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Joaquin Phoenix is a delicate flower tortured by fame

"Last Thursday in Los Angeles, a crowd of low-key Hollywood types — actors, producers, Moby — crowded into the Taschen Gallery for a party to celebrate the new film “You Were Never Really Here.”

Meanwhile, the movie’s star lurked outside, utterly unnoticed. When he finally came in, sporting a grizzled beard and silver-tinged man bun, Joaquin Phoenix retreated to a shadowy corner with actor pal John C. Reilly and two other scruffy dudes.

“He’s really outside his comfort zone tonight,” observed a longtime Phoenix friend. “And his comfort zone doesn’t go too far to begin with.”

In fact, when Phoenix, 43, was named best actor for the thriller at Cannes, he leaned over to actress girlfriend Rooney Mara to ask her what had just happened. Stumbling to the stage, he looked more traumatized than triumphant, barely managing to stammer out a few self-deprecating words.


"Phoenix eschews LA’s favored lifestyle: he reportedly doesn’t hike, go to the beach or hit major restaurants — preferring a strict vegan diet of vegetables from his own garden.

“His circle of friends is as tight as he can keep it,” adds the friend. “Not a lot of people are going to get him . . . [and] he’s good with that.”

Sources point out that Phoenix became more of a recluse after a stint in alcohol rehab in 2005. And he’s found the perfect introvert partner. After only a few relationships, including a romance with Liv Tyler in the ’90s and seeing a 19-year-old DJ when he was 39, Phoenix is now with wallflower Mara, 32.

“They’re meant for each other,” said the friend. “Both [are] shy homebodies, both loathe press.” When the two have ventured out, they’ve been spotted at vegan restaurants and a colonics spa.

“God forbid he gets an Oscar this year,” said a publicity exec who has worked with Phoenix. “He may not make it to the stage. Everyone wonders, ‘Is he really that sensitive — or does he just want you to think he’s weird?’ You’ll always be confused about him. Which actually is kind of weird.”"

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by Anonymousreply 13108/31/2019

I think seeing his brother die right in front of him, especially after seeing what Hollywood (the industry) did to said brother, destroyed a big piece of him. He despises the industry but is talented so still lives within it. Plus his childhood was majorly fucked up. I love him and always root for him. But he's a whackjob.

by Anonymousreply 104/09/2018

It's such bullshit. He can afford to be a recluse. He wouldn't be so delicate and tortured if he had to get out there everyday like the rest of us. Well, he might be tortured, but he wouldn't be claiming some sort of identity over it.

by Anonymousreply 204/09/2018

I forgot to add that I'm a frau who fucking adored River. Jesus, that boy was HOT. Wait, am I a frau? I'm a straight, married, liberal woman with no kids by choice. Idk. Whatevs.

by Anonymousreply 304/09/2018

I was looking forward to his leaving the movies

by Anonymousreply 404/09/2018

" In fact, when Phoenix, 43, was named best actor for the thriller at Cannes, he leaned over to actress girlfriend Rooney Mara to ask her what had just happened. Stumbling to the stage, he looked more traumatized than triumphant, barely managing to stammer out a few self-deprecating words. "

I actually can relate. I was up for a pretty big award one year and when my name was announced (lucky me) my hearing kind of went away. I heard a ringing in my ear and had to ask my friend sitting next to me what had happened. It's a weird thing I guess that happens when you don't expect something big to come your way, but it does.

by Anonymousreply 504/09/2018

He was raised in a cult and had to deal with this.

Gets a permanent pass from me, anyway.

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by Anonymousreply 604/09/2018

Is Mara straight? I thought there were some rumours of her being bi or lesbian...

by Anonymousreply 704/09/2018

His whole "Artist" shtick has always annoyed the fuck out of me. Maybe its just Im superficial,but I could never stop staring at his weird lip thing to appreciate his talent. River was far more talented.Plus Joaquin looks like he stinks all the time.

by Anonymousreply 804/09/2018

Mental illness?

by Anonymousreply 904/09/2018

If he so "eschews Hollywood" why did he even go to the fucking awards show to begin with? Gimme a fucking break.

by Anonymousreply 1004/09/2018

"I'm a straight, married, liberal woman with no kids by choice. Idk. Whatevs. "


by Anonymousreply 1104/09/2018

R2 I agree.

But the Ever Popular Tortured Artist Effect™ is the ultimate in self worship.

by Anonymousreply 1204/09/2018

r12 Absolutely! it is just as self centered and egotistical to be the "introvert" who always bad mouths themselves and looks down at the floor, etc. as it is to be the "HEY, LOOK AT ME!" yelling guy. They both get you the same amount of attention but one is super fucking annoying and one is less annoying.

by Anonymousreply 1304/09/2018

Not everyone is smart. Let’s just say he’s stupid, because there’s no other indicators that he’s not.

by Anonymousreply 1404/09/2018

Don't remember where or exactly how long ago, but I distinctly recall reading an interview with Joaquin where he stated, very matter-of-factly, that he lost his virginity at 4 years old... Not 14, 4. He didn't go into anymore detail, but I'm guessing by "losing his virginity" he meant "take it up the ass" because I highly doubt 4-year-old boys are physiologically capable of performing sexually.

Maybe he was coked up out of his mind during the interview and just making a "shocking" joke for shits and gigs, but I've always wondered why that just kind of flew under the radar. It's always been interesting to me how some certain celebs manage to achieve mainstream success despite having the sketchiest backgrounds imaginable (Mark Wahlberg, anyone?).

by Anonymousreply 1504/09/2018


Wasn't the cult his parents were involved in known for sexually abusing children?

by Anonymousreply 1604/09/2018

It was River who said he lost his virginity at 4. He allegedly lost his "second virginity" while working on Stand By Me but I remember reading one biography about him and he had sex for the second time in his family's backyard in a tent while his parents were outside the tent like it was some sacred event.

I think Joaquin/Leaf just hates press and acts weirder than he is. I recall one interview where he said his mother told him while she was pregnant with him she felt a pain and he was born with a scar on his lip. Why not just say he was born with a cleft lip like he obviously was?

by Anonymousreply 1704/09/2018

Can't stand him. He's ugly, repulsive and the most overrated actor in Hollywood. Pity it was River who died, not him. And no way they were full brothers. His mother was in the Children of God sect and they fucked anybody.

by Anonymousreply 1804/09/2018

Didn’t he pull this some weird schtick years ago to promote a movie?

[quote] When the two have ventured out, they’ve been spotted at vegan restaurants and a colonics spa.


by Anonymousreply 1904/09/2018

awesome thriller full of twits/n twists...

very fun

admit it tho: he is sooper doosh in real life

the movie succeeds despite him. he has serious addiction issues.....

by Anonymousreply 2004/09/2018

Colonics spa. Just when I thought Rooney Mara couldn't have less of a personality.

And River was hotter and a better actor.

by Anonymousreply 2104/09/2018

R17 you're right. I looked it up (because it was driving me crazy) and turns out I remembered wrong; it was actually River, not Joaquin, who stated that he lost his virginity at the age of 4. I'm just glad that I wasn't going crazy and imagining weird shit. Weird that River's fucked-up parents never suffered any legal repercussions from him revealing that, but I guess it was a different time back then (also there's statute of limitations, lack of evidence, etc.).

by Anonymousreply 2204/09/2018

It sounds like from the description above that Joaquin and Mara are making each other more mentally ill and bringing out the worst in each other emotionally.

So they just stay in all the time and are scared of humanity ?

Does this relationship mean that Mara has quit her (alleged) longtime fuckbuddy relationship with David Fincher?

by Anonymousreply 2304/09/2018

[quote]“They’re meant for each other,” said the friend. “Both [are] shy homebodies, both loathe press.”

When Joaquin Phoenix was making that fake documentary about having a mental breakdown he was mostly relying on and using press and TV appearances to drum up the interest.

by Anonymousreply 2404/09/2018

Yeah, and no way is Rooney Mara *shy*. She’s a fucking actress who has made it to the top of her career in Hollywood. No way did she do that (with all the competition, etc.) by being “shy”.

by Anonymousreply 2504/09/2018

You can never be too old to dress like a hipster.

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by Anonymousreply 2604/09/2018

Mara is a lesbian and Harveysexual

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by Anonymousreply 2704/09/2018

[quote]Yeah, and no way is Rooney Mara *shy*. She’s a fucking actress who has made it to the top of her career in Hollywood. No way did she do that (with all the competition, etc.) by being “shy”.

They're confusing shy with anti-social. I attended a Q&A for "Carol" and you could have sat a fern in her place and you would never know the difference.  She loves acting, she does what it takes to get the role but I don't see her courting press.  It works for her somehow. Her sister works steadily but she doesn't get the same attention that Rooney does.

by Anonymousreply 2804/09/2018

I hate him but I love Lynne Ramsay as a director I want to see Ramsey's new film but it's too hard watching a film with Phoenix in it #crying Wish she had cast someone else!

by Anonymousreply 2904/09/2018

Wow, [R26], that is one *tiny* bag of groceries.

Why did they even bother leaving the house??

by Anonymousreply 3004/09/2018

Mara and his former gay merkin

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by Anonymousreply 3104/09/2018

Mara loves drama and she always call the paps

by Anonymousreply 3204/09/2018

Now that uncle Harvey is out of game Mara needs new methods to stay in the public eye of course she beards and lies for publicity

by Anonymousreply 3304/09/2018

[R31], he looks really depressed there and she looks really butch.

by Anonymousreply 3404/09/2018

He looks homeless ... and smelly.

by Anonymousreply 3504/09/2018

River was a mediocre actor who gets propped up because he died. I'm so tired of it. He always came off as a total fucking airhead. "I Love You To Death", his first scene in particular, is some of the worst acting I've EVER seen. He was decent as a teen actor but wasn't clicking at ALL in adult roles. Anyone who thinks he's a better actor than Joaquin is full of fucking shit. You could tell in Parenthood Joaquin was better.

by Anonymousreply 3604/09/2018

Rooney and Emma....

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by Anonymousreply 3704/09/2018

Rooney is a fraud more than he is. A few years ago I was in San Diego in a quaint cove area near La Jolla and this was when every picture of her was in jet black clothes and black leather jackets and black biker boots leaving the gym no less lol ... much like she dresses now for the paparazzi she contacts on the regular .......and she was wearing brand new pink nike trainers shiny as hell, light blue jeans, and a white oxford shirt ... she looked like a lacrosse player from Princeton .... or Jennifer Garner ......

Rooney's whole thing is an act and a facade. I still wince at the sight of her, without her "dragon tattoo heroin addict grunge hipster" uniform on for the public persona.

As for Phoenix, I hope he OD's and dies soon like his bruvahh. What a waste of a human. Another weirdo who's never worked a day in his life and is a complete an utter fraud as well.

by Anonymousreply 3804/09/2018

River was just the male Winona Ryder. Had the right look as a teen and is beloved by late 80s/early 90s nostalgia loser and that's it. My Own Private Idaho was the most boring movie ever.

I like Joaquin though. Can be a little annoying sometimes but he's one of the few people who feels authentic interviews.

by Anonymousreply 3904/09/2018

At least Mara is not in the film, R29. There is no bigger blank on the big screen.

They must have known each other for a while since they were both in Spike Jonze's film Her (thankfully, she only has one full scene in the entire film - and she is bad in it).

by Anonymousreply 4004/09/2018

I'm also fucking sick of the River/Heath Ledger martyring. Neither were anywhere near as special as people remember they were.

by Anonymousreply 4104/09/2018

Emma Stone is so obviously lesbian she dated Andrew Gayfield and one of her former fake boyfriends is now transitioning lol

She's a mediocre actor at best and If she was out she could never win an Oscar

by Anonymousreply 4204/09/2018

Who is transitioning, [R42]?😮

by Anonymousreply 4304/09/2018

I thought Philip Seymour Hoffman in Doubt was better than Ledger in The Dark Knight

by Anonymousreply 4404/09/2018

Wow, great story, [R38]! I believe it.

by Anonymousreply 4504/09/2018

R43 he's not famous but he used to fake date Emma Stone

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by Anonymousreply 4604/09/2018

Emma Stone was the worst thing in Birdman.

by Anonymousreply 4704/09/2018

River was going to play the Christian Slater role in Interview with the Vampire which was literally the has-been role. But people always act like he was dominating the actor world when he died LMAO.

Joaquin is becoming a bit typecast lately, but he's been great in quite a few films. He's the better actor.

by Anonymousreply 4804/09/2018

Stone repeats herself in every movie and had never played a serious role in a drama movie she's not a great talent

by Anonymousreply 4904/09/2018

River was james Cameron's first choice for Jack Dawson

by Anonymousreply 5004/09/2018

I remember that now, [R36]! What a surprise. Thanks!

by Anonymousreply 5104/09/2018

James Cameron has admitted that when he first started thinking about Titanic (1997) in the early nineties, he favored River for the lead.

by Anonymousreply 5204/09/2018

River would have been great in “Titanic”.

The report above said that Emma dated Teddy for *2 years*. What an odd story...

by Anonymousreply 5304/09/2018

Emma Stone's bearding history

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by Anonymousreply 5404/09/2018

Joaquin was excellent in the underrated and underseen Two Lovers. Fishsticks was suprisingly decent too. Playing herself of course.

by Anonymousreply 5504/09/2018

I think he's a great actor and I like him. Hes often kind of adorable and pure interviews. I don't get the hate. And some of you hoping he OD's. WTF is wrong with you?

by Anonymousreply 5604/09/2018

Is You Were Never Really Here any good? I liked Morvern Callar but We Need To Talk About Kevin was god awful.

by Anonymousreply 5704/09/2018

Are he and that scumbag Casey Affleck even still friends? I haven't seen them together since I'm Still Here came out. Casey publicly moved on from his sister almost immediately after they split it seemed.

by Anonymousreply 5804/09/2018

River never did anything for me. Joaquin does sometimes though. He was hot as fuck in To Die For. His character is almost mentally challenged yet he weirdly OOZED sex. When Kidman is giving him a blowjob and Gus Van Sant is shamlessly objectifying him.

by Anonymousreply 5904/09/2018

Oh dear, someone is agreeing with themselves in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 6004/09/2018

river phoenix was a moron. the whole family is like a bizarre manson-esque brady bunch.

and who the fuck is rooney mara?

by Anonymousreply 6104/09/2018

"Her" was the worst most fake-deep movie ever. 2 hour of him adjusting his glasses and delivering monologues that felt like they came straight from a 15 year old's tumblr account.

by Anonymousreply 6204/09/2018

their real last name is bottom. wouldn't YOU be fucked up and totured too?

by Anonymousreply 6304/09/2018

[quote]He despises the industry but is talented so still lives within it.

Oh please. He doesn't 'live within the industry' because he's talented - he keeps acting because what the hell else is he going to do for a living? Do you think he has any other viable skills for employment?

by Anonymousreply 6404/09/2018

eh, i'd rather watch him than those mediocre turds ryan gosling and leonardo dicaprio. rooney mara can fuck off though. she brings absolutely nothing to any of her movies.

by Anonymousreply 6504/09/2018

He has always looked like trash to me and have always found his films would be like fucking a dumpster

by Anonymousreply 6604/09/2018

R22 River admitted in later interviews that he just made that shit up for shock value. Others around him also said he was pretty drugged up and wasted by that point.

I forgot Joachin did the Parenthood movie. He was also in The New Leave It To Beaver as Leaf Phoenix. He was a good actor as a kid. He’s a shit actor as an adult. He probably fried his little brain on those outings with his dead brother.

by Anonymousreply 6704/09/2018

R57 It’s not quite as bad as WNTTAK, but like that one it’s not even a film really, just a series of gestures pasted together. There isn’t much of a narrative thread, without that serving any esthetic purpose. She elides almost all the well-marketed brutality, partly for easy style points, partly I suspect because she can’t direct action properly. Pedophilia and abuse are used for edge and salaciousness, but their inclusion removes any moral complexity. It’s smoke and mirrors catnip for a particular species of mediocre middlewit. I suspect Lynne has plenty in common with the breed, so in that sense she has achieved a certain brand of artistry.

by Anonymousreply 6804/10/2018

Isn't it based on something written by Johnathan Ames? Then of course it's bad.

by Anonymousreply 6904/10/2018

Is the movie in wide release yet? Was there a red carpet?

by Anonymousreply 7004/10/2018

I do wonder if he’s the product of an affair by the mom when they were all in the sex cult like someone mentioned upthread? He looks *so* different from River and looks sort of ethnic while River never looked that way...

by Anonymousreply 7104/10/2018

Joaquin and his sister Rain look alike.

by Anonymousreply 7204/10/2018


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They both hate the press, huh? Yet, they managed to also make the NYC premiere of his film. What a load of bollocks.

These celebs think their fans are so gullible, that they'll believe any bullshit they spew.

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by Anonymousreply 7404/10/2018

She’s homely as sin.

by Anonymousreply 7504/10/2018

He can't act. He's ugly as R75 already mentioned and he only became famous because of his brother.

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by Anonymousreply 7704/10/2018

It's not easy being high in neuroticism and low in extroversion while living in the limelight. Some people just aren't temperamentally suited for fame.

It's a shame what hard living and age has done to his features. He was so handsome in his prime.

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by Anonymousreply 7804/10/2018

That's a hard looking 43 year old.

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by Anonymousreply 7904/10/2018

LOL @ people saying he can't act. Y'all are fucking stupid. Nobody gives a shit about River Phoenix anymore. What good movies did he ever make?

by Anonymousreply 8004/10/2018

I think he's a great actor, he should have won the Oscar for his portrayal of Johnny Cash. I forgot who he was up against that year, but I do remember at the time thinking he was robbed.

There's a bunch of clueless people in this thread, which is par for the course with DL these days.

by Anonymousreply 8104/10/2018

[quote]Nobody gives a shit about River Phoenix anymore. What good movies did he ever make?

My Own Private Idaho, Running on Empty, The Mosquito Coast, Stand By Me, Sneakers, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade,

by Anonymousreply 8204/10/2018

Oh dear, those are what you call good movies? I'll accept Stand By Me. That's it. My Own Private Idaho is tedious as all hell and one of the most overrated films of the '90s.

by Anonymousreply 8304/10/2018

r80 Says you!

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by Anonymousreply 8404/10/2018

delicate my ass

by Anonymousreply 8504/10/2018

What R1 said. I mean I don't feel "starving kids in Africa" sorry for him, but I don't doubt his brother is a big part of why he's fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 8604/10/2018

I'm figuring none of the Phoenix family ever had professional training in acting or music? IIRC, one or two of the sisters are singers, think one of them toured with the Red Hot Chili Peppers years ago.

If that's the case, then both brothers are excellent actors.

by Anonymousreply 8704/10/2018

He was raised in that weird children of God cult. He probably has major issues from that. If they both love acting and hate the adoration, they can do small films, regional theater , open an acting school. Maras family is in the 1%.

They have other resources. They are making choices and they choose to put themselves in positions of public interest.

by Anonymousreply 8804/10/2018

Rooney's family are billionaires, they own some sports team. IIRC, both sides of her family are extremely wealthy.

Isn't her sister Kate married to Brit actor Jaime Bell?

by Anonymousreply 8904/10/2018

Yes, Kate is Mrs. Jamie Bell.

by Anonymousreply 9004/10/2018

Well aren't we a bunch of nice folks. Despite all the bile directed toward him- he's a major film actor, making films and living his life as he sees fit. Too bad it is offensive to those who know nothing of it- particularly the fame part- ah yes, DL.

by Anonymousreply 9104/10/2018

I believe that some actors' contracts REQUIRE that they promote the film--chat shows, red carpets, etc. (or should I say "ect."). You can hate parts of your job and still do it.

by Anonymousreply 9204/10/2018

Isn't he supposed to be a weird surly creep and we already know what a walking bag of shit his best buddy Casey is.

by Anonymousreply 9304/10/2018

He can act. He went from growing up in a bloody cult to working in Hollywood and his brother died in front of him on the way. Of course he’s fucked up. Alot of people are.

Unlike many of them in Hollywood he keeps himself to himself these days, is not a publicity whore, makes unusual choices in films ( don’t have to like them ) and, as yet, hasn’t appeared in one of those superhero pieces of shit. He also doesn’t look like a piece of plastic wed to diet and gym.

On a scale of 1 to 10 on an ‘ annoying celebrity never out of my face ‘ he doesn’t even get to 0.

So he’s vegan, gets colonics and stays at home otherwise.

What do you want ? Tom Hiddlestone ?

by Anonymousreply 9404/10/2018

Rein it in there, Johnny Drama at r94. He made a fucking MOVIE about how reclusive and eccentric he is, he absolutely wants people to watch his life and to get in our faces. He announces he's retiring from acting all the time, he makes a job out of playing "go away/come here" with the public. Again, if he were so anti Hollywood he wouldn't even be going to awards shows where he could act humble and dazed about winning something.

by Anonymousreply 9504/10/2018

He’s a great actor but this movie is shit. Ramsey is a pretentious twat of a director.

by Anonymousreply 9604/10/2018

Not really into him. I don't get it. He could leave the business. It's bullshit. I think he's gay anyway. That childhood footage of him. He's sweeter than bear meat.

by Anonymousreply 9705/13/2018

The real torture is having to sit through his “performances.” He’ll never compare to his brother.

by Anonymousreply 9805/13/2018

[quote] Wait, am I a frau? I'm a straight, married, liberal woman with no kids by choice. Idk. Whatevs.

Writing "Idk. Whatevs" in 2018 (!!!) CONFIRMS you are a frau.

by Anonymousreply 9905/13/2018

[quote] and who the fuck is rooney mara?

She's Charlie Nobody, that's who!

by Anonymousreply 10005/13/2018

Frau please get lost

by Anonymousreply 10105/13/2018

Kind of funny when the men here can't win an argument, they accuse other posters of being a "frau".

It's getting damn tedious.

by Anonymousreply 10205/13/2018

If I saw them at a mall or somewhere I'd be kind of afraid.

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by Anonymousreply 10305/13/2018

Sorry to the lady being attacked as a frau, but r99's post made me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 10405/13/2018

Joaquin is a great actor, probably better than River.

Hollywood took advantage of River? Bullshit, his parents took constant advantage of River.

by Anonymousreply 10505/13/2018

In my opinion, Joaquin and Mara are the least liked couple in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 10605/13/2018

I've heard too many stories of him being a weird asshole to ever want to watch anything he stars in and the fact that his best friend is sex pest Casey Affleck speaks volumes.

by Anonymousreply 10705/13/2018

I like him as an actor, but only an attention whore would have done the type of self-exposing documentary he did a few years back. It seems he needs to "act" when he is off camera and not only on film sets.

Both Phoenix and Mara seem like they want to project an image of who they are to the public (down to the clothes they wear). There is nothing authentic about that, it's very constructed.

by Anonymousreply 10805/13/2018

The frau was the one who brought up being a frau--no one would have accused her of it otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 10905/13/2018

A friend of mine saw him at a restaurant bar, he was drinking with friends, over 10 yrs ago, I remember thinking he was supposed to be sober when he told me. Phoenix tipped 5 dollars for every drink he had. This was in nyc

by Anonymousreply 11005/13/2018

Here's the clue - if you don't want fame, don't continuously seek it.

Don't act in movies. Don't go to high profile events. .

99.9% of the human race aren't famous - invisibility isn't hard, especially when you have the cash.

Just GO AWAY if you require anonymity.


by Anonymousreply 11105/13/2018

River was a much more engaging actor with a wider range. Joaquin is best at playing morose oddballs.

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by Anonymousreply 11205/13/2018

A lot of stars genuinely HAVE gone away when they got sick of being famous. Daniel Day-Lewis gave up acting for years by becoming a cobbler's apprentice in Italy; Gillian Anderson got sick of her fame in the US and did prestige projects in the UK, and Molly Ringwald did the same for a while in France. And of course Deanna Durbin did the same thing.

Joaquin Phoenix and Rooney Mara could so the same sort of thing: they have made more than enough money to live on quite handsomely for the rest of their lives if they really hated fame that much.

by Anonymousreply 11305/13/2018

I just came to post:

Many years ago Joaquin was in a long term relationship with Liv Tyler. Liv Tyler's mom wrote a book with Vicktor Bockris called "Rebel Heart" about her life as a rock star groupie. It is filled with a lot of delusional fantasies that Bebe wishes were true. It is an enjoyable trashy read (for the most part) and I am rereading right now.

by Anonymousreply 11405/13/2018

Bebe's one true love was Elvis Costello which I thought so odd when I was young, since he's not the hottest of her conquests, but maybe she's deeper than we know.

by Anonymousreply 11505/13/2018

It is easy to see that some of you are very young and don't seem to understand what was going on in Hollywood in the late 80s and the 90s. River was a good actor and he was already cast in important roles but you freaks only know super hero movies. At this point, The studios are just a wasteland for C movies.

by Anonymousreply 11605/13/2018

The real haters here are just our normal group of racist, right wingers. These dumbos think he is Hispanic because his name is Joaquin.

by Anonymousreply 11705/13/2018

Fuck off idiot at r117. You are really reaching if you think hating a pretentious fuck like Joaquin "go away, come here!" Phoenix is a racist act.

by Anonymousreply 11805/13/2018

[quote] It is easy to see that some of you are very young and don't seem to understand what was going on in Hollywood in the late 80s and the 90s.

Oh get over yourself, Mary.

by Anonymousreply 11905/13/2018

The “documentary” Joaquin and Casey made was fake ... Joaquin built a whole media circus around it with his weird appearance on Letterman and his disastrous rap performances but it was all an Andy Kaufman-type stunt. It was unfortunate, they wasted a considerable amount of time on it at a time when they were both in demand as actors.

by Anonymousreply 12005/13/2018

Like so many actors, River was beautiful and interesting to look at on screen, so it made his acting seem better than it was. I watched his Oscar nominated performance in Running on Empty for the first time in probably 25 years and I thought, he’s barely doing anything. Martha Plimpton acted circles around him, but she was not beautiful so nobody made a fuss about her.

by Anonymousreply 12105/13/2018

R108 i agree. River was the same way to me. Always acting offscreen too.

by Anonymousreply 12205/13/2018

I loved him in the movie HER. He was dorkable and really good in it. He can play a normal guy with a slight weirdness. I have to state he is good at the quirky weirdo type roles.

by Anonymousreply 12305/13/2018

I liked River but people built him up like he was the second coming of Brando and Olivier. He showed promise but died too young before he grew more as an actor. Phoenix while less attractive has played some great parts and is always interesting to watch.

by Anonymousreply 12405/13/2018

I wonder if his quirky off screen behavior is an act to keep people at bay.

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by Anonymousreply 12507/11/2019

[quote]These dumbos think he is Hispanic because his name is Joaquin.

Everyone knows his birth name was Leaf. He didn’t become Joaquin till much later.

by Anonymousreply 12607/11/2019

Other way around. His birth name is Joaquin but he was called Leaf because he wanted a nature name like his brother and sisters.

by Anonymousreply 12707/11/2019

He will win Best Actor for The Joker.

by Anonymousreply 12808/31/2019

Yep, looks like it is shaping up to be his year -- with maybe Pitt winning in Supporting instead. So we can honor two longtimers. I worked with Joaquin and he was a cool enough guy, even if a little Beavis and Butthead. Far from a jerk, though.

by Anonymousreply 12908/31/2019

The reviews from Venice are all raves. I love the 'Taxi Driver" look of the movie. I cannot wait.

by Anonymousreply 13008/31/2019

Ive thought long and hard about it,and the only 2 actors that I loathe beyond belief and refuse to watch in anything are Meryl Streep and Tom Cruise. Ive liked Joaquin in some things,didnt like him in others,but he hardly incites any fervent feelings in me,unlike so many of you. I thought he was sexy/ugly when he was young,now I just find him ugly,but Id still watch him in something.

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