People Hollywood is trying - and failing - to make into leading men and leading ladies

I agree, Alicia Vikander is nothing. She fucked Harvey W, that's how she got her start.

Armie Hammer has given up on being the lead in movies.

Charlie Hunnam....well, he’s pretty to look at, and his performance in “The Lost City Of Z” was remarkable. I’ll take him shirtless and naked in any movie he’s a part of.

Thought he was mediocre in The Lost City of Z. I didn't buy him as a middle-aged man and his "posh" accent was shaky

Jonathan Groff as a hetero—totally unbelievable in that Netflix series Mindhunter.

Groff is a leading man on tv but not in the movies

A leading what?

R5 Thanks for that critical clarification - always good to hear from those on the spectrum 🙄

Chris Pratt

Second vote for Chris Pratt. Fuck, go away for 10 minutes, dude.

Taylor Kitsch

r7, you must be on the spectrum if you think there is no difference between movies and tv. Try to be less of a twat.

Timothee Chalamet

R11 Hollywood includes the TV industry, dickbag.

Chris Hemsworth

He’s a dud outside his role of Thor

Most of them?

Bingo r15

I don't get the appeal of Ansel Elgort. Even potatoes have bigger eyes.

Alicia Vikander is as bland as oatmeal- cant stand her

R8 Chris Pratt is already a big leading man star. Can't stop him now.

Let’s see him a film that doesn’t involve some huge $300 million franchise project. Everything he’s succeeded in would’ve worked with any number of interchangeable actors who could’ve been plugged in.

John Boyega . Terrible actor, not good looking, got in through the PC door, and is the weak link in every movie he's in.

By the way, is he gay?

Chris Pine

Idris Elba is the male equivalent of Alicia Vikander. Boring, boring, bland and boring.

Of all the Chrises, I like Chris Pine the most. He's not only impossibly handsome, but he's charming, can sing, and has a sense of humor. I can see him growing into a distinguished, grizzled character actor like Jeff Bridges or something. I don't know where the fuck Hemsworth will go after all those superhero movies.

Jake GrannyHalāl or whatever his name is. Tried for years.

Also that australian wolf guy with poz face who sings and dances.

Wolferine, R26?

Ryan Twitvoiced Reynolds finally hit 1 success. So many many years and millions invested in that. In 2018, could he open any movie but his franchise? Doubtful.

Amy Schumer

Jake Gyllenhaal

Shia Laboeuf, although I think they may have given up by now.

But even as a failed leading man, he was delicious when he was prancy and thin like this:

Dylan O’Brien

Jake G at least can act. Pine will always have work.

Ryan Gosling

There are no stars anymore. Nobody can carry a picture on their name alone.

Fuck me, forgot all about Gosling. Move him to the top of the list.

They've stopped trying (thank God), but for a short while: Sam Worthington

Don't. I feel bad about Shia. He really is a fine actor. He has demons.He probably needs to be on meds for the rest of his life and hopefully he has enough money to hire a minder. But he is a very talented actor. I think he's a tragic figure.

Amy Schumer was a lot of fun. At first. No she repels me.

Now. I meant "Now she repels me."

"Terrible actor, not good looking, got in through the PC door, and is the weak link in every movie he's in"

Yawn, the Republican trolls always have to whine about everything they think is "PC" - I guess they have this weird belief that all black actors just automatically get lead roles which is far from true.

Brie Larson

[quote]Let’s see him a film that doesn’t involve some huge $300 million franchise project. Everything he’s succeeded in would’ve worked with any number of interchangeable actors who could’ve been plugged in.

Speaking of which .... Jennifer Lawrence

Amy Schumer - nepotism personified

Ed Helms - Untalented and unfunny

Alicia Vikander was only a thing because of Harvey. She'll go away now. Her Tomb Raider was a bomb.

Blake Lively needs to go away

Gal Gadot.

Margot Robbie.

Blake Lively at the Met Gayla. Just who does she think she is? Hasn't starred in a movie in years.

I wouldn't recognize half of those who have been mentioned. Alicia Vikander (sp?) ? Dear god, there is no there there. I could not pick her out of a lineup. I'm sure she is a decent actress -- at least I assume she is -- but she has no style, no charisma, no "it" factor. Same with Margot Robbie. Who the hell is she? Ryan Gosling. We have been told he is talented and hot, but...by his flacks. He lacks charm. Brie Larson. I would not know her if she sat next to me on the couch right now. But, again, she might be a decent actress. I don't think Ed Helms is terribly good, but I think he is hot, perversely. At least Amy Schumer has style and charisma and an identifiable persona, even though it is repulsive. The rest? They all blend into each other, and very very few stand out from the crowd. How on earth did they get the careers they have, when they don't have that appeal? Are there any insiders here? Did they just get lucky with personal connections and good agents? Did they just fuck for roles? How did those without much appeal manage to do it, when so many better looking and with more talent languish? Is it their drive and relentlessness?

Apparently all the blah ladies were Harvey's cum receptacles and then men, well who knows. Many of the blah men were child actors....

How'd Alicia Vikander get that Oscar? First she was clearly a lead and second she wasn't that special or well known. Dopey academy.

Wait, Alicia fucked Harvey?

I get why Margot Robbie is a thing. There hasn’t been a sexy, fun, blonde star since Cameron Diaz when to seed 15 years ago.

[quote] I get why Margot Robbie is a thing.

She really isn't.

Actually, Alicia Vickander is a very good actress. She's already won an Oscar and is able to play any range of different characters. I like her.

Chiwetel Ejiofor was very good in 12 Years A Slave and was nominated for an Oscar but everything he's done after that has been shitty. He was the worst thing about the Dr. Strange movie. Also doesn't help that you can't pronounce his name.

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R54 WHO??

Can’t tell if you were joking, R12, but Timothée Chalamet co-starred in two of last year’s Best Picture nominees (“Call Me By Your Name” and “Lady Bird”) and is the first Best Actor nominee born in the 1990s. That doesn’t mean he’ll become a huge star, but come on. He’s doing fine.

I don’t think he’s being “pushed,” either. His role in “Lady Bird” wasn’t very big, and his role in “Hostiles” was even smaller. He probably could have parlayed his relationship with Madonna’s daughter into some dumb project, but instead chose to work with filmmakers as varied as James Ivory, Greta Gerwig, and Scott Cooper.

He’s got the chops.

R42 Actually, I can't figure out who is the ugliest, Adam Driver or John Boyega.

Chiwetel is good, plus he also did full-frontal in some independent film some years ago. Hot bod, though his hair (or wig) is very different look.

Adam, R59. Definitely Adam.

John Cena - Not Gonna Happen

R61 No, John.

Chewetel Ejiofor is a fine actor. I loved him in American Gangster.. He was great in Kinky Boots and Dirty Pretty Things, and everything else he's ever done. But it seem like the powers that be who make the movies can only absorb one famous Black actor at a time. After him came David Oyelowo in Selma. Excellent actor. Now we have Chadwick Boseman who is in everything. Jackie Robinson, James Brown, Thurgood Marshall, and now Black Panther. The two guys I want to see more of are Michael B. Jordan, and Athony Mackie. And WEHT Trevante Rhodes from Moonlight? He was glorious and so was Mahershala Ali.

Straight actress Jessica Chastain.

Why do people think she is a lesbian R65?

I'd say still trying with Dylan O'Brien r33, it's too early to tell how his career will go. It looks like he has 3 films in the pipeline now, all very different from one another.

Jai Courtney and the Hemsworth brothers Chris & Liam. Margot Robbie, Brie Larson & the Alicia chick.

Jason Clarke and Joel Edgerton. Literally no one gives a shit.

R4 Groff is thoroughly unconvincing in a straight role, too fem. And without great supporting characters around him, cannot pull of the lead role in anything.

Just not leading man material for either tv or movies.

R67 I think that Dylan finally committed himself to different genres than action, thank god! Because I see very much potential there...his next movie he’ll be shooting this summer will be with Gary Oldman.

"Groff is thoroughly unconvincing in a straight role, too fem. And without great supporting characters around him, cannot pull of the lead role in anything."

People here always say this about any out actor, but I bet 90% of the straights watching Mindhunter don't even know he's gay

Dakota johnson

Dakota Johnson makes wood look animated and interesting.

Rooney Mara.

An old mayonnaise stain on the couch has more flavor than she does.

Unremarkable on the screen, and ZERO personality or charisma or anything relating to being interesting as a human.

But let's give her credit: she comes from wealth and prestige and she does manage to mention she watches John Cassavetes movies in every interview.

Amy Schumer is annoying as fuck.

R72 Bullshit. Only his diehard fanfraus think that. His fem side is obvious to the other 90% of the world.

If there's a thread about him on Datalounge, he falls in this category.

I hated Dakota Fanning in the Alienist

R79 I hate Dakota Fanning in everything.

R80 = Abigail Breslin

r54 Vikander is awful. Like watching paint dry.

Jai Courtney own this thread. Wooden and neanderthal looking.

He must have gave up his coinslot during Spartacus to make the move to American films.

Brothers of actors who have "made it". Hemsworth brothers, Dave Franco, Casey Affleck. Zac Efron leads the list here then Armie Hammer, Jamie Dornan, Henry Cavill, Ryan Reynolds, Sam Worthington.

Brie Larson.

Felicity Jones. Snore.

Lily James. Bland, bloodless posh girl.

Ditto Felicity Jones.

YES to Felicity Jones. What a snorefest. Also Emilia Clarke

R57, holy crap I didn't realize just how big a flop the rebooted Tomb Raider movie was. If not for China, it film would have made no money at all. It made even less in the US than the second one with Jolie (which also flopped).

Cara Delevingne.

Can you believe some of these bitches have Oscars already??

Every marvel actor outside their marvel roles, all bombs and plops.

Armie Hammer because he is still whinning bout that buzzfeed article .LOL

Jonathan Groff played straight fairly convincingly in 'Boss' with Kelsey Grammer some years ago.

Chalamet Will end up at a 7-eleven.

"His fem side is obvious to the other 90% of the world."

I think you are overestimating the gaydar of straight people. I know straights who were shocked to find out that Kevin Spacey was gay.

R96 True

[87] Couldn't agree more!

Meryl's fugally daughters and I'm sure Nicole Kidman pays directors to cast her.

Chloe Grace Moretz. A redneck changeling with the acting range of a stop sign.

[QUOTE]Armie Hammer because he is still whinning bout that buzzfeed article .LOL

People like to say that "nepotism gets you in the door, but you need talent to go further" Dakota Johnson is one of the best examples of how bullshit that statement is. She is mediocre looking and has no personality or charisma.

This thread is 2 years old- is Vikander done? Are all the Harvey blahs dead and buried?