. and he sang at harry's mom's funeral.

Charlotte was a star and an exhibitionist. LOL.

Mike Tindall and the cellist were hot. I'd like him to rub my belly like that...

R12 - I believe Elton is singing at the reception.

I'm surprised the American preacher's speech didn't finish Prince Philip off.

I think Harry is gonna be banging one of the exes very soon, i think 2 of them were there today. he looks the most compatible with chelsey or however you spell her name.

I agree, Harry will be cheating soon, but Megan will be trying to get pregnant asap and probably won't be cheating...

No balcony for this couple. They have to kiss on the steps.

R31 that George has "it", whatever "it" is!

Elton will do a tribute to Diana. Hope it isn't Candle in the Wind again. Way too depressing for what should be a joyful day. Can You Feel the Love Tonight would be nice?

wow!!!! R36. that picture!!! LOL. i'm sorry for laughing but thanks for making me laugh! he's 96. i'm surprised he was walking fine after the hip surgery.

Yahoo's reporting Oprah had to forego her intended ensemble for this Stella McCartney. The first wss considered inappropriately bridal.

Ginger lifting Nutmeg's veil. Her close set eyes are noticeable.

I think Sophie the Countess of Wessex was the best dressed royal.

The cello music, at the end, was beautiful.. the best part of the wedding, very beautiful. The other parts of the wedding, I had to laugh at the awkwardness and the reactions of the Royals and the guests.

Diana's niece, Lady Kitty Spencer, was definitely one of the best dressed guests.

this lady fell asleep! she's never gonna be invited again!

Earl Spencer's wife wore a stylish purple outfit.

That fucking messy hair ruined everything. Looks like she just got of a soul cycle class, not a wedding. And it totally fucked up the shot of the kiss because the hair looked like such an unkempt disaster.

Fuck off r15.

Pippa and her baby bump.

victoria beckham....her dress...is that from her label? worst advertising...she should have worn something better, she missed a great opportunity to showcase her label. but hey maybe that's the best dress in her label. it's shite anyways....

yeah, that hair is a disaster. guess the hairdresser missed a big opportunity to get more work, now people will avoid him. doesn't he know how to use hair pins to pin the hair back?

Sarah Ferguson appeared to be drunk but at least she dressed nicely,

Big Bird with her husband George.

R54, she looks nice...for a change.

The smug smile that says "I played him like a violin".

R44, she looks like a truck driver in drag!

Charlotte wants to be Queen so bad.

She’s gonna make sure her gay older brother gets moved out of the way.

Charlotte looked like she's grown a lot. They shouldn't have straightened her hair so much.

Prince George is so shy...

Charlotte is a character. very cute.

Nutmeg just can't help herself. She just loves the camera!

The wedding cake to be served at the reception. Ugh...interesting.

did the father really have heart surgery? where are the pictures? is it fake news?

I read that the fucking cake costs 50k! and it's nothing to look at.

She wore flowers in her hair.

The hats remind me of the race track scene from My Fair Lady.

R46 Lady Kitty for the Takedown! Damn!!

Here's Carol Ann Duffy's poem for the wedding. Incidentally, she is the first woman, the first Scot, and the first lesbian to be poet laureate.

Nutmeg knows where the camera is at all times!

A boring Gray Suit (aka red faced Prince Charles) walking the bride.

Lady Kitty Spencer.

A flower pot apparently landed on Carole Middleton's head.

Pipa's dress draws arizona ice tea can comparisons lol.

I think she looks nice but lol when I read the article. it kinda looks like it lol.

aristocrats, inbreeding, yikes

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex on their carriage tour around Windsor.

Even Princess Push managed a wave.

I guess there are no "rules" for wearing a veil anymore. A divorced woman can do it too. My how times have changed.

These threads were so much nicer before the idiots woke up. Still had some trolls, but they were mostly tolerable, not the unbridled hate and rage from some in this thread.

I thought the veil was way too long compared to the dress train.

There's that " cat that ate the canary" smile

What a bizarre wedding for the guest list. How did Oprah Winfrey manage to insert herself into the proceedings to an extent she's got prime real estate in the seating? The Royal Family on one side, and everybody who now pretends not to have known Harvey Weinstein on the other. Weird.

She’s so bland. Well, Kate is, too. And that Pippa. Basic Bitch Heaven.

Basic bitches can give themselves all the cute nicknames they want, still doesn’t make them interesting.

The bride arriving at St George's.

Well, it was that, r52 or this.

LOL that would have been hilarious if she'd shown up in that getup.

R82 - I have a suspicion that Oprah was invited by Meghan's mother. Doria was recently interviewed by her.

megan is of average looks. see plenty of women like her on the subway.

her dress costs 270k! what a waste of money!

Was there a major fuck up? It is normal for the bride and groom to curtsey and bow to the Queen before the recessional. Those two just cruised on by.

David Beckham looking fiiiiiine

Are those midgets at r80? I didn't know The Court still kept amusement midgets.

It looks to me like Prince George gave the recessional a big fuck you. I didn't see him with the rest of nursery school.

Harry and William wore two of the ugliest uniforms I've ever seen. They should have stuck with morning suits.

did she wear a white dress?????

He did hang back with his parents. Hilarious. I've had enough of this bullshit.

[quote]These threads were so much nicer before the idiots woke up. Still had some trolls, but they were mostly tolerable, not the unbridled hate and rage from some in this thread.

Thank God the wedding was, when it was. Many NICE people on here, having a nice time

Chartreuse! The Queen wore Chartreuse!

i agree, what 's with the black stuff down the front of the uniforms?

Kate with Charlotte.

Prince George has attitude, and was OVER this spectacle.

William with George.

The Queen looked beautiful. That green color, with the violet accents, was a good color for her.

R99 - black frills.

R103 = The Queen.

R42, any photos of what she would have worn?

Few thoughts:

Guests: Amal Clooney looked wonderful. I loved the outfit but her hair was a little all over the place. Oprah looked a little stuffed. Posh Spice's outfit was a miss, and David looked decent. Tom Hardy could fuck me in the pew, he looked damn hot. Zara is consistently wonderful looking at these events, she was rocking the pregnancy look.

Location: Windsor is gorgeous in the sun, but doesn't work as well on TV when compared to Westminister Abbey/Buckingham Palace. Everyone wants a balcony kiss with the bride showing her nervous wow face at the crowd size. Kissing on the steps is so common.

Meghan: Her dress was very nice and age appropriate (she is an old bride), but it was as forgetful as the rest of the wedding. The tiara was nice, the hair was an issue and I wish she wouldn't have shown her freckles (a personal thing).

Harry: They did him wrong zooming in on his bald spot when he arrived. The media did the same think to William at his wedding. I love black British uniforms, but hated the frill or whatever the fuck he had on the front.

Catherine: probably still side-eyeing Meghan for the Pippa wedding crap. I have always said that Kate seems like a Grade-A CUNT. I could tell from her fake wedding smile. You can tell that if given the option, or a well time pregnancy bedrest order, she would have gladly skipped this wedding. She didn't smile.

Sermon: he should not have droned on for 13 minutes getting loud and such in front of her Majesty. Whoever invited him should spend the rest of the evening in The Tower.

Overall: I really like Meghan and Harry but this wedding was a bit of a let down. She had to speed to the church to arrive on-time, though she was right on time. Her dress was boring, but who can top Kate's? Harry's uniform was ugly. There were no real brides maids and the children were way underutilized, but the twin boys were cute additions. No balcony kiss, due to the location. The carriage didn't look royal and the preacher was a disaster. NO ONE IN THAT CHURCH LOOKED HAPPY OR IMPRESSED :( The chellist, weather, and shots of the castle were the highlight.

More David. And Posh looking as if she forgot to wipe.

Harry looks scruffy. At least shave for your big day. And he’s balding badly too.

[quote]Was there a major fuck up? It is normal for the bride and groom to curtsey and bow to the Queen before the recessional. Those two just cruised on by.

R89 I've been querying that for the last 3 threads. I thought it was because Megs is American that they skipped the wedding curtsy, even though I've seen photos of her curtsying to the Queen. Haven't found any explanation as to why in this instance they skipped the after-ceremony curtsy to the Queen.

R103, I thought it was one of the worst colors she's ever worn. Frankly, whoever suggested it should be locked in the Tower of London.

[quote]The bride's hair turned into a sloppy mess with annoying tendrils sticking out at the back.

Really, Mary - SHUT the fuck UP!

Too bad many of the men didn't know how to dress.

Meg's whole look had a feeling of the Maria about it, so of course I approve.

r111 we are going to have a full Tower tonight with the number of fuck ups at this wedding. Whoever invited that Preacher should be the first in line. If it's Meghan than her assistant can do the time since Meghan is now a HRH.

The bride goes for a car ride.

Oh well, they've married now. All the haters have left is to wait for the impending divorce.

The sun working its magic.

The Queen is quite progressive. She doesn’t care about the curtsying shit, and she didn’t seem to mind the black preacher droning on.

She knows the Monarchy needs to adapt to modern realitiea to stay relevant.

I thought her dress was elegant. And they did curtsy. Beautiful day and beautiful couple.

I thought the period car was kitsch.

Otherwise, it was perfect.

The preacher was hilarious, in retrospect. Awful at the time.

OK, wedding coverage still on at CNN. Lots of bad commentary. Of course, the American self-proclaimed royal historian on and on about how wonderful the sermon was. One interesting comment was how the Queen knew Billy Graham so she wasn't a stranger to American preaching. The claim was that he had preached for her, which was news to me. I wonder when.

Did Jesus get a mention in that sermon?

Love this hot bitch.

The Queen is addicted to televangelism.

[quote]The Queen is quite progressive. She doesn’t care about the curtsying shit, and she didn’t seem to mind the black preacher droning on.

What could she have done? Stood up and shreiked "ENOUGH OF THIS BULLSHIT ALREADY"?

The new Duke and Duchess emerging from St George's Chapel.

Fergie was there and looked wonderful. I love this woman. She swoops in like a warm breeze and is all genuinely warm with an attendant. Looks wonderfully sleek, yet popping with pizzazz. LOVE HER.

[quote]The Queen is quite progressive. She doesn’t care about the curtsying shit,

Utter rubbish. The Queen is a stickler for protocol. Both her children and grandchildren as well as all of her rellies curtsy and bow to her in public.

The QUEEN wanted it to be sunny and bright at the wedding, and LO, it was so. If she'd wanted to, the preacher would have been struck dumb and deaf and turned into a pile of dust before our eyes. She didn't, and she's THE QUEEN, so she's sat through much longer and more boring shit than that sermon, which was hilarious and memorable in retrospect.

R128 = Fergie

Hi Sarah Ferguson at R128.

Doria looked like a lonely figure.

I think Harry just wanted to get married before he lost all his hair.

The Queen had a brief notable scowl on her face, toward the end of the Bishop's rousing speech.

Fergie's daughters are a mess. Ugly dresses, ugly hair, ugly fascinators (so not). Just wrinkled and disheveled looking.

The Queen is in her 90's and was a mechanic in WWII. At this point, she's got every seniority check mark you can get and can say and do whatever she pleases. She's done with the bull on a royal level.

Nutmeg is always ready for her close up. Lights, camera, action!

[quote]Fergie was there and looked wonderful. I love this woman. She swoops in like a warm breeze and is all genuinely warm with an attendant. Looks wonderfully sleek, yet popping with pizzazz. LOVE HER.

I LOVE you Americans too.

I'll be back over there VERY soon, I promise!

The Queen has resting bitch face. Even she knows it. When she's trying to appear neutral she looks pissed off.

R132 Love her!

I've never had Prosecco. Is it like a non-bubbly champagne?

r142, it's bubbly.

The best dressed Kitty EVER!

It's what poor people like to pretend is champagne. I think it's from Italy.... thing boozy Sprite, the colour of apple juice.

Never boast about serving it. Ideally, never admit to knowing much about it.

R139 Mark me down for 20 of whatever you're selling!

isn't princess beatrice or the other one getting married? how come she isn't trying to lose weight? most females try to lose weight to look skinny on their wedding day. They still look plum.

You guys are missing Don Lemon on CNN.

That bitch at R124 is FIERCE.

Hi it's MeAgain.

[quote]Doria looked like a lonely figure.

At a normal wedding, she would have taken an elder gay pal from her yoga place.

But this was not a normal wedding, alas.

R133 She seems like a lovely lady.

I'm not gonna be hard on the York girls. Compared to what could have been they were dressed nicely. And Fergie also looked quite nice too. I was hoping for something ridiculous from them just for fun but they were ok.

Kitty killed it. Looks like she lost some weight. Hair and makeup were perfection. Good for her.

is she wearing a white dress? wow...no shame. how many times has she been married and how old is she? ooops, i forgot, she's an actress!

R147 - Princess Eugenie is getting married in October and getting fatter by the day.

Why do I have a feeling that George can’t stand Amal? She is ten times more camera thirsty than Meghan.

There's something about Priyanka Chopra that gets on my nerves.

[quote]You guys are missing Don Lemon on CNN.

That Ken Doll is such a bore! .

R147, they are typical Millennials... fat and do not care because it’s not their fault.

I did great, man!

R120 I thought so, too. Somehow down to earth, low-key yet elegant. It was formal enough but not distracting and put the focus on the vows.

R157... Her smarmy arrogance..

R159 Ya mean like Boomer Oprah blaming her whaledom on a "faulty thyroid"?

there is a video of david beckham greeting elton john with a kiss on the mouth and elton the licking his lips a few times afterwards LOL. it's so funny!

Who is she, R157?

Eugenie did look like she trimmed down a bit for a while there but it looks like she gained some back. Bea was porking up a bit for a while there too but it looks like she lost a little. I don't see the starvation diet thing that Kate and Meg did in Eugenie's future.

R157, i don't like her as an actress. she can't even do an american accent. terrible. unwatchable.

Once, r154. And out of curiosity how many cocks have you sucked the past hour alone?

Love Fergie too, r128.

Elton/Beckham kiss.

r147, maybe she is pregnant.

Oh Harry, you're hilarious!

Fergue is the picture of class.

David Beckham looked good but the wife looks like a miserable cunt.

A paparazzi was hanging from the ceiling.

I don't like Meghan at all but I don't get the hang up about the white dress. It's 2018. Half of marriages end in divorce. That means a lot of second time brides. And a lot of them wear white. It's a wedding thing, not a purity or virginal thing anymore and hasn't really been that in quite a while.

It's an English thing and those stuck up English people are probably having a good laugh behind her back among themselves.

James Middleton looked dashing.

r176 no one really cares, they are just pretending so they have one more thing to be offended by in regards Meghan. She could discover the cure for cancer and they'd be claiming she only did it for the publicity.

What’s wrong with Posh Vickie Beckham?

You’d think she’d be happier, getting that prime dick on the regular.

I remember Harry licking his tongue out at photographers when he was a boy and Diana dragging him away from the car window. Charlotte carries on the tradition.

Princess Michael's dress was tres droopy at the front and the necklace all skewed. Like she was rushed out through the door.

R176 Hush, today's she's a virgin!

She would have had a hairdresser for her big day, wouldn't she?

The royal brothers - then and now,

r157, I feel you on that. I watch Quantico and thought it was a horrible show but I couldn't look away and not watch it something about her repelled me and attracted me at the same time.

So some contrarian views... it was a disjointed service that felt flat somehow. You could tell Harry forced the skilled, experienced hands to pull back while he and the future Duchess of Success came up with successive great ideas to make it the best royal wedding - erm, our special day - ever.

Her dress was... a plain white dress. Politically astute but as a fashion, unmemorable.

She looked pretty. Shame about her hair but it wasn't a disaster. Excellent call on the tiara. Largely unknown, pretty, but not presumptuous.

The American pastor was showboating but probably sincere. Meagain was slightly nervous as he droned on... she kept glancing at Harry for a sign he wasn't calling Mischon de Reya from the carriage.

It was odd the Spencers should be seated in the nave while Oprah Winfrey and her like got prime real estate in the quire. How close was the bride to any of these celebrities? How the hell did Oprah get inserted into all this, to this extent?

Kitty Spencer wins the prize for best looking woman in the best dress at the wedding.

Oprah Winfrey wins the prize for money can't buy taste. She looked like she was destined for the Macy's parade.

Anal Clooney needs to learn when the spotlight is for her and when she's lucky to be near a particular spotlight. Her dress was interesting, but slightly ill fitting, her make up brash, her hair saggy.

A real standout was Doria Ragland, a dignified, sometimes poignant figure. She seems very, very likeable. I like she didn't lose the nose thing just because. Lovely outfit.

Princess Charlotte will rule the roost as the years go by. That one has it all figured out.

Prince George states his boundaries.

Prince Philip can still bust a move.

It will be interesting to see what happens next. I think she will have a very difficult time adapting to real life in the Royal Family. She wants to save the world, possibly for her own self satisfaction, and that's not how it's done with that lot.

r180 I just assume she has terrible teeth so she never wants to show them.

I remember Harry licking his tongue out at photographers when he was a boy and Diana dragging him away from the car window. Charlotte carries on the tradition.

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I think the photographers stick their tongue out at the young ones, hoping to get a photo op of them doing the same thing. It seems to work!

[quote]I remember Harry licking his tongue out at photographers when he was a boy and Diana dragging him away from the car window. Charlotte carries on the tradition.

That gurl's gonna be Queen one day. Mark my words.

She LOVES all the bullshit!

r185, Harry is so cute with his knickers on. He was always the cool kid, William so serious.

R186, i watched quanitco for like 2 episodes, her acting was just terrible and couldn't get the accent right. lots of hot guys on that show tho...

r147, only misogynists refer to women as 'females'.

[quote]Harry is so cute

Did someone say "cute"?

Some people are already moved on from the wedding and are thinking about the future

r193, african americans use "females" a lot instead of just say women. So one might infer something there, it has always bothered me. But that is a thread for another time, though.

I think most of the people looked fine. at least the royals didn't get horrible plastic surgery or injections of all sorts.

r195, harry can work the red hair but a lot cannot. Hopefully the brown hair will be the dominant gene.

r196, well, a lot African Americans are misogynists and have appropriated the language (and religion, etc.) of their oppressors.

ADORABLE on the right @ R195.

I think when QEII dies, Charles will abdicate and William will become King.

Then I think Charlotte will be next in line. George will not be interested.

It seems to be the way it works: the first born/heir is quiet, shy and serious while the spare is the outgoing, fun one.

Pride and Joy.

(Well, ok, that skipped Charles and Anne but it applies otherwise.)

Fantastic reactions from the Royals to the Rev. Yankee Doodle.

There is a moment where Kate and Camilla are completely suppressing giggles. William was totally smirking. The Ugly York StepSisters were trying not to laugh. Zara Phillips had this fantastic I cannot believe I am being held hostage to these gymnastics at eighteen months pregnant.

The weather was perfect

71F and low humidity.

The child will have white skin and curly reddish brown hair.

[quote]Then I think Charlotte will be next in line. George will not be interested.

I think it is more and more likely George will be remembered as The Bachelor King.

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Unless it's an Asian baby!

Doria looks so good in her outfit! One of the best dressed.

Yes, Doria looked nice...and sweet.

R198 Red hair is hot, especially in The US. If their kids inherit the ginger gene it will probably show itself as brick auburn.

i think amal is more of a fame whore than Megan, George looked so bored at the Met gala and this wedding.

R407 Look at George in the photo you posted. Everything about him says "I am so done with this". lol

R212 Amal seems sweet. She has a slightly self-conscious way about her that's endearing, considering how awful she could get away with being.

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R207 Oops! I meant 207's photo

Sarah, Duchess of York...my favorite royal! Sarah has personality and pizzazz. Love her, always have, And she looked fabulously chic at the wedding. She gets my vote for best dressed.

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[quote]She knows the Monarchy needs to adapt to modern realities to stay relevant.

No. Having to endure the ravings of a grand standing tent revival preacher is NOT a modern reality of life. Not in my world

The Queen looking like she just stepped inro some cow dung. Why is Prince Philip ram rod straight after hip surgery and the Queen is bent over? Maybe she has osteoporosis.

Why wasn't Sarah sitting with Prince Andrew and their daughters? She should have been.

r215 she looks like she always looks, an old gargoyle with resting bitch face.

Hi Anal Clooney at R214.

^ into

Anyone else think Daria is herself bi-racial? She's very light skinned. All this hoopla about Megs being black and I'll be a DNA test would show she's only 25% black.

r211, don't you mean on WOMEN. I don't find it that appealing on men, cept for Harry.

Run along Sarah, r217.

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Why was Clooney and the wife there? Is he friends with Harry...or a pretend friend??

R217 Exactly! Pizzazz!

I wonder if they were really listening to everything...philip probably zoned out. is he still on pain pills from the hip surgery?

I found it very odd that Daria had to sit all alone. She should have been able to bring her bff if there were no family members she wanted around her. She looked so lonely and uncomfortable.

R227 Wherever Fergie goes is where the actual party is.

Phillip seriously looks like he's starting to literally rot.

Meghan's mom is Canadian? Canadians are so stealth, man.

I have a buddy with red hair who once got told he looked like, "That guy from Mask."

r228 Camilla's just plotting about the Parker-Bowles Dynasty she wants to usher in, as well as wondering how the forgery of the Magna Carta is coming along, and how long until Theresa May discovers the little "surprise" she sent to her in the post.

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Put the bottle down and stop posting here, Fergie at R217.

what about tom hardy? wtf was he doing there? what is his connection?

tom was in many war movies, did he consult harry for the roles and become friends? i had no idea he knew them. and idris elba, he knows them how?

Good lord, Oprah. Your tits looked like balloons about to burst in that blah-colored, tight knit dress.

I guess Gayle wasn't there to tell her to take off that balloon exploding nightmare.

r239 that was a new dress made for her by Stella McCartney when Oprah got to the UK and discovered the other dress she'd chosen didn't fit.

Meghan looked nice. But I turned it off when the American preacher started talking. I'm atheist so that part didn't appeal to me. YMMV.

r234 = Meghan is a U.S. citizen. NOT CANADIAN. Americans refer to non-American citizens as "aliens. It's hilarious as a Canadian to hear the term "alien" because it is usually assocated with this:

239 - I saw Gayle. She was hosting her network's wedding coverage with a big fascinator on. Stedman was missing.

R240, the new dress didn’t fit either.

R220, my guess is that she was bent over because she was staring at the ground so she wouldn't trip and fall. When you see her leaving the castle to walk the dogs, which she still does, she looks fine.

Didn't they call him "Prince Henry" during the service?? I thought that was his official name?

Sarah did look better than I've ever seen her, R227

Sure it did....

That trolling of Trump by BBC3 needs its own thread.

Love it:

The wedding dresses of Diana, Catherine and Meghan.

r249 I also love their "we're good ta" response :D

And there were crowd truthers in that thread almost immediately, too!

R240. So Stella McCartney made Oprah a dress that didn't fit, and Oprah didn't discover it didn't fit until she got to London? I heard that Oprah discovered when she got to London, her original Stella McCartney dress was too white for a wedding, so Oprah chose this tight-fitting, blush colored thing.

Well guess what? Oprah's substitute dress didn't fit either.

Each wedding dress was appropriate for each bride, considering who they were, their age and place in the family.

The dress Di wore wouldn't be appropriate for anyone who wasn't some 20-25 years old getting married to the future king.

Kate's dress was flawless. Meghan's dress looks to me like a seamstress sample used for fittings. It was baggy and wrinkled too. What a disappointment.

Fergie looked fabulous!

Meghan's gown was ok but nothing spectacular. It didn't "wow" me. It just lacked that extra final touch. It needed some small detail to take away all of that white material. A little beading or lace would have added some pizzazz. Simplicity is nice but it can be boring. Her veil was too long and her bouquet was too smaill. The best feature was her tiara.

The neckline area of her dress, fabric looks too thick, bulky and not elegant.

r256 you can't see it in a lot of the photos but there's some lovely detailing around the middle.

Tee hee

R9 all that was missing was jumping the broom

I don't like the flowers on the tiara. It would look better without them.

worse than the dress is the tiny ring. so small and fug.

r262 the ring was simple, much like yourself.

What's that black preacher yelling about?

R253, too many people have tried to rewrite history on Diana's horrible dress. It looked suitable for a Beverly Hillbilly. One of the ugliest dresses I've ever seen. Considering her lack of education and being thrown into the lion's den, it was the best we could expect, I guess. Kate's dress reflected her, as did Meghan's. Meghan has good taste, generally, although she has to give up those coast that are too long for her. Beautiful tiara and diamond bracelet. It wouldn't have taken much to look overdressed with a fancy dress. She did it just right.

Prince Harry is worth at least 40 million, you would think he could afford a bigger and nicer ring.

I doubt the Queen and Prince Philip heard much, they are old and probably have hearing loss. Or maybe that's why the guy was yelling? I don't know I didnt watch.

There sure were lots of beautiful men at the wedding, Beckham, Clooney, Kate and Pippas brother amongst them

Whoever the "alien" troll is, Americans do not normally "refer to non-American citizens as 'aliens.'" In the U.S. "alien" is specifically a LEGAL term, most commonly used for residents of the U.S. who don't have U.S. citizenship. It's very similar to the use of the term in U.K. law.

If Meghan keeps straightening her hair, it's going to fall out. Her hair already looks like its damaged and thinning,

I'm an MSNBC addict; however, Stephanie Ruhle, Katy Tur and Joy-Ann Reid are not qualified at all, never, ever, never qualified to serve as commentators at a royal wedding. What a bunch of juvenile, screaming, unknowledgeable, immature girls. They were terrible and embarrassing. Sorry you silly bitches, but the gay men of CNN, Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper, were much more knowledgeable and dignified.

I meant coats, not coast.

R264 Only a Black American preacher has enough cajones to yell anything in Lizzie's face.

I was interested in the wedding but not enough to awake at the crack of crazy to view it. I appreciate the wedding threads. Glad I missed the long winded preacher.

the flowers in the wedding veil and the countries they represent

I love Windsor Castle as well as St George's Chapel but I didn't like the side seating arrangement of the bride and groom. The couple should be front and centre not hidden away where guests can't see them.

Her hair should have been plastered down.

I hope they televise Princess Eugenie's wedding in October. I want to see Sarah, Duchess of York, be center stage as mother of the bride and have all those other royals have to be nice to her. Fergie outdid them all at Harry's wedding today. She looked great and wore a smashing outfit; she was happy, smiling and thoroughly enjoying herself being there. Sarah knows how to react and receive a crowd.

I think she thinks she's going to be de facto Queen of the Commonwealth... she was banging on about it her engagement speech, erm, interview.

[quote] Meghan is a U.S. citizen. NOT CANADIAN. Americans refer to non-American citizens as "aliens. It's hilarious as a Canadian to hear the term "alien" because it is usually assocated with this:

I knew an English gurl in New York who used to say "I'm an illegal alien".

I remember saying "You really shouldn't describe yourself in that way".

R277 Pretty sure Philip plans to die before then.

She looks for the camera and finds it!

That black preacher was too friggin much. Okay, we get it...love, love, love! STFU. He went on too goddamn long.

Sara Ferguson can’t stop posting in this thread.

It wasn't a sermon, it was a performance.

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I SPARKLE - and you don't!!!!

R278, the firm needs a worker. And she's willing to step up, so Harry will be encouraged to do more of it. I think the Queen is glad to have her in the fold.

The preacher - followed by the Harlem choir singing "Stand By Me" was NUTZ.

God Lord help us. We can't take it anymore, we're going to explode.

[quote]Only a Black American preacher has enough cajones to yell anything in Lizzie's face.

So sick of these bullshit comments. As though some attention starved carnival barker is anything to us. He was barely tolerated and will be cast aside tomorrow, if not sooner.

Second kiss was in the carriage.

Did the black bishop go on too long? I can't tell from the comments.

Boys, you've been very, very naughty.

Oprah’s like a fucking hemorrhoid. Pops up at the most inopportune times.

[quote]She just can't behave with any relaxed dignity

No one told ME this was required.

The BBC coverage was wretched. I watched SKY.

The Revenge Dress

Clooney isn't friends with Harry. Why was he invited? Neither is Oprah for that matter.

When is Meghan due back on set at Suits?

The groom uniforms - Charles, William and Harry.

She wore a plain wedding dress without jewelry because she’s been married before and because she’s not royal or aristocratic. She’s saying, “This is me. This is what you get. No diamond necklaces or bracelets or ornate lace design. Just me.”

she would have looked better if she stuffed her bra a little. the dress is plain and the top area looks like it is missing something...and didn't look like it fit well.

R298 - Clooney and his wife are humanitarians and give to charities. Amal is a human rights lawyer. Oprah interviewed Meghan's mother Doria so I think Mom invited her. Plus, Meghan is a big fan of Oprah. Why would Meghan have to go back to Suits? By marrying into the Royal Family, she just landed the greatest role of her career.

The wedding was meant to feature people involved in charities. Clooney and his wife head up several global charities (including Darfur, so maybe our orphan was working the crowd for donations).

Harry does charity work for UNICEF. that's the only connection i can come up with...

OMG, Oprah's tits.

Harry was very emotional. Maybe he was thinking about his mother Diana,

No, Harry was freaking the fuck out. Most single guys are like this. Marriage is the graveyard of romance.

Who started the tradition of royal men wearing military uniforms to their weddings? I guess it's just a way of showing those pesky commoners they actually care about their country and are worthy of the millions spent on them.

Ok, which one of you bitches did this to Harry?

For all that talk about Charles walking her part way down the aisle, I thought it was a big dud. And her walking herself part way? Another dud.

And why are Anglican churches designed so that most people invited are in another room and didn't see what was happening but had to watch it on video screens?

Clooney was there as Globalism ambassador

I thought the church was nice.

I never really noticed it before but Harry resembles Diana in some photos.

So someone said that Tur and Ruhle were fun to watch so I switched to MSNBC and Joy Reid and party were STILL talking about RACE. God, she's tone-deaf as fuck. Switched back to Muir and Robin. Much more fun, informative, and they hit on the melancholy of Diana not being there but not over the top maudlin. It was meant to be a joyful event after all. The dress was okay but the veil and tiara could have been a bit more spectacular in contrast. The train was too long and awkward but the little fellows did a good job of keeping that hot mess in check. Showtime is being cheeky and airing a Tudors marathon. Rhys-Myers was such a beauty just a few years ago. Sad.

Why was the BBC coverage wretched?

I watched whatever was streaming on the Guardian, with DL commentary.

They both looked a bit unkempt.

[quote]She wore a plain wedding dress without jewelry because she’s been married before and because she’s not royal or aristocratic. She’s saying, “This is me. This is what you get. No diamond necklaces or bracelets or ornate lace design. Just me.”

Meanwhile, the same people who criticize her for being minimal and subtle, would react the same way if she went the other way and over-the-top. There are people who just live to be assholes.

The dress was boring. Her hair was falling apart--and she hadn't even done anything but walk down the aisle.

He couldn't shave? She didn't want her hair done right?

Royal men should not wear a military hat to the wedding--and then take it off during the wedding. Hats ruin men's hair. If you're going to wear that stupid military uniform even though you're no longer in the military, then leave the hair-busting hat back at the palace.

Why did her hair fall apart so obviously? If it is curly and dense, like her mother's, but chemically straightened, why does it appear so limp?

was she even wearing lipstick? looks like only lip gloss. I hope she didn't have to pay a make up artist to do her make up. she could have done it herself.

[quote]Meanwhile, the same people who criticize her for being minimal and subtle, would react the same way if she went the other way and over-the-top. There are people who just live to be assholes.

Nope. The dress WAS plain and her hair DID look like she just rolled out of bed.

Kate's wedding dress and hair were both flawless.

Oprah has never looked worse.

What does elderflower taste like?

I thought Meghan's dress was fine and looked good on her. It was a very good choice.

The American Bishop was the one that was ridiculous

Actually Oprah wasn't that bad, that was kind of subtle for Oprah. She didn't have time to lose weight.

I thought the processional lacked impact.

R323, maybe because it wasn't her first marriage or maybe she just wanted simple. The hair, I don't know what happened there, but I know it wasn't the end of the world.

I have very fine, straight hair and could never wear it up or in pigtails. Not even a headband. My hair works its way out of everything, including hats/baseball caps. It’s like my hair is too slick to be contained. I can’t really explain it. But I’ve worn my hair short most of my life to deal with it.

If you put my hair back and in a rubber band or clasp or anything, you’d find that band/clasp slid down four inches in an hour.

Heaven help a shepherds pie in front of the Oprah...

I thought Leia's dress was fine and looked good on her. It was a very good choice.

r330 Ok but did you ever have the best hairstylists at your disposal to keep it together for a couple hours?

I wonder if she's knocked up yet.

I watched the first few seasons of Suits and I remember her as being voluptuous. Very sexy and she filled out those fitted tops and pencil skirts just fine. She has definitely lost weight. Her legs are pencil thin. Not that it mattered today but she looks better with a few extra pounds on her.

Watching the wedding now. I’m out west. Is is being dubbed in Spanish on Telemundo. I don’t get these English churches that cut the nave in half and in turn, the congregation. I know old Catholic Churches did the same, but that was mostly old gothic churches. St. George is in gothic style, but is it really that old? Is it a class thing? Any information on this from our British brothers is appreciated.

I would definitely take diet advice from Oprah.

After the Annus Horribilis, Princess Anne has happily remarried. Charles has happily remarried. William is happily married. Hopefully, Harry and Meghan will be happily married. Now that he's further down the line of succession, Andrew should remarry Sarah, and another circle will be complete. Hopefully, he's just waiting for Philip to pass so as not to upset him.

Harry's ex-girlfriend must have a lot of self-confidence, because no doubt she knew people would be looking at her and thinking they know what she's thinking. She wouldn't have put herself in this situation if she weren't happy for him. I mean what ex would show up just to be dissected by a global audience if they were upset by it?

I thought her mother looked fabulous. Loved her dress, hair, and the Fascinator. She just looked so damn sad. Sitting all alone. Why didn't they have someone from the Royals sit with her?

r340 Those old crusty royals probably thought she was a servant, they weren't going to sit with her.

two of harry's ex girlfriends were there. no doubt they will be his side pieces.

Well, I volunteered, R340, but they said nein. I even would have had her sit on my lap.

Slept through the wedding and just started reading the threads - did I wake up on Celebitchy? Where did the vicious queens go who were going to provide classic DL snark on the unscrupulous stripper bride?

R341, I get that you're making a funny, but the royals meet with African diplomats/royalty all of the time.

It's only in the WH these days that blacks are seen as the help.

So glad that the Trumps weren't there to stink up the place!

But i wish the Obamas were.

Nobody's happier that this thing is over with than Oprah's brassiere and Spanx.

Her hairdo aside, which always misses the mark, she actually looked pulled together for this. Which surprised me. I was expecting some weirdness to her outfit, and the only thing "out of place" I could pick on was the veil could have been as long as the train , and not so long. The real mess was that god damn preacher who would just not shut the fuck up! Granted he knew this was his time to shine on the world stage, but I could see The Queen, getting pissed, making mental notes, that this is going to be the last time Megs will be inserting her stamp if you will on public events. Im sure she is going to be kept under thumb going forward. Shes going to make mistakes too, and thats ok. Good job on the social climb...be careful, it might be a long hard fall out of that gilded cage you flew into.

Prince charles recently met a lady reporter from manchester city and he said she didn't look like she was from manchester. this was just last month. Her name is Anita Sethi.

This is what megan has to deal with. good luck to her!

Were the Obama’s invited ?

R285 All I can say is one man's trash is another man's treasure: How could you find anything wrong with any of that? She's a beaming flicker of life in that family. So much fun and I wish we'd see more of her everywhere. Plus, growing up in the 90's she's like the pop cultural fun-time auntie for my generation.

Watching the preacher now. Good golly, where the hell did they dig him out? Those hand and arm gestures have me thinking he’s self translating for the deaf and hearing impaired (yeah, I’m looking at you Phillip).

I wonder if Melania had the routine 'procedure', that apparently is taking a week to recover from, as an excuse in case anyone with any balls asked her or Trump why they weren't going to the vedding.

I liked Meghan's dress much more than Kate's dress. Neither were spectacular, however each suited the bride who wore it. I agree that Meghan's veil was too long. I thought Harry was going to faint when they were standing at the alter. I found both weddings to be meh.

[quote]It's only in the WH these days that blacks are seen as the help.

Are you saying the Obamas didn't eradicate racism in the White House? The last POTUS, leader of the free world, was a black man.......and yet racism still thrives in our country? How can this be? Because all we're hearing today is how darling Megs (and her nutty preacher) are "bringing the monarchy into the 21st century".

R351, no.

Her veil is bland, her dress is bland, her personality is bland, and she is basic pretty. What else to state.

She needed some of what Oprah has too much of to fill in the top of the dress. Or a better bra to lift and seperate. Just too much material and not enough oomph.

David Beckham did look great, he showed up all the other men in attendance.

And love that he greeted Elton John with a peck on the lips r170.

R356, more like the absolute trash of America reared its ugly head and showed that regardless of your accomplishments as a black man and behavior as a family man, the trash will always revert back to their low-life ways and gravitate to a scheming, adulterous, lying, corrupt, racist low-life due solely to his top layer of epidermis (under the orange candy-coating).

[quote]Anyone else think Daria is herself bi-racial? She's very light skinned. All this hoopla about Megs being black and I'll be a DNA test would show she's only 25% black.

Doria looks like a pretty standard African American woman. Black Americans are a mixed race people, with centuries of sexual mingling.

Charles has gained himself another wife.

[quote]Catherine: probably still side-eyeing Meghan for the Pippa wedding crap. I have always said that Kate seems like a Grade-A CUNT. I could tell from her fake wedding smile. You can tell that if given the option, or a well time pregnancy bedrest order, she would have gladly skipped this wedding.

Yes to all this. Her public statement to Harry’s engagement was SO passive-aggressive. You know these two ladies won’t be sharing bottles of red and gossiping together.

Gay men dislike their mothers. Gay men sound bitchy like their mothers. Gay men turn into their mothers. That is all.

R336, St. George’s is over 500 years old and predates even the founding of the Church of England. While built toward the end of the period, it is indeed Gothic proper.

While the minister may have done a poor job giving the homily it’s not like he’s some random minister. He is the head of the Queen’s church in America and I’m sure she was happy to have him there.

R363 - Doria looked better than Camilla.

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Camilla is so drunk she's clinging to a walking heart attack.

[quote] but did you ever have the best hairstylists at your disposal to keep it together for a couple hours?

I could have Jesus Christ put my hair up and bless it, cover it with Jesus hair spray and it would not stay up for one hour, let alone a couple of hours. And I would tell this to hair stylists who would say, “Nonsense! People just haven’t been doing it right!” Then they would do it and watch it fall out before I left the shop. “OMG, your hair is HAUNTED!”

Back in the days when perms were popular (think “Fatal Attraction”) I would get a perm and not wash my hair for 5 days and my hair would be half straight after I washed it and fully straight 3 weeks later. Stylists would accuse me of washing my hair too soon. Thank goodness that fad didn’t last.

What's the point of having 10 children in the wedding party only to whisk them away as soon as they reached the aisle? What a waste.

[quote]Gay men dislike their mothers. Gay men sound bitchy like their mothers. Gay men turn into their mothers. That is all.

I can't argue with this in the case of many when I see how many worship awful, older women like that Michael of Kent or whatever the fuck her name is. I love my mother, so I can actually see how appalling a person someone like that old bitch truly is and in the same breath, they refer to Meghan and her mother as "ghetto" based solely on skin color.

If you're Catherine you probably see Meghan somewhat like yourself, a gold digging, commoner grifter but worst and American gold digging, commoner grifter who's trying to take your shine away. That's probably why she doesn't like her.

Any family that has Camilla in it has no right to look down their long Windsor noses at anyone else.

Charles looks like he might die before his mother.

She looks relieved.

He looks like death's knocking at his door.

R340, if there’s anything about this that makes me choke up, it’s Doria. It’s a little “Stella Dallas”....

Since the couple held hands a lot throughout the ceremony, this gesture looked oddly out of place.

Doria looked very beautiful, like some penitent saint and seer. She fit right in, sitting up there in that old place.

His skin and face looks like hell, R377, but I was surprised by how sprightly he seemed at the wedding. I read he's skipping most or all of the balance because his recovery is so slow he's using a wheelchair part of the time... yet he seemed steady on his feet and strong at the wedding.

But today particularly I thought they both looked quite old and that's the first time I ever thought that about the Queen. I just thought she looked tired.

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Prince Philip: What the hell did we just witness?

The Queen: I'm not quite sure. I'm not amused but j ust keep smiling and wave to the people.

I'm pretty sure all of the shit that happened with Andrew-Fergie and Charles-Di-Camilla were far worse for her than witnessing her grandson marrying a woman he actually chose and loves.

The dress was TOO simple and plain. It needed something extra. Some lace or beading, a jewelled belt or an interesting sleeve like this one (Dutch royal bride).

R79, I'm guessing that "the idiots" with "the hate and rage" who "woke up" and ruined your precious wedding threads are on the West Coast and some might even have to deal with fake-o actresses like the bride in real life, so aren't quite as gullible or MARY! as you are.

But you really are MARY! because the DL Queens are being very kind today. There's better snark from the Frauen on this TUMBLR blog.

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The gown cost twenty grand and it isn't even leather? It needed bows or somethin'.

I imagine Catherine sees Meghan as quite uppity and an irritating distraction. Meghan plugged away as an actress with no success until she was nearly off the shelf at 30 and was very ambitious and focused on stuff outside of her relationships. Catherine probably hates that Meghan is outgoing and loves a crowd and is eager to perform the meet and greet charity bullshit work that she and William doesn’t really want to do much. Meghan can be a bit freer than Kate, but she’s also junior to Kate and I am sure Kate will want to keep her in line.

Cecil Beaton in his Ascot scene was making fun of the hats English women wore.

Maybe his humor was too sly because as somebody pointed out women in England now take inspiration from them.

Even Oprah for god's sake who looks like she must have gone on the daily Thanksgiving diet. Or else she's in training for a female remake of Raging Bull.

That was really sweet of Camilla to match her dress to Charles' face.

Nice touch.

How much do you think Oprah eats everyday to get that fat? All the while she’s shilling for Weight Watchers. Unbelievable.

Please, most of Prince Harry's military saga is RF PR and fable to hero him up after his deplorable Nazi and Vegas nudie antics.

Things I liked about the wedding: The bride's dress/veil/tiara was much better than I could have expected given her awful style during the engagement. She never wore anything that looked right on her or fit, or was really appropriate. So I was expecting too much or too little (too tight, too coyly sexy while trying not to seem like she was trying to be sexy, etc.) and I thought it looked really good and the veil / tiara also looked good. Her mom looked great. The royal family looked better than I've seen them at most previous weddings, and I loved the black on the page boys and the simplicity of the bridesmaids dresses and shoes. The only absurdity was the ever super-thirsty Jessica Mulroney trying to have a Pippa moment in a fishtail dress highlighting her bum. She's like a damn real housewife. Also liked most of the hats.

I don't think this is going to last. It's been a freak show during the entire run-up, including most of Meghan's appearances. I think Harry was trying to save face, and saving face causes more disasters than anything else, yet people still try to do it. I think the dude is gay.

The first part of the preachers speech was actually quite nice. Then he went off the rails

Was Ivanka able to watch it on TV?

Chares also likes to match his curtains.

R201, About your prediction for Charles:

Hahahahaha! You're an IDIOT!!

R390 - Meghan is FREE-er? Meghan is one of the most tightly controlled and controlling people ever to wed a royal. As for focusing on her career, she spent the better part of her Suits job PRIORITIZING relationships. She was trading in and trading up and trying to upgrade the entire time. Suits gave her a platform to land a rich status man. She succeeded beyond probably her wildest ambitions but prior to Harry she was targeting and failing to land any number of status men, from sports figures to business men. She was smart enough to know she wasn't much of an actress, and she used Suits the smart way - as a platform to get her access and make connections.

She did well for herself. Besides marrying Harry, she merched and papped her ass off during the engagement, probably making more $$ than she made in her entire acting career, and set herself up for the next act whenever it arrives.

Why is Charles so red? Is it just alcohol, or it a circulation problem?

I didn’t love or hate the dress. I did, however, dislike the veil. I believe the dress would have been perfect with short sleeves, fitted bodice, with a grand, flouncy, long skirt. The dress was much to big on her. She probably lost a few more pounds than expected in the last two weeks leading up to the big day.

And of course Reverend Mike’s speech was just too long and silly.

Let’s wish them well. Meg has hit the ground running, and has had quite a busy calendar. The girl doesn’t mind working. Surely she’ll get some rest as soon as she becomes an expectant mother to be, but otherwise, she has already shown that she is earning her keep.

[quote]What does elderflower taste like?

stop by my place lad and find out

Good lord, Meghan's mother has a goddamn foolish nose ring.

[quote]Just a reminder. This is the character of the man.

His mother raised him right and he sees the worst of humanity all of the time with the public/media. I'm not surprised.

Sarah's back. Outshines them all.

When Sophie married Prince Edward, her gown was relatively plain and I think the wedding was private, not televised. He was like 5th in line at the time, kinda where Harry is now.

Little George was more outgoing a couple years ago when he was Charlotte's age so I think this is a phase he is going through.

IIRC, both Diana and Kate walked down aisles that had a red carpet. Is that restricted to actual heirs? Because those two page boys carried Megan's veil halfway up the aisle. It drooped in the middle and I thought it was going to snag on the stone steps outside. Note how long Meghan had to pause while they adjusted it. I had just watched the documentaries of both Diana and Kate's entrance and there was NO pausing going up the steps. It was like, I'm going to be a Queen, and everything falls into place like magic.

Funniest omission, the BBC not mentioning Fergie at her entrance.

There's nothing wrong with Camilla. Her first husband cheated on her relentlessly. Diana cheated on Charles with countless men - she racked up more numbers than he did. She was friends with one of his mistresses - the crazy Kanga, and even wore Kanga's clothes when Kanga did a stint as a designer. It was just Camilla specifically she hated. Probably because Camilla was everything she wasn't - unpretentious, liked all the same activities Charles liked, loved the country.

Sophie and Edward's wedding was televised, and included a carriage ride.

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Sarah's been sneaking into a few royal events since Kate and Wills married. She even represented the RF at a wedding (a relatively minor one, granted).

Kate just had a damn baby - it's what fits her and is appropriate. If she bought a new outfit she'd be accused of trying to steal focus. Diana wore quite a plain looking polka dot thing when Andrew married Fergie.

[quote]Harry and William wore two of the ugliest uniforms I've ever seen. They should have stuck with morning suits.

Why did the boys both wear their Sgt. Pepper outfits but Charles came as a civilian? Isn't he still Grand Admiral of the Fleet or something?

Props to Harry for making his hat work for him. I thought he looked like a young Russian Czar in it.

[quote]Diana cheated on Charles with countless men - she racked up more numbers than he did

Don't make it sound like it didn't start with him cheating

Meghan Markle’s Father, Thomas, Issues A Statement About The Royal Wedding

“My baby looks beautiful and she looks very happy.”

She's a beautiful woman and you'd have to be blind not to see it...or more likely, just bitter idiots who didn't get lucky in the looks dept.

It started because Diana got infatuated with her own celebrity and would do what she wanted. Leave the table before the queen left, stay in her room during family outings at Balmoral. She did the same shit lots of people do, pretend to be one thing before the marriage and turn into something else afterwards. The marriage didn't flounder because of Camilla, it floundered because Charles and Diana had nothing in common, didn't get along, resented each other, and were drama queens. Charles went to Camilla because his marriage was a shambles. It wasn't a shambles because he went to Camilla.

He certainly didn't force Diana to stalk married men after their marriage floundered. For a poor soul whose husband cheated, Diana was certainly vicious to the wives of men with whom she had affairs. Ask Will Carling's wife.

The irony of Camilla being beside Charles wasn’t lost upon me. But let’s face it, it was never going to be Diana by his side, no matter what.

I really liked Camilla’s hat. I imagine she and Charles are already pissed to the wind by this time. I hope everyone is enjoying the reception.

I DEFINITELY noticed some strong chemistry between Edris Alba and George Clooney. Hopefully Edris’ stripper girlfriend/fiancé and Amal won’t mind, if the boys find a VERY private restroom after everyone’s tossed back a few during the reception!!!!

Meghan and Harry had about 1 event every 2 weeks during the engagement. If you look at the Court Circular, their work totals are lower than everybody's, even Kate's while she was pregnant. Hit the ground running my ass. He even skipped the Senebale concert. He and Markle go on getaways either together or separately every two weeks.

Granted, she did get up early for one event. Let's everybody bow down.

Hope they all get something to eat before Op hoovers it.

[quote] He even skipped the Senebale concert.

Yes. That was a shitty thing to do.

Meghan's been at it for three months. Let's see how enthusiastic she is after a few years of ribbon-cutting.

Stella McCartney reception dress

The reception dress is better than that boring wedding dress. The hair is still a mess.

If Andrew remarries Sarah it would be to secure Sarah financially and to beard for him, as the rumors are he likes teen-age girls, just like Epstein OR that he's gay. Pick one.

Everyone knows Anne and her husband have had a marriage in name only since forever but it's civil. And he's said to be a very nice guy.

Of course Harry and Meghan Markle will thrive having known each other less than two years, dating on the sly across two continents while playing games in the media and passive aggressively seeking attention WHILE complaining of attention, and because she has a habit of ghosting people on her way up. She's a gem. He'll be very happy. OTOH, better her married to him than one of the genuinely nice women he dated seriously.

When Meghan starts getting bored Harry better watch out.

She'll be after William.

R422 Too plain.

[quote]He'll be very happy. OTOH, better her married to him than one of the genuinely nice women he dated seriously.

*Genuinely* nice? You don't know a single one of these people, you freak. None of them.

R409 - haha! Kate is as shady as FUCK!

Joan Crawford should play Meghan in a pre code film.

I love her polished yet relaxed look. They look fab. And the car really adds to the glamour.

Let's not forget that dying was the best thing ever to happen to Diana's reputation.

Her legendary star-crossed love with Hasnat Khan: for years it was said he broke it off because he couldn't deal w/a royal spotlight and couldn't defy his family for whom Diana was the wrong ethnicity and religion. However, he gave an interview a few years ago, and while he didn't address the marriage situation, he said she ghosted him. He knew it was happening - suddenly she changed her phone number and he couldn't reach her, she stopped getting in touch - because he'd seen her do it to others. He said this is mild tones - he obviously cared for and respected her, but out of the blue, he was "x"'d out. Next thing he knew she was turning up in the tabloids w/Dodi Fayed.

Right before Diana died she was dating the cocaine-addicted son of a notorious arms-dealer, and staging mise en scenes for the paps. The paps were like white on rice around that yacht, which is when Diana did the "poor lonely me on the yacht diving board" poses. She was completely lost as to her love life and financial situation. She had enough money to live extremely comfortably but not enough money to get her ass out of Kensingtom Palace - which is like high end project housing w/no privacy - and into a suitable private home outside London.

I think Harry got a girl just like dear old mom - a little crazy, a little infatuated with her own celebrity but also a lot of hubris - thinking she's more important than the RF, manipulative and self-dealing. When both boys talked about their mom in their Diana film, I was shocked at what they said. The nicest thing Harry said was about her hugs. But mostly they happily described her as an OTT personality, cheeky, who said to them it's okay to break the rules as long as you don't get caught. I kept waiting for the other side of her to be revealed by them, but that was pretty much it. They obviously adored her and didn't scrutinize too much the impact of what they were saying about her.

Ginge Bond and Messy Galore

Another thing I always found curious was that Diana notoriously hated Tiggy Legge-Bourke, their well-born nanny. Diana spread rumors Tiggy was having an affair with Charles, taunted Tiggy about being pregnant by Charles, and tried and failed to get Tiggy fired. This was after the divorce. At one point young William was so fed up he banned both his parents from attending a school event and invited Tiggy. Tiggy's child was in Will and Kate's wedding party, and she's famously still close to Harry. Has a farm and B&B in England. I always wonder how they reconcile their love for their mom and their love for Tiggy, considering their mom loathed Tiggy. They obviously don't agree. Do they know mom was crazy?

Diana's behavior towards Tiggy makes me think she would have been the mother-in-law from HELL.

Just like Camilla looks quite a lot like Charles' beloved nanny Mabel Anderson, Kate bears a more than passing resemblance to Tiggy. Make of that what you will.

R406, BBC-A didn't mention the Middleton parents at their entrance, either.

So do I R434

It's easy to romanticise her because she died but I think she might have complicated their lives as young men quite a bit if she had lived.

I have a friend from the U.K. who agrees that Diana would have been the mother-in-law from a horror movie.

It's just the photo - Tiggy and Kate don't resemble each other.

Diana would have been horrible because she wanted to be the person her boys loved the most, and because William was her confidente. She had fired another nanny to whom William grew close - how could she have tolerated his love for Kate? OTOH, if anyone could handle it, it would be Kate. She's obviously extremely stoic and very calm, and has a supportive family of her own. She and Carole might have prevailed by killing Diana with kindness. Giving Diana an escape retreat at their home in Buckleberry, and plenty of getaways at Uncle Gary's Mediterranean villa. Hell, if Gary weren't married he and Di could have had a fling. None of the people who interacted with Diana during her life describe anything too awful, although most come through with some diva behavior and they all mention her habit of abruptly dropping people from her life. She did like to manipulate the media and undermine others .

She and Meghan would have been toxic. Two women who want to be the stars of their narrative, two women who love to play victim and pretend they need rescuing while wanting to be in control and basically dominate their relationships, two women who are frequently in cahoots with the paparazzi and sympathetic reporters, and two women who undermine others as Meghan has attempted to undermine Kate with blind items. Two women who are experts at ghosting.

R415, Megs is a beautiful woman because she has had extensive plastic surgery.

Google some of her pre-Hollywood photos.

Wouldn’t surprise me if daddy paid for that, too.

Charles said that Diana was crazy as hell. Not in those words, though. He said in horrifying exasperation "SHE'S MAD!" Indicating he could not live with her. She was a master media manipulator, and she was hell bent on destroying Charles and the monarchy. Those who knew her best described her as a "schemer" even before the marriage. I do believe that there was another fey, conniving, perhaps even treacherous side to her the public just didn't know existed - well, the ones given over to hero worship, that is.

R435 found that photo set by tapping the Google Images search button with his white cane.

Well, I don't know them like you know Meghan, R417. And Kate.

Balderdash, R441. My service Beagle Lord Frippington searched Google Images for me.

R257 I get what she was going for but that's a winter wedding dress . And the material was too inflexible to accommodate sitting so Meghan ended up with that crease across her lower stomach .

Nice car.

Nutmeg doesn't care, her shoulders are bare.

I like Harry and Meghan, but if this were a novel those two would end up splattered all over the road James Dean style.

R438 I fully agree with that . Diana would have had an issue with any woman other than herself in the lives of her sons.

^^^ That car is Charles' 1969 Astin Martin. Wills and Kate drove off in it after their wedding, remember? Must be a tradition. He's kept it mint condition after 50 years.

Diana's speech tapes were released against the wishes of the RF but the entity that had control of them got all sanctimonious and said they were historical, so they were released. I think it's video of her working with a speech coach? But anyway, a lot of the time she's talking about herself and she is appalling. In one 10 minutes stretch, just speaking offhand and casually, she undermined her dad, her sister, Charles, the Queen and her brother, and self-aggrandized to beat the band. I think she pushed Raine, her stepmom, down the steps. Only child that had the courage to do it, apparently. She does this self-dealing thing where the only negative thing she'll say about herself is how she was too young and stupid to know how evil others were and are. So this brave youngest child, who shouldn't have had to take it upon herself, acts out against the stepmother for the good of the entire family and the siblings who are too chicken to be honest about how they feel. Her father scolds her, but she stands up to him.

Diana's sister Jane?? famously dated Prince Charles and also famously said she wasn't in love with him and they wouldn't marry. That ended that. But as Diana pretends, the one time Jane brought Charles over to Althorp while they were dating, she was clinging to Charles' neck, apparently fearful that the innocent but irresistable charms of 15 year old Diana would lure him. So that's a two fer in five minutes for Diana - slams daddy, slams her stepmom, sets herself up as brave even though no child should be in that position, and then slams her sister as insecure and possessive, and fearful of Diana's superior attractions. It was quite a performance. Then there's the bit about not getting any help from the queen.

One of the queen's relatives in an interview went after Diana hammer and tong. This woman is older than dirt. At first says she was very beautiful, etc. but then says OMG, the WORST. The drama! And of all the men - Charles needed support and bolstering more than anyone and she ripped him apart.

Diana needed attention, admiration, support, unconditional love, resilience, etc. and she married a guy who needed a sort of 1950s helpmeet who doesn't exist in real life. What Charles actually needed was a woman like his grandma.

Is there something wrong with George? He seems shy, apprehensive and nervous.

That's a Jaguar E-Type, not an Aston Martin.

Diana would have hated both her daughters-in-law, but I think she would have reserved special ire for Kate, who would one day be Princess of Wales.

As for her second daughter-in-law, it wouldn't have been Meghan: Diana would have shut that relationship down really quickly. Also, a Harry with a mum wouldn't be so emotionally vulnerable.

Diana would have spent any spare time she wasn't scheming to destroy Kate going after Chelsy or Cressida.

Nutmeg has that "hand to the heart" thing going.

The whole Diana/Charles thing was just an unfortunate situation that came about due to antiquated thinking (that Charles needed an aristocratic virgin as a bride.) Camilla or no Camilla Charles and Diana were never going to work. Maybe they would have stayed together in misery for appearances sake but that's it.

They were just completely ill suited to each other. That's no one's fault. They were just very different people and had nothing in common. Charles is lucky to have Camilla. They really are perfect for each other. And it would have been nice if Diana had a chance to find someone to have a lasting love but unfortunately that never had a chance to happen.

The weddings of the two brothers.

[quote] Diana needed attention, admiration, support, unconditional love, resilience, etc. and she married a guy who needed a sort of 1950s helpmeet who doesn't exist in real life. What Charles actually needed was a woman like his grandma.

God, Diana was such a classic borderline. She never would have found romantic happiness: never-ever. And as her beauty faded, she would have gone seriously Sunset Boulevard. Dying dramatically at 36 was the best decision she ever made.

No hairdresser would win any awards for this mess.

[quote]r117 It's an English thing and those stuck up English people are probably having a good laugh behind her back among themselves.

queen Victoria started the whole white wedding dress thing, and historians now know she was an utter whore who’d been f#cked six ways from Sunday by her wedding day...so everyone understands it’s just wishful-thinking-symbolism.

R452, I stand corrected about the car - thank you! - wills and kate did, however, drive off in the aston martin - also blue

[quote]For their intimate evening reception at the Frogmore House near Windsor Castle, the couple drove a silver blue Jaguar E-Type Concept Zero car. The vehicle was originally manufactured in 1968, but has since been converted to electric power. The custom license plate featured the couple’s wedding date: the 19th of May, 2018.

R43, she resembles Harry (and all the Windsors) in that. And they both have ski-slope noses.

She actually looks a little cross-eyed, like a Disney Princess.

Charlotte is just getting started. Her brother is ready to call it a day,

R450. I remember that program you're referring too. I half watched it, being otherwise occupied with my ipad. The thing which made me peek up from it to look at the television screen was her maniacal laugh when I heard it during the program.

For the Brit who is carrying on as if America is the only racist place in the Anglosphere; Stop running your chops and chat to me when Britain allows itself to have a Black Middle Class instead of Black Middle Class people having to "blend in" to "get in". I say that as a Black Brit who KNOWS that there won't be a black Prime Minster in my lifetime, so I don'y even try to "dream the dream". Imagine a racist institution born on the backs of the poor and of colour is giving chest to arrogant Brits in their "America is racist and we're not because we don't shoot negroes in Britain". As if Britain didn't teach Murka every dirty trick it knows.

Speaking of white trash, there’s Anne’s first husband Mark Phillips. Fathered a child while married to Anne, divorced Anne and married someone other than the mother of his illegitimate child. He married an American,, had a daughter with her, then left her for a different American. Fittingly, he now lives in Florida

R459 - are you sure about your facts? Victoria was a slut before she married? Where did you hear this rumor? Her father, mother and uncles carried on but I never heard anything about Victoria's sex life before her marriage to Albert.

I think Edward is the only Windsor child who’s never been divorced.

I am fascinated on the full psychological profiles a bunch some of you have cobbled together based on absolutely nothing regarding Meghan. Are you all frustrated fiction writers? My new favorite is how Diana would have responded to Meghan and it would have been war. This isn't gossip or pointless bitchery, it's madness.

Stinky linky. More about the car...

[quote]Jaguar, having freshly committed to electrifying all of its cars from 2020 onward, has today also unveiled a new all-electric automobile, which is based on its sleek E-type from the 1960s. The new E-type Zero keeps the classic styling, which was once lauded as “the most beautiful car in the world” by Enzo Ferrari, while introducing a bespoke electric powertrain that produces up to 220kW of power. It will take you from 0 to 100 km/h in 5.5 seconds, which isn’t quite Tesla territory in terms of acceleration, but let’s be honest, no Tesla has ever looked quite this dashingly gorgeous.

[quote]The E-type Zero roadster is said to have a real-world range of 270 km (just under 170 miles) thanks to a 40kWh battery that can be fully recharged in six to seven hours. As it stands, this is simply a retrofit of an electric car into the shell of an old school classic, and Jaguar isn’t being terribly explicit about either pricing or availability. It seems to be more than a concept, but not much more than that. Tim Hannig, chief of Jaguar Land Rover Classic, says that the company’s “aim with the E-type Zero is to future-proof classic car ownership. We’re looking forward to the reaction of our clients as we investigate bringing this concept to market.”

The black sermon got on my nerves... why do black Americans always have to show off so much and make everything about them? British blacks and African blacks have so much dignity and composure and then the Americans arrive and it's a narcissistic parade.

R438, have you NEVER ghosted someone? At times, you must. I’ve ghosted people. Even ones I’ve been close to. If someone is fucking me over, or gossips about me, I ghost them. Done. I am not a monster, but I am very loyal, and I expect the same in my friendships and familial relations.

No way Victoria engaged in premarital sex. The assertion is preposterous. Victim of "the Kensington system," she slept in the same bedroom with her mother until she was 18 years old. And only then she was able to move to another bedroom on the day she became Queen, assuming the reigns of power.

It's sad to think that the next big royal wedding will be Prince George"s, and that's how many years away? The Queen and Phillip will both be dead, and possibly Charles and Camilla, Princess Michael, and many of us sadly.

The sermon was about the importance and benefits of LOVE. Forget the man, and at least give credence to the message. LOVE. Jesus' two commands were a) Love the Lord, your God and b)Love one another. Give it a rest already.

Oh please, R473 - I'm sure you were the victim every time you ghosted somebody. This is just so typical of Meghan fans. "Haven't you ever dumped a husband without warning?" "Haven't you ever told nasty rumors about somebody you don't like - are competitive with them or think they have a smug face?" Haven't you ever had sex for money?" This is stuff EVERBODY does.

No, everybody doesn't ghost people who are inconvenient to them. That's immature. If you are mid-friendship, mid thriving relationship with somebody, you don't ghost them. You don't go from bff to ghosting, from lovers to ghosting. If you are growing apart and both of you know it, or if it's completely one sided and somebody is stalking you without any encouragement, then you cut them off, but it's never one day you're my family, the next day I don't know you. Ghosters do that. You don't know what ghosting is. If you have a disagreement with somebody with whom you are friends, you don't ghost them to pay them back, particularly if they apologize. Of if YOU did them wrong, you don't ghost them to avoid explaining yourself or dealing with what you did. THAT is ghosting. But Markle fans take every piece of toxic, dysfunctional, narcissistic behavior on her part and do the "Everybody does it" which is precisely how narcissists think.

Diana was Queen of the Universe. No one will ever surpass her. She was perfectly fine and sane. Charles was a cheater and psychological abuser who thought it was perfectly fine for he and Camilla to drive Diana nuts. They didn't succeed, but they set out to ruin Diana's life and thought nothing of it. Charles and Camilla are despicable.

R456 Why is Harry wearing black like he's a priest at a funeral? Red would have brought out his color so much better.

Jags used to be such sleek and sexy cars but no longer

[quote] No way Victoria engaged in premarital sex. The assertion is preposterous. Victim of "the Kensington system," she slept in the same bedroom with her mother until she was 18 years old. And only then she was able to move to another bedroom on the day she became Queen, assuming the reigns of power.

Not only did Victoria not engage in premarital sex, but one of the requirements for her husband-to-be was virginity. STD's were so rampant among European aristocracy that it was affecting fertility. After the clusterfuck that led to Victoria becoming queen (a serious lack of legit heirs because George III made those weird marriage rules for his children), fertility was a vital requirement for the Queen and Prince Consort. There just weren't that many other legit heirs to pick up the slack, esp. given one of her only eligible cousins was blind and therefore considered unsuitable.

Albert was picked out fairly early on for Victoria, and his family watched him like a hawk to make sure he didn't stray into any random brothels. They didn't care what his older brother did, and Ernest did get an STD, which probably ruined his bride's fertility.

All that said, I've always strongly suspected that Albert was gay. He despised most women and only liked the company of men. Yeah, he knocked up Victoria nine times, but that's because when she was pregnant he was as good as king. A really complicated relationship.

Now some tard will take R478’s post seriously and start ranting back at it.

[qote]Is there something wrong with George? He seems shy, apprehensive and nervous.

"daddy, can i get gay married and still be king"?

The next big royal wedding is Eugenie's this fall. Harry's wedding is certainly no more important than hers - he's sixth in line, she's ninth - same ballpark. He's basically Andrew. He's not William, He's not George.

If George is like his dad and grandad, he will marry in about 25 years. If Charles is as long-lived as his parents, he may just about make it to George's wedding.

Me, I don't think the monarchy itself will exist in 25 years.

R478 is ineptly trolling.

Yes, I think there's a very good chance that in 25 years Prince George will be plain old George Windsor-Mountbatten, and he and his husband can have a lovely private wedding in the Costwolds or something.

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That reception dress is basic. It looks like she is a bridesmaid than a bride. This girl really has no sense of personal style.

So how did James Corden wrangle and invitation? He seems sort of B List compared to the other celebrities.

Diana would still be glamorous at 57. Where would they seat the ex-wife at such a wedding... I wonder?

Of course Victoria was a virgin when she got married. Don't be stupid. And once she did finally get some from Albert, well she wanted it all the time. Either he knew what he was doing or she was easy to please.

Anyway, Albert was really uptight. He NEVER would have touched Victoria if there was even the slightest indication that she wasn't 100% pure. When Albert found out that his oldest son Bertie (Edward VII) lost his virginity to an actress Albert completely overreacted, went to go set his son straight, got sick and died shortly after. Victoria never forgave Bertie and always blamed him for Albert's death. Being shut out by his mother, and stuck with nothing to do as PoW for decades Bertie became a huge man-whore. Edward VII probably was the sluttiest King England ever had. Even tho he was nothing to look at.

[quote] ], only misogynists refer to women as 'females'.

Okay you're just scrounging for issues now. Find something useful to do with your time.

This wedding reminds me of the Swedish weddings. The three kids of the Swedish monarch got married after 2010. Very pretty weddings, church not too big, attendance not too enormous, beautiful clothes, some contemporary music including live vocalist, broadcast on television (not worldwide, but European television covered them) secondary foreign royals like Sophie Wessex given a reason to dress up and represent. Carl Phillip married Sofia Helqvist, a former glamour model (including nudes) and reality show star. But she's gorgeous and he was with her five years before they married, proving her mettle to the public, although some royal fans types still hated her origins. Madeleine had a broken engagement (her fiance and boyfriend of eight years cheated) and fled to NYC, where she met and fell in love with a British banker. They had THEIR big anachronistic royal wedding including carriage ride, then went back to NYC. He declined a title so is not an official part of the Swedish RF. They now live in London and their young daughter is enrolled in a London school. If they don't get their butts back to Sweden to live soon, their kids will lose their royal titles, but I don't think either one cares. Crown Princess Victoria (Carl Phillip was born heir but it shifted to Victoira when the primogeniture rule changed) married her personal trainer. He was a bit more successful than that - owned a series of gyms where he trained. They were together eight years.

So all three married commoners, some quite common commoners (the bank's mom had dated Prince Charles, so he's more of a society guy and not AS common as the other two). Difference is the glamour model and the trainer were with their Swedish royal for YEARs. Everybody thoroughly knew each other from living and traveling together and sharing their every day lives over time. This is not the case with Markle and Harry. But as much as I don't like her, I think he's a big mess and can't think of who would be better for him who wouldn't end up terribly unhappy with him.

It just makes me sad to think that the Queen and Phillip won't be around for George's wedding, and I doubt Charles or Camilla will be either. I remember what a delight the Queen Mum was at Charles and Di's wedding and now she's long gone. Life goes on, I guess.

Doesn't that make you sad?

Someone mentioned the Middletons. Were they invited? James was mentioned in another thread. He looks like a Romanov with that beard in the pic. He’s grown into his looks. When Kate and William married there was a lot of talk about him being gay on DL. Looks like some of you guys were wrong. He fills out those green pants nicely.

[quote]Is there something wrong with George? He seems shy, apprehensive and nervous.

There is nothing weird about a kid being nervous around so many people.

I think as the mother of the groom Diana would probably be seated near Doria. At Will & Kate's wedding, probably in a position similar to the Middletons, and at Harry and MM's, probably similar to Doria's.

I don't know how glamorous Diana would have been. She had the most gorgeous skin as a young woman, but was a huge sun worshipper. She'd get the kind of tan that was mostly red, and, IMO, unattractive. It made her look rough in evening wear, IMO. Her chest was all red, and her face was getting red.

The most important issue to HER at 57 would have been - did she find love, and did she remarry. She would not have liked being there with Charles / Camilla (if there were a Charles / Camilla with her still alive), Will & Kate and their happy little family, Carole and Michael, etc., and her on her own. Maybe she and Doria could have bonded. Why didn't Doria remarry, come to think of it. Good looking woman, and if she has 1/8 her daughter's hustle, she could have done well.

R494 mary! George will be queen!

The problem for poor Edward VII is he was exactly like his mother: vain, frivolous, oversexed, and lacking in real intellectual depth. That's why his intellectual father had such contempt for him. It's too bad their oldest child Vicky wasn't female. She was exactly like Albert, and would have made a much better ruler.

If Philip's stories of Elizabeth sexually exhausting him as newlyweds are true, the Hanovers pass down an active sex drive in addition to big pop eyes (I know technically Elizabeth never was a Hanover, but it's really the same freaking family).

r310, Try reading about how old Windsor Castle is.

When both boys talked about their mom in their Diana film, I was shocked at what they said.

I was kind of surprised too - they described her as a kind of kooky, free wheeling, fun loving auntie rather than an actual mom who loves you, but smacks you when you get mouthy or get bad grades. Granted, all of these kids are raised by the help, but I was surprised too that she was that OTT with her own kids. She really did sound like a total kook and would no doubt be constantly causing a shit storm, so it's probably for the best that she's out of the picture (however harsh that sounds)

R495, all of the Middletons attended.

Diana would have melted down at Harry's wedding and fucked Idris Elba in the coat closet.

R477, I’ve NEVER watched “Suits”, nor am I a Meghan Markle stan. Honestly, I couldn’t care less. I do have a soft spot for Harry, being that his mum died while he was so young, but I do not know these people, and as an American, am not as into it as others across the pond might be. But I do love weddings. I love the entire thing, and I always look forward to seeing what the bride wears. That was genuinely my big interest here, just like it was when I was still a child, and my mother woke me up to watch Diana marry Charles. I was dying to see the dress, even then!!!

How do we know Meghan ghosted people? There’s lots of bullshit floating around about her. And let’s be frank. No way could she have kept her father and somenof her criminal and tacky relatives in her life. They have been self dealing as they come, and I loyal family members. Who would keep them around? Oh please, give me a break! No one would!

I don’t see anything wrong with her wanting a better life for herself. If she is a loyal wife, a hard worker, and a good, decent, loving mother to her future children, then why did she not deserve to marry Harry??? Maybe he’s the one getting the great deal here, because I imagine that this family must be a pain in the ass to be a part of.

Give the girl a chance, and let’s see what happens.

Diana WAS TOO YOUNG to marry an old, fussy man like Charles. It is true. 19 year olds should not become wives. She needed another 8-10 years to become ready for a normal, regular marriage. I cannot imagine becoming the wife of the future King of England, at 19 years of age!

Overall, at least the parts I saw, it was really a fun wedding to watch. The American preacher did go on, I was enjoying him until he went off on his fire and science rant and turned it off at that point. I can see more of it tonight. Loved Markle's dress, tiara, and veil, and many of the guests' outfits but many of them also looked ridiculous. It's cool there is now a biracial American in the royal family. My hope is that she and Harry will continue to be activists and forces for good in the world. It was hard not to look at Prince William's face and see Diana's features there. Meghan's mother looked beautiful, very dignified and I liked her outfit and hat. What a proud day for her.

From this picture and the one above, it looks like James Middleton is packing some heat.

Why, because he's got a little nubbin showing in some tight jeans? You call that "packing heat". Looks pretty lukewarm to me.

r449, It's ONLY a CLASSIC profile of a JAGUAR X-KE!

Holy shit, Kate's brother is hot. Pippa really is the plain one in that crew.

this girl doesn't have a sense of personal style, she has Jessica Mulroney's style. Check out Mulroney's instagram and you'll see her wearing every look Meghan Markle wore during the engagement. She is Ben Mulroney's wife, as self-promoting as Meghan. When she married she had average boobs and thin lips. Now she has a big rack and trout lips. Her style is the WORST. For all the fit issues and it maybe being more of a winter dress than a spring dress, I think the wedding dress is the best thing Meghan has worn and maybe she will move away from Mulroney's influence after the wedding.

I'm interested to know what they'll pretend the dress cost. It and the veil were beautiful, but the dress material, while also beautiful, was plain and stiff, not the stuff of weeks and weeks of lace makers and seamstresses running up the cost of the thing with every stitch.

Camilla kept whispering comments to Kate under her hat and Kate was having a very hard time controlling herself. For a good while she wouldn't look up, just kept staring at the floor. Most evident when they were shown during Bishop's speech and Stand By Me. Camilla the sarcastic observer. I bet she was funny though. Charles mostly ignored them.

Now that Meghan's royal, she'll have the royal family's style. Jessica Mulroney is going to be out in the cold.

It is thought that Meghan dropped blind items that Camilla and Kate didn't get along. Possibly because they DO get along. She's poisonous like that. Maybe Camilla whispering to Kate under her hat, knowing the cameras were on her, was her pushback.

R499 True, Bertie lacked the same intelligence that his father and older sister possessed but he was a good king. He was extremely outgoing and personable and a lot of fun. Most importantly he understood the importance of pomp and ceremony. He knew how important it was for the monarchy to be seen and to give the people all of this stuff we associate with the monarchy.

There was a lot of republican sentiment because Victoria secluded herself for so long after Albert died. She took her mourning to an unnatural extreme and neglected her public role. After having an absent monarch for so long having a king like Edward VII was exactly what was needed and he was very much beloved.

Besides, Vicky was the mother of Kaiser Wilhelm. Who the hell knows how that all would have worked out.

r497: "Why didn't Doria remarry, come to think of it. Good looking woman, and if she has 1/8 her daughter's hustle, she could have done well."

Once burned, twice smarter.

Nice bromide, but Doria's been divorced for 30 years. Not one decent prospect presented himself or herself in that time? A divorce often teaches someone enough about themselves for them to do better the next time.

[quote]Doesn't that make you sad?

MARY!

Yes dear, everyone dies. Lucky are the ones that were able to grow old like Elizabeth and Phillip. Diana of course never got that chance.

r516, I'll try again: Maybe Doria didn't WANT to live with another man! Shocking, I know!

Doria had horrible taste in men maybe she likes fish now?

Maybe she likes solitude. People are PITA.

You nasty, fat, cunts down in your shitty basements in flyover country don't know shit about fashion or style. I want someone with true fashion cred to weigh in on MM wedding dress. And sorry, working at H&M or the local GAP/Banana store doesn't count. What a bunch of fat fucks!

R491, you probably know this already, but just in case: What's interesting is that Edward VII's main side piece, Alice Keppel, was Camilla's great-great grandmother. History repeated itself.

r513 lol okay. I don't think Meghan would have had time to do 3/4 of the Machiavellian crap you guys claim she's done.

That's enough internet for you today r521. Go take a walk outside dear.

You're right, R514, Bertie wasn't a bad guy at all, and he might have cavorted with far fewer whores if his mother had let him do more legitimate work. Victoria was kind of a monster: She didn't really want to be ruler after Albert died, but she wouldn't let her son do it, either. And given it was the 19th Century, I can't imagine people would have minded too much if a grieving widow abdicated in favor of her adult son.

The tragedy of Princess Vicky is that she couldn't convince her husband to accept his father's abdication when the old man first wanted to do it. Instead the old bastard held on and held on, and her husband ruled only three months. This allowed the Bismarck contingent to get its claws into Young Wilhelm, and it all went south from there. If Albert had still been alive (he only missed the crisis by a year or so) and able to support his daughter's arguments, the abdication might have happened and German history, thus world history, would have been quite different.

r521 you sound like you may have forgotten to take the anti-psychotics today. I suggest locking yourself in the fuss closet and turning off the light for 2, maybe 3 days.

[quote]Doria had horrible taste in men maybe she likes fish now?

OMG! Now Doria's gay?

Harry, William, Charles, in fact, all MALE members of the Royal family are gay on DL.

Now Doria.

If everyone admits the 1968 jaguar looks good, why don't they make good looking cars anymore? They all look the same and ugly.

Diana said sex with Charles was "odd."

[quote]in fact, all MALES are gay on DL.

Fixed that for you r527.

r521, But many of us have eyes to see with.

How would Diana know? I thought she was a virgin?

Unless she was saying this post James Hewitt who I bet was tremendous.

Oh shut up R513. You know nothing.

Anybody who grew up attending church with a big family knows that and hilarious quips are often whispered between family members along the pew. At lease that was how it was, and still is, with my family. I'll bet Camilla was riffing a few good ones throughout the service, and Catherine was probably struggling to contain her laughter.

So maybe by driving off in the 1968 Jaguar, we are going back in time to the the 60s of Twiggy, Beatles, and colourful fashion

Having had time for the event to sink in, here is how I feel. I was expecting an absolute clusterfuck, so I feel happy to be proved wrong. The bride was beautiful, and her gown was simple and tasteful. The groom was handsome and regal looking in his uniform. The bride's mother was really lovely. I was very happy to see Prince Philip walking in on his own. And also happy to see Sarah Ferguson, really looking lovely. It's a testament to Harry's character that he insisted on inviting her. I loved it when Charles walked Meghan down the aisle, and even more, loved it when he took Doria's hand and walked with her back down the aisle on the way out. I loved the photos of the crowds outside, with people of every color all decked out in their red, white and blue, and all proud of their country.

What could be more beautiful than a sunny May morning in England? You Brits really did a great job: you should be proud.

ditto, well said

I think Philip is just holding on for the weddings of his grandchildren. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we lose him shortly after Eugenie's wedding.

Supposedly Beatrice is his favorite, but she waited too long, I think.

Camilla is trash and probably racist as fuck.

Yay, 1968!

Louise is Philip's favorite. Sadly he won't be around for her wedding.

r539 let's discuss it over some skeet shooting.

R536, well said. I can’t find much fault with any of it, or anyone.

So when should we expect a royal pregnancy announcement? Six months? A year? I’m wagering that they’ll do IVF, and pop out twins straight out the gate. That’s what I would do. She might as well get it out of the way immediately, and have two at once.

*Kate's eyes narrow when she reads about Meghan's pregnancy*

What r536 said

I was gonna make a joke about Louise getting married before Bea even tho Louise is only like 14 but I have a feeling Bea will eagerly marry whoever will have her and she can manage to find some poor schlep within the next year or two but it won't work out for very long because he'll be another user.

When did Mike Tindall get his nose fixed? I wonder why he finally gave in after holding out for so long.

I didn't watch live, but I enjoyed watching the videos. I thought Harry was going to faint. Not because he realized he'd made a "mistake", but I think he's extremely happy. I loved the photos of the attendees trying to stifle their giggles at the preacher. This wedding had actual emotions.

I'm not so sure Harry will cheat; he seems to have grown up a lot over the past few years.

Kate will get pregnant again before Meghan does.

R548 He recently got his nose fixed probably because he'd actually like to breathe.

[quote]Meghan's gown was ok but nothing spectacular. It didn't "wow" me. It just lacked that extra final touch.

I agree. I actually like the dress itself, but a dress that plain and simple needs a woman with impeccable posture and long lines to accentuate it. And Meghan is just average. I think the same dress on a super model would look stunning, but on Meghan it comes off looking bland and utterly forgettable. But had they added something a little extra to it, it might have struck that elusive balance of elegant simplicity, rather than simple and boring.

Meghan's mother looked lovely though.

I'm not surprised Philip's favorite is Louise, as she looks like Anne all over again.

R518 - most people like companionship. She's also struggled financially - both of MM's parents filed for bankruptcy

Oh my GOD of course Harry will cheat. He was dating another woman while dating Markle and who knows how many randoms he hit on/hooked up.

He SEEMS to have grown up because BP went on a massive public relations rehab mission after his earlier fuck-ups. Kate and William played a huge part, toting Harry along everywhere they went like he was their eager beaver, charming scamp little first born. But he is still the same Harry. Still uses the Invictus games to divert attention from the athletes and onto free publicity for himself and his girlfriend. Still played games with the media and allowed Markle to work her social media to hint about her and Harry - AND appear on the cover of fucking Vanity Fair - then turn around and whine and complain about press coverage. Still entitled, still spoiled, still immature.

[quote] Anybody who grew up attending church with a big family knows that and hilarious quips are often whispered between family members along the pew.

Yeah but that’s duribg funerals.

Ah yes, the strange traditions of the Irish duribg funerals.

I didn’t realize Meghan’s family was such a mess until I caught up on some internet gossip today.

Even better! I applaud Harry for marrying a girl from such humble beginnings. She’s a lovely girl, and will age better than the rest if she stays away from booze and cigarettes, and excessive sunbathing.

She is gorgeous, and she seems to really love him, and that’s what truly matters. He picked well, and I wish them the best.

She’s 36 - if they’re gonna have kids, they better get to it quickly

Will's kids are fug. That's gotta suck. To look at a group of children and realize yours are the homeliest.

I understand the whole wanting to be wealthy beyond your wildest dreams thing, but jesus I'd rather jump into a volcano than have to get all dressed up to do public appearances every day and all the weird rituals and the being surrounded by body guards forever thing. There'd be no goddamn escape. Mostly I just wouldn't want to have to dress up every day. Like what's the point of being stupidly rich, if you can't outsource all the things you hate to do to other people?

[quote]If everyone admits the 1968 jaguar looks good, why don't they make good looking cars anymore? They all look the same and ugly.

Even in the 70s, the replacement looked like shit in comparison.

[quote]She’s 36 - if they’re gonna have kids, they better get to it quickly

STARTING TONIGHT!

She'll definitely want to get pregnant soon, why wait.

Yeah, the ugliness started in the 70s. Now everything is ugly, inside and out.

Thank goodness they are going to bring us back to the 60s. Mid-sixties, hopefully.

[quote]Oh my GOD of course Harry will cheat. He was dating another woman while dating Markle and who knows how many randoms he hit on/hooked up.

You're just jealous, so you don't want them to be happy.

[quote]Thank goodness they are going to bring us back to the 60s. Mid-sixties, hopefully.

They sort of do bring back the old styles - but they have a habit of stripping them of all the things that originally made them attractive.

Yeah, it's like they don't really get it

Why are wheels so fucking big on cars these days?

R564, I agree with you. This poster has nothing but nasty things to say about these two.

People who are morally decent, happy human beings, don’t cheat. They either agree to open marriage protocols (whatever those might be for a couple), or they divorce, and move on, or they remain faithful.

We don’t know these people, and have no idea what the future holds.

Let’s remember, none of us ever dreamed that Diana would die so young, and in such an awful way. I’m obviously not wishing anyone death, but I am saying that life is unpredictable.

Why predict negative, shitty stuff for Two newlyweds? That’s very unkind, and very odd, as well.

They could agree to have an open marriage. Don't they all cheat?

Fergie looked great, way hotter than her daughters lol

That exit from the reception was all late 1960's. Even her dress - with the slight halter top and flair at the bottom- could be worn in 1966. It was like a scene from a 1966 James Bond movie. All three, Meghan, Harry in the tux and the 1966 Jaguar, looked gorgeous.

They just needed a Burt Bacharach soundtrack

Here ya go

[quote]Fergie looked great, way hotter than her daughters lol

Oh, God - the Fergie fans are back!

and..

"People who are morally decent, happy human beings, don’t cheat."

You do realize that Meghan was living with Cory when she started dating Harry, right? (You get busted when you live your whole life on social media) And she probably cheated on Trevor with a hockey player based on Trevor's reaction to being asked about the guy.

Watching them on the steps, gotta say - Prince Phillip looks genuinely pleased. He was smiling brightly. I keep hearing on British press how much he and Queen Elizabeth like her. The whole thing has been really fun to watch. I'm an old silly romantic I guess.

And to the person upthread who said Amal Clooney's dress would have been more appropriate at the Kentucky Derby, my 80+ year old mum completely agreed with you (we were chatting on the phone this morning). Totally over the top for a royal wedding. Mum called it too much "look at ME".

Spectacular!

Can one imagine, being from such a humble background, awaking one day in Windsor Castle, marrying a royal prince, and then driving off into the sunset in a vintage Jag, with your love, while attired in an exquisite Stella McCartney gown?

If it were my wedding, I would have asked the prince to drive even more slowly through Windsor Castle's courtyard, allowing me to take in (memorize) such beauty and all it means.

" . . . to be in England, in the springtime, with my love, close to the edge . . . "

Someone upthread said that Markle wasn't wearing jewelry - she actually has a whole new Cartier set. She wore the new bracelet at the church, earrings for the evening party tonight. During the church ceremony, she paired a different smaller Cartier pair with the tiara. Tonight she was also wearing a large aquamarine ring formerly belonging to Diana (apparently now hers.) The theory is that Charles gave her the new Cartier set, and Harry gave her Diana's aquamarine ring.

no matter how this marriage ends up they were two very very happy people today and it was a complete relief to see this rather than hear about Trump all day. I truly hopes this works out for them.

The Brits know how to do pageantry right and I give them 10 stars for it. It is always worth watching these things for the pageantry.

The most impressive thing was Gail saying how respectful and kind the police are over there. Makes me sad that ours just think they are superior to all the rest of us and can do whatever the hell they want..

I lost the top half of my post.

Oprah had her dress with her and thought it was cream but when she looked at it thought it might be too white. She texted a picture to Gail who told her she absolutely could not wear it so she had to have a dress made Yesterday.

Prince George's coat matched his father's and uncle's. Their coats are the coat of some new appointment that Harry just got. I think they said head of the marines or something. I guess William is already a part of that group.

jags did make something of a comeback in the early 2000's with some beautiful models.

now they might as well be taruses

Victoria Beckham looked like she was going to a funeral while hre husband looked so damn sexy. The woman never smiles.

Eugenie was dressed like an airline stewardess from the 60’s and Beatrice looked like she was going to a garden party held at night. I am disappoint.

i thought Kate looked great. She isn't as thin as she usually is. she looks better with a little weight on her. I know she just gave birth.

r551 is right on when he or she wrote "But had they added something a little extra to it, it might have struck that elusive balance of elegant simplicity, rather than simple and boring."

What it needed doesn't elude me - Color, say a subtle copper/bronze, aqua or even a bright true yellow is what Meghan's gown needed to give it that oomph that it lacked.

She's a 2nd time bride. She could have gotten away with that.

As for the preacher, one British commentator had me giggling, when he was asked what he thought the Queen was thinking during his harangue and he said he was sure she'd like to turn to the Duke and say, "This is a bit different, isn't it?" The understatement of that cracked me up.

i don't like the sports car. Doesn't Prince Harry have anything of his own??? He is rich enough...why everything is his dad's

Sad -

When Prince Charles joined Sparkle at the entrance to the church's sanctuary, to walk her down the aisle, she immediately dipped her head. The Prince did the same, almost in unison.

Contrition / Embarrassment for her lack of support for such occasion.

**Once she'd reached Prince Harry at the altar to exchange their wedding rings, neither Charles, nor Camilla, nor Kate were engaged in the moment.

Poor Sparkle -

David beckham looks happy to be there but his wife acts like she's being led to the slaughter....she looks so miserable.

I read that she eats and spits out food, she taste the food but doesn't swallow. Just what I heard.

camilla must have that same dress in every color. seems like she's always wearing the same style...she looks good, I suppose that's why she keeps wearing it.

R72, Kitty Spencer looks great, but who in the depths of Hades is that beside her? The hair is hideous. Everything about her is off and strange. I cannot believe she's a guest!

R591, it is the token trans they invited to give the appearance of diversity and inclusion.

i am looking at some picture and i cannot believe some spectators along the street are actually crying!!!! c'mon!

I thought the same, R592!

They are lonely, R593. There are crying threads regularly on DL.

There needs to be more snark. Everyone is feeling warm and fuzzy but this has Poseidon Adventure written all over it.

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I thought it was lovely that Harry said, "Thanks, Pa" after Charles brought Meghan to the front of the church.

How long until the Americans routinely refer to the Duchess as "Princess Meghan"?

No, the Poseidon Adventure is 70s.

Think 1967-68

R17 What's the big deal about going bald? The brother is a fine strapping man, with a nice smile, in love with his wife and he adores his kids. A great catch for anyone. Would that you would be so fortunate to nab someone like him. If he had a toy poodle and a man purse would that make a difference to you? Talk about SHALLOW.

R583 ,i think she found out she and hubby are sitting at the back. lol.

Meanwhile, Orpah, Clooney, and Serena are amongst those in front. Orpah and Serena , I think are close friends of Meghan. But anybody know why the Clooneys are in front or even invited?

The Clooneys were there to represent Hollywood, Globalism, fake marriages and bullshit.

Honestly, it was hilarious to see "Hollywood Royalty" grovelling to get an invite and then try to make big splashy impressions. They were out of their league today.