Meghan Markle's brother Thomas warns Harry 'this is the biggest mistake in royal wedding history'

Its EXTREMELY tacky for him to do this but we all know he is likely at least 50% correct.

Meghan Markle the royal beard

And what a pretty thing the family is....

There was nothing genuine about Diana either.

Use a condom, Harry, use a condom.

You're all cunts, as well as this half brother. I bet she wishes she could just have them all gassed. They're just pissed she isn't inviting them to the wedding. And for clearly great reasons.

Keep it classy, Thomas.

You got to love this family! They are so white trash. Writing a letter in a tabloid and he thinks that will get him invited? They have a point that they are family and maybe should have been invited, but they act like this in the tabs and can't figure out what they weren't? And the other half sister saying she didn't want an invite and when she didn't get one going in a Twitter rampage. She hasnt seen them in years. After the fun of Diana and Fergie it seemed the Royals had calmed things down and were able to keep things in house. And then this! Not gonna lie, this is fun.

Her "family" are going to be like monkeys on her back and the tabs aren't going to leave them alone.

Did you know Meghan was on Suits?

the best Daily Mail comment:

[quote]Wow. Just wow.

[quote]After the fun of Diana and Fergie it seemed the Royals had calmed things down and were able to keep things in house

Marrying some plebian from America is not going to "keep things in-house".

Quite the opposite, in fact.

Ridiculous choice.

They never learn.

Don't blame this on the tabs! That family has the tabs on speed dial. You just know one of the tabs are going to fly them to England to stand in the street and give commentary. And the family will be more than happy to oblige. I hope The Windsors cast the half brother and half sister.

[quote]You just know one of the tabs are going to fly them to England to stand in the street and give commentary.

Maybe Bravo will do it - Andy can fly out with him.

He says she didn't invite her father?

I thought the father was going.

Her family has done a wonderful job of proving exactly why she does not associate with them.

R16 I know, right? I just feel sorry for her. I imagine she had to deal with them constantly asking for money or jobs hen she got the Suits gig, too. Now they have a worldwide platform to grift.

Maybe when she's married she can get the queen to lock them in the Tower of London and then forget they're there. The ol' dear is very forgetful, at her age.

I just read the letter. They are so pissed at not being invited. He is like begging to be invited. Did they not realize when she started dating him to shut up about it?

I think something weird is up with the dad. Living in Mexico like a hermit. After the bankruptcy you would have thought he could've found a job in the industry somewhere. He's been quiet, it doesn't even seem like he would want to go. It's more like he is hiding. The Brits must really be laughing at us Americans!

Ughh his first line says it's not to late...

The half siblings, while attempting to show Meghan in the worst possible light, only showed themselves to be the horrors that they are. I'm all for people being happy together. I hope that the two will enjoy a happy and successful marriage. I confess, however, that when I heard she was Leo, I was like "OOPS!"

The brother is an asshole. It’s really disgusting to be doing this crap for cash.

I’m friends with some people who the tabs would love to hear about. And I know some shit, trust me. I’d never dream of calling the tabs, primarily, because it’s just plain wrong. Who does something like this, and at that age? If these people were teenagers, then perhaps I’d give them a pass, but these are adults. There’s absolutely NOTHING to gain here for these creeps, except money.

Surely the royals know all about Meg’s crazy clan.

Honestly, I don’t understand why it’s eating them alive, that their sister is marrying a prince. If that were my little sister, I’d be thrilled for her that she’s happy, and keep my mouth shut, regardless of a wedding invite withstanding, or not.

No family is worse than the British royal family.

I hate to say it, but Fake News. I'll guarantee you that letter was written by In Touch and he signed it for lunch money.

But why isn't she inviting her dad? I get not inviting the trashy sibs. Her father from all accounts doted on her, paid her way through private school and apparently - from what this brother is pissed at - paid off some big debts of hers.

And now at the biggest event in her life he's not even invited? something strange is afoot here.

Who said he wasnt invited?

When the messy divorce happens, I hope Thomas gets his “I told you so!” letter published.

Because Harry is A MAN SLUT WHO DON'T GIVE A FUCK! I don't like Meghan Markle....she looks exceedingly phony to me and she has crazy eyes which she didn't have 5 years ago. HOWEVER Prince Harry once wore a Nazi uniform and was naked in Vegas holding/covering them royal jewels. HE AIN'T NO SAINT. *** The only time I have ever seen Harry grinning and happy as fuck is when he is around African people. Banging on drums with many of the African performers playing drums. Cinderella found her Prince. Jealous step sisters lol! Yes she is half black, but she looks like a tan white woman so let her ethnicity go. If she fucks up the Brits will run her Yankee ass back across the pond.

National Enquirer is now saying what some of the tumblr blogs have been claiming: that this would be her third marriage and she had a first marriage that was annulled.

Megs isn't inviting her Sainted Mum's siblings either. They apparently don't fit her "brand" (TM Meghan Markle)

R17 and all others who are falling for the Poor Wittle Megs story, read her own social media. The famewhoring and grifting are not limited to her siblings.

R24 her dad was a flake. Never really there for her. I don't know why so many people can't grasp that (not you R24, I mean the media outlets). She doesn't owe him anything.

Oh the Enquirer R28! Certainly more credible than In Touch.

Actually R29, Megs herself on her own social media stated repeatedly that her dad spoiled her rotten. For instance, FED-EXing chicken soup to Northwestern when she was feeling poorly.

In 2016, on her own social media, Smeg thanked her dad for being wonderful.

And Dad paid for Little Red Schoolhouse, Immaculate Heart and Northwestern. Conservative estimate Daddio spent $300 K + just on Sparkle's schooling.

The Enquirer broke the John Edwards story among many others. It has been sued to oblivion and back, so I don't think it would risk the wrath of the BRF and publish something untrue.

R17 we would love to have them! It's gets so frightfully boring here in this ol' bloody tower.

Has anyone consulted Globe Magazine yet? I need all of the facts.

He may be a flake r29 but why do you say he wasn't there for her? who paid her expensive private high school tuition (Immaculate Heart is NOT cheap). She lived with him part time as a child after her parents split and even for stretches in high school when she supposedly didn't get along with her mom. He lived in an apartment in Hollywood very close to her school so it was convenient.

There's no record he didn't fully support her growing up, financially or personally. In fact I'd say he did very well by her. Now they may have rifted since her college days, nothing's been confirmed. I'm guessing that's led to this father-daughter situation.

Quelle drama!

Really R31 the Enquirer is totally worried about being sued again so now they stick to the facts.

I think his being a hermit in Mexico might be why they aren't close now. Maybe mental problems. In fact it seems to run in the family.

I'm no fan of the Enquirer and I'm not claiming that the Enquirer doesn't ever fib, but on a story of this magnitude - the wife of the son of the future king of England has lied about having an annulled first marriage - I would venture to guess that the Enquirer's lawyers have vetted every word.

The BRF doesn't mess around.

This is the most entertaining soap opera I can remember.

Yeah, her half-siblings suck but they are all the same. She's just as much of a money hungry fame whore as they are. It runs in the family.

Meg didn't invite her uncle who got her the embassy internship either and he never talked to the press so even if they never talked to the press they would not have been invited.

I wonder if the BRF would have preferred Cressida. I remember reading she turned down Harry when he asked her to marry because she didn't want to be a part of the BRF circus.

Oh well, anyone taking bets on how long this marriage lasts?

Look, I can't stand Meghan Markle. Phony as FUCK. But her being so thirsty and obsessed with royalty (Brit) makes her AN IDEAL CANDIDATE FOR A WIFE. Why? Because she wants it. Not many humans can with stand that barrage of publicity, attention, disection....plus whatever goes on behind close doors in the royal family. Harry knows she won't fuck up or embarrass him. I loved (and still miss) Princess Diana....but that bitch knew how to play at your heart strings. Using and manipulating the media, sitting on a bench in India BY HERSELF looking sad...with the Taj Mahal in the background. The Taj Mahal being a symbol of love (Shah Jehan created it for Mumtaz Mahal, the love of his live, when she died). Harry is marrying mommy.

"Harry knows she won't fuck up or embarrass him"

Have you been paying attention at all?

OMG this story is never going to stop giving. Wasn't the Queen appraised of this crazy family before she consented to this insane marriage?

“Fib” R39? Are you a 7 yr old. The Enquirer is a tabloid. They are in the business of proudly printing lies.

I bet him and his sister were just thrilled when their father married a black woman their age.

Yawn. Sour grapes and making a buck off the tabloids.

Why is the marriage “insane” R44? Imagine in millions of perfect strangers were equally as invested in who you should date and/or marry. That’s whats insane.

I recall reading early on in this saga that the father has emotional stability problems; that may be why he's living a solitary life in Mexico. The other assorted family members just seem like standard trailer trash who've suddenly found an audience for all their grievances.

In any case, none of this stuff is any real concern to anyone other than Harry and the girl.

Whether he likes it or not R47 his choice of a wife is not a completly private matter if she intends to officially represent the monarchy. Sucks for Harry to be in that situation but that's the way it is.

The Enquirer of course is thought of as trash but they do break some big stories from time to time. I guess we'll see if this one ends up panning out. The rumors about the first husband have been out there for a while and I didn't really buy into them but if anything this last year has proven is that a lot of internet rumors end up being completely true.

The British people have to fork over at least 30 million pounds for security for the wedding, R47 and R48.

Harry and Megs could have gone off quietly to a registry office like his father and Camilla did, then had a private bash somewhere, but they're not. They want the whole shebang, and they're billing the UK taxpayers for a portion of it. And let's face it, the queen and Charles' money comes from the taxpayers' hard graft too.

And R45, I have no idea if the Megs had a secret first marriage is true or not, but the National Enquirer has broken significant stories, and in the case of this one, it would know the risks of lying. Sounds like The Enquirer has been around a lot longer than you have.

It's ironic that a site that for years has trashed the idea of family and has repeatedly advovated for dumping them and never looking back is raking Megan over the coals for dumping hers.

Yes, its insane to invite trashy relatives into any family, but this is beyond belief. Crazy. Queen never should have consented to this mess.

Regular wedding family politics on steroids.

I believe him. Wendy Williams is going to love this story. She's been implying Megan is crafty for a while now.

Megan was obsessed with Princess Diana as a kid. She broke up with her last husband via letter. She's snubbing her own doting and loving father from her wedding. Her mom will be walking her down the aisle instead. I can see why her father's side of the family is upset.

The rumors of an annulled marriage have been in the DM comments for a long time, but there's been no substantiation. Wouldn't Andrew Morton have uncovered something if it were true? Wouldn't her brother or sister know of its existence (even if they weren't invited to that one either)? Imagine the money they could have made selling that story?

Meghan Markle may well be crafty. The dad may be "doting and loving" but I don't know the origin of this particular fact. Wendy Williams is a blithering idiot who is clearly jealous of this girl.

It's not hard to check for marriage records these days, in England at least. In the USA it's probably done by State. But if there was a marriage there's a record of it.

Fuck Wendy Williams, how the fuck did she become a part of this conversation?

Could have been one of those 24 hr Las Vegas get-married-on-a-whim marriages where you sober up the next day and get an annulment.

OMG, do you not read, R56 - Megs gushed over her dad, and boasted about how much he spoiled her, on her own social media all the time.

R54, her mother's family is upset too. Her mother's brother is not invited and didn't think his sister, Meghan's maternal aunt, was invited either. Apparently being poor and unsophisticated or whatever, they are not "on brand" - Meghan herself has admitted that she is always striving to be "on brand" and those around her, like her former best friend and her former agent, have told tales of her pretentiousness.

There are confidential marriages in the US that would take a court order to access.

Don’t have a dog in this fight, but I’m pulling up a chair and bringing a cooler for it.

[quote]Meg didn't invite her uncle who got her the embassy internship either and he never talked to the press

She's a thankless bitch.

More than happy to use her connection (her father's brother) to intercede for her to get a job that others were in line for. (She was late in applying.) And careful to use that job on her resume.

But entirely thankless toward the person who went out of his way for her. And ignoring him and his kindness and help by refusing him an invitation to such an important event as this wedding.

Undoubtedly some of her relatives are trashy, but this uncle was not and her not inviting HIM shows you exactly who she is.

No excuse at all. She's a thankless, selfish bitch.

Is the ceremony going to be broadcast ~ or will just see the plebs standing on the street outside etc...and then some waving?

OMG, r60, no I do not read Meghan Markle's social media posts. Try to remain calm.

I think the ceremony will be on TV, as well the carriage ride. She's probably pissed that she's not getting the kiss-on-the-balcony-over-the-crowds photo op.

Who knows how many social media accounts she had. She was recently outed as a snarky actress blogger who bragged about her "magical boobs".

[quote]. She's probably pissed that she's not getting the kiss-on-the-balcony-over-the-c - rowds photo op.

yes, weird it's not going to be in London.

there was a reason, I've forgotten.

There will be at least 6 hours of cover across most UK channels including the ceremony itself.

She'll soon grow annoyed with Harry. It sounds as if she expected--and received--from her dad more than the dad gave his other kids. Harry's just the opposite. He expects--and receives--less from his dad than Charles gives his other son.

I love Merkel. She's perfect for Harry. He revels in drama

^ Is he engaged to Angela Merkel??!!

All you pearl clutchers, you are aware that Kate Middleton's uncle is a notorious drug dealer and pornographer?

It's a bit weird that so few of her family have been invited.

That rather sounds alarm bells to me.

R73 huh? She only has a mother and father. Her half-siblings are 20 years older than her, she probably had little contact with them.

You would think the royal family would do better vetting after some of the past mistakes. It seems like that’s all gone and anyone off the street can join now. Maybe people are right about the Queen believing they will close up shop after she’s gone and so it won’t matter.

Regarding a previous 'secret' marriage, are there not always those with knowledge, willing to sing for $$$?

[quote] are there not always those with knowledge, willing to sing for $$$?

MI 6 is always one step ahead.

Diana was "fully vetted" and look how that turned out

Diana was a 19 year old virgin. There was nothing to vet.

I'd love to live in Mexico by myself. Am I missing something?

Geez, I'm not a fan of Meghan's by any means, but I'm beginning to root for her to have a successful marriage, so she completely cut off those horrible family members who keep selling stories to the tabloids.

[quote]Diana was a 19 year old virgin. There was nothing to vet.

except her hymen

[quote]so she completely cut off those horrible family members who keep selling stories to the tabloids.

if he'd married an English girl (gurl), they'd be easier to deal with.

English people can be "silenced" - so can the British press.

But this American thing is a total fuck-up!

Not to worrry, lads.

Sparkle is faking her affection --just look at her eyes.

She is mistress material at best.

William married a whore and now Harry will do so as well. A hell of a shame.

Harry's not as dumb as he looks. I must admit that he has chosen well. May they have life-long happiness. Although, commoners are a mixed bunch.

Hope it POURS buckets of rain on their wedding day and Meg's hair goes "au naturel'.

Right there with you, R61. I love this messy Bitch. We have Germans sitting on the throne of England. The brother of the would be king is a pedophile. The husband of the queen is a pussyhound, Charles wished to a tampon in his mistresses cooter, and both Charles and Camille are drunks. Cathys uncle is a drug dealer, she and her sister social climbers, Harry's dumb as a rock.

Delicious. Let the games begin.

It'll be interesting to see what their kid looks like: 1/4 black, 1/2 ginger.

The genetic crapshoot here is interesting.

I said right here on the DL, years ago, that he'd marry an American.

How right I was.

If one person, loves Meghan, I bet it's Fergie. People acted like she was the trashiest person to marry into the Royal Family, but Meghan and her family is making Fergie look positively regal.

Right on all counts, r88. But you forgot --- Uncle Gary likes to beat up his wife on streets of London.

"The Duchess of Cambridge’s uncle, Gary Goldsmith, was charged with assault by beating last night after allegedly punching his wife.

Julie-Ann Goldsmith, 47, was found injured outside their home in London after the couple had returned from a night out in the early hours of yesterday. Mr Goldsmith, 52, the younger brother of the duchess’s mother, Carole Middleton, was released on bail last night after he was taken to a police station for questioning on suspicion of domestic violence.

The incident happened shortly before 1.30am after the couple had returned by taxi from a charity auction at Home House, a private members’ club in central London. They were arguing as they were driven to their home in Marylebone. understood."

...Errrrrr, dunno about that, r91.

Re-posting photo of Uncle Gary on night of assault of his wife.

I don't care. I am happy for her. she gets what she wants and he gets what he deserves. Go fuck up the Royal family please!

[quote] "The Duchess of Cambridge’s uncle, Gary Goldsmith, was charged with assault by beating last night after allegedly punching his wife".

The bitch probably had it coming.

Charles will be doubling up on his martini quota. Just to cope.

You Americans...still bitter, I see...

I love you R61! Let's drink to this shambles.

3rd esky, next to r61 and r99.

Wow! Almost 6000 comments on The Daily Mail site. God!

Almost 6000 comments on The Daily Mail site. God!

EVEN THOUGH they are downplaying the story on the UK side of the site. But it's been the top story since afternoon on the US side.

[quote] Its EXTREMELY tacky for him to do this but we all know he is likely at least 50% correct.

Agree, but may be closer to 75% correct.

Megs is all over front page of Tatler.

Just noticed the best liked comment on the Daily Mail site:

I actually feel really sorry for her. Imagine this being your family? It's clear her Mum is the most important person in her life, and she's going to be there, so that's all that matters. I got married in Florida, without my Brother. However, he was thrilled for me, he didn't hate me for it. This resentment from her Father's side of the family is palpable. Acting like such losers.

6652 up-votes PLUS 2291down-votes

Megs' brother is spot on! Harry may be 33 years old, but he remains a silly child with not a lick of sense (Nazi armband, anyone?). This marriage is a fuck you to his father for the treatment of his mother. It won't last. Though I do hope there is a long, slow shot of the faces of the royals as Megs' mum is seated in the front row of the Chapel. It'll be priceless.

The more I see of her, the less I like her. She just appears very fake. Of course it might be because she is an American actress that we've seen a million pictures of from before all this. I don't think it will last, but I think she'll pop out a couple of kids. I like Harry's charitable work, but he seems like an ass otherwise (yes, I too remember the nazi armband).

she is an actress, most of them are wack jobs mentally and so self involved and everything is ME ME ME. make one innocent comment and they will over analyze it to death and ask you a million times, what did you mean when you said...etc, also hypochondriacs. He will get sick of her quick.

He loves the fact that she loves the attention, most nice girls he met don't want the "baggage" as he has said so many times. He will definitely cheat on her. He is into blondes. But he is also a spoiled immature child so she will have her job cut out for her.

They deserve each other.

He must really hate her to write this.

If what her brother is saying is true (and I believe it is), Harry is clearly marrying his mother.

All of the negative qualities attributed to Megan apply to Diana. Insecure, emotionally high-strung, manipulative. Harry did say if Di was alive, she and Megan would probably be best friends.

No point inviting her brother as with his criminal record he would be refused a visa. Does her dad have a record too? Her sister is a bitch, though.

[quote]I'm not a fan of Meghan's by any means, but I'm beginning to root for her to have a successful marriage, so she completely cut off those horrible family members who keep selling stories to the tabloids.

The siblings admitted they were not close to her so it's sad they expect anything from her at all. You can't choose your family. They could have easily been trailer park trash but as long as they were quiet about their relationship with her and had spent time with her/talked to her often over the years, I'm sure they would have been invited. It's obvious they're saying "screw it" by constantly giving these interviews for money. She'll never have anything to do with them again. However, I'd argue, they're doing it because she hasn't had anything to do with them for the past few years or more in the first place.

[quote]There's no record he didn't fully support her growing up, financially or personally. In fact I'd say he did very well by her. Now they may have rifted since her college days, nothing's been confirmed. I'm guessing that's led to this father-daughter situation.

The father, on the other hand, isn't saying anything. It looks like he was in communication with Meghan over the years. It's possible he just doesn't want to go or will be going but hasn't said anything about it. (Maybe the trip is too much for him. You never know.) That's the key: he hasn't said anything. He's doing what the siblings should have been doing in the first place. We have no clue how he feels because he is laying low like we wish they would.

Plus she's half, well you know

She would never have been allowed if this was William.

Will Harry eventually become inconsequential ala Andrew or will he always be at the forefront because he is Diana's son?

[quote] Will Harry eventually become inconsequential ala Andrew or will he always be at the forefront because he is Diana's son?

Probably kill himself driving drunk and stoned.

What does her [italic]brother[/italic] know about "royal wedding history"

Is he a history professor, or something?

this will end in scandal. (which is probably good for the monarchy. You need a little drama to keep it interesting. William and Kate are bland, seem happy togehter and have produced three heirs. Harry's job will be to stir things up. )

Yeah...they definitely called her "Nigger" when she was a kid. What a bunch of assholes.

"Mr Markle Jr, who was last year arrested for allegedly holding a gun to a woman's head during a drunken argument, said the bride-to-be is "probably embarrassed" by the attention on her extended family has brought with them since announcing her engagement."

What's all this "I'm not a fan" shit? Does she have actual fans? She was known prior to this? I know she was on that shitty USA show with Fishburn's ex-wife but was her role prominent enough for a base?

Here's the question: Would the half siblings be hard pressed for a wedding invitation if it were some completely unknown man she was marrying? I think NOT

The cunts that dislike her are going after her because she’s biracial. Same shit the racist cunts did to President Obama.

This girl will soon be married to British Royalty. Deal with it. It’s a done deal.

She’s crafty? So was Kate. Marrying a Prince who is to become King is no easy gig, I’m sure.

Meghan is quite pretty. She’s well educated, and fits in perfectly. If she were completely white, most of you racist cunts would be happy. And she basically is white, assholes. She speaks like a white girly, dresses like one, and acts like one. She grew up with white people. Culturally, she’s white.

Nothing anyone says is derailing this. So take out your white popcorn, and get ready for the white or off white wedding dress, because here comes the half black bride, cunts!

R122 = A racist condemning others for their racism.

They're going to trot around Windsor in a carriage afterwards so the peeps get to see the happy couple.

[quote]What's all this "I'm not a fan" shit? Does she have actual fans?

Yes, she actually has fans .I'm one of the posters who wrote "I'm not a fan" about her. But there are other people who seem to be cheering her on. I have no idea what their investment in her is. Hell, I even bought the commemorative coin for their wedding. But that's because I think the marriage will 'something else', I honestly hope they're happy, I ordered some Ukrainian Easter Eggs at the same time I ordered the Commemorative Coin (since I'm a silly old queen).

More, R72!

R122 I dislike her and most of my family are a damn sight darker than she is. Are you really so stupid as to think a manipulative attention seeking cunt can *only* be disliked because she’s ever so slightly suntanned? Fuck off you ridiculous asshole.

R122 just wants attention, so I’ll give it to them. I’m neutral on Markle. I think she’s very pretty and clever, she’s a shameless attention whore, and her family is awful.

None of these things have to do with her race. Unlike some OTHER people, some of us aren’t obsessed with race.

The Royals are so awful - rich and entitled and stupid. It would be fun if something really awful happens. Good luck to Meghan - I hope is having fun !!

Meghan is literally the best possible option for Harry. He could not have found a better match.

[quote]Meghan is the best possible option for Harry.

Fixed. "literally" is superfluous and misused.

I am surprised nobody from Northwestern has spilled anything about her. I overlapped with her and had a few friends in Kappa Kappa Gamma...though I haven't talked to them in ages...so I wouldn't bother with it now. It's not that hard to tell she seems like a bitchy, fake, social climber. As a college student, that personality was probably different to an extent.

She also claims she heard many "racist" comments at NU because people didn't realize she was black, so they said things in front of her. It strikes me as very odd, considering I cannot remember a single racist comment in 4 years. People just were too dull for that on one hand, and on the other hand, that school didn't really attract that type of person.

Meghan has a pattern to ghost people when they're not useful anymore.

Basically it's what her brother is saying. He tried to contact her, she gave him the cold shoulder, then he spoke to the tabs.

The family is trash and Meghan is an asshole. If she had been just a bit nicer and wrote a nice e-mail to her brother explaining she couldn't do much, we would not be here now. But no, she said she doesn't know him. Well, now you pay bitch.

Weddings, even ones that aren't high-profile, are tricky with fractured families. His letter is only intended to embarrass his "family" because you have to be pretty dense if you think Prince Harry is going to pick up InTouch, read a letter and call of his marriage. I have a family member who married and the invite was something everyone wanted to covet. It was ugly. The question was always, "How could she not invite X?!" Or, "I can't believe how she jumps for X, but won't bother to return a call to her own family." While some say Meghan should have acknowledged her family members, I suspect they only acknowledge HER because of her future. These siblings, 20 years her senior, where were they when she was "starring" on Suits? Did they attend her first wedding? Maybe her dad was the one that bridged the relationships and when he moved to Mexico, that connection was no longer there and it was easier for everyone to float away in different directions. Can't wait for this brouhaha to die down.

R134 They claim she dropped them when she started doing Suits. Just like she dropped her husband and childhood best friend around the same time.

There's people in my family I didn't see since more than 10 years, but I would invite them to my wedding.

Meghan didn't just ghost the father's part of the family, but also everyone who isn't her mother. And she doesn't even look close to her mum.

I get that people are not close to their family, but Meghan seems to be totally clueless about how to deal with them.

And the fact that her father is not invited doesn't look good.

R136 after seeing their reactions, it seems obvious why she didn't invite them. They are trash. She's best just ignoring them and hoping they die soon.

R132 were you a popular kid who hung out with sexy and attractive people, including drama students? Your experience may have been somewhat different if you weren't popular.

R138 Eh, curb the projection a bit here.

90210 is not the real life you know.

You can see this coming long before it gets here.

"Megs' heartbroken Father cruelly denied"

"My Sister Didn't Want Me There - Megs' Brother's (Sister's) Anguish"

"On the day of Meg's second marriage, her first husband speaks out"

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer....

Meghan's not the brain she pretends to be.

R139 = unattractive and has no friends so doesn't understand that others may have different experiences

R140 "Meghan's entire family dies in freak snowboarding accident days after her wedding nuptials"

R142 Fat frau in her parent's basement and who knows life trought bad tv shows.

R142 R144 Will you two get a room and give it a fucking rest!

[quote]Meghan is quite pretty. She’s well educated, and fits in perfectly. If she were completely white, most of you racist cunts would be happy. And she basically is white, assholes. She speaks like a white girly, dresses like one, and acts like one. She grew up with white people. Culturally, she’s white.

You mean it's unlikely she says "Gurl, please..." ?

THOMAS: Harry, you in danger, girl.

r138, nobody in Kappa Kappa Gamma was that "popular" for one thing. They were average looking girls, and NU was not the type of place that had a hierarchy like 90210 as pointed out by r139. But if anything would be considered "popular" - then it woudl have been Tri-delt. The girls there were generally considered far more attractive. Anyway, what "experience" are you referring to? The racism? What does "popularity" have to do with it? You think more "popular" kids are more racist at Northwestern or would it be the other way around? And what are the reasons for your assertion? Let's see you make more false assumptions...

Finally, exactly what "sexy and attractive people" are you referring to at NU? Maybe 50 people would fit that description - spread out on a very large campus, where we were forced to be covered up in winter clothes from head to toe for 1/2 the school year. This was not Arizona State. It's a nerd school. Always was. And yes, I had tons of theater friends (hello, look where I am posting) who were marginally more attractive than the rest of NU, but Billy Eichner was a theater major at NU - so work that into your "sexy and attractive popular theater kids" equation & get back to me.

Meghan has so many haters because you all wish you were her. She is loving this moment. Let's face it, the Royal family was getting dull. She is already shaking things up

I’m more worried for Markle than Harry. The Windsors are batshit crazy and life their lives in a dysfunctional gilded fishbowl. I hope she’s up to it all. There’s a good reason why three women were engaged to Harry and three women walked away. She should really think about that...

What’s the wedding date? Aren’t they marrying this month?

R150 They couldn't handle him. Pretentious heiress' were who he thought he wanted. Instead he realized he needs someone real, fun, and down to earth. They are the perfect match

May 19th . I'm looking forward to their wedding because I can't wait for the shit show that will be the divorce .

R149 Clearly you're the one here who wish to be her.

Dealing with Nazi Harry, paps 24/7 and his dysfunctional family? No, thanks.

R152 Are you not waited on Celebitchy????? Let's kiss MM's ass Central has already opened you know.

Harry isn't a Nazi dear, as you well now. He is immature and sometimes foolish. Another reason stuck up debutantes were never the right choice for him.

They will be married longer than any of the other Windsors save Betty

I love the siblings and I hope they never stop. Meghan is so phony and vacuous and such an obvious opportunist, I wish every bad thing for her. BUt Harry is clearly acting out and this choice is sheer destructiveness, I hate the fact that disliking Meghan automatically makes you a racist. I am sure that she has been blackmailing everyone into silence with racist accusations all her life, when people dislike her personality. HEr family is like a Greek chorus.

Harry, his grandmother, his great grandmother and his Uncle David are all unashamed Nazis.

He should have married an upper class American girl (gurl) - an Astor or something like that - you know, like Winston Churchill's mother, who made a great success of it.

No one is jealous of Meg. Who seriously wants the fishbowl life married to a not so bright balding ginger? Royal life is not really glamorous, it's a bore. Another hospital opening-JOY! Summer at Balmoral-get me to a beach! Her life before him was much preferable. She had money and freedom didn't have to deal with royal protocol. She got attention but it wasn't the OTT kind the royals get. Much, much better situation.

And the only people who care about her race are those who accuse others of not liking her because of her race. She's a user and a phony. She treats people (and dogs) poorly. That's why people don't like her. Her race has nothing to do with it.

R156 People don't wear Nazi armband for the fun. The only idea he did it for fun says enough about who he is.

+ The long going fascination for the Nazis in the family + the racism of the older generation.

Yeah, sure, everything is fine.

Meghan seems to be loving the royal life so far. And she and Harry are clearly overwhelmingly fond of each other

Harry looked completely miserable at all of his events with Meg.

R162 They said the same thing about Charles and Harry's mum too in the beginning.

R161 Sadly some people do think it's funny or edgy to wear Nazi memorabilia. It's good that he was slammed. But that behavior isn't something unique to him.

[quote]But that behavior isn't something unique to him.

No one said it was. But it does illustrate Harry's appalling judgement skills.

you're all so invested in this, and so ready to fanfic every detail of their lives. it is to laugh.

Did R167 miss the memo about DL being a GOSSIP site??

Why would anyone who hasn't even see you in 7 years, or even three years and you have no relationship with them, expect to be invited to your wedding? I have a huge sprawling Italian family. Both of my parents came from large families. We have siblings, and cousins up the wazoo. I have first cousins I wouldn't recognize on the street. No one invites everyone to a wedding. Depending on who it is we might get an announcement about it, usually arriving a few days after the fact, but not always. People's lives move in different directions. Usually close friends have priority over cousins or even half siblings you haven't even seen in years.

There's up to 600 persons invited to the wedding. You think she's close friends to those 600 people?

If she can invite people she doesn't know at all or met 1 time, she could also invite her family, no?

R157, I have to ask: why do you wish every bad thing on someone you’ve never met? None of us here know any of these people, unless you do, and haven’t declared as such.

The woman is pretty boring and non controversial by Hollywood standards, so I don’t understand it when people like you wish her bad things.

It’s really creepy. It’s like if I sat here saying awful things about you, wishing you the very worst, yet I do not know you, and you’ve done nothing to deserve my rancor. I’d be a fool and an idiot to badmouth you and hold ill will toward you.

I doubt she has very much control over the guest list, r170. Still, I'm sure she could have invited this vulgar, ragtag step-family if she had wanted to--but she didn't. The story tells itself.

R172 Well, she didn't and now it bites her ass.

I don't think it's biting her in the ass R173. Who cares what this trash thinks. They couldn't even score People Magazine. Just InTouch

I'm sure these people would have found ways to embarrass her if she had included them. They clearly don't know how to act and have very little self control.

R175 is right. They are acting like this because it's who they are. It has nothing to do with Meghan

Honestly, if the Windsors weren't royal, and were just rich people involved in all the exact same affairs and scandals, you would all consider them far more trashy than Meghan. She and Kate (the commoners) are classing up the joint

Who's to say anyone here has a high opinion of the Windsors? Do we have to choose sides?

The royal family has always been trashy with Charles wanting to be a tampon inside of Camila, to Beatrice slashing people up. I find it funny people want to act like Meghan isn't good enough for Harry, I think they are pretty evenly balanced. At least she never dressed up like a Nazi.

R177, there must be something in the air today. I was just about to say the same thing. At least Meg's family didn't have Nazi sympathizers (that we know of) as their future king.

So, you all think The BRF is happy about it????? You really think they think nothing about this mess?

The BRF has a lot to deal with, they don't need trash Americans to run their mouths about them.

Lol, the Middlestons were called too middle-class for Kate to marry William, and here come the Markles.

I'm ure Charles and Camilla, The Queen, and Meghan's mother have people on that guest list. Plus the usual Spice Girls and Soccer stars.

[quote] The BRF has a lot to deal with

Yes, as we just said they have their own scandals and drama to deal with. I hardly think Meghan's family is a blip on their radar

As long as Posh Beckam is here, everything is alright.

I want to be a tampon in Charles's man-gina as he clenches his teeth throughout the ceremony.

Thank you R171. I agree. It's pervasive throughout all the Royal Wedding threads. It's more than our usual DL bitchiness. It's sort of pathological. Sick, really.

What's funny about the half brother and sister is that they're estranged from each other, too. Well, it looks like they finally found one thing they can agree on.

Can you imagine what would happen if Meghan did invite them. Imagine the headlines: "I was invited to the wedding, but I cannot afford a plane ticket and hotel." Then, the week after the wedding: "I went to the wedding, and Meghan didn't even talk to me more than 5 minutes." After the 2018 holiday season: "I traveled half way across the world to attend Meghan's wedding, and I haven't heard from her since." And then, finally,: "Meghan invited me to her wedding just for appearances' sake. She USED me!"

Still better than looking like an ungrateful bitch who snobs her father, father who paid for her fancy private school and good education.

Right r156, a silly and immature young man plus a snotty aristocratic debutante is hardly a match made in heaven.

R187 Is spot on. These people want to cause drama and they will do their best to do it regardless of what Meghan does. She doesn't need people like that in her life

LOL R187.

R33, why is Harry holding his mouth open in this VERY inviting way?

IFHF

Why doesn't the father try to shut his children the fuck up?

Why should he? After all, his precious daughter (supposed to be super rich) let's him rot in Mexico.

She doesn't want to have anything to do with him and he should police his other children?

The siblings are insignificant, no need to engage them at all

R179 the thing with Beatrice allegedly cutting someone with a sword DID NOT HAPPEN. He made it up to explain a more everyday but embarrassing mishap. She’s not that interesting.

This is a shit show for sure but you cannot deny that it will be a very entertaining shit show. Megs better study up on Fergie because that is her future

From R124's link...

[quote]“Prince Harry and Ms Markle are very much looking forward to this short journey which they hope will be a memorable moment for everyone who has gathered together in Windsor to enjoy the atmosphere of this special day.”

Don't forget to tug your forelocks, peasants.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Will Thomas Jr be seated fronted row left ?

I saw Andrew Morton on some show and he "strongly" suggested to Sparkle that she should change her mind and invite her family.

Because, he said, if she didn't, media sources would invite family members to come and do commentary on the day of the wedding!!!

I can just see Harry leaping out of the carriage and throttling one of Sparkle's family members as Sparkle points them out.

Media sources invited Samantha (?), Tom Junior and some people named Dooley some time ago.

I really am perplexed by how badly this matter of Sparkle's family invitations is being handled.

Of course, some of her family are trashy, but she always spoke warmly of her father. And her father's brother had a career with the State Department and she only got the embassy internship because of his help. I don't think we've heard anything from her mom's family either.

The Sparkle/Harry duo could have easily included some family members. Why would they refuse to invite any of them?

Did they think that this would go unnoticed? That people would not wonder why? Talk to family members?

What did they think would happen? And WHY DID THEY DO IT?

Plus that stupid "We're the family she never had" remark was rude and extremely stupid. And would only serve to insult even the most kind and quiet family.

Apparently they are both stupid and clueless.

[quote]r160 Summer at Balmoral -get me to a beach!

STAR magazine says they're summering in Malibu.

Excuse me if this has been suggested before but I was wondering if the father might be a junkie. Or mentally ill. Or both.

Maybe he spent all his money on Sparkle and owes the IRS big time?

I'd invite them all to the wedding. Then I'd put them on a bus and drive them to Scotland for some "sight seeing." I'd put them in lock down at some big palace or estate out in the country, confiscate all their computers, and cell phones. No Internet access. I would keep them there for four days. It would be a posh place and they'd have plenty of "servants" keeping an eye on their needs. They could ride horses, swim in a heated pool, get spa treatments, eat gourmet food, play scrabble, watch first run movies, do yoga, and every day there would be one two hour session on how to be a better person. Then once the wedding is over, they would be "escorted back to their homes. Yes. Not to the airport, but all the way to their homes. Of course they will tell the press. At which point you can say, "Well, since they weren't invited to the wedding, and they seemed so upset about it, we thought we'd treat them to a really posh weekend resort with all the amenities." This would make them seem to be ungrateful wretches, and they'd eventually be ignored.

I think the brother and sister have resented her their whole life. She did seem to get special treatment that they didn't get. But that's not really her fault. But he obviously has issues. It happens in lots of families. And then she manages to land the mother lode. He must be reeling. But, the letter was a total lack of class. He needs to move on in his life. This letter did not gain him anything. Time to get over it.

If special treatment means private schools and a 4-year college, maybe the kid was a good student and actually earned her education (and for that matter, who's to say she didn't get financial aid). And maybe the older half-sibs were always whiny slackers who got into trouble and couldn't have gained admission to these schools. Maybe Meghan's mom was an effective advocate for her kid and got the dad to cough up. Maybe the stepmother (is this the Dooley woman?) wasn't. There are often reasons why one kid appears to be getting more than the others.

Meg's niece, the one who the press always quotes defending Sparkle, is a Nazi sympathizer, R180 The DM has published the niece's journals (?) and other things in which she expresses her love for Hitler and the Nazi party.

Now the article about Megs' Hitler-loving niece has disappeared from the DM archives and the internet; no surprise, given that the recent National Enquirer story about Markle's secret first marriage has been blocked in Europe, the UK and redirects to RADAR ONLINE (but not the article) in most of the world.

The RF is erasing, erasing, erasing Smeg's past.

[quote]R205 Excuse me if this has been suggested before but I was wondering if the father might be a junkie. Or mentally ill. Or both.

Some Americans retire to Mexico because it's cheaper to live there, you can be by the beach, and there are even affordable servants if you've become too feeble to clean your own house etc..

It's not necessarily shady...

Is Breitbart posting on this thread too? Holy shit, go back to neoNazi heaven you assholes.

R212 I had that filth long ago blocked. I saw that there were posts not coming up on here

[quote]R210 The DM has published the niece's journals (?) and other things in which she expresses her love for Hitler and the Nazi party.

Wouldn't the Windsors warm to her, then?

R171, R186, I don't wish Megs harm, I just don't want her to get away with the con.

Have you ever considered that some of us who dislike Megs might have had family members or friends fall prey to the same type of narcissistic grifter and watched helplessly as their lives, and often their family's lives too, were devastated?

It is extremely difficult watching someone you love speeding head first into a wall, and, while I don't have any love for Harry (I do feel sorry for him for having lost his mother in such a brutal and public way) it really irks me that Megs gets away with so much.

I hate the fact that she uses desperately poor brown people as props in her "humanitarian" photo ops. Harry does too, but I think Harry actually cares a tiny bit.

It also irks me that Sparkle sugars are so much like Donnie Dump voters in that they will ignore the glaring personality flaws, excuse all the mischief and skullduggery, and hurl spurious accusations at those not in love with her, in order to blindly worship at her alter.

Seriously, people need to stop inventing her excuses each times she fucks up.

Her father is a junkie now, 2 weeks ago her ex was abusive.

She's a bitch, no need to sugarcoat it. She has everything to be a DL icon.

The Dooleys are her half-bro Thomas's two sons, who took their mothers maiden name a long time ago (no explanation - maybe they don't like dad?). One of them is a pot grower in the Pacific NW, he's come out saying he's going to create a strain of "Markle Sparkle" to sell. Classy x10. They and their mother have made the media rounds but have always complimented Meghan.

The crazy older half sis has two sets of kids: the 1st is completely estranged from her but somehow are very close to Meghan are expected to attend her wedding. She is esp close to her half-niece, who is some kind of attorney on the East Coast. There is a younger teenage half-niece from her sister's 2nd marriage who also doesn't speak to her mom, lives with her Grandmother (Tom Markle's first wife, who always says nice things about Meghan and Doria). That's the niece I believe who might have been caught out with the pro-nazi stuff.

Meghan's mom Doria has a younger half brother who is actually Meghan's age, who is invited to attend. Doria's elder half/full sibs are not apparently, and have been kvetching about it publicly. Some of them sold pics and stories to the DM and other tabs so that's probably why.

^^^ For the time being we don't know who is invited or not, no need to invent stuff to make her look good.

[quote]Meghan has a pattern to ghost people when they're not useful anymore.

Yeah...so does everybody else. I mean..the fuck?

[quote]Basically it's what her brother is saying. He tried to contact her, she gave him the cold shoulder, then he spoke to the tabs.

[quote]The family is trash and Meghan is an asshole. If she had been just a bit nicer and wrote a nice e-mail to her brother explaining she couldn't do much, we would not be here now. But no, she said she doesn't know him. Well, now you pay bitch.

Wow. This post is so ridiculous..it’s staggering. Maybe there’s a reason she gave them the cold shoulder--see my post at R18. I have no doubt that they treated her and her mother like shit. You see this all the time on court shows and other shitty reality TV. Why else would she not invite her siblings to her goddam royal wedding? It couldn’t be their appearance because she doesn’t even have to see them. Nah, this is a big FUCK YOU to them.

And have no idea how you come to your stupid ‘Well, now you pay bitch’ conclusion. Yeah...she’s REALLY paying for it. Chillin in Windsor Castle drinking tea and shit while Cletus and Peggy are smoking cigarette butts they find on the ground because they can’t afford to buy a pack.

I had never heard of her before this but from what I’ve seen...I like her and think they make a sexy-ass couple. She’s piqued my interest in the Royal Family again.

r218 not making her look good. Those are the few family member expected to attend outside her mom. I think the half-uncle confirmed he's going. Meghan had pics of her attorney half-niece all over her soc media up until recently, it's assumed she'll be there.

Yeah and her ex husband was abusive, her ex childhood friend was abusive, her ex PR was also abusive, her dogs were abusive.

That's why she ghosted them all, all those abusers in poor little Sparkle's life.

Cryyyyyy meeeee a riverrrrrr!!!!!!!!!

R220 No one besides Priyanka confirmed anything.

I so would appreciate seeing the siblings show up on wedding day to provide media commentary, but it will never happen. All ports of entry have been blocked to them by now.

[quote] I’m friends with some people who the tabs would love to hear about. And I know some shit, trust me. I’d never dream of calling the tabs, primarily, because it’s just plain wrong.

Spill it! We promise we won’t tell anyone.

A bigger mistake than Anne of Cleves?

My favorite uncle was the night driver for bot Harry and William for a few years when they were younger. I wish I had some cool stories from it to share but I don't lol Just what you would expect. A lot of waiting parked outside hotels after they have picked up randos

Was the sex with randoms while Wills was dating Waity, R226?

This is priceless: the hoi polloi charity workers who Megs and Harry invited to stand outside the chapel as a way of celebrating their charitable accomplishments (or rather, fill out the wedding crowd) have to bring their own food! The Windsors are too cheap to feed the outside guests.

[quote]So the latest news about the commoners invited to the royal wedding is really stunning in its declaration of who’s who and what’s what. Kensington Palace (probably using the retch-inducing phrase “reach out”) announced earlier this year that Meghan and Harry were going “to allow members of the public to join in their celebration”. Very special people representing “youth” and “diversity” and – whisper it quietly – poor people would be allowed inside the perimeter of Windsor Castle. This is not just a wedding, remember, this is an attempt to build a bridge between high society and well … society.

Here are the wedding guests Prince Harry and Meghan should really avoid Sam Leith Read more Twelve-hundred hand-picked “ordinary” people, many from charities that the royals support, will be let into the castle’s grounds. They will be there for hours and hours, and yet, it seems, they will not get so much as a vol-au-vent. Those who work with deprived and alienated people have been advised in letters from lord lieutenants “to bring a picnic lunch as it will not be possible to buy food and drink on site”. What? What kind of invite is that?

It’s one that absolutely makes clear what is happening. That’s what. It never had anything to do with altruism. These ordinary people will effectively be extras for the TV coverage. They’ll make up a crowd that will be beamed around the world. The royals’ net wealth is estimated at around £400m – but now let us bow down before our rulers and hope that a garage sandwich will tide us over.

Well, fuck. Did all those people standing around for Prince Edward's wedding get free food? I think not. Don't worry. If they're busing people in, they will have refreshments for them off site. That's how it's done. I have friends who live in London and they are not all caught up in this at all over there. They said when William got married they got a day off work and there were street parties all over the place. But this time no one gets a day off, so fuck a Royal wedding, nothing against Harry and Megs.

R187 is right, though. No matter what she does, it won’t be right and it won’t be enough.

They should just elope.

Wouldn't it have been fun if they had a Vegas wedding?

There is way too much negative bullshit about this wedding and I really think it's wrong. I don't recall anything like this before will and Katherine or Edward and Sophie. Not even Fergie and Andrew had to deal with this crap. First we have the side show put on by her so called relatives, then we have the Daily Mail and a few other tabloids finding fault and shitting on almost every decision, and getting into t he minutiae of wedding planning. WTF. The Palace ought to take this all in hand and deal with it. Let these two have their wedding in peace.

Hum, it's true they're super private and not thirsty at all.

Meghan never ever gave stories to tabloids.

Ok.... And Kate and her family never got shit before her wedding, etc .....

My only gripe: Megs has got to stop zeroing in on the camera where ever she goes, looking directly at it. It's undignified. The Queen Mother would have put a hit out on her for that shit!

The peasants are revolting! The dude in charge of Windsor wanted to clear the homeless from the path of Mr & Mrs Princess Harry. Homeless advocates are having none of it.

[quote]Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's wedding has become all about homelessness...Another big event on Facebook is the Royal Sleepover. Organiser Chris Dudley, 43, from Brighton, says he was really surprised by how many people are interested in sleeping overnight along the royal wedding procession route. "When I posted it to Facebook I imagined that I'd be able to get together a dozen or so friends to come and sleep out with me in Windsor on the night before the royal wedding in solidarity with our homeless brothers and sisters. I never imagined that so many would feel the same as me," Boyd said. So far 7.6K people have expressed interest and 1.1K say they are going.

"The idea that we could, or would want to, sweep the homeless under the carpet for a lavish royal wedding is, for me, utterly appalling," he said.

I'm just glad it's not the black relatives acting a hot mess!

Her African American relatives have given interviews and sold pictures, R235.

R231, the British taxpayer is on the hook for paying for this fiasco. Harry and Meghan could have a private wedding, but instead have demanded a palace wedding and a carriage ride that will cost at least 20 million pounds in security costs.

And the Express, the Daily Mail and the BBC are all giving the couple a tongue bath today. Guess you never heard that both Meghan and Harry had their lawyers threaten the UK press?

In fact, this wedding is estimated to cost more than Drippy and Dopey', even though Dopey is heir to the throne.

[quote]Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are spending millions more on their wedding than Prince William and Kate Middleton did

R234, it’s getting more and more interesting. “Solidarity with our homeless brothers and sisters”. I love it.

[quote]It started out with a [.....] -- how did it end up like this?

The caption on R234's link could be used for everything — past, present, and future — involved in this shit-show. Just fill in the brackets.

With that said; more, more, more, please!

R231, what do you imagine The Palace is able to do about it? Can they put a gag order on all of us?

I thought those trees down the aisle for William and Kate's wedding were dumb looking. Nice idea on paper but it just didn't fit in the Cathedral.

With all the crap going on around the world I was looking forward to the lavish display. I think I'll just sleep in.

Cheers R171

r233 The same was said about Kate. r186 It's the loons that were banned from Royal Dish. It is no different than what they say about Kate, CP Mary of Denmark, Princess Sofia of Sweden ( especially hated), etc.

I wasn't really interested in this but the more shit I read on here from rightwing trolls, the more excited I get!

Oh do fuck off, R243. Are you and R186 all over other gossipy threads trying to spoil their fun?

Or do you just reserve your outrage for Sparkle, because the poor little mite is so misunderstood? And because the big meanies at the DL, a site she doesn't know exists, much less reads, are calling out all her shenanigans?

I have read the DL for years and have never once posted on Royal Dish or any other gossip site. However, after reading Royal Dish (the posters of which are actually much nicer to Meghan than they were to Kate) I have to agree that both Mary of Denmark and Sofia of Sweden are grasping, narcissistic, tacky fame whores in the vein of La Markle.

You can find copies of the pages from the Inquirer story about Sparkle's first husband here:

Oh no!! I hit a vein. YOU MAD r245? You can always tell who had been banned from that site.

[quote] I find it funny people want to act like Meghan isn't good enough for Harry, I think they are pretty evenly balanced. At least she never dressed up like a Nazi.

How do we know that considering how many identities she has assumed. One of them might have been an Eva.

It's reported that her father IS invited.

Duh R249--- Mr. Markle has been invited but "encouraged" not to attend

A hooker from Deal or No Deal would be a perfect match.

"There's people in my family I didn't see since more than 10 years"

I love that some gays HATE her so much they’re bathing in the rancid glory of this “news story” written in one of the biggest piece-of-shit rags in the known universe!

THAT’S the real fun of this whole thing. The white-hot intensity of their hatred. You could fry an egg on it!

What is Philip thinking? Will he attend the wedding?

Unfortunately, race mixed or non-white r eccentric And unpredictable. I bill Cosby or oj .have some adopted in my family. Harry needs to be banned from Britain. What if he married a bonobo??!

What the hell is wrong with you, r255?

We know

R187 won the thread LMAO

R231 I think Meghan is getting all this crap now because she's not been on the royal scene for long . Edward /Sophie and Andrew/Sarah also got married before social media . When Kate and William finally got engaged she had been talked , speculated and written about since 2003 , so 7 year for her and her family to get the shit treatment . Meghan had a year as official girlfriend and 5 month as fiancee so all the negative press has to be squeezed into a much smaller time frame .

For safety's sake, they should lock him up just before the wedding.

I'm serious.

[quote] Twelve-hundred hand-picked “ordinary” people, many from charities that the royals support, will be let into the castle’s grounds. They will be there for hours and hours, and yet, it seems, they will not get so much as a vol-au-vent. Those who work with deprived and alienated people have been advised in letters from lord lieutenants “to bring a picnic lunch as it will not be possible to buy food and drink on site”. What? What kind of invite is that?

Someone raised this question when these invitations were announced and the response was that the Royal Family was an expert on these kind of highly populated events (like Garden Parties) and all would be provided.

Apparently not.

I don't believe that her father wasn't invited. They even had a statement after the engagement announcement that said he would be there. Who would walk her down the aisle?

As far as the Nazism, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Charles doesn't appear to be a friend of the Jews either.

Access Hollywood said both parents would be attending the wedding.

I agree they are pretty equally matched. They both love the press. Harry does a lot more press, even though it's charity, then Andrew and Edward did when they were younger. I think the cost of the wedding is indicative of that. Of course, everyone thinks he's hot and that won't last when he loses his hair. This will be an interesting couple to watch as they age and get pushed out of the limelight by George and Charlotte. I think this is fun. Remember when no one knew anything about the BRF they didn't want known? No real gossip in the rags, they were the classy royal family wile the Raniers were just trash and a circus family. Then Diana and Fergie entered and the lid came off. Now the Windsors are a circus family too. I put it down to both Diana and Charles using the press and the tabs to fight their wars. Once you let them in it is hard to keep them out and the mystique all went away. No matter if the Queen likes Megan, she has to be horrified by her relatives and how they downgrade the whole royal affair. She must wish for the good old days when the press and tabs barely said a peep about how much her husband screwed around on her and when they would allude to it the masses didn't believe it!

Markle is desperate to have Harry's baby and has been floating around false rumors that Will and Kate are going to make her Louis's godmother. She also made up a sob story about her childhood to get sympathy from the royal family. Bitch is a fucking opportunist if there ever was one.

I wonder who chose the most inauspicious date of May 19th for The Wedding - the day Anne Boylen, wife of Henry VIII, was beheaded for adultery and treason, on hubby's command. (Divorce was frowned upon back then.) A rather well known piece of history in the UK - clearly Nutmeg didn't study any important nuggets of British/BRF history while researching the current BRF and her ginger Prince Henry. You'd think someone might have mentioned it to her by now... or will it be a last minute surprise? lol

I think I read that one of Harry's friends is getting married the same day? And the question was raised which wedding their mutual friends would choose to attend.

Did anyone else read this?

They're all going to go where's there's the journalists and photographs.

Asked my BF if he thought Markle and Harry would someday divorce and he said "I don't think I have ever been so certain about anything in my entire life." And I realized that I too know it is is 100 percent inevitable, as does every single one of you.

R269 made me LOL.

You never know. She could really get her claws in and hang on for dear life.

Oh please, Meghan and Harry are a better match for each other than almost any other high profile couple I've seen. You all want the divorce to happen because you are jealous

R271 made me LOL, too.

I’m neither jealous nor envious. I’ve been married for 16 years and live in the hetero married world. I know how it works. Even if they’re perfectly matched, a marriage under those conditions will be challenging.

But I’ll give it to Sparkles; she seems like a tenacious little thing. She’s not going to give up very easily.

Can we stop with the "you're jealous" argument?

Are people jealous when they call Kate lazy or say shit about Trump and Melania?

^^^A lot of them are, yes.

I agree Meghan is tenacious. She doesn't seem the least bit intimidated at the prospect of joining the royal family

Just like his great-great-uncle David, Harry is an emotionally fucked-up, immature kid who wants a domineering woman to provide the mothering he didn't get from his mum. His exes recognized this and said not having a bar of it, thank you very much. Opportunist Megs is willing to take on the role. She will tire of it quickly.

R274 You really think people here are jealous of Melania or Kate ???

I think Meghan enjoys her position of power in the couple. He needs a mummy, she needs to be in control, here they're a perfect match.

But I doubt it gonna last once Meghan will understand that the BRF will never give her what she craves. She'll always be second banana to Kate and it gonna eat her alive.

Interesting factoid about the Queen and the Tudors: Henry VIII was something like the present Queen's 16th great uncle, meaning his father Henry VII was the Queen's 17th great-grandfather. It was Henry VIII's sister, Margaret, who married then King of Scotland who was QEII's 16th great-grandmother. It must be interesting to be able to trace your lineage back over a thousand years. You all may now resume your trash talk.....

[quote]Just like his great-great-uncle David, Harry is an emotionally fucked-up, immature kid who wants a domineering woman to provide the mothering he didn't get from his mum. His exes recognized this and said not having a bar of it, thank you very much. Opportunist Megs is willing to take on the role. She will tire of it quickly.

Did you ever think your life would amount to this? That question applies to many of you in this thread who psychotically think you know these people.

Reeks of desperation on the brother’s part. He’s obviously got a score to settle with her and it’s obviouskg about money. Why isn’t her father telling him to shut up? Why isn’t the Queen telling Meghan’s father silence the brother or you’re not coming?

^^^^ Lol, really?

[QUOTE] She'll always be second banana to Kate and it gonna eat her alive.

Nope. Because Kate hates the public and so does William, and neither of them are well-liked. Harry and Meghan will be the ones to spread goodwill, because Kate doesn’t want to. Meghan has a perfect role now, she can act like she’s interested in opening up a soup kitchen. Kate can’t even fake it, she wants to be home.

Harry and Meghan will play second bananas in poor Commonwealth countries when William and Kate will get the prestigious tours.

William will be King, Harry gonna be the new Andrew and Meghan the new Fergie.

Moreover, H&M will be eclipsed by Georges, Charlotte and Louis.

It's a business with a strong hierarchy where the American commoner won't do whatever she wants cause she knows how to hustle for a camera.

I think Meghan wants them to be like Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, combined with Diana, traveling the world showing the dangers of landmines while sleeping at very private 5 star hotel resorts. I truly believe that while Megs has a general idea of what she thinks they are, she has no idea of what The Firm is really like or what she is really getting into. But maybe in about 5-6 years, when she is cutting a ribbon at her 2,000th Adult Day Care Center in some backwater community in Wales, she'll figure it out.

I think that's true r285 but I also think she and Harry really like each other. They seem pretty devoted to each other and have similar demeanors.

'this is the biggest mistake in royal wedding history'

Tell us about it!

"Meghan has a perfect role now, she can act like she’s interested in opening up a soup kitchen."

She's not that good an actress.

I think Harry is devoted, but I worry that Meghan is role playing. That is my worst fear about this whole thing. I hope she knows he will have to dial it back and settle in to her role asn the wife of. She can't be charging around with photo shoots and generating personal publicity about her style, and her breakfast choices, and how she's decorating their apartments. The RF is very careful in how it presents itself. How much is too much. I hope someone is schooling her. Because I think Harry is too besotted to exercise judgement and at times he will be too loyal to her, taking her part when what she wants is just not appropriate to her place in this firmament.

It’s making me laugh how in this thread every boring, tedious duty the RF carries out is situated in Wales. I’ve been there, you’re not wrong.

True. Wales is the UK's Siberia.

[quote]They said when William got married they got a day off work and there were street parties all over the place. But this time no one gets a day off, so fuck a Royal wedding

Well, Harry is just the spare.

R290 & R291 Hey, it’s not that bad!

This should be a spectacle and a half

READ the article R294. Specifically the first sentence, "The BBC [bold]UNDERSTANDS[/bold] that Megan Markle's father etc. In other words, fake headline/news.

I think Meghan also does seem devoted to Harry. They look like they have a lot of fun just in each others company. They don't go out and party much, just hang out together. And they both used to party far more before finding each other

"This is the biggest mistake in Royal wedding history." I'd have probed deeper by asking "Would you mind giving us all a short synopsis regarding Royal wedding history, Thomas?" He replies "Uhhhh, uuuuum. well....."

The Palace is finally moving its ass.

The father gonna be here to avoid any scandal and Meghan will be obliged to endure it.

Meghan is devoted to her new status and fame.

She would never look at Harry the Plumber, so give up the fairy tell.

Harry would also never have married someone with Meghan's exact personality and mannerisms who was unattractive. All adults seek attractive partners of high status. There's nothing wrong with them both doing it. And it doesn't preclude genuine romance

R295 It’s the BBC, not some tabloid rag like the Sun. Besides, it’s been officially announced.

R301 The Beeb is no diff to a tabloid if they're publishing unsubstantiated information that they have to qualify.

R300 Bullshits, she marries the status not the guy. I can understand it and even support it if she owns it. The only thing that annoys me is all the PR selling the incredible fairy tale and Harlequin romance.

As for Harry, who knows what happens in his brain anyway.

Food stalls and big screen tvs. Wow! That's hilarious! How appropriate. At least her half siblings will have something to eat.

I hope her dad does walk her down the aisle just to shut up his other kids. I really don't get the rabid hate for the girl here. I think they are both vacuous and no one would marry into that family, male or female, without an eye on the perks. Yeah, she loves it, isn't the quality person her PR has made her out to be (one BI said that early on in her career she did sell some stories to the paps to make money. I can see it, she is very ambitious) but neither is he. Basically, he's marrying the Deal or No Deal model, but I can't see the BRF putting up with her if he wasn't besotted. I mean, this is really a train wreck that has brought down the prestige of tge BRF quite a bit. I'm not a monarchist so I just love watching it and care less about "poor Harry" and what it does to The Firm. . I'm American so it just kills me this family is the worst stereotype of American white trash. But that's what the BRF gets for hooking up with their wacky and kooky American cousins!

R303 Assuming Harry does have more than one brain cell . He was always the dumb one .

Lol what makes you certain there isn't romance? You just don't want to believe it. You have no reason to believe she has no feelings for him besides liking his status.

How can a royal marry a mixed race person? Does that not contaminate the entire gene pool. Instead of blue blood we have black blood. And she is way too old. Women know you marry a guy at least five years older. Women age rapidly. She is close to the end of her reproductive life. She knows this. Marriage is doomed. Very calculating of her. And she is black. Black!!

Maybe cause he's Harry.

If the girl was not a huge social climber, why not? But look at what she has done all her adult life.

She certainly has the qualities to marry him (ambition and no qualms). Note that no one else would want him anyway.

R304 here. I'm sure there is romance and she loves him, but let's be honest - part of his appeal to anyone that would marry into that family is the status. She can love him and that he's a prince. Love isn't that cut and dried. Look at Diana - she really loved Charles? Everyone joked at the time about a pretty 19 year old s marrying him. Part if not most of her live for him was his status.

Exactly R309 You can want status in addition to real affection and love. You can want someone hot in addition to having real feelings for them. Saying it has to be just one is childish

Diana was a very naive girl. The BRF and her family sold her the big fairy tale, did she love Charles? I don't think.

Anyway it's not Diana here, it's Meghan, a 36 years old c-list Hollywood actress who must have known about casting couch. Maybe it 's what make her perfect for Harry.

Women can fall in love with money and power. Guys can't. Guys care about fertility and baby making hips etc. 36 is ridiculously old. She must have him bewitched.

R312 At 36, Megs can pop out at least 2 or 3 sprogs before the factory closes down.

It's true that women can be lusting for power. Go to any political meeting and you'll see it.

R 281, do you have control of everyone in your family, and what they say? I don’t understand all these people who say “I would never let my husband XXX” or “why don’t her parents get her some help? She should be in rehab!”

People do what they want to. Being a control freak must be exhausting.

Dad, please don't get drunk.

Apologies r293, there are some beautiful places in Wales. Just not where minor royals are cutting ribbons.

Dad I know I didn't see you or even phone you since years despite (or rather because, I should say) you needing money.

But please, don't fuck up everything and you gonna have your check.

This thread is hilarious, especially the clairvoyants here, who both know what these two people think amd what the future holds.

Here’s my tuppence worth, , based on what has happened before, not on my own mystic powers.

The Royal Family is absolutely not going to allow Meghan’s dodgier relatives come within a million miles of the Royal Family. They managed to keep Mrs Simpson at bay, and she was married to a former king. She may have made the press, but she could never speak with any real authority about current royal matters. The RF also dealt with Prince Philip’s Nazi relatives, Kate’s uncle, Fergie’s philandering father and dozens of other scandals by keeping the most egregious culprits far from the Palace.

The only ones who really matter are the relatives Meghan feels an emotional connection to, which seems to be only her mum and dad. They seem like decent people, and I fully expect them to be treated with every courtesy. They will have a marvellous few days in London, get to wave from the balcony (where the historic nature of the event, the first person of colour in the RF will get marvellous publicity) and then they will disappear from view until the christening.

I’m sure the ditch-dwelling brother and sister will keep trying to earn a buck or two, but with zero access, they will soon run out of stories.

Of all the places, and under all the circumstances which Charles could have proposed marriage to Diana, he takes her to the NURSERY at Buckingham Palace to pop the question. Pity for those who never learned to read between the lines. Diana knew the deal, and they were both guilty evidenced by the looks on BOTH their faces during the infamous "Whatever love means" interview.

I think he loves her. She's very pretty, and she's probably going to age very well. I think men will put up with a lot from a woman if she's good looking. For women, attraction is more emotional. It's hard for a a woman to maintain an attraction to a man who is selfish, childish, rude, or less sophisticated. I think that once the novelty of being a Princess wears off, she's going to be annoyed as hell with a spouse who is younger, more immature than her, and spoiled (having been handed everything he has). But...the castles, vacations, and fame will make her stay longer. I also agree with the poster that she wants to be seen as a globetrotting humanitarian. Why not let her have some of the glory trips; Kate sure as hell doesn't want to go anywhere.

Doesn't Meghan's sister have a Masters Degree in counseling? (Who would seek her out for family counseling now?) The tabs show photos of them together at the sister's graduation. The sister probably paid for her own Masters Degree since she would have been in her 30s/40s. But that means she must have earned a Bachelors degree at some point. I wonder if her dad helped with her tuition for the Bachelors degree.

Dad, please wear clean under pants.

So which attention whoring friend will try to smuggle a smart phone into the venue to talk pics ?

R320 Check out the Queen's face after Charles and Di's wedding. She knew the deal, and her face says it all. Skip to 09:44

I'm very surprised the spare is marrying a woman who is almost 37 years old. Rather long in the tooth, considering that he could have had his pick of many much younger girls. He must be in love.

36 is very ancient for a female. 30 used to be the cut off. At 36, she has to settle for a man inferior to her; Very inferior, if she wishes to hold onto him as life partner . Really, she almost has no sex appeal left when makeup is off. I almost suspect Harry is gay. This is an extremely odd situation. Harry certainly has self esteem issues. No one normal would choose half breed.

These Windsor don't seem to be able to leverage their status to snag pretty smart wives. Fergie was smart but fatter than a hippo. Both ferries daughters are giant and have serious medical conditions. Dianna was ugly and dumb. Camilla looks smart but is older than dirt. Kate seems pretty dumb but her sister looks hot. I'm not esl, BTW. Just inarticulate.

R327 and R328 Your Uncle Daddy is yelling for you to place a few blocks under your trailer. He needs the tire jack holding it up to change a tire on his '82 Chevy pickup

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Megs has oodles of self-promoting material floating around in cyberspace: her execrable blog and all her other social media - the woman did nothing without documenting it - videos at conferences, interviews, self-penned and self-congratulatory articles, her clothing line, commercials, speeches - she has shown who she is. She's not a blank slate, so people have formed opinions about her.

As to if this is Twue Wuv, despite Smeg not being able to open her mouth, or pick up a pen, without dense and incomprehensible word salad spewing forth, she did go to Northwestern. Harry has the IQ of a termite. That kind of brain gap doesn't suggest that she loves him for his intellect, but it does suggest that as she gets bored silly opening senior care centers in Birmingham, Harry's not going to be able to fill in the gaps in her life. At some point, his stupidity, combined with the rote and lackluster life of a minor royal, will send her fleeing.

She'll have the title, she'll have some money and, as she's shown she has no problem dumping loved ones, she'll probably have some kind of child who will be left in England but for whom she'll get some monetary support.

However, I predict that at least in the early years, Harry will raise such a stink, that the RF will give in and allow the couple to be "ambassadors" to countries that contain sunshine and heat, and beaches. Maybe Megs will get her never-ending need for adoration somewhat fulfilled playing Madame Bountiful to the native potentates.

BTW: R243, do you have ashes and sackcloth at the ready for when your invite gets "lost in the mail"?

Her dad is invited. He's walking her down the aisle. Kensington Palace confirmed this. As usual, her brother was lying. He doesn't know what the hell is going on. The dad doesn't talk to him. He's a lying , piece of shit, loser. His mom is on the outs with him too

You notice a pattern here folks?

Lol it will be fun watching you queens say the divorce is coming any day now for the next 20 years.

R332, Megs can't even tell us for sure what MONTH she met Harry, much less the day. The meeting story, and much else of the story of their Romance for the Ages keeps changing.

Her own written and oral histories contain dozens of incidences of her fudging the facts. Dog too old to travel? The dog was five.

Notice a pattern here, R332?

Any one who believed the brother was credible has let their Meghan envy drag them into delusion

It's good that the parent don't have a relationship with the other kids because if I was her parents and invited to the Royal Wedding, and the kids were not invited I would be O conflicted. I wouldn't know how to deal with it....I wonder if the mother will stay at Windsor castle over night? If not this time, certainly some other time.

r327 = Donald Trump

Kate hates the public and so does William. They are not beloved no matter what anyone here says. They will have to do even more public appearances when the become Prince/Princess of Wales and eventually king and queen, but they’re widely seen as lazy particularly Kate and not well liked. Not hated like Princess Michael, but not well liked. Harry is the bigger star with more personal touch. William has issues in public.

R338 - Harry is also lazy so there's that to consider.

Harry has real charisma. It never seems a grudging act like it does with William. That's why Meghan is a good match, she's also extremely outgoing

I see the "People HATE Kate so much" crowd from Celebitchy arrived in mass.

Quite typical, to make forget Meghan is a Z-list Gold digger, let's point how much Kate and William are odious and unpopular.

LOL how is Meghan a gold digger? She has her own money from a successful long running show. If she never worked again she could probably live off the royalties still

Please..... She's no billionaires and Suits is a shitty cable show.

I love how the Sugars are impressed by z-list career and Hallmarks movies.

Will and Kate are more popular than Harry and Meg.

Will is most popular. Followed closely by Harry and Kate is close behind. Meg is not popular, she trails them by double digits.

They need a glam squad stat to clean up that low rent daddy. He probably needs teefs.

I don't like Suits. I agree it was a shitty show. But it has lasted 7 seasons so far. You are deluding yourself to pretend that's not a commercial blow out.

Sounds like she has an awful family.

[quote] I think Meghan also does seem devoted to Harry.

I think it won't be very long before she is fucking around on such a scale that Diana and Princess Margret in comparison will seem like cloistered nuns.

Oh, please. Kate is popular because the public loves babies and little kids. Now that Kate has pushed out three kids, the public will have even more affection for her.

R346 Teen Wolf lasted 6 seasons and the only interest was shirtless actors.

SUITS is on cable and she wasn't a lead. Her salary would have been far from stellar and I'd be surprised if she gets more than a pittance off residuals.

She was also paying an agency to get her charity work in order to raise her profile, also an agent, maybe a manager, then all the costs for maintaining what appears to be an extravagant lifestyle, then there are taxes, so no, she is nowhere close to rich.

And if she were the multi-millionaress her fans claim she is, why didn't she help her beloved dad clear the really small amount over which he went bankrupt? Why didn't she help her beloved mom with her own bankruptcy (IIRC there were two)? And given her own OTT spending and her parents bankruptcies, she doesn't seem to have inherited good financial judgement.

She did basically nothing except small parts and allegedly calligraphy from the time she graduated from Northwestern until SUITS many years later - so who was floating her? Her boyfriend, then husband, probably, but at first, probably the dad who she didn't help out.

DM readers HATED Waity Kate, but since Megs appeared, opinion has shifted and now Kate the Lazy Flasher is regal and discreet.

I read she is worth $4 million.

She absolutely was a lead. She was even the primary love interest of the main character for multiple seasons. She received main billing every single season. I don't know this for a fact but I'd be willing to bet she has appeared in every episode of the series thus far. I'm not sure how suits being on cable is relevant?

And for what its worth Teen Wolf was also a massive commercial success. Whether or not you like a show (I liked Teen Wolf for a while, never could really get into suits despite trying) has nothing to do with whether or not it was successful. That is just based on ratings

Even the hard core Sugars agree she was a supporting character R353.

R354 Wikipedia lists her as main for all seven seasons. I think only the two leads got more screen time in the first two seasons which are all I watched. If everyone but the lead 2 are considered supporting, then I'd agree with that

Suits being on cable is relevant because cable shows don’t pay anywhere close to network shows. She made a decent living but she is not as well off as her sugars claim.

It's what it is, if you're not a lead, you're supporting.

As for success, the Bold and the Beautiful is on air since 40 years, doesn't make it quality tv.

Even though Nutmeg's name was fourth in the credits, she was on less this season than the red headed character. SUITS is a MALE dominated program. The females SUPPORT the male characters (wifes/girlfriends/love interests/work colleagues etc...).

^ wives

[quote] It's what it is, if you're not a lead, you're supporting.

Not how I think of it, but by this definition I would agree it's supporting. But she is probably the first or second in screen time after the two leads

[quote] As for success, the Bold and the Beautiful is on air since 40 years, doesn't make it quality tv.

I don't think Suits is quality, its the only legal drama I've ever not been able to watch even though I wanted to like it. That has nothing to do with commercial success.

We can agree that she was more than an extra.

Somewhere between “extra” and “supporting” on a cable show very few had even heard of is not a stellar career that will bring in residuals like Star Trek.

I still wouldn't even call her supporting if she was in every episode of the series lol. saying more than extra makes her sound like a recurring character who just made appearances now and then. Again on Wikipedia she is listed as main. And was a primary love interest for a while

I'm happy to know such an Empowered Feminist Princess played the "love interest" in a 3th rated cable show.

I never watched the show. Did her character have her own plot lines? Just because she was in every episode doesn’t mean she was a main character. How much air time did she typically get?

Meghan's dad to walk her down the aisle.

What a jackass.

^^Who, the brother, Harry, her dad or Meghan?^^

R365 Her character had her own plotlines in the seasons I watched. In the first two, she was trying to pass the bar and become a full lawyer rather than a paralegal. She was probably on screen 15 minutes an episode? She was the primary paralegal used by the two leads and then started dating one.

I enjoyed White Collar on USA network. It got 6 seasons. I don't get why they canceled it.

Thursday, May 03, 2018 Blind Item #1

A person who has spent time with the disgraced producer says the producer is having the time of his life reading about an upcoming wedding because he had sex with the bride.

So she's not a virgin? Shocking.

R372 the implication is she had sex with Weinstein.

Ewwwww.

Honestly, the royals have got off lightly with Meghan. Harry was never going to marry a Kate. He briefly dated a member of The Saturdays, FFS.

No, not Weinstein. She's way too Z-list for Weinstein.

I think the implication is that she had sex with Ratner. There's another blind about it, implying that she slept with Mnuchin too; Mnuchin had entertainment business deals with Ratner.

Then there's the alleged claims by NBC staffers that she and Matt Lauer liked to spend time in his office with the door closed. Before I read those rumors, I had seen video of her on TODAY with Lauer and I was like WTF? I don't watch TODAY, so is it normal for actresses so far down the totem pole to have cooking segments on there?

Kate's not some prize, R374- she's a lazy, conniving, doormat who waited around for years for her prince, doing nothing in the interim. Although she does seem to be genuinely fond of her kids, so at least she might be fulfilling that part of her role.

LOL R375 doesn't think anyone is good enough for her perfect royals

R375 - I meant that Kate is basically a cookie-cutter princess and future queen. She's bland and posh. Never in a million years would she badmouth William or her in-laws to the press like Diana did. Harry was always going to marry someone racier and more unpredictable than her.

Sorry, I don't see Meghan badmouthing any other royals in the press. She does not appear to be daunted by the press or media attention at all before the marriage, unlike Diana. She hit the lottery and she knows it. I would expect her to make sure Harry tows the line to stay in Charles and Camilla's good graces so their children won't be punted out like Eugenia and Beatrice. Likewise, she will want to stay in good with Wills. She will want her kids to be treated well.

Beatrice and Eugenie are Charles's nieces, Harry's children will be his grandchildren. I think they have more to worry about after William becomes King.

Also, no one expects this marriage to last. She going to pop out as many kids as she can to be set for life and then get the hell out of dodge.

You're barking up the wrong tree R378. Logic and evidence mean nothing to Meghan's detractors. They know in their hearts she is awful in everyway and nothing will change that

I don't think Meghan will badmouth her in-laws to the press either, R378 - that's why I said the royals have got off lightly with her as Harry's fiancee. It wouldn't have surprised me if he'd ended up with someone more tabloid-friendly.

R380, for the last year and a half, since Harry sent off his truly bonehead-move letter excoriating the press, there has been poster after poster on here linking to Meghan's words and actions themselves and yet you are saying her "detractors" lack "logic and evidence."

Fer Gawd's Sake, man, look at Meghan's own social media & blog, watch her interviews & speeches, read her self-penned articles (about herself mostly) - the proof that Meghan is a z-list, narcissistic grifter is all right there in her own words and deeds.

Meghan sugars are identical to Trump voters - they will cover their ears and eyes and and scream, "I can't hear you" when presented with clear evidence, originating from Meghan herself, that, far from being Saint Meg of Markle, Walmart Diana is playing the long con.

I don't get you Cinderella-fethishists. She's not you. She could give a shit about you. Do you spend your whole living through others?

And she, a supposedly proud, self-made, mixed-race feminist, is marrying into an institution that for a thousand years has defined nepotism, racism, colonialism and misogyny (except for Victoria and the two Elizabeths, but they gained the throne by default.

She will have to zip her lips and walk behind her husband for the rest of her life -- some feminist.

The cognitive dissonance of Smeg fans is headache inducing.

"... look at Meghan's own social media & blog, watch her interviews & speeches, read her self-penned articles (about herself mostly)...

Who does that? It's like following the Kardashians.

"Walmart Diana" "Smeg" "Z-list, narcissistic grafter"

Yup, you're motivated by logic and evidence and not irrational, baseless rage. My bad

All the shitty articles about Pippa being threatened by Meghan and all the articles about their relationship come from an "inside source".

If you look at the press coverage you'll see she has already started babbling to the press via the "anonymous source close to Meghan".

Welcome to the DL, R384, Home of Pointless Bitchery! Now go home.

R386 that's fine, then don't respond with an essay when someone says your bitchiness isn't based on anything.

Why are Meghan's fans called "sugars"? When did this start? Who started it?

Meghan might not bolt. Is she really going to find a set-up better than this one? Young girls are going "beatlemania" at Meghan's appearances, her mom is hanging out with Oprah and "Oprah's best friend Gayle"(TM) even did a one-hour news special featuring Meghan's sorority sisters. She's going to be the most glamorous member of the family. She has no competition. Kate is shy and dresses like a schoolteacher. The Yorks have already been marginalized. She's going to attend all the London movie premieres and mingle with the biggest celebs in the world, even the American stars who would have ignored her before. She should recruit Beatrice as her partner in crime; they could recreate mischief like Di and Fergie did back in the day.

And we're supposed to be the delusional ones....

Dial it back for fucks sake r388

[quote]She's going to be the most glamorous member of the family.

She dresses like she’s pulled some shit out of the desssing up box. Nothing fits. Nothings looks expensive. Nothing looks good. So far her choices have veered from basic bitch to ridiculously inappropriate.

I cannot fathom why Meghan Markle would give up a career to join that lot, who spend their days unveiling plaques, talking about horses, doing "charity" work (the real work is done by hard-working regular stiffs), having photo ops with random celebrities or sports figures, talking about horses, hobnobbing within a incestuous set of aristocrats and plutocrats, talking about horses, taking vacations, and talking about horses.

Just read the Beatrice was on vacation in the Jordanian desert with an odd assortment of models. Pray tell me what does Beatrice do to warrant a vacation? to me a vacation is a respite from work. What work does Beatrice Do?

Yeah, she's so glamorous with mud on her heels and her pants dragging on the wet ground. Bitch apparently lost her hair brush because her hair is a mess most of the time. And whoever told her all that blush she wears looks good was telling her lies. Poop hats and nipple hats are oh-so glamorous.

She's a mess.

The Windsor now have a negro in the family tree. If it can happen to Windsors, it can happen to any family.

That Meghan is a shrewd one. She's in her late 30's. She's probably already on IVF treatment so she can get pregnant immediately.

She's also a Leo which means she probably grew up dreaming of becoming a princess. Ambition is in a Leo's blood.

Of course, she looks at the camera with a big smile.

She is living her dream right now.

Fellow Leos: Madonna, Jennifer Lopez, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton.

The latest moves scream 'damage control'. Mom and Pop suddenly flying out to meet the royal in-laws just weeks before their daughter marries Harry. Harry suddenly 'keen to involve Meagan's family in the ceremony'. Pretty awkward after dim Harry publicly described the RF as "the family Meagan never had".

Love wins again <3

I have the feeling after the most recent announcements that "The Boss" as Harry calls his grandmother, called him in and read him the riot act.

Things were really running amok.

The media might be out for blood. Just goes to show how very stupid Sparkle and Harry have been with their anti-press campaign when Sparkle was barely a blip on the radar. And not just with extraordinary accusations from Harry out of Kensington Palace, but with Sparkle's lawyer too.

Very stupid and little awareness of what kind of reaction those things might draw.

I can't help thinking that the negative stories, even those with just a negative slant (like the one about York Cottage) will continue and escalate as the wedding gets closer.

[QUOTE] No one normal would choose half breed.

You tell them Boris!!!!

There will be no prenup either.

[quote]R236 Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are spending millions more on their wedding than Prince William and Kate Middleton did

Meghan Markle was on the hit TV show SUITS for six years. She is a star.

Stars don't come cheap.

So Sugars if Meghan is so rich, why is Charles paying for her 100.000£ wedding dress?

Kate's was more expensive but her family paid it.

To be clear, I have no problem with Charles paying it, he does what he wants with his money but perhaps we can't stop with her and Harry being super rich. They're not and like all the others the taxpayers gonna pay for them.

By the way, why is their wedding is more expensive than W&K's ?

R401 Who are you addressing?

All the people posting here saying she's rich as fuck after 6 years playing second bananas in "Suits".

All the Royal photographers are pissed off with the BRF and H&M wedding.

H&M gonna pay and pay and pay for their arrogance.

R401 to give Concerned Citizens like yourself something to do with their wasted lives?

R405 Stay pressed

Wow R87, racist much? Hate negroid hair? You a limey? You DO know your people brought those folks with the textured hair (African cuz I gotta spell it out for you) to a FUCKING SECONDARY LOCATION. How good you must feel to mock her hair. As if black people don't get enough of that shit already. Go fuck yourself.

R406 sorry I don't speak troll, so whatever you said is meaningless. I assume it means your mangina is moist at the thought of misery and you want to sit on a traffic cone.

Wow R407 - illiterate much? The word is “because”. “Cuz” is not a word.

Idiot.

R409 writes using a quill and monocole from the year 1722. His words somehow wind their way through time to find us

R407 You're just sorry cause Meghan is not the "greatest most perfect woman ever" like the press pretended she was.

R411 I don't think anyone cares as much about Meghan as you. Have you considered therapy?

R412 I'm here for the entertainment, not to live by proxy.

In fact, I believe you are here to wallow in your own crapulence.

Why is OBama always called black and Markle is called mixed race?

bBecause USA and UK are not the same countries

Where's waldo??

There she is! 19 years old, before the glam squad. I can't find my other yearbooks... but she only appears on this page in this one (per the index). I think the other ones might be at my parents' house somewhere. I can't believe I even found this. It hasn't been opened in 20 years. It actually cracked.

So, r138 - you can see everyone she hung out with was super "hot, sexy, and popular"... mmhmm, welcome to Northwestern.

Megs' Kappa Kappa Gamma sisters include Ashley Judd, Gena Rowlands, Barbara Feldon, Annabeth Gish, Mariska Hargitay, Kate Jackson, Jo Ann Pflug, Kim Stanley, Ann Bannon (Lesbian author), Jane Pauley, Maureen Orth, Nancy Dickerson, and Kirsten Gillibrand.

Lol, that's funny. Try to find the other ones.

I think R419 means across the country, e.g., Ashley Judd went to the University of Kentucky, Gena Rowlands went to the University of Wisconsin, etc...so they're all "sisters" in that sense.

So Harry will meet his father in law one week before the wedding.

How is it non-dysfunctional?

Someway I pity Meghan, Kate has a very strong family support and she can go to her family whenever she wants. And the Middleton are great with the kids. Meghan will have no one to turn to, no support, nothing if things go wrong with Harry.

[quote]Meghan will have no one to turn to, no support, nothing if things go wrong with Harry.

History repeating itself.

Meghan isn't even having a maid of honor a her wedding. Does she really not have one female she is close enough to to ask? Very odd.

Some families are just not all that close. I find people who grew up with a large, traditional family around them tend not to realize that not all families are like that. I only have my mother living anywhere near me. The rest of my family I see once every 2 or 3 years. I have many half siblings from my father that do live near me and none of us communicate. We could if we wanted to but we don't. I wouldn't call it dysfunctional. It's just how we are.

Meghan's estranged family members have spent almost no time around her. They don't know anything about her. It's impossible for them to.

It's the traditional royal way, Pippa being Kate's maid of honor was the exception to the rule.

Meghan is not the rule breaker she pretends to be. And Jessica "fake lips" Mulroney is her BFF, I guess the BRF didn't want her on camera for the world to see her tackiness.

R425 The brother says that they were all close when Meghan was growing up. And even the sister took exception the "family she never had" line. The brother says that she dropped them all when she started to have some success on Suits.

R425 When you deal with the BRF you need a strong support.

Her family is away and her friends are just as fake and phony as her.

If she needs some days away from Harry and the others, where will she go? I doubt she can go to her parents discreetly like Kate.

R427 I spent many Saturdays with my half siblings until I was about 12. I haven't seen or spoken to them in over 14 years. I would still say they know nothing about me. I know nothing about them. It's the equivalent of a classmate you had until 6th grade coming out with an interview saying they know your marriage is a huge mistake.

R428 When you don't have a traditional family, you usually develop a strong circle of friends.

Harry has met her father. Harry flew over there to meet him.

She doesn't have a strong circle of friends, her BFFs are in the US or Canada.

She has no circle of friends in the UK, just Harry and his friends.

R430 Sure Jan

Harry will have a best man (or "supporter" as they call them) and Meghan won't have a maid of honor. That makes it lopsided.

R428 She has taken plenty of time away from Harry already. They haven't spent long stretches together without one or the other going somewhere separately. She's gone back to LA and Chicago and Harry went off hunting and to Africa just during the short time they've lived together. And then there were the "hen" and "stag" parties. So they have had their time apart.

It's one thing when people naturally drift apart. Yes, that happens all the time after you move or switch schools or jobs or whatever the case may be. Do you pretend you don't even know those people? If one of them suggested that you meet up would you ignore them?

Meg has been accused of "ghosting" multiple people. She dropped her childhood best friend and her family except her mom when she started doing Suits. She broke up with her husband by mailing back the rings around the same time. She ghosted the agent who she was friendly enough with to take vacations together. She supposedly broke up with Cory by text. It's what she does to people (and dogs) when they no longer serve a purpose or they are not "on brand".

R391, There was a truly bizarre CDAN Blind of why Beatrice made vacation trips to the Mid East with other "models" and who paid for them. There are even more Blinds re MM and Prince Harry, how they really met, and the nature of their union. Almost as shocking as The Black Child/The Black Child Re-Upload "MM Get Out Now" and "Get Out Now Part 2." Then again it could all be made-up gossip designed for click bait as some on DL always claim. Otherwise everything you read on DL on this thread would all be a lie just like all the leaked info in the paps.

[quote]Pray tell me what does Beatrice do to warrant a vacation? to me a vacation is a respite from work. What work does Beatrice Do?

That's the thing.... she doesn't do anything. Can't even get a man. She seems to have no talents, no imagination and she can't even dream anything up.

If she was clever, she could build an enterprise like starting her own gallery, or galleries, to showcasing the art of emerging young artists, and building a foundation to send them to art schools... a small but dignified enterprise that actually goes a little good but doesn't require her to have too may brains. It would be a respectable contribution that would get the press and the country off her back. Instead she just swans around aimlessly. For the sake of perception I don't know why Charles doesn't buy her a coach to figure out some kind of plan she can work with, so she doesn't look like such a ridiculous anachronism. It's so frustrating.. if anybody had the network to conceive and start any kind of venture it's this one and yet she appears to do nothing.

At least her sister found someone to marry and can enter obscurity hiding behind wife and mother. Quite how she managed it on her own I don't know. In a way I blame the two idiot parents... Prince Andrew's judgement speaks for itself and their hopeless mother isn't far behind.

This guy is just a troublemaker who probably hates his sister because she hasn't handed over a ton of money to him "because I'm family". He needs to keep his yap shut.

And deprive us of a good laugh?

You know that it’s normal for royal brides to have bridesmaids r426? If she isn’t having any attendants it will be a first. The queen, princess Margaret, Diana, princess Anne, Kate, Sophie Rhys Jones.... they ALL had bridesmaids.

In posh wedding, the role is often play by children. It's not against the etiquette to not have one.

Whatever the brother says, the daily load of bullshit from the KP press office (all of which sounds Americanized) is enough to drown a rhino. And contradictory as hell. It's half "Oh, the public demands a huge extravaganza but we're keeping it low key because we're respectful like that" and half "This is going to cost double the security of Kate and Will's wedding and her dress is twice the cost of Kate's yearly wardrobe because it's the most fucking important nuptials ever to occur and the couple have bowed to demand." Meantime the actual details are extremely vague and mealy mouthed. The schedule says things like "At some point" and "very likely" and "is expected." It's clear her dress is straight up merched. If it is Ralph & Russo, it ain't no 100k dress, it's something they pulled from their line, a press sample, and they're gonna futz around with it and call it customized. Even Harry has been papped coming from their HQ and he wouldn't be doing that if it weren't merched. Oh, and of course that contradicts reports that Harry is a traditional groom who wants to know nothing about it til the day. Oh, and did you know Meghan is a foodie and a wonderful cook? Oh no, wait, neither one of them can really cook. Did you know Harry quit the gym, is eating clean, and does yoga with Megs every morning? Hold on now, he goes to the gym on the daily in his new healthy regimen!

Apparently no bridesmaids (she has no friends, even Chopra hasn't seen her or hung out), just "children". The names of the children havent been mentioned. You know she's trying to pressure Kate and Will for George and Charlotte, but Kate has the perfect out - no time to prep the kids, it's family time since the new baby (and besides you know nobody has designed/fitted page and baby bridesmaids clothing going by the fact they just decided on the music days ago), and Kate is just going to go quickly to Windsor for the wedding and then straight back to the baby. Under the circumstances, George and Charlotte's participation is too complicated. But Megs and Harry will be LEANING on her like they tried with Pippa wedding. I think Will won't budge.

Markle Jr is white trash and very jealous of his sister.

With Markle's family the old adage is true: You can't choose your family, but you can choose your friends.

I think William will give him what he wants and Kate will agree cause she wants to avoid bad press about them denying H&M cause Meghan is black. Even if it's not that Meghan's minions will insist K&W are racist if Georges and Charlotte are not there.

I think the BRF will play nice so Harry can't accuse them when the divorce will come.

But you carry your family's genes, R442, and Megs has proven over and over IN HER OWN WORDS AND DEEDS that she's a pretentious fame whore just like her siblings. Well, except her brother isn't pretentious, he's just a (as the Australians so delicately put it) "bogan."

DL was right about Colton Haynes wedding, DL gonna be right about this one too.

Mark my words.

Skinny and downcast Nutmeg out and about in gray London with her burly bodyguard.

ATTENTION R417, R418 who posted the yearbook picture.

If you were at Northwestern at the same time, do you have or know how to get a list of graduates from her year. Do the yearbooks print lists of graduates? With pictures?

I find it odd, given the Northwestern connection, that there's been virtually nothing coming out about that time.

I only saw one quote from one of her teachers whose only memory of her was that she was "respectful". That's an odd comment. What adjectives would you expect one of your college profs to use when describing any student? "Respectful" isn't in the top 20.

I admit I am curious as to whether she graduated and whether the story of the double major is actually true.

I doubt her professors remind her anyway.

You don't remind average students from 15 years ago, she should have been exceptional for them to remind her.

They're just like "Yeah, her... She was..... Euh..... She was.... Respectful, that's it: respectful". An other way to say: "I have no idea who you're talking about".

I have no idea why but they are just now releasing old pap pics and pretending they're recent? It's hot and not rainy and that pic of Meg with the vest, hat and umbrella is supposed to be from the other day? There is another pic where she is dressed identically and going to a salon or something from a while back when it was actually raining. That pic is not from the other day. Why release that now and lie?

One of the Meghan fashion blogs happened to know what shoes she was wearing too. You can't see her shoes in the pics. She's gonna marry a prince and she's still merching? She's tacky.

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There has been an avalanche of news and pics after the brother's letter and the "news" about the second marriage.

They're bombing the public with news and pics right now to make people forget everything else. Typical PR tactic.

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He's an insecure mess, the Royal Colton Haynes. But straight.

She didn't even clean the mud off her shoes from that time to when she wore the shoes the next time. This is so low rent and they're trying really hard to pretend. It honestly makes me wonder if the wedding will come off. She's so going through the motions and half assed about what she does. It's all on the cheap, including how she acts. If this were the rest of her life wouldn't she be making more of an effort. It looks like smoke and mirrors with another shoe to drop.

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Meg has the best dress of that bunch

Kate's parents paid for her dress, as it should be.

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Meg doesn't have fabulously wealthy parents. And Kate did nothing to earn being born to rich parents

^ any attention

R460 Keep your jealousy at bay.

No one said Kate deserved it, just that Charles should not have to pay for her. She's supposed to be super successful and super rich, no?

R459 Charlotte will shit on her parade and steal the show anyway.

Charlotte already has Sparkle's number.

Charles has far more money than her despite her being very wealthy. The cost of the dress is insignificant compared to the overall cost of the event. Paying for it is the classy thing to do. The BRF is welcoming her

Lol, they pay for everything and gonna pay for everything for the next few years.

She could pay something herself.

R372, We already knew she is a divorcee. This is different, and far ickier for Harry. But along with Meghan's "Find me a charity involving Africa," her ambition to become known enough to gain entry to Harry's circle might well have led M. to Harvey's office.

Just as Catherine knew, while in pursuit, that William needs unquestioned deferring to, so did Meghan figure out that Harry needs mothering by a glamorous woman with charitable "instincts."

As the saying goes, she chased him until he caught her.

Nutmeg is playing Ginger like a violin.

^That's called love <3

R468 - And Ginger is too simple minded to realize that he's being played.

R448, The word in each instance is "remember," not "remind."

If THIS is her actual wedding dress, those sleeves are way over the top. She's going to be a member of the Royal Family not singing in Las Vegas.

Anyone know who this guy is? A date or just a poseur?

So, lots of cash outlay for the wedding - more, perhaps than for William.

When will Prince Charles turn off the spigot?

If the happy couple get a city place to live, a country place to live, as reported, shouldn't Harry have to start paying his own bills (and his wife's) after that?

I can't see Charles giving unlimited funds. Especially with Camilla, probably wise to Sparkle.

More showgirl than Duchess. Yikes!

Prom night. Future nose job ahead for this LA girl.

That pic of Harry going to R&R is actually him coming from the gym. Which would be why he's dressed that way and carrying a water bottle. DM is so stupid. Pippa goes to the gym in that building too.

And DM is hyping a R&R dress but that's not the actual dress. It will probably be similar tho.

She's heading to the gym in London but she needs more meat on her frame. Those chicken legs are bad and don't get me started on her ankles.

I trust Sparkle will sashay down the church aisle maintaining that precise pose @R475; otherwise, the gown will resemble a bedazzled window treatment.

Ah, but then there is always The Spencer Tiara to save the moment -

With Mom at her graduation.

With Bobbi Brown.

With her mother.

Sparkle hasn't a dime.

Nutmeg kissing her future brother-in-law William. Yeah, I know she's puckering her lips but her face is getting gaunt.

Meghan is going to wear this risque number and she's going to "sashay" down the aisle. LOL.

She's suppose to be an outgoing, ambitious mature woman of 36 so why does she act like a fucking teenager?

Thanks, R480, for the picture.

That's the first I've seen from the Northwestern story.

I want Harry and Meghan to have a red haired, freckle faced child with an afro. Prince Philip would surely have a stroke.

Philip will be dead before.

Is the NW person still around? Some people are claiming the graduation pic is fake because that's not the right gown for NW. Is that true?

Let's hope Meghan doesn't wear a backless gown like this one. I don't want to see her shoulder bones sticking out as she's walking down the aisle.

Acti.g like she's a "deer caught in the headlights".

^ acting

R486 to frustrate you, of course!

R446 - she seems to think that if she dresses down, wears a beanie hat and dark sunglasses that no one will recognize her? Gee, she's not very bright, is she?

Here's another paparazzi shot of Nutmeg leaving yoga class. Notice the dark shades. She wears them even when London is grey and overcast.

R495 has never had to deal with the paparazzi, poor dear. He doesn't know that flashes and people yelling at you are part of that. Sunglasses offer a tiny bit of privacy as well.

I hope she doesn't have these horrid tendrils hanging down her cheeks when she gets married. I never could stand them even when they were in style.

She deals with the paps like Taylor Swift deals with the paps.

Real paps pics are super rare, 95% of the time it's an agreement between the people.

R496 - what's she going to do after she's married then? She thinks she has it bad now wait until after.

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Hey Northwestern yearbook person R417 ! Northwestern has a huge entertainment industry mafia - do you have any insights as to why Sparkle wasn't more successful given her spectacular industry alumni network? Well, beyond that she can't act for shite, but that never stopped anyone.

R447, Royal Dish has a poster who works in higher ed who analyzed Meghan's degree- yes, "Get a life" and all that, but it was interesting. There was actually a really long technical discussion on whether she actually could have majored in international relations or not. I don't think it's in the current Meghan/Harry threads. I think it was in one of the original ones that the demented webmistress shut down so look back further.

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The days before W&K wedding were happy.

Waity Katy finally got her Prince, she didn't need to hide or feel like she had to hide.

Please, Meghan WANTS to be recognized, and she has herself papped. That's costuming. Oh poor me in my sunglasses and beanie. (BTW guys I'll be in sunglasses and beanie). Most of the time when someone is papped going about their business, particularly someone as press whorish as Sparkle, they pap themselves.

[quote] There was actually a really long technical discussion on whether she actually could have majored in international relations or not.

I read something about that question somewhere. As I recall there was a question about whether it was possible to major in the "International" X field (I don't remember the exact second term) at that time...whether the major even existed then.

Kate had friends, she had family, she had William, she had William's family, his family trusted her and knew the marriage would stick. Prince Charles was so enthused he suggested music for the ceremony. For all the criticism of the Middletons, they're not tight with a buck and I'm sure the RF appreciated and still appreciate how they're not just another bunch of leaches, but pay their way and then some. It was a very happy event. The calm and confidence of the bride and groom was practically Swedish (look at the weddings of the three "kids" of the Swedish royal family for what I mean). No drama. For all the comment, I thought they struck the right note. Kate's dress had enough impact for the venue without being a drama queen, all-eyes-on-me dress, Pippa looked both appropriate and fantastic so that gave the media something extra to talk about, which I'm sure they appreciated. Arriving in a Rolls Royce was somehow considered less ostentatious than arriving in a carriage, and actually it was. Everybody got to kick back and enjoy the pageantry with no weirdness. Harry's wedding, OTOH, is nasty. There is something wrong with him. I think everybody expected that when Harry married, it would be even happier than William's due to the relief of him getting his happy ending and his secure family, since he's had a rockier road than Will. But instead it's just a debacle. Still think there's something uber weird, going-through-the-motions and smoke and mirrors about the whole thing. Every press release is a word salad without much there, there.

They should have live at least 1 year together in London before thinking wedding.

People knew Kate since years and knew she was the One. People still don't know Meghan, she comes from nowhere, of course it gonna be a mess.

Eugenie's wedding will be like W&K, the wedding of two people knowing each others since years who marry cause they know they're right for each others. No drama, just happiness all around.

[quote]People still don't know Meghan, she comes from nowhere, of course it gonna be a mess.

The irony of an actual mess commenting...

I don't think you know what actual mess means.

There are more contradictions in every utterance from KP on this wedding - which is weirdly now using American idioms, spelling, and punctuation (lots of commas) than have ever been issued from anything palace-adjacent before.

R417 here - To answer R447 - I don't know how to get a list electronically, but the 2003 yearbook would have the entire class. It has all the senior pics. As far as online, there might be a way to get a list through some alumni thing. I think I can go in the alumni database and get 500 records before it would stop me from searching for the rest of the day. There might be facebook or linkedin groups from the class of 2003 too. I don't have the 03 yearbook. The people that should know her best are the girls in the pic... but I haven't spoken to my (1 or 2) friends in that sorority since 2000 really. Also, it is not easy for teachers to get to know students there, contrary to how the school presents itself. Most classes at NU are lecture halls- much larger than most people would think or be led to believe during a tour. Even junior and senior classes had over 100 people. Maybe some of the really esoteric classes were under 30 people - but that's about it.

I couldn't find the thread, r501 - but international relations was not a big deal at NU from what I remember, in terms of workload or study requirements. I think it might have been possible to combine with theater and still finish all the major requirements because they would overlap. Combining theater and pre-med would be a nightmare since nothing would overlap. But, theater and IR would probably require 2 English, 2 History, 2 Math, etc... and should work out more easily.

Anyway, r501 - it's a mystery to me how she even got on TV at all. There are tons of theater majors, and I knew really good actors and people that I was SURE would be successful, and they aren't doing anything at all. Maybe some were off-off-broadway for a few years until they couldn't live off their parents' money anymore. I only saw Meghan in a few episodes on tv and she was a very awkward actress. I am shocked she got that far, even, given the competition. NU does have a lot of connections, but I don't think they run that deep - after you graduate, there's only so much they can do if you aren't doing well on your own. The most successful person from that era is Billy Eichner, who is 3 years older than her, and again - one I would not have predicted to be in movies and tv shows at all... but there he is. I have no idea how, but there were so many people who were more talented and equally hard working.

You can be super talented and not knowing how to pimp yourself for jobs.

[quote]R422 So Harry will meet his father in law one week before the wedding. How is it non-dysfunctional?

He's not marrying her dad.

You're just pissed because she's not doing it the way you would if YOU married a prince.

[italic]Get your own g-damn man!

So it's totally usual and normal for you in marry someone whom you have met the mother 1 time and never the father.

Anybody on DL live in Evanston or The North Shore. A Northwestern Alumni who does would be even better.

I bet that Northwestern's library would have copies of all the yearbooks.

Are there any volunteers who would like to visit and check?

r511 = J. Law

I found a copy of the Northwestern University Commencement Program for 2003 online.

On Page 21 - Under Heading "Bachelor of Science in Communications" ... "Candidates for degree, June 20, 2003"

Third column, 16th from the bottom

[quote] Rachel Meghan Markle

So this is weird.

Meghan Markle does not appear in the directory at all.

If I searched a few different ways. "Markle" alone gives 14 people who are not her. Then with "Markle" and 2003, all I get is "Rachel Markle" and then it says her profile is "private" which is rare. It didn't even have that feature until recently. You could always, at least, see someone's school (McCormick - Engineers, Weinberg - arts & sciences, etc) - but nothing on "Rachel"...

God , what is she so paranoid about. There are FAR more famous people, CEOs, and so on in the database who you can look up & email. Miss thing is too good for NU now.

I can see Billy Eichner's email and phone number. I actually emailed Cindy Chupack 15 years ago and shortly afterword, she took her email off her profile lol. She was such a cunt. I was asking her something about Sex and the City (as an undergrad - just very benign kind of typical email you'd expect) and her response was beyond bitchy. Oh but her contact info is BACK! cindychupack@xxx.com 310.773.xxxx (I'll be nice and x parts of it out.... I really hate that cunt though).

So her first name is actually rachel then? Oh apparently I am an idiot... I just googled it. R516, where did you find the commencement program?

[quote] So her first name is actually rachel then? Oh apparently I am an idiot... I just googled it. [R516], where did you find the commencement program?

Northwestern University Library website. The University Archives collection has many such programs digitized.

Any way to upload images of the archives?

Her degree was in Communications? Is that what a degree in drama would say? Nothing about an "International Studies" major that some claim never even existed?

The program shows she has a BS in Communication (school of speech) - not theater (which would be "radio / television / film") or international relations.

So she lied about her degree?

Here's the link.

I accessed this page through the library, but I think this is an independent site.

The 1st item is the one. The 2nd and 3rd are for Berkley.

I wish the best for them. They are going to have to deal with racism and social media. They both love animals, were generally influenced by their mothers, and haven't been attention seeking. Seriously. Those of us in America didn't even know her even after 6 seasons on television. Watch the old video where she sent a letter to P&G about woman's rights when she was a kid. I would have dumped all those so called best friends and family. And she graduated from college just like many American kids so no.

R521,

Scan through the program.

The sections for Bachelor degrees are pretty broad. It may be that Communications is used for different types of degrees.

"Haven't been attention seeking", I'm not sure how you can say that an actress with a life style blog + instagram is not attention seeking.

No - she didn't lie. I just got confused. Radio / Television / Film was part of the school of speech.

School of Communication Convocations (admission by ticket only) at Pick-Staiger Concert Hall, 50 Arts Circle Drive (4): 1:30 p.m. for graduates in Communication Sciences and Disorders and Communication Studies; 5 p.m. for graduates in Dance, Interdepartmental Studies, Performance Studies, Radio/Television/Film, and Theatre Receptions: following each convocation on the Arts Circle lawn south of Pick-Staiger

I was surprised that the list of graduates was pretty small.

Perhaps they have multiple ceremonies for different degrees, spread out over different days & times?

Oh, R527, I just saw your post.

Different times and places for different degrees.

I wasn't in the school of communications so I didn't know how they had it set up (it's weird to lump speech pathology with TV - so I assumed it wasn't the same). In that era, I mostly just heard people call it "RTVF" (radio / tv / film) - and apparently theater was separate - though everyone referred to them as RTVF or theater majors, interchangeably. I think it has all been reorganized since then.

It's too hard for her to have lied about something like a major, I think, because anyone can check. There's only 1 reference to "international affairs" in the whole program though - the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton, where President Bienen was a dean.

Each year had 2000 students +/- 500 .... across all schools and majors. There is one massive graduation for all 2000 undergrads (plus phds, law, med school, etc) and then people go to the graduation for their major where they actually read the names.

OK, thanks for clarifying. R527. And thanks for doing the research.

What about the gowns? Some people claim that the graduation pic of her with her mom is fake because the gown is wrong. While the International Studies part of her story may not add up, everything else seems to match what she has claimed.

I think she might have been a political science major - since there's no such thing as international affairs / international relations. Within political science, you can study international affairs, so maybe that is the issue.

The gown looks normal to me, but I'm not sure why people think it's wrong. All gowns look the same to me really unless it's a PhD or something.

I'm tired of all this boring rubbish. I want to talk about clothes. I was looking at wedding pictures from Sophie and Edward's wedding at Windsor and I was surprised at how dressed u Queen Elizabeth was. A floor length lavender gown with beads and pleats and sparkles. I wonder if the time of day has anything to do with it. I Remember for Charles Wedding she wore a beautiful bright turquoise ensemble with a fetching hat, but for Edward it was feathers!!!!! I also noticed that Princess Margaret was almost unrecognizable in a wheel chair and Antony Armstrong Jones was seated in the front row next to the Queen mother while Margaret was all the way at the other end of the row in her wheelchair.

[quote] political science major - since there's no such thing as international affairs / international relations

But wouldn't she have then been listed also in the "Bachelor of Arts" section, which, I believe is where political science, history, etc. fall?

[quote]r513 So it's totally usual and normal for you in marry someone whom you have met the mother 1 time and never the father.

She's a television star and he's a prince.

They are not "usual".

Oh yeah, probably... unless it was a minor. Maybe the school just made you pick one. I can't remember. If you got 2 degrees from 2 schools, you should be listed twice, i'd think... but who knows how they did it.

Prince Charles isn't spending anything for this wedding. All the $$ is bullshit, trying to big up Markle. There is no there there.

[quote] Pray tell me what does Beatrice do to warrant a vacation?

Day and night she and her sister are on call to greet visiting dignitaries.

[quote] Will and Kate are more popular than Harry and Meg. Will is most popular. Followed closely by Harry and Kate is close behind. Meg is not popular, she trails them by double digits

That's not saying much. The only person out of the Royal Family that most British people like is the Queen. If they were able to pick anyone to be their royal family (or to represent their countries), they certainly wouldn't pick William, Kate, Charles or Camilla. If Charles and Camilla could actually be voted out, they'd be out on their asses by tomorrow night

So yes, when asked who they like out of the Royal Family they might judge Kate and William higher than Megan, but that's like asking who are your favorites out of the trump administration. And "no one" is not an option

No bridesmaids = no close female friends.

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Wendy Williams said she was taken aback when Megan called and met with her booking department a few years ago (before or right after she got on Suits) asking to get an interview on the show for more exposure. They had no idea who she was at the time.

She certainly is an opportunist.

The ridiculous for Sparkle is ceaseless! First they'ye outraged by the rumor her father wouldn't be at the wedding, now they're upset he would be fitted for a tux in the city in which he lives.

^^ I'm so UPSET I can't type correctly!

I meant to write

[quote]the ridiculous hatred for

Well, isn’t that interesting that her brother writes that open letter claiming that she didn’t invite her father and it’s promptly made known that the father had been invited, but only starts getting measured for a tux two weeks before the wedding? It’s almost like she floated the rumor that her mother was going to walk her down the isle and father was too ill to travel, saw that it wasn’t met with the enthusiasm she was hoping for, caved in and let KP do the damage control. I don’t hate MM, by the way: if anything, I admire her social-climbing skills, especially since, unlike Kate, she didn’t have a family that anyone could call a social asset to a girl. I don’t blame her for not inviting them either: it’s hard dealing with a dysfunctional family members on a good day, and infinitely harder doing that in a spotlight. To the person who keeps saying that Meghan lacks family support: exactly, she has no safety net. Her friends are the same fair weather type as she is. Her family cannot help her, even if they wanted to, because everything she has to deal with now is way out of their experience and frame of reference, if she did invite them, they’d ended up embarrassing themselves and her. So she has to spin a yarn for Harry and make him issue threats, because she has no idea how else to deal with the press and whatever embarrassing facts they are going to dig out from her past. And to people accusing her of ghosting people on her way up, it was the only thing to do. If you look at the trajectory of her rise to world fame, it’s insane. She is not from a wealthy family, like Grace Kelly. She doesn’t have famous or successful parents in the industry, like Angelina Jolie or Gwyneth Paltrow. She is not talented or even just beautiful, like Jennifer Lawrence or Amber Heard. She had nothing, except pretty face and some intellect, and the determination to get as much of it as possible.

He's probably being measured so they can send his measurements to London. He will be in a bespoke suit from some classy tailor. In fact, he might get a whole fucking wardrobe out of this. there will be several events and engagements he will have to attend in the days leading up to the wedding. I'm glad. I hope he and her mother have a great time!

Is he marriedd NOW? It would be wonderful if he ended up with Big Liz.

Now THAT would be a fairytale romance!!

R546 What you say is true but I think there's no need to ghost people when you're ambitious. On the contrary, you cut bridges which could be useful one day.

For her siblings, they're a huge embarrassment but I think she didn't deal with them the right way. Her wedding strategy could not be the same as Kate, as no one would think Kate's family would try to undermine her. So everything being a big secret was ok and fun.

With Meghan, all the secrecy only created a rumor mill around her family and her relationships with her parents.

By the way, Wendy Williams said she broke up with Cory by text message and one day Meghan came to see her to be being interviewed so she could gain exposure. This sounds true and this girl is super tacky.

And finally, Saint Doria or Gloria (whatever her name) will do her big interview with Oprah about racism. Mum knows how to milk the cow too, even if she's more classy than the siblings.

WILL MARKLE'S DAD MARRY BIG LIZ ? ? ?

[quote]For her siblings, they're a huge embarrassment but I think she didn't deal with them the right way.

She dealt with them the only way you deal with two pieces of shit. You ignore them. You may not know, but when it was announced H & M were dating, the very first thing her half sister did was sell extremely negative stories to the press about Meghan and saying she was a terrible, terrible person. When she realized the public didn't care what she said and that she was coming across as an angry cunt, she changed her tune and tried to say she had just been joking about her sister. The brother was constantly selling "nice" stories about her to the tabloids and tv programs, but then he tried to blackmail his sister after he was arrested. One of the tabloids published a letter that he had written to (I'm not positive), either Kensington Palace, Meghan's lawyer or someone where he said, she needed to help him and if she didn't she would find out what it's like for a bunch more negative stories about him and Meghan to appear in the press

You can't deal with two pieces of shit like that. No amount of money would keep them quiet. They'd always want more. The best thing you can do is ignore them. Yes, they will spew their bitter bullshit to the press. No one really cares. And the more they do it, the more unhinged they appear. After the wedding no one in the entire world will give a shit about them. Their own mother can't stand them and says they are both shit. I have a feeling the father doesn't have a single thing to do with them either. Those two losers probably always hit him up for money. After what they've done to Meghan, they are probably dead to their dad.

36 yr old female is basically grandmother age for a female. A sane female finds a life partner long before 36.

They basically hauled her out of the African jungle and inserted her in the British royal family. The royal family should be disbanded if this farce continues.

Blacks should be returned to their natural environment. They are not evolved to live in cities.

Exactly, R545, she's not a scheming wench who will topple the BRF and ruin the life of the hapless Harry, she's your common or garden social climber. Anyone who is hoping for a spectacular divorce, I don't see it happening. She'll play her part to a tee and if there is a split, it will be quiet and many years down the road. By the way, I think the BRF are pretty happy with what this will do for their image. It makes them look progressive and increases their standing worldwide, if the huge interest in the US is any indication.

Not sure how WW got the insider info about the text message breakup with Cory but I wouldn't be surprised. Meg was living with Cory when she started seeing Harry. She saw someone higher up on the social ladder and she jumped. And the only reason she was in with the Canadian phony "elite" crowd in the first place is because of Cory. He was the one who introduced her to that crowd and of course that crowd is how she was able to meet Harry.

You do have to give her credit for her hustle but you have to be careful as you burn bridges on the way up because it can be a pretty lonely place up there as Meg is probably learning.

r542

Wendy Williams is also an opportunist who missed a real scoop

R554 It was way before Harry, so at the time she didn't miss anything. She just saw Meghan for what she was a nobody running after fame.

Sort of like Wendy herself.

You need one to know one.

Andrew is supposed to not like her too. He is shady as fuck, he knows what it is about.

R440. Give it up already. Posh weddings? Please, its highly unusual for a royal bride, or any type for that matter, not to have at least one maiden to assist her with her gown, flowers, etc.

The rumour floating about is that M doesn't want to hurt her friends' feelings by choosing one over the others. Oh please. So have 3 maidens.

That she doesn't have anyone to ask is fairly clear .

Maidens? Do you write with a feather?

Spoken with the authority of the entirely clueless, r558.

I have two adopted negro siblings. Race transcends Everything. Racism is inborn. Race mixed and nonwhites work tirelessly on an unconscious level to undermine us.

What is it about discussing the British aristocracy or the royal family that moves people to start using words like maiden and manor? It's like all of sudden they're little Lord Fauntleroy when really they're just lucky they can spell.

The older royals couldn't give a fuck about America and just swing by to get a few cheques for charity (Charles). They have always thought that Americans are peasants and savages.

WOnder if Doria will wear her nose ring at the wedding?

I think the angry siblings will be interviewed about their thoughts about the ceremony and will continue to mouth off forever. The tabloids will never let that go. why does the father look like a derelict or mental patient when having his tuxedo fitted?

Actually the story is she drained her father's money and then ghosted her father.

It's more like he paid for an education he couldn't afford her.

Meghan did not make enough money on Suits to give handouts to her family, as her family, a few of them on the show biz fringes and it being her dad's career, already know. She was a bit player who got a supporting role on a basic cable TV show. If she made 12k an episode for a sixteen episode season she'd be lucky (Jon Hamm made 20k as the lead on premium cable during the run of his first contract on Mad Men, although I'm sure they "voluntarily" sweetened that for him once it was a hit - I mean before contract renewals were up). Hamm had more credits that Markle. Markle was completely unknown - just a bit player not even earning a living at that point. When her contract was renewed she would have gotten the standard small-ish raise -again, basic cable where the overall budget was not big and she wasn't a lead. Other sources of income for her were her social media platforms, but when she's finished paying her agents, her taxes, insurance, etc., she is not even "comfortable" in terms of assets, just living more glamorously with more access and opportunity, and of course the chef boyfriend probably helped defray the cost of living as well as helping her network. Her self-promoting ventures in the "charity sector" she got via her commercial agent - being Chef Corey's gf helped. Once she became Single White Female to Jessica Mulroney's gum snapping, blimp-lipped, implanted and injected Toronto celebrity (she and her hubby think they're John Jr. and Carolyn Bessette), she also got freebie clothes and could merch a lot of her vacations. Her family knows this. She's not the Marilyn of a family full of Muensters. She IS a Muenster herself, just as opportunistic and money grubbing and manipulative, only more polish. I think her family is mad she took all of dad's money, didn't pay him back, yet used him to promote herself in her articles and speeches, and are also jealous, of course, but so would she be in their place.

Maybe because the father IS a derelict or mental patient, r563?

r566 nailed it.

Lol, leave her dad alone.

Her dad is in his early seventies and apparently living in retirement on modest means. Cut him some slack. And I say this as someone who thinks the future Duchess of ATM is more in love with the prince part than the Harry part.

Thanks, r570.

Nutmeg wanted to be an actress so she dated a producer, got the Suits job, married him and then dumped him by sending the ring back in an envelope (she's not only tacky but a coward).

Nutmeg wanted to branch off so she finds herself a chef to date and then she starts a food and lifestyle blog.

Nutmeg, an unknown and average actress on a relatively unknown cable show, suddenly finds herself in her mid-thirties and knows her days as a actress are numbered. What's an ambitious girl to do? Find another man to help her reach her goal of humanitarian/charitable mission. Voila, she gets a friend to set her up on a blind date with the Idiot Ginger Prince who she "pretends" she doesn't know. She sells the Simpleton Prince a sob story and he buys it. The so-called feminist gives up her life to get engaged and married. Mission accomplished. The end.

Harry does seem to appreciate his savior role in this relationship.

Compelling Biography, r572. I'd buy the longer version. Where she accidentally spears Harry in the nuts while on a shoot and becomes a widow. Lucky for Princess Meghan, she has a bilionaire "friend" nearby to wipe her tears away. The Real End.

She certainly could have had a maid of honor. Pryanka Choprah would come right now today if she changed her mind! and there are a couple more.

R575 - MEagain wants all of the attention. There will be no one upstaging her like Catherine had with her sister Pippa and her much admired bum.

I don't buy the Sainted Parents meme: It looks like Mum's going to interviewed by Harpo - did she hold out for the big bucks?

And why is Pops being measured for his suit outdoors? How pap-friendly of him. Especially since the pics were taken by the family pap agency, Coleman-Rayner. Sure, he hates the press.

And Dad's just being measured for the suit two weeks before the wedding? Granted, it's been a very short engagement, but they have had a good five months to get the suit sorted.

In the meantime, Brother Thomas's son has finished the marijuana strain he's named after Auntie Sparkle.

And Brother Thomas has been papped reading a book with Fergie on the cover.

She'll create tragic photos viewed in perpetuity struggling with that gown on her own

Any hot Continental Euro royals planning to attend?

The trashy Grimaldies perhaps.

This is already a catastrophe. Harry is basically already divorced, minus half his money and an American taking his children back to the US.

I don't blame her for ditching those trashy relatives. They haven't spoken in so long, they'll run out of stories- if they haven't already.

And how does anyone know if she did or didn't help her parents? BKs prove nothing.

If things go south, M won't be taking her kids to America. Any settlement would be contingent on that, just like with Diana and Fergie.

If only Fergie had taken those wonders to the U.S...

I'm sure the Grimaldis will be front and centre at the wedding.

Princess Caroline of HANOVER will be certain to add that special regal touch to the day's festivities.

The Grimaldies could make friends with Meghan's siblings.

That said, they could be a fun crowd to get drunk with.

How awesome would it be if she gave the dress to charity after the wedding?

I see potential great synergy there as well, r585. Add the Goldsmiths - Uncle Gary - and you could have a real Punch Up, too!

Not to mention Pippa's father in law--isn't he a pedo?

I'm just gonna put this here...

Ssssssssh!, 588. We don't want to upset Carole Middleton.

Really, this is quite the rogues' gallery. And yet even in this company the Markles are still the most unsavory.

Mama Markle has a NOSE RING? Seriously?

Doria is HARDCORE, R591.

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This hair need an intervention ^^^

I really do predict that Big Liz will fall for Meghan's father. She has been alone for a long time, and all the wedding talk has probably got her misty-eyed.

She is prime for the plucking.

Well, this type of intervention is certainly never going to happen, r594.

r591 needs the smelling salts!

While I don't think Big Liz will fall for Thomas Markle, I have to admit I am wondering about the parts of the day where the guests are required to speak to one another. I mean, the British Royal Family is trained from birth to manage conversation with anybody, so over the wedding breakfast I don't think there will be any awkward silences. But I wonder at the party at night... when everybody's exhausted and done with being on game and just wanting to have fun... who talks to the Americans then, over the din of the disco? Will they even attend? Or plead exhaustion?

The Queen will attend for a very limited period as Philip's health will be her excuse to get the hell out.

Markles + Gun + Booze = Wedding Reception Disaster.