Any Disney gays on here?

Grown men who love Disney unnerve me a little.

Hi Tommy!

My Husband is - I support it. We go three times a year.

I keep it a secret @R1. That’s nice that you support your husband @R3

Obsessed?

I used to love that guy on Howard Stern who loved going to Disney every year.

We went in April and going again in June, and again in the fall, next year Disneyland and probably Disneyworld twice. We buy annual passes because we go so much it is cheaper than getting tickets etc...

We used to go a lot then it got very fucking expensive

r8 it's not if you stay off property. I got a Hilton Amex which gets me diamond status and we stay that Hilton(s) next to Disney Springs. We get the annual passes because the amount we go it works out to less than 50 dollars per park visit, and that does not include the free parking (22 dollars a day) the discounts on shopping and restaurants. I other credit card gets me the presidential club in Avis so I pay for a mid size and get a two car upgrade. Last time I got a mercedes suv. - so really the most expensive thing is the flight - which we spring for first class since it is not that expensive of an upgrade from coach. All in per trip it is not much more than 1500 for two people per trip. Some pro tips - Never buy merch in the park. There are two Disney Outlets in orlando that stock enough shirts, toys, pins, etc at a huge discont. It's real disney merch too so the people back home would never know. Eating at Disney is expensive. For a family the Dining plan is usually a better option as long as you take advantage of it. If you don't want to do the park from sun up to sun down - get their early and plan on eating outside Disney. Dinner for 4 in park can run 200 dollars easy. Outside - a lot less. Use the Fast pass + system. If you are staying on property or at a good neighbor hotel you can book your fast passes 60 days in advance. Frozen, 7 Dwarves Mine Ride, Fligths of Passage, Snow White - these are rides that have 2-3 hour waits at peak times. Book fast passes for them. One trick - Frozen in Epcot - (the old Norway ride) if you cannot book a fast pass. Get to Epcot when the front opens. the world show case opens later but..Frozen opens when the front opens so if you get thier early you can ride Frozen about 3-4 times in a row before the crowd.

I have some admiration for a brand that turns itself into a multicultural lifestyle for an entire country. That’s pretty phenomenal. But in the end, you’re just buying mass marketed fantasies and kitshy crap...you may as well be Catholic.

Thank you @R9 Well I am catholic @R10

I have several friends who work at Disneyland, so I used to go a few times per year. I would stay across the street on Harbor Blvd. and use the park as sort of a home base. I would wander through and watch the people, maybe do a ride or two, and generally kill time before meeting my friends. I wouldn't call myself a Disney fanatic, but I do admire the operation--the thing is a well oiled machine, and the fact that the basic design still works as well as it does after 60 years is a marvel.

I've skipped it for the last year, because every time I go to one of the Disney websites the photos of the crowds are alarming. Even on a slow Tuesday the park looks packed to capacity. I can't imagine what this summer will be like when the real crowds hit.

Yes! The planning is half the fun.

A woman I work with has taken her daughter there several times and once she came back with a bad cold type thing, and another time she came back with friggin norovirus...took months to recover. But she is super OCD and she does get off on all the planning that’s required, so she is planning another trip right now.

Those giant turkey legs people walk around eating are repulsive. Who wants to eat that shit walking around? Doesn’t it make you sleepy?

I'm a fan of Disneyland's Long Lost Friends event.

Lol the Tarzan. I have a good story about that. We went once and the Tarzan and Jane were out for meet and greet. My friend said "OMG I know who that is.." so waited in line. I was going to take the photo and my friend went up to him and said "didn't you used to gogo dance at Parliment House?" Tarzan turned beet fucking red and just shoed him away on to the next photo.

I find it bizarre. But someone told me “it’s about being happy” - made me realize why people like it. Land of make believe happiness. As a brutal realist and pragmatist who spends too much time in my head, it’s totally not my thing and I can’t stand being there. But understand that people who like it are just wired completely differently than me. Enjoy if that’s your thing.

r9 terrifies me. Please tell me you're a straight woman.

r19 Nope gay man - I don't even like Disney that much my Husband does. I am the pleaser type in a relationship. I'd do anything for him.

[quote]my friend went up to him and said "didn't you used to gogo dance at Parliment House?" Tarzan turned beet fucking red and just shoed him away on to the next photo.

A guy I once worked with fell hard for a stripper in Vegas. She was half Japanese and half Navajo and absolutely beautiful the way he tells it. She told him she was from LA and only worked Vegas during the big conventions. Anyway, she got him for several hundred in lap dances in the VIP lounge and he thought she was worth every penny.

Two weeks later he's at Disneyland with his wife and kiddies having Mickey's Big Buffet Breakfast and in she walks dressed as Pocahontas.

I've been to Euro Disney about a decade ago. It was fun.

I don't really collect memorabilia but I do like collecting Disney Blu-rays and soundtracks.

I’m not much of a Disney fan generally, but I’m a huge Disneyland. Before going to the parks for the first time in my thirties, I considered Disney retrograde, kitschy, and a lowest common denominator sort of entertainment. I still kind of think so, but everything changes when I enter the parks. My cynicism disappears, my anxiety subsides, and I’m happy. I can't explain or justify it. I’m generally a melancholy, overly critical sort of person, and getting worse as I get older. The simple happiness I find at Disneyland is magic, or as close to magic as my world has to offer.

We’re in LA and have the signature plus passes so we can go to the Anaheim park anytime, and we're renewing to the premiere next year so we can go to both Orlando and Anaheim next year. We’re alternating between overseas vacations and Orlando as frequently as we can.

And to whoever equated Disney to religion, I’ve been know to call our monthly annual pass charges my monthly tithing. It’s expensive but a small price to pay for the pleasure we get from it.

I love some of the Disney films, enough that I'm embarrassed to admit it to other adults. In fact I'm feeling unwell today, and just watched "Beauty and the Beast" and "Frozen" while I'm home.

But I have absolutely no interest in the memorabilia or toys, and haven't liked Disneyland since I hit puberty. I went when I was in my forties, and it seemed borderline hellish, with all the crowds and expense. Never go there sober, once you hit the age of reason!

Is there any cruising inside the park? I’m sure there are some hotties on grindr in there.

I’m a huge Disneyland FAN (and also possibly a huge Disneyland).

r25 There certainly is on Gay Days.

Or if you're into furries.

My husband loves Disney. Since his mother retired to Florida, every time we go visit her, we go to a Disney Park for a day or two. That's about 3 times a year. We've also done a Disney Cruise.

This is all getting to be a bit much, and even my hubby realizes that. We've agreed to limit Disney to once a year.

So many places to explore in the world, and to keep going back to some silly tourist trap multiple times a year.

I got a hummer in typhoon lagoon from a cute otter

R9, that was almost as exhausting as going to Disneyland.

I go to Dubai and duck Sean Cody models.

The parks are too crowded. They need to build more of them.

[quote]Some pro tips - Never buy merch in the park. There are two Disney Outlets in orlando that stock enough shirts, toys, pins, etc at a huge discont. It's real disney merch too so the people back home would never know.

Perhaps the saddest words I have read on DL

r34 eat a dick how bout dat?

R16, what the fuck is on his stomach? That’s not how you draw abs.

Former Disney World CP here. I've visited a handful of times since completing the program 10 plus years ago for old times' sake, but to also see what's new (Magic Kingdom expansion, etc). Would avoid visiting in the spring/summer, much too crowded and hot. In the fall, you can check out Epcot's Food & Wine Festival and the Magic Kingdom's Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party. This is a special ticketed event, but it is slightly cheaper than a regular MK ticket. If you can go on a school night the park is most likely at a third of capacity, making it very easy to avoid lines and do everything you want to do (and in costume, if you're into that).

In two weeks I'll be vacationing in France and have already purchased my one day mini pass to Euro Disney. I think I'm solely going to take pics of the french version of my former location to send to old coworkers for a laugh! Can't wait.

I go every month. It got really expensive so I bought a season pass and that helped.

r25 i blew (and was blown by) a cast member in a storage closet off Injun Joe’s Cave. another cast member who worked for the Haunted Mansion gave me his number, I met him after work and went back to his apartment just off property.

it’s all there, if you want it.

r37 it is called disneyland paris now

R40 I know, and I am sort of disappointed that Phantom Manor will be closed for refurbishment when I visit. I have been told it was the scariest of Haunted Mansions, alluding to the catacombs of Paris, etc. Would've been fun to see, but at least there is a 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea walkthrough!

Both Disneyland Paris parks look quite small in comparison to their Floridian counterparts. I hope I can cover both with a solid 12 hour day.

I'd like to visit DisneySea in Tokyo.

Are they building any more parks?

I wish they'd built Disney's America in Virginia. Would have been nice.

Anyone been to Gay Days at Disney World? Is it basically an orgy at the hotels?

not at disneyworld - I have at Disneyland - it is a mad house, I saw a few Drag Race Alum - stood in line for Haunted Mansion with Manilla Luzon - she/he was really sweet took a pic, talked to us the whole time. It is more fun at DL because it's LA - More gays per square inch.

I go to Disneyland at least once a month to maximize the value of my Annual Pass.

R44, did you stay overnight near Disneyland? Was it an orgy?

R45, do you buy one every year? Is it a good value?

R47, I do buy one every year. I started with the cheapest AP 5 years ago and have upgraded each year since. I now have the top tier AP and pay $82.42 per month (nothing down, since it was a renewal.upgrade). This includes free parking, free MaxPass, a bonus month, and higher discounts on food and merchandise.

I find the park very relaxing, even when it is super crowded - which is often. I also go for a full week preceding/during Gay Days as one of my two vacations each year.

I personally find it to be a good value.

"I blew (and was blown by) a cast member in a storage closet off Injun Joe’s Cave."

I hope you were wearing these...

There just need to be more Disney parks at the Disneyland Resort and WDW. The parks are just too crowded. Need more capacity. A third park in Anaheim, a fifth park in Orlando.

They're building a third one in Tokyo because the parks are so popular there. DIsneySky.

The guy in the video at R50 is pretty cute.

I wanna go to the Shanghai one, but I'm afraid of polluted air and rudeness. And animal cruelty.

Who's the ABC reporter at R52? He's gay, right? Looks kind of like that hot one who had the shell explode in Iraq, Bob Woodruff. What a waste btw (Woodruff being embedded and losing his looks).

r44 actually, i think i was naked except for a t-shirt. i also exchanged blowies in the cab of a pickup truck in the contemporary parking lot, on the fort wilderness nature trail, and got banged in the back of a GMC in the amc parking lot. the vehicle sex was at night, FTR, and in the days before ubiquitous HD surveillance.

[quote] So many places to explore in the world, and to keep going back to some silly tourist trap multiple times a year.

You can say that about Las Vegas, too.

We do, R55, we do!

It looks beautiful @R52

If fewer people would go to Disney World, it would bring down the prices for everyone. Disney made a billion dollars on parks and resorts last year. They could afford to cut prices quite a bit if demand would shrink.

[quote]I now have the top tier AP and pay $82.42 per month (nothing down, since it was a renewal.upgrade). This includes free parking, free MaxPass, a bonus month, and higher discounts on food and merchandise.

How is paying $82 per month a good deal? I don’t care how much discount in food you get, that’s not worth it at all.

This cute gay guy has a wealthy friend who "helped him go to Disneyland Paris" and see very high-end suites...

His hag walks along with him as they tour a hotel...

Sad video, R60. He's so overwhelmed by a shitty-looking suite.

To R59 -

It's Disney's idea of a "good deal" and the fraus with kids eat it up.

If you really examine any "deal" through Disney, you'll see it's beneficial only to those who frequent the park like it's a shrine.

For those who visit once in a blue moon, sticking with paying for everything as you arrive is much more economical and practical.

I met a cute guy on Grindr, but he's way into Disneyland. He lives around there and hangs out with friends in the evenings there, like suburban kids go to the mall to hang out... he's cute, though... not sure what to do.

Their hotel rooms are so painfully ugly. The furniture looks like it's from a discount furniture store...

A Disney adult ticket is $120. Paying $82 every month doesn’t even make sense. Why not just buy the tickets each time you go? Say you go 6 times a year. That’s only $720 if you just buy the tickets versus $984 for a yearly plan.

Cute disney gays.

Are these two a couple? Surely the guy is gay..

Losers.

Some of them are cute but not bangable b/c ... Disney. I mean do they even fuck or jerk off at all? Do they watch porn? WTF...

I'd totally finger him and smash, but ....

r59, I go a MINIMUM of 20 days per year, including a five day stay during Gay Days, I pay $984 total for a 13 month period. Buying the tickets separately would be $2600. Not including parking (about $300) and MaxPass ($200). I'm saving $2100.

So, yeah, I think it's a good deal.

R71, do you know hardcore Disney people like guys at R70? Do they do hookups and essentially anonymous sex, or are they only into dating and "getting to know someone" before fucking?

Wouldn’t you save even more by, oh I don’t know, not going over 20 times a year like a crazy person?

What is MaxPass?

Sorry, that's $2100 for tickets, till, that's $1600 savings.

MaxPass allows you to manage Fast Passes on your phone. It comes "free" with the upper tier AP's but cost ten dollars per day without it.

*still

r72, generally, hardcore Disney Gays are pure in the park but whores in the hotel.

R77, THANK YOU. I've been wondering about that for a while. They're normal when it comes to fucking, surely. Whew.

I want to bang this kid. So cute. A bottom, surely.

Anyone fuck a character actor? "Flynn" is fucking hot.

Caftan gay at R80. DLer?

Those are not real. They’re just employees dressed as characters.

Patrick Dougall is good looking, but he knows it. so that makes him both annoying and useless.

I LOVE Disney World and the Finding Nemo hotel! We plan to go back next year for my daughters dance convention. She is 9 and bored with Disney already! Oh well, I am usually the cynical 48 yo, but Disney World makes me very happy. I turn into a kid again. It is like walking into another world. BTW - The Sleeping Beauty restaurant is awesome - I really like the decor. Happy just thinking about it :):)

I meant the *Beauty and the Beast castle restaurant!! Gorgeous

Of course I find Disneyland to be a little slice of personal hell, but since I indulge in my own hobbies more than 20x a year, and take hobby-centric trips, who am I to judge incredibly frequent visitors? No, the only people who really have a right to judge you are the loved ones that get dragged along!

They have my deepest sympathies, of course.

I have a friend who works at Disney World. He said that hooking up in the park or outside the park while working is a huge no no but it doesn’t stop cast members from doing it. He’s done it a few times but outside the park and once he was off the clock.

This Tarzan is soo cute!

Boner in the third row!

r88 ugh i bet that awful wig smells like sweat pizza.

^^^ disney world in Florida now has a four seasons for those complaining about hotel decor

"sweat pizza!" Love it.

Actors do bathe, you know.

Do they have a casting couch for Tarzan?

[quote]^^^ disney world in Florida now has a four seasons for those complaining about hotel decor

Who are these people who can afford the Four Seasons after coughing up for tickets and $20 hot dogs and exorbitantly priced T-shirts?

"Is there any cruising inside the park? I’m sure there are some hotties on grindr in there."

A lot of the male workers at Disney World are gay

[quote]A lot of the male workers at Disney World are gay

I heard some male hairdressers may be as well, but one really can’t be too sure these days.

the actor can bathe, r92, and the cast members’ clothing can be laundered or dry-cleaned... but those costume pieces!

two of my buddies in college served as mascot, and i’ll never forget the awful mix of sweat and dried grass smell the day i tried on his head. i can only imagine what daily use in florida heat and humidity must do to the cartoon costumes.

I went to Paris with my family when I was 12 - the last day was reserved for Disneyland. Me and my parents were the only three people from our large tour group who skipped it, because I told my parents that I would like to see the stained-glass windows of Saint-Chapelle instead. I guess I had lots of class even as a small kid, unlike most other posters here.

I happen to admire some of Disney's older animated films, but everything else about their empire is tacky as hell. And the way they killed public domain as we knew it (with some help from the cunts in the US Congress) was just tragic.

[quote]I had lots of class even as a small kid, unlike most other posters here.

MARY!!!

LOL- the four season is cheaper than the most expensive Disney hotels. We stay at the Hilton next to Disney Springs. I get Diamond status with my Amex card so we get a free two room upgrade - usually a suite on the executive floor. Free parking, free "high speed" wifi (the better wifi speed) and breakfast and cocktail receptions in the evening. We literally only eat dinner due to all the perks. In addition to that the card pays 250 dollars in resort costs - including room service. It is actually nice not to have to go out to restaurants every night.

Holy shit on the Maxx Pass - that must be new. Disneyworld does not charge for the fastpass + system.

OMG! I love some of the posters on here so much. My finger is sore from pressing the W&W button. I KNEW there would be a few turds around to knock them, but they're HAPPY PEOPLE and they bounce right back.

I went to WDW back in the early 70s when it was NEW. I came all the way from London, England and in those days English kids didn't go to Florida and people would literally LAUGH IN OUR FACES, when they heard our accents.... especially black gurls for some reason.

Back then the ride everyone told you to go on was Pirates Of The Caribbean - but it was broken down when we were there. So, I've still never been on it. My fave was the Peter Pan Ride over London and the haunted house of course.

We stayed in The Polynesian Village which was very nice and there was a soda dispenser in the hallway that sold Frosty The Snowman Root Beer, which we all became addicted to.

I went back in about 2002 and thought it was pretty horrible and crowded - but reading this thread I'm re-thinking it.

Before we went my father gave me a copy of this "souvenir" booklet and I looked at it for months before we got there.

I went to WDW in the 70’s too! It was so unique and exciting! The haunted house was the most memorable. I haven’t been since so I still think of it like it was back then. It wasn’t overcrowded as we went in October of 73 or 74. A different world for sure.

What is the most expensive Disney world hotel @R100

The Contemporary is pretty damn expensive at 900+ per night (just because it is down the street from the Magic Kingdom, breakfast with Mickey and the monorail running through it). I was completely underwhelmed. The place looked like a Holiday Inn inside. I prefer the Art of Animation a lot more and it is much cheaper with fast pass included. Live and learn.

We are going to WDW next year and staying at Animal Kingdom Lodge, but not in a room with a savannah view. I like that we’ll be able to walk out and see giraffes. They also have nighttime safaris.

I really wanted to take a day out of the park to see the Weeki Wachi mermaids, but they’re too far away, sadly. My dad gave me his old Viewmaster from the ‘50s and one of the reels was of Weeki Wachi. It was VERY glamorous and exotic to me ten year old self.

The Animal Kingdom lodge sounds cool.

Animal Kingdom and Wilderness Lodges are the two least expensive deluxe resorts. We wanted to stay at the Contemporary but can’t justify the cost.

I got to go to Grad Nite at WDW. That was fun, except for having to wear a suit.

I can't believe The Contemporary is so much money. It's like staying at Grand Central Station.

the grand floridian, wilderness lodge, polynesian village and animal kingdom are generally more expensive than the contemporary, r109

Not true, R110, at least for Animal Kingdom and Wilderness Lodge. Grand Floridian and Polynesian are the same as, or more expensive than, Contemporary.

The Grand Floridian was nice

The Polynesian has new water built bungalow/houses that rent for up to 10K a night.

Disney is contributing a percentage of its “Rainbow Mickey” collection to an LGBT organization.

The only thing that excites me about Disney is when they open a new park.

My partner works at a top theme park. Picked him up on his day off via grindr. All the staff live within a couple of miles of the resort and you can spot them online as they have the faceless profiles. Bought the annual pass to go visit him between shows. Got to know all the regular park fans (mostly teen fags and hags, plus parent types using kids as a prop). Learnt all the short cuts to get round the park, and timings, to avoid the heaving masses. Learnt how to negotiate the car park to cut the walk in by 10 minutes. Take a cold beer in a small rucksack with a saved branded plastic glass so I can sit in the sun waiting for the parade. It’s the best part because many of the characters recognize me from the off-park social events / parties and give me a special mini performance as they pass - much to the annoyance of the regular paying punters around me. Not as many characters are gay as you would expect, but still a good few. Fun to recognize them (out of costume!) on the nudist beach too.

I believe, Disney is one of the first companies to offer same-sex partner benefits. A corporation that has an acutal GAY DAY(s) at their parks and I have seen gay families at the park being treated just like straight families long before gay marriage was legal in the US.

R116, are you in the UK? Which park?

Ugh. Why are grown people so hung up on this crap!?

Gay UK Disney couple.

I went to Disneyland once and regret not planning my rides and researching the actual format in advance. We wandered around listlessly, eating giant pickles, drinking lemonade and queuing. The crowds were very overwhelming. I wonder if the sheer size of WDW might make it less packed.

WDW is a toilet, filled with southern trash. At least at Disneyland, you are near civilization and see celebs galore. Just look for cast members in plaid- they escort the VIPs around.

r122 Disneyland is always always crowded. Just due to it's size and the fact a lot of Californians just go there. God forbid you go on a busy day. It routinely hits capacity ride waits can be hours long. We went during gay days and made reservations for lunch and dinner. Both times we were told they overbooked and we would have to wait an hour and a half for our reservation.

R123, that's never happened to me and I occasionally go to the Blue Bayou. The better restaurants are in Downtown Disney or the hotels anyway- Catal, Steakhouse 55 and you can drink.

The big difference between the California parks and the Florida ones is the size of the local population.

Are they building a third park in Anaheim?

I went to Magic Kingdom in the 90s during the peak of the Disney Renaissance and it was wonderful. I would like to go again but I fear it would be a disappointment. I assume the parks now favor the more recent films and characters? I doubt I would see any Hunchback of Notre Dame stuff, or DuckTales and Darkwing Duck...

It is nice to hear that the warm fuzzy feeling I experienced 20 years ago is still conjured up when you all visit the park. I would hate to return and see the whole thing as a crass money-making merchandising enterprise.

But it also depends heavily on the company you keep. I wouldn't want to go to the park with just anybody. Part of the magic of the place is building memories with people you really care about.

And yes I realize how completely cheesy that sounds.

R88 With nipples like those, this Tarzan could be wearing a live mongoose on his head and I wouldn't notice.

Has anyone been to Harry Potter World at Universal Orlando? Did you like it?

They aren't building a 3rd park at Disneyland, they are opening StarWars Land next summer.

liked 60s era Disney but grew to hate it in the 80s and continue to now

This dude subsequently caught a lot of flack for this video he posted on Disney Shanghai hell. He refused to back down.

Don't they treat/pay their employees hardly any better than Wal-Mart?

I'm not really a fan of a lot of the animated films. I really like the vintage Disney cartoon shorts especially the Mickey Mouse ones (and I love the Mickey Mouse series that came out in 2013). I actually prefer Mickey and Minnie's original character designs from the late 20's-mid 30's. The only Disney stuff I own are a dozen Disney Princess dolls I got from Wal-Mart, a Mickey Mouse hooded sweatshirt from Avon and Mickey and Minnie Mouse dolls from the Bradford Exchange.

It's very annoying whenever they endlessly re-release their classic animated films on DVD/Blu-Ray.

Would love a third park in Anaheim or nearby. But not one exploiting animals.

r124 - it was Blue Bayou that told us we had to wait an hour for our reservation. The DD restuarants are nice yes but you need reservations for those as well since they do not require park access on the weekend.

[quote]Has anyone been to Harry Potter World at Universal Orlando? Did you like it?

It's split between the two parks (Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure), so if you want to see the whole thing, you have to pay to get into both of them.

r131 - please tell us what the 60s version was like. Curious.

Has anyone done the parks during Halloween? I'd love to see if they'd bust out the Horned King from Black Cauldron.

Downtown Disney restaurants never require park access, on weekends or any other time. Neither do the hotels. You are talking out your ass.

Animal Kingdom is about as non-exploitive as an animal can get outside of running wild in the jungles of Africa. There are no show or trained lions or tigers and the like. Just lovely animals doing whatever they please wherever they please on a huge beautifully landscaped and wild non-landscaped savannas. I love the idea of sitting out on your balcony and watching the animals feed and graze. It's almost like being on safari, without the airfare and long flight. The cost for the prime animal gazing rooms is probably n a par with the Mt Kenya Safari Club though. They are very in demand too.

All in all the Grand Floridian is and has always been my favorite on property hotel. I was given a very nice suite for a week in the GF and I was allowed to bring a friend during the first year it was open. Even though we had passes for all the parks, I didn't want to leave the luxury of the GF. But my friend did, so we compromised. I don't know if it is still good, but Victoria and Albert's at the GF was quite the experience for dinner. You will see no children or characters there.

R139 in her suite at the Grand Floridian...

R140 Okay, that is pretty damn funny, and I can see why you would post that photo. I did not mean to come across as grand or entitled, but I see that I did. I was grateful as hell to have been given the suite and the passes. It was perhaps the nicest perk I received while doing my job as a flight attendant in my 30 year career. And there was no quid pro quo attached to the offer either. When we arrived and saw our beautiful room filled with flowers, fruit and champagne, my girlfriend said, "oh god Chris, what in the fuck have you gotten us into? Is -----going to be ringing the doorbell ready for his BJ any minute now?

He wasn't even on the property, and he never asked for a thing in return. He simply was doing something spectacularly generous for his "favorite stew" who had taken care of him on his many LAX-ATL flights over the year before the GF opened.

But if I am to be completely truthful...that first class vacation would have been well worth the giving of a bj.

No third park in Anaheim as of 2015.

Ew, they have a SeaWorld day. Not cool. Stick with Animal Kingdom - less totally evil and exploitative, though horrible shit happens there (rhino killed with a stick up his anus when the park first opened - probably staff - look it up).

R143 Link please. I have spent an hour researching the deaths of animals at the AK and there is no mention anywhere of an animal of any species with a stick up its anus.

This sounds like internet bullshit. There have been quite a few deaths, but they are poisonings, maternal neglect, and being run over by a jeep. There are 4 deaths which for which the cause is not known, but they were cheetah cubs.

Me Me Me!

I love Disneyland and Disney World. Where do I start? I've been to Gay Days at both. The Disney World one is the best because they have an all night party at Typhoon Lagoon (one of the two Disney water parks in Orlando). It's a beautiful party with real rainbows usually. If you hate the Disney parks, it's because you haven't gone with me. I can size you up and impress you. There's just about everything for anyone. My husband doesn't like crowds or Disney but even he admits World of Color and Soarin Over California are amazing experiences you can't get anywhere else. I also think anyone would enjoy the drawing class at the Animation Station at Disney's California Adventure. They also used to have a thing where you could voice the characters in a Disney movie and then they'd play it back for you. Very cool. It was closed last time I was there though. It is also hard to not be floored by It's a Small World at Christmas time at Disneyland. The thing is covered in Christmas lights. Fucking beautiful. I try to go see it once a year. In 2012, they did something really cool at Disneyland. They opened for a full 24 hours for leap day on February 29th. The thing was jam packed but still really fun. You've never been at Disneyland til you've been at Disneyland at 3 in the morning. Daisy, Mickey, Minnie, and Donald made appearances in their pajamas and bathrobes. It was a cute touch. I've never done Disney Cruise though I worked for them for three weeks and quit (that's another story) before we set sail. What I'm looking forward to now is the 2019 Disney World Marathon in January. I ran the NYC Marathon in 2015 & 2016 but haven't run at all since. I'm going to start training for the Disney one soon. Oh boy! The marathon runs through all of the Disney Parks in Orlando which is daunting if you understand how spread out the parks are.

Easy, R144. Here.

Some more, R144.

More coverage.

Nice to animals?

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Thanks. No wonder it was not covered in articles which are likely slanted to be kind to Disney(like the local paper.) God I wish I had never read your comment in the first place, I feel horrible about that and I no longer want to go back.

Adults who are Disney fans are very disturbing.

r138 - no, I mean DD restaurants are crowded on weekends because they do not require park access. All of DD in Anaheim is packed on a weekend because they stop charging for parking after 6 I think - it is a fucking mad house on the weekend. I know DD never requires park access any time...I just meant because of that it is busy as hell on the weekends - excuse my bad breath since I am talking out of my ass ...MARY!

Wrong again R154, aka Minnie pussy breath. Both the hotel and DTD lots charge for parking before and after 6, however they validate for a certain amount of time with restaurant reservations or minimum $20 purchase.

R155 hence the I think..and I was not wrong before..so suck it, MARY!

Enjoy 3 hours of parking when you make a $20 minimum purchase and receive validation from any Downtown Disney location (including quick-service restaurants, merchandise locations and kiosks)—or up to 5 hours of parking with validation from any Downtown Disney table-service restaurant or AMC Theatres movie experience.

It is crowded on the weekends, less so on the weekdays unless there is a specific event like exclusive releases or Disney artist events at Art of Disney. Things like Star Wars weekend or the month and a half long high school senior event(s) for the area high schools can make it and insane crowd.

The Star Wars lands are going to look great. They're building one in Disneyland and one at Disney's Hollywood Studios in Orlando. They're huge it looks.

Maybe they'll add Wakanda somewhere, if BP become absolutely huge over a few sequels.

I was at Illuminations this evening at Epcot in the FP+ area. Patrolling the back of the area was CM Michael, who was Spanish of some kind. A DCMILF.

I think at Epcot, Norway, Italy, France and the UK usually have the hottest CRP CMs.

I am at Disneyland waiting for fireworks right now! Happy Sunday night.

[quote]in the FP+ area

a true Datalounge Disney gay!

r159 What the hell is CRP?

r162 if only there were some way to run query-based searches which returned a ranked and weighted result set.

You're all AIDS-ridden faggots. Garden-variety white middle-class cunts.

[quote]What the hell is CRP?

The Cultural Representive Program. It’s the foreign cast members who work in World Showcase at Epcot.

I liked Cesar today at La Cantina de San Angel. He was wearing a Mickey glove and saying Hola. The thing I fear about crushes on CMs is that it will be like it was for Rose when they take off the Goofy head.

Just coming off a 2 week bender of round-the-clock Disney YouTube, a little surprised this only has 160-something replies.

r159 I vehemently disagree. the Moroccan gentlemen holding those Marrakech menus out in the glistening hot sun always had a similar effect on me!

Adults into Disney, Star Wars, etc usually seem to be simple-minded toothless hillbillies.

[quote]I was at Illuminations this evening at Epcot in the FP+ area. Patrolling the back of the area was CM Michael, who was Spanish of some kind. A DCMILF. I think at Epcot, Norway, Italy, France and the UK usually have the hottest CRP CMs.

Jesus Christ, nobody understands anything you’re saying. How lazy are you to not write out anything?

i understood perfectly, r169

Why does the Mitsukoshi department store in the Japan Pavilion have almost all women working there? Is it a Japanese cultural thing? I saw one guy there for the first time ever.

Why does the Morocco Pavilion have only Jasmine and no Aladdin? I don’t care about her. I think because it’s in Morocco, Disney would feel obligated to have an Arab cast as Aladdin, and that would jar American guests. In the Magic Kingdom, they can slap a black wig on anyone and he’s Aladdin.

Rain and lightning washed out today’s Hoedown Happening at Frontierland. Sad! That’s my favorite thing. I like the Main Street Trolley Show too, even though they just lip synch while they dance.

R171, yes, Mitsukoshi is overwhelmingly staffed by women in Japan. It's a Japanese thing. They don't really have shop bottoms there.

R171, they don't have other Arabs because they don't want to make themselves a target of tokenism - OMG I'm the only Arab in the Morocco Pavilion - let me write to BuzzFeed about how weird it is to be the Arab token! CAIR gets involved, etc.

Most all of the “free roaming “ animals you see on the safari are, in fact, locked up at night. It’s a zoo.

[quote]i understood perfectly, [R169]

Then you must be one of the likkle people

i’m whatever you say i am, r175. feel better now?

Lots of Grown men on youtube you make videos about Disney

He's kinda cute

This kid has an interesting voice cadence.

They must be all gay. No straight man would make videos about Disney.

Disney knows how to do fireworks shows

I think the Disney weddings are cool. I want one!

Certainly less embarrassing than being a Brony.

I’m surprised by the adults who make it a priority to meet costumed characters and converse with them. They know they are talking to and hugging a cast member in a suit, right? The practice seems really strange. The non-face characters make me very uncomfortable, since I can’t see what the CM looks like.

[quote]I’m surprised by the adults who make it a priority to meet costumed characters and converse with them.

I guess we won't be seeing you at the next Furries convention.

I’ve wondered about the furry connection.

R184, I hear that Minnie is really a guy and usually furiously masterbating under his costume.

r187 it all has to do with height. mickey is almost always played by a female; pluto and goofy by males.

i suppose i should be ashamed to admit that i know that.

R188, be ashamed if you're molesting kids, not something as innocuous as this.

I’m thinking about overcoming my aversion and doing some hugging of the big (straight male CM) characters. Can they be penalized if they recoil? It would bother me if they recoil.

r190 as a teen-age gay i shamelessly flirted with some of the better-looking CMs. they took it in stride (but unfortunately didn’t offer anything in return, well, the straight ones, anyway)

For those who've had the pleasure of fucking with a cast member: How do you know? What kind of signs or action to look for? That Flynn in the video at R80 ... Damn!

r192 one dropped his phone number into my lap. i was at his apartment off property that same night!

Straight cast members at Disneyland? Since when?

If you went to Disneyworld anytime from the 70s to the 90s and haven't been back but are thinking of returning think again.

It is such a humungous cash grab it's horrible and the crowds are a nightmare. Everything has to be planned months in advance including the fucking rides through fastpass unless you want to stand in line 2 hours for a 2 minute ride.

I loved it back way back when but will probably not be returning.

Disney himself was brilliant in that he knew how to give you value for your money but now they don't give a fuck. More space has been taken over in the Magic Kingdom for merchandising stores and overpriced restaurants with mediocre food. I also think the cap was much lower on the number of people they let into it. And the miserable shits got rid of Mr. Toad!

But if you insist on going and giving your wallet to Bob Iger the Wilderness Lodge is wonderful and the obscenely expensive Victoria and Albert restaurant is worth doing once in your life.

And Boma in the Animal Kingdom Lodge is terrific for a buffet.

Disney under Walt = WASP = fair price at a fair pace.

Disney under Iger = Jewish = chaotic extortion.

It's what happened to the US in a nutshell

Does anyone here watch any of the YouTube channels that some dudes do to document their DCP and afterward at WDW? It can be entertaining to see what dudes do by themselves at Disney. Kevin Heimbach's channel and Andrew Heidorn's channels are some examples. This video is kind of funny, with Andrew and one of his roommates, Axel, doing the hook hand challenge at MK.

I never got the constant blathering about Disney "magic.". For me, the old style parks had all the magic since they were engineered only for rides, not an anticipated psychological reaction.

They left room for personal dreams.

Do you think Goofy and Pluto were lovers? It's OK because they are both dogs.

I always thought something was up with Donald and the nephews- Huey especially.

"And Boma in the Animal Kingdom Lodge is terrific for a buffet."

Isn't this where the animals go when they outlive their usefulness in the Animal Kingdon park? Do they become part of the buffet?

"Yes, that's right little Tommy. Just a week ago that lion was walking around in the park. Today he's a part of your dinner!"

An amusement park that has a payment plan for passes might just be a tad overpriced.... just sayin'.

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Boma has an excellent buffet. The African flavors are delicious.

Wish they'd built Disney's America outside DC in VA. What a missed opportunity. Thanks, David McCullough (occasional plagiarizer).

I'd get married at the Disney Wedding Pavilion if it were free... I know they do gay wedding there. Wish it were more contemporary, though.

Listen, we *ALL* know what went down in Ancient Greece. On top of that, Hercules is basically every #masc4masc muscle queen you find on your Instagram Discover page. Also, "Go the Distance" is definitely about bottoming for the first time.

Insane silly made-up BS about a gay Disney animated movie. Never gonna happen.

I think Shawn Hook does the best rendition of Go the Distance.

Spooge.

Some of them could have been made hotter.

Super gay.

It looks expensive and tiring. I would need another vacation to recover from my Disney vacation.

Wish they built the one in Virginia.

R214 damn at Prince Eric

All of them are pretty good at R214

I had sex with a guy one Halloween who was wearing a Tigger costume. Does that count?

I’m going to check out Pixar Pier for the first time tomorrow.

PEDOPHILE ALERT

r221 I haven't been to Disneyland since 2011 but from what I can see online the new Pixar Pier is just a fancy paint job, don't expect much.

Gay men into Disney completely freak me out.

I would be very scared of what sheets I might find....

I just find the parks fascinating. Like the real estate impacts etc.

This would be your nightmare, R224.

I'd buy tasteful Disney sheets. Not sure how they're make them tasteful.

"Tasteful Disney Sheets" reveals THIS:

^^ I just mean the SHEETS, btw

[quote]For those who've had the pleasure of fucking with a cast member: How do you know? What kind of signs or action to look for?

If you really want to pick up a cast member go to the Anaheim Garden Walk about 4:30 (It's across from the cast member parking lot on Disney Way just east of Harbor). Second floor, first bar you come to on the left. It used to be crawling with cast member craving alcohol. It was a big hangout for the characters (look for a bunch of really short women hanging around with a bunch of tall guys).

Is Pixar Pier just a remodel of Paradise Pier?

Disney owns ABC, ergo The View aka The Meghan McCain Fox News Hour, and it just bought Fox. No thank you. Done with Disney.

r233 It didn't buy the Fox Network or Fox News.

R233 It cast Fox News’s Meghan McCain on its show and allows her to have the final word without apology on every conversation, and the show has been sucking the dick of John McCain all year and is about to hire Fox and Friends’s Abby Huntsman. Fuck them.

[quote]Is Pixar Pier just a remodel of Paradise Pier?

Yes. It is essentially a “re-skinning” (as they say) of what was already there, with some minor changes. It’s a pretty shameful, lazy move actually. But people reason the all the money going into Star Wars Land, which is huge and completely new.

Disney fucked up big time with DCA- thanks Michael Eisner. The concept was stupid to begin with. Let's do a themed CA park in CA? It wasn't until Cars Land went in that people even wanted to go over to that park. Everything was ill-thought and cheap. Now it's nothing but a hodge-podge.

Starting next summer, I believe all pass levels (maybe not the most expensive) will only be good at one of the parks a day. So you may get stuck at DCA and not get Disneyland. The only saving grace is that they serve alcohol.

Once Star Wars Land opens, the crowds and parking will be unbearable and it's bad now.

Disney was going to open “Disney America,” a colonial-themed park in Virginia, when I was young. I was so pissed off. Everything in the DC area and in Virginia is about fucking Thomas Jefferson and George Washington sleeping around. I’m glad it fell through.

R238, it wasn't about colonial America. It's theming would have started just before the Civil War.

R239 still bullshit. No kid wants to go to Disney World for a history lesson about wars.

I like how their animated movies have changed with the times. Empowered women, complex villains, supportive men.

The original Hall of Presidents at WDW was better than its later versions. The Whiskey Rebellion, the Civil War, the Saturn V launch and President Lincoln speaking was so much better than the modern crap they have now.

I just really like this guy.

R243, wish his sideburns weren't so long. Kind of yuck.

I'll spend money on their stuff once they make an overtly gay animated movie.

R240, it would have been better than any lame visitor's center in the area. I guess Virginia is anti business. Hate NIMBYs.

Earnings miss. Parks were weak. They need more parks, better attractions.

I can't watch it in public - it's too embarrassing (childish, lowbrow), so I watch it in private.

The guy at R248 is kind of hot but he's straight.

Why are Disney theme parks in Japan and China but not South Korea?

Probably because they can't afford it.

Piece of ass from 7:23. "Philip" (character).

What happens if you propose a hookup to a character cast guy?

What if you ask him if he's on Grindr? Do they pretend they're unfamiliar with the app or technology generally? Or do they whisper and tell you where to meet them in their break?

*on their break

I've tried to understand the adult-level obsession with Disney, but it's just lost on me.

Visiting twice was enough to last my lifetime.

I find their acquisition strategy fascinating. Lucas, Pixar, Fox. Wonder who's next.

We have DLers who've worked there right?

I don’t know what those of you who go several times a year find to do there. Doesn’t it get boring?

People in Anaheim have passes and go to the parks' restaurants for lunch brunch and dinner.

I'd like to have sex at California Adventure

I think this guy is really cute. He auditioned but didn't get the lead in the reboot of "Blue's Clues".

R253's guy is familiar. And bangable. I think I've seen him at the WeHo Whole Foods.

I am not a fan of those big parks with rides. I do not like crowds and I despise children.

Great video. Animated movies of today are encouraging social change.

I actually hooked up in a restroom of the Grand Californian hotel. Grindr hookup. He claimed he was a dad staying there with his wife and kids. Bareback topped him.

The upcoming auction is featured in the LA Times.

R265, cute son.

We tried to go to the auction exhibit yesterday. The line was way too long so we skipped.

Anyone going to gay days Anaheim in early Oct?

Walt would be so proud, r264!

R253 use Grindr. No need to ask them. If they use it they'll be on.

[quote]I find their acquisition strategy fascinating. Lucas, Pixar, Fox. Wonder who's next.

Sean Cody. Chaos Men. Kristen Bjorn.

Not into Disney here but I would totally sleep with CEO Bob Iger.

Hot daddy, r271. Gonna use that tonight.

I really want to live here, Disney's luxury gated community in Walt Disney World.

No Equinox gym nearby, however. Need the steam room action.

The character actor princes are GAY, but they fuck each other.

[quote] As one princess put it, "We weren't finding romance at work." With the fact that there is a prince for every princess, along with some other male face characters, the ratio is pretty even for male and female employees. Even so, there wasn't much of a chance for the princesses to find their own prince while employed at Disney because most of those princes were looking for their own prince.

[quote] For the ladies who are into men, working at the park must have been kind of rough romantically because there weren't that many options. Sure, you could always go outside of the park to find a boo, but from the sound of it, there seems to be a kind of "bubble" for Disney employees and they don't really go outside of the park all that much while they're employed there. It makes sense, though, being a Disney face character isn't really a job as it is a lifestyle. For those guys, though, they must have had a great time romantically while working there.

[quote] We weren't finding romance at work, because most of the guys were gay. I don't remember any specific gay romances, but I'm sure there were. Prince Charming might have been hooking up with Prince Eric. My roommates were gay and dancers at Animal Kingdom. We spent many nights hanging out in our apartment watching classic Disney movies like Dumbo together.

Disney sucks. I'd rather have Knott's Berry Farm and their yummy Fried Chicken.

All those cute prince actors are gay?. Nice.

The character performers should be required to sign a lifetime non-disclosure agreement to maintain character integrity. It’s wrong to make people thnk the characters aren’t real. The author should have said she was friends with Belle while she worked there.

R278, they do sign one.

If I go to hell when I die, it will be a Disney Park with no end.

I'm dragging my husband to a multi-day stay once Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge opens.

I'm very curious about the Scruff scene in Lake Buena Vista.

Whoa, R281 it's going to be crazy when it opens. There's one in Anaheim opening too. Star Wars hotel in Orlando however.

I'm sure the SW hotel is going to run ten grand for a week, and while I can justify spending about $4K for a Disney trip, I just can't make that kind of coin make financial sense.

Although the descriptions of it sound amazing.

Yes it looks like it'll be very pricey. Nice to visit at least to take a look.

This thread reignited my childhood obsession with the parks and hotels, in particular by tying my adult interest in sex with it. Now I want to go hookup at Disneyland.

Yum.

[quote]This thread reignited my childhood obsession with the parks and hotels, in particular by tying my adult interest in sex with it. Now I want to go hookup at Disneyland.

Would you be more interested in a closeted dad or a castmember?

Either, R287. Both.

R287, I'd be up for Prince Phillip at either R252 or R253. Or both.

I'm sure every square inch of the property is monitored.

I want a married dad like this.

We need a DLer meetup. California Adventure this fall?

Epcot or GTFO.

R293, California Adventure works great for people in LA. Orlando is a bit removed from large concentrations or DLers I think.

Yeah, but I want to come and I'm on the East Coast.

Also, we could get into a slap fight about which country has the hottest guys.

Answer: Morocco.

Adventure thru Inner Space (1967-1985) was known as the "make-out ride."

Hmm. There could be two, CA and FL.

Smelling cookies, Prince?

Also, Drinking Around the World would be a lot of fun with you bitches.

Cutie.

R293, where are you located?

I had a bunch of stuff saved from Disneyland including the original Haunted Mansion record album with booklet, and a lot of other stuff which collectors pay good money for now. My stepmother threw it all away when I went away to college.

Definitely smelling cookies.

Those eyebrows.

Gay bitchface?

When does Aurora's prince wear this stuff?

Are they naturally happy extroverts?

[quote]If I go to hell when I die

IF? Is there really any doubt?

Did they get those costumes from Michael Jackson's estate?

I can't imagine what kinds of parents the character actors had, who'd approve of their doing this instead of college and graduate school...I don't get it.

Adorable

Many are high school drama kids. This gay guy, for example.

[quote][R293], where are you located?

Northeast. Much easier flight to MCO.

He may not be a Disney Prince but he's a British lord and King of the Jungle.

( I love how his navel is part of the belly art)

I love Disney World! It's just fun to let yourself go - there is something fun and sparkly there. I know some of you are pent up, panties-always-in-a-wad, jaded gripers, but come on, it's fun!

I really like Disney World, except for the animal abuse/captivity, the roadkill (on their internal road network), and the habitat destruction of the massive developments (always growing). But I'd rather have it exist than almost any other development on land (sprawl housing all over the country, ugly malls, etc.).

It's so overcrowded, however, so I'd love it if they built a new water park (to compete with Universal's new water park), and a fifth theme park.

They have a Mickey-shaped solar farm, and they're building a gigantic 500,000-panel solar farm that will supply enough electricity to power two of the parks. Impressive.

[quote]It's so overcrowded, however, so I'd love it if they built a new water park (to compete with Universal's new water park), and a fifth theme park.

I'm honestly surprised they didn't create a new park for Marvel and Star Wars instead of adding onto the existing parks. Although I guess it was cheaper since complete identity redoes of Epcot and Hollywood Studios are coming sooner or later.

It's just a matter of time until they buy out that Islands of Adventure contract.

R316, I think Star Wars will really help Disney's Hollywood Studios park A LOT. It might become bigger than Epcot after Galaxy's Edge opens.

I think if Marvel and SW prove dramatically powerful/popular, they'll seriously look at opening an action-oriented adult-focused park. Maybe institutional investors will start bringing it up in conference calls, since the parks are hugely important to earnings.

The houses at the WDW gated development, Golden Oak, are so terribly ugly. They should have gotten famous architects to design them.

Is Golden Oak just homes, or do they have a city center like Celebration does?

I can't imagine wanting to shell out seven figures to live at Disney World.

I think we'll see new parks at existing locations or a new global location once Iger leaves. The new CEO will want to make his/her mark. Iger's big thing was opening Shanghai, his big mark on the parks. He's not leaving anytime soon, however, but his replacement might be the current theme parks VP.

I'm thinking a non-kingdom park in South Korea, since it's become big with the Chinese and to some extent the Japanese b/c of TV and music), of limited size to start (as they did in Hong Kong, starting small and now expanding with new lands and a second park pending).

R318, it's homes, an (ugly) clubhouse (I think with its own residents-only restaurant), and special privileges at the (ugly) Four Seasons hotel nearby (spa access, etc.).

Despite the ugliness of much of the development, if they added an Equinox nearby, that'd cinch it for me - like someone said before.

[quote]I'm thinking a non-kingdom park in South Korea, since it's become big with the Chinese and to some extent the Japanese b/c of TV and music), of limited size to start (as they did in Hong Kong, starting small and now expanding with new lands and a second park pending).

Can Asia really take a fifth park? Hong Kong Disneyland has really struggled, and has lost money for the last three years. And there's not really much park in Shanghai just yet.

I do give them a lot of credit for being sensitive to cultural differences.

R321, those three countries - China, S. Korea, and Japan - are rabid about theme parks. More than any other region in the world. Absolutely crazy about them - and they buy tons of souvenirs.

They're absolutely obsessed - in particular, their younger women. Japanese women collect plush Duffy dolls (Tokyo Disneyland's own most-popular character) and other plush dolls in the hundreds (new iterations coming out every month, announced in advance online, available only in Tokyo Disneyland and Tokyo DisneySea) and they BRING them to the park to "experience" it with them, lining them up in front of them when watching parades, etc.

It's kind of religious for some of them. I've never seen or heard of such mass obsession elsewhere. Certainly not in the EU lol, where it's deemed vulgar.

R321, Hong Kong was an exercise/pilot of their "start small" strategy, and they're spending billions to essentially double its size in the next few years - and there'll be a CRAZY new castle. A second park is in the works (they committed to it when negotiating with the HK government, as they did in France ages ago).

As long as a new park in East Asia isn't another kingdom park - if it's unique among the Asia parks - they'll go back and forth to see it. Korean go to Japan and China for the other parks, the Japanese go to HK, the Chinese go to Japan for Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea, etc. It's a constant flow.

I don't like Disney's apparent "be happy all the time" message, but I do like its message (as I perceive it) of being kind and "good."

When I think of how a Disney protagonist would behave, it calms me down (in that the alternatives are less tempting) and helps me do the right thing, regardless of how difficult or (at least) uncomfortable it might be.

E.g., maybe picking up some litter that's right in front of me, regardless of what other people might think. Or ... trying to find love instead of looking to just get off with random guys. Or ... getting out of a Lyft to help an animal.

It makes me feel kind of idealistic and free to be myself - like the nice things children are capable of (though they're usually cruel). The nasty voices in my head, criticizing me for not keeping my head down instead of extending myself to help others or do something good - those voices are quieted when I think of Rapunzel's sweet face, or Mulan's bravery, or little Pua the pig in Moana.

It says that it's ok to be sweet and kind, not "hard" all the time, even if you're a guy and live in the modern "real" world where everyone's on Grindr looking to nut etc. You don't have to be cool all the time, or sophisticated, or "in the know." You can embarrass yourself to do what you know (or what your heart tells you) is right.

Also, it gives me hope when things don't look very good - when I'm inclined to despair.

[quote]I don't like Disney's apparent "be happy all the time" message, but I do like its message (as I perceive it) of being kind and "good."

You could equally make the argument that their message is "CONSUME!"

On the other hand, they take animal conservation at Animal Kingdom very seriously, just announced a ban on plastic straws, have every single hotel at WDW certified to environmental standards, and are using that solar plant as part of a plan to halve their carbon footprint by 2020.

In other words, they can be a mass of contradictions. It's crass capitalism, but it's at least genial crass capitalism.

And, at the risk of opening up a trans-related can of worms, I adore that they let boys get Disney Princess makeovers if they want to. Who didn't want to wear Belle's ballgown while dialing the phone with a pencil in front of the magazines attractively fanned out on the coffee table?

Hot as fuck.

Nice but cringy.

This is nothing to do with a dashing Disney princess, but it's a video of a Wicked Queen (of the Disney variety) who REALLY gets into it.

I kind of want to be her.

This is pretty cute. Starts at :39

R232, that Castle is pretty but insane.

R323

I wonder if people in other English-speaking countries are relieved that they don't have Disney theme parks.

I'm surprised the new castle in Hong Kong was approved. It's such a risk design-wise. Looks cool, though.

Their blue sky concept art doesn't always translate directly into reality. Disney usually gets pretty close, but I'd be surprised if the castle was actually that tall, for example.

I do really wish they'd export Mystic Manor, although since it would likely come at the expense of the Haunted Mansion, maybe not.

Mainland Chinese (cf. HK, Taiwan, Singapore) can't have nice things...

Like Russians: fair play, respect is foreign.

The Shanghai Disney Pirates of the Caribbean ride is unlike any other ride in the world. It is off the chain.

I wish they would have made the kind of investments into WDW and Disneyland/DCA that they've done into the Asian parks. I know the money for Tokyo comes from Oriental Land Company, but you look at DisneySea and you look at DCA, which opened in the same year, and DCA was just such...shit. It's certainly better, and I know they pumped some money in a few years ago, but what's really changed? Most of what they've done, aside from Cars Land, is just a new coat of paint on the old park.

I'm glad Universal and Harry Potter forced them to invest in Pandora and Galaxy's Edge, but from the videos I've seen of Toy Story Land at Hollywood Studios, I'm surprised how sparse it seems.

They have a slight problem with racism at the parks supposedly.

Issues at the park...

Another family

R338, they almost built DisneySea in Long Beach...

Disneyland has always treated blacks in a way to make them avoid the park. I am glad this family is making it rough on the park in return

Seriously, R343? I've never noticed anything... Tons of people of different ethnicities enjoy the parks in LA...

When I was a kid, Dad's job would give employees discount coupons for the park. The black guys would always give them back.

Magic Mountain is the park black people enjoy.

I'm a black gay and I've loved Disneyland my entire life. Many of my black friends do as well. Just wanted to provide an alternative experience to r345's statement. Though I love Magic Mountain as well. Knott's is cool, though not preferred. Universal Studios is tons of fun. Big theme park fan.

Disney isn't hostile to minorities. That's insane. The head of ABC is an African-American woman. A third of the computer animators there are Asian. I bet around at least a fifth of employees are LGBT. Come on.

I believe Disney was one of the first major corporations to offer same-sex benefits. When my ex worked at the studio ( this was the late 80s), I was always invited to business dinners and treated the same as any other spouse. Ditto for parties, premieres, etc.

At some point, an Xtian group called for a boycott and the excutives laughed it off. You can't keep kids from Disney.

You all talking corporate policies. This is about employees acting out and their actions getting just a bunch of corporate speak and attempts at payoffs to shut up.

I always see lots of African Americans at Disneyland. But there are definitely more African Americans at Magic Mountain and that has created some problems. Several times, the park has been shut down to additional guests and one African American patron said on the news "they closed because there are just too many black people inside".

I've never been clear on Magic Mountain - whether it's a Six Flag park or whatever. I heard of it fleetingly and never bothered to look it up.

Matt Damon queens it up at California Adventure.

Magic Mountain is also just cheaper to go to as well. $20, $30, $40 a ticket adds up, especially if you have a family.

Yes, but does Magic Mountain have cute, slutty twinks dressed as Prince Charming that'll give you handjobs behind Splash Mountain?

[quote] Matt Damon queens it up at California Adventure.

How is he queening it up?

Ok, Gays.

My husband has never been to Disney World, and I get the general impression that he'd sooner dig his eyes out with a spoon than visit of his own free will. However, he owes me a vacation there, and to that end, we're taking a cruise this winter that includes a stop in Port Canaveral which will function as a trial run. If I'm figuring the time right, we'll get somewhere around six hours of actual park time after transportation is factored in.

So, Epcot is the least likely to make him want to commit harikari. The transportation drops you off at the TTC, so we'd have to take the monorail over. Between lunch and getting a few drinks in World Showcase, I'm figuring a good plan is three, possibly four rides tops. You get one E ticket Fastpass and two D (?) ticket ones at a time. So I figured Soarin', Mission: Space, and Spaceship Earth. Would anyone recommend switching out Test Track for Soarin'?

Or is it just less complicated to do MK, even if that means no booze? We'll be there on a weekday in January if that makes a difference.

stay in World Showcase, r356. keep Soarin. ditch Mission Space in favor of... more World Showcase.

the French and Chinese films really are worth working in. and the tequila bar in Mexico! i’m getting a buzz just thinking about it.

Why was Tangled rated PG?

Is it because Flynn is too sexual?

What’s Soarin?

Magic Mountain is a toilet. They actually had looting at one of their gifts shops.

R359, a simulated flight over California's (and I guess the rest of the world now) most famous sights at California Adventure. Epcot has it too. Originally conceived for Disney's America theme park (Victory Field).

Several planned attractions for Disney’s American ended up at Disney’s California Adventure when it opened in 2001. The Family Farm land concept was reworked into the Bountiful Valley Farm and the Victory Field idea was repurposed into Condor Flats. California Adventure’s Grizzly River Run was inspired by the Lewis and Clark Expedition plans, and the concept for Calfornia Screamin’ came from the roller coaster ride that would have been located in the State Fair at Disney’ America. Soarin’, which can be found at both Epcot and California Adventure, developed from rides planned for Victory Field.

r356, may i suggest on your second trip to the Orlando area, you stay in the luxurious and vibrant Parliament House? i’ll leave you to your own research...

Thanks, R361.

[quote][R356], may i suggest on your second trip to the Orlando area, you stay in the luxurious and vibrant Parliament House? i’ll leave you to your own research...

HARD PASS!

LOL

The reason Magic Mountain gets a sordid crowd of every stripe is because Supermax Prison is only seven miles north of it and Wayside Correctional Jail is even closer. If you live in L.A. or Orange County, going to Magic Mountain is a pretty long haul, taking from an hour to two hours depending on location. It's smart to combine your trip. So you can visit your loved one at the jail in the morning, then go to Magic Mountain right after. What a fun day!

r367 There's no Supermax prison near Magic Mountain. The closest one is in Tehachapi, which is a a good hour-and-half away.

They call the North County Correctional facility in Castaic "Supermax." Geez I can't believe I'm talking about prisons. I swear I've never even been to one.

[quote]the French and Chinese films really are worth working in

I saw Impressions de France this summer and I hadn't seen it for a long time. It looks like the video has been cleaned up technically. The picture was really sharp.

I saw O Canada a couple years ago. With Martin Short it's awful. There's nothing worse than hearing Canadians trying to promote Canada.

Many Disney fans hate the use of the most popular contemporary characters and movies to theme new attractions in the parks. They call it "IP-izing" the parks. They're very attached to old attractions and hate when they change. The weird, boring, and unfunny old ride in the Norway pavilion is now a Frozen ride, and they freaked the fuck out when it changed. They endlessly bitch about how "their" park is changing. Every change is a tragedy.

Snobbish assholes.

Disney destroyed copyright in the US. The public domain isn't expanding anymore. Horrible.

Bastards.

[quote]Many Disney fans hate the use of the most popular contemporary characters and movies to theme new attractions in the parks. They call it "IP-izing" the parks. They're very attached to old attractions and hate when they change. The weird, boring, and unfunny old ride in the Norway pavilion is now a Frozen ride, and they freaked the fuck out when it changed. They endlessly bitch about how "their" park is changing. Every change is a tragedy.

I think the switch at DCA from Tower of Terror to Mission: Breakout caused the most howling. It's "stupid and shortsighted" because Marvel and Frozen aren't always going to be popular, so it's stupid to mess with something timeless. They don't seem to get that Disney was always about putting maintenance costs off on the sponsors, and more and more sponsors don't need to sponsor something like a world's fair pavilion to reach consumers. Toy Story Land is sponsored by Babybel Cheese, and that's a far cry from Exxon at the Universe of Energy or Siemens at Spaceship Earth. They really want to add a country to the World Showcase (most likely Brazil, to finally get the southern hemisphere repped), but can't afford to invest half a billion dollars into something that won't be guaranteed to drive attendance the way Avatar, or Marvel, or Star Wars will.

Yes, it's a shame that the educational aspects of Epcot are basically gone at this point, but that was not the reason most people went. The hardcore are not the ones that makes Disney most of its money.

[quote] It's "stupid and shortsighted" because Marvel and Frozen aren't always going to be popular, so it's stupid to mess with something timeless.

It's not like they didn't do the analyses, factoring projecting duration of sufficient popularity to attract estimated additional visitors, with bumps following movie releases etc. factored in. I'm sure they have a substantially greater ROI by keeping rides relatively fresh vs. keeping things "classic." They wouldn't do it otherwise. And they're going to destroy today's newer attractions once the returns aren't as profitable as new alternatives; nothing is permanent. They're not claiming Frozen, Marvel, etc. are timeless. And anyway, how is The Twilight Zone "timeless?" It's from the 1950s and no one knows what it is anymore lol.

It makes perfect sense. The old attractions are also really depressing to look at - e.g., the cars in Autopia. Everything should be as fresh as possible, skinned with the latest and/or most popular characters and movies, as long as projected profitability is enhanced. Nostalgia for old movies characters isn't going to attract the most profitable visitors - families with kids. Repeat visitor fans obsessed with old tires can't compete. They've done the math and rolled things out progressively to verify their projections.

[quote] They really want to add a country to the World Showcase (most likely Brazil, to finally get the southern hemisphere repped)

Who's "they"? And for what purpose, if it's not going to be as profitable as alternative uses of that capital, given today's sponsor-light landscape?

The nostalgia people are such babies. They know where every little concession etc is located. Babies.

[quote]It's not like they didn't do the analyses, factoring projecting duration of sufficient popularity to attract estimated additional visitors, with bumps following movie releases etc. factored in. I'm sure they have a substantially greater ROI by keeping rides relatively fresh vs. keeping things "classic." They wouldn't do it otherwise. And they're going to destroy today's newer attractions once the returns aren't as profitable as new alternatives; nothing is permanent. They're not claiming Frozen, Marvel, etc. are timeless. And anyway, how is The Twilight Zone "timeless?" It's from the 1950s and no one knows what it is anymore lol.

And it's not like they've been stupid enough to fuck with Haunted Mansion or Pirates, beyond adding Jack Sparrow and getting a little more #woke about the gender politics. They've freshened up Big Thunder Mountain as well.

The one shame was undoing the fabulous steampunk version of Space Mountain at Disneyland Paris.

[quote]Who's "they"? And for what purpose, if it's not going to be as profitable as alternative uses of that capital, given today's sponsor-light landscape?

Executives at WDW. The rumor was a Brazil pavilion was going to cost about into the hundreds of millions, but they won't attempt it until/unless they can find a Brazilian company that wants to sign on.

[quote] And it's not like they've been stupid enough to fuck with Haunted Mansion or Pirates, beyond adding Jack Sparrow and getting a little more #woke about the gender politics. They've freshened up Big Thunder Mountain as well.

Meaning they did the analyses and found that it made financial sense.

Right. I don't know, I love the Disney parks, and it's always a little sad when something you loved changes, but it has to happen eventually. Otherwise, the alternative is let something be neglected. Horizons deserved a better ending that it got, but it also didn't deserve to be in the state it was when it finally closed.

*made financial sense in those cases. Clear what they wholly redo is so stale that they've calculated that the cost of a complete redo is more than paid for by projected additional profits.

Few MBAs among Disney nostalgia people. I doubt the majority of them know that DIS is publicly traded, or what they implies about their fiduciary obligations.

They also don't seem to understand that despite positioning itself as a place for magic adventures, WDW is in fact an exercise in ruthless capitalism. They also seem to interested in Alternative Facts about certain things. Don't judge me, but I was listening to a Disney parks podcast on my way home from work yesterday because traffic was really bad and I was bored. They were talking about how Toy Story Land has been a big dud and people are able to walk onto the rollercoaster there because attendance has been so low. Except I looked it up out of idle curiosity, and there's currently a 60 minute wait. And apparently one of the hosts (who both live in Orlando) had driven past the MK parking lot and it was basically empty. Currently 70 minute waits for Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain, and Jungle Cruise, 75 minutes for Space Mountain, and two hours for Seven Dwarfs Mine Train.

but they have fucked with the Haunted Mansion, r378! they have!

What did they do to it, though?

r385 in 2007: augmented the queue with an interactive graveyard, moved to hallway paintings out to the load zone (though i do miss those wonderful concrete urns), got rid of the huge spiders in favor of hissing glowing eyes which blend in to the corridor’s famous wallpaper, and added the MC Escher staircase room.

Being a voice in one of their movies must be easy and must pay very well. I envy actors who get those roles.

Better to get tickets now and make your reservation before prices really soar after the huge wage increase at Disney World takes effect.

Good that they reached an agreement.

I just saw the live action Cinderella. It's lovely and emphasizes kindness to animals.

Heading to DCA Saturday!

Going to DL for the Fantasmic dinner package this weekend. We’ve been going to the park for years and have never seen that show, the crowds are always so crazy

R392, which restaurant? How much is it?

I don't really have any memorabilia. I really want a maquette of Hans, however - a real one, not one of those painted ones they sell. Not sure how I'll get one...

May have to settle for this, however.

This guy really wanted to be an animator for Disney. From Sean Cody. Not sure if he made it there, however.

R396 He animated something in my pants just now.

I saw something on Meetup about Gay Day(s)? at Disneyland next month. Anyone going?

R393, you can choose from Mama Melrose's (the Italian place), the Hollywood & Vine buffet, or The Hollywood Brown Derby, which is way better than the other two.

^ D'oh—I was thinking of Disney World. It's Blue Bayou or River Belle Terrace.

Blue Bayou R393. It’s been years since we’ve gone, and we’ve only had bad experiences at River Belle. I think it’s $60-$70 pp.

This is the last weekend for Bug’s Land. It’s closing to become Marvel land next week. I hope we get at least one more serious thrill ride, we need more than just IncrediCoaster.

If you are going to Gay Days, be sure to pick up your rainbow ears. These were produced as part of a line for Pride, and part of the proceeds went to GLSEN, and “educational organization ensuring safe and inclusive schools for LGBTQ students.” I thought that was pretty cool.

Nice, R401. Gay Days is in October I think.

October 5-7 this year.

Hate that in Orlando they include Sea World. Super lame. Kind of trashy.

On a positive note, Star Wars Land will serve booze.

R404 is right. Nice.

I'm assuming they will also serve blue milk?

Yes, but you will pump it out of the multi-titted sea creature yourself.

Barf.

I really wish they'd release more info about the hotel.

When did they start using surge pricing for the single-day tickets?

Now that I'm thinking about it, I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually see a Wakanda pavilion at the World Showcase.

r409, Black Panther would be a good reason to turn Africa Outpost into a real pavilion.

[quote][R409], Black Panther would be a good reason to turn Africa Outpost into a real pavilion.

I found a clip online of an appearance of Black Panther, flanked by two of the Dora Milaje, at Disneyland, and if they could do a Wakanda as immersive as Galaxy's Edge, Pandora, or Diagon Alley, I bet it would be a real draw.

I love the new Frozen ride at the Norway pavilion. It's so cute. Wish they had Hans there as well, however.

(Hottie at :022, at the bottom around 7 o'clock. Another Disney gay?)

On Jim Hill's podcast, he said the Norwegian government wasn't thrilled with the change, R412, and it actually sponsors the pavilion.

I don't think Norway has actually given Disney any money in fifteen years. And it wasn't primarily the government, it was a consortium of Norwegian businesses.

The Kingdom of Morocco actually does sponsor the Morocco pavilion. King Hassan personally sent a bunch of court artisans to help with its construction, which is why it's so detailed.

R392 how was dinner and Fantasmic?

Fun R415. For the first time we got to sit at the edge of the water at Blue Bayou, which was fabulous. Surprisingly good food with lots of options for a prix fixe. Excellent Fantasmic seating with cheapie but cute cushions to use on the ground included. Then fireworks with projections over the river. Halloween stuff is rolling out...my favorite time of year at the parks! We’ll be there for gay days.

I know why they don't do the Nightmare Before Christmas overlay on the Florida Haunted Mansion, but man I wish they did.

R416, you have an annual pass? Wish I lived closer. I'd get one then.

Yes R148. It is a huge indulgence but we love it. My husband’s birthday is Xmas eve and we like being there when we can for that. The friends we used to visit with regularly moved or dropped their passes, so I wish you lived closer, too!

Sorry R418 not R148

If I lived nearby, I'd go there all the time, to have dinner or something (like going to the mall if you live near one for dinner a couple times a week).

Downtown Disney is nice, too, but they closed a number of places to make way for the new 4-diamond hotel, which has been placed on hold indefinitely. Disney and Anaheim also eliminated any tax incentives they'd negotiated for not only the hotel but generally. The new hotel looked nice - contemporary, high-end.

[quote]I know why they don't do the Nightmare Before Christmas overlay on the Florida Haunted Mansion

?

R419, how close to the parks do you live? Do you prefer the original or California Adventure? I prefer California Adventure myself, but I don't recall their having particularly good restaurants.

I've been to the kingdom parks quite a few times and I'm kind of over them unless one gets some really amazing new ride.

So much space to expand, with all the asphalt parking wasting space (vs. garages).

For R422

R423 we live in LA. We started going to the parks when California Adventure was starting to change. I remember the big Golden Gate Bridge at the entrance and their playing Dionne's "Do You Know the Way to San Jose" on the loudspeakers, which was campy and fun. I like it better now I think, but they've left alone most of my favorite parts, including the wine terrace with its little vineyard and the California parks section. I do miss the California version of Soarin'.

Yes, we've kind of slowed down with the parks and we tend to focus on special events and also more on food and wine. It is expensive, but there is some excellent food to be had at DLR. So we may only go down for dinner and fireworks, which never get old, or to do a few rides only. Things are changing frequently enough that there always seems to be something new.

One time we were in an elevator with a man who did a special kind of maintenance at DLR (don't want to be too specific because it was a very particular role). He said that he once was working in a room where they had tons of maps laid out, and he said it looked like they owned huge patches of Anaheim and could expand wherever they wanted. But their failure to build the second entrance makes me think that he saw what they WANTED to own, not what they did. It's not like DW, where they have thousands of acres to build.

I really feel like they shot themselves in the foot. The entire purpose in picking DCA over the WestCOT second gate was because it was cheaper, but given all the money they've had to pump into DCA to keep it going--and the bundle they're going to have to shell out to bring the Avengers in as well, they might as well have bitten the bullet and spent the money to buy the land for WestCOT.

r424 my question mark was to express “why don’t/can’t they do the overlay in Florida?”

[quote][R424] my question mark was to express “why don’t/can’t they do the overlay in Florida?”

The thinking is because WDW is a much more international destination and a "once in a lifetime" experience, they don't want to have a re-theme taking up almost a quarter of the year. Disneyland, which tends to attract a more local crowd, can do it without hurting guest satisfaction.

R428, 😮 how was he supposed to figure that out? 😂

I'd really like to score with one of the princes. Supposedly they're essentially literally all gay.

But I'd have to see what they look like, to be able to identify them on the apps. So difficult.

Or I could just go up to them and talk with them, but they can't really break character.

r428 you know my fondest memory of the Florida mansion? a cast member dropping his number into my lap. at “load” no less.

R431, what's load?

Sad video but sweet. The prince was nice to this autistic athlete kid who later died.

[quote][R428], 😮 how was he supposed to figure that out? 😂

It is a bit obtuse, I'll grant.

WDW had learned the hard way not to fuck with people's photographs. For Magic Kingdom's 25th anniversary in 1996, they did...this. And it stayed like that for over a year.

Sorry, I don't think he died. Mistake.

Prince Charming is pretty gay at R433. Nice.

And then when they opened Stitch's Great Escape in 2004, the first park visitors were greeted with...this.

Thankfully, that particular ride is dying off, and good riddance.

R428, yeah both of those are horrible. They should keep it classic with good lighting as in Tokyo.

Not wishing to sound like a big Disney MARY, but that's just...magical. Anna and Elsa really look like they're in their element.

WTF. Didn't they just reach an agreement on a higher wage?

They should just hire kids who live with their parents. Attractive college types. And automate stuff.

Well I never suspected Justin Scarred was gay just super hyper and he needs meds seriously.

He has a young boy that he's in a custody battle with his ex wife over and he's always with Ally who's pretty, quiet and unassuming. Fag hags are not pretty, quiet and unassuming. A recent vlog video had him looking around an antique store where he was seriously about to have a nervous breakdown.

I so wish he had not covered his forearms with those tatts. A complete manifestation of his mental instability. In a way I can't blame his ex wife for giving him major child custody problems. I mean the guy always seems like he's on the edge of a major collapse.

He had one video where he was in Disneyland Paris early in the morning then took his flight home to LA and then ended his evening in Disneyland.

His life is going to end in tears. He's the Judy Garland of Disney Vloggers.

For a real cutie, though also straight, Charles Boda on Dis Unplugged is a very good looking and funny guy. But an eldergay without any hope of sexual favors in return needs to give him serious money to get his teeth fixed. Pete give him a big raise or great dental benefits!

May I add if you are planning a Disney trip and need advice from vloggers among the best are Craig also from the Dis Unplugged, AJ from the Disney Food blog(I think,) the very wonderful Jen LeForge, Disney trip expert, and the inimitable super charismatic couple(straight) Josh and Taylor. This couple is so addictive and charming people are always sending them gifts, giving them hotel stays and taking them to dinner. Oh to be young and cute!

Links to these people would be much appreciated.

Who's Justin Scarred?

I like the Jingle Cruise overlay at Magic Kingdom. Also, my favorite on DIS Unplugged is Steve Porter.

Justin Scarred has a Disney vlog and somebody at the very beginning of the thread posted one of his videos, said he was gay and called Ally the girl he is always with his fag hag. There is no evidence of this.

On youtube check out Dis Unplugged(and yes Steve, who is married, to a woman, is adorable. You want to eat him up. In the old-fashioned sense.)

Check out the Disney Food Blog for endless but never boring tips from AJ.

Jen Leforge as a mother and runner has tips for the most part for families and Disney Vacation Club members. I can't remember what her vlog is called but it's always popping up. She's a sweetheart.

Josh and Taylor can be found under WDW Couple.

All these people are Disney fanatics and have many videos. All with advice on how to plan a trip and what to do.

Micechat is another great site. Covers both parks, although WDW was a one-time visit for me. Orlando is a hellhole.

If you stay on property you completely avoid Orlando. Many people leave for a day or two to see Universal.

When I was very young with my family and a friend I went a couple of times in the 70s which was the best time in its history. It really was a magical place and not at all corporate or they covered it real well. It was created by Disney's own employees who had worked with him for years and knew directly the sensibility he wanted the park to have. Now with all the cash grabs and them all dead or retired it's become as mercenary as a soldier of fortune. The knives are out to increase revenue and to squeeze you dry. Sometimes what they come up is so galling it is outright in your face cynical. But people love it. A lot of people must be printing money in Trump's US.

R426, I really like DCA. More so than the original even. Westcot ... I mean Epcot really isn't all that, and international travel isn't a big deal anymore... I dunno.

Sorry, by "original" I mean Disneyland.

Wish I could see Song of the South. I know it's not really hateful, just kind of inconsiderate.

Love Meg's song. I sing it in the shower along with the music.

Really nice PBS documentary about Walt Disney. Streams free for Prime.

Love Disney but he was a friendly witness for the HUAC(Disney fanatics completely ignore this) and strongly anti union(again they ignore this.)

But worst of all he called Maureen O'Hara a bitch when she called him having heard he was ill.

She dared to confront him over the fact that it was in her contract that she receive star billing in The Parent Trap but he instead gave it to 'Hayley Mills and Hayley Mills.'

[quote][R426], I really like DCA. More so than the original even. Westcot ... I mean Epcot really isn't all that, and international travel isn't a big deal anymore... I dunno.

I mean, of course you should like what you like. I just don't get why DCA is worth that level of affection right now. I'm sure Avengers-Land (they are not allowed to use the name Marvel Land while the contract with Universal is still in effect) will be a huge hit, but really, even Pixar Pier is just a coat of paint on the same old stuff. I just wish they'd push the envelope a little harder.

The best part of DCA is Cars Land. It is amazing, but it’s a shame, because I have no affection for that franchise whatsoever.

So Disneyland is getting Star Wars and DCA is getting Avengers? Wow, both are going to be packed. Shame they can't have a third park so each one isn't as crowded.

They really need to buy out that Universal Marvel contract.

Next time I go I'm hiring a tour guide. Expensive but you don't wait in line and there are other perks.

Starting at $2600 for six hours. Arguably worth it. Especially if the guide (called a "plaid") is cute.

My ex was a VP for the studio, and I got used to the perks. But a guide is great, especially since you can divide that cost by either 6 or 8. It's been awhile, so I forget.

In 1998 Disney finally bought the 56-acre "strawberry fields" property in Anaheim, from the family of Hiroshi Fujishige, the strawberry farmer who steadfastly refused to sell it to Disney for decades. Disney paid $95 million for the land, and also bought a 23-acre parcel adjoining it for $30 million.

So Disney has 79 acres in Anaheim, south of Katella and east of Harbor, that could be the site of a third Anaheim park, the long-rumored "third gate." They would have to build some kind of transportation system to carry guests from that park to the other 2 Anaheim parks, possibly an extension of the Monorail. For now, Disney is using the land as an employee parking lot, I think.

Regarding Six Flags Magic Mountain, it opened in 1971 as simply "Magic Mountain." Six Flags bought it in 1979 and added its name onto the name of the park. Six Flags Magic Mountain is 35 miles northwest of downtown Los Angeles. Six Flags Magic Mountain currently hold the record for the most roller coasters in one park (19) of any amusement park in the world.

In one of those "what might have been" scenarios, Walt Disney proposed that he would build a Monorail from LAX to Disneyland if the city donated the land.

[quote]Starting at $2600 for six hours.

Geez -- that's more than an escort!

[quote]that's more than an escort!

That would be so cool, to have an escort, or well-known porn star be a private tour guide at Disney. It would be a good way for them to earn money while they are on their feet.

[quote]So Disney has 79 acres in Anaheim, south of Katella and east of Harbor, that could be the site of a third Anaheim park, the long-rumored "third gate." They would have to build some kind of transportation system to carry guests from that park to the other 2 Anaheim parks, possibly an extension of the Monorail. For now, Disney is using the land as an employee parking lot, I think.

Wasn't one of the main complaints about DCA that the lack of a berm broke the illusion? Disney is usually really care to maintain the immersive experience, to the point that Tower of Terror at Hollywood Studios was designed to blend into the silhouette of the Morocco pavilion because it's tall enough to be seen when you're standing on the opposite side of World Showcase Lagoon.

Wouldn't monorail-ing guests to a park that's not even physically connected be even worse?

And what would they put in a third gate? They've already got a home for Marvel and Star Wars.

The third gate in Anaheim is extremely unlikely to happen anytime in the foreseeable future for a number of political and economic reasons.

[quote]The third gate in Anaheim is extremely unlikely to happen anytime in the foreseeable future for a number of political and economic reasons.

Among other reasons, they're pumping so much money into Galaxy's Edge and this Avengers Land. And everything in preparation for WDW's 50th in 2021.

A third park... Disney Sea is too expensive and big... Can't imagine what it would be. Disney's America became California Adventure basically... Not a studio park of course... Maybe Westcot after all.

I wonder if they have any park concepts that they haven't built. Like actual whole parks based on a theme. Somehow i doubt it. Waste of resources at this point since you can just iterate on the existing parks (studio parks in Orlando then Paris and soon Hong Kong).

Today, Obama was bragging that he got thrown out of Disneyland for smoking on a ride, but that was back in the late 70s/early 80s when Disney didn't suffer blacks gladly.

Ew, R468, why bring any of that up here?

How does one buy real Disney maquettes, R394?

R470, although not the ones that R394 wanted, I'm fairly sure the recent Disney auction had some and they weren't all that expensive either.

[quote]I wonder if they have any park concepts that they haven't built. Like actual whole parks based on a theme. Somehow i doubt it. Waste of resources at this point since you can just iterate on the existing parks (studio parks in Orlando then Paris and soon Hong Kong).

I mean, aside from the Mineral King ski resort, I can't imagine we haven't seen most of their concepts. Disney's America became DCA, as you noted, and Port Disney became DisneySea. And honestly, given the existence of the resorts at Vero Beach, Hilton Head, and Oahu, I don't rule out a ski resort at this point.

Wake me when they get around to building DisneyBathhouse.

We've yet to see DisneyAir

R474 it's called DisneySky

R472, have you been to the Vero Beach, Hilton Head, or Oahu resorts? How was it?

Hot if you ignore the family thing.

Absurd rumored concept. Dark Kingdom

[quote][R472], have you been to the Vero Beach, Hilton Head, or Oahu resorts? How was it?

No, not personally. They get really good reviews, but I just can't justify paying the additional Disney Tax for what is ultimately just another beachfront resort. If I'm going to put out that kind of coin, I want a theme park.

[quote]Wouldn't monorail-ing guests to a park that's not even physically connected be even worse?

Epcot and Magic Kingdom have a monorail between them and they are not physically connected either.

[quote]Wake me when they get around to building DisneyBathhouse.

r473 has never been to Typhoon Lagoon

R480, he mean having to cross into actual Anaheim to get to the third park. Getting from Epcot and MK doesn't require leaving WDW.

R481, stories of sex there?

r482 yes, in the shower in one of the Typhoon Lagoon locker rooms. and on the Fort Wilderness nature trail, back when it existed. and in the back of a Jimmy in the Pleasure Island parking lot. and in the cab of a pickup truck under the monorail beam in the Contemporary lot (it was dark, and raining). I also exchanged blow jobs with a cast member who had a key to a supply closet off one of the dark passages in Injun Joe’s cave.

[quote] If I'm going to put out that kind of coin, I want a theme park.

What if we threw in a nightly two-hour visit with the Disney prince of your choice?

I don't see how the new skyway from the value resorts to the theme parks is going to be in any way efficient. You're going to have thousands of people wanting to use them at the same time and they'll have limited capacity. The lines I imagine will be very long waits. Especially when the parks open and then close. And with Galaxy's Edge opening at the same time?

WDW can't even maintain its monorails or keep its rides from breaking down as it is now. And they're taking on all of this at once?

During one trip on a Halloween party night before the fireworks I had plenty of time and wanted to do the Haunted Mansion. Everything went fine until we got into the ride itself. It broke down and we were trapped. We couldn't get out. Then it started up again we got on and it stalled again so we missed the special fireworks. Later on in the trip we wanted to get to the parade in the Magic Kingdom from the Floridian. No problem only a few minutes right? No fucking monorail! Like waiting for a subway train early Sunday morning. When we finally made it in a packed car the parade was half over and we couldn't even get onto mainstreet. Had to walk behind it in the backlot which looks like the back of a strip mall. A total dick wilter.

So Iger can make over a million a year and they've gotten very short staffed. But Disney fanatics don't give a fuck. They're total bottoms. Fuck 'em all you want.

The monorails at Disneyland have always broken down in hot weather- that evidently has always been an issue.

As for being "trapped" on a ride, if you are just in line there is always a way to leave if you don't want to wait.

Talk about bottoms!

[quote]I don't see how the new skyway from the value resorts to the theme parks is going to be in any way efficient. You're going to have thousands of people wanting to use them at the same time and they'll have limited capacity.

I think from a practical standpoint, the only people who are going to use it are the guests staying at the various hotels that the line services (Caribbean Beach has 2100, Art of Animation has 1000, Pop Century has 2800, and the new Riviera is going to have about 300), so call that 25K guests if every room is filled with quad occupancy, and every single one of them is going to want to go to either Hollywood Studios or Epcot at the same time before those numbers translate into a huge bottleneck. And the only other people who feed into that are what I imagine are the rare people who want to go between the two parks.

I doubt they would be sinking so much money into this construction if they didn't think it was going to be something guests want and will tolerate.

A list of the Disney parks, lands and attractions that were never built

Even the Disneyland Monorail, which opened in 1959, leaves the park and runs alongside Harbor Boulevard, in full view of many other businesses and a rather unattractive view of traffic. It then cut across the parking lot (now the site of DCA) on its way to the Disneyland Hotel.

So Walt himself had no problem with guests seeing "beyond the berm" in the case of the Monorail. You board the Monorail in the idealized world of Disneyland, then a minute later you are looking at ugly motels, strip malls and traffic, even today. It kind of shatters the "immersive experience," in my opinion. But Walt was fine with it.

Yes, R464, I remember there were a lot of complaints about DCA when it opened in 2001 (now referred to on some sites as "DCA 1.0." One complaint was that you could see outside the park, including a couple of hotels next to the park, power lines, etc. The "real world" intruded, as opposed to at Disneyland, where you're mostly insulated from it by the berm.

That park was basically Michael Eisner's baby, and it was criticized for a lack of imagination, too much concrete and for having been done "on the cheap." Some of the attractions were basically off-the-shelf carnival rides, given a Disney coat of paint. There was a low number of quality "E ticket" level attractions. Yet they were charging the same price to get in it as it was to get into Disneyland, but it was only "half a park." Since then, the company has made additions and improvements to DCA (at a cost of over $1 billion).

Wish they had nicer merchandise.

If you are inside the Haunted Mansion right where they load the buggies and it stops please tell me how do you get out?

Clearly somebody who has never been on the ride and has no idea what they are talking about. Also I was reading about Pirates always breaking down. This has never happened to me but a friend told me it happened to her, they turned on all the lights and they had to walk out.

Also I go back a ways and the monorails never broke down, they were always a smooth fast comfortable way of getting around. Also when it stops for no reason and you are between stops the smell of urine reeks. Not something I've experienced but again it was reported. I I have been seeing on a lot of videos of people complaining about the lack of reliability. I can confirm this. It wasn't always this way.

Disney pays it's CEO about133 million a year when there had to be quite a fight recently to raise the minimum raise. Remember years ago when Eisner gave his friend Ovitz a job for a year to do nothing and handed him 30 million? God knows what it would be worth today. The Magic Kingdom has no nighttime parade except for holiday nights. The evening parade was always an event leading up to the fireworks. Why don't they have one now? Too cheap. Also they now have late magic hours. The park closes at 9 so for $100 you have 3 hours to the park with a very small crowd. $100 for 3 hours? This seems absurd to me. It used to be either the day guests got those hours or at least resort guests. Now they want more money. They used to have during the summer 'Magic Till Midnight.' This meant the park was open to everyone till midnight with no extra charge.

One thing I really don't understand is the big thing with adults wanting pictures with characters. Before it was a children's thing. Parents were in it as part of a family or possibly you ran into Mickey on the street. Now adults will wait up to an hour to get a picture with the 7 dwarfs or Captain hook and have no children. I find this really strange.

They used to have nice cheap ceramics. I only know this because a sister told me I once a long time ago bought ceramics of some of their princesses that were so beautiful. They had to have been pretty affordable or I never would have bought them.

Also I heard they got rid of the Animal Kingdom parade. I saw it years ago not knowing they even have one. I just happened upon it. It was terrific. Budget cuts.

Translation: Iger got an increase in stock options..

Eisnerland is a poisoned well.

R491, actually I have a pass and was just at Disneyland Friday. Sometimes if a ride breaks down, they make an announcement and give you an option to leave. If you were pre- boarding Haunted, you look for a cast member and they will escort you out. There are plenty of doors everyplace- you just don't always notice them, even with the exit signs.

At WDW there are very few cast members and good luck finding one when they pack hundreds of people into one place where people can barely move. Then everything stops. No general public announcement is made and you're like how do I get out of here. Of course if you are on an outside line it's a different thing. I remember somebody complaining about being trapped on one of the internal queues at 7 Dwarfs Mine roller coaster. They couldn't get out and they couldn't see a cast member.

On the vlogs I see Disneyland gets much better marks than the Magic Kingdom. Disney fanatics who go regularly to both parks prefer it.

Yes, well I was speaking about Disneyland. Once was enough for me at WDW.

I was stuck once on a ride line and just barged my way backwards.

Remember in the HM by the time you get to the buggies you would have to fight your way through the packed queue, fight the crowd leaving the stretching room to get into it, endure that routine, then fight the crowd entering it to leave it...oy.

Well, not really. There are plenty of cast members to let you out before the stretching room. At least at Disneyland. There's a door that goes directly out to the graveyard.

y’all are some whiny bitches. if the monorail breaks down that’s one thing, but there are emergency exits EVERYWHERE on the attractions. just suck face with your beau until the cast members can feed the squirrels.

A beau? Yes we always go on Disney vacations in antebellum gowns with parasols to protect our moonlight white skin from the sun. Especially needed in Toy Story Land where Disney Imagineers imagined there'd be no sun so there is no shade anywhere. Also no place to sit.

What about that broken-down abomination that is Tomorrow Land? Too much concrete, a long closed People Mover that hadn't been repurposed. Total demo is the only hope there.

Not enough gay Imagineers. Everything would be so much better with them. Tomorrowland would actually look like a future we'd like, things like trees and share wouldn't be overlooked. The monorails wouldn't look like they're permanently in the 1980s and their concrete pylons would be regularly power washed to eliminate rust and airborne pollution stains.

We have higher IQs.

Dirty pillo... Pylons.

things like trees and shade*

Free trips for fraus.

[quote]Sunday AM thoughts: There’s something about having a child that let’s you experience everything all over again. Happiest place on earth, through our daughter’s eyes— it can’t get any better than this ✨ Thank you Marvin, thank you @Disneyland!! #throwback #happiestplaceonearth

As I'm on the opposite coast I haven't been to Disneyland in years. But how could they have fucked up the people mover so royally by repurposing it for a thrill ride it wasn't built for? I mean how stupid could these ride engineers and designers be?

Then instead of rebuilding it they let the tracks sit there to rot and become an eyesore?

Why can't they just build it over again because people loved it so much?

They can't because that would cost money and we know Disney has no money.

Had Disneyland left the People Mover, it would be grandfathered in. It no longer meets Cal Osha standards.

And there are plenty of gay Imageneers. There have been great proposals, they just aren't approved.

Tony Baxter is straight?

R506 How does he do an em-dash on his phone?

R510 here. You hold down the dash until it gives you choices.

They couldn't rebuild People Mover to current standards?

No, or they would have long ago. The entire concrete support needs to be removed or repurposed for something else.

[quote]They couldn't rebuild People Mover to current standards?

They would have to do it from scratch. The conversion to Rocket Rods damaged the track. They'd never spent that kind of money on something that is only appealing to the fanboys. And I count myself as one of those, for the record.

It's not just fanboys, and it was an effective way to move crowds around- big mistake on their part.

One of the Imageneers said they were considering bringing back the Skyway. But really no money is being spent until Star Wars is done.

I was under the impression everyone loved People Mover. It's a respite from the crowded rushed atmosphere in other parts of the park. And classic Disney like Carousel of Progress and It's a Small World. Nothing exciting but very comforting and pleasurable.

[quote]One of the Imageneers said they were considering bringing back the Skyway. But really no money is being spent until Star Wars is done.

I think they'd have a really hard time getting the Skyway to be ADA compliant.

I don't really care about the individual rides so much as news about new parks. So I rarely get news about that.

If Disney's your thing, good on ya, but I cannot wrap my head around adults who worship the mouse and the rest of his kingdom. For the money you spend there you could go to Europe.

Obama weighs in.

If I ever meet Obama, at least we have s story in common. I was thrown out for drinking.

I could never understand why they removed the skyways except for the fact that since the 70s Disney tourists on the whole have gotten so fat they weren't built to carry those heavy loads. They'd have to rebuild them entirely.

I read that they had to rebuild the waterways in Pirates because the boats were sinking down in the water more than they did originally.

But then that would have affected Peter Pan and Small World as well.

It was Small World that needed new boats, not Pirates or the waterways.

Yeah, the Small Worlds boats used to be three across and now they're two.

Disney committed to building a third park at the Paris resort at the time it negotiated with the French government, but the studio park there is still a disaster.

Iger and Macron. Re the third park.

So the Paris park is still having trouble? I thought it had turned into a huge success. Or is it just the Magic Kingdom part that is a success?

In an article I found on Wired from 2007 it says Pirates was having the same problem as Small World and the flume(what I meant when I said waterway) was going to be made an inch deeper on Small World.

Also according to the article when the problem was first noticed the boats were not filled to capacity especially if fat people got on the boats but the overall increased weight of people was still causing problems.

Now 11 years later are people even fatter than they were in 2007?

Steve Porter discussed above talked once about having worked on Buzz Light Year.

It was disgusting what went on in the cars and made you never want to go on the ride again.

R529, like what?

Like little kids pissing and throwing up. They had to continually clean the seats and do everything possible to get rid of the smell.

I got bored at work and actually started reading about the possibility of bringing Wakanda to Epcot. Apparently, this may result in a renegotiation with Universal. There is one small piece of artwork at IoA that depicts T'Challa, so that may prevent them from using him, even though it's an overall tiny presence there.

However, if they can't reach an agreement, the rumor is they're going to redo the Wonders of Life space as an Innoventions type technology expo, host by Shuri. I'm hoping they'll be able to work it out.

I wish they'd bring back the mule ride, but all the weight Americans have gained since the 60s would probably kill the poor beasts.

R533, how old are you?

Just wondering who likes mule rides and using the word "beast."

They don't have room for animals. The few left are trucked in.

I wish they had built the Western River Expedition instead of the incredibly dopey Splash Mountain. A pathetic homage to a wonderful film.

As a kid I remember in the Magic Kingdom they had a model diorama on display announcing it as a future attraction and I was really looking forward to it.

Since then I'll go on something like Winnie the Poo or the Little Mermaid once and think well I never need to do that again.

Great thread

They have consumer products issues. Low quality, bad design. They're too permissive in licensing. J.K. Rowling is infinitely more careful and it shows. It's been a weak spot in earnings for Disney.

Really getting Into Disney gay porn.

Mickey's fucking goofy.

Disney's consumer products division has sucked for years. Too many desision makers that don't know know the characters or what people want. They succeed only because Disney is so popular and people will buy anything.

Nice but the cock veins and the elaborate cum sprays clutter the image around the cocks.

Supposedly the men who created Snow White also made a porn version. A well known film historian whose name now escapes me saw it and refused to discuss it.

I guess he wished he had never watched it.

Q What's red and has seven dents?

A Snow White's cherry

Oh, Snow was misnamed for sure. She was a whore, darlin'.

I used to be Snow White, but I drifted.

I hope they make Elsa's love interest a really hot guy.

Like hotter than even Prince Hans, Flynn Rider, or Prince Eric. With an even more beautiful voice than Hans's.

Can't imagine whom they'd cast for his voice.

They have a new male voice.

Apparently, the long term plans for the Skyliner involve connecting Animal Kingdom, the water parks, and Disney Springs. Each gondola can hold a max of eight people (well, four Americans), and it will run continuously, so it shouldn't bottleneck any more than the monorail does at peak times. Cheaper than extending the monorail (much faster to construct, as well) and more direct and with less pollution than the busses.

8 people in a gondola when thousands of people will be waiting for them at peak times and a number will be so fat they'll have to use scooters in the parks. And all those wretched children in them.

This should be interesting.

Yougov UK poll re gay Elsa.

A bit of Guardian crazy re Disney.

I don't give a shit about Frozen.

I want to know if James Macarthur, Tommy Kirk and John Mills were getting it on in the secluded Caribbean waters during the filming of Swiss Family Robinson.

Apparently the new rumor is that Zootopia will be coming to Animal Kingdom, replacing the soon-to-close Rafiki's Planet Watch.

Tommy Kirk took James, John and most of the crew. He was wearing a diaper by the end of filming.

10 more days 'til Gay Days Anaheim!

Gay Days used to be great- no kids and great drugs. Now it's borderline frauen with lesbian baster babies and fagela that bought kids in China on the cheap (just like Disney merch).

They should split Gay Days between the parks, with singles in one and families in the other.

They are planning a 21 and over night once Star Wars Land opens, since they will have a bar there.

But there's already a bar in the Studios.

Booked me a trip. Not until December next year, which I hope will be in time for Galaxy's Edge to be open. Staying at Port Orleans French Quarter.

Never stayed on property before.

r561 make sure your room is not adjacent to a stairwell. i’ve never heard such thundering water buffalo.

Wow, you booked that far in advance.

In the entire history of Disneyworld next Christmas with the holiday, the opening of Galaxy's Edge and the new gondola skyway I imagine will be the worst time ever to be there.

I was told they are booking for Jan 2020 which makes more sense in that it will be after the holiday and they'll have worked out a number of kinks that every new venture involves.

The announcement for Galaxy's Edge said "Late Fall 2019," so I'm rolling the dice. The Skyliner is probably sooner than that. They seem to be going faster than expected, and someone took photos that showed that they're starting to hang the gondolas.

I'm going this Christmas to avoid what is going to be next year's hell. I just talked to someone who came back who told me there is construction everywhere. Pete Werner who has a travel agency and a vlog Dis Unplugged is calling it Walt Disney Construction World. And then after Galaxy's Edge is completed they'll finish Tron.

It will be a few years before the crowds settle down and it will be tolerable again. At least I'm hoping. It might never be again as it is already so crowded year round.

[quote]Pete Werner who has a travel agency and a vlog Dis Unplugged is calling it Walt Disney Construction World. And then after Galaxy's Edge is completed they'll finish Tron.

Yeah, there's a LOT going on construction wise. Guardians of the Galaxy and Ratatouille at Epcot, Galaxy's Edge and the Mickey coaster AND the new Cars thing they just announced at the Studios. The Tron ride is going to start work soon, because the WDW railroad and Tomorrowland Speedway are shutting down soon. The NBA Experience is replacing DisneyQuest at Disney Springs and they're always building new restaurants there. And in addition to the Skyliner construction at the Art of Animation, Pop Century, Epcot, and Studios, they're doing massive work on Caribbean Beach and Coronado Springs.

They'll probably slow down after 2020, though. This is a big push to get them to the 50th anniversary in 2021.

Which means I'll hope to go back in 2022 to see all the new stuff. I'm not a Star Wars or Tron fan but the immersive rides and theme park concepts are fun.

But as Pete was saying with all the money they are spending expect the possibility of $200 a day theme park tickets in a year or two with the new flexible pricing they'll be implementing mid Oct. What Star Wars fan wouldn't pay it and Disney has never been shy about raising prices to extortionist levels. People will pay it so why shouldn't they?

There is a POV of Tron in Shanghai on youtube. Looks spectacular but it seems especially short.

[quote]Pete Werner who has a travel agency and a vlog Dis Unplugged is calling it Walt Disney Construction World.

They should call it Roller Coaster World. It seems like they have run out of ideas for innovative rides. Now everything new is a thrill ride, usually some form of roller coaster. It stinks that they don't do more with shows and mild rides.

The Na'Vi River Journey dark ride has proved to be almost as popular as Flight of Passage. The Ratatouille ride coming to Epcot France is also a dark ride.

If Galaxy's Edge opens...say, Mid November, I wonder what it's going to do to the crowds in what is traditionally the slower season in the two weeks after Thanksgiving. I know you'll have more people there, but will it be summer-like crowds? Or will people just gravitate towards GE and not change any traffic to the other parks.

I'm wondering if they're going to need separate tickets to Galaxy's Edge. I mean there were lines just to get into Toy Story Land within the Hollywood Studios park when it opened and this was nothing compared to what Galaxy's Edge will be like. Also I believe the spillover from all the additional visitors will affect the other parks as well.

I've never heard about this before, and frankly, it sounds AWESOME.

From today. Comprehensive article about Disney park expansions, with nice graphics and videos.

I'm going to accept that I will never be able to afford the Star Wars hotel.

Since it's been Christmas at WDW since the beginning of November, I've been watching some of the holiday live stuff on YouTube. The things they do with light projection on Cinderella Castle and Tower of Terror is amazing.

It's amazing at Disneyland too.

The downside being that because the technology is so good (seriously, if it's that good on YouTube, it must be jaw-dropping in person), they're starting to get away from doing shows with actual fireworks. The forthcoming replacement for IllumniNations is apparently going to primarily use drones.

R578, I'm actually OK with getting rid of fireworks. They scare animals.

Nice ass. I saw this in another thread. I'm going to try to jerk to this LOL.

LOLOL!!!. I meant this.

a friend I have has a season ticket pass to Disneyland. Him and his husband. They go every monday, less crowd. and always post pictures esp during the different holidays and it's nice to see the decorations.

In college, I had dorm mates who were dancers and wanted to be disney dancers in the parade etc. They went to NYC for dance auditions. I tagged along on the trips. They didn't get it. Eventually they stayed in their hometowns while I moved to NYC.

At least at Disneyland, the fireworks are cancelled quite a bit due to weather, especially on windy nights. Anaheim FD has to be on site. With all of our fires, I wouldn't be surprised if they did away with them.

A seventh resort is ‘an inevitability’

Robert A. Iger, Disney’s chief executive, told analysts in May that there was “an inevitability” to Disney’s building a seventh theme park resort in China or another country, although he cautioned that no plans were on the horizon.

“But we’re going to look,” he said. Mr. Iger’s bullishness reflects the strong response to Shanghai Disneyland, which opened in 2016 at a cost of $5.5 billion. With its growing middle class, China is a particularly important growth market for Disney.

Even so, a couple of Disney’s older overseas parks have never lived up to their promise, and Mr. Iger wants to fix those headaches once and for all. That’s one reason Hong Kong Disneyland is undergoing a $1.4 billion expansion, with half of the bill paid by the local government, which is a co-owner.

The Hong Kong park, which opened in 2005, has lost money for three years running, in part because of a regional tourism slump. To turn the property around, Disney is adding two “Avengers”-themed attractions; building the entire “Frozen” kingdom of Arendelle, with two icicle-covered rides; and supersizing the park’s castle.

I had to think for a minute what they meant by "7th":

1. Disneyland Resort

2. Walt Disney World

3. Tokyo Disney Resort

4. Disneyland Paris (they changed the name of the whole resort, and now the first park is called Disneyland Park)

5. Hong Kong Disneyland Resort

6. Shanghai Disney Resort

The names are so different from each other.

So many parks. I can't imagine anywhere else they'd build.

Saudi resort. Insanity.

I think the idea of a resort in Saudi Arabia is probably off the table for the foreseeable future. I'm kind of surprised they would have considered it at all; I don't believe any Disneyland Dubai was in the offing, and indeed they put the kibosh on a planned Marvel theme park when they bought the company.

The IllumiNations replacement is going to be focused on Disney music and characters, which is hardly surprising. But they're ending the former early and having a temp replacement called Epcot Forever, which I'm betting is in part a wake for the Epcot of old, because it's going to be using music from the park's history. I'm glad I'm going to be there to see it. They've also added a new show to the Studios focused on animation. I'm happy it's something focused movies for once.

I'd forgotten just how good the score to IllumiNations is. ABC used to use parts of it for some of their news coverage.

It's going to be another resort in East Asia —probably China again, in the Beijing area. Disney has an excellent relationship with the government, and it makes sense: Hong Kong is way south, Shanghai is in the middle, and Beijing is north. They're going to have to make it somewhat resilient to colder weather, however, like Tokyo Disney Resort.

The thing is, though, I can't imagine they're going to start with another kingdom park. That'll make four in East Asia, where there's just one in the EU and just two in America. Maybe they'll start with a studio/movies park, since there are only two of those, in Paris and Florida. Or maybe an Epcot-style park, bringing the Americas, Europe, and Africa to middle class guests who've never been to any of those places. Or maybe they have an entirely new park concept to build (can't imagine what, tough).

I always thought they'd build in South Korea, since they have money and love theme parks and Disney.

I hate all the Disney IP at DIsney parks. Old Epcot was an oasis that provided a Disney experience without all the cartoon characters at every turn.

I agree, r591.

I love the use of IP at the parks. The Frozen ride at the Norway pavilion is a huge improvement.

China isn't great given its an authoritarian regime, but Saudi Arabia would be far worse. Might as well build in Iran or Belarus. Or Russia.

I'd boycott Disney if they decided to build a park in Saudi Arabia or almost anywhere in the Middle East, actually.

... It's* an authoritarian...

The new HK castle is going to be gorgeous. Mostly. Love the color. Especially the gold roof.

Went to Disneyland today. It is gorgeous, the whole thing sparkles. They made fake snow (it felt like soap bubbles) that smelled like cinnamon.

[quote]I'd boycott Disney if they decided to build a park in Saudi Arabia or almost anywhere in the Middle East, actually.

I would too. Should we make a new thread?

Disneyland was built from IP.

I am a Disneyland freak. With that said, I just want to be r600.