What's the deal with Tom Cruise??

With Tom Cruise, there is no deal.

He is aging out of his past roles. He looks way too old for these action movies. It's time to start playing more age appropriate roles.

Being the supporting character or a dad.

You already know.

He can't handle the truth.

He's a malignant narcissist. It's too bad that he's as dumb as a box of rocks, also.

I'm sure this has never been discussed here before.

He had the soul audited out of him.

I think the final verdict is that he is a-sexual, putting his career and power status above any sexual desires.

That being said, I believe there is some truth to the male escort rumors. I just think it stopped when the tmz era arrived. Nowhere to hide.

Fundamentally, cruise is stupid and isolated. He would have benefited greatly by going to a four-year university.

If he had done so, I don’t think he would have got sucked up into clamville. Also, he wouldn’t be so awkward and robotic if he had socialized around normal college kids.

Who cares about this old closet case ? In bigger news,Channing Tatum is getting a divorce!

Asexual and on the spectrum.

Yawn. Are you new here, op? Do a thread search.

He's just fucking nuts.

Uh, I don't think anyone really knows, or cares too much. Probably straight for all purposes though.

just a controlling Scientologist freak

What about the persistent gay rumors about him?!

When he farts, do you think he lifts his left cheek, or right cheek OP? Never mind. I still don’t care.

"The problem is that you haven't studied psychology Matt, and I have ..." -- Cruise to Matt Lauer a few years ago.

To those who say he lacks education!

Wasn't he in Stan's closet?

He eats, breathes, sleeps and shits Scientology.

Insane and completely controlled by Scio. Never thought of him as hot, and now just mildly creepy. Supposedly fell out with Spielberg by sending in troops and troops of Scio followers to preach at cast and crew during production.

I love reading about completely new and original topics on DL!

Do we care now that he is old and unattractive?

7 out of ten on a good day?

He's been busy packing fudge.

That was [bold]EXACTLY[/bold] what I thought too R5!

At this point it doesn't really matter OP. He's a narcissistic, unbalanced freak. The main thing is that we don't want him to be gay.

I had to look up what year he joined Scientology. It was in 1990 thanks to his then wife Mimi Rogers.

Before Scientology, onscreen he behaved and had the vibes of a more or less typical young guy but, after joining Scientology, the further he got into it, the more robotic and fake he became both onscreen and off.

His appearances on Graham Norton (one of which I was watching again recently) are very EXTRA! Every word and every movement seemed very scripted and very self-conscious. It's the behavior of someone who knows they're being watched.

Even on "fun" talk show appearances, he never lets you in with a glimpse into his true self like other actors do.

Just compare him to another Graham Norton guest Helena Bonham Carter. She's nuts too but she's endearing and seems at ease even though she probably loathes doing publicity. She's being herself. Not putting on a self-conscious performance.

Below is a photo from 1983 of him and his Risky Business co-star Rebecca De Mornay.

They were dating at the time but I've noticed, even though he looks more natural in those days and they had amazing chemistry in the movie, the body language between them while out and about in public as a couple for two years after the movie seems more like they're just friends or even siblings.

The only photos of them (that weren't from the movie or were publicity shots for it), the only touching they do is holding hands. More often than not he's completely removed from her and either has his hands behind his back or clasped together in front of his crotch.

There are photos of him walking way ahead of her in the street. I couldn't find any photos of them with his arm draped around her shoulders or the pair of them with their faces lose together like you see with regular couples (especially young horny ones).

I also found photos of him and another "girlfriend" Heather Locklear.

I could only find photos from three separate events (based on their clothes). At a glance, they seem like a cute couple but then you notice the body language and they look more like polite work colleagues at an office function.

Compare their body language to when Heather was dating Tommy Lee or Richie Sambora. She was all over them and you can tell their love was real.

Same with Rebecca De Mornay and her later lovers - plenty of photos of her head resting on her man's chest, arms wrapped protectively around each other, adoring looks exchanged.

Neither had that with Tom.

So I'm going to say he's asexual. He may or may not be gay but he definitely has intimacy issues both physically and emotionally.

Don't forget, Tom went to a seminary for a year but got kicked out for reasons unknown.

Give it a rest people. He is not asexual he is a closeted gay self conscious man. Rebecca and heather were beards just like Katie and Nicole. I actually think his lover is the guy who leads the scientology movement.

Listening to Heather explain their date, he was more interested in dancing with himself.

He always did the big block busters, but he used to seem to try to mix them up with roles that required acting. Not saying he was necessarily, good but he seemed to want to be an actor and not just some action star. That no longer seems to be the case.

R29 I always preferred him in stuff like Jerry Maguire and Risky Business and A Few Good Men and Rain Man and The Firm. You know, when you used to act. Now he just does bloated action or sci-fi movies with no soul. He's not going to be able to do those forever.

Suspect he's gay, but I don't know. What I do know is 100% true is he had an under wraps fling with David Geffen before and during the filming of Risky Business. I know this first hand.

And, look at who produced Risky Business.

Tammy - who is 100% homosexual - is tiny all over!

As a young man, I think he was gay. Now, after about 30 years of being Scientology's prize possession, there can't be much of him that has not been poked, prodded, and reshaped by Xenu. The narcissism is still there because that is the key to Scientology's hold on him. He is a man with a broken self-image desperately seeking approval everywhere from everyone.

Should have gone to college? Barbra Streisand should have gone to college. She graduated high school second in her class of several thousand. Tom Cruz is severely dyslexic. He can't read. He was the perfect target for a scam like Scientology. They give him all the pre-digested knowledge that they want him to have. He didn't have the good sense to see the problem in that and run. But with a broken self-image, he probably could not.

And it's all far too late now.

R31, unless you were there, that's not first hand.

It’s sad to think of the legacy he’ll leave behind. He’ll only be known for being a Scientologist. He really had the makings for becoming a classic, true Hollywood movie star but his unsettling personal life has taken that away. And with all of his money and the platform he had he could’ve been a tremendous humanitarian instead of squandering all his money into Scientology. And to what end? What does it get him? Hopefully one day soon he’ll have an epiphany and try to salvage what’s left.

R34 Maybe R31 was in the room recording them?

It’s hard for me to imagine him, on top of some broad, pounding her lady ham.

I can't imagine Tom Cruise having sex with anyone, male or female. He's like an asexual robot.

R3 That film was made to handle him *not handling* the inner workings of CoS. The uniforms are no coincidence.

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I really don't want him to be gay. I can't stand him.

I'm embarrassed to admit this, but I would still pound that ass.

Back rolls?

R28 The only person I ever saw dancing with themselves (in front of a mirror, in a club) was a young gay man.

I don't go to clubs all that much, but never before or after did I ever see someone dancing in front of a mirror.

R27 Pretty sure he's in a LTR with that guy. They're that type of couple where the two eventually become twins. He's a midget, too.

Misscabbage's wife DID go missing - hmmmmmm

I used to read rumors of him hiring hustlers and the would both don wrestling singlets and wrestle. And that was all they did...

The story Heather relays removes him from any consideration of heterosexuality (obvious he didn’t even try to hit it). Sadly, we must conclude that he is a non-practicing gay man.

Had forgotten about that R46. You're right, it does add up.

True, r47. A straight man would've been pouncing on a 20-something Heather Locklear. She was every straight guy's fantasy back then.

Cruise can't keep doing stuntwork. He and his crew have been hurt or killed during several of his last projects on stuntwork gone wrong, and his name attached no longer means huge profits generated.

He’s a horrible father.

I get it now—OP made this thread in honor of the upcoming National Tom Cruise's Middle Tooth Awareness Day (April 8th).

I think he was gay or bi at one point but he’ll never self identify as such thanks to his brainwashing. Its really sad to me that he could have tried out so many more unique roles in his youth, but his drive to be the most mainstream cookie cutter male lead wont allow it. The only things you Ive liked him in were Collateral and Tropic Thunder and those dont really clash with his ego or manliness so they werent big gambles.

The Asian market is what's keeping his films successful at this point.

I can totally see him being a big deal in the Asian markets. Nobody else cares, and he'll still see it as "winning", since it's all in the numbers. How a guy like this ever chose a career as an ARTIST is being comprehension.

Of course what he takes part in couldn't be really called ART, so...

Brainwashing.

He is employed in brainwashing and those who buy his product live primarily in countries with little to no respect for human rights, and education. That's a great record.

During Cruise's marriage to Nicole Kidman, the couple endured a great deal of public speculation about their sex life and rumors that Cruise was gay. In 1998, he successfully sued the Daily Express, a British tabloid which alleged that his marriage to Kidman was a sham designed to cover up his homosexuality.

In May 2001, he filed a lawsuit against gay porn actor Chad Slater. Slater had allegedly told the celebrity magazine Actustar that he had been involved in an affair with Cruise. This claim was strongly denied by Cruise, and in August 2001, Slater was ordered to pay $10 million to Cruise in damages after Slater declared he could not afford to defend himself against the suit and would therefore default. Cruise also sued Bold Magazine publisher Michael Davis, who alleged but never confirmed that he had video that would prove Cruise was gay. The suit was dropped in exchange for a public statement by Davis that the video was not of Cruise, and that Cruise was heterosexual.

In October 2012, Cruise filed a lawsuit against In Touch and Life & Style for defamation after the magazines claimed Cruise had "abandoned" his six-year-old daughter. During deposition, Cruise acknowledged that 110 days had passed without him seeing her. The suit was ultimately dropped.

R9 Channing Tatum is a closet case too

Leah Remini feels that he never advanced emotionally beyond the time he became a star at such a young age.

In August 2006, Paramount cited Cruise's "recent conduct" as the reason they did not renew their production contract with him.[116] In addition, Marketing Evaluations reported that Cruise's Q score (a measure of the popularity of celebrities), had fallen 40 percent

Leah Remini and her date

I don't believe for a minute that he's actually gay or bisexual.

Scientology cured my homosexuality

R60 Yeah, his manic episode surrounding and preceding the promotion of the 3rd Mission Impossible (jumping on Oprah's couch, attacking Brooke Shields, the manic Matt Lauer interview, etc.) resulted in that production deal ending. It also caused him to lay off the public promotion of Scientology, because had he not there was some chance that he would have been canned in Mission Impossible. It gives people the impression he's distanced himself, but he fairly recently moved to where the Scientology headquarters are in Clearwater, Florida.

It's actually kinda weird - outside of promoting his movies when they come out, he's never really seen in public. Makes you wonder what he actually does with his time.

James Cameron has admitted that when he first started thinking about Titanic (1997) in the early nineties, he favored River for the lead.

sorry wrong thread

R31: Another actor was supposed to be the lead in Risky Business. Apparently, the whole cast and crew were ready to start filming when, a couple of weeks before shooting began, little Tammy snagged a meeting with Geffen. It’s on record that Geffen then insisted that Cruise get the lead and used his clout to make sure it happened.

This was even worse than Tammy’s “acting” in “Last Samurai”

I’m kind of over being a part of the gay community since the gay community has transformed in my lifetime from creative, intellectually provocative civil rights soldiers to living for unprotected sex with as many lookalike gym addicts as possible and conforming to every trend thoughtlessly and absolutely...but even so, I am gay and I do not want to be guilty by association with Tom Cruise. He needs to stay “straight.” They can have him. He is deranged, an abusive egomaniac who has to lord power over everyone around him while maintaining a “nice guy” facade in the press even when no one believes it anymore.

R69 I agree with you r69. If you can’t come out by 30 these days you are just worthless.

Some guy who was in the catholic seminary with Tammy has said that both he and Cruise engaged in oral sex.

I imagine eventually we'll find out what Cruise is hiding including whether or not he is gay - some sort of expose will be done by someone. That probably won't be for a good 20 years at least, though.

Or maybe he'll come out on Twitter after he's been accused of molesting a 13 year old. Who knows. Life's full of surprises.

So, is Scientology a de-gay Camp?

It’s not weird that he’s rarely seen in public. He is second in command of a globally criticized cult. Cult members tend to stay inside their cults...that’s sort of a defining feature of cults.

I don’t have a hard time imagining him with a woman or a man or anything else. He is an insecure narcissist. Anything that tells him he is beautiful and gifted and endowed with the glory of god turns him on.

(Travolta on the other hand is a big ol’ homo.)

[quote]It's actually kinda weird - outside of promoting his movies when they come out, he's never really seen in public. Makes you wonder what he actually does with his time.

You never see Cruise out and about in LA or NY, getting papped going to and from restaurants, shopping etc. like other celebs. It's like he never goes out in public at all.

I think he does get out and about, however he doesn’t do it in the public eye. A lot of those photographs you see with celebs hanging out are pre-arranged. Also, a lot of celebrities put themselves in situations where they can be seen and papped.

Wolfgang Bodison was VERY close to Tammy during A Few Good Men, the non-actor had nights and nights of private coaching from La Cruise.

He's a fine actor.

Didn’t one of Miscavige’s former aids state that he used to mock Cruise. According to him, Miscavige and the rest of his funkies would get drunk while reading Tammy’s auditing files. The guy couldn’t say what was in the files but Miscavige would laugh his ass off.

I wonder if Cher and Geffen compare Tammy stories?

He will always be driven by overcompensating for insecurities, needing to control his entire world.

R40, that is not really his butt. He wears a wierd prosthetic piece. look at the left side of waist and follow down. No butt jutts out from the SIDE like that.

Always does

R84 He could be. He is really short, and a lot of short men pack on muscle and get a lot curvier proportionally than taller men do.

Why would any guy, even one as fucked up as Cruise wear a prosthetic butt piece.

Not prosthetic, I used wrong word, I guess. A LOT of actors wear butt enhancers- and he does.

Cruise was always the one actor I felt was deeply in the closet. There’s other actors that have been gossiped about on here and other sites but Cruise fits the stereotype more than anyone.

Tom Cruise year book photo

At least he's not plastic like Pitty and doesn't lie about his height and his past like Pitty

How tall is he?

R79 is a fake pic.

R92 He's a tall 5'7. He carries himself well.

R94: He’s 5’5 and wears built up heels and boots.

R95: He's 4'8 and walks on stilts.

R96: When he started out in the business he used to crush coke cans and stuff them in his footwear.

R40: David Geffen pounded that ass. And he wasn’t the only one either, the Italian guy who produced Taps pounded little Tammy’s ass in return for casting him in the movie.

R98 fan fiction

Cruise is 5' 7" (1.7 m) Pitt is 172 cm but Pitt claims to be 183 cm lol here's Pitt w 164 cm Jennifer Aniston and he's wearing shoes!

RISKY BUSINESS

However, Scottish comedian Billy Connolly piped in on the topic, laughing at the notion Tom was some sort of pint-sized midget, exclaiming that "Tom was at least 5ft 10...[he's a] Smashing guy. Everybody thinks he's a small guy. He's not. I think they would like him to be wee. I think they're jealous b**tards.".

Another actress who worked on Eyes Wide Shut with Tom, also revealed that "We started chatting and I cheekily said, 'So how tall are you? C'mon... back to back!' And he did! Answer: he's a smidge taller than me and I'm 5'7 ¾. Myth dispelled - he's not 5'2!"

Top Gun behind the scenes

Looks like Tammy was the smallest person on the Top Gun set. :(

Tammy IS 5.5, in his big gurl heels he is 5.8, in bed he is ass up, crown down.

Depp, Pitt and Clooney wear elevator shoes too Tammy isn't the only one

Tom Cruise, Matt Dillon, Patrick Swayze, Ralph Macchio, Emilio Estevez, C. Thomas Howell, y Rob Lowe en el set de “The Outsiders”, 1983.

Emilio Estevez, Rob Lowe, C. Thomas Howell, Matt Dillon, Ralph Macchio, Patrick Swayze & Tom Cruise.

R111 He is standing on a bale of hay.

Matt Dillon looks like Jennifer Garner in R11 photo lol

R112 proves my point in R113 Suddenly, he's the same height as Karate kid and no longer close to Swayze's height . Rob Lowe's biography talks about the Tom ego. Funniest part of outsiders is when Swayze does a flip over the gate as the gang goes to fight and Tom does something similar. You can actually see the bemusement/ shock on Swayze's face.

IMDb has Val Kilmer's height at 5' 11 3/4", Anthony Edwards at 6' 2", Rick Rossovich at 6' 4", and Whip Hubley and Tom Skerritt both at 6'. Clarence Gilyard, the (apparently) shortest guy standing, is listed as 5' 8 1/2" and Tom looks at least an inch or two taller. Or he could be standing on a box.

No one cares about the child rapist Rob Lowe

Weirdest disparity in height between scenes was in Edge of Tomorrow. He towers over the lady soldier in j squad in one scene; the next, when everyone is suited up, they are suddenly the same height.

I mean, why? Height does not translate to power... Own your shortness. It inspires your guts.

He’s one of those celebrities that make people who work for him sign non-disclosure agreements, so clearly he has something to hide. I don’t think he does drugs, so he must be trying to hide details of his sex life from the public, such as having sex with men.

He’s an asshole and he looks ridiculous in those pics from the Outsiders movie.

DiCaprio is fan of NDA

[bold]Leonardo DiCaprio Makes Employees Sign A Weinstein-esque Non-Disclosure Agreement[/bold]

Kind of explains why you never hear anything about DiCaprio's private life but everyone knows he's gay anyway

I'll ALWAYS love Tom no matter what you fat whores say.

Lots of Scientologists jumping in on this thread! We see ya. Say Hi to Xenu for us.

His buttfucky cult king BFF David Miscavige makes Tom look tallish...

...but Miscavige is a bona fide little person.

Miscavige is widely reported to be physically abusive to men and women in Scientology. He has the Napoleon/small dog complex, and so does Tammy.

He is not 5’9”. Impossible. 5’7” with lifts, 5’5” when standing up straight in socks.

Lil Miz Muffatt

^ Those 2 pictures with Miscavige as the tiny man in the middle are absolutely hilarious.

Sad that Tommy has molded himself after that douche. Many many years ago he trying to mold himself after Paul Newman. That was a much better goal.

Apparently David miscabbage used to pull out Tom Cruise's auditing files at private parties, read out passages and laugh. Cruise is going to have to spend his life in the cult, otherwise all sorts of crazy shit will come out.

I've met him twice, albeit briefly. He's very short, quite charming and has the sex appeal of a Ken doll. I believe he is truly asexual.

Masc4Masc, bro.

Go on Wiki and read about the core beliefs of Scieonos. It is truly whackadoodle. You won't believe anyone could actually believe in such obvious bullshit. They make Mormons look almost normal.

r21 brought a ducky! Ducky, ducky, ducky!

He's taller than Linda Hunt.

R122 = Rosie O'Donnell

There are lots of closeted actors and short actors in Hollywood Tom is not the only one

Here's Pitt in elevator shoes next to a car

I’m 5’11” and I kinda want to try elevator shoes. How tall will they make me? I’d like to see the world from on high.

Does anyone really care anymore?

Widdle midget Miscavige is a Philly born con man who is insane, and imbecile and extremely dangerous, without his church army he’d be selling cheap meth in Camden NJ, a vile piece of shit.

As said upthread, the scientol-leader is his real lover, it’s sad because because they probably have great chemistry and would have been a sight to behold fucking in their prime. Unfortunately they have to keep up the crazy cult thing and dug quite a hole for themselves...Jesus I didn’t know they were both so Goddamn short!

I’m not sure what the “little person” threshold is, but Miscavige can’t possibly be a full five feet tall.

Note that Miscavige (far right) has his hair fluffed to the heavens and is wearing elevator shoes, and he is still shorter than the boy and the girl on the left.

How to cheat reality using camera perspective. Commander in chief in print, sassy little midget in person.

Misscabbage is really short. Is he Tom's partner for real?

Don’t ask me how I got my hands on this secret private footage of Tom and David.

R146 Tom likes her trophy wives gargantuan and her psychopathic male life partners toy-sized, like him!

“There’s so much oxygen down here, Nicole. That’s the ONLY reason I’ve ever suggested you get down on your knees. Not even kidding.”

Katie Holmes is 5’9”.

Tom is a pocket gay, and David Miscavige fits in Tom’s pocket. Basically they are the Russian nesting dolls of the cult world.

gargantuan is exactly the right word for Kidman

Tom with a grown man.

I still do not see the point of this whole discussion. So Brad is short....so? So is Pitt and many many other men on this planet.

*Tom

Scientologists creep me the fuck out.

So what is the personal sexual dynamic between Tom and David? Both are narcissists. Both are Type A Napoleons. But to run a cult as huge as Scientology, Miscavage’s psychopathy and manipulative talents but be absolutely off the chart. Who’s the bottom? Does Miscavage berate, threaten, abuse, and ration affection to Tom like his asshole father did? Cruise is Miscavage’s most valuable possession, I have no doubt they’re lovers. What makes this tick besides blackmail? Does Tom “like” the blackmail?

I don’t think he’s with Miscavige, I do however think he’s in Scientology for life. As others have already mentioned he’s a high school dropout who can barely read due to dyslexia. And Miscavige knows just how to play up to his insecurities and ego. I also think they’ve accumulated a lot of dirt on him over the years, and I’m sure Cruise knows certain things might be leaked if he tries to distance himself from the cult.

He is a fascinating case study to me. An uneducated (high school dropout) man who can barely read and who has become trapped in a glass bubble (or whatever kind of bubble) due to his being elevated to a national movie star status decades ago. He has lived in an isolated, insulated world of privilege and sycophants and hangers-on for decades. Adulation. Fame. Wealth. Been given all the breaks and favors. Been the object of lust (well, he WAS) for millions. And, yet, with ALL that, he still has to wipe his ass and grow old and die. And he has aged out of the "hot young star" years. But is still trying to be "boyish" and an "action star." Like Madonna, he is desperate to cling to youth. We all would like to stay young but it is the desperation that shows through.

And NONE of Cruise's trappings (the mansions, the money, the fame, the good press, the hit films) guarantee happiness, contentment, a sense of purpose, a sense of joy. He is trapped in a virtual prison. I wonder if he literally even knows WHO he is or if he remembers who Tom Mapother is/was?

R159 like a lot of other stars (Jennifer lawrence, dicaprio, brad pitt come to mind as examples.)

I agree, r159. Also, how he got into movies has always been rather mysterious. He was a blue-collar kid from New Jersey, who was not terribly bright, and then a year after high school he got roles in two mainstream Hollywood movies. To the best of my knowledge, he did not enter show business until after he left high school. Exactly how the hell did that happen so fast for a kid with absolutely zero connections? This has never been addressed, to my knowledge.

I think he might have been molested as a child; I can't remember the exact details, but he has said that his father was physically abusive to the whole family. Cruise also spent a large part of his formative years involved with the Catholic Church, so I think it's a possibility that he was abused sexually by either his father or a priest. That alone would be enough to mess up anyone for life.

I also remember reading an interview with some guy who attended the Franciscan seminary with Cruise. he stated that they both engaged in mutual masturbation and oral sex.

I've known three men in my life who told me they were molested as kids, and the poor guys all had psychological problems/PTSD as a result. That kind of thing really does stay with a person for the rest of their life.

R161: There's actually been quite a few rumours about how Cruise got started in Hollywood. It's been alleged that he had a sexual encounter with Franco Zeffirelli in order to be cast in Endless Love. He also got his role in Taps due to his connection with Zeffirelli.

How he got his big break in Risky Business was due to David Geffen. Apparently the Director didn't want Cruise for the lead role, he'd already decided upon another actor. However, Geffen was the producer for the movie, and final casting approval was ultimately down to him. Somehow Cruise got Geffen to change his mind and force the Director to cast Cruise as the lead just a few weeks before filming began. This all happened after Cruise had a series of private "meetings" with Geffen.

Johnathon Schaech says director Franco Zeffirelli molested him

R161,R162, and R163 - the most straightforward explanation is the likliest. He was sexually abused (church and/or dad), physically abused (dad, on record), and got his breaks through hustling. That said, he ran with the opportunities and escaped dysfunctional upbringing. He’s with Scientology due to blackmail and Miscavige’s psychpathic control. Whether some of that control is sexual, hard to tell. It certainly would have precedent if the abuse stories were true. But hey he’s an adult, not sure how much of a victim Tom really is now.

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I remember reading an interview with an actor who went for a meeting with Zeffirelli. He was interested in being cast in a movie Zeffirelli was all set to direct, and had been told by his agent to turn up at Franco's house late in the evening. Anyway, the actor(who was straight)stated that Zeffirelli expected him to put out right there or he wouldn't get the part. When the guy turned him down Zeffirelli just acted bemused, and simply told him to leave. I think something similar happened with Cruise, and that's how he ended up being cast in Endless love.

something similar happened with all the Harvey Girls too

Rumors

MissCabbage looks scary in R170 photo

Apparently Cruise actually believes in Xenu, and has been told by Miscavidge that that he's destined to save the world by being enthused with the reincarnated theton of the saintly L Ron.

Is Tom's teeth is Outsider his own teeth or fake teeth for that film?

*The Outsiders

Has anyone heard that Scientology song "we stand tall". I believe Miscavidge ordered that song to be written and produced when the IRS were investigating the cult. Apparently the guy who wrote the song hated Miscavidge, and he wrote the lyrics to mock him. If you watch the video you'll see 5'1 Miscavidge singing his little heart out to "we stand tall".

Why hasn't anyone beaten the crap out of Miscabbage? What are they so afraid of? If that little chihuahua laid a finger on me I'd put him in the hospital.

I'm also glad Tammy's career is in the crapper. I hope this is Spielberg's revenge. Tammy deserves everything he gets after messing with Spielberg and his (Tc's) lifelong involvement with that scummy cult.

He's got the entire cult behind him so if anyone decided to kick his ass they'd be set upon by his goons. I can well believe he was a manipulative little shit who carefully worked his way to the top before anybody else knew what was happening. Also, if you read some of the accounts of the people he's attacked they're always easy targets, or they've been held in one of the group prisons for months on end, where they're worn down by lack of food, sleep and are surrounded by guards. He also likes to play mind games with detainees, making them clean toilets with toothbrushes, write confessions over and over etc.

r173, real. I think Geffen made him get braces and bonding afterward.

He was really hot in that contract killer movie Collateral from 2004 where he played the villain... with grey hair.

R177 I can only assume you're talking about the cabbage.

That's right, r180. I was responding to the comment from r176.

I just don't see him as gay.

he loves his porn stars but

shhhhh

Would Tammy be a top, bottom or versatile?

I think Tammy is top

Tammy topped Newman

Tammy wanted to be the next Mrs Newman. However, Paul ended things suddenly after the filming of their movie ended and it broke poor little Tammy's heart.

I read in a book by one of the people who escaped the cult that MissCabbage hit the author who was so shocked he fell backwards. As he got up he approached Misscabbage with the intention of punching him back. Misscabbage freaked out that someone would do that and took off.

So I guess it's because everyone is too beaten down and brainwashed to fight back and the little shit just gets more confident each time. Not surprising.

hasn't had a date much less a relationship in years since the holmes divorce? and masturbation is a BIG NO NO on the 1.1. scale of perversion in this cult.. so what does he do then? personally i think he has sex and his partners are scientologists themselves, now whether they are female or male is the question! also if his master, i mean his leader, i mean his bestest buddy in the whole wide world, the man he "worships like a god" is his pimp in this or allows it or doesn't know and would disapprove and make fun of him and belittle him to his face if he knew is another question?! that is if the two themselves aren't lovers of course....

supposedly everyone "in the know" from the cult who are the biggest critics and most outspoken against it, says cruise is straight, but yet at the same time, there ARE "embarrassing" stuff about his sex life in those audits, enough to where i read miscavige when reading the transcripts and/or watching the secretly hidden video taken of cruise among his inner circle (according to vanity fair magazine article and former cultie tom devocht) would "roll his eyes" and say outloud "geez, can you believe it?!" and before she went missing banished wife shelly would "blush" and say outloud "that's gross!"...

guess ole cruise is into something kinky fetish?

This is going to sound cray cray, but from a very reliable source, who had a solid position within Columbia Pictures for years and was “in” within the industry, always said Tammy is both “straight” AND a bottom, but mostly is just incredibly micromanaging and deeply deeply concerned about his image.

Scientologists are such fucking loons they make Mormons look (almost) normal.

#191? how can anyone be "straight" and a "bottom" UNLESS that bottoming means with a woman and her actions and/or with a toy? this would explain i guess he's not gay or even bisexual, but it IS his fetish that has come up in the audits that miscavige and his banished wife love to ridicule him and comment on behind his back..

More about the Cruise/Newman affair please!

cruise/newman.. well we KNOW for sure they became fast friends on the set and for the rest of newman's life.. beyond that? rumor and gossip with NO proof i guess... sad thing is that instead of newman being his mentor and modeling his life after him, cruise instead models himself and his life after a p.o.s. illegal immoral lying scumbag sociopath con artist leader of a abusive cult.. newman is rolling over in his grave BIG TIME! and cruise doesn't see this???!!?!?!

i remember someone who worked in an agency posted on DL that they were told to wear a specific color when TC was coming in for a meeting, they were told days ahead but nobody did it and TC came in and tsk tsk the people. that color ( i can't remember which) was supposed to be a power color or a color that made you more productive or something. he wasn't upset, just made some comments.

sounds like a control freak.

I think Cruise just didn’t realise what he was getting himself into when he got involved with the clams. It was the same deal with Travolta, there’s been rumours for years that when JT tried to distance himself from the cult in the late ‘70s they threatened to out him as gay.

I remember reading that when Cruise reached the level where you’re considered cleared he freaked out after reading all that bullshit about Xenu and the aliens. This was supposed to have happened in the mid-ninties and he apparently wanted to leave Scientology completely. David Miscavige however wasn’t having any of it and made sure Tammy was surrounded by clams 24/7. That’s why all Tammy’s staff and helpers are Scientologists, Miscavige uses them to spy on Cruise and draw him deeper into the cult.

Paul Newman banged him like a drum during the Color of Money. Tom was in love and thought that Paul loved him back. Paul just needed some ass to nest his cock in. After the film Newman never acknowledged him again. SAD

#196.. and cruise doesn't get this? "how great my religion is, they are providing me, staffing like minded scientologists in my homes! if he is THAT stupid that he doesn't realize they are spying on him and their loyalty is 100% to miscavige, then he cruise is TOO stupid to be walking the streets much less out and about in the world and on a film set! NEVER MIND, how morally bankrupt does a person have to be to think that their "religion" or ANY RELIGION/CHURCH/FAITH doing (and other royally over the top obviously wrong butt kissing they have done for him) this is not only normal, not only okay but DESERVED!!....

THE GREATEST STORY NEVER FULL TOLD OR EXPLAINED i how cruise went from "what the fuck is this science fiction bullshit! when he found out about xenu at OT level three and telling miscavige to fuck off and leave him alone, goes off with kidman for nearly 10 years, and barely any communication besides a christmas card at best, to for whatever reason cruise/kidman divorce and nutjob former number #2 man marty rathbun under orders by miscavige to make sure they get him back (and were underminding the marriage towards the end already) in no matter what... and cruise does a COMPLETE 180 DEGREE TURN AND BECOMES SUPER ZEALOT! willing to risk marriages (kidman and holmes), career, youngest daughter, reputation for miscavige and scientology!

the story of they did alot of auditing on him and that's how he got back in? how does alot of auditing (interviewing and interrogating him with questions) makes him change his mind 180 degrees completely? something is missing and doesn't make sense!...

i read allegedly that rathbun doing these countless audits of cruise was told to end each session that went well with a "don't thank me tom, thank david!' after literally each session trying to drum into cruise's brain that EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING GOOD in his life was because of scientology and more importantly because of david miscavige! (uh, wouldn't a person with half a brain see what was happening with this "spiel" over and over again after each audit?) . then when rathbun told miscavige that he thinks his mission is done and cruise is back in the fold, allegedLy miscavige told rathbun "no, he won't be back in until he calls me and tells me personally he's back in and also ask for my forgiveness".. and then miscavige told rathbun " i don't want you to tell tom to call me either or give him my phone number, I WANT TOM TO WANT TO CALL ME ON HIS OWN AND ASK YOU FOR MY NUMBER! THEN and only then will he be completely 100% back in! and eventually this is indeed EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED!... TALK ABOUT A PERVERSE PERVY POWER TRIP AT THE VERY LEAST!...

ANYWAY, something else had to happen besides alot of auditing and subtle brainwashing during these audits for cruise to become what he has become! THE FULL STORY of what went on is not being told!

#197.. sorry, that's not true, they remained great friends and even racing buddies far after that movie was done.. newman visited him on the set of days of thunder for example and cruise also wrote a tribute that was published to newman after newman's death...

I’ve always wondered how bad is his dyslexia? By some accounts he can barely read. That must made it difficult to read scripts especially in his early career.

#200.. that's a whole another can of worms his "dyslexia" and why is it a "can of worms"?? because the story itself has changed so much over the years, that i don't think cruise can keep it straight anymore... over the years it's been: he had dyslexia and scientology only scientology cured it, he had dyslexia and scientology didn't cure him of it, but gave him the tools to deal with it (of course the national association of dyslexia says that any scientology tools are either hogwash or stolen practices from existing methods), he never had dyslexia but had another learning disability, to he he was misdiagnosed and schools wanted him on medication possibly for ADD? and on and on.. in the best known biography of cruise by andrew morton, he interviewed many teachers, former classmates and girlfriends, yes girlfriends and other friends of his growing up and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SAYS HE WAS ONLY A SLOW LEARNER AND BELOW AVERAGE STUDENT, BUT WITH NO REAL DISABILITY?! ....so whose lying?

course cruise actually stated that the schools he went to did not have dictionaries in the class room and no one ever told him how to use one? on what planet does a school classroom whether grade school or high school not have any dictionaries? and since when does ANYONE need to be shown how to use one???

course just like giving scientology 100% credit for his life and "he wouldn't be where he is today without it !" (minus 3 wives of course) and never mind the fact he was a global superstar with TOP GUN BEFORE HE EVER HEARD OF SCIENTOLOGY! but like his career, his dyslexia story has to coincide with the scientology script! the question is does he truly believe this or he's doing what he's told and told to say?..

R198: you’re wrong. Miscavige never let Cruise off the hook. It might have appeared that Tammy cooled it on his involvement with the clams but my understanding is that Miscavige simply stepped up his efforts to win Tom back into the Church. That’s why you got Cruise and Kidman getting their own specially outfitted house at the Scientology base. Moreover, Miscavige had his people bending over backwards to humour every single whim of both Tom and Nicole during their relationship. Whether he was responsible for breaking up their marriage is hard to say, however I always thought that Cruise simply got tired of being with Kidman and Miscavige seized the opportunity and ran with it.

It is true though that he became super dedicated to the church after his breakup with Nicole Kidman. That’s when Miscavige really started to exert increasing influence on Cruise and even arranging that fake audition for his next girlfriend.

#202..there is NO DOUBT that cruise DID put scientology and miscavige on the back burner for years, once nicole stopped doing scientology herself... yes, at first miscavige kissed both their asses but that was for a short time.. ALL researched by andrew morton AND verified by former culties..

[quote]Scientologists are such fucking loons they make Mormons look (almost) normal.

Mimi Rogers was the reason he joined Scientology in the first place. When's the last time anyone heard about her?

i remember reading in some magazine donkey years ago that she said Tom was impotent.

A friend who worked for the agency that repped Tammy when he was starting out said he was always referred to as "Little Tommy Cruise" and not just because of his height.

Insecurity?

now there is a story to be told.. that is mimi roger's! even back then cruise sided with his "religion" over his own wife/wives!! she got him involved although I do think it was on purpose, both for her career and her standing in the cult... then when it started going bad for her in 2 ways, her father was a pain in the ass causing too much trouble being too outspoken on mismanagement and how things were being run and the cult realizing we got THEE tom cruise, newest global superstar, what do we need her for anymore, she left it along with her father...

surely the cult was part if not the main reason they split up, but here's the thing: your wife gets you into this little secretive self help religion in the first place, you see how they started treating her and her father, you break up for whatever reasons, she and her father leave it and not only do you allow your new religion to have a say so or even THINK THEY HAVE a say so in your marriage, when the marriage ends, you meaning cruise stays in? how does that work? the woman your former wife that got you into this "thing" leaves it and along with her father, but you, cruise, stay in it? HUH and DOUBLE HUH!..

The Mimi Rogers thing was weird. He was hot as hell and in his early 20s, she was haggy-looking even then, and looked 10 years or more older than him. Strange relationship.

He obviously has mommy issues. not just daddy issues. He grew up with sisters, were they all older? Maybe that's where his "type" came from.

Yes he's the youngest, with three older sisters.

The clams have arrived

#211 "the clams have arrived"? ... how so?...

David Miscavige was a runt who crew up near Philly, he was a simple con man who stumbled into shit, and the only reason he hit the heights he’s hit is because Clams are loons, like our dear Tammy C.

I think the main reason for the close relationship between Miscavige and Cruise is the fact that Tammy has finally found someone who is shorter than himself.

Scientologists believe being gay is a flaw which they can correct. Quite possible that they corrected Tammy Marie.

I hope I live long enough to read the book that Suri will inevitably write.

She’s estranged from her father, r216. He barely visits his own kid and Katie Holmes keeps her away from all the Scientology craziness. I’d be more interested if Shelly Miscavige wrote a book.

How about Nicole and Katie team up for a book, call it The Ex-Wives Confession

I've posted this before, but I sold Mimi a condo while she was dating Tom Selleck. She was the hardest woman I've ever met. She literally would do anything to become a star.

She ended up with a converted apartment to condo in Sherman Oaks (to be near her buddy Kirstie Alley), but showing her places was agony. This bathroom is too small- Tom couldn't fit in here, blah-blah.

Taking the final paperwork to where she was filming a TV movie was sweet relief. And I never kept in touch, something I rarely do. Don't need the money that badly.

When did Mimi Rogers get involved in Scientology?

R207, please take a remedial grammar course. Your post is difficult to read riddled with so many mistakes.

He's either asexual or gay. Both fit comfortably with his plan in youth to become a priest. Either he was okay with never having sex because he's not interested in sex, or he's a deeply self-loathing homosexualist.

He probably got buttfucked by a Priest when he was a kid. He was therefore very experienced when he reached Hollywood as his butt cherry had already been taken.

I'm sure Tom got diddled by priests.

Still no public wife or girlfriend, I see!

I guess the Katie Holmes debacle cured him of those embarrassing public showmances.

#221, i type as i think, didn't know grammar was needed on a post? i could be snarky but i won't.

#222, the whole he wanted to be a priest story has been overblown, he went to a seminary grade school for 1 year because the tuition was free if he became a boarder as the family minus the father were dirt poor. he lasted only 1 year there. In regard to sex, he had plenty of it as former girlfriends from high school attested to in the andrew morton biography, supposedly he screwed anything that moved for quite a time.. scientology neutered him it seems.

R220 Mimi’s father was one.

Because if you can't just laugh it off youre most likely takingg the dick.

R225: He couldn’t even manage a proper bearding arrangement. The amount of actors in the closet who do it all the time and he has to arrange an audition with his Scientology pals.

R207: The clams forced Mimi Rogers to give Cruise an uncontested divorce. She walked away from the relationship and gave him no real trouble. That made Tammy happy and for a time kept him well in with the Church.

I always love the Tom Cruise threads. There’s been a zillion of them and I get sucked in every time. The same stories, speculations and height discussions are had - but love them all

Can’t wait for a tell all book on him at some point.

#230: and that right there is messed up! instead of siding with your wife, instead of telling your new "religion" to "F" off it's none of their business, will work it out ourselves, he allowed them to take care of his divorce! what kind of man does this? and allegedly they went thru the cult's "marriage counseling" courses and what not! NEWSFLASH TOM CRUISE! IT DIDN'T WORK OBVIOUSLY, SO your "religion' is full of crap FROM THE GET GO!.... and he had to know how the cult was treating not just mimi but her father, his father in law and oh well? really? and the fact that she, the one who got him into this thing in the first place, left it years and years ago and yet he stayed in and is STILL IN? really? bizarre!

The founder of the cult, L. Ron, was gay, which explains why it's always been focused on homosexuality as a problem. During the 70s and 80s, it was discretely marketed among 'receptive' celebs in Hollywood as having 'the cure' to being gay, which is how Cruise, Travolta, Will Smith and others were drawn into its web. One of the ways the cult maintained its hold on them was by secretly supplying them with male sex partners in order to 'manage' them, somewhat the same way methadone was administered to heroin addicts in order to keep them manageable. (No, I am not comparing homosexuality with heroin addiction, but it's worth noting that Scientologists regard it somewhat that way.) One of the reasons we never really hear from men who've had Tom is that the stable of male partners are recruited from within the Sea Organization, and more tightly controlled than probably any other group in the cult - they never interact with the outside world. One day it'll break, and become the weirdest, most fucked-up story ever, far beyond even the most lurid of Catholic abuse stories. The day it does will probably see the end of Tom, assuming he's still alive by that point.

#233 the founder hubbard was gay? i knew he was a pathological liar in every aspect of life and a con artist beyond measure, but he was married 3 times and even a bigamist.. i have no doubt he was into sex kink and power trips, but gay? perhaps he was closeted too, gosh knows he came across as one huge flamboyant fop!

in regards to cruise, well there was that one guy ken danells, who was very handsome was his "production assistant' for magnolia and mission impossible 2, who surprise surprise was and still is a scientologist and who was the former husband of catherine bell, both a scientologist and a lesbian, (hence the divorce).. interesting that cruise would just happen to have a gorgeous man and a fellow cultie as his production assistant, although since then he has EXCLUSIVELY USED AS HIS ASSISTANT HIS SISTER CASS for every filim...JUST SAYING..

YOUR SURMISE could be true, i mean the idea that cruise has not only not had a relationship, not a date, but not sex since the holmes divorce what 6 years ago??... then again, if scientology and miscavige is his pimp, then that goes against everything the cult is suppose to stand for and shame its' members for being and doing?.. so miscavige breaks their gay is bad rule for cruise and supplies cruise with sex, as long as cruise does what he wants? one would think cruise would be like "wait, i thought being gay was wrong in this religion and you have the cure for it and yet your supplying me with men?" so which is it one would think cruise would think?!...

and yet, everyone who has known cruise in the cult, who audited him, who have supervised the audits and so on and who have investigated this cult, all say that cruise is straight and there is nothing "gay" in his audits? and yes, andrew morton the biographer tracked down his girlfriends who stated that yes he had sex with them...

so geez, what to believe??! ...someday it will all come out (no pun intended) i just hope it does while cruise is still alive, I HATE HATE tell all books about a celebrity AFTER their dead and can no longer defend themselves! the first "book" though will be suri's when she hits 18! yikes!

[quote]the founder hubbard was gay?

R234, Google it. There's considerably more than a trace. (I'm offering just one link. Does Dataounge formatting allow multiple urls?) [quote]so miscavige breaks their gay is bad rule for cruise and supplies cruise with sex, as long as cruise does what he wants? one would think cruise would be like "wait, i thought being gay was wrong in this religion and you have the cure for it and yet your supplying me with men?" so which is it one would think cruise would think?!...

You do know that people frequently behave in ways totally incongruous with the principles they outwardly profess, right? Especially the religious, for whom consistency is not a priority, and cognitive dissonance is an art. Professional homophobes privately indulge in what they publicly condemn (look no farther than Cardinal Spellman, or Ted Haggard). This isn't difficult to understand. [quote]and yet, everyone who has known cruise in the cult, who audited him, who have supervised the audits and so on and who have investigated this cult, all say that cruise is straight and there is nothing "gay" in his audits? and yes, andrew morton the biographer tracked down his girlfriends who stated that yes he had sex with them...

Nobody ever lies? Especially people under the thrall of a notoriously controlling religious cult that threatens dissenters, and has a well-deserved reputation for ruining their lives?

As you can see, I'm still having difficulty with formatting; it appears there's lots I still don't know.

Tom could barely have sex with Mimi. I doubt he turned into a horndog with any of his other wives or girlfriends.

Did L Ron Hubbard look creepy AF or what?

Oh youre crazy R235.

Wait...is that a cravat I see??

Cruise had sex with Mimi. He had to really focus though. Wanted to b priest. Why would anyone say asexual when he is an obvious closet case.

I heard from those who know him that he loves wearing womens' high heels. WTF ?

If one was raped by a priest, would one really want to become a priest?

He likes to wear heels. coz he's tiny. I don't know what they are called but they are regular shoes made to look normal but it makes you taller.

Travolta was cured.

#235: sure people lie, but the people who are saying cruise is straight and nothing in his audits pertaining to anything gay, are the people who would know who left the cult and speaking out against it, like rathbun, devocht, brousseau, rinder and others, who HATE miscavige and scientology and in a way cruise! if they had the goods on cruise, they would have spilled the beans by now or not said anything either way...

I DO THINK THOUGH there is something that cruise does NOT want the world to know... in a documentary, claire headley, who escaped the cult with her husband mark, who just happened to be the first person cruise himself ever audited years and years ago and who was the former case supervisor of cruise to rathbun's auditor (of cruise) stated when asked by the interviewer "are there things in tom cruise's audits that he would not want the world to know?" and she replied 'absolutely"... As i posted previously according to eyewitness tom devocht who says he was there when late at night miscavige and before she was banished (for 12 years and counting!) wife shelly and his inner circle would drink scotch as miscavige outloud read the audits of cruise giving a running commentary of it all and according to VANITY FAIR magazine that devocht was quoted as saying "miscavige would roll his eyes and say outloud "geez, can you believe it?!" and shelly would "blush" and say outloud "that's gross"..... who knows what the information is? sounds like cruise has a sex fetish or something majorly embarrassing?!..

course cruise could have 1 brain cell and lied well enough in his audits as well... (never mind,what monumental moron would one have to be to be a super famous person whose entire life is reputation and tell anyone including their "religion" anything and everything in the first damn place! especially anything that could ruin them?! duh and double duh!)...

[quote] Travolta was cured.

That's one way to prepare a ham.

R244 has wandered in after googling Tom Cruise. Definitely not a regular DL'er.

#246: #244 "has wandered in after googling tom cruise" ? who knew having and providing information was a bad thing on a topic! newsflash: used to be HUGE cruise fan, read everything i could about him over the years and thought he was "good guy"... NOW? after reading and watching anything and everything about scientology and his MORE then involvement in this insidious evil thing, i'm MAJORLY against him and boycott him big time! trust me, i'm NOT a clam! i pray for the day this abusive cult,it's leader and the public face of it ,cruise, get their reckoning! as they deserve to!..

R247 "You instantly reveal your skill as a writer. Bad dialogue signals the work of an amateur who has failed to grasp the mechanics of speech. It's alright , brilliant writing doesn’t happen overnight. In the meantime please move your hand away from the fuck-en mouse.

Maybe he has dyslexia.

His dad tried to rape him. he implied that in an interview

He was raised Catholic; are you surprised?

#248: just EXACTLY what is your problem? why not (if your going to reply to my posts as something you just HAVE to do?!) see what i say and NOT HOW i say it. just who are you again? acting like a snarky 12 year old says more about you then me.

Typing like a snarky 12-year-old is unbecoming of an adult.

#253, oh, i get it, the original 'bully" gets called out for being a bully and the person who calls him out for being so, is the REAL bully not the original one mindset!

R254 = William Zabka

Labelling gays asexuals is what Christianity has done in the last 500 years. Every time there's a genius or someone who stands out with an obvious gay life, there's some silly attempt to desexualize the person so they won't have to address reality.

Tom has been spotted at bathhouses and massage parlours in Europe. He's dated at least two lesbians who had kids through surrogacy, because obviously if you are a pussy grabber you have to use a surrogate to penetrate your "wife".

R244 have you watched HBO's Going Clear? Rinder implies very blatantly he knows a lot about Cruise's personal life but can't go on details (presumedly because he would be sued and lose money on a libel slander case).

The most likely scenario is that he's still with the cult because they have the dirt on his sexuality like Travolta (who was cured, remember the Miami artist who sued him when the cult claimed he was portrayed as a cure example?).

Only an idiot would think Travolta was cured, r257. That case always seemed strange to me.

#256: tom has been spotted at bathhouses and massage parlors in europe? and NOT a single shred of proof of any kind? no one telling, no one taking photos or audio or film secret or otherwise? even though they would make HUGE HUGE bucks to do so? i'm not defending the creep, i'm just saying, this is "news" to me the bathhouse and massage parlors in "europe" story. ALSO, what 2 lesbians did he "date" that has surrogacy kids?

#257: yeah, i watched going clear ( i recorded it) as i have done so with leah remini's aftermath show, as i have read every book i can about this insidious evil scientology thing, as i'm a daily visitor to the underground bunker, www.tonyortega.org....

more then a few people "know" everything about cruise, from miscavige and banished wife, to claire headley and her husband mark (claire being the course supervisor to cruise and her husband mark being the first person cruise ever himself audited), to marty rathbun (his main auditor for a few years especially around and after the kidman divorce), tom devocht, the man who stated he was there with miscavige and wife would discuss outloud the cruise audits and information and so on...

the only thing that anyone has stated more revealing was devocht saying "he probably has alot of embarrassing stuff and but who also said in a interview "that he heard some stuff, but NO, i don't think tom cruise is gay" and claire headley when asked point blank if he, cruise, had things he wouldn't want the world to know and she replied "absolutely". and marty rathbun his main auditor for years stated "cruise is straight" if anyone would know it would be these people! course cruise could be the biggest liar even in his audits, even to his "beautiful religion"..

.I DO BELIEVE there IS something there in the audits perhaps even sexual that he doesn't want the world to know, nothing else explains why he is STILL STILL in 2018 with this "self help" religion? a huge handsome movie star needs "self help" for 30 years and counting!? was a superstar before HE EVER EVEN HEARD of scientology! and he thinks getting DOCUMENTED SO royally butt kissed by his "religion" (or any religion/church/faith!) is not only normal and okay but even DESERVED? RIGHT THERE shows him to be at the very least a morally bankrupt person! and of course being a dead beat father too!

I don't know about Cruise but I'm sure Kidman is a lesbian and is now married to closeted Keith Urban and she used surrogate and faked her first pregnancy

Same for Holmes she used surrogate and faked pregnancy and now she's bearding for Jamie Foxx lol !

It's all on internet just use google and by looking at the pics you can see that Kidman and Holmes were never pregnant and used fake baby bump

Jolie did the same thing at least for the twins and I believe Pitt and Jolie are both gay.

also there was Penelope Cruz who was in relationship with Cruise in 2001 - 2004 she's also a lesbian and professional beard

r260 Kidman Lesbian ROFL.. ahahhahahahahhaahhah