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Glamorous gay couple who were found dead in their $1.5million Houston PART II

New thread.

by Anonymousreply 466September 25, 2018 1:41 PM

Here's Part I

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by Anonymousreply 1May 10, 2018 10:56 PM

Have we yet found any nude photos of Benjamin Ruiz? Or more photos at least of him in swimwear or underwear?

by Anonymousreply 2May 10, 2018 11:12 PM

1 million dollar home fat whore.

by Anonymousreply 3May 10, 2018 11:54 PM

Glad as predicted someone who knew one of the men posted here. This trajedy / murder / crime is disturbing to me, a stranger, on several levels. First that young, fit, successful and well regarded man could murder his soon to be ex partner and later husband without any thought to a future and new start like half the population has faced before. Second that there was such extreme hostility at the end, joint restraining orders where once life was enviable to almost any gay man much past his teens or twenties. Also that so much anger and rage in someone who aparently had friends who could have listened or reasoned had they known how much animosity was in the air was non existent. When I looked at photos inside home I imagined how much thought and hours of time went into decorating a murder crime scene.

by Anonymousreply 4May 11, 2018 3:39 AM

To insiders, when's the funeral?

by Anonymousreply 5May 11, 2018 4:00 AM

R4, thank you for a mature response.

by Anonymousreply 6May 11, 2018 5:06 AM

YOUNG?!?

52 may not be elderly, but it is decidedly not "young."

by Anonymousreply 7May 11, 2018 5:24 AM

youngish

by Anonymousreply 8May 11, 2018 5:27 AM

Very disturbing that police still don't know why this murder-suicide happened!

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by Anonymousreply 9May 11, 2018 5:35 AM

I love r542 in the first thread attributing this to Latin American tempers. The guys name was Ben Marshall. Just because he took Ruiz as his married name doesn't make him Latin American.

by Anonymousreply 10May 11, 2018 5:35 AM

God help me for asking. What was the point of the 1 dormer window above 2nd floor? Any Architects caare to comment?

by Anonymousreply 11May 11, 2018 5:51 AM

Thank you OP.

by Anonymousreply 12May 11, 2018 5:55 AM

[quote]r11 What was the point of the 1 dormer window above 2nd floor? Any Architects caare to comment?

It's where they put the revolving red light, on Orgy Nights.

by Anonymousreply 13May 11, 2018 7:35 AM

Are they still dead?

by Anonymousreply 14May 11, 2018 9:25 AM

"52 myself"

20 years ago

by Anonymousreply 15May 11, 2018 9:27 AM

The sleek, stylish swimming pool with the seedy commercial building on the other side of the hedge makes me giggle.

by Anonymousreply 16May 11, 2018 9:53 AM

R11, I wonder that, too! Sticks out like a sore peen.

by Anonymousreply 17May 11, 2018 10:00 AM

R11, conspicuous construction

by Anonymousreply 18May 11, 2018 10:05 AM

Gay men are inherently unstable and though a relationship can help them with purpose as they age it also feeds into their neurosis and lack of true social regard. Two men compete with each other, even when in love. Gay men ultimately only care about their sexual viability and money to indulge their particular social desires and aspirations. It's a hedonistic life given some meaning by the illusion of struggle. Gay marriage was a bad idea, because a lasting monogamous gay marriage is more rare than a black president. This murder/suicide is the result of what all gay couples fight about. Sexual competition and tacky personal possessions.

by Anonymousreply 19May 11, 2018 10:10 AM

I’m sorry, but the house is hideous. And it gives one insight into the mind or minds of the two men who who occupied its environs.

People generally kill for four reasons: 1) accidentally, 2) self defense, 3) love/passion/broken heart, 4) money.

I’m not sure if Benjamin killed for the last two, of the reasons listed above, but I’d wager that those were his motives. People also kill for revenge, but revenge homicides are pretty rare.

I suspect Benjamin was hopped up on meth, cocaine, or just drunk as fuck.

Both of them could have bounced back from the divorce, and could have continued on without one another. It’s a shame that Benjamin didn’t see things that way.

The only good part to this story is that no children were brought into the marriage via surrogacy or adoption, and no one has to grow up wondering why their parents died such an awful death.

by Anonymousreply 20May 11, 2018 11:42 AM

They gave great parties. After every formal parties, they always had the hottest orgies! René was the center of the orgies with huge thick cock!

by Anonymousreply 21May 11, 2018 6:05 PM

While I agree with the predominating opinion that the house is nothing to look at from the outside, I have to say that there were several rooms which seemed quite nicely done to me.

by Anonymousreply 22May 11, 2018 9:08 PM

I'm so glad to see the dormer window weighing in on this.

R12, thanks for your thanks.

by Anonymousreply 23May 11, 2018 9:48 PM

Definitely would do something different for $1.5 million. It’s neither here not there. Not classic and not modern. The dreaded “transitional” mish mash .

by Anonymousreply 24May 11, 2018 11:40 PM

The only one saying this was a "$1.5 million" house was the realtor who was trying to sell it. Let's see what it actually sells for.

by Anonymousreply 25May 12, 2018 12:25 AM

The house is McMansion-adjacent, at best. And why no bloody landscaping? Tsk tsk

by Anonymousreply 26May 12, 2018 1:28 AM

R19, you’re single aren’t you.

by Anonymousreply 27May 12, 2018 1:35 AM

The interior of their home was considered the Versailles of Houston. An invitation to their home was prized in Houston.

by Anonymousreply 28May 12, 2018 6:48 AM

Doubtless.

by Anonymousreply 29May 12, 2018 8:17 AM

Why is thread 2 dying out? Has the DL news cycle moved on from the glamorous gay couple murder-suicide already?

by Anonymousreply 30May 12, 2018 2:11 PM

What more news is there?

I still have questions, which I am not sure will ever be answered:

Who sent the worrisome texts to their fat friend and what was the content of said texts?

Who is Rene’s new piece?

Was Ben on drugs when he murdered Rene?

Why that supersalient dormer window in the attic?

by Anonymousreply 31May 12, 2018 2:49 PM

R28, Did you know them or go to parties at their house? What are people who knew them saying or thinking?

by Anonymousreply 32May 12, 2018 3:44 PM

r20, why would you want Benjamin to RIP? He's a murderer!

by Anonymousreply 33May 12, 2018 3:51 PM

I think we're all waiting for 130 from the original thread to attend the funeral and report back.

by Anonymousreply 34May 12, 2018 5:02 PM

R25 if you read the threads, pompous cunt, you'd know the house is listed for 1M.

by Anonymousreply 35May 12, 2018 5:10 PM

if YOU read the threads, R35, you pompous cunt, you'd see the headline says 1.5M. As does every report on this.

by Anonymousreply 36May 12, 2018 5:35 PM

This is the reason for the dormer window

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by Anonymousreply 37May 12, 2018 5:55 PM

The police need to CHECK THAT ATTIC. The dormer window is trying to tell us that the real killer is still up there.

by Anonymousreply 38May 12, 2018 5:56 PM

Okay, I can understand that love ends, people break-up, people are sad. But why KILL someone then kill YOURSELF?

Didn't Dateline teach anybody that you hire a hitman then collect the insurance? Or just shoot him then wound yourself, and make it look like a home invasion (inheritance)?

by Anonymousreply 39May 12, 2018 6:33 PM

r39 Because he's beyond that, he wants no one else to have his lover either and wants to be out of here, very dramatic but better than those assholes that you refer to that shoot themselves in the arm but shoot the others fatally.

by Anonymousreply 40May 12, 2018 6:58 PM

[quote]The interior of their home was considered the Versailles of Houston.

The Versailles of Houston? Oh come on....I'm sure Houston has hundreds of homes with over-the-top interiors that would put that one to shame..

by Anonymousreply 41May 12, 2018 7:32 PM

R37, I knew Ben was one of those Burnt Offerings queens the second I saw him.

by Anonymousreply 42May 12, 2018 7:38 PM

Are we happy these two are dead?

by Anonymousreply 43May 12, 2018 8:45 PM

Lile R19. How is that person not red tagged?

by Anonymousreply 44May 12, 2018 8:47 PM

Haven't seen any new red tags in several weeks. Plus he probably got some W&Ws from that, based on the current climate around these parts.

by Anonymousreply 45May 12, 2018 8:54 PM

Isn't Houston also the home base of the Bush Crime Family?

by Anonymousreply 46May 12, 2018 8:59 PM

R28 That's not true. There are plenty of old-money mansions in Houston, in the River Oaks, Memorial and Tanglewood neighborhoods.

Their little McMansion on that forlorn-looking street did not inspire awe in anyone. Or a desire to visit it.

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by Anonymousreply 47May 12, 2018 9:05 PM

I don't know about the inside of that double death house, but the outside, to me, could not look more sterile and cold.

by Anonymousreply 48May 12, 2018 9:06 PM

True r36 but OP's an idiot who repeated the error in this thread's title. However, if you read the threads, cunt, you'd know the house has benn listed for 1M not 1.5.

by Anonymousreply 49May 12, 2018 11:24 PM

Houston just looks like the heights of glamour to me!

by Anonymousreply 50May 12, 2018 11:31 PM

R50 Well, it lacks the Trumpian glamour that NYC is famous for.

by Anonymousreply 51May 12, 2018 11:42 PM

I have been to parties at their home and interior was beautiful and looked like it belonged in Architectual Digest.

by Anonymousreply 52May 12, 2018 11:53 PM

Oh brother, if you think any homes in AD are worth even 1.5 million, I have a bridge to sell you...

by Anonymousreply 53May 13, 2018 12:05 AM

Here's my $.02 on the house and its interiors: I would bet good money that there was not one single house in Houston of an equal price point which was as beautifully done. Sure, those River Oaks mansions would outshine it, but for 1.5 mill, it looked damn good inside.

by Anonymousreply 54May 13, 2018 12:33 AM

[quote]r48 I don't know about the inside of that double death house, but the outside, to me, could not look more sterile and cold.

Their MARRIAGE had gone sterile and cold, It seeped into their design choices,

by Anonymousreply 55May 13, 2018 12:50 AM

The house actually has two dormers.

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by Anonymousreply 56May 13, 2018 1:07 AM

Maybe they [italic] each [/italic] used one, to keep on the lookout for fresh meat?

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by Anonymousreply 57May 13, 2018 1:12 AM

WHAT IS IN THE ATTIC!

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by Anonymousreply 58May 13, 2018 1:14 AM

So much fuss about the mysterious attic that we’ve neglected the Fonzie apartment above the garage.

The WHET Baby Jane gate in the driveway looks all the more preposterous with the modest ranch home in view next door.

I’ll confess, I’m envious that they lived almost next to the Costco.

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by Anonymousreply 59May 13, 2018 2:00 AM

[italic]House of Evil, House of Tears...

by Anonymousreply 60May 13, 2018 2:19 AM

Goddamn it, they have two dormer windows of different styles, one rounded, one square!

Who does that? Did an architect do that? Did they design it themselves?

by Anonymousreply 61May 13, 2018 2:39 AM

Was there any kind of backyard? Was there a pool?

by Anonymousreply 62May 13, 2018 4:11 AM

[quote]R61 Goddamn it, they have two dormer windows of different styles, one rounded, one square! Who does that?

I know it's hard to view shocking crime scenes like this.

Breathe...

by Anonymousreply 63May 13, 2018 4:39 AM

R56 ty for sharing. R61, I agree, no disrespect to designer who did make a nice house. This reminds me of homes going into established neighborhoods nrar The Grove and Crescent Heights in Los Angeles. They did create a beautiful home. So sad and tragic as stated by many above. River Oaks makes Beverly Hills and the Hamptons look pedestrian and Green Acres territory.

by Anonymousreply 64May 13, 2018 4:45 AM

Also, why is that window on the square dormer so small and oriented horizontally when all other windows of the house are vertical? It's like they went to a u-pull-it graveyard for house fittings and bought whatever the hell they saw.

R63, thanks. I'm trying.

by Anonymousreply 65May 13, 2018 4:54 AM

[quote]R65 It's like they went to a u-pull-it graveyard for house fittings

Originally, I thought it might have been an argument over wallpaper that sparked the killing.

Now I wonder if it was these windows.

by Anonymousreply 66May 13, 2018 4:58 AM

While we critique their house design, I hope a clearer picture emerges as to why 22 year relationship ends in murder/suicide be two men who were both healthy functioning in their careers and looking "fabulous" stylish to coworkers neighbors and friends????

by Anonymousreply 67May 13, 2018 5:55 AM

Maybe he was a fuckhead and maybe he had a cunt on the side?

by Anonymousreply 68May 13, 2018 5:58 AM

[quote]R68 Maybe he was a fuckhead and maybe he had a cunt on the side?

The latter has been established, Betty.

All that's left is to find him.

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by Anonymousreply 69May 13, 2018 6:05 AM

R56, from that angle, if you kind of squint, the two windows are the eyes of a huge malign house-frog, with the lower edge of the black roof the wide mouth. Makes me think of the Thurber cartoon in which some shnook is entering a house-woman.

by Anonymousreply 70May 13, 2018 6:09 AM

Murder suicides are equal opportunity tragedies. Why is everyone obsessing about the fact they are gay? What does that have to do with anything? Aren't we beyond 80's warped homophobia????

It's undiagnosed mental illness and over availability of guns

by Anonymousreply 71May 13, 2018 6:24 AM

It's the glamma.

by Anonymousreply 72May 13, 2018 6:29 AM

I don't think anyone is obsessing over them being gay r71, at least not here, we are wondering the usual, was the side piece hot? etc.

by Anonymousreply 73May 13, 2018 6:34 AM

And who was hung.

by Anonymousreply 74May 13, 2018 6:36 AM

Bitches be tripping....

by Anonymousreply 75May 13, 2018 6:40 AM

Why was René not in the family Christmas portrait?

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by Anonymousreply 76May 13, 2018 7:03 AM

omg, is that the killer r76? Damn it, I hope he was slapped viciously before he shot his husband.

by Anonymousreply 77May 13, 2018 7:07 AM

I do not understand what happened. Benji loved René!

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by Anonymousreply 78May 13, 2018 7:08 AM

R77, You should go ti befunning of this thresd and click on 1sr link. Multiple pictures there...

by Anonymousreply 79May 13, 2018 7:09 AM

[quote]R76 Why was René not in the family Christmas portrait?

He was detained at the Motel 6

by Anonymousreply 80May 13, 2018 7:13 AM

Is this the back yard of their home?

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by Anonymousreply 81May 13, 2018 7:14 AM

R70, I get it!

by Anonymousreply 82May 13, 2018 7:17 AM

Was there a lot of rimming?

by Anonymousreply 83May 13, 2018 8:50 AM

That room at R76 is so hilariously pretentious.

The faux European villa decor has no relation to the architecture of the house.

Every piece of furniture is new, not antique, not heirloom. And ugly. Those clocks might be the real thing... but setting it down on that table looks so stupid and those vases on those pedestals...

The kitschy saccharine romantic landscape paintings are probably knockoffs

The sofa is very nice and the tapestry might be good... but you can throw together a room like this cheaper than it might seem.

by Anonymousreply 84May 13, 2018 9:05 AM

Right at the beginning, this picture convinced me that Benjamin was the one who did it:

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by Anonymousreply 85May 13, 2018 9:43 AM

Rene had sad eyes.

by Anonymousreply 86May 13, 2018 9:48 AM

Why does '62' look more than 72?

by Anonymousreply 87May 13, 2018 12:41 PM

Ben had L’eggs for days! Now they are forever gone! RIP you gorgeous pair of pins!

by Anonymousreply 88May 13, 2018 12:54 PM

So what happens to their Instagram accounts? They just stay up forever when some dies?

by Anonymousreply 89May 13, 2018 1:03 PM

R89 who is going to deactivate it? I have a dead friend on FB and her profile is still up 6 years later.

by Anonymousreply 90May 13, 2018 1:07 PM

R90 HIs sister should deactivate his accounts. Or may his nieces from The Shining.

by Anonymousreply 91May 13, 2018 1:18 PM

R91 - well done! The Shining girls were the first thing I thought when I saw that photo!

by Anonymousreply 92May 13, 2018 1:44 PM

The great shame of living in Texas - Houston, at that - finally became too much for them. Benjamin acted bravely. It had to be done.

by Anonymousreply 93May 13, 2018 2:00 PM

R93 No. It was the idea of living in a city without Barbara Bush that pushed him over the edge.

by Anonymousreply 94May 13, 2018 2:07 PM

R76, it looks like Aaron Schock decorated that room.

by Anonymousreply 95May 13, 2018 6:13 PM

What an ugly, faux, chintzy photograph. Do rich Texans not realize how ridiculous they look?

by Anonymousreply 96May 13, 2018 6:18 PM

R95? You forgot to add "cockgobbler"!! I almost didn't recognize the name without it. Shame on you!

by Anonymousreply 97May 13, 2018 7:07 PM

Shut your damn mouth, R96!

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by Anonymousreply 98May 13, 2018 7:07 PM

The saddest part that the shooter could not Move on! He had family, career and friends who cared unlike many of us here. The partner probably had cause to "move on" with new boyfriend. Doubt Houston Datalounge posters who knew them or had ideas will post here due to heinousness of crime. Thos is now a Karmic situation for the once lovers of 22 years.

by Anonymousreply 99May 14, 2018 1:40 AM

Their home represented the best of Texas ambiance and decor. Few in Houston had their distinctive sense of style.

by Anonymousreply 100May 14, 2018 1:48 AM

Does anyone know the plans for burial, funeral or memorial services?

by Anonymousreply 101May 14, 2018 1:56 AM

May 15th for Rene, R101.

Rene's obituary at link. No mention of ex in it.

[quote] Rene was a loving son, brother, uncle, and friend. He was known for an infectious smile, roaring laughter, a love of Mexican music and for his dogs, Paco, Annie, Barbie, and Victoria. He enjoyed traveling around the world, especially to his home in Mexico.

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by Anonymousreply 102May 14, 2018 2:05 AM

So sad that René's mom has to bury her murdered son. :(

by Anonymousreply 103May 14, 2018 2:26 AM

How old is Rene's mom--92? I hope she at least has hired diggers for the coffin's hole so she doesn't have to do it herself.

by Anonymousreply 104May 14, 2018 2:32 AM

The obit reads as though Rene was never married and Benjamin never existed.

by Anonymousreply 105May 14, 2018 2:40 AM

Good r105, I am always shocked when I see things like Laci Peterson, for example, tombstones with the name of her murderer on it. He deserves to be scrubbed, the family doesn't want to waste the ink.

by Anonymousreply 106May 14, 2018 2:43 AM

The murder/suicide was probably like Paul Snider's murder of Dorothy Stratten that was followed by his suicide. ben probably just lost it at Rene and killed him out of rage (thus the multiple shots at Rene), and then when he realized what he had done and how fucked he was going to be with a murder charge over his head, and he then did himself in.

I really hope we get a full write-up of this from someone in the know. i would love the full story, and it would have make a great piece for Graydon Carter's Vanity Fair. Unfortunately with this new editor we're just going to get pieces about inspiring people of color from now on.

by Anonymousreply 107May 14, 2018 2:44 AM

Ink on grave stones?

by Anonymousreply 108May 14, 2018 2:44 AM

Ink in the obit, smartass at r108. Papers used to be actually printed with ink and paper, it's just an expression.

by Anonymousreply 109May 14, 2018 2:49 AM

You were talking about tombstones, not obituaries. Or were we supposed to read your mind that you had moved on to obituaries?

by Anonymousreply 110May 14, 2018 2:51 AM

[quote]i would love the full story, and it would have make a great piece for Graydon Carter's Vanity Fair. Unfortunately with this new editor we're just going to get pieces about inspiring people of color from now on.

Eat shit.

by Anonymousreply 111May 14, 2018 3:11 AM

I'd rather just block you, r111.

by Anonymousreply 112May 14, 2018 3:24 AM

I drove by their home this afternoon and it's not as hideous as it looks in the photos. At least not on the outside.

It's much closer to the street than I thought, so the lack of landscaping is not too distracting. It's not as oversized for the lot as I imagined, and the alabaster coloring is striking on a sunny day.

However, the street and neighborhood are far from prestigious, although the homes are way overpriced because of their location. I'm sure that played into this tragedy.

by Anonymousreply 113May 14, 2018 3:29 AM

[quote]R107 The murder/suicide was probably like Paul Snider's murder of Dorothy Stratten

In that, you mean,the killer sodomized the corpse before offing himself?

TMI (!!)

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by Anonymousreply 114May 14, 2018 3:52 AM

R113, thanks for the update.

Were there any flowers outside? (Like, has it been turned into a shrine?) Was it empty? Are there cops or journalists?

by Anonymousreply 115May 14, 2018 4:24 AM

[quote] In that, you mean,the killer sodomized the corpse before offing himself?

No, that's not what i meant. Read my post again.

by Anonymousreply 116May 14, 2018 4:26 AM

R107, don't you just hate it when that happens? There's some perfectly fine publication with stories about Justin Bieber and instagram stars and then a new editor revamps the rag and it's MLK this and Cesar Chavez that. Who gives a fuck about that stuff?

by Anonymousreply 117May 14, 2018 4:36 AM

R113, Did you know of them before the crime? Had you read about parties or seen them in local papers?

by Anonymousreply 118May 14, 2018 4:36 AM

Is Benjamin having a funeral? What was his real last name?

by Anonymousreply 119May 14, 2018 4:46 AM

R118, now and then there'd be a squib about Ben doing some makeup tutorial or Rene contributing to some charity. And they'd be photographed at events.

by Anonymousreply 120May 14, 2018 4:54 AM

Does anyone think that the funeral home's site with the obit and dates of visitation and funeral seemed a bit off with the border of puppies?

I have never seen anything quite like that.

I am considering sending a tasteful floral tribute on behalf of us Data Loungers.

Lilies or something less funereal?

by Anonymousreply 121May 14, 2018 5:54 AM

Has it been revealed who the homewrecking side piece was, who wrought this?

Had he been added to the will and life insurance policies yet?

LET HIM SHOW HIS FACE!

by Anonymousreply 122May 14, 2018 5:55 AM

Someone needs to go to the funeral and see who is dressed in Jackie O. clothes and throws himself on the casket!

by Anonymousreply 123May 14, 2018 5:57 AM

Or 5 of us can just start giving out interviews? The public can VOTE as to who they think is the real one.

by Anonymousreply 124May 14, 2018 6:09 AM

What caused Benji to become a crazed homocidal deranged murderer?

by Anonymousreply 125May 14, 2018 6:29 AM

I think the main thing (as it usually is in those true crime TV shows) had to have been money. The older one was leaving the killer for a younger man, and was taking his assets away with him. Ben was losing the house, their vacations and parties...he'd just be another aging makeup artist, adrift.

Honestly, he sounds like Betty Broderick or any number of spouses who pour their whole identity into a marriage/relationship, and when that falls away....FREAK THE FUCK [italic]OUT! [/italic] They're all exterior (as that ridiculous, vulgar Xmas card shows)

by Anonymousreply 126May 14, 2018 7:00 AM

Yep r126, that's why the gay thing doesn't even matter. It's just another sad case of a spouse being traded in for a younger model.

by Anonymousreply 127May 14, 2018 7:02 AM

The crux might not even have been being [italic]replaced[/italic] (though I'm sure that didn't HELP)

Such people just panic when they feel they're losing everything. They can't live without their dreams. He might have had the same reaction if the husband just said he was breaking up to "find himself".

by Anonymousreply 128May 14, 2018 7:16 AM

What do we think Ben's makeup artist income was?

by Anonymousreply 129May 14, 2018 7:27 AM

Unremarkable. I imagine he was paid decently when he worked, as far as that field's concerned, but it's not like it was some bonanza.

by Anonymousreply 130May 14, 2018 7:36 AM

ITA with R126.

Question. The house looks too tall. Did they hav 12' ceilings on both floors or something? Is that a thing?

by Anonymousreply 131May 14, 2018 8:46 AM

That family Christmas card is beyond creepy, Was it meant to be a joke like those tacky old west photos people get when they go to carnivals? It looks like a studio or movie set with phony props. The kids are costumed and making bored faces on purpose as if to imitate children in a victorian photo. And who sends out joint Christmas cards with their siblings? Even more weird to do it when you're married.

by Anonymousreply 132May 14, 2018 9:02 AM

Rene died for pinga!

by Anonymousreply 133May 14, 2018 9:02 AM

I wonder what happens with the poor pets?!? They had dogs right?

by Anonymousreply 134May 14, 2018 9:53 AM

Ben called this aspirational disaster of a room the "library."

If DL had its own edition of "Clue," this would be it.

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by Anonymousreply 135May 14, 2018 1:55 PM

Rene's funeral is being held in his hometown of San Antonio, about 4 hours west of Houston, on a workday morning. I assume the family wants to keep it small.

by Anonymousreply 136May 14, 2018 2:54 PM

So, no one will wager on the propriety of the dogs on Rene's obituary? Has anyone else even seen it?

It would be different if they were HIS dogs. but they are just generic stand-ins.

I ordered a lovely 5 year old tree to be planted in his honor. From here forward it shall be known as the Rene Ruiz- Data Lounge weeping fig.

by Anonymousreply 137May 14, 2018 4:29 PM

R135 One of the nieces is named Madison, it appears.

I wonder how little Maddy is processing this all?

by Anonymousreply 138May 14, 2018 7:06 PM

From someone's reply re: R135 Instagram pic:

[quote]Beautiful picture merry Christmas and may the New Year be filled with love and prosperity.

Well, that didn't work out...

by Anonymousreply 139May 14, 2018 7:09 PM

"Glamorous" Cringe. Kys op.

by Anonymousreply 140May 14, 2018 7:16 PM

Am I the only one who thinks it’s uncool to dump a decades-long partner for a younger model?

I mean, not justifying murder/suicide. But that’s a dick move

The younger one was entitled to half the assets, IMO

by Anonymousreply 141May 14, 2018 7:35 PM

I think we have to star a GoFundMe page for little Victoria, adopted by the sister (?) She is going from her faux fabulous Houston villa to a tract home with three screaming kids.

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by Anonymousreply 142May 14, 2018 7:37 PM

r141 Nope, that's why Bets Broderick is so loved. It's a dick move alright, and I bet he regretted it when that gun came out.

by Anonymousreply 143May 14, 2018 7:43 PM

R142 LOL

by Anonymousreply 144May 14, 2018 7:48 PM

The thing is that if he hadn't killed himself, he could have given a great courtroom speech like Bets did. (ie "You get your hair done.")

by Anonymousreply 145May 14, 2018 9:20 PM

How do we know there was another younger man?

by Anonymousreply 146May 15, 2018 12:30 AM

[quote] LET HIM SHOW HIS FACE!

Or better yet, his ass.

by Anonymousreply 147May 15, 2018 12:32 AM

W&W r93 !

by Anonymousreply 148May 15, 2018 12:36 AM

WHERE'S THE BOY TOY ? ? ?

Why are the police withholding this information???

by Anonymousreply 149May 15, 2018 2:56 AM

Maybe it's not a boy, but a much younger wealthy woman who is an heiress?

by Anonymousreply 150May 15, 2018 4:27 AM

This event is by far the saddest and most heartbreaking personal situation I have read on DL in years. Each person had so much life and reason to life together or separately. Reading about the endng for these two Married Gay men is like walking from a Horror film into broad daylight and wishing you had not seen the film!

by Anonymousreply 151May 15, 2018 4:29 AM

r151: MARY!!!

by Anonymousreply 152May 15, 2018 4:35 AM

He had it coming.

by Anonymousreply 153May 15, 2018 4:45 AM

"Married Gay" in caps?

by Anonymousreply 154May 15, 2018 5:00 AM

Well, the vows do say [italic]Till Death Do Us Part...

by Anonymousreply 155May 15, 2018 5:01 AM

Yes, r154! Gay men could not be Married for 1,000 's of years. This union sunk after 22 years like the Titanic however it was no accident.

by Anonymousreply 156May 15, 2018 5:08 AM

I agree that this is one the saddest mysteries on DL. I wish we knew what really happened here?

by Anonymousreply 157May 15, 2018 5:13 AM

Are you serious r157?You think this is sadder than that lesbian couple who murdered those kids? This is not that sad or uncommon, two shallow people marry and part for shallow reasons and one snaps. It happens everyday.

by Anonymousreply 158May 15, 2018 5:24 AM

"Husbands die every day, Dolores..."

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by Anonymousreply 159May 15, 2018 5:37 AM

Right r159, if anything it just shows that marriage is marriage, and that sometimes your spouse will tire of your shit and murder you, gay or straight. Equality!

by Anonymousreply 160May 15, 2018 5:39 AM

[italic]When Fur Babies Aren't Enough: The Benjamin Ruiz Story

by Anonymousreply 161May 15, 2018 5:45 AM

OT: What I think is additionally rather sad is that his employer Laura Mercier has simply erased Mr. Ruiz from their site. Which is understandable, but...he did work for them for 20 years, and probably thought of the company as family.

I guess "Global Makeup Ambasadors" are easily replaced!

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by Anonymousreply 162May 15, 2018 6:01 AM

Geez. That video really brought it home. All that talent gone.

by Anonymousreply 163May 15, 2018 6:10 AM

Strange to see him working so delicately on her eyes, when you know about the violence that came. He looks just a bit like a darker Robert Conrad. Has the dimples too.

by Anonymousreply 164May 15, 2018 7:50 AM

Flawless face:

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by Anonymousreply 165May 15, 2018 8:24 AM

Der perfekte Teint:

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by Anonymousreply 166May 15, 2018 8:29 AM

I don't really find him to be an amazing makeup artist or anything, from those videos. This is the skill level you might see at one of your better department store counters.

by Anonymousreply 167May 15, 2018 8:36 AM

Though i WILL say a friend of mine really likes Laura Mercier's liquid foundation. It has a lot of pigmentation in it, and gives good coverage.

by Anonymousreply 168May 15, 2018 8:39 AM

Disagree R167. There are thousands of make up tutorials on line by so called "artists". Most are drag queen level clownish. The clip @ R162 was subtle with a very attractive outcome. He was quite talented, attractive and articulate. Shame.

by Anonymousreply 169May 15, 2018 8:42 AM

I know this is awful of me and I’m going to hell in a hand-basket - I own it!

But this is how I imagined the cheating partner met his fate...

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by Anonymousreply 170May 15, 2018 8:47 AM

He was no Kevyn Aucoin.

by Anonymousreply 171May 15, 2018 8:47 AM

Back to the Addams family Christmas pictures. Are those girls twins? Could be fraternal. They are about the same size. One is called Madison and the other Madelyn. He calls them "The Maddys". WTF? Why would his sister give her daughters names that are identical when shortened? Creepy. Those pics look like stills from twisted horror movie.

by Anonymousreply 172May 15, 2018 8:58 AM

Does anyone in Houston have any information on who will take their place in society? TIA

by Anonymousreply 173May 15, 2018 9:01 AM

As a model, the best makeup artist I ever worked with was Gregory Arlt from M.A.C. Adam Christopher was also exceptional.

by Anonymousreply 174May 15, 2018 9:02 AM

^^ Were you a model for Mortuary Gazette magazine?

by Anonymousreply 175May 15, 2018 9:06 AM

R172, How sad that thosr kids from fun Christmas photo are dealing witb untoward actions of their uncle.

by Anonymousreply 176May 15, 2018 9:06 AM

That Christmas photo tells me everything about Ben I need to know. It's not even ironic in a hipster way, they actually think they look like Old Money. Unfortunately I saw a lot of this when I lived in Texas. So many framed fox hunting paintings bought for 30 bucks at TJMaxx.

by Anonymousreply 177May 15, 2018 9:08 AM

R175 Probably worse. I've wiped most of it out. Really, when you're not famous, it's anyone who pays.

by Anonymousreply 178May 15, 2018 9:16 AM

Maybe the Christmas portrait wasn’t intended to be all that serious, R177. I liked it.

by Anonymousreply 179May 15, 2018 9:17 AM

It wasn't done well if you can't tell if it was ironic or not, R179. And it's still weird and creepy for middle aged people, who don't live together, to pose for a Christmas card with their siblings. Even more so when they both, presumably, have partners who are absent from the photo.

by Anonymousreply 180May 15, 2018 9:33 AM

What will happen to “The Shining” nieces? Did the house drive Ben to madness?

by Anonymousreply 181May 15, 2018 9:35 AM

Is that awful Addams family library in the murder house? Or were the photos taken on location somewhere -- like a wax museum?

by Anonymousreply 182May 15, 2018 9:52 AM

"Tasteful friends" will post when the house goes up for sale right?

by Anonymousreply 183May 15, 2018 9:56 AM

No...that's the House of Horrors, itself.

by Anonymousreply 184May 15, 2018 9:57 AM

No one should have a library like that if they don't live at Buckingham Palace. Anywhere else, unless it's a historical estate, looks absolutely ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 185May 15, 2018 10:03 AM

R172, one kid is called "Son" and the other is called "Mad."

by Anonymousreply 186May 15, 2018 10:05 AM

^^In his comment for the pic on Instagram he calls them "The two Maddys"

by Anonymousreply 187May 15, 2018 10:18 AM

Has Laura Mercier used this news to boost its brand?

by Anonymousreply 188May 15, 2018 3:50 PM

[quote]Has Laura Mercier used this news to boost its brand?

Yes, she's releasing a new lipstick called "Glamorous & Deadly."

It should be in Sephora stores next month.

by Anonymousreply 189May 15, 2018 4:18 PM

^^ they were shooting for "Blood Red" but that name was trademarked.

by Anonymousreply 190May 15, 2018 4:53 PM

"Bang Bang"

by Anonymousreply 191May 15, 2018 7:06 PM

R191 That reminds me: the fabulous Nancy Sinatra on the floor singing "Bang Bang".

I guess you could immagine it being a bathroom floor if you want to.

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by Anonymousreply 192May 15, 2018 7:23 PM

(better link)

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by Anonymousreply 193May 15, 2018 7:30 PM

Why in God’s name is anyone calling Ben hot? Not to mention that he is a cold-blooded murderess, but worse, he had no lips! Wouldn’t have given him the time of day. Sorry.

by Anonymousreply 194May 15, 2018 7:40 PM

R193 ?? That's NOT a better link.

by Anonymousreply 195May 15, 2018 7:40 PM

Have to sex videos come out yet? They used to record the orgies at their platial estate.

by Anonymousreply 196May 16, 2018 2:12 AM

[quote] Why in God’s name is anyone calling Ben hot? Not to mention that he is a cold-blooded murderess, but worse, he had no lips!

It's not his lips I'd be after....

by Anonymousreply 197May 16, 2018 2:19 AM

[quote] Why in God’s name is anyone calling Ben hot?

That's less eye-rolling then calling the couple "glamorous".

by Anonymousreply 198May 16, 2018 2:25 AM

Maybe you are forgetting his age. Hot is in context.

I say for a man in his 50s, Ben was very hot. Both men and women loose lip tissue as they age. Men especially can end up looking almost lipless by the time they hit 60.

by Anonymousreply 199May 16, 2018 2:37 AM

R194, finally someone else who appreciates the hotness factor of lips!

by Anonymousreply 200May 16, 2018 2:41 AM

Together for 22 years and then kicked to the curb for a bought side-piece. they only got married in 2016 so Ben was fucked financially. Drove him over the edge.

by Anonymousreply 201May 16, 2018 2:52 AM

were they both bottoms?

by Anonymousreply 202May 16, 2018 3:47 AM

R202 -- Both were well-endowed tops, according to a friend of theirs on the previous thread. Apparently they liked three-ways.

by Anonymousreply 203May 16, 2018 3:51 AM

That's not a Christmas card, that's set photography from The Shining.

by Anonymousreply 204May 16, 2018 3:55 AM

R198 Glamorous oh flossy flossy Their theme song

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by Anonymousreply 205May 16, 2018 4:23 AM

They both were versatile and hung. René was hung huge, close to 9 thick.

by Anonymousreply 206May 16, 2018 5:19 AM

So who was Rene’s younger piece and how is he dealing with losing his gravy train?

by Anonymousreply 207May 16, 2018 5:23 AM

[quote]So who was Rene’s younger piece and how is he dealing with losing his gravy train?

THIS is what the Specil Council of the Maiden Aunts Brigade is trying to ascertain, as we speak.

Someone will give him up soon. THEN we shall act.

The little strumpet's head shall be shorn in the town square, for starters.

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by Anonymousreply 208May 16, 2018 5:36 AM

[bold]#Justice4Benji

by Anonymousreply 209May 16, 2018 5:38 AM

Will the younger "other man" be at Rene's funeral today?

by Anonymousreply 210May 16, 2018 6:04 AM

A bit surreal to call a room without any books "the library".

Two tops don't make a couple; they make a team. Not a stable combination.

by Anonymousreply 211May 16, 2018 6:42 AM

It's also, dare we say, [italic]SELFISH.

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by Anonymousreply 212May 16, 2018 7:31 AM

"Two tops"?!?!? That's the funniest thing I've heard all week.... Thanks

by Anonymousreply 213May 16, 2018 9:25 AM

We haven't heard all sides, ya know...

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by Anonymousreply 214May 16, 2018 10:24 AM

Any chance the sidepiece staged the murder-suicide and killed them both? I’m getting a Velma Kelly vibe from this whole thing.

by Anonymousreply 215May 17, 2018 12:59 AM

R215 if the hoe managed to get EVERYTHING in the will then maybe.

by Anonymousreply 216May 17, 2018 1:16 AM

Did anyone go to Rene's funeral today?

by Anonymousreply 217May 17, 2018 4:53 AM

[quote] #Justice4Benji

You said it

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by Anonymousreply 218May 17, 2018 4:57 AM

The movie of their lives has been released!

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by Anonymousreply 219May 17, 2018 5:36 AM

Did they have a gloryhole in that garage?

by Anonymousreply 220May 17, 2018 8:25 PM

Garage was a large dungeon!

by Anonymousreply 221May 18, 2018 5:23 AM

Dan Broderick was rich and hot but since he shared neither his money nor his sizemeat with us it's better that Betty did what she did!

by Anonymousreply 222May 18, 2018 8:53 AM

Dan Broderick was Hot's cousin, Not Hot. He had beady fucking eyes and a flare-y nose like his poor kids inherited, he was also a prick. The only reason I am truly sad he got offed is because Linda never got to know the pain of also being traded in for a younger model.

by Anonymousreply 223May 18, 2018 3:54 PM

r223 = fish

by Anonymousreply 224May 18, 2018 4:02 PM

Rene died a horrible death...shot in the head.

by Anonymousreply 225May 18, 2018 4:33 PM

Shot in the head is actually the best you can hope for r225, you die right away. It's better than a gut shot for sure.

by Anonymousreply 226May 18, 2018 4:36 PM

How did they get the guns for the murder?

by Anonymousreply 227May 19, 2018 3:50 AM

Who are they r227? It was the one guy and he probably had a gun since he lived in Houston or he bought one.

by Anonymousreply 228May 19, 2018 4:05 AM

Doesn't every gay boy in Texas pack a big gun? René was mega huge hung & Benji did not want to it up!

by Anonymousreply 229May 19, 2018 5:32 AM
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by Anonymousreply 230May 19, 2018 6:09 AM

R225, the autopsy said husband had 3 gun shot wounds, one in the head and the shooter one shot in the head.

by Anonymousreply 231May 19, 2018 6:19 AM

Benji was the best bottom in Texas!!!!

by Anonymousreply 232May 19, 2018 7:43 PM

[quote] Benji was the best bottom in Texas!

Everybody knew he liked it ruff.

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by Anonymousreply 233May 19, 2018 8:45 PM

What sad tragic story. I don't understand how someone could kill like this?

by Anonymousreply 234May 19, 2018 10:01 PM

How sweet and naive of you at r234. I don't understand why you're so puzzled, married people do this every day. And not to cast aspersions at the grooms, but these seemed to the rather shallow types that would anger very easily over the loss of material goods and even more at the thought of being replaced. Show me a couple of uggos, gay or straight, and you're gonna have a couple that will never snap like this.

by Anonymousreply 235May 19, 2018 11:44 PM

I thought gay men were happy, peace loving people, not murderers!

by Anonymousreply 236May 20, 2018 6:44 AM

The sexual orientation of peace?!?!

by Anonymousreply 237May 20, 2018 9:21 AM

For $1.5 in Manhattan, you get a studio apartment in the ghetto

by Anonymousreply 238May 20, 2018 12:08 PM

But at least it’s not in godforsaken Houston, of all places

by Anonymousreply 239May 20, 2018 10:29 PM

What exactly was "glamorous" about these two?!?! This thread is hilarious with some of the comments about how they were great pillars of "the community".. Lol. These two were pure trash with money. The one on the right looks like he's about to burst into tears at any moment. I think the one knew how miserable they both were, and decided to end the misery....SAD

by Anonymousreply 240May 21, 2018 10:03 AM

Thoughts and prayers/the sky was so blue...

by Anonymousreply 241May 21, 2018 10:13 AM

Wow. I watched the one Laura Mercier viddy linked above that is still available. Benjamin sounds like a fussy high school drop out. Terminal gay voice and a poor command of English. Why on earth did no one at Laura Mercier spot his grammar errors before those vids were unleashed on an unsuspecting public.

His suits don't fit properly. He had no lips and TERMINAL GAY VOICE. We all know that sometimes the sissiest guys are relentless tops, but it is still difficult to thing Benjamin was a top. How Rene lived with that voice for 22 years is beyond me.

by Anonymousreply 242May 21, 2018 10:22 AM

The Hershey Highway is the road to eternity!

by Anonymousreply 243May 21, 2018 10:26 AM

They were respected members of Houston's community. The whole murder and suicide is devasting and very difficult for for most us in Texas to understand.

by Anonymousreply 244May 22, 2018 7:53 AM

They were an inspiration to the young people of Houston!

by Anonymousreply 245May 22, 2018 7:57 AM

I afraid to marry after this bloody mess.

by Anonymousreply 246May 22, 2018 8:00 AM

I am getting DIVORCED after this bloody mess....moving and changing my NAME!

by Anonymousreply 247May 22, 2018 8:02 AM

Agree on the voice R263, but WTF are you talking about with the grammar? He communicates well in that vid.

by Anonymousreply 248May 22, 2018 8:11 AM

r242, please point out his grammatical errors and where his command of English is poor. He speaks like the average white American to me (with gay voice).

by Anonymousreply 249May 22, 2018 8:23 AM

[quote]please point out his grammatical errors and where his command of English is poor. He speaks like the average white American to me (with gay voice).

I also don't understand the business about bad grammar... he sounds fine.

He does have major gay voice, but it's a up-scale fashion-world gay voice, not a grating nelly queen gay voice.

In the video he presents himself very well. The perfect spokesman for a line of deluxe cosmetics.

by Anonymousreply 250May 22, 2018 9:17 AM

Not quite r238. $830,000 for a large one bedroom on cpw and 92nd/ the Ardsley building. Plus you get to have neighbors such as Mariska Hargitay, Swoosie Kurtz, and David Duchovny. Babs used to live in the building and Mariah Carey was turned down by the co op board for her apt.

by Anonymousreply 251May 22, 2018 11:24 AM

This glam fabulous couple will be greatly missed what with all the great things they did and all the lives they saved with incredible selflessness.. But, the smart one realized that deep down their lives were meaningless and void of real purpose. Fortunately he knew how to "fix" that..

by Anonymousreply 252May 22, 2018 11:33 AM

1. Twice he misuses the word "imbue."

2. Near the top of the video, he says something about the product being for women the woman who wants to "rely on less brushes." Fewer. Fewer brushes. "Fewer" is used for things that are countable, for example, bullets. "Less" is used for mass nouns, like water, salt, or... blood.

3. He pitches the product to the woman who "wants that youthful glowy dew." It's so awkward in the video. And inarticulate.

Given that he is the "Director of Global Creative Artistry" and that the video is a published promotional piece for a company's products, there are a lot of language problems for a three minute and 29 second video. They should a have been spotted by someone and fixed. Given his title and his prominence in the video, he has to own those errors. Not the worst errors he would ever make, I grant you, but they are his.

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by Anonymousreply 253May 22, 2018 1:28 PM

R253 marked up the transcript with red lipstick

by Anonymousreply 254May 22, 2018 1:31 PM

Oh, R254! People above asked for the objections. It seems they could not figure it out for themselves.

As a courtesy, I responded. So, yes, I had to listen to the whole goddamned thing again. But I used a black pen for notes. No lipstick was harmed.

by Anonymousreply 255May 22, 2018 1:34 PM

At least you can rest easier knowing that he will never make those types of mistakes again

by Anonymousreply 256May 22, 2018 1:59 PM

"wants that youthful glowy dew." is perfectly fine for an off-the-cuff sales pitch.

His use of the word "imbue" may very well be cosmetician talk.

Apart from "less brushes" I just don't see his English as being so terrible.

by Anonymousreply 257May 22, 2018 2:16 PM

It's not an off-the-cuff sales pitch. It's a promotional video published to the world wide web.

by Anonymousreply 258May 22, 2018 2:32 PM

It's an off-the-cuff sales pitch. It was not written by a copywriter.

by Anonymousreply 259May 22, 2018 2:46 PM

R180 I agree about the creepy and inappropriate Christmas card. So very Flowers In The Attic. Also R180 "loose lips?" That gave a very unpleasant mental image. Does anybody notice how often people confuse and misuse the words "loose" and "lose"?

by Anonymousreply 260May 22, 2018 4:02 PM

Oops! Second half was meant for R199

by Anonymousreply 261May 22, 2018 4:03 PM

I think he was just a little nervous and transposed the phrase, "youthful dewy glow".

by Anonymousreply 262May 22, 2018 4:09 PM

What a bunch of critical, miserable, wanna be bitches this thread has coaxed out.

by Anonymousreply 263May 22, 2018 6:25 PM

Some of you have never seen a blooper reel? Outtakes? Everyone working in front of a camera makes mistakes, from time to time. But if you want to be taken seriously, you fix mistakes before you publish. If you recognize there are mistakes and you know how to fix them.

by Anonymousreply 264May 22, 2018 10:27 PM

As a matter of fact *this* might be a better example of a Glamourous Gay Couple:

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by Anonymousreply 265May 23, 2018 3:12 AM

I doubt there has been a pair of glamorous gay guys after Noel Coward got old. Certainly none since the invention of Instagram.

by Anonymousreply 266May 23, 2018 3:26 AM

Yes, the socks-less couple is certainly more attractive if that was your point R265, but for all we know one of them may end up shooting the other.

I will bet good money that two years ago not a soul could imagine the Houston couple Ruiz ending up as they did either. What looks beautiful on the outside is not always as it seems.

by Anonymousreply 267May 23, 2018 3:44 AM

R265 - oh those bitches will definitely try to kill each other one day...

by Anonymousreply 268May 23, 2018 3:10 PM

Yes, the couple at R265 are probably already living apart. It's just a matter of time before they implode.

by Anonymousreply 269May 23, 2018 3:14 PM

All gays cheat and are looking for younger husband

by Anonymousreply 270May 23, 2018 9:45 PM

That's right!

by Anonymousreply 271May 26, 2018 11:41 PM

Has Rene's will been read? Whose the younger man who inherites his estate?

by Anonymousreply 272May 27, 2018 9:39 PM

Rene's mother is alive, right? That's where the money would be going.

by Anonymousreply 273May 27, 2018 9:45 PM

All kidding aside this is one sad story all the way around. I bet 20 20 or Dateline will be doing episode on this couple very soon.

by Anonymousreply 274May 27, 2018 9:48 PM

Law & Order will do this story 𝘳𝘪𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘥 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴. The shock ending will be the corrupt white male business executives of Laura Mercier Cosmetics arranged the murder because whistleblower Ruiz was going to expose their fiendish human experimentation.

by Anonymousreply 275May 27, 2018 11:09 PM

Money is going to go to younger boyfriend, who he left the cosmetologist for.

by Anonymousreply 276May 28, 2018 1:37 AM

Does anyone in Houston who posts here have an idea why they were ending 20+ year relationship? I don't think it was the new young boyfriend. There had to be something more of a precouser.

by Anonymousreply 277May 28, 2018 2:49 AM

Precursor..

by Anonymousreply 278May 28, 2018 2:57 AM

R276, did you read that, or are you the poster R130 (one of their friends)?

by Anonymousreply 279May 28, 2018 2:58 AM

Well Houston what happened?

by Anonymousreply 280May 28, 2018 3:10 PM

Was there any death notice or funeral for the cosmetologist murderer?

by Anonymousreply 281May 29, 2018 2:36 AM

My heart breaks for friends and family.

by Anonymousreply 282May 29, 2018 3:00 AM

The Life & Times of Benjamin Ruiz, the People's Princess

by Anonymousreply 283May 29, 2018 3:02 AM

Yikes r265.

Dr in the instagram handle, MD in the name, and doctor in the bio.

Dude, we get it. You graduated from med school.

by Anonymousreply 284May 29, 2018 3:07 AM

He didn't go to 8 freekin' years of evil med school to be called Mister Evil r284! It's Doctor!

by Anonymousreply 285May 29, 2018 3:53 AM

R282 is the reason conservatives laugh at us and will continue to defeat democracy at every level... Fuck you and your "breaking heart" you filthy, sociopathic cunt. These two were NOT upstanding in any way. Two sad queens obsessed with youth and money.. If there were a hell, they'd be rotting there....

by Anonymousreply 286May 29, 2018 4:02 AM

r286 Has stated her boundaries! Of course it's sad though, I mean, they had family and friends and didn't think it would end like this. It's always sad when this happens and heteros do it all the time and conservatives don't hate them. That's an odd thing to say.

by Anonymousreply 287May 29, 2018 4:10 AM

Two aging, cheating, narcissistic party queens with horrendous interior design taste kill each other and Houston is reeling? Gimme a break.

by Anonymousreply 288May 29, 2018 11:39 AM

I think it rather that a few people in a gay bar or two in Houston are reeling. And drug dealers, of course. They obviously lost the motherlode when those two exited the planet.

by Anonymousreply 289May 29, 2018 12:52 PM

There will be a youth scholarship established in their names.

by Anonymousreply 290May 29, 2018 2:57 PM

How come this story hasn’t entered our national gun control debate?

by Anonymousreply 291May 29, 2018 5:07 PM

Houston is too big and diverse to be reeling about one murder-suicide, gay or straight. It happens frequently in large cities, and only occasionally makes the local news.

by Anonymousreply 292May 29, 2018 5:16 PM

They were leaders of the gay community and the community is devastated by this murder- suicide!

by Anonymousreply 293May 29, 2018 11:27 PM

When will the videos of their sex parties come out?

by Anonymousreply 294May 30, 2018 3:52 AM

If it weren't for the house, this wouldn't have made the news.

by Anonymousreply 295May 30, 2018 3:53 AM

Their home was the Versailles of Texas.

by Anonymousreply 296May 30, 2018 4:01 AM

If it weren't for the Daily Mail, we wouldn't be discussing it.

by Anonymousreply 297May 30, 2018 4:03 AM

Their homes were in Architectural Digest.

by Anonymousreply 298May 30, 2018 4:20 AM

No they weren't.

by Anonymousreply 299May 30, 2018 5:18 AM

they had a beautiful home.

by Anonymousreply 300May 30, 2018 3:17 PM

Their home was the Taj Mahal of Houston.

by Anonymousreply 301May 30, 2018 3:22 PM

The Taj Mahal is a mausoleum.

by Anonymousreply 302May 30, 2018 3:34 PM

Exactly, R302. And death is the only thing that links the Taj Mahal to that p.o.s. house in p.o.s. Houston.

by Anonymousreply 303May 30, 2018 3:44 PM

[quote] If it weren't for the Daily Mail, we wouldn't be discussing it.

Thank god there is at least ONE remaining source that provides news. Even if now we have to look across an ocean.

by Anonymousreply 304May 30, 2018 5:27 PM

Why hasn't the Second Mrs. Ruiz been outed and interviwed yet...the homewrecker, the impetus?

by Anonymousreply 305May 30, 2018 5:47 PM

The cunt! Who was only brought on by the fuckhead.

by Anonymousreply 306May 30, 2018 5:50 PM

It wasn't a Taj Mahal. More like a Taj Mahell.

by Anonymousreply 307May 30, 2018 5:51 PM

BTW, the more we learn about Betty B's story - the more we like her!

by Anonymousreply 308May 30, 2018 6:03 PM
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by Anonymousreply 309May 30, 2018 6:18 PM

Betty B is fantastic and had many good reasons for doing what she did. But why did Ben kill Rene? The younger guy is only a rumor.

by Anonymousreply 310May 30, 2018 6:28 PM

I thought he had moved out and filed for divorce while Ben was away, that's pretty telling that there's a side chippie involved. Said whore backed the wrong horse, I guess. Next time choose a man who is already single.

by Anonymousreply 311May 30, 2018 6:31 PM

Um, Ben killed Rene then himself because he was cray. No other reason. Doesn't matter if Rene fucked all of Texas or decided to move to the Moon with those ratfaced pooches of theirs, without Thunder Thighed Ben. Bitch was unstable if he thought any of that was worth killing over.

by Anonymousreply 312May 30, 2018 7:09 PM

Houston, What are those who knew them saying? Like with Andrew Cunanan there must be lots of speculation?

by Anonymousreply 313May 30, 2018 8:08 PM

Friend in Houston, has report on alcohol/drugs in the Ben's body been released to family? (Is it called toxicology? I don't know.)

by Anonymousreply 314May 30, 2018 8:26 PM

Betty B was and remains a bitch. Period. There is nothing redeemable about her or excuse for what she did.

by Anonymousreply 315May 30, 2018 8:26 PM

Yes there is!

by Anonymousreply 316May 30, 2018 8:37 PM

I posted elsewhere I want to see the Lifetime movie with Matt Bomer and Nathan Lane.

by Anonymousreply 317May 30, 2018 8:50 PM

[quote]r315 Betty B was and remains a bitch. Period. There is nothing redeemable about her or excuse for what she did.

Well, she worked three jobs to put her husband through both medical and law schools, while raising four kids.

That's quite a lot, actually. Have you ever given that much?

by Anonymousreply 318May 31, 2018 2:46 AM

René worked hard to put Ben through Cosmetology School!

by Anonymousreply 319May 31, 2018 3:17 AM

What's with cosmetology and murder? The deranged gay professor in Chicago murdered his cosmetologist boyfriend last summer!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 320May 31, 2018 3:21 AM

[quote]r319 René worked hard to put Ben through Cosmetology School!

You know, that's very true. And René was probably additionally burdened with feeding and walking their two yappy furballs during those years....and then while Ben was ever-traveling for his demanding career as a Laura Mercier "global ambasador".

by Anonymousreply 321May 31, 2018 3:28 AM

Global cosmetology ambassador Bem must have a fuck buddy topping him in every port he visited, while René had those silly dogs!

by Anonymousreply 322May 31, 2018 3:44 AM

No wonder René was desperate to escape!

Ben was probably bent on achieving global dominance for the Laura Mercier brand, and it became all-consuming.

by Anonymousreply 323May 31, 2018 3:54 AM

There's a conspiracy theory going around that Ben didn't do it.....but that they were both murdered by the Global Cosmetology Ambassador of Esteè Lauder.

by Anonymousreply 324May 31, 2018 12:52 PM

I always thought that Ben was framed for the murder!

by Anonymousreply 325May 31, 2018 4:18 PM

[quote]There's a conspiracy theory going around that Ben didn't do it.....but that they were both murdered by the Global Cosmetology Ambassador of Esteè Lauder.

He simply knew too much....about a moisture-rich, long-lasting blusher that's still in development.

He simply new too much

by Anonymousreply 326May 31, 2018 5:18 PM

Maybe you're on to something.

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by Anonymousreply 327May 31, 2018 7:47 PM

DL solved another one!

by Anonymousreply 328May 31, 2018 10:54 PM

I was first.

by Anonymousreply 329May 31, 2018 11:18 PM

All this time I thought it was the Russians!

by Anonymousreply 330June 1, 2018 2:58 AM

They died horrible, needless, bloody deaths. Ghastly.

by Anonymousreply 331June 1, 2018 3:41 AM

Not needless, R331. Everybody has to die sometime.

by Anonymousreply 332June 1, 2018 3:47 AM

The really died protecting cosmetic secrets?

by Anonymousreply 333June 1, 2018 6:42 AM

[quote]R331 They died horrible, needless, bloody deaths. Ghastly.

Look, good blusher's important. If Ben had to die for The Cause amidst some clandestine coverup...he did it for all of us.

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by Anonymousreply 334June 1, 2018 6:54 AM

I thought that Ben and Rene were both tops, and that's why their activities were always three and foursomes???

by Anonymousreply 335June 1, 2018 6:57 AM

We know René was hung very big, over 9thick uncut and was a total top.

by Anonymousreply 336June 1, 2018 6:58 AM

Maybe Rene did surprise anal on top Ben....and this was payback.

by Anonymousreply 337June 1, 2018 6:59 AM

[quote]René was hung very big, over 9thick uncut

Thick? Was he packing an anvil?

by Anonymousreply 338June 1, 2018 7:26 AM

Any home movies?

by Anonymousreply 339June 1, 2018 9:10 AM

Suppose to be a whole vault of videos of their infamous group sex parties.

by Anonymousreply 340June 1, 2018 9:27 PM

[quote]Suppose to be a whole vault of videos of their infamous group sex parties.

Sounds like the makings of a new Dan Brown novel!

by Anonymousreply 341June 1, 2018 9:48 PM

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by Anonymousreply 342June 1, 2018 10:12 PM

Many of the bottoms were of course angling for a glimpse of the entire house!

by Anonymousreply 343June 2, 2018 1:24 AM

It was like having sex at Versailles!

by Anonymousreply 344June 2, 2018 4:34 PM

[quote] They died horrible, needless, bloody deaths. Ghastly.

Just ghastly!

by Anonymousreply 345June 2, 2018 4:42 PM

Lots of professional guys are nervous that sex tapes will come out soon with them in very compromising positions!

by Anonymousreply 346June 2, 2018 9:44 PM

Due to the value of the sex tapes, The value of their estates has increased dramatically!

by Anonymousreply 347June 3, 2018 12:28 AM

Are any of their sex tapes on XTube online?

by Anonymousreply 348June 3, 2018 8:39 AM

Their home was the Pickfair of Houston.

by Anonymousreply 349June 3, 2018 10:10 AM

Where is the verificatia that they were both hung tops?

by Anonymousreply 350June 3, 2018 11:38 AM

No way that make-up guy was a top.

by Anonymousreply 351June 3, 2018 3:02 PM

LOL r349!!!

by Anonymousreply 352June 3, 2018 3:10 PM

R349 brought me a moment of joy as well.

by Anonymousreply 353June 3, 2018 3:24 PM

I imagined it more like a reverse Beauty and the Beast. As soon as those two cheating awful narcissists were dead, the house and all its inhabitants came back to life singing and dancing.

by Anonymousreply 354June 3, 2018 4:10 PM

We knew a makeup artist (did Liz Taylor, etc) in LA who was indeed a horse-hung (a thick magnificent 9+) top!

by Anonymousreply 355June 3, 2018 5:09 PM

[quote]r350 Where is the verificatia that they were both hung tops?

We read it on the INTERNET, you fool!

[italic]Next question ? ? ?

by Anonymousreply 356June 3, 2018 6:10 PM

Ben, the cosmetologist murderer had a PerFuck hairy bubble butt ass to Top.

by Anonymousreply 357June 3, 2018 9:30 PM

Is James Franco really making a film on the murder-suicide?

by Anonymousreply 358June 4, 2018 4:03 AM

JJ Abrams is interested in the project according to Variety.

by Anonymousreply 359June 5, 2018 5:04 AM

Kevin Spacey would make a great Rene and this would be a perfect vehicle for his comeback.

by Anonymousreply 360June 5, 2018 5:23 AM

R272 "who's" not "whose." Who is.

by Anonymousreply 361June 5, 2018 10:07 AM

Cristoph Walz as Rene, Josh Duhamel as Ben

by Anonymousreply 362June 5, 2018 10:36 AM

Oh, that's very good, R362!

by Anonymousreply 363June 5, 2018 11:52 AM

Great casting. The sex orgy scenes should be fun to film and watch.

by Anonymousreply 364June 6, 2018 8:11 AM

Has the identity of younger other man who was Rene's new lover been revealed?

by Anonymousreply 365June 7, 2018 4:43 AM

No, g-dammit. And it's hight time, too.

SOMEONE interview the real estate agents who showed Rene new places. Probably side piece was with him, bitching that none of them were big enough.

by Anonymousreply 366June 7, 2018 4:52 AM

Is Brooke the killer??

First she was seen with Ben Ruiz at a Laura Mercier event...then here she is with Kate Spade...

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by Anonymousreply 367June 7, 2018 7:16 AM

R367 I don't think it's merely a coincidence.

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by Anonymousreply 368June 7, 2018 1:11 PM

Oh, no! And she comes from such fine aristocratic stock.

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by Anonymousreply 369June 7, 2018 1:20 PM

....

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by Anonymousreply 370June 7, 2018 1:35 PM

It seems like Brooke Shields is the female Kevin Bacon.

by Anonymousreply 371June 7, 2018 4:02 PM

OMG, whatever you do, don't have a picture taken with Brooke Shields

by Anonymousreply 372June 7, 2018 4:05 PM

Poor Brooke! I had no idea she experienced so much loss in her life.

by Anonymousreply 373June 8, 2018 12:49 AM
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by Anonymousreply 374June 8, 2018 6:11 AM

The psychopathic mind is formed very early - -

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by Anonymousreply 375June 8, 2018 6:12 AM

Woah I had no idea Brooke had it in her!

by Anonymousreply 376June 8, 2018 4:53 PM

It's always the quiet ones...

by Anonymousreply 377June 8, 2018 5:20 PM

She's going to save us all.

You can see it in her expression. The fix is in.

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by Anonymousreply 378June 8, 2018 5:22 PM

If she can follow through with that and then find a way to give it up, she'll be exonerated for all the others.

Brooke needs to talk with a lawyer.

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by Anonymousreply 379June 8, 2018 5:41 PM

Was Brooke Sheilds part of the murder?

by Anonymousreply 380June 9, 2018 6:59 AM

R378, you are brilliant.

I want you to know that.

by Anonymousreply 381June 9, 2018 7:04 AM

Haha! This thread just got interesting. Nothing came between Brooke and her Calvin. Nothing!

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by Anonymousreply 382June 9, 2018 7:08 AM

How could she?! She's deranged!

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by Anonymousreply 383June 9, 2018 7:18 AM

Can we talk?

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by Anonymousreply 384June 9, 2018 7:27 AM

When is Houston Pride? Any truth to the rumor that this year’s parade floats will be draped in black bunting?

by Anonymousreply 385June 10, 2018 3:23 AM

[quote] It seems like Brooke Shields is the female Kevin Bacon.

No she's the female Jessica Fletcher.

by Anonymousreply 386June 10, 2018 3:30 AM

She's the female John Wayne Gacy.

by Anonymousreply 387June 10, 2018 1:26 PM

The real estate agent selling the house is planning a pride weekend sex party at the mansion to show off the house to potential buyers.

by Anonymousreply 388June 13, 2018 4:12 AM

I want an invite to this party!

by Anonymousreply 389June 14, 2018 6:36 AM

It should be the sex party of the year!

by Anonymousreply 390June 15, 2018 5:23 AM

This thread went from interesting... including some witty humour... to absolutely lame. (R388, 389,390)

by Anonymousreply 391June 15, 2018 1:08 PM

It seems like Brooke knew everyone. How did that happen?

by Anonymousreply 392June 15, 2018 2:37 PM

Brooke is the key link to solving this murder mystery!

by Anonymousreply 393June 16, 2018 5:51 AM

Lori Laughlin in SNAPPED: THE BROOKE SHIELDS STORY, only on [italic]Lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 394June 16, 2018 6:08 AM

Has Brooke been interviewed by the police?

by Anonymousreply 395June 18, 2018 3:18 AM

There's probably a lot of behind-the-scenes negotiation going on - - will she turn herself in, will they have to come for her, will she be handcuffed in front of her kids, etc.

They will also look into the death of her mother, Terri, who was only 80 when she died.

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by Anonymousreply 396June 18, 2018 4:02 AM

Will she or the police reveal who René's younger boyfriend is?

by Anonymousreply 397June 18, 2018 5:56 AM

Time will tell....

by Anonymousreply 398June 18, 2018 6:51 AM

Society Serial Killer is Brooke's best role in a long, long time.

by Anonymousreply 399June 18, 2018 7:13 PM

Does anyone have a link to the Architectural Digest article that featured their home in Texas?

by Anonymousreply 400June 19, 2018 6:09 AM

I want to see photos of their beautiful home in Mexico. Where in Mexico was their estate located?

by Anonymousreply 401June 20, 2018 5:13 AM

"estate.." Ha!

Wasn't it a condo?

by Anonymousreply 402June 20, 2018 5:14 AM

[quote]R399 Society Serial Killer is Brooke's best role in a long, long time.

Daphne Zuniga in BROOKE: PORTRAIT OF A SOCIETY SERIAL KILLER, only on Lifetime.

[italic]"She was America's dream girl. First she stole their hearts. Then, she ate them."

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by Anonymousreply 403June 20, 2018 5:18 AM

Friends in Texas say it was a large estate or horse ranch?

by Anonymousreply 404June 20, 2018 5:19 AM

It was a palace in the middle of a manmade lake.

Of semen.

by Anonymousreply 405June 20, 2018 5:21 AM

I'm going to see if google is truly my friend, but usually one's main house is the more expensive.

by Anonymousreply 406June 20, 2018 5:21 AM

Oh Jesus Fucking Christ!

I just found their fucking condo photos!

R406

(PS No disrespect to the Lord above.)

by Anonymousreply 407June 20, 2018 5:25 AM

Mexican estates are cheaper than American condos.

by Anonymousreply 408June 20, 2018 5:26 AM

It's me, R406.

Here you go--the "horse ranch estate"--is actually a three-bedroom fucking 4th floor condo that they named after themselves, "Casa Benjamin" so they could rent it when they weren't there. Glamorous, huh?

What a pair of pretentious morons. Is that the best you got, Houston?

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by Anonymousreply 409June 20, 2018 5:29 AM

You have to admit it's a very nice condo.

by Anonymousreply 410June 20, 2018 5:57 AM

For 300k, you too can own a Mexican horse ranch in the sky like they did.

(This is the apartment building next door to theirs.)

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by Anonymousreply 411June 20, 2018 6:11 AM

I agree, R410.

by Anonymousreply 412June 20, 2018 6:14 AM

What a beautiful home. They were truly a magically couple until the unfortunate breakup.

by Anonymousreply 413June 20, 2018 7:32 AM

R413,

Break up?

One guy shot the other guy in the fucking head.

by Anonymousreply 414June 20, 2018 9:11 AM

Okay, so it was a MESSY breakup...

by Anonymousreply 415June 20, 2018 9:17 AM

Probably very slippery as well, with all that blood in stuff in a marble floored bathroom.

(I don't KNOW that it was marble, but from the look of those guys, I think it's a fairly high-percentage guess.)

by Anonymousreply 416June 20, 2018 9:19 AM

^^blood and stuff

by Anonymousreply 417June 20, 2018 9:19 AM

Surely, there was both blood and stuff, and blood in stuff.

by Anonymousreply 418June 20, 2018 9:21 AM

Thanks, man (or woman) at R418.

by Anonymousreply 419June 20, 2018 9:23 AM

As real estate tycoons in Mexico, is it possible that this was a staged hit by the cartel?

by Anonymousreply 420June 20, 2018 5:10 PM

No, because Brooke Shields does not have any South American ancestry, or holdings.

by Anonymousreply 421June 20, 2018 5:15 PM

Did the murderer own the cosmetic company?

by Anonymousreply 422June 22, 2018 3:51 AM

Maybe it was a hit by the Avon lady

by Anonymousreply 423June 22, 2018 1:19 PM

That apartment is awful. Too much orange. Waaaaay too close to the neighbors' terraces. And that day bed / fuck bench in the bedroom has got to go.

by Anonymousreply 424June 22, 2018 1:35 PM

Its a great apartment. I went to an all night orgy there & set up is perfect for ex parties. They were generous, fun men and both will be missed.

by Anonymousreply 425June 22, 2018 9:48 PM

Which bedroom of the ranch house did you stay in?

by Anonymousreply 426June 22, 2018 10:50 PM

Ranch house? Did they also have a horse of cattle ranch in Mexico?

by Anonymousreply 427June 23, 2018 6:30 AM

The Mexican drug cartel that Trump warns about maybe the ones who set up the murder!

by Anonymousreply 428June 23, 2018 5:33 PM

With movie coming out of the murder, the value of the house in Texas has tripled!

by Anonymousreply 429June 27, 2018 5:44 AM

Billy Santoro was involved in the murder! 😢

by Anonymousreply 430June 28, 2018 5:16 AM

Theoretically, one could have been so happy in the beautiful condo... What ruined that?

by Anonymousreply 431June 28, 2018 5:57 AM

Does anyone know what was really behind this murder-suicide?

by Anonymousreply 432June 29, 2018 5:41 AM

It's Brooke, okay?

She just got tired of their bullshit.

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by Anonymousreply 433June 29, 2018 6:11 AM

Whe is the movie going to be released. Will Brooke star in the film?

by Anonymousreply 434June 30, 2018 3:37 AM

I hope it is a musical.

by Anonymousreply 435June 30, 2018 3:44 AM

I would stage the musical in their Mexican condo--Blythe Spirit-like, both in their tighty-whities with open white shirts, as if nothing happened.

by Anonymousreply 436June 30, 2018 5:24 AM

I think there should be 4 actors....2 playing them in their younger, underwear-clad days in the Mexican condo, then 2 older actors playing them in the more weathered, final encounter in the empty Texas [italic]manse.[/italic]

(Plus Brookie, of course.)

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by Anonymousreply 437June 30, 2018 6:03 AM

Scott Rudin is bringing it to Broadway in 2019! Movie in 2020!

by Anonymousreply 438June 30, 2018 2:28 PM

R432, the younger one got dumped so he murdered him.

by Anonymousreply 439June 30, 2018 2:33 PM

We may never learn more. If this were a higher profile case, text messages from their phones (leading up to the event) would be leaked.

by Anonymousreply 440June 30, 2018 9:36 PM

Why can't elder gays get along instead of killin each other?

by Anonymousreply 441July 1, 2018 7:08 AM

Where there drugs involved?

by Anonymousreply 442July 3, 2018 6:02 AM

It might have been a fight over who got the Mexican condo in the divorce settlement.

I know I'D be desperate to get out of Texas . . .

by Anonymousreply 443July 3, 2018 7:26 AM

They were fighting over who would control the cosmetics empire they owned.

by Anonymousreply 444July 4, 2018 6:01 AM

René's new boyfriend will inherit his share of the estate. Many of the assets were in René's name.

by Anonymousreply 445July 6, 2018 7:11 AM

Are we sure they are dead?

by Anonymousreply 446July 9, 2018 4:47 AM

Who was the younger other guy?

by Anonymousreply 447July 10, 2018 5:58 AM

Any sex videos available of their infamous sex orgy parties?

by Anonymousreply 448July 12, 2018 3:20 AM

Is it true that their Texas home will be turned into a museum?

by Anonymousreply 449July 14, 2018 6:53 AM

A museum of WHAT? Poor taste and excessive spending?

by Anonymousreply 450July 14, 2018 11:47 AM

Gin and regret

by Anonymousreply 451July 14, 2018 2:53 PM

I wish we could read the text messages between them in their final days.

by Anonymousreply 452July 14, 2018 3:59 PM

It's going to be a cosmetic museum? Didn't the murderer own a cosmetics company?

by Anonymousreply 453July 14, 2018 6:23 PM

When is Ryan Murohy starting to start filming the murders for Anerican Crime Story?

by Anonymousreply 454July 15, 2018 8:26 AM

Right. With Jessica Lange playing Rene Ruiz.

by Anonymousreply 455July 15, 2018 5:42 PM

George Clooney wants to play Rene.

by Anonymousreply 456July 17, 2018 4:19 AM

Will be broadcast on FX next spring.

by Anonymousreply 457July 18, 2018 3:08 AM

Did we ever hear what the back story was about this?

Wasn't someone on DL acquainted with the pair and planned to get the lowdown?

by Anonymousreply 458September 8, 2018 5:20 AM

Oh shit, I forgot all about these guys! Chris Watts has stolen their thunder.

by Anonymousreply 459September 8, 2018 5:51 AM

There was a posting that Ryan Murphy has the film rights and was already filming the murder suicide for Anerican Horror Story?

by Anonymousreply 460September 8, 2018 5:52 AM

No way r460! Really? He kind of already did in AHS 1, Murder House, Zach Quinto and the other guy had a murder/suicide thing complete with the murder guy banging twinks and bondage guys on the side.

by Anonymousreply 461September 8, 2018 6:00 AM

R460 this is too boring to be made into anything

by Anonymousreply 462September 8, 2018 6:00 AM

If these were two skid row queens, there'd be no fuss made.Disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 463September 8, 2018 6:31 AM

Has the other boyfriend appear to claim his share of the estate?

by Anonymousreply 464September 25, 2018 4:04 AM

Boyfriends don't have a claim on an estate. Beneficiaries named in a will can claim what was left to them in the will. But that's the end of it.

by Anonymousreply 465September 25, 2018 12:43 PM

I drove by the Manse on Markham yesterday. Nothing has been changed since May, including a black luxury SUV parked behind the gate in the exact same spot. Someone is cutting the grass, however. This is a typical Houston nouveaux riche mansion, big house on a tiny lot.

I wonder why it hasn't been put on the market yet. Bickering over the estate, perhaps?

by Anonymousreply 466September 25, 2018 1:41 PM
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