Gabrielle Carteris as Andrea on 90210

She looked plenty believable to me.

She didn't seem as old as Luke Perry did as Dylan.

She looks as age appropriate for the Andrea role did in the original series as a 29-year-old Trevor Montgomery did when he was cast as Teddy Montgomery in the 90210 continuation in 2009.

Oppps, that should read Trevor Donovan. The character he played was Teddy Montgomery.

R4, he is hot, but definitely not a believable teenager.

She was fine in season 1 but by season 4 she was pushing it.

Andrea looked like a 40ish year old woman. I remember thinking she looked like my mom’s friend when I watched 90210 as a kid. She still kinda does.

The more unrealistic part was that she was supposed to be a potential love interest for Jason Priestley's character. I mean, really?

They really didn't do her any favours with this outfit.

None of them looked like high school age teens.

R8 They had good chemistry but i'm glad they never got together.

Ian Zeiring looked like no spring chicken either.

Ziering, I meant.

[Quote] None of them looked like high school age teens.

Hmm i thought Shannen, Jennie, Tori and Brian were all believable.

She was playing 14 or 15 in the first season.

Brian Austin Green was the most believable teen.

He was so tiny in season 1.

Ondrea turned super jewy in season 2. I guess Lainie Kazan really rubbed off on her. They totally ruined her character. She was so hell bent on getting good grades and going to an ivy league school, then she changes her mind, goes to "California University" and gets knocked up.

David's friend the blond guy also looked young. He stopped being the opening credits after the first season.

All of the "Saved by the Bell" kids looked more like realistic teenagers than the 90210 cast.

[quote]David's friend the blond guy also looked young. He stopped being the opening credits after the first season

didn't he die from some gun accident?

Yeah Scott Scanlon accidentally shot himself.

He was a BAD actor.

It's too bad they killed him off. They were going to kill off one of the kids for that very special episode and at one point it was supposed to be David. And then it was supposed to be any of the others expect for Donna. That guy got unlucky and got picked and now has no career.

[Quote] And then it was supposed to be any of the others expect for Donna.

I can't imagine why.

Why?

R26 I was being sarcastic. The fact that she's Spelling's daughter would automatically rule her out.

Because Donna was an indispensable talent amongst the cast.

Does anybody else think that Gabrielle Carteris was robbed of any Emmy nomination for the high drama and fine acting she provided on that one episode where she was lying about living outside of the Beverly Hills school district? I was on the edge of my seat!

Carteris is Greek and Jewish. What a strange combo indeed. That combo is not hot female wise. The women come out looking very blah at best.

Because she carried the show, Rose.

She slept with your father AND your mother

R32 Ahem.

She looked like a desperate housewife who likes lots and lots of alcohol, with a side of weed. And those black and yellow bumblebee meds.

Remember when she almost fucked steve sanders

And her teacher Chris Suitor.

I thought the show was ahead of its time by being about a high school for kids suffering from progeria.

If only Andrea Zuckerman's pussy could talk. Oh the things it could say...

I thought it was more unbelivable when she got pregnant toward the end of the show, as if she didn't look like her 'Aunt Blood' had stopped visiting years ago!

I see nothing wrong with this.

I thought she looked around the same age as her cast mates in the beginning. She was never supposed to be hot, she was serious and nerdy. Some teens look older because they are more mature than their peers. He age did start to show as the show went on. It's the problem with casting a youthful looking 30 year old. People can just start showing their true age overnight when they're over 30. The aging process isn't predictable.

Gabrielle's response to this whole thread!

[Quote] It's the problem with casting a youthful looking 30 year old. People can just start showing their true age overnight when they're over 30. The aging process isn't predictable.

Hairstyles can also make a huge difference. Especially when you're supposed to be playing someone in their early 20s.

I always wondered why they didn't change her wardrobe, the frames of her glasses or hair. It really aged her.

Show some respect. There aren't too many actresses left over from the 19th century anymore.

Remember her extramarital affair storyline in season 5 with Dr. Peter, the Doctor who saved Hannah 's life in season 4?

And it turns out not only was Andrea cheating in her husband Jesse but Jesse was cheating on Andrea too

I remember that storyline lasted like the WHOLE, 32 episodes, fifth season and she and Jesse was completely separated from the rest of the cast in her own storyline "island "

It was bizarre

She was damn lucky to land that roll 💰

R11 thanks for the clip, the revenge of the unpicked girl! I had a moment like that when I ran into a guy I was OBSESSED years who strung me along for years and messed with my head. I no longer cared about but when he tried to get with me but it was a glorious moment because I had grown so much and he was the same dickhead

With all due respect R11 and R48, Brandon was damn irresistible!

This is more realistic

There’s a good reason they hire adults to play teenagers on TV shows. It allows older viewers to identify with the actors because of the way they look. It really expands the potential audience by almost a decade. Usually when they try to keep the ages of actors authentic on a. teen show or a movie it doesn’t do well.

Tell me about it, R47

R49 I agree! So did Andrea (I don't hear her saying no to him) and she just found herself in the enviable position of being in the position of havig both the upper hand and leverage and she's not about to not relish it

[QUOTE] Carteris is Greek and Jewish. What a strange combo indeed

I didn’t even know there were Greek Jews until I read some horrible accounts of the holocaust. Supposedly it took ten days by cattle car to get to Poland from Greece. When they opened the doors they were all dead.

She was one of the great, unsung TV talents of our time.

She was 37 when she first started the show.

R56 she was 30 when she started the show but she looked 37

She was a fresh and dewey 73 at the beginning of 90210.

Anyone remembers the episode when Andrea fell and she couldn't get up? Fortunately, she had a LifeAlert. Osteoporosis can really be a bitch.

Fuckers! My name hasn't been mentioned by anyone in years, and I finally get a ton of Google Alerts today and this is what you are saying!!

Andrea being written off the show at the end of season 5 was a great move by the producers

Andrea was a PERFECT and average looking character when the show was "issues" oriented during it's first couple of seasons, by the time season 4 rolled around and they went to college and the show became more of a Melrose Place style soap opera, Andrea just didn't fit with the increasingly sexy bedhopping cast, even if they had her become pregnant out if wedlock and had her become a hot to trot adulteress.

You guys's's, Gabi has Google Alerts and is gonna see this! Stop it right now!

R62, Gabrielle actually is a pretty good sport and has a sense of humor. I think she would be amused to read the thread. Apparently in real life she is still very close to Jason Priestley!

And, of course, she also has the prestige of being SAG-AFTRA president, which is an impressive achievement in general, but even more so when comparing yourself to the likes of Tori.

I don't know why everyone's ripping on her looks, everyone on that show was ugly except for Kelly and Brandon. Ian Ziering is one of the most unattractive people in creation. And Shannon Doherty is now oil painting either. Well, she's a Picasso, I guess.

I thought David was cute in a wannabe Vanilla way. Some seasons more than others..

Donna was beautiful.

Vanilla Ice, I meant.

Andrea and Jessie were like watching paint dry. And he was not a believable heterosexual.

Luke Perry was hot if you could overlook the lines on his forehead.

[quote]Donna was beautiful

I agree

Oh yeah, R71? Well Becca from Life Goes On was certainly jealous of Tori's beauty, talent, and popularity in that made for TV Death of a Cheerleader movie.. enough to stab her!

Carteris was 29 when 90210 began and 39 when it ended.

Priestly was 21 when the show began; Shannen Doherty was 19; Ziering was 26; Spelling was 17; Luke Perry was 24.

You mean his Sixhead, r70?

As a kid I believed it, but back then I probably thought they all looked old.

They still look pretty old for high schoolers, R75.

[quote] Anyone remembers the episode when Andrea fell and she couldn't get up? Fortunately, she had a LifeAlert. Osteoporosis can really be a bitch.

I loved the episode where Andrea got up in front of the class and lectured about living through the Spanish Flu and WWI.

R61 You're probably right. Although i would have liked to see her reaction to someone like Valerie.

Oh wait Valerie joined the cast in season 5....

Does Gabrielle Carteris deserve the title of DL fave? I think so.

She should have been in Driving Miss Daisy

[quote]Who did Gabrielle sleep with to get this role?

More like who is she related to (Jewish nepotism).

I always assumed Gabrielle got the typical JAP sweet sixteen birthday gift of a bad nose job. It didn't move at all when she spoke or smiled. Very distracting. She's got the face of someone who should be behind the scenes, not out in front on a hit show. She won the lottery with that role.

It always cracked me up though how she was never really a part of the main cast.

She sure as hell didn't sleep with Darren Starr to get the role. That was me.

They should have her in 90210 v3.0. She’ll be 16 of course... and never been kissed.

Test

She was the female Joe E. Tata

Any truth to that r84?

Y'all are just jealous

Is she still president?

I would have humiliated myself and broken my date for Brandon in r11. He was just too beautiful.

R79 yeah but I don't think they had any scenes together.

As stated above, Andrea was kept separate from the rest of the cast in season 5

It was like watching her own spin off series with Jesse, "Andrea The Adulteress!"

R90 yes I am. This is Gabrielle you're talking to by the way.

As others have mentioned, she didn't look any older than Luke Perry and other cast members.

There have been a number of articles about how shows like 90210 messed up American teens vision of what they were supposed to look like

R94 damn straight! I looked great!

I remember the build up to that episode R24! It was all "Tonight they lose one of their own" and had pictures of the blonde with the rest of the cast for the first time in, quite possibly, forever. Show lost me on that Christmas episode where the truck passed right through the bus.

I liked the episode when andrea went to a rap showdown and started breakdancing in front of the crowd.

R66 & R68 Oh we knew exactly who you meant. Spot on comparison. R74 LMFAOOOOOOO! R80 I think we should! R93, R95 (GC) Can you offer us any proof? And if you really are, would you do us the honor of being a DL Fave? (It's prestigious, you will be in great company.)

Nicholas Brendon and Charisma Carpenter were both pushing 30 and playing 16-year-olds when Buffy started. I think Xander is fairly convincing as a teenager despite his age, but as the series progressed, he chubbed out and the illusion was shattered. Carpenter's Cordelia--though stunning (and she has aged pretty well)--never looked remotely like a teenager. On Angel, just a few years later, especially with her changing hairstyles, she clearly looked like a woman in her 30s, but within the timeline was only supposed to be early 20s.

So this goes on all the time, though I think Saved by the Bell used actual teens.

If you want a true example of a show that uses real teenagers in all of their pimply, growing pains awkwardness, watch Degrassi: The Next Generation. Those are what high schoolers actually look like.

Watch Everything Sucks for what high schoolers look like today.

R98, I can’t really but one time we all got invited to the Spelling mansion. Candy just got home shopping and there were literally 3 maids dragging in the shopping bags. I feel sorry for Tori because she thought that was how she was going to live. Candy always hated her - Tori used to bitch about her on set all the time.

Anyway, I’d be honored to be a DL Fave, whatever that is!

I will say this, though. How we perceive age does change based on the period you are living in.

When I look at my mom's high school yearbook from the 60s, almost every teenager in there looks 35. I think it was the hairstyles (lots of hilarious beehives and weird old lady perms) and that everyone had to wear a jacket and tie or a dress with a frilly collar for photos back then. But very few of them actually looks like a teenager.

R99, I always thought Charisma Carpenter only got away with her character on Angel because she was removed from her cohort of high school peers still on BtVS.

By season four of Angel, she looked like a fucking soccer mom with the suburban, frosted hair.

Thankfully, they brought he back for a farewell near the end of the final season and she looked gorgeous.

R102 (GC) Hmmmm that is pretty convincing. Welcome and you look great!

GC is DL fave. I’m glad she is doing fine.

R106 Hear hear! Me too. Cheers to you GC!

I like how Andrea was busy sipping prune juice while the rest of the cast was downing tequila shots!

It's funny. Nothing makes you look older like trying to look and act younger. GC looks better now than she did on the show.

Recently, Gabrielle Carteris, as SAG-AGTRA President, sent out an email complaining about how she’s been the victim of age discrimination.

She must be upset that she didn’t get cast as Betty in “Riverdale.”

Here is a photo of the male cast including Scott.

And a full cast photo including Scott.

I forgot how Ian had blond pubic hair on his head.

I was a teen when 90210 was first aired, and my friends and I treated the Brandon/Andrea kissing scene like it was porn. "OMG he finally kissed her--and that sexy way he said, "I'm gonna miss you." We would rewind and watch several times lol

Jason Priestley naked, because this is a gay board and why not?

View 2

Another guy about to top him.

Slow motion.

At least Gabrielle isn't broke.

Btw, the only storyline dumber than the bus and the truck was the one where David completed both his senior and junior years concurrently at the same time he spent about 50 hours a week as the school DJ. Fuck oath, that was demented.

R119 no Andrea's paralyzed in a wheelchair hit and run storyline from season 3 takes the cake for dumb storylines

I know it went on and on for tons of episodes but I still don't fully understand it

[Quote] I would have humiliated myself and broken my date for Brandon in [R11]. He was just too beautiful.

Brandon was too arrogant. As the seasons went on he just got worse and worse. So did Kelly.

[Quote] [R79] yeah but I don't think they had any scenes together.

I think they did but it was usually in group settings.

[Quote] Show lost me on that Christmas episode where the truck passed right through the bus.

I hate that episode.

[Quote] Thankfully, they brought he back for a farewell near the end of the final season and she looked gorgeous.

She really did. That was one of my fav episodes of Angel.

It's funny that Gabrielle Carteris, in her fight to get IMDB to stop putting birth dates on their pages, said that if it was around back in the 90's, she would not have gotten the 90210 job because she was too old. But it actually proves why it is important to reveal your age. She passes for the first few seasons but then looks like she's their mother in the later seasons.

It wasn't just Gabrielle Cateris. None of them, except Brian Austin Green, was age appropriate.

[Quote] Btw, the only storyline dumber than the bus and the truck was the one where David completed both his senior and junior years concurrently at the same time he spent about 50 hours a week as the school DJ. Fuck oath, that was demented.

Poor David, no wonder he started drinking OJ in college.

[Quote] no Andrea's paralyzed in a wheelchair hit and run storyline from season 3 takes the cake for dumb storylines

But then we wouldn't have had this scene.

R124 LOL that shit was hilarious. I think it happened at the very end of the episode too

How did fans wait a WHOLE week to see what would become of ANDREA!

At least on daytime soaps you wait until the next day

To be fair, R125, scenes like that on daytime would have happened on Friday so that you had to wait all weekend.

R127 Awww thanks for that! Brandon was so adorable! He really didn't age well. Got suitcases under his eyes pretty early on.

I liked Andrea. I think you're being a little too mean about her. She didn't look much older or out of place than any of the other cast. When the show became less issue-oriented and more of a cliffhanger soap opera her character didn't really fit; but all throughout the show's first few years she was the only character I related to. Everyone else was too cool or pretty or rich to actually be someone I'd talk to in school. Andrea reminded me of people I'd be friends with. I also think Gabrielle's post-90210 life choices have shown much more class and integrity than Shannon's or Tori's.

There's some really interesting info from an interview with one of the writers:

[quote] Mollin: Well, Gabrielle, we asked her politely–she was the oldest–if she could just hold back. We didn’t want to do a baby. Did not want to. We certainly didn’t do the Hunter Tylo thing where [Melrose Place] asked her to get an abortion but, you know, we didn’t want to go down that road. But she got pregnant and was having the baby and there was nothing we could do. I actually used my whole personal story for it. Her premature baby and all that came out of my life. We gave it a good shot. I have to admit I was not in the room when Mark Damon Espinoza [Jesse] was cast. I was totally appalled that they cast this guy. He had ears as big as Botswana as far as I was concerned. I just could not believe it. I have no idea what happened in that room that day when they cast him. I just thought they totally blew it. To have a guy with a receding hairline– just everything I thought was wrong. And he was a nice man but it just was never going to happen. And rather than getting like an Esai Morales, someone who was really sexy and good–I just had no idea what he was thinking, the old man. He was always difficult with minority casting. He would always go ways we would never understand but we never wanted to get into it. So they cast him and they just didn’t really click. It didn’t really add to us. It took away a lot of the fun, to have to be in this grown-up stuff. We eventually just didn’t think it was going to work, and I don’t know who made the decision; I guess it was the old man. She was done. She was gone. We sent her off to Yale, as I remember [Episode 5.30, Hello Life, Goodbye Beverly Hills]. But she came back. She came back for Steve’s birthday party on the Queen Mary [Episode 6.31-2, You Say It’s Your Birthday]. I think we brought her back for that. I did that one with Steve Wasserman. That was a big show, too. That was a fun show.

[Quote] She didn't look much older or out of place than any of the other cast.

Not any worse than Ian/Luke did. I'm surprised they didn't have her try to hook up with Gil when she was still in High School.

[Quote] I have to admit I was not in the room when Mark Damon Espinoza [Jesse] was cast. I was totally appalled that they cast this guy. He had ears as big as Botswana as far as I was concerned. I just could not believe it. I have no idea what happened in that room that day when they cast him. I just thought they totally blew it. To have a guy with a receding hairline– just everything I thought was wrong. And he was a nice man but it just was never going to happen. And rather than getting like an Esai Morales, someone who was really sexy and good–I just had no idea what he was thinking, the old man.

It's not like the RA she slept with was any cuter. Would fans have bought her going out with a sexy guy?

It must be fun to write these scripts. You just make random shit up.

So dramatic, R130. I love it

I must admit this was cute.

Eeeew it was like watching him kiss his mother.

Annnnndrea wa so boring, was happy when the character left the show. First she was Brandon's friend, than the writers forced her into the group and she never fit with them. Kelly would have never been in a group than included Annnndrea as a member. And Brenda couldn't stand her either.

[Quote] And Brenda couldn't stand her either.

You don't say.

They should have made her the high school guidance counselor.

I like the episode where her younger sister (Angela Lansbury) visits.

I found her yearbook picture.

Such a cop out she went to Cal U and not Yale.

R141 Agreed! I don't believe she'd actually give up that opportunity.

Why did Brenda slap Andrea?

R143 Shan, uh "Brenda" had issues with Andrea flirting towards her teacher (played by Michael St. Gerard) so decided to wallop some sense into the girl.

She looks terrific in the pic at r89.

Didn't Andrea end up making out with all the guys except David?

She looks more like an morning news anchor on Milwaukee's CBS affiliate than a Hollywood actress.

R143 Both Brenda and Andrea had a crush on their drama teacher. The teacher preferred Andrea so Brenda slapped her while they were performing a play in front of the class.

R146 I don't think she ever kissed Dylan.

When did she kiss David?

R46 said except David

When did she kiss Nat?

And Mr. Walsh? I'm sure Ondrea came over when night when he was in his bathrobe and the hair peaking out over his jammies set her loins a blazing

Not to speak of Mrs. Walsh. Andy was a two way street whore. She liked the hole and the pole.

Mr Walsh set my loins ablaze.

I heard that Gabrielle has dementia and people are trying to figure ways to get her out of SAG.

It's done a lot in movies and tv shows, at least it was. You suspend disbelief and just accept it for what it is.

Charisma may not have been passable as a teenager, but she gets away with it by being gorgeous. The woman is 47 and looks easily mid-early 30s.

Bitch stole my look

I adored her work in Cocoon.

Watching 90210 as a toddler, I learned my first word: HAG!

Damn ,u can see jason's boner in r117 and his ass is fuckable too. What film is that from?

[R40] Lmao it’s not “Aunt Blood” it’s called “Aunt Flo” though your version is far more hilarious...

Gabrielle Carteris set my loins ablaze

R163 = Douglas Fairbanks Jr.

How did I miss that abomination at R72? I need to find the whole movie for a hate watch.

Carteris on the show didn't stand out that much for me, because there are always teens and young adults who look much older. Girls with "mom face" -- not that they're more developed, they just look more mature. It didn't help though that they dressed and styled the Andrea character like a frau. You'd think attending Beverly Hills High would leave her with some fashion sense.

It's AMAZING [R165] Copies are all over YouTube.

Classic "mom" face: Kate Winslet. She was only about 19 when Titanic was filmed, but she seemed about a decade older than babyface Leo (who is actually slightly older).

Last year on the How Did This Get Made? podcast, they reviewed that awful early 90s horror movie Sleepwalkers. Madchen Amick was in that movie, but her wardrobe was shitty and her made her look a bit older even though she was in her early 20s. Lauren Lapkus was one of the guests on the podcast and she made some comment about how a lot of teen girl characters in 90s movies looked like they were 35 due to the clothing and hairstyles. I cracked up that comment because I had rewatched reruns of 90210, other 90s shows, and several 90s movies that had some of the teen girls in frau clothes and hair dos.

The character of Andrea was a bookworm who wasn't concerned with fashion. I did laugh at how they tried to pair Andrea with hunky Brandon Walsh. I thought Ian Ziering looked worse trying to play a teen than Carteris did.

I didn't find andrea as overly mature as ziering or luke whatsy with the lined forehead. And even though she was dressed down and wearing glasses, she was still a lot prettier than tori.

In the college years, they even had her go with some hidden jewish storyline when tori looked more suited to that.