Duchess of York has been SNUBBED

The Duchess will get her own revenge soon enough. Princess Andrew no longer requires by law the monarch's permission to wed since with the birth of Prince Louis he is no longer among the top six in line for the throne after the queen, so he can marry whomever he likes now. He will probably wait until his father dies so as not to spite him, but he will almost certainly re-marry Fergie when his father soon dies. Then Charles will HAVE to invite her to royal events, since she will be his brother's wife.

Wildebeast

I don't understand ... I'm fun at a party!

If you let me come, I'll show me knickers!

In The Windsors series they show Fergie hiding ahead of time in houses of parties she isn't invited to. She will find a way.

[quote]The Duchess will get her own revenge soon enough. Princess Andrew no longer requires by law the monarch's permission to wed since with the birth of Prince Louis he is no longer among the top six in line for the throne after the queen, so he can marry whomever he likes now. He will probably wait until his father dies so as not to spite him, but he will almost certainly re-marry Fergie when his father soon dies. Then Charles will HAVE to invite her to royal events, since she will be his brother's wife.

1. His mother still controls the purse strings. Yes, he can do what ever he wants. She doesn't have to keep supporting him, leave him a damned penny or have to intercede with the press to clean up all his various scandals he gets himself into

2. Charles doesn't have to do a damned thing when he is King. Make no mistake about it, Charles doesn't even have to invite Andrew anywhere much less his ex or soon to be wife. He's been waiting about 50 yrs to become King. He'll do whatever he wants when that happens. He's already started doing it now

William supposedly can't stand her either, which is why she was not invited to his wedding in 2011. Harry, who knows what it's like the be the Windsor family's black sheep, is more forgiving.

r6 If the Queen goes, there's a good chance the monarchy goes with her. She won't be around to protect either of them when the filth hits the fan re: their sexual proclivities.

If the dominoes start to fall, and she can't protect them, they will go down.

[quote] 1. His mother still controls the purse strings. Yes, he can do what ever he wants. She doesn't have to keep supporting him, leave him a damned penny or have to intercede with the press to clean up all his various scandals he gets himself into

She doesn't have to, but she will. Andrew is her favorite child, and she doesn't mind Fergie that much (if at all)

[quote] 2. Charles doesn't have to do a damned thing when he is King. Make no mistake about it, Charles doesn't even have to invite Andrew anywhere much less his ex or soon to be wife.

I'll believe [bold]that[/bold] when I see it. Charles often becomes frightened he gets bad press--we've seen it many times before. If he cuts his brother's wife regularly, it will look bad in the press.

[quote] [R6] If the Queen goes, there's a good chance the monarchy goes with her. She won't be around to protect either of them when the filth hits the fan re: their sexual proclivities.If the dominoes start to fall, and she can't protect them, they will go down.

And I'll believe all that when I see it too.

The monarchy would not go down even without William and Kate, and with them in the wings, it's pretty bulletproof. They are extremely popular.

I met Fergie once, at a dinner in New York. She introduced herself as Sarah. She was sort of great. The hostess, a major New York heiress mentioned it must be difficult finding the image of your Mother in Law on every bit of currency in your purse. She laughed and said "Don't I know it."

Judas priest she's so Haggard looking!

Why are people so sure Andrew and Fergie will get remarried?

The Queen likes her, so I doubt she would mind if they were to re-marry after Phillip dies. Charles is an old fuddy-duddy with a stick up his ass, who refuses to accept that he did more to damage the Monarchy than anyone, including Fergie. Thankfully, I doubt his reign will last long anyway, he is already 69 and looks as old as his 96 year old father. He wants to streamline the monarchy and cut his brothers(he can't touch Anne, who is Princess Royal and will remain so until she dies) and neices out, which many people think is a good thing, but I think that will change, when the royals have to start declining appearances because there won't be enough of them to handle the workload.

Sarah needs to stay out of the sun.

I met Sarah. She was goofy. Her bodyguards were gorgeous, though.

She is grotesque. Ancient DL f@gs are so mean about Diana and Markle but must see themselves more clearly in Sarah. It's always the homely saggy wrinkled ones who are the biggest whores and most proud of it. I guess that resonates with a lot of the secret snob posters here. She is not royalty and what is royalty anyway? It's almost a joke. Sarah Ferguson is fun and "down to earth" until you realize that she expects to be treated like royalty. Diana planted good men from boyseeds. Sarah can be tolerated but you can't unsee her. Royals have eyes too.

R13 that way they won't ever have to testify against each other.

[quote]I think that will change, when the royals have to start declining appearances because there won't be enough of them to handle the workload.

That's the truth of it. Look for Princess Anne and the Wessexes to continue with public roles. Andrew will give the appearance of doing something from time to time but no one will care, inside or out.

Actually, Fergie and Andrew marrying again would be good for Meagain Debacle. Fergie could resume her role as the media's necessary evil.

I had no idea about Andrew and Fergie. Are the involved?

r10 that situation is ripe for a Black Swan. It's connected to so many things like American politics; one distant domino falls and it could set off the entire display.

The Queen has (allegedly of course) been able to rein Andrew in, but not change his habits entirely.

Aging Fergie is starting to remind me of Bea Smith, top dog inmate on Prisoner Cell Block H back in the day.

[quote] [R10] that situation is ripe for a Black Swan. It's connected to so many things like American politics; one distant domino falls and it could set off the entire display.

Yas, honey.

I thought Andrew still lived in same house as Fergie?

^ Other way around. Andrew's got the money. All Fergie's got is a face that consistently lacks a good side.

[quote]he can't touch Anne, who is Princess Royal and will remain so until she dies)

Does the title Princess Royal confer more benefits (besides higher status) on the bearer than a "regular" princess? I know it's only given to the monarch's eldest daughter. Was it more than a consolation prize for being knocked out of the order of succession by younger male relatives?

Nope. It's just a title that can be given to the eldest daughter of the sovereign.

[quote] Does the title Princess Royal confer more benefits (besides higher status) on the bearer than a "regular" princess?

The receiver gets a complete set of luggage from Samsonite, plus the LATEST in ladies's watchbands from Speidel.

Apparently his first cousins with whom he grew up were not even invited to the wedding. But celebs and hundreds of unknown members of the public were.

[quote] Apparently his first cousins with whom he grew up were not even invited to the wedding.

Which ones? Beatrice and Eugenie were invited. So were Peter and Zara.

Several years ago VF wrote article that Andrew does not want to ever be romantically involved with her. However her behavior affects the two daughters that Charles wants to pare from The Firm. Therfore, due to her money problems it is easier to let her live in the house and he has some control of her. He has had to bail her out financially. She is far too old for him.

R30, Freddy Windsor, Amelia and kitty Windsor, Prince and Princess Michael of Kent.

That makes a lot of sense. She's pretty hopeless. She's like a puppy.

Every single one of Harry's first cousins was invited to the wedding--all 19 of them. They are:

Peter Phillips

Zara Tindall

Princess Beatrice of York

Princess Eugenie of York

Lady Louise Windsor

James, the Viscount Severn

Emily McCorquodale

George McCorquodale

Celia McCorquodale

The Hon. Laura Fellowes

The Hon. Alexander Fellowes

The Hon. Eleanor Fellowes

Lady Kitty Spencer

Lady Eliza Spencer

Lady Amelia Spencer

Louis, Viscount Althorp

The Hon. Edmund Spencer

Lady Lara Spencer

Lady Charlotte Spencer

It was his more distant cousins who were not all invited.

[quote] Freddy Windsor, Amelia and kitty Windsor, Prince and Princess Michael of Kent.

None of those are his first cousins.

[quote]Diana planted good men from boyseeds.

Yikes.

Louis, Viscount Althorp is rather hot!

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That hair dye is awful.

You forgot the Ship 'n Shore ensembles, r28.....

Did Fergie sit in the seats reserved for royalty? Or outside on the lawn?

The hair dye is awful, but she does look good when she wears it up like that. She should do that all the time she's in public--she's much too old now for the loose look she has favored her whole life.

Not sure what it is about Fergie, yeah she's a mess but for some reason I find her likable.

Yes, she lives with Andy, or more precisely in one of his homes where he also resides at least part time. Who knows for sure what their relationship exactly is. He must maintain some fondness for her to keep her around. I doubt he's just doing so in order to keep control of her or because he feels sorry for her. He could set up a separate residence with strings attached if he wanted to.

Despite everything she's done it's been said that she really is a lot of fun. And apparently even the queen invites her along when her daughters visit (when Philip isn't around...) Philip apparently can't stand her and up until today it was said he wouldn't even be in the same room with her.

The rumor that she and Andy would remarry after Philip dies has been out there for a while. It would be kinda sweet if they did. And despite everything I think it's nice that she and Andy managed to get along so well and raised their daughters together. A lot of couples can't manage that and I am sure their daughters appreciate it.

For all of the talk of Charles downsizing the monarchy and cutting the York girls out, Eugenie just took on her own charity and Bea is co-hosting a tea party with Will and Edward. They also attended some commonwealth events for the first time. So it might actually end up going the other way. We'll see.

They aren't on the civil list or anything so I don't see what the problem is to have them do some royal work or events. Especially since Philip is retired and as the queen and her cousins start to really slow down they really will need the younger generation to pick up some of the slack.

Anne's kids aren't royal and Anne can't do it all on her own. Edward's kids are still too young. So it makes sense to give the Yorks something to do. A sense of purpose would probably be good for them. Especially Bea.

The other thing Charlie may have to reckon with as King is how his boys feel about his plans. Just as he has a vision, so does William and probably Harry. But there's very little percentage in the York girls. There's no public affection for them. They're seen as useless freeloaders and they're kind of funny looking. Eugenie will probably fade into married obscurity and I really don't know what becomes of Beatrice... she's next to useless.

She doesn't still retain her title, does she?

Harry is supposedly close to his York cousins but I don't think Will is especially close to them. I think Will is closer to Anne's kids. Who knows, as they get older and if they are actually given some sort of role they might do well. It's what their father always wanted for them anyway.

It's years away but it will be interesting to see what Will does with them. It will be interesting to see how the monarchy evolves.

R46 she lost her HRH in the divorce and she is no longer "Her Royal Highness The Duchess of York". She is simply "Sarah, Duchess of York"

Where was Princess Eugenie's fiancé today?

Remember the time Fergie and Andrew had a Royal Family game show?

The Windsors were supposedly mortified over this.

Queen For a Day I could understand r50, but.....

This article provides some much needed rain on this parade:

R49 He was there. I don't think I saw him walk in with them for some reason but I saw him sitting next to Eugenie in the church.

R50 Actually, that was all Prince Edward's doing, he just roped the rest of them into it.

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R17 collectively Diana is revered on DL.

Sarah looked fabulous. She was the best dressed at Harry's wedding. Who knew, but she looked great. I've always liked Sarah. Yeah, she had some challenges along the way, but she has always maintained an outgoing and friendly personality. And Sarah and Diana dragged the royal family kicking and screaming into the modern era. They royal family ought to thank them. I hope Sarah gets to attend the evening reception. She should be there.

Charles is a schmuck and a piece of shit.

[quote] Ancient DL f@gs are so mean about Diana and Markle but must see themselves more clearly in Sarah.

I'm sure to you that probably means anyone here over the age of 35.

[quote]Where was Princess Eugenie's fiancé today?

R49. Eugenie's fiance, Jack Brooksbank, greeted his future mother-in-law, Sarah, upon her arrival at the church today. Sarah and Jack sat together since it was only the official royals up front. But Sarah will be front and center when Eugenie gets married and the other royals with sticks up their arses will have to be polite and gracious to her. I hope Sarah and Andrew remarry. Enough with grudge holder Philip and cheating, piece of shit Charles with their uppity attitude. If anyone brought shame to the royal family, it was Charles. He ought to die before he has a chance to become king.

[quote]If anyone brought shame to the royal family, it was Charles.

Do you mean it wasn't all of them?

Jack sat next to Eugenie. He did indeed greet Sarah outside the church. I don't think he walked to the church with Eugenie but he did join her once inside.

Prayers that the Queen outlives Charles.

Why was Camilla allowed to be there?

[quote] She is apparently really upset and freaking out about it to everyone she knows.

Oh please, she’s grateful for any crumb they throw her.

I crack up at the bad fiction writing about the royals (and ex-royals).

He was the guy in the eye glasses trying to wrangle Fergie to her seat when she entered the quire and proceeded to bug her eyes and gawp her mouth at every minor royal, poshie and aristo who wouldn't give her the steam off their piss except good manners required it. He was seated next to the Eugenie of Pork during the service.

Charles was worried she'd flash her freckly bangers.

Sarah should have been seated with her family. Jack Brooksbank sat with Eugenie even though they're not married yet. Sarah should have been seated with her daughters. She's their mother. Besides, she lives with Andrew. Enough of this royal family nonsense holding a grudge (specifically Philip and Charles, who is a piece of shit and brought shame to the family on his own). Get over it, Sarah is part of the family for all practical purposes.

[quote] They aren't on the civil list or anything so I don't see what the problem is to have them do some royal work or events

They are okay, but the thing about them is that they are a package deal with their mother. Many (too many) times, where ever they go, fergie goes. Fergie's a fuck up. She can't help it. Even at the wedding today she almost screwed up. She started making overenthusiastic (STUPID) faces at people who were saying things to her in the crowd. She got over enthusiastic and opened her mouth in a big O shape. Luckily she caught herself and stopped any further ridiculousness. But you just know she really wanted to stand out there and interact with the public,make silly faces and as usual make a fool of herself

And she wasn't invited to any of the other festivities because she can't handle her liquor. She'd get drunk and make a fool of herself. She'd try to ingratiate herself with rich/powerful people, make stupid faces and dance like a fool. She'd have to be dragged out of there (this happens at a lot of places she goes)

Her daughter has a wedding coming up. Fergie's already made an obnoxious fool out of herself when her daughter announced her engagement. The smartest thing for Fuck Up Fergie to do is lay low until the wedding. I have a feeling she will do something stupid before her daughter's wedding.

Charles should have been as he wished...a tampon inside Camilla tied up in the stable where they belong.

Supposedly the kids have a good relationship w/ Camilla. It is hard to imagine they're all sunshine and roses from what has gone on with them in the media since Diana's death (and before - "there were 3 of us in this marriage").

Why did William hate Fergie?

Camilla the tampon is tolerated. Once Charles dies, they have her executed.

Shame on Charles & his Nazi father Philip for treating Fergie so poorly!

I watched the extended sequence of Fergie teetering to the Chapel and trapping Jack in an overly familiar and overlong bear hug. I was sure she was drunk or otherwise high.

So sad to have missed Fergie's slobberings. I watched on PBS which was supposed to have a BBC feed, yet much of the Royal family's entrance was not covered, and certainly not Fergie's own grand encounter.

She was not drunk or high, she was happy to see a welcoming face. Charles and Philips people have been very cruel to her.

Watch it again. She couldn't walk a straight line.

So, Fergie was invited to Harry and Meg's wedding, but she could not sit with Andrew and their daughters?

[quote] Why was Camilla allowed to be there?

Because she's the wife to the heir to the throne, and the closest thing the groom has had to a mother for the last 20 years?

Just a guess.

[quote] So, Fergie was invited to Harry and Meg's wedding, but she could not sit with Andrew and their daughters?

She's not royal, but they are.

And neither of those two bitchy daughters could skip the party and stay with their mother?

Why would they need to stay with their mother? They are all adults. I'm sure Fergie managed just fine and these stories are probably exaggerated. I am sure she's pretty much used to the deal by now and probably happy to just be included at all rather than upset she didn't make the cut for the reception.

Why would anyone feel sorry for Sarah and her daughters? It is time to get REAL JOBS. They're third tier royals at best.

Shocked that Donald or Ivanka Trump were not there.

Melanie had a kidney condition so, well, you know...

[quote]And Sarah and Diana dragged the royal family kicking and screaming into the modern era.

What rubbish. We're hearing the same drivel today about Meggie. None of them have changed anything.

R79, Numerous non-royals were seated in that choir section.

Charles and Camilla will be the end of the monarchy. Let's hope the Queen outlives Charles.

Did someone say I deserve my own thread???

Fergie's not been invited to the reception, either.

Was Fergie in the church? Where did she sit?

Why are they snubbing her? Is it because of the divorce? That money scandal , or something else?

It looks in that photo as if she's suddenly been aged thirty years.

She was filmed, drunk, trying to sell access to her ex-husband. She’s trash. She was lucky to be invited to anything.

[quote]Fergie's not been invited to the reception, either.

There were two receptions. The first one held in the Castle after the carriage drive for the hoi polloi, er, the 600 guests at the ceremony, and the exclusive one, a sit down evening dinner for 200 hosted by Prince Charles at Frogmore House. Fergie was invited to the former but not the latter.

Fergie will never be invited to events Charles hosts, unless she re-marries Andrew.

Megs is going to have to curtsy to the Pork girls when Harry's not with her, just like Kate is supposed to do when she's not with Wills (although I hear Kate ignores that edict).

r8: "If the Queen goes, there's a good chance the monarchy goes with her." Not a chance in Hell. Did you happen to see ANY television today??

[quote]Fergie will never be invited to events Charles hosts, unless she re-marries Andrew.

If Andrew remarries Fergie, doesn’t that mean that Charles will stop inviting Andrew?

[quote]If the Queen goes, there's a good chance the monarchy goes with her.

If the British cancelled the monarchy, it would quickly be picked up by another channel.

oh c'mon, she probably put out the rumors herself...getting married to Andrew again. What did she do with her money? She is a sell out. She sells meetings with Andrew as we all remember, caught on camera!

I find it so funny that so many of you on here, and apparently also in the royal family, can't forgive Fergie for trying to sell access to her ex-husband, when the Countess of Wessex was known to do the same thing with her PR firm but has been forgiven, and that DL icon Princess Micheal of Kent has long been known as basically a whore, who will go anywhere and do anything if someone will pay her the money.

Sophie Wessex got nailed once in a sting.

Fergie's failings are mostly self inflicted. She's a needy imbecile.

Fergie is the favorite among the royals (& former royals) for some DLers because she has been the most fun-loving and the wackiest among them. But for other DLers she is the least liked because she has been the most willing to whore herself out for money and she also has consistently shown such terrible judgment. Sophie Wessex certainly made a mistake when she was willing to sell access to the royal family, but that's the only major mistake she's made: otherwise she's been extremely presentable and has been on the up-and-up. but think how many annoying scandals and mistakes Fergie has been part of, beyond trying to sell access to Andrew, from the toe-sucking photos (with her daughters right there) to call the make-money-quick schemes by selling out her name overseas.

Fergie's weirdest quality is that though she likes to go before the cameras she is a terrible public speaker--she has a whispery voice and talks too fast. She also talks about nothing but herself and the royal family, nearly incessantly.

And Princess Michael is so far out of the royal family she's practically on Mars. She's the elderly wife of the elderly younger son of a long dead (70+ years!) royal duke. She doesn't even enter into the picture for anyone.

Anyone see a guest list for the Frogmore dinner?

Some are suggesting it is thinly veiled money making event for the Prince Charles's Trust?

Are only those who were in the front of the church included and if you were seated in the cheap seats, family or not, you would not get an invite to the evening dinner?

Some articles are claiming that the first reception was a send off for those people from Sparkle's old life who will now be dropped. And that the evening dinner is for people wanted for Sparkle and Harry's new circle.

Off with the old, on with the new.

Has anyone seen a guest list?

Really r95? That's interesting, that kate won't bow bown to the little porkers. Got any adjacent gossip?

Shouldn't they all be bowing to both Kate and Meagan?

R106 No because the York sisters are Princesses by virtue of their birth, whereas Kate and Meghan are only royal by virtue of marriage. As long as Kate and Meghan are accompanied by their husbands they outrank anyone below their husbands in the order of succession, but if they are on their own they rank below Blood Princesses, because they do not have Royal Blood. This will change for Kate when William becomes King, because she will also be crowned as Queen Consort and would then outrank all women in the family regardless of if she is accompanied by William or not. Sarah, Duchess of York is however not currently a member of the Royal Family and should curtsy to all of them even though Commoners are no longer required to.

She is now Her Royal Highness, the Duchess of Sussex. Like Princess Kate, everyone but the stuffy protocol queens will be calling her Princess Meagan!

R108 “Everyone” being stupid Americans, presumably?

R107 is one of the most pathetic posts I've read in a long time.

Fergie is the people's pork.

R107 should through away whatever book of Victoria-age etiquette he's using. No-one bows and curtseys to the royals anymore, except maybe the queen on special occasions. Did you see any of it at the wedding? Of course not. The idea that literally anyone at all in the UK, let alone Kate and Meghan, will bow or curtsey to B&E is laughable. And, to be fair, I doubt they expect or even want it.

When the Queen Mother died the "Firm" invited her to the service. But put her in the balcony all the way in the back where no one would see her.

[quote] I find it so funny that so many of you on here, and apparently also in the royal family, can't forgive Fergie for trying to sell access to her ex-husband, when the Countess of Wessex was known to do the same thing with her PR firm but has been forgiven

Sophie learned her lesson. She has not put a foot out of place since then. She's as sainted as the Queen. Sarah on the other hand, is a greedy, money grubbing pig. She and Andrew are not together as a couple in the romantic sense. they are a couple in the grifter sense. Fergie got caught selling access FOR Andrew. That's the only reason he keeps her around. Do you really think that selfish piece of garbage cares about anyone but himself? He keeps Fergie around because she's been selling access for Andrew and to the Queen for Andrew. She does the deal making, money collecting for him. In mafia speak, she's his bagman. Or in common language, she's his pimp. The Queen paid up all of Fergie's debts (because they were probably half of Andrew's debts too and it made the story go away quicker)

There was a big scandal that didn't get much press last year because the Queen shut it down in exchange for interviews with the media. That scandal was Andrew using Buckingham Palace and probably all the other palaces as an Airbnb (the royal version). He sold out a bunch of rooms in Buckingham Palace to the super trashy beckham family for a birthday party for their dumb daughter and her rich friends (stella mcCartney's daughter). The palace admitted it happened, they said Andrew wasn't paid any money (it was Fergie) and they also mentioned (but none of the other media picked up on) the fact that members of the royal family from time to time have members of the public over to the palace. That was dynamite because it lets us know he's done it before. They certainly couldn't say this is the only time he's only done this (because it's NOT). They mentioned that Fergie was at the event too (you can't have Andrew collecting a big bag of money). That statement was insurance in case other stories about Andrew renting out the palace emerged. Right after that the Queen gave interviews

We all learned from the Tiger Woods scandal that rich people who usually don't do many interviews will suddenly decide to give interviews in order to kill an unflattering, scandalous story about them

And for every story we know about Fergie, there are probably a dozen others that we don't know about and the courtiers were able to get hushed up. Those stories had to have involved Andrew. The Queen has essentially hushed up most of his scandals or had what should have been giant scandals (andrew and the pedophile best friend) hushed up after a day or two. I'm sure Charles has many good reasons to dislike Andrew and want to keep him in the background. He won't cover up for his brother when he is king

Why should she be invited? I don't know many divorced people that still go to their exes family's social events.

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R112 I'm not using any outdated "Victorian" Etiquette it is known to be the way that the Royal Family operates as the above link from the Independent demonstrates.

R114 your whole story has come into question. The queen has never given an interview—ever.

R117, she looked sooooo FAKE in the pic you posted.

R119, you need to update your source for current events. She spoke to the bbc for a documentary!

here you go R119. open your eyes!

Oh please, one friggin interview that was only about her coronation—and it was for a documentary. And I’m sure she approved the questions beforehand. What other “interviews”?

R121 The Queen has spoken to people on-camera, but she has never done an actual interview, regardless of how it was labeled. In an interview you ask questions and the interviewee responds, but that isn't allowed with the Queen. Instead, the host has a conversation with Her Majesty in which they make a statement and then she makes a statement but no direct questions are allowed.

Thanks r123. There’s some tall tales being told on this thread.

[quote] Sarah on the other hand, is a greedy, money grubbing pig.

I really don't think that's accurate. If you figure her actions over the years it is plain she isn't terribly smart, she has next to no impulse control, and a lot of trouble moving on. She probably still is lurking around thinking Andrew will remarry her after the old man dies. (And maybe he will, but seems unlikely.) She's a child of divorce... that can really be a mind bender... she seems every bit as fucked up as Diana was, less Diana's vindictiveness and cunning.

How old is Harry?

I misspoke when I said she gives interviews. Her people give interviews for her. They usually are very closed mouth about the Queen and don't make any statements regarding her or the family, unless they have her permission. Her people have spoken out in the past couple of years and told little things about her personal life to the media. They usually don't say anything about the Queen. PERIOD. The Queen has also posed for a cover of Vanity Fair Magazine. And yes, there are interviews regarding the photo session. Do you really think she just felt like posing for the cover of a gossip magazine? Especially one that reported on her favorite son being best friends with a convicted pedophile and possibly being involved with said activities?

We all know Vanity Fair's Graydon Carter isn't above killing a juicy story. Especially if he gets something out of it. A cover photo of the Queen of England is a great deal. And that story about Andrew hanging out with convicted pedophile and being accused of rape by a then underage girl was reported on and disappeared immediately in the general British media. Even the tabloids were on tiptoe reporting it. They actually went out of the way to report their was no evidence Andrew was involved. That has to be the first time the British tabloids have ever done that for anyone. The reporter (Vicky Ward) who wrote the story on Jeffrey Epstein even publicly stated that Graydon made her leave out lots and lots of details about the whole scandal

I do remember Vanity Fair reporting on Andrew, "The Trouble With Andrew" detailing many of Andrew's other problems (including the Epstein problem). The article was very, very tame. And then the Queen did a cover portrait for Vanity Fair. I guess this was just a coincidence. Or maybe Vanity Fair is the only magazine in the entire world, so the Queen had no choice but to be on their cover

George Cloony wanted to dance with fergie but she SNUBBED him at the reception!!! HA!

I wonder when the articles about Trump and Epstein will come out?

gee, i wonder how much Fergie knows about that? I hope she doesn't meet with an accident anytime soon.

R118, all the Independent was doing was repeating the theoretical and virtually dead stuff you said. Even if it's still 'on the books', everyone will just avoid the specific scenarios, because it would be ridiculous and embarrassing for all concerned to try to get Kate or Meghan curtseying to B&E.

R52, thanks for posting that. I always enjoy her work.

Charles the hypocritical adulterer & his Nazi father Philip are the ones snubbing Fergie!