Male gym-goer sues after 'three men masturbated while staring at him' in Manhattan Equinox steam room

He should sue but shouldn't he sue the men, not the gym?

Equinox saunas are no where near as frisky as they used to be...

I don't blame him.

I'm gay, and I'd be horrified and traumatized if I saw that.

People just don't understand how gross it is to have someone masturbate right in front of you. It's UNACCEPTABLE.

Were these people raised like animals?

I've been victimized multiple times in steam rooms, it's always best to join in, so as to not be overpowered and assaulted!

Equinox is responsible, R1.

If you don't put a stop to the bad behavior, then you are condoning it.

They have some liability here.

I think he should sue.

I think he should relax.

Let's count all the Fraus who post to this thread...

I'm thinking the "victim" is definitely a deeply closeted homosexual.

Is he naming Andy Cohen in the lawsuit, or keeping names out of it?

Watch people who can't get normal sex telling him he should have enjoyed it.

I had that same thing happen to me once at my gym. It wasn't in the steam room but in the shower. I got out and turned around and there was a 40 year old guy with his cock in his hand staring at me. Laugh all you want but I felt violated and repulsed. I should have reported him but didn't, I just cancelled my membership.

Agreed - this isn't acceptable behavior in 2018. There are tons of other places to get your rocks off.

THIS IS WHY THEY HATE US! Can't be said enough. The sex addicts cant leave well enough alone and now we all look bad.

That being said - how much you wanna bet this guy is an attorney and may have done it for the lawsuit alone?

R13 Grifters Gon Grift

R13, no, it's probably because it's become much more acceptable to report this stuff because of the metoo# movement. Prepare to hear much more about this type of thing in the coming years.

[quote]I'm gay, and I'd be horrified and traumatized if I saw that. People just don't understand how gross it is to have someone masturbate right in front of you. It's UNACCEPTABLE.

OMG, it’s horrible. Unless the guy is hot then I guess it’s not so horrible.

This thread comes with eleben godzillion venereal diseases passed by the dirty sexual gay gangbangers whom I certainly have nothing to do with, thank gawd, and the reason I survived the plague, as sex is a dirty disgusting dangerous affair, really never worth it, and TRUVADA whores now make it worse with all the barebacking and sanctorum in every steamroom in every major coastal city in the USA!!!!

Is he hot?

R3 You're a woman.

This is an extension of the SJW/#MeToo takeover. Craigslist is gone, now our pron will be taken away soon.

Lighten up, R3.

And by the way... you're wrong. There is nothing gross about public masturbation. The middle class norm you would have us uphold should be eradicated from our society.

Clutch your dick. Not your pearls.

Cameras or an employee who spot checks or a sign on the door warning of the new policy - a button installed inside the sauna labeled 'Manager', who will be alerted and come immediately to investigate alleged sexual activity, so the offender will think twice before whipping out his junk.

R19 exactly the porn and internet hookups subsidized the cruising hookups. Take it all away and get ready for a tsunami of public sex. Sex is natural & healthy and there are plenty of ways to be safe, even if the limp dicks and Fraus say otherwise, they need to get back to their Dancing with the Stars DVR recording and Adult Coloring Books!

R12, the correct word is “repelled”.

Surprised to see so many posts of support for the guy who's suing.

I have had that thought of 'fuck; what are they going to do?'

It's a horrible feeling.

The men should be booted out of the gym; the guy should get damages so he can buy a membership elsewhere and those guys should be banned from every gym.

If gyms enforced this, watch their memberships drop. All their gay members would quit if there was NEVER any chance at all of a lockerroom hookup.

R24 yep. The staff should have done that right away

Duh. Why do you think people pay that price for Equinox. The fun in the steam room makes it worth the price. I love Equinox.

I'm surprised "snowflake" lasted as long as he did in the sauna.

I think he should suck! I mean, screw. I mean, sue!

R25 so then some entrepreneur will fill the void.

All he had to do was walk out. What a bunch of mincing Marys on this thread.

Sex in a shared public area is unacceptable but Jesus, this guy must have a really high opinion of his looks. He thought they would "overpower and sexually assault" him? No, they were waiting for him to join them. He must think he's so sexually attractive that he drives men wild with desire.

I saw his pic in an article. He was not hot.

I’m happy to know there is still some action in locker rooms!

So, these 3 guys must have been desperate then.

R25 - what world do you live in? Most gay men go to the gym to...WORK OUT.

Some of you pervs who believe public wanking is normal and should be applauded are bizarre sex addicts. And yes - go ahead and call everyone sex negative and fraus.

You are not 'sexually liberated' sex-positive individuals. You're a fringe element that can keep their dicks in their pants and make it hard for EVERYONE ELSE who does not want to be assaulted by your deranged sense of sexual decorum.

Start behaving like a human being and not some id who cant control themselves and want the world to applaud your lack of self control.

R33, hot or not, the guy was scared.

it's not a pleasant feeling.

R25 Nothing keeps you from meeting a new hookup in a gym and then going to your or his place to have sex. You dont need to do it in the gym.

YING-YANG! We asked to be normal and now we'll get it. Monogamous Relationships, Babies, Perfect Instagrams and PTAs are where's it at now. Put your dicks up, we're going to be indoctrinated into the machine!

The most surprising part of the article is that it was the Equinox, the one gym in NYC that probably has the L:EAST amount of action in the steam rooms. If this guy went to a NYSC gym he would have a heart attack over what he saw.

R32 Why would he join them? Were they so extremely hot looking?

Regarding what R36 said, do you think maybe 50 years from now gays won't be able to relate at all to this type of thing? Perhaps, DL will be studied by sociologists.

I'm surprised how many people think that this is acceptable behavior.

[quote] I saw his pic in an article. He was not hot.

Link please.

Uh, r38 they can’t go back to their places because they have other partners

So now we should be criminalized for thought crimes? If all they did was stare at him, then he should not take offense. Can't really explain the masturbation part but it sounds like they were already involved in some type of group sex. If that's the case, they should have been reprimanded by the gym but it wouldn't rise to the level of criminal assault, just public indecency.

Those 3 men employed a steam engine to crack a nut.

The Plantiff may be Abby Nierman's Brother...he obviously gave "non-verbal cues"!

At my DC Equinox it's not the old timers looking for dick, it's the 20s-30s. They constantly go in and out with boners comically hidden behind their 20th towel of the day. No one cares. Do go into a steam room if seeing some horned up guy pulling on his cock. Always been that way always will be that way. You should shower at home and leave the steam and sauna to the big boys.

[quote]I'm surprised how many people think that this is acceptable behavior.

I'm not.

I doubt they would have enough time to blow a load though. Probably they finish themselves off in the showers. I'm just too lazy to bother with all that yanking and fiddling in public.

Rub a dub dub, 3 masterbaters in a tub...

Masturbating and cruising in the steam room is bathhouse/sex club-appropriate -- says the guy who has spent some time in bathhouses and sex clubs. On the other hand, it's not ok to be jack off/have sex in places like the gym, unless there's a prior agreement between all patrons and the gym that it's ok to be doing sexual things there.

I've always thought that being sex-positive includes a common-sense understanding of how consent works. It's not hot to make someone uncomfortable by presuming they're interested.

[quote]On the other hand, it's not ok to be jack off/have sex in places like the gym, unless there's a prior agreement between all patrons and the gym

Yeah, like you're going to get consent from the gym that it's okay to do this. They will look the other way since they know who their clientele are but they are not going to explicitly give consent!

The guy suing is a model so he should be used to guys wanking off to him.

R54 consent between all the guys. Not the gym

^ *be jacking off (not "be jack off")

[quote]he guy suing is a model so he should be used to guys wanking off to him.

If he's a model, then he knows exactly what goes on in Equinox.

[quote] I saw his pic in an article. He was not hot.

[quote] The guy suing is a model

Which is it?

R45 Tell those partners you will fuck whoever you want, problem solved.

Cruising etiquette is basically that you are clothed or in a towel, and maybe grope yourself once.

If the person responds, then it's a signal to take it further.

If they're not interested, then you stop and move on to someone else.

You DO NOT automatically start masturbating in front of someone, just because YOU are attracted to them. The attraction must be mutual.

This is not fucking rocket science. It's just common sense and mutual respect.

R59, not all models are hot. There are plenty of ugly ones.

Heh-HEH-heh!

R36 said "make it hard for EVERYONE ELSE . . ."

Heh-HEH-heh!

I’m not a Frau and I don’t play one on tv. Please don’t rub one out in my presence just because I’m gay.

Just like straight guys don’t want gross hags sitting in front of them and rubbing their pussies.

This is not rocket science people!

I can’t someone just wrote almost the exact same thing as me just a few comments up. I’m suing daralounge!

Who are rocket science people? Are they hot?

Are the rules clear? Is there a sign in the steamroom that says "No masturbating"? Remember, not everyone speaks English, so the sign should use symbols instead of words. Perhaps a hand an a cock... behind one of those red Ghostbusters cross circles. What about the membership contract? There cannot be a rule about nudity because people are going to be naked (especially the older dudes) when changing and using the showers. Does the membership contract specifically have a rule against masturbation?

R61 this was 3 vs. 1

The other guys probably thought it was okay because the Plantiff sat there with no reaction, as in he was complicit. This guy is acting like all the dicks popped out and miraculously the smoke cleared and he was aghast! There's more to this story.

I started this Public NYC Hookup thread after this one and hilariously there are 3 recommendations for Equinox steam rooms.

I feel for him but he should have researched gyms a little better. Equinox repuation is very well known.

That's so weird, so I go to NY this summer and I just randomly go to a gym, I could get sexually assaulted?

R71 wishful thinking

R67, there is no need for that type of signage because sexual harassment is illegal - even in gyms.

The question is if there is evidence the gym was aware of what was going on but was ignoring it.

After my 10th assault, I went the the front desk slapped the attendant and cancelled!

R73 according to the article the guy has a recording of him discussing it with the manager. And the manager admitting but dismissing the complaints.

Some people will go to any length to cancel those set-in-stone monthly contracts.

He obviously crashed their steam room yoga class. Bet he didn't even pay.

#metoo will soon include the ‘victims’ of masturbatory fantasies, wet dreams, and unsolicited erections. God help us all.

This is why... oh, never mind.

It’s Manhattan. It’s Equinox. It’s a steam room. Everyone is in a towel. This isn’t a bathroom in a Target in Peoria. #checkyourexpectations.

[quote] It’s a steam room. Everyone is in a towel. This isn’t a bathroom in a Target in Peoria. #checkyourexpectations.

Maybe this was all he expected.

R80 fine. If it's not a legit gym where you can workout without having guys jack off to you then the "gym" should have a responsibility to be honest about what they are.

They were wearing towels? Take off the friggin towels; it' a steam room goddammit.

[quote]YING-YANG!

Oh, DEAR!

Really? You STILL don't know it's "yin-yang"?

A few thoughts...

The guy is a snowflake. Grow some balls. hHe thought he was going to be overwhelmed and assaulted. Sweetheart, we're gay; we don't overwhelm and rape the unwilling in a steam room. No, they shouldn't have been jacking off, but it's not the friggin end of the world, certainly not something over which to sue. Just get up and leave--or tell the wankers to get the hell out that you're trying to relax.

One last thing, maybe the wankers thought you were gay. It happens. Get over it.

R86 EXACTLY.

One's reason to sue is another one's reason to say "Yum!".

R86 the lawsuit is not just about the incident but about how the gym responded

Does anyone have the identity of this Plantiff? His bullshit is going to ripple through the gyms and spas in NYC.

This would never happen in the Scientology steam room.

Could you imagine if a clam tried to sue me? Especially if he was a big hairy brute?

Oh, my...

R90 good

The only reason I would sue a gym for that is if the masturbators are nasty trolls stalking me for several days and the gym doesn't get these nasty trolls off my back.

R92 Frau Bodybuilder

R93 seriously who sues? What a snowflake-American way to do things. Cancel your membership and find a new gym, good luck finding one in NYC where juicy cocks don't flop out in the Sauna. Or how about this don't go in the Steam Room and just WORKOUT!

"The HOT McDonald's coffee BURNED ME!!!"

I don't know why this made me laugh.

There was simplicity to actual bath houses, not de facto bath houses.

"I'm thinking the "victim" is definitely a deeply closeted homosexual."

Or, he's just making money grab. Then again, if he wanted money, he'd be smart and sue the company AND the individuals. Sue they company and they'll pay to get you to shut up about it not because they believe you were really injured.

R97 Equinox should settle...Agreed....I think? 🤡

You GO Girl!!!!!

R99 Erna would not support this Plantiff! Erna would eat ever dingleberry from the three offender's asses, until their ass was as clean as an Incest Surviving Woman's Thanksgiving Royal Doulton China.

Some of you have zero grasp of reality. No, public sex is not considered generally acceptable, and just because you've made nuisances of yourself at gym steam rooms for decades doesn't mean it's yours to command.

You also don't get to control how other people react to public sexual behavior, you can't stop them being offended if they're going to be offended. Or going to the gym management, the people who really do get to say what goes on in the steam rooms.

Sex Panic c. 2018 This guy is a homophobic closet case! This is pathetic, sad and funny 3 guys jerking off scared him, he should be more scared about Donald Trump & his gang then 3 guys jerking off!

A man doesn't have to be a homophobic closet case to be repelled by steam-room wanking!

He could be straight, or just significantly hotter than the wankers.

That is precisely the reason why I have an extended gym membership that includes the spa. What a CUNT. I remember when I was 20, and a semi virgin, I entered the sauna once, and there were 5 men hard and wanking. One of them was hung like a poney. I wanted to play unconcerned and thought about marilyn Monroe 's assassination to deflect any hard on, but to my horror, I DROOLED. The guys started smiling and I ran away. Those were the days

R86 So if the wankers thought he were gay they thought it would mean he automatically enjoys being wank fodder for random dudes?

Also, like male on male rape does not exist. Come on. DLers for some reason like to act as if all sex any sex anywhere is desirable. It's not. Some people have standards.

"I'm not sure what happened, but I want to speak to the Gym manager!"

You can either be an adult or a special snowflake. In this case I imagine being a special snowflake makes a better court case with a hope of receiving a settlement (spoiler alert: Most of it receives the lawyer).

[quote] If this guy went to a NYSC gym he would have a heart attack over what he saw.

Thank you.

Where is the photo of the guy who is suing?

[quote]He could be straight, or just significantly hotter than the wankers.

You know, I'll bet that's it. He's suing because the sauna was full of ugly men masturbating. I'd be traumatized too.

No one is mentioning "big payday" to make it go away? In the old days it was - take a convenient fall in the supermarket & retire to Florida!

Now there are cameras everywhere, the supermarkets got wise. Where are there no cameras- steam rooms- it's anyone's word against anyone.

Just make sure you have audio conveniently running when complaint is dismissed by front desk!

Some of these scams could have the guys in the steamroom in on it!

[quote]R31: All he had to do was walk out. What a bunch of mincing Marys on this thread.

This.

[quote]I'd be horrified and traumatized if I saw that.

I just assumed the guy was gay and I still think he should sue.

Anyone who thinks this is acceptable behaviour is maladjusted and from a (thankfully) bygone era.

R115 in my days it was desirable behaviour and you just felt like a kd trapped in the candy store.

Countdown to the Huffington Post queer voices article explaining that gyms and bathrooms are sacred grounds for gay men to have sex in, no matter if all the participants consent or not. And if you disagree you are sex phobic and homophobic. The #metoo movement is something they believe in strongly, for straight people. Now shut up you heteronormative fags

Ding dongs

Frau alert @ R117

Sounds like three Dataloungers.

R119 LOL yeah, cuz that's how fraus talk.

I guess special snowflake cuts both ways though.... sure it would be fun but if you can debate that it's acceptable the fact is it's still illegal. That won't change unless the law changes and I would really be amused to see the face of the man who wants to front the fight for the right to jerk off in a gym steam room.

The best advice was upthread... call them out and tell them to stop... instant dick wilter. They'll run for the door.... probably slip on the nacreous layer of permacum... then sue the gym for unsafe facilities.

R122 you're right, special snowflakes goes both ways. I can't imagine more of an entitled snowflake concept then thinking that laws that apply to everyone else don't apply to you. Because you're just too special. A gym is a public space and a business. And shockingly some people like to use it for legitimate means. Just because you feel like you have a right to pull your dick out wherever you want doesn't mean you do.

Most of you little girls faint if someone over 40 makes a pass at you, so don't tell me you want guys looking at you and jerking off.

I think the Frauvalanch is due to not wanting already disinterested hubby spending too much extra time at the gym/sausage buffet!

And that is somewhat understandable! Public spaces are just going to become more antiseptic and lawyers are going to make a killing until the dust has settled!

[quote] so don't tell me you want guys looking at you and jerking off. No I don't want guys looking I me and jerking off at the gym steam house. Excuse me but I am a normal guy. I want them to also grab me by the hair and force their cock into my mouth, and finger my ass while they force the next guy's dick into my mouth, and slap my face. What am I ? Ugly ?

What R125 said. Bored married str8 guys galore at the sausage buffet, aka the gym steam room.

[quote]in my days it was desirable behaviour and you just felt like a kd trapped in the candy store.

And it killed a lot of people, now didn't it?

No hunty, it was the early 90's. Gen Xer here. And I 'm alive ! Matty the cat is ALIVE! Why 're you afraid of the TRUTH ?!?!

R128, jerking off in a steam room? No, it didn’t kill anyone.

I just don't think you need to make that big a deal about it. You can firmly and sternly tell them to "Cut it out!"/Give them a look of sheer revulsion - letting them know they are too repulsive to even consider/ or Make an obvious motion that you are suppressing a laugh, informing them that their meat is way below your standards.

I believe most guys would be easily dissuaded from being too aggressive. They wouldn't be confident enough in what they're doing. They are more in a [italic]What the heck. Let's see if I can get any action[/italic] mode.

R131 so people in public spaces should just have to deal with guys jerking off in front of them? And it sounds like he did the right thing, he took it to the manager and the staff. They ignored it.

Why couldn't the three jerkers just play with each other?

Who goes to the steam room not hoping there will be male action ? I remember once there was a hot bearded guy sitting a few inches away from my mouth, on the upper step of the sauna, and another guy started sucking on my hard dick. I turned to hot guy with my mouth opened and he went ' oh fuck! Couldn't you at least wait till I'm gone !!!" so we perv jumped back to our seats and resumed action once he was out.

The same non-arguments come up whenever someone brings up public sex, the trolls who've been doing this since they were young whine that it's a gay tradition and anyone who objects is a frau or a snowflake, and that doing it somehow makes it okay.

It's not okay.

It's against the law, and undoubtedly against the gym's terms of service. Pull it out when a non-participant wants to use the steam room, and you risk losing your membership. Pull it out in a public park, you risk arrest. That's all there is to it.

Gay life is such fun for R135

He should have viciously face slapped them!

This is a precious, rich fuck who thinks his money can insulate himself from the real world.

He’s rich enough to subscribe to Equinox and sue people when he’s annoyed, but not harmed.

If he hadn’t spent his life locked in an ivory tower, he would know this is harmless and ordinary. A real dude could just shake it off and change clubs if the management won’t clear out the sauna.

Then forced his dick into their mouths while pulling their hair

If, as many people here have suggested, steam rooms are just for hooking up and serve no other purposes then gyms should stop having them. If they do serve legitimate purposes then management needs to make sure that it's used appropriately.

I want to hear a lesbian version of this story.

R136 I like my life, I think it's fun. And it doesn't involve public sex.

Horny men in the saunas is as old as time. In 40 years of going to gyms including the West Side Y which was like going to the baths, I’ve never heard of anyone being attacked accosted raped or otherwise put in a situation against their will. For 40 years if some troll drools over me, I ignore him- if a hot guy drools over me, I feel good :). Relax fellas, you’re safe. I’ve never had any trouble handling it- and I thing the vast majority of straight men can handle it as well.

Listen frauen on DL, if you successfully shut down any man on man action in the gym steam room, your bored husbands will resort to walking the dog late at night, and unless you follow them instead of putting AYSHLEE and RAIN to bed, you won't be able to stop them anyway, and we'll still have them, but they'll risk murder by rough trade, so...

R144 actually, I don't hear a lot of women complaining about this. Most of the people here are gay guys who find this icky irresponsible and illegal

#MeTooPlease

I cannot believe that a guy would complain about that, unless he is a russian spy, or mentally ill. And what R143 says.

I'm gay, and would consider suing in similar circumstance. Not even because of the initial actions but because the gym did nothing about it.

R147 I would complain.

When I see real hot guys in the sauna- I “lust in my heart” like Jimmy Carter confessed to :) save it for later perhaps. Actually I’ve met quite a few guys in the gym (gasp). I think the managers of that gym knew the client was not in any trouble- except in his own mind perhaps- which he probably was the poor bloke. I really hope they don’t put cameras in the locker rooms etc.

I would sue if Equinox failed to supply Kiehl's lube alongside their other amenities.

I would jump into the action, and offer a nice bottle of bubbles to the management team every Xsmas

I don't take a moral view on steam room shenanigans, but lets at least be honest: that's not what they're built for.

The sense of entitlement on this thread is fascinating.

R97 I think everyone involved was settling on one level or another.

[quote]Who are rocket science people? Are they hot?

YES.

Suing is ridiculous. There was no harm done. He was simply annoyed, or pretended to be. Americans are always looking for a payout because many are entitled, lazy bitches who would rather get something for nothing that work for it. It is the demise of our country. Lawyers/politicians support this behavior because they benefit tremendously from it. We have far too many lawyers and far too many career politicians.

The plaintiff is clearly looking for a handout. The equinox on 63/lex is a quick ride on the F train from the broadway location and has a co-ed sauna/steam room/hot tub/cold pool area where he wouldn’t have to worry about seeing a hard dick if his delicate retinae are incapable of handling it. If he is so afraid for his safety, it sounds like this pussy was in the wrong locker room to begin with.

Not to sound like a hated Republican, but let the market decide.

On that day, there were 3 guys having fun and 1 snowflake quaking and clutching his sex-negative towel. 75% for. 25% against. The market decides that at that moment, the steam room was GAY, GAY, GAY!!!

Why should a quaking snowflake be allowed to force his will on the majority of men? Why should the snowflake be allowed to undermine this important selling feature of a PRIVATE club? Why should the snowflake be allowed to further undermine the profit-taking ability of the club owners with a burdensome tort claim? (Tort reform! Finally, a place for it.)

If you don't like healthy men being healthy, then go to an unhealthy and repressive religious fundie gym where you will better fit in.. Fundies never engage in illicit sex, right? Oh. OMG, this is everywhere!!! If you don't like a little camaraderie in the steam room, you better stay the fuck in the safety of your own home.

I would not tolerate a 'Gay Panic' defense in a criminal trial. And I won't tolerate 'Gay Panic' as the basis for a fucking, lightweight torn claim. No one touched the loser. No one threatened him. His perceptions are his own to manage. If he was afraid, that's his to deal with. He better take his fractured psyche off to a lot of intensive therapy.

The gym sauna, early 90's. Me ( 20 yo) ' wow, you are having a great erection' super hot tall muscular older guy ( early 40's) ' Oh, sorry'. Me ' would you like to have coffee? I live just a few blocks away ' super hot guy ' sure'. 10 min later, super hot guy ' thanks, but you're not drinking anything ' me, pointing at his crotch ' I'll have that please'. Boy that man DESTROYED my twunk's ass. He was a doctor, married, had the most beautiful thighs I have ever seen and an ENORMOUS dick, and he was a filthy pig to a young inexperienced, but happy man.

R139 = false equivalency

People acted like Harvey Weinstein was a monster for masturbating in front of so many women, but in this case it's perfectly acceptable? People on here act like every male in existence is gay, you can do whatever you want to them in any time, place, or circumstance, and they have no right to ask any questions or complain. If they do they are called snooty, stuck up, ungrateful, or said that they really do want it and they're just closeted.

This is exactly what feminists are talking about when they say "rape culture." Acting like you have a right to anyone's body whenever you feel like it because they are pieces of property. I don't see any difference between this and Harvey Weinstein. I don't think it is right at all in either case.

He’s suing for what? What actual damages can he show? Emotional trauma?

I’d bet the customer went to complain to the front desk and the worker took one look at him and decided that the guy was either too ugly or too gay to actually be the aggrieved party.

R160 I don't think it's fair to compare Harvey Weinstein who actually raped people to this. But I think your larger point is correct. We have a rape culture as gay men that we don't acknowledge. We somehow think that we are entitled to overt sexual demands to people and they're being pussies if they get upset. It is a problem

And bi men. And straight men.

R161 the damage of being sexually harassed, and then the business not doing anything about it. This actually looks like a really easy case for him and I imagine the gym will probably settle out of court to prevent big losses.

R163 of course

Wanking a little bit between us guys in the privacy of the locker room, without touching anyone unless they invite you to is RAPE ???

R160 is making another false equivalency.

This wasn’t rape. It was cruising.

And it was probably just gay men being oafs.

Almost always, men who have sex with men in steam rooms do not masturbate or proceed to nudity without CLEAR SIGNS from the others that they want sex, as well.

The three jerkers were covered by the steam clouds and consenting with each other. They did not know where the plaintiff stood.

But then the steam cleared when they were in flagrante delicto and a non-consenter was exposed.

So the guy who kept jerking/cruising to entice the plaintiff was just an oaf.

He wasn’t Harvey Weinstein trapping and raping people in circumstances under Harvey’s control. And he didn’t persist.

Just admit that this plaintiff is a precious snowflake overreacting because he’s a desperate lawyer on the make who trying to manufacture issues for cash.

Thank you, R53. Equinox is not a sex club. The sauna and stream rooms there are for patrons of a gym. The people who use them are not looking for sex.

The New York Post is hardly, however, a gay-friendly newspaper. Such stories as this play to its middlebrow, conservative audience who view gay men as sex mad perverts.

I can see why feminists would attack the locker room/steam room. It's the last sanctuary for masculinity. No straights, no gays, no social barriers, just naked guys sweating and showering together. When they finally impose mixt locker rooms, I'll just resign.

I’m tired of the creepy stalkers at the gym taking over the locker room, steam room, sauna, showers, etc. it’s gross. I pay a membership to be able to use all of the facilities and because of these disrespectful sick fucks I don’t even step foot in the locker room. Some of these assholes don’t even work out - they spend all of their time in the locker room. It’s not ok, complaining about it does not make someone a special snowflake, it shouldn’t be happening - I don’t care if it has for decades - it’s gross and has to stop. I’m glad this guy sued because it’s going to make the issue more public and in turn cause not only Equinox but other gyms as well to crack down on this problem and stop it from happening. I’m glad this is happening. And all of you guys who say if you see it just leave - that’s bullshit. We shouldn’t see it in the first place. Have some damn self respect and respect for others. Get the hell out of the gym.

[quote]People on here act like every male in existence is gay, you can do whatever you want to them in any time, place, or circumstance, and they have no right to ask any questions or complain.

No, all men and women on this board treat men like they're cannon fodder, therefore not requiring permission to be touched.

I was thinking 25 grand for this possible faux outrage! That's why he's using the "thought I was going to be raped" angle!

That would probably be 100 grand!

Could someone please bring all this metoo outrage to prison reform where there is a lot of rape but no profit to be made in securing Justice!

Are you guy even GAY ???

Are there not laws against indecent exposure?

^ In a locker room/ steam room?

You guys are pearl clutchers, hypocrites, nellies, homophobics and fucking nazis. You don't even deserve to be guys.

Alright. All locker rooms and shower rooms are hereby declared orgy rooms. The Almighty R176 has spoken.

"I pay a membership to be able to use all of the facilities and because of these disrespectful sick fucks I don’t even step foot in the locker room."

EVERYONE pays a membership to be able to use all of the facilities. Right there is where you and your shitty argument collapse. It's not all about you, Mary. If the special snowflake wants a remedy, he need only go to the front desk and ask that the activity be stopped. That's all the remedy required here. If the management does not take his complaint seriously, then he should take his business to a gym that provides the customer service he demands. No law suit is required.

What gives away the special snowflake is that in his law suit, he clearly names Equinox, fully knowing that the suit will hit the tabloids and cause big problems for the gym. But he names himself in the lawsuit only as "GB." As if he was the victim of a sexual assault. He wasn't touched. There was no sexual assault. He encountered something he did not like and this is his tawdry response. He has earned the scorn of every victim of real sexual assault. No real injury or harm was incurred, save for his own perceived affront to his sensibilities. He has to prove actual harm. Good luck. This should be tossed by the court at the outset, but it won't be.

The court should, however, be sure to publish the man's name. We have a system of open court in this country. Putting your name to your allegations is an important part of keeping the integrity of this important system. There are a few exceptions: primarily victims of sexual assault and children who are subjects of litigation. The snowflake in this story was not the victim of a sexual assault, so he must be a child. If he's not, then publish his goddamned name just like the name of every other litigant is attached to every other suit.

Sounds like miss thing is planning to shake - down equinox for millions! Hopefully she has zero proof and will have to pay all court costs when she loses!

Thanks R178. I hope the snowflake's name appears in the papers.

R170 is a major-league pussy, victim and a troll caterer.

They aren’t going to rape you but you change your behavior for them.

You should ignore them and go about your business.

So if a woman was to walk into this steam room and started fingering her twat and playing with her titties, how much do you want to bet the 3 guys jerking off in there would then become the delicate snowflakes/victims and be on the horn with their attorneys.

I wasn't "staring", and I was just.....scratching an itch.

What R181 says. R170 = skinny fem flaming horse faced queen who pluck his eyebrows and apply 'manke-up' in the locker room, while we roll our eyes.

Damn, I wish this thread had pictures. The man who filed the lawsuit is only known as “GB”, seriously. The initials could mean “Gay Boy”.

George Bush?

R182 precisely. A woman has no fucking business in a men's locker room. ( wether they do at all in a gym is another debate). That is why we men can relax and be men. Despise to all gay men who play by frauen rules and behave like fish.

R186 41 or 43?

I just don't think 43 would fall apart in said situation!

r43 , and people were shocked by Harvey Weinstein and that comedian who would just whip it out and masterbate. Shame shit,not all men are pigs, this is not okay.

R170 I used to think exactly like you: I'd avoid the locker rooms of the Equinox in Weho like the plague. Then I realized I was just repeating a pattern from when I got bullied in gym class in middle school (thanks therapist) so I grew the fuck up, changed in the locker room, used the steam shower, and ignored the nellies who were horrified at my natty bod.

R182, I would give sister kudos for trying and get the fuck out of there.

I would “meditate” in the jacuzzi until she climaxed and left the steam room.

But I wouldn’t snitch, I would’nt hate her and I wouldn’t be afraid for my safety. I actually have testicles.

I might giggle.

And FWIW, I HAVE encountered straight couples having sex and kissing in the steam rooms and jacuzzis.

I just giggled, then ignored them.

There was only one occassion where a mentally disturbed? straight couple were “swim-fucking” in the pool where I would have snitched if someone else hadn’t because they were a nuisance actually impeding everyone else.

We once walked into a steamroom at a gym and a young Ornamental was performing oral love on a hot sizemeat. Sadly, they stopped and we were not invited to join in

^ was it a Christmas tree bulb?

He should’ve just spread his legs and taken their seed like he really wanted to. Closet fag!

The suit filed should be required to reenact the terror-filled sequence where he fled the sauna, convinced the three horny men were going to rape him. As he flees the oncoming herd of sex pests, he breaks a heel and falls, sending pearls scattering over the granite tile. Hysterical and scrambling, he gets to his feet and runs into the hedge maze in the snow, knowing they are but seconds away from touching his love bud.

If my Sheridan were there, he’d be appalled.

R195 thanks

Next time, just call security and get them kicked out.

That's what they deserve.

GB and his minions here would have you believe that he was Tippi Hedren and we were all the Birds.

No.

R198 he complained to the front desk but they did nothing.

R198 hence the lawsuit. He complained to the front desk and the management. They said it's just something that happens

Ashley coming back from equinox

Ugh, the massive sense of entitlement you public sex trolls have!

You feel entitled to fuck in public spaces like gyms and parks, but I bet every one of you would clutch your pearls and call for your smelling salts if you saw a straight couple groping each other, or a woman breast-feeding where you wanted to cruise. Or eat, or fly or live or sunbathe. You just think it's okay because YOU do it.

You might bet that R203, but you would lose.

Get a better argument, please.

Old nelly queen can’t handle three men pulling their cocks lol

R184 —— R170 here. Wow - you described me perfectly! How are you able to figure that out so exactly from just reading my post? I don’t know what your current occupation is but clearly you need to be a CSI investigator!

Kevin Spacey is back in NYC after his rehab stint??

whether or not it's right or wrong is almost irrelevant. whenever you have an all male environment where said males are naked - especially in a city - there are going to be some guys looking to rub one out. been like this for time immemorial.

I think it's hysterical though when straight guys get their panties in a twist over scoping an eyeful. butch up, ladies! sure, complain - get them kicked out, etc. But a fucking lawsuit?! So absurd. Talk about a snowflake.

He could’ve had three cocks but NOOOO... let’s run to management to complain. What a nelly prisspot.

R208 according to the article he did complain to management and he did try to get them kicked out. They didn't do anything and that's when he sued

R203 Yes, gay people are brought up with a sense of entitlement that most straight people would never understand!

You should be a Sociolgy Professor, you seem to have a real grasp of what's going on in the world.

I really do applaud this guy and hope his lawsuit spreads more light on this these assholes. What they do is illegal and yes it is a VIOLATION - this guy did not give consent for these exhibitionists.

There needs to be zero tolerance policy for this sort of behaviour i.e. instant termination of contract + expulsion from the gym. Hell, get the police involved. If someone started beating off in Times Square they'd be done for a lewd act and public indecency. The same should apply here.

I don't see why people are making this a gay vs. straight thing. I'm gay (and in my 20s) and don't find this sort of behaviour normal or acceptable, none of my friends would either. All the people saying that this is normal behaviour have seriously fucked up thoughts on CONSENT and what is acceptable behaviour.

Nothing ever happens to me.

R212 amen

R212 MARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, come off it, R212. You write well, so it is clear you are educated. Have some intellectual integrity and acknowledge that what happens in a private club, among its members, is not in any way analogous to what happens in a public place like Times Square.

Your argument is dangerous because you so irresponsibly apply it far too broadly. Your argument is used to ban all pornography, because someone might be harmed. It is used to ban nudity, in public, in performance, or anywhere else it might be encountered, because the simple act of encountering it might 'harm' someone. Your argument is used to close bath houses, and other gay gathering places, because someone might be harmed.

Always with you people it's an unspecified, speculated upon, potential for harm to an unidentified subject at some unknown moment in the future. And you try to use that argument to control an entire society. Absolutely not. This is why you and your silly friends are labelled 'special snowflakes.' There is far more to the world, some of it messy, than you are willing to accept. The argument is wrong morally and ethically, as well as intellectually. You are wrong to advance it. And in doing so, you make your smug self a danger to free society.

Straight guys would be DELIGHTED if women exposed and played with their privates in saunas or other public spaces.

If you don't believe me, go to Cam4 and marvel at the FAT, DISGUSTING and DESPERATE women on webcam that have LEGIONS OF HOT GUYS watching them.

To say nothing of the followings that hot girls attract.

A wittier front desk man would have demanded size meat verification or "pics or it never happened" -or-

would have just started running down the hall flinging off his shirt & said "I'LL GET TO THE 'BOTTOM' OF THIS"

It's only appropriate that r214 would say "amen" to r212, because they're both probably churchy prisspots who hate gays to begin with and think they're entitled to not see what they don't like in this world like Nazis.

OVERREACTION is absolutely worse than flashing your genitals at someone who doesn't appreciate it.

"Ban for life and get the cops involved?" Why not just tie them up, light them on fire and toss them from the roof of a building like ISIS, which is what you really want to do?

A lifetime ban from the gym doesn't fit the crime. It's overkill and the people here calling for it are prissy cunts and/or homophobes.

NOBODY WAS HARMED HERE.

The management should have kicked the masturbators out of the gym for the day and issued a warning -- a permanent ban would only be required after three, repeated instances.

But running and snitching to the management delete's anybody's cool factor. There was no aggression and a real man would have SHAKEN THIS OFF.

The prisspots are ignoring that this is an UNHARMED plaintiff who is MANUFACTURING AN ISSUE FOR PROFIT.

R219 don't you know Sex is the new Murder!!

I’m still confused. Does he have a case? I can see a bit of a case against the gym because he has an actual contract with them and they failed to enforce their own rules of conduct on their premises but will that stand up in court?

Does the plaintiff have any real evidence? There are three other guys who will surely say nothing happened. I’d have to hear the recording and also know what, if any, litigious behavior the plaintiff has. From the wording of the article it sounds as if the “fearing for safety” aspect is being stressed, complete with being “shaken up” afterward and I can’t help but believe that this is a money grab.

Unless he can prove the masturbation happened I think he has a weak case. You can’t even be charged with indecent exposure in public in my state unless you are seen by the opposite sex so the fact that they exposed themselves in a male sauna hardly seems actionable.

Let's face facts. The reason the douche is suing is because the management said they couldn't do anything... because the awful, horrible, brutes who had LUST in their eyes were probably dressed and on their way out the door when our delicate snowflake whined to the manager. The manager should have handled it better (ie, put on a show of concern, and as soon as snowflake was out of earshot, bust up laughing).

No, it wasn't appropriate, and the wankers should have stopped and covered themselves with their towels, but it is snowflakes like this "GB" who are making life miserable for everyone. The wankers are not analogous to Harvey Weinstein, and GB is not analogous to any of his victims. It was three horny dudes enjoying the all-male environs who slightly overstepped the bounds of good conduct. This is not an offense worthy of a lawsuit. This is one of those cases where, should the complainant prevail, the court should award him $1 in damages along with a stern warning to change gyms when his membership expires.

I love the sexual energy in steam rooms. The Equinox in greenwich is INSANE. whoa. Lots of action there. Nysc is NOTORIOUS. I don't like doing that stuff but it doesn't bother me until cum is flying in the air and someone tries to grab me. Hot or not. Then i leave. But, it's hard out here. Get money anyway you can. I'm mad that I didn't think of it.

I really don't see that 'gym steam room ' is a public place. And yes R203, and that is because straight sex is GROSS, not sexy at all, and women should be fined when they breastfeed in public. In a mens steam room, every body is naked and gym-horny so it's perfectly acceptable to bond and have male camaraderie in what is essentially a private space.

How could it ever be proven if there are no cameras?

I'm sure he can find a parade of his fellow straight male gymgoers to testify that they, too, have been subject to such displays.

Every one else likes it, but ONE cunt. Management is right not to move.

It’s always a few idiots who don’t understand discretion that ruin it for everybody. Don’t jerk off in front of non-interested patrons.

There’s always some troll just openly rubbing one out, ruining it for everyone

How long until other Grifters pile on and form a class action? Equinox might be out of business this time next year.

The guys were in the wrong. No one deserves to be be forced to see you masturbate or more while they are going about their life. A gym steam room is not your private bathroom. It is not the bathroom at a gay club even, where these antics are more acceptable because it is "our space".

That said, suing the gym does seem like a overreaction.

R219 Everyone is overreacting, like NAZIS!!!! LOL

A bit off topic, but I’m headed to NY from LA today. What gym around the Village and SoHo should I be working out at ???? And by working out I mean male models in steam rooms

^^^EQUINOX. Duh..

Once any sex or anything sexual is completely eliminated from society the better off we'll be! I can't wait to only go to Olive Garden and Ross for a fun afternoon with friends (not worrying about being raped by nasty men) and we'll laugh and laugh, while telling each other food-based Knock-Knock jokes...hehehe 🍊U 😃

^^^seriously that's what they want.

Do you even know how pathetic you queens sound?

What do you mean I can't go around masturbating in public?! Why are you so sex negative!!!!!!!

Have all the sex you want, but do it in places where someone who doesn't want to see that, won't see it. It is common sense.

most gay men are such sex addicts they think this is just normal to go into a public facility and wack off. so sick. so disgusting. i would go sometimes to burke williams and was really surprised to see a very successful , well known malibu realtor, who also happens to be a sex addict, just casually jerking off and touching other guys dicks, its so very selfish. they dont care that others like to get a steam or sauna, their need for sex trumps everyone elses wants desires to just relax and use the spa. its so filthy to observe and no it does not matter if the person is hot or not its the selfishness of these dirt bags and those who agree with them that is most repulsive. gay men give a pass, cause they are really messed up usually about sex.

I go to equinox and use the steam room often. A few times, an old loser will aggressively flirt but in those cases I don’t mind being rude and giving them a look. That’s always been enough to get them to back off. Luckily, most guys at equinox aren’t that desperate (and are good looking) and keep it friendly. If someone started jerking off like that I’d probably report them to staff but I’d never sue. In cases where someone does that and makes someone else uncomfortable I think they should get kicked out. I’m surprised this happened at equinox. Sounds more like behavior you’d find at NYSC.

R236 it's my right to have gay sex in public! (Not straight sex of course) and you're a heteronormative, sex negative, Trump voting, Hitler worshipping Nazi if you disagree

I was fucking RAPED in a sauna. Bareback. By a huge muscle bear. I didn't complain, I didn't sue, I owned it, relaxed and took it like a man. Par for the course.

What R239 said.

R238 the guy in the article did report it. They admitted it happens often but didn't do anything else. That's when he sued. He also has a recording of his complaint to management

IT IS NOT A PUBLIC SPACE !!! NO ONE TOUCHED HIM

They raped me with their eyes!

R243 he may be repulsive, but I think closeted is the issue here.

The younger generation has grown up with a concept called "consent". Eventually, their thinking will become dominant and this behavior will not be tolerated and will be looked back at as odd.

Patrons who need to rub one off in front of strangers will be catered to by specific establishments. But the regular public doesn't need to be exposed to it if they don't desire it.

R202, LMFAO!!!

R216 It's not a private sex club, it's a gym. You've already mentioned bath houses so why don't these guys go and use them? No-one would complain. There is EXPECTED behaviour for different establishments. Why did these people choose to do this in a gym? Because they get off on the danger of doing something THAT SHOULDN'T BE DONE there, they're exhibitionists getting off on doing something taboo. If this isn't the case then why aren't they just going to bath houses? The rest of your post is just a load of tosh. Get over yourself.

R219 Stop with the misinformation, they didn't "flash their genitals" they were masturbating - a sexual act. The fact you try and downplay it shows even you must know they were in the wrong and don't want to admit what they were up to.

These people were wrong and inappropriate. The man complained and management should have kicked them out - they did nothing and so he has every right to sue. I hope he wins, it'll scare the shit out of other gyms and make sure they have a zero tolerance policy towards this behaviour.

R246 hits the nail on the head

Gym sex seems to have slowed down with the millennials and Z-ers and the towel dancing and the me-too-ing. The young'uns love to take it out to their cars.

My last 2 gyms have contract rules that include no lewd behavior. One had a sign prohibiting sexual conduct. Somebody tore it off the wall.

Now we have a rule that one must be covered in the sauna and steamroom at all times - towel dance! The old rule, at the same gym, was that one must be showered and naked in these places.

Only once did I tell a super creepy guy to stop it. And he threatened to punch me, merely for telling him to stop trying to grab my dick. And I did turn him in, waiting until he left the gym to ID him to staff. Turned out he had been reported before, so he got kicked out. Staff actually offered to call the police. I decided that was taking things too far.

Otherwise, you fake-frauen know better: This is what guys do. They let it all hang out, then start yanking it. It's a type of circle-jerk, which has been going on forever. It's homosexual behavior, but not really gay behavior. Trying to stop it with legal action is going to turn back the clock on gay rights. And a lot of the guys doing this are str8-identified, so you're going to ruin some families with your sex panic.

A guy who sees this shit going on, as a guy, knows he has a couple options: Bail, or join in. Nobody coerced him, and nobody threatened him in any manner. Anything else gets him labeled a snowflake, or what we used to call a pansy. Real men know they don't have to go crying to mommy because they saw something they don't like.

For me, the problem is that the heat of steam rooms and saunas hinders my erection - it always has. So these aren't my favorite places to play. When I'd meet somebody at the gym, we'd take it somewhere else, like a back stairwell or storage closet.

I bet you the plaintiff is a Jew.

A Reenactment

I'm making it my policy going forward to put anyone who uses the term "snowflake" on ignore.

Isn't it funny that seeing someone jerking off is "indecent". Sitting in a restaurant eating, chewing and swallowing- no, but being naked and playing with yourself is- the implication is that it is somehow harmful to others. I consider it more or less the same as someone using a shaver in the steam room. An ablution they should do elsewhere but not a big deal.

Men are horny and aggressive- they have this hormone called testosterone. In the Equinoxes I use, young men messing around far outnumber the older. It just doesn't bother me, and/or I tend to more or less ignore it unless a particularly hot guy or guys are involved- then I take notice.

Why does it bother some people so much and not me? I'm honest, I pay taxes, I am philanthropic, generous to friends, love animals- and hanky panky in locker rooms, bathrooms, steam rooms, cruising grounds, etc has never bothered me. To me, it's men, being men- pretty harmlessly. I get much more pissed when behind someone strolling up the stairs fixed on their phone screen :(

R253 Well aren't you a sassy little girl!?

Why are people associating the "right" to have sex in a gym with gay rights? How fucking warped is your perception on your sexuality? You embody the trope that "gay men are only about sex", you're fucking relics that have become the very caricature that people used to demonise you with. I'm sorry you're from a shitty era but you've allowed your entire sexuality to be defined by cruising. You're dinosaurs, accept it. Things have changed.

They did it in the gym because it's one of the last places where you have a chance to play with the poor straight guys who never get any. But you stupid feminist cuntz and nazis want us all to be gettoed

R253 you tell em miss thang

R256 I can't even imagine what this little Queen is like in real life...

[quote]Isn't it funny that seeing someone jerking off is "indecent". Sitting in a restaurant eating, chewing and swallowing- no, but being naked and playing with yourself is- the implication is that it is somehow harmful to others.

For fucks sake. I can't parody your posts because they are already so ridiculous.

"Masturbating is the same as eating a snack!"

Dear god, the queens are ready to die on their hill of being able to have sex in public wherever they want. You are embarrassing yourselves.

You do that, R253. That will solve everything for you.

Deny it. Refuse it. Control it.

You are so terribly sad.

If the three men were GQ models this would never have seen the light of day and the plaintiff would have a sore hole right now.

Yeah R262, they were probably fug old guys. An old fug guy friend of mine used to complain there were no hotties in his gym. "They can't afford your gym," I explained. "Why don't you start a scholarship fund for gym memberships for hot guys?" He didn't take up my suggestion.

[quote] Trying to stop it with legal action is going to turn back the clock on gay rights.

Oh, yeah, it's a straight line from not being able to jerk off in front of strangers to not being able to marry your partner.

Just wait until the snowflakes and Fraus get monitoring and video surveillance in Saunas or gyms just close them completely and then the hookup apps & sites go away, it'll be a tsunami of raping. Not from Gays, we can go to a bar, etc. (well most can), but the Str8 married guys who have for decades used these places to get a quick nut, that the wife doesn't give. Interesting to see how this Sexual frustration will boil over.

Fuck that, R263. The whole world drops its drawers for hot guys. They already get more than their share.

If they have to go to a shitty gym, that's fine by me.

[quote]Just wait until the snowflakes and Fraus get monitoring and video surveillance in Saunas or gyms just close them completely and then the hookup apps & sites go away, it'll be a tsunami of raping.

See, the steam room wankers are doing a public service!

If it was 3 old fugs, he was right to sue

Nothing is going away. It's just that these places are going to become specialized according to what different client wants. Why would you want sauna action in a setting with people who don't want it? Wouldn't it better if you knew all the clientele wanted the same thing?

R269 These places already exist! It's just the delusional queens thinking they're getting "straight" dick at the gym.

Hint: Straight men don't willingly have sex with other men!

[quote]Wouldn't it better if you knew all the clientele wanted the same thing?

They had those things, it was called gay bathhouses. A gym is not a gay bathhouse, but some sad old queens have watched the bathhouses close so dammit they will treat their local gym like one.

Right, back to the ghetto. Well done feminazis

When I am at the gym and sometimes want to go to sauna and if there is oral or something else going on, which almost never happens, I might give a nice smile and turn around, give them space and time. No problem. Same in the showers, I move to the place I won’t see it and let them finish whatever they are doing. Why make a big problem out of nothing? Horny men giving pleasure to one another is great!

Time for an all purpose gym and bath house combination. With a monthly membership fee. All you can eat, one price!

The gay business owners would never stand for it. They would want to charge admission twice.

Give me a break, who is the asshole who would not take his vision and then jerk off in private? Why are you guys pretending that this behavior is acceptable? It is not.

R11 It's not about lack of sex and them not getting sex. It's about having no conscience and therefore no sense of right versus wrong, just like the men who traumatized this man who went from a place of complete relaxation to complete shock in less than a second.

On another note:

These perverts were staring right at him, deliberately trying to upset and disturb him. They were inspiring fear or disgust or whatever negative emotions, to control his emotions. They wanted to see him in a repulsed state of mind so they engaged in public masturbation. Nothing normal about any of that. At all. Nothing normal about being perverted.

People without a conscious; bullies, trolls, abusers, rapists, pedophiles, criminals, perverts enjoying public masturbation, etc., stick up for each other. In person and on the internet.

It's not hard to pick out the sociopaths on the DL. They make themselves known as they stand out, and it's obvious that they are trolling, or on a mission to normalize crazy and downplay evil. They only care when it happens to them. Otherwise, they don't care about anyone but themselves. Much like the deplorables' self-centered attitude. All of that is characteristic of a deplorable.

I put them on Ignore/Block so I can't see their stupid, thoughtless, insensitive, adolescent-like replies. And, I am not subjected to their trolling either. "No conscience or empathy" stands out. A person with a conscience doesn't make crude, insensitive, low-IQ comments.

R275 raped me in the sauna!

I don't personally make a big deal out of it either, but that is me r274. I am a gay man.

However I recognize a gym is a place open to any member of the public who wants to go work out. There is no reason Mr. Joe Smith needs to see you having sex when he goes to the gym, that is not what he signed up for.

R276 fisted my brother in the steam room! Little hands though...

R276 is Phyllis Schafly risen from the dead.

R273 thanks. That's what a man would do

You are being trolled so hard in this thread. It's a tradition in DL to post stories like thes and troll for hundreds of posts. The Public Sex Troll loves these threads

People make fun of bathhouses, but it seems like there could be demand for them. Make it three levels, with one level a legitimate bar and club, another level a legitimate gym. Make sure people get good cell phone reception inside. So they can grindr to see who's in the building with them...

R283 I think the in between is what people are wanting at the gym, the balance between not getting laid and getting fisted in a sling. Bathhouses get too extreme. An idea is a gay friendly gym, with a steam room and sauna, plenty of towels, that's okay with a little jerking here and there. The Fraus will come because they won't get hit on.

I think he should have bent over and taken advantage of a surprise anal gangbang.

The rules are : you tug yourself in top of the towel if everyone in the room tugs themselves back you play

It’s a tiny room you should see everyone and get total consent

If one person has their eyes close or doesn’t tug you don’t play

There’s nothing like the scurry into sex that happens when the one non-tugger leaves to shower

You have a point.

R230, I'd take a free membership for life at a sister gym.

Last month a couple arrived at the gym at the same time as I did. Gorgeous mulatto guy, over 6 ft, with dreadlocks,a handsome face and a huge body. You know, when everything is BIG. And his high maintenance little blond bitch. You could see she had pushed him over the edge. Now. I am not DL 'hot'. I am fucking GORGEOUS . My ass is to fucking DIE. He checked me out. We undressed in close quarters in the locker room. He was everything I thought he would be, and then some. I totally licked him with my eyes. He was completely aware of it, showing off slowly, posing like a motherfucker. At the end of this epic strip, he looked me right in the eyes, with a smile. You know when black guys like you. It's like honey in their eyes. I could sense his pent up rage and frustration. He knew very well I had seen him bickering with his frau. It was all in his eyes and body language. Unfortunately, this gym doesn't have a steam room. Otherwise, I can tell you, I would have swallowed his sweet revenge on blondie.

R276 already deleted her cookie lol.

Silly frau troll.

I don't think this behavior is right AT ALL! I want to be able to take my little Brayden and Ashlyn anywhere in this world and know we're all safe. I want to know my handsome hubby, Tyson, is safe from assault when he makes one of his two daily trips to the gym, where he gets super fit because he loves me and only me.

R260- sorry- I just don't get all that upset when I see a little action. And I never said I was entitled to do so where ever I want- you said that. I simply said it does not bother me or even phase me. I neither get upset when I see two dogs humping. Do you? Please explain to me why it is so offensive and wrong (harmful?)- that is- tell me why exactly. Is sex bad or dirty? I wonder why it offends you? Ever think about it?

That said R260. I don't have sex in "public places", although in my lifetime I've come pretty close and definitely have had sex in a meat rack or two- not my thing in general and they are not as plentiful now with the sex hookup sites (which I also have no interest in.). Hell when I was young I got hit on every time I went to the gym- by lots of hot guys. Generally I like privacy, although years ago in Pines I did do it in the dunes (I guess that is public)- hell it's the Pines and all you had to do is look right or left and you'd see something if not hear it- with a very hot fellow- and a couple of others kept following etc so we gave up and just let them watch.

I just want you to try and put into words why if you "catch" two guys wanking in the sauna, that its so bad. How about if they are kissing? How about if you "catch" any kind of couple making out in the movies- do you get all angry- and please tell me why.

I just don't. And I have definitely made out in public places- although quite infrequently in my lifetime.

R288 well written! I need a cold shower.

Were the 3 horny wankers also nasty old trolls? Isn't this important info? What if they were peers - male models with sublime bodies? What if they were beautiful twinks. Or horse hung Dominicans? Would this guy be so upset? I don't blame him anyway. Its not such a big deal but really the rules for this are long established - CUT the freaking action unless you are sure everyone is into it. I was a closet case a few years in college in the early 80s. Cavernous armoury-castle style gym with a sublime set up for steam room shows then consumption in the corners of the endless locker rooms. But 50% of the time there were nasty old queens who wouldn't play by the rules. Skeeving out the straight boys and the gorgeous guys who were cruising but certainly didn't want any action from the trolls. We all know what they are like in these situations. Anti-social PESTS. Trolls of the 1st degree.

A lot of Eunuchs and hormonally imbalanced Fraus on here.

Probably also a lot of NPH-worshipping lil Frau Queens, who want a perfect Christmas card, perfect kids, perfect hubby...well guess what m some of us don't...so stick little Layndon's macaroni art up your ass!

[quote][R3] You're a woman.

I'm not R3 and I'm not a woman, I'm a gay man. So what you're saying, ALL gay men should be turned on by men masturbating in front of them? I actually wouldn't care if the men were hot or had big dicks, the point is, if the guy made no moves as if he was interested and they kept doing it, it was assault.

Nice EST R288, who the fuck uses the word "mulatto in 2018? That gave me huge laugh and was dead giveaway your post is bullshit. Go take a creative writing course.

R292 thanks. English is a second language. I love you.

R290 why are you bringing up women? It was a GUY who complained. About a MALE sauna.

R289 No he didn't. F&F/Blocked for trolling and lying.

Please- he should have taken it as a compliment, and if he was uncomfortable just leave.

R297 because this guy was obviously raised by a single mother.

I love these hallucinating queens who think they are getting “straight” guys in the sauna at the gym, in a gay area no less. The number of straight dudes who want to jack off with a group of gays in the gym sauna is very, very small. I get it, it’s a fantasy, but it’s laughable to take it seriously.

I've never understood why the big chains and Y's don't just dedicate a small room, with sauna style benches and a drain in the center of the floor that would accommodate 6 or 8 guys, and be done with it. No need for a steam. Just make sure it's entrance is somehow discreet to alleviate stigma, like off of the washroom or something. Dim lighting, call it a 'relaxation room' .... I mean honestly, the furtive homosex is never going to go away .... time to just deal with in a business like manner. The janitor could just open the door and spray it with a hose a couple of times a day, wouldn't even have to go inside!

[quote] who the fuck uses the word "mulatto in 2018?

So, you would have preferred him to say "high yellow"?

Sex clubs are subject to specific laws, no doubt.

R301, try being a very attractive white guy with a fitness model body for a day. It will change your perspective.

[quote]CUT the freaking action unless you are sure everyone is into it.

Yes, this rule seems simple enough.

Poo Shoes is all over these threads today. And being extra careful these days so it doesn't get its posts redlined by Muriel. So it deletes its cookies after nearly every post. Must be tiresome, Poo.

For instance, R288 and R295 are the same person, talking to itself. This is Poo's stock in trade, making both pro- and anti-sex arguments in the same thread, arguing with itself, and saying that gay people are diseased whores who deserve to die of AIDS.

A real man will smile, shake his head, a close his eyes

No. I am 288. 295 is a cunt

r303 as a high yella myself, yes. Preferable to mulatto.

The creative writing from this one poster is pretty funny, wonder what his next installment will say!

[quote]The gym sauna, early 90's. Me ( 20 yo) ' wow, you are having a great erection' super hot tall muscular older guy ( early 40's) ' Oh, sorry'. Me ' would you like to have coffee? I live just a few blocks away ' super hot guy ' sure'. 10 min later, super hot guy ' thanks, but you're not drinking anything ' me, pointing at his crotch ' I'll have that please'. Boy that man DESTROYED my twunk's ass. He was a doctor, married, had the most beautiful thighs I have ever seen and an ENORMOUS dick, and he was a filthy pig to a young inexperienced, but happy man.

[quote]I was fucking RAPED in a sauna. Bareback. By a huge muscle bear. I didn't complain, I didn't sue, I owned it, relaxed and took it like a man. Par for the course.

[quote]Last month a couple arrived at the gym at the same time as I did. Gorgeous mulatto guy, over 6 ft, with dreadlocks,a handsome face and a huge body. You know, when everything is BIG. And his high maintenance little blond bitch. You could see she had pushed him over the edge. Now. I am not DL 'hot'. I am fucking GORGEOUS . My ass is to fucking DIE. He checked me out. We undressed in close quarters in the locker room. He was everything I thought he would be, and then some. I totally licked him with my eyes. He was completely aware of it, showing off slowly, posing like a motherfucker. At the end of this epic strip, he looked me right in the eyes, with a smile. You know when black guys like you. It's like honey in their eyes. I could sense his pent up rage and frustration. He knew very well I had seen him bickering with his frau. It was all in his eyes and body language. Unfortunately, this gym doesn't have a steam room. Otherwise, I can tell you, I would have swallowed his sweet revenge on blondie.

R305 Look you self-loathing delusional troll. The cock you're getting is either bi or gay, not straight.

Yep R311, it's all me and my sweet little life. Jealous R312?

Aside from the usual DL Trolls posting idiocy that stirs the pot, most of these posts that suggest this creepy unacceptable behavior is acceptable, are posted by douchey homophobe deplorables.

This way they can say "Hey look, told you so, half the posters on here think this creepy, disturbing behavior is acceptable and they are gay men posting this because, well, this IS a gay men's board." AND "Here they are LOL and joking about something that's sick and disturbingly creepy, told you gays are pervs."

That's why they flooded the thread as it was an opportunity for these homophobe/deplorables to make gay people look like pervs and to perpetuate that lie. They jumped on the opportunity, like flies on a pile of dog shit.

STOP feeding their behaviors and playing into their agenda. F&F every one of them and then put them on IGNORE instead of replying to them and feeding their sick anti-gay agenda.

R314 is desperate. Lol

Im as old as dirt,and hardly sex phobic,but that kind of shit shouldnt be happening anywhere but in a bath house or a gay gym.Period. Its tasteless at best,sad at worst. Everything in its own place,ladies. What if that guy walked back to his locker,got a gun and capped those desperate bitches? Straight men shouldnt have to be afraid to go to a fucking steam room,you hungry bitches!

[quote]Everything in its own place,ladies.

🙄

R311, it's Poo. It must have found a doc to prescribe Adderall or Ritalin or similar. It's a tsunami of Poo.

Homophobes like R316 love when this shit happens. Don’t give them ammo to call you “ladies” and “bitches”. Don’t feed assholes like this.

You know I was going to sue the gym because NOBODY would masturbate when I was in the sauna! And no one at the front desk did anything about it!

Shrieeeeeeeekkkkk!

I mean, seriously, Mary. Use your words and say Stop It!

Exactly R321. If the guys touched you in anyway, then I think you might have a case, maybe, but just leave. But, my guess the guys jerking off were gross. If the guys looked like that Jeff Seid guy, that “victim” would have shot the biggest load.

I agree R316

Homophobe Troll @ R319 Blocked.

The issue here is that the three men were old and ugly. Everyone wants to see hot guys.

Onion covered this 20 years ago

[quote] I want to hear a lesbian version of this story.

Well there was the time this guy named Jerry wanted to know if my huge breasts were real so he sent this bitch named Elaine into the steam room to check. She pretended to trip and fall onto me and then groped my boobs for a good fifteen minutes.

Oh, by the way - they're real, and they're spectacular.

The permacum was so nacreous that day.

r178, you are actually wrong. What do you think brought Weinstein down, masterbating into plants. Do you see Louis CK around much? YOu know I was a fan of his comedy and I had to google comedian masterbating because I couldnt remmber his name. Career over. Men have rights too. This isn't okay to happen without your consent.

This is just another example of 4s wanting 12s and getting irate when 4s take interest in them—jerking off or not.

R223 is right. The Greenwich, CT Eq has a lot of action in the steam room. I was a personal trainer there for a few years.

Snowflakes aren’t made for steam rooms

This would never happen in West Hollywood's location (the suing, that is) since it's basically expected. During a future member tour, the membership advisor isn't leading them directly into the steam room.

However, I don't think this happens in their executive locker room so much.

Surely this has been mentioned, though I cannot be sure, being that I’ve not read the entire thread, but if this had happened on the subway, or in a park, the person(s) mastutating would have been arrested and gone to jail. There’s also a huge possibility that the arrestee(s) would have had to register as a sex offender.

It’s not OK to whip out your cock and start jacking off in a private gym. Had this happened to me, not only would I sue, but I would have called the police.

If you want to get your rocks off in an environment where anonymous men are running around nude, go to a fucking bath house. That’s what they’re for.

Equinox's whole image and brand is about being sexy and hot. If you're there at the right times, the clubs ooze sex, both from the members and staff. Heck, they had this video playing on a loop for months on a huge flat screen in the main lobby (and this video is on the mild side compared to a lot of the advertising that is shown in the clubs in a very in-your-face way). The clubs themselves are sexy. I've seen way more hot bodies (both male and female), more body parts, more flirting, and more sex in various forms being a member there than I ever imagined (and I took part in very little of it, to be honest). What happened to this guy in the steam room was a far cry from sexual assault. Like it or not, it's part of the culture that Equinox has built. Now, if this had happened at a family-oriented YMCA, for example, I could see more action being taken against the 3 members (no pun intended) having a wank in the steam room. Context matters. It's like grabbing a bite at Hooters instead of Waffle House.

When I was a member of the Y, R334, people under the age of 17 weren't permitted in the adult locker rooms. There was a family changing room for them.

That said, there was a scandal at the Ys a couple years ago. Suddenly men started bringing their young children - toddlers and younger - into the locker rooms. This happened several times.

I'm sympathetic to the unavailability of child care, but issues began occurring, unaddressed by management. One guy would parade his naked 2 1/2 year old daughter around the men's locker room and jacuzzi, displaying her in odd ways, sometimes lifting her and moving her by grabbing her groin. We hated to discuss it, but it appeared to us that he was getting off by doing this. Several times guys yelled at him to get the kid out of there, but he always came back.

Then one Saturday afternoon I came in from the pool to find a girl about 2 yrs old unattended, naked, sitting under a shower in the men's. I went to the locker room and there was nobody there, not in the bathrooms, anywhere. I wrapped her in a towel, and took her to the front desk. The guy at the front desk had the gall to say that he couldn't take responsibility for her and that the PA system was broken and he couldn't do a page. So I called the police.

While I was talking to the dispatcher, the girl's father came inside from the parking lot, and asked why we had his daughter. I explained that she was found in the locker room unattended and that the police were on the way. He had been away from her for over 10 minutes at this point. He ran to his locker, grabbed their stuff, and ran out. The police came and took a report.

After this, I wrote a letter to the city YMCA board outlining the problem and potential solutions. The no-children rule was enforced more strictly with instructions to members to report any infractions to staff.

Not long after this I quit the Y. Too incompetent, and one of the more expensive gyms in town.

I call total BS on the New York Post story. I'm in the legal profession and a former Equinox member (who has misbehaved in the steam, but only with very willing participants and never making anyone feel uncomfortable).

The Post story says the case was filed in Manhattan Supreme Court. Looking up cases with Equinox as a defendant, the only cases filed since 2017 have female names as plaintiffs and some entity "Board of Managers."

When most legal-type news is published, the name of the case and docket number are usually listed, and sometimes even the complaint is attached or linked to. None of that here, so I think some male friend of the author just told her about walking into 3 dudes jacking in the steam.

Maybe they were having a wanking emergency, did you ever think of that??

Plaintiff is a closeted Jewish guy with small cock

This guy is a racist white Christan with a mini cock who was turned down for sex by hot hung ethnic studs!

You guys realize that nobody ever said the guy was straight and the wankers were gays? A straight guy wouldn't give two shits. The bros constantly wank together watching porn. For me it's a queen. Who felt rejected. A queen with issues. Possibly with some mental disorder. It's perfectly normal for men of any orientation to relax in a steam room after a good workout. Good for the staff to ff him

It’s completely normal.

R341 Harvey you ATTACKED WOMEN. It's a completely different situation. Wanking in circles in locker rooms is completely part of being male. Always has been. No man normally balanced can take offense in that. It's not about sex. It's about bonding and communication.

R342 is a delusional troll with no idea (or regard) about consent.

Just to check R342, you do know porn and the various scenarios it depicts are fiction, right?

When you are naked in a men's steam room, you have already consented. Stop being such a prissy cunt. If you are menphobic, stay clear of the locker rooms

R345 I really hope that's a parody post, otherwise you're a fucking rapist in waiting.

"He wore short shorts, he was ASKING FOR IT! - R345

Nobody TOUCHED the fucker. He fantasized about being raped. Lol

Oh, dear America. Sex-obsessed but terrified and shamed by it at the exact same time.

Oh, I just ignored one troll and half the posts in this thread disappeared. Thank god it's mainly trolls.

I love you R348

Love how gays here try to justify perverts who wont bring it home when straight guys don't want to watch them. This is why straight guys have problems with gays. The guy should sue, it's not a gay bath house.

R351 I'd say anyone with any decency has a problem with these types of gay men, not just straights.

Plaintiff IS gay. Millenial gay. And I am appalLed to see DLers support this homophobic attack.

Gurls, GURLS! You're all strident cunts.

Like this is the first time this has happened at Equinox in Manhattan. I'm sure it's been going on for quite a while until finally someone wanted no part of it.

r355 Or an adult bookstore.

r355 Or an adult bookstore.

OKAY R355 !!! (screaming) DID YOU HEAR BITCHES ??? TAKE YOURSELVES TO AN ADULT BOOKSTORE

[quote]He wore short shorts, he was ASKING FOR IT

Yeah, someone wearing short shorts IS asking for it. He is asking for attention, comments, stares. No one has the right to touch him, but if he is concerned that someone may, he should protect himself better.

Same thing with the sauna. If someone goes to a steamy room full of naked me, he may see a boner. If he didn’t want to see a boner, he should have stayed away.

It’s called personal responsibility. Unfortunately personal responsibility doesn’t bring you attention and underserved cash like a lawsuit does.

r359 So it's his fault they mastubated while looking at him? And how many times have you jerked off in a public place, which this gym is whether you queens like it or not, while staring at someone. You obviously speak from experience.

This happened well over ten years ago at the ES Equinox. They closed the steam room for nearly a year because of the complaint.

r358 (Sreaming back) THAT YOU FOR SHOWING SOME COMMON SENSE!!!!!

The plaintiff has made her case! No more shenises in the steam room !! Fetch her smelling salts and make room on the fainting couch!

Thanks R359 I didn't dare say. Plus, when I was forcefully penetrated bareback and violently fucked in a sauna by a stranger who was twice my size and weight, despite screaming NO repeatedly, until he put his hand over my mouth and locked my arms behind my back, I knew who was to blame: ME. That's what you get being a slut. And that's exactly what he said when he let me go. 'you are a little insolent whore and you SHOULD be punished. Hard.' and I knew he was right. It's called 'rough sex' bitches

r156 63rd & Lex is at LEAST a 20 minute ride from 19th/Broadway, each way. Maybe you don't have anything else to do, but I don't think 40 minutes, plus the inevitable "sick passenger" or "train traffic" delay a reasonable alternative. And as a lawyer, I cant tell you how many times a client has come into the office to sue someone and tells me "you know, I am not the type to sue, but ...." and my guess is, when someone wrongs you, you'll be wanting to sue too! You'll see.... it will happen....

This is proof that we need more public face slappings

R365 lawyer? Mmmmmmmm please describe yourself sir

Textbook Classic Shakedown

I suspect this "GB" creature had the smallest dick in the room and could not compete with the big gay boys.

If "GB's" dick had been the biggest in the steam room on that fateful day, none of this would have happened!

Who cares if he’s wearing short shorts. He’s probably looking for guys, but hot guys. The guys jerking off probably looked like Harvey Weinstein and this angered/offended him. You have to be hot to jerk off to him, you can’t be fug.

r370 Oh, that is rich.

True. 3 hot guyz=no problem. 3 old fugz= I sue

It’s true.

Gross

I never ceased to be amazed by the fervor and verbosity the public sex trolls bring to their cause!

Of course no amount of talk will make public sex legal, socially acceptable, or within a gym's terms of service.

He's gotta be gay. Closeted queen probably. Felt offended they thought he would like such a thing! The horror! Only bitch ass women sue for some shit like this. Not right to just jack off in front of someone, but come on. Who's going through all that trouble to make a point. TO BE HEARD. haha. Who? Y'all know who. Or it's a sting operation. A mole. A narc. Y'all know how this works.

R376 you are loved. Thanks

Isn't it pretty much understood what goes in on a gym steam room? Why not just avoid it?

R378, exactly! I know what the steam room is used for that’s why I don’t use it, but for what it's used for, really used for, go for it. Who cares, don’t like it stay out. If gross guys enter, leave. This case should get tossed. Closeted guys are bad news. They are bad news. And, dangerous. Stay away.

You're all insane.

Pics of GB or it never happened.

R160 Being gay also doesn't mean a man wants and will accept sexual advances from any other male in existence. I've got a line of guys wanting to show me their cock, each one hotter than you, so get in line and out of my steam room.

I do believe that his anger atens from the appearance of the men and no other reason (unattractive to him), but why would he ask for it if he wore short-shorts?

STEMS from

R348- thank you- and thank you to another poster for the old Onion article- very funny.

So the DL logic here is that if you're in a steam room in a gym, you can be subjected to watching sexual acts, and if you're bothered by it, you're automatically a closeted gay man.

No- you're just a pearl clutching prig- perhaps not real happy with your own sex life and apt to advise others on theirs :)

r387 And you're a fat, old whore that nobody wants.

Watching is the only way r387 can get off. They won't let him join in.

At my gym, a man was masturbating in the pool area to women and girls in the open. They just called the police and the man was arrested. The same thing happened the very next weekend, same situation. No lawsuits going on. Something is off about this. If you find the men gross, call the police or leave. Did they call police at equinox?

[quote]Something is off about this. If you find the men gross, call the police or leave. Did they call police at equinox?

Did you read any of the text r390? He says he went to the employees to tell them about the situation and they refused to take any action.

My gym.

R391, eesh; that happens at my gym too.

Actually, the management passes on getting involved when ass-holes hog machines, get abusive or threatening, etc.

But they kicked two guys out for fuckin' around in the steam room, declaring 'we're not a 'gay' gym.'

My gym.

Sounds fishy to me R393. He also describes himself as “sitting, in the corner”. What does that have to do with anything? I think when people describe themselves as a victim, they aren’t. Like the other guy from San Fran who tried to sue equinox for getting massaged for a long period of time by a man? The guy was a closet case, same with this steam room dude.

R395, you can be gay or straight or whatever and not want guys masterbating in front of you at the gym.

The front desk not lifting a finger is a problem.

How long was he sitting there watching them before he bailed? I can understand walking in on it but he really couldn’t see through the steam? Hmmm

Then find another gym. I mean, fuck off. Women and girls in the links above went through a lot worse than this narcissistic closeted asshole and they’re not suing anybody.

Or, leave an online review or call the local news. This dude is out for cash.

R388- you're right- I'm old (64). But I am one of the best looking damn 64 year olds you ever saw- and when I was young- well, let's just say that I got followed all over the place in the equivalent of Equinox back in the day- still do although much less. I cannot begin to count the number of guys over the years who pulled out their dicks or whipped off their towels...

Sounds hot R400. I am a sucker for a hot daddy. Please describe yourself

(This will annoy the pearl clutchers so I will indulge french slut). 6'2", 180- lbs, lean, still have the washboard, large fat and curves up- balding salt and pepper, use to be ash blond- I keep it short- not the bald look. Naturally smooth- no man scaping, I like hair on men. Quite athletic although I work hard to allow the creaky knees to keep me skiing, among other activities. Not at all freaked out by horny men in the gym- more of less been that way my whole life in gyms, every gym, everywhere from the Jadwin at Princeton in the 70s, Cole Gym at NYU in the 80s, to the West Side Y to World Gym to Equinox in NYC where I belong- a great gym chain.

Since you are French perhaps you know that in the ski hotels/chalets in the Alps men and women mingle in spas, naked and covered, flirt etc and somehow don't get all bent out of shape like Americans over sex and nudity.

I am 47 yo, 5"9, 140 lb of pure muscle, 6 pack, big pecs and quads. Firm Bubble butt. Little fur. Brown hair dark eyes. Pretty face and a submissive whore.I have sucked more cock in the steamroom than there are stars in heaven.including the staff and coachs's. How can we get in touch?

Oh my stars! A penis! With the lights on?

*death clutches pearls*

R403 Traveling to Paris this summer. You must know some hot must places to visit, clubs, saunas etc.

R402 Living out his fantasies. I bet you're a phone talker too.

The 2 hottest places to visit R405: my hole and my mouth

R406, lol, no fantasy- just truth. I'm at the end of the line in terms of being desirable. That part of my life is coming to a close- but it was a helluva ride- and I survived.

I want you R402. Blue eyes?

I like the idea of a relaxation room that one of the posters commented above.

If boys will be boys, give them a specific room to play in. I wouldn’t have an issue with that, and I don’t see why others would. If you don’t want any action, don’t go in!

As a frau, I can tell you that we also face issues in the steam room. Remember Bally’s? Well, there was one location in LA years ago, that for whatever reason, was swamped with Asian women. They never used the gym, they all congregated in the actual steam room, and all of these women, who were in horrible physical shape, btw, would walk into the steam room, and drop their towels. They then proceeded to sit on the wooden benches, completely nude, while yammering away in Korean.

There was no getting away from it, unless you went in at 5:00 am. By 9:00 am, until closing, these women would come in and out in droves, and take over the fucking steam room with their bare assess and twats. Managment NEVER did anything about it, and many of the gym fraus complained.

It was really gross, and obviously bothersome, because to the non Asian female patron, there was no peace or relaxation to be had in that steam room, and at that time, it was one of the only locations that had a steam room for women in that area.

As soon as LA Fitness opened up, I left Bally’s, and never looked back. Funny, that particular Bally’s was eventually bought out by LA Fitness, however, the problem with the steam room persisted.

I personally do not want to steam in a room filled with a bunch of frauen speaking loudly in Korean, while watching them sit their bare asses down on porous, wooden benches, with their legs spread wide open for everyone in spitting distance viewing their beef curtains.

Gym etiquette DOES matter.

Frau...no penis, no opinion thanks. No one invited you btw. Leave

R411 hasn’t used his penis since 2001.

[quote] no penis, no opinion thanks.

Then I guess it's a good thing I've got two boxes of them in the freezer.

R349 Especially the rapist and public masturbator at R345. A troll trying to normalize this unacceptable behavior because he engages in it himself.

Put him on ignore and a lot of nasty replies disappear. At least until he comes back using a different device.

Lol the ultimate crime on DL ' you posted several times'. Loser

^ Those who blocked you can't see your post.^ The post is skipped and they can't see the message which is why they blocked you. Just so you know.

And I care because ?

R414 He was the one I ignored!

^ Yes, and he's back @ R417 411 & 415 and about twenty-something previous crazy posts when most of us can't see his ridiculous comments. I think he's the creep that was masturbating in the steam room.

He keeps posting his crazy comments anyway as if we can see them, like an argumentative person on the phone who is still talking at you and arguing with you even after you've already hung up on him.

If he wanted a hand job he should have just asked politely, there is no need to sue.

Blocking is a god send but after a certain number blocked, the thread doesn't roll on the screen very well. And I have hi-speed and amazing computers. The tech seems to struggle with censorship.

This thread is now hopeless.

Hopeless. Not really R421. The troll has 30-40 posts. It has to be a male, an emotionally stunted one with no boundaries or common sense. But hopefully Muriel will ban him from both devices he's posting on if he's getting a lot of F&F's and put on ignore.

Once at the original Equinox at West 76 Street - where there was plenty of action - I was in the steam room with two other men, each of us on a different side of the room. We all had our towels wrapped loosely. The guy opposite me was flirting and started the usual touching through his towel, and I responded, doing the dame thing. Both of us assumed the third guy was gay, too, although we didn't approach him. But before we got any further, he said, in a very nice way, "Listen guys, just because you're in the steam room, you shouldn't assume you're entitled to play around. It's not cool."

We stopped, and both of us said we didn't mean to make him uncomfortable. He said not to worry, and that was that. And on reflection, he was right, and also handled the situation in a very positive way.

Usually I am pretty careful about making moves in a steam room. You have to rely on gaydar, to an extent, to get a sense that all the men who are there are up for the same thing. In most instances, people know when and when not to be obvious. Figuring out who is who is also part of the fun of it.

And yes, there are more than a few married/straight guys who like to show their meat off and even join in some play. Doesn't mean a thing. Just good clean, dirty fun.

dame thing = same thing^

I worked out at NYSC today. The changes are already happening. Those that were identified as mastrbaters were rounded up and sent to a barracks in the Bronx. They were made to wear red flowing robes and bonnets that obscures their peripheral vision. Rumor has it tonight they’ll be forced to give handjobs to the rich, entitled spank worthy of Manhattan while the recipient’s spouse cradles the hand job maidens between their legs.

If this happens again you must DEMAND to SPEAK TO THE MANAGER!

Anyone who claims not to have had sex in the steam room is a liar or dead!

What a prude. Anyway this story's boring without David Hogg.

We hope she gets not one penny

More boy is not getting sex, so he has to sue the gym to pay for his escorts :(

And someone else jumps on the bandwagon.

Is Mary the sue-er that scorching hot that people can not resist touching her?

Photos?

[quote]everywhere from the Jadwin at Princeton in the 70s...

You’re about 7 years older than me so this may not likely be the case, but if by any chance you were there in ,78 or ‘79, we may have run into each other. Although I was more partial to Dillon Gym orvthe Firestone Library bathroom on C floor.

However, a quick bus ride from Nassau St. to NYC would put me at the Club Baths where - with my student ID - I could spend the night for $6.00.

Tell us more stories french slut, I'd love half of your confidence.

[quote]“I’m as gay as they come...”

How homophobic. What does this even mean? I think “RS” is a plant. I think equinox is going to be dealing with a rash of stings and bullshit—and, gay men are going to experience the brunt of it.

The New York Post is Republican, no? The Post seems to be the only one covering equinox, and the first man, as well as the gay as they come man just seem to give interviews to only the Post—under aliases, no less. Which is peculiar for the gay as they come man because you’d think he would give his full name and not be ashamed since he’s as gay as they come.

I’m sure he meant to say he was only gay when he cums in the steam room.

Don't cum on stuff other unsuspecting people might touch...that's just base level human courtesy.

oh please, if it was 3 women playing with themselves he would've enjoyed it. hippocrat.

He will be unable to prove harm.

What is wrong with these sex panicked homosexuals! Guys have been having sex on steam rooms for 2,000 years!

People are way over the top. I’ve have guys I’m not attracted to touch me in the steam room, at parties, in clubs, on the beach... I’ve seen really unattractive people fucking on the beach. WHO CARES? I didn’t die. They didn’t ram their cock inside of me and give me a disease. It’s part of interacting in society. Would you rather live in a sterile world where everyone behaves like a schoolboy? These prisspots have to realize that they’re not so important, and getting a glimpse of a boner or having your knee touched is not the end of the world.

Also- they are at manhatttan gyms????! I don’t understand how someone - especially a gay man- an adult from nyc can behave like a common small town frau who never left her hometown.

Because it’s bullshit, R442. Look who’s covering it? Republican rags. These guys couldn’t even identify themselves, even the gay as they come guy. It might have something to do with their competitors and them opening equinox hotels.

"hippocrat."

Exactly!

The lawsuit's gone class-action, bitches!

He should sue. These thirsty queens need to stop harassing people. This is why they hate us.

At least one of the other 4 men joining him in the lawsuit is gay himself.

[quote] So now we should be criminalized for thought crimes? I

Masturbating in public places is not a "thought crime," Pervy.

You're supposed to jack off in the steam room. Sheesh. GTFO if you don't like it.

R449 really?

Yes, even straight guys wanna wank in the steam room. Don't take away the male-to-male bonding joy.

Enough with the de facto bath house bullshit of gyms - reopen more actual bath houses.

R452. I agree with that. I can't do Grindr.

I like how in the article the gay as they come gay says the manager just nonchalantly told him, "Oh yeah we have a big group that comes in every Thursday night for an orgy.,"

[quote]At least one of the other 4 men joining him in the lawsuit is gay himself.

And? What’s your point?

Where’s the stop for this gravy train?

I need to jump on. Get me some $$. I was at an Equinox last Tuesday and a muscle dude turned me down and said I disgusted him. That’s gotta be worth something, right?

R455 because a lot of commentators were saying that the straight guy was obviously gay and the lawsuit should be moot because of that. And this shows it doesn't matter the sexuality the problem was the behavior of the other guys

Thank you, R457.

My concern was something else. This being the DL and all, I sincerely expected someone to post that as if, because the person is gay, he’s lying or shouldn’t file suit because he “should've enjoyed it” or some other such bullshit.

Glad that wasn’t the case.

Consent is a big deal these days.Personally I never felt threatened when some troll, I had no sexual interest in, jerked off in front of me or looked at me in a "Yum! / Momma's Mussy is all wet!" kind of way. Was I annoyed? Sure. Did I leave? Sure. That was my choice.

Mature adults should know about action having consquences and having the power, or common sense, to make their own choices (and live with them).

R410 A 'fucking steam room with their bare assess and twats on benches, completely nude, while yammering away in Korean' sounds like hell.

Human beings who can't pronounce consonants send me insane.

It's a compliment if someone jerks off at you!

As someone who has jerked off in every NY, LA, SF, & London Equinox steam room, I think there should be some etiquette to follow:

1. If you can tell that two or more fit younger guys out of your league are cruising and sweating it out for each other until someone leaves, don't be the queen that no one wants, cock block and stop all the action. Please have courtesy and leave. If I feel like I am walking into something, I will leave unless given a signal. It's hot and it's a sacrifice to broil for a nice cock. 2. I'm noticing eldergays wearing bright Havianas in the steam - it just doesn't look cool or youthful, but dated and it's a give away 3. Don't wear clothes in the steam room or sauna b/c it stinks and it kills the mood for any action for the rest of us. In a gym where everyone walks around nude, it's a red flag that you are in underwear or shorts. I purposely sit nude across from you so that you will be uncomfortable and leave 4. Please don't bring your mobile into the steam with your earbuds. Who wants to worry about you recording that shit and putting it on pornhub 5. Asians, don't be so thirsty. When the steam becomes a rice fest everyone leaves. 6. Short men and/or uber queens, please don't take the long bath towel and fashion it into a mini skirt look. Even if you were hot, the short skirt look kills any sexiness and it doesn't make you look taller 7. Shut the fuck up in general - if I'm not going to cum, I want to relax

Thank you! May we all have a more satisfying work out as a result of your cooperation.

Mary!

The way the courts look at it, from a legal standpoint is this, "offensive and unwelcome." So if the behavior was offensive and unwelcome (and apparently it was) he has a strong case. It's the difference between non-consensual versus consensual sex. That is how the courts will approach it.

People with a sense of entitlement don't care if the person was offended and didn't want this unwelcome behavior.

An adult with the brain of an adolescent has a sense of entitlement. So they are essentially an adolescent in the body of an adult because a sense of entitlement is not normal for an adult. It is, in fact, abnormal. But the brain of an adult who has emotionally matured doesn't have a sense of entitlement. The courts will look at that as well. The male gym-goer has a strong case.

R462 wow. Congrats. You might be the worst person on DL. And that is impressive

R464 yeah, he has a strong case. I guess they settle out of court. The gym's biggest problem is they ignored and dismissed his complaint

r462 nailed it!! lol, perfect!

UPDATE: Manhattan Equinox sauna

^^^^ BUMP ^^^^

[quote] The “disgusting” incident lasted more than a minute, the employee alleged, adding he was initially too stunned to find the exit.

Too stunned to find the exit? Since when is a steam room like a rat maze? He was an employee. He know the steam room. Don't sit there for over a minute. Get up and walk out. Or tell the guy "Stop that right now or I will report you to management'.

Ruining a guy's career because of a failed come-on attempt?

This is a very Mary! thread.

He's a perverted deviant who should be exposed for exactly who he is. If he is engaging in these behaviors imagine what other behaviors and fuckery he engages in. It's never one thing or one incident. He is not mentally fit to be a lawyer. He is not lawyer material.

Jerking off in front of another patron while winking (ogling) and smiling as he cums is perverted and totally inappropriate and unacceptable even if you think it's okay. In what reality is that fucking okay? How about this? He could have not done that.

Or the pervert could have gone off into a corner and turned his back to the guy and then discreetly jerked off into a towel he was wrapped in without making any eye contact as he shot his load. That is still fucked up, but at least it wouldn't have led to a lawsuit.

Can I sue the gym if I slip on the jiz?

R470 / 471 have done this in front of others who DID NOT want to see it, which is why he is normalizing this incident.

According to the article there are now dozens of lawsuits against the gym. I don't think this is just going to blow over like they had hoped

Sounds like a money grab as every guy in E knows what goes on in the steam room.

E will settle with this special snowflake and he'll then have sufficient funds for a down payment on a cottage in the Hamptons.

Perverts, sexual predators, pedophiles, etc., and their ilk always stick up for each other. No one else sides with these disgusting people, only those who are like-minded, like these pigs. Looking at you 470.

Fucking breeders. Same shit at Vanderbilt Y on E 47th. Was heaven on earth for steamy sweaty fun. Midget Italian gimp used to patrol the steam room. Should have been gang raped to death.

Others will start coming forward because these creeps never do it once. There is always a pattern. Same with sexual harassers, rapists, child molesters and flashers. Never one victim, always many victims. Soon enough we will see more people coming forward.

The jerks on this thread who support this mental abuse and don't think what these mentally ill guys did was wrong are the very ones who give gay people a bad name. Yes, you are the ones who make the gay community be perceived in a negative light.

R480 Fuck off to your suburban house with white picket fence and Tupperware party.

whew! that's not my gym.

Lord some of you are so starved/addicted. There is absolutely nothing acceptable about this behavior in the year 2018.

Ok. It all makes sense now. I saw the accused "masturbator" and he's middle age and unattractive. Had he been a hot muscle stud the "straight" guy would have given him a gentle rebuff or maybe even a gentle rub.

He would have not been shocked,stunned and hellbent on pressing charges.

That being said. For Christ sakes, will you freaks having to act out sexually in semi-public or public places go see a therapist or something about your compulsion? ESPECIALLY the ugly guys! NO ONE wants to see that.

Funniest that the thirstiest one of all is the one basically telling "rice queen" Asians to leave / that they're thirsty, lol.

its not really surprising this brings out more comments than practically any other thread. I dont think its acceptable to do that is a gym. However it almost universally goes on in most gyms in the mens locker rooms to one extent or another. I would say it would be advisable to skip the locker room altogether. I know this happened in a steam room, but once you enter a gyms mens locker room, all bets are off. I know many guys including gay men that skip the locker room and the saunas and steam rooms and pools as they are too much of a hotbed of activity that should be done in a bedroom. With grindr and all of the ways to easily hookup with people for sex today its too bad this kind of behavior hasnt dwindled. IF you work out over a lunch hr tho it seems hard to skip the showers...........I would say if it bothers you enuf, use the gym at times when you can go home to clean up. To me this is unacceptable behavior.

I agree. I also think they should have rules posted that are clear and concise and cannot be misinterpreted. And breaking the rules should end in termination of their membership with no refunds.

That behavior is grossly immature. It's too bad a small percentage of immature assholes with the morals of a snake ruin it for everyone.

God people, get over yourselves. If it were someone hotter maybe the employee wouldn't have minded. There are typically clear cruising signals and the steam room is very easy to exit when someone starts jerking it or overly adjusting themselves in their towels. I'm just waiting for someone to leak a video since they don't patrol cell phones at all in the locker room. Here's hoping to more post workout cumming in the future.

^ Unless you are 16, you're the perfect example of what happens when you stop emotionally maturing and your mind never matures a day beyond the age of 16 = emotionally stunted.

He should have masturbated and sprayed jizz all over their faces. That would teach them what happens when you jerk off in the gym.

Tough beans, Steam Room Trolls, if the gyms are going to stop tolerating this sort of behavior then you're shit out of luck and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it.

Your playtime habits were never legal and never considered acceptable, they were just tolerated for a while, and now that toleration is going to be withdrawn for fear of lawsuits. Never mind whether the lawsuits are justified or money grabs, that doesn't actually matter, because what you've been doing has been illegal all along and you knew it. The law is going to side with anyone who makes a complaint against you, and that's not going to change, you're the ones who need to change.

Whether you like it or not, R491 is right. Straight men found out that the rules changed for them with the me-too movement (justifiably so) and gay men are finding out now that the rules are changing for them too

[quote]Please don't bring your mobile into the steam with your earbuds. Who wants to worry about you recording that shit and putting it on pornhub 5.

Wait, you're kinked enough to jerk off in front of people in a public space, why the shy shit about being filmed? Be the proud perv you are and let the world watch!

[quote]He should have masturbated and sprayed jizz all over their faces.

Honey he's 65, he probably barely dribbles.

To most gyms, the question of sexual activities in the steam room or locker room is economic, not moral. Will they make more money from the steam room trolls, than they lose from people quitting because they're disgusted by the steam room trolls?

The thing is, that if men are going to start suing for sexual harassment, then the steam room trolls are finished. They never had a legal leg to stand on, just the expectation that men would consider it unmanly to sue the gym because they allowed these things. If #METOO has changed that, and the gyms start to view them as a genuine financial liability, then they're gong to need to find another way to have fun.

R494 completely agree

The only place this happens is New York City.

^ True.

And aside from that, there might be cases where an older 55+ person is being sexually harassed by a bunch of young punks. I am not suggesting that the other way around is acceptable. It's just so low rent and disrespectful however you spin it.

The posters here who think this is normal are the ones who sexually harass others. Because men who don't engage in that behavior don't support it.

I don’t take part in steam room sex, but I like to know it’s an available option should I decide to give it a try. It’s part of what distinguishes cities like NYC from cities like “Springfield”. Whatever you want to do is possible and at your fingertips here. I feel cheated that I’m too young to have experienced the shenanigans at the piers/ in meat packing.

It’s funny that people complain about nyc becoming dineyfied, yet they (or others) clutch their pearls regarding a steam room boner.

"Unwelcome" is the key word. If everyone is consenting it's fine. If not, then it's not a good situation.

Non-consensual = harassment because it is unwelcome.

For example, Trump does not sexually harass Ivanka because she loves the attention, sick as it is. But if she were angry and upset about it, and didn't welcome his leering and lusting creepy behaviors, then it would be sexual harassment.

R500,

I think the problem is that although everyone in the steam room is into it, somone who is not into it may walk in. Even if he catches what is going on for 1 second, it would be non-consensual and therefore be harassment.

R501 just what I was thinking. You can't really have consent from everyone in a public place

[quote]I don’t take part in steam room sex, but I like to know it’s an available option should I decide to give it a try. It’s part of what distinguishes cities like NYC from cities like “Springfield”. Whatever you want to do is possible and at your fingertips here. I feel cheated that I’m too young to have experienced the shenanigans at the piers/ in meat packing.

How romantic of you. You do realize those shenanigans is what turned AIDS into a epidemic don't you?

R503,

I guess I didn’t think it through. I painted a picture in my mind of hubdreds of guys by the Hudson, with lights shining on the water, and fog rolling in. I didn’t imagine actual penetration, more like some light oral action I guess. Reality was probably much different.

Nothing will change. NYHRC went through similar things. The guys that do that stuff will just be more careful now. Lawsuits won't change horny steam trolls.

This kind of thing has been going on forever and it's up to the owner to police it. When John Blair, who is gay, had his gym on 8th Avenue, there was a strict no sex policy. If you got caught, you got frog-marched out the door, no questions asked. It was also true for David Barton, who is straight, in the beginning. I can't speak to later as I only went to DB for about a year. Maybe if Equinox didn't hire gay porn performers as trainers, they wouldn't have these problem. And just in case it isn't clear, I'm 100% gay and have always thought this kind of behavior was harassment.

Don't listen to the bitter queens, r499. The docks, backrooms, bath houses, trucks, ect. were just as empowering as the first few gay pride parades. I'm grateful to have experienced them. And, although they didn't help the AIDS crisis, closing them all down didn't stop it either so I'm not sure there's provable cause and effect. I'm sorry you didn't get to experience it, too, but you have other gifts that we didn't. You get to chose to get married and have children. While not perfect yet, attitudes in the U.S. are much kinder than they were then. You have many role model to choose from and there are more every day. Be happy that you didn't have to live through the 80s and 90s when your friends and lovers were dying. Please just try to be kind to those of us who are still around. Especially the bitter ones.

Tempest in a teapot. Its really very simple,a time and place for everything. In a bathouse steamroom,fuck and suck to your hearts content. In a gym that ISNT exclusively gay,act like gentleman.

Back when I was a gym bunny twink (yes, the '80s) I got a free membership to the very gay Chelsea Gym. Not a visit went by without some muscled stud strutting around the locker room with a full boner. I not only enjoyed watching and participating in quick sex, but scored many a post-gym hookup. Good times.