Bi men are more likely to cheat, study confirms

The majority of “Men” cheat in general.

r1 Can we please keep the discussion based on data, and not just on popular sayings and your grandmother's wisdom? That's not what the numbers show. And by the way, the share of cheating straight women was very close to that of cheating straight men (7% and 8%, respectively).

Wow, I'm shocked. Said no one.

If men can't be trusted to self report our own weight, dick size, number of recent sexual partners and age, what faith can we put in this data based on self estimation?

r4

[quote]If men can't be trusted to self report our own weight, dick size, number of recent sexual partners and age

Who said we aren't? Maybe you should write to the CDC and the social sciences departments of universities all over the world with your brilliant discovery that men are unreliable, because a lot of research on psychological and sociological subjects are based on self-report.

[quote]what faith can we put in this data based on self estimation?

Do you have any evidence that bi men are more honest than gay or straight men? No? Then the differences found are valid.

As I said, keep the discussion data-based, not based on what your gut feeling or what you wish were true.

"a lot of research on psychological and sociological subjects are based on self-report"

Such clarity. Very data-based.

The same statistics could be interpreted as gay men and heterosexua men are less likely to admit to cheating than their bisexual counterparts.

r6 Um, thanks.

Any suggestion how else to study human sexual behavior such as cheating? Perhaps put a camera inside people's bedroom? Maybe a microscopic probe inside their dicks and vages? I'm sure the CDC will look forward to implement all of your - no doubt - genious, commonsensical suggestions.

And to repeat, "Do you have any evidence that bi men are more honest than gay or straight men? No? Then the differences found are valid."

[quote]The same statistics could be interpreted as gay men and heterosexua men are less likely to admit to cheating

No, they cannot, because that is "begging the question", a serious fallacy.

Why do you keep telling me to trust you R(?

In other words, you have a better chance of hooking up with a married bi man. 👍🏻

More division titles. EVERY man will cheat if given the chance of not being caught.

r12 I'm pretty sure that is not right, but how would that explain the higher numbers for bi men? Do bi men get in more situations where they're less likely to be caught? Why would that be? Are they more likely to be in a job where they have to travel without a spouse?

What isn't right is a "National Study on Adult Men". How many straight men, how many gay men, how many bi men, how many asexual men, etc., etc. These studies need to be broader and longer. This just sounds like click-bait.

r14

[quote]What isn't right is a "National Study on Adult Men".

What does that mean?

[quote] How many straight men, how many gay men, how many bi men, how many asexual men, etc., etc.

Again, I don't get it - do you want sample sizes, is that it? You should just ask then - you shouldn't assume this information doesn't exist just because I didn't post it.

The study is based on the NSSHB-2.

A previous paper based on that same dataset broke down the men's sexual orientation as follows:

[quote] Of these participants, 1,609 were men, with 69 self-identifying as gay, 22 as bisexual, 7 as asexual, and 9 as other sexual identities. ... We also oversampled men who identified as sexual minorities, resulting in an additional 283 gay men, 112 bisexual men, 8 asexual men, and 10 men of other sexual identities.

The same size for asexual and Other men is very small, but that of straight, gay, and bi men is adequate. I don't see why you're mentioning asexual men - you don't need them to draw conclusions about straight, gay, and bi men.

Shitty, lying bis!

We back to the bi hating threads again. Ugggh

It's not bi-hating to discuss the results of a scientific study.

They're just addicted to the euphoria resulting from being desired. They'll fuck anyone.

Not a scientific study rather an opinion survey r18

Self-report studies like this are of limited scientific value.

r20

[quote]an opinion survey

Huh? Which opinion was surveyed in the study?

And this is science because surveys are social science. Surveys are data, and data is what all sciences are built upon.

Then the self-reporters are FULL OF SHIT, r15.

The scientific studies show that bisexual men VASTLY outnumber gay men.

Kinsey, for instance, found that 38% of men are bisexual by the time they reach age 80.

Hardly as surprise. A bottom doesn't get to be a bottom with a woman.

A lone survey with a sample size of over a hundred bisexual men is not enough to trumpet as "proof" of anything. Nowhere approaching enough.

I'm no fancy ass statistician, but a sample size of 134 doesn't seem adequate. Regardless, something people should keep in mind when looking at results like this is that bisexual men are far more likely to be closeted. Self-identifying as bi in a survey doesn't mean they are out. I'd bet if you did a survey comparing rates of cheating between closet cases and out folks, the closet cases would have higher numbers. Especially for bisexual men, because being openly bi is the social equivalent of wearing a scarlet letter "A." Cheaters aren't going to put their partners on notice like that.

Big picture: holding out bi men accountable for the behavior of closet cases only discourages people from coming out. Don't do that!

So many desperate gay guys (ie only sleep with men) like claiming to be bisexual to get the gays with a fetish for bis and straight men.

[quote]The scientific studies show that bisexual men VASTLY outnumber gay men.

You're insane. Not a single survey has bi men vastly outnumbering gay men.

Look at the latest numbers from the CDC'S NHIS:

1.8% of the male population is gay and 0.5% is bi.

[quote]I'm no fancy ass statistician, but a sample size of 134 doesn't seem adequate.

The study in the link is the first one to analyze actual cheating, but others have already established that bi men struggle more with monogamy - ie, are more likely to describe it as a burden and a sacrife.

This is from another study:

"Bi individuals viewed monogamy as less enhancing than gay, lesbian, and straight individuals, and similar to uncertain or questioning individuals. Bi individuals viewed monogamy as more of a sacrifice than gay, lesbian, and straight individuals, and similar to uncertain or questioning individuals. Bi-identified men viewed monogamy as more of a sacrifice than bi-identified women, F(5) = 22.09, p < .001."

I know of at least two other studies showing the same thing, one of which is an Australian nationally representative study.

I have not known many monogamous gay men in my life, I'm 57. The era I came out in was before AIDS and sex was everywhere and anytime. No one was monogamous. There was no impulse control.

My question is do bi men cheat more when they are in a straight relationship with the opposite or the same sex? Do they cheat more when they are in a gay relationship with the opposite or the same sex?

r30 It's well known that in your era monogamy was rare among gay men. There's a study, called "Heterosexual, Lesbian, and Gay Male Relationships: A Comparison of Couples in 1975 and 2000", showing how gay male monogamy grew from very low levels in the 70s (less than 10%) to the year 2000 (almost half). Gay men are following the same tendency as straights and lesbians, who've also grown more monogamous since the 70s.

Young gay men in particular (<25 years) are most likely to reject non-monogamy.

[quote]Do bi men get in more situations where they're less likely to be caught? Why would that be?

Bi men tend to marry women when they really want cock so of course they would cheat eventually. It’s not a question of if but when.

Wow - some seriously butt-hurt bi's on this board upset at this study! This surprises NO ONE. And this is why trust is such an issue with bi people.

I'm sure a lot of bi men don't think cheating on a female partner with another man is actually cheating - which is why the numbers are so high.