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Lena Waithe is Boss on Cover of Vanity Fair

VF: IIf you haven’t heard of Lena Waithe, check yourself for a pulse. She is disrupting the hell out of Hollywood. As the first black woman to nail an Emmy Award for Outstanding Writing for a Comedy Series, Lena—along with a crew of other black creatives—is sending a message to the world that Black Brilliance has arrived in Hollywood and has not come to play.

Lena and I sit down to dinner for the first time, at the Four Seasons in Beverly Hills. Having spent the past week in Utah for the Sundance Film Festival, both of us are beyond happy to be rid of our snow boots and winter coats. And because I’ve arrived at the restaurant a few minutes before Lena, I’ve had time to do what many of us do when we walk into spaces like this—count the Blacks. Now that Lena has joined me, there are two of us.

In this moment the shine is on Lena. She is all dapper and grace as she enters. Broad-shouldered and fast-walking, she flashes a smile at our hostess and emphasizes her please-and-thank-yous with our waitress. When she sits down across from me, she immediately removes her cap, and I smile, having grown up watching the boys and men around me get chastised for not removing their hats fast enough, for attempting to wear hats at the table, for even considering walking into someone else’s home or a restaurant with their heads covered. Lena’s locks are well oiled and tightly twisted, draping down past her shoulders—a femme contrast to the shaved sides of her head.

I begin to see that this is who Lena is: a woman coming at the world from many different places, quick-moving and fast-talking yet soft-spoken and thoughtful, cursing a mile a minute while bringing a new vibrancy to language. Relaxed yet ready. On the butch side of queer but with delicate edges. Star power with kindness. And it’s working.

“Here’s the irony of it all,” she says after the conversation gets going. “I don’t need an Emmy to tell me to go to work. I’ve been working. I’ve been writing, I’ve been developing, I’ve been putting pieces together and I’m bullets, you know what I’m saying?”

I do. On the critically acclaimed Netflix series Master of None, for which she won her Emmy, Lena, 33, also plays the role of Denise, a young lesbian and close friend of Aziz Ansari’s character, Dev. While Denise was originally written for a straight woman, who would eventually become a love interest of Dev’s, Waithe’s character has added a depth, humor, and black-girl queerness new to the screen. She’s wry, lovely, and lovable. And while Lena’s Denise seems to be handpicked from Lena’s life story, Waithe brings to this character something different. Denise is more reserved than Lena. It’s not so much an innocence but angles smoothed over, the product of a quieter past. Many of the people in my own queer world would have blinked past the show had it not been for Waithe’s character. For so many of us who have not seen an out Black lesbian front and center this way, her arrival is a small, long-awaited revelation. Her arrival is our arrival.

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by Anonymousreply 214January 3, 2020 9:10 PM

She seems to be more pro black than pro lesbian/gay so therefore she will be of very little help to the Gay Community.

Plus, I've never heard of her. Next!

by Anonymousreply 1March 22, 2018 7:13 PM

[quote]In this moment the shine is on Lena.

The writer seems to think the light is coming out of both their asses.

by Anonymousreply 2March 22, 2018 7:20 PM

R1, almost all black gay/bi folks, are Black first. And that’s cool.

by Anonymousreply 3March 22, 2018 7:20 PM

R3 No it's not because the Gay Community needs more help at the present time. So no, it's not cool. It's tiresome and boring.

by Anonymousreply 4March 22, 2018 7:23 PM

[quote]count the Blacks

“The Blacks”? And this writer is supposed to be black?

by Anonymousreply 5March 22, 2018 7:26 PM

The CHI is an excellent series, appealing to both races. It's just good tv. So many good characters and stories.

by Anonymousreply 6March 22, 2018 7:29 PM

Cute couple!

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by Anonymousreply 7March 22, 2018 7:34 PM

What an obnoxious first paragraph in that article.

The rest of it may be bad, too, but I'll never know.

by Anonymousreply 8March 22, 2018 7:53 PM

r8 Also, doesn't starting your piece with:

[quote]If you haven’t heard of Lena Waithe, check yourself for a pulse.

Kind of suggest that she knows most people haven't heard of Lena Waithe?

by Anonymousreply 9March 22, 2018 7:59 PM

Thank you, r8/r9. I also intended to point out this article's shabby prose, especially the first paragraph. Remember when Vanity Fair was considered a repository for good writing?

I'm all for stronger institutional media coverage of diversity in Hollywood. But hire some good writers to do it!

by Anonymousreply 10March 22, 2018 8:03 PM

R1 there's nothing wrong with being pro black. In this world you have to be. Everything is not about the LGBT community. Some people put strong value on their ethnic group and embrace who they are. And that's completely fine. to each their own.

by Anonymousreply 11March 22, 2018 8:10 PM

Except when one “identity” conflicts with another. Sort of undermines the whole intersectionality school of thought though (a theory introduced by black lesbians scholars)

by Anonymousreply 12March 22, 2018 8:18 PM

On this planet one cannot be BOTH pro-Black AND LGBTQ?!? GTFOH with that myopic noise!

by Anonymousreply 13March 22, 2018 8:19 PM

Yawn.

by Anonymousreply 14March 22, 2018 8:22 PM

Most gay and bi people don’t place their sexuality as their top identity.

by Anonymousreply 15March 22, 2018 9:19 PM

Exactly R15 Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 16March 22, 2018 9:22 PM

[R15], I'm witcha.

by Anonymousreply 17March 22, 2018 9:25 PM

Tl; dr

Why is she so mega?

I only know her as an actress on the Aziz Ansari .Show. She played a brusque, butch lesbian very effectively.

by Anonymousreply 18March 22, 2018 9:25 PM

More Conde Nast faux-intersectionality. Like it's going to sell magazines or something.

by Anonymousreply 19March 22, 2018 9:45 PM

[quote] VF: IIf you haven’t heard of Lena Waithe, check yourself for a pulse.

Who?

by Anonymousreply 20March 22, 2018 9:47 PM

Vanity Fair is doomed. No one buys it to have their SJW beliefs reinforced--people read it to read puff pieces about celebrities people have actually heard of and to hear gossipy stories about old money and bad behavior.

by Anonymousreply 21March 22, 2018 9:49 PM

Who hired this woman Radhika jones to take over the magazine? was it Anna Wintour, as the artistic director of CondéNast, or the new president?

I really can't imagine who would buy this magazine now. It used to cater to older gay men who had a lot of money to spend and wanted gossip and glamour; but they are the people who most hate "wokeness" in the whole world, and they will hate this approach.

by Anonymousreply 22March 22, 2018 9:54 PM

Question: who walks into a room, and the first thing they think to do is “count the Blacks”??

Answer: a Racist.

Also... Who??

by Anonymousreply 23March 22, 2018 9:57 PM

Everything is not about the "WASP" there a dying bread anyways. The world is changing. Embrace it they've had their day already.

by Anonymousreply 24March 22, 2018 9:59 PM

Exactly r21. VF used to be about glamour, movie stars, old Hollywood, the Kennedy's, gossip about the rich and well written real crime stories. Going the SJW route will kill the magazine. It was never the same after Christopher Hitchens and Dominick Dunne died anyway.

by Anonymousreply 25March 22, 2018 10:02 PM

R23 white people don't have to think to do that. Because you're all over represented everywhere that matters. It's something subconsciously black do. Remember, everyone wants to see themselves first. Just as whites do. It's a comfort thing.

by Anonymousreply 26March 22, 2018 10:03 PM

[quote] Everything is not about the "WASP" there a dying bread anyways.

Here a dying bread, there a dying bread...

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by Anonymousreply 27March 22, 2018 10:03 PM

I wanted a pb&j earlier so I got the Jif and the Smuckers all ready to spread, but all I had was some moldy ass white dude.

by Anonymousreply 28March 22, 2018 10:03 PM

R25 y'all still have town and country. So all isn't lost yet.

by Anonymousreply 29March 22, 2018 10:04 PM

Seriously, is the woman who wrote this actually a writer? It's dreadful.

[quote]As the first black woman to nail an Emmy Award

NAIL an Emmy Award!?

by Anonymousreply 30March 22, 2018 10:07 PM

Whoops, I meant breed.

by Anonymousreply 31March 22, 2018 10:07 PM

She fucked an Emmy Award? That's gotta hurt. The globe I can see, but those wings!

by Anonymousreply 32March 22, 2018 10:15 PM

The writer is a very respected children’s and YA author. I’m surprised how amateur it reads as Woodson is otherwise a talented writer. Blame it on the editor for not cleaning it up.

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by Anonymousreply 33March 22, 2018 10:19 PM

I would buy the old Vanity Fair. Not this junk.

Are there any good magazines left, anywhere? The New Yorker is getting stupid, too.

by Anonymousreply 34March 22, 2018 10:34 PM

Ugh!

by Anonymousreply 35March 22, 2018 10:35 PM

Goofus and Gallant are still doing their thing in each issue of Highlights magazine.

by Anonymousreply 36March 22, 2018 10:52 PM

Amen r24

by Anonymousreply 37March 22, 2018 11:10 PM

I have a pulse but I don’t know who this actress is.

That’s a really obnoxious way to start an article. No, I don’t watch the streaming service series. I’ve heard of it, but all I know about it is Aziz Ansari.

Apparently I should be ashamed that I’m not more WOKE?

by Anonymousreply 38March 22, 2018 11:21 PM

The writer:

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by Anonymousreply 39March 22, 2018 11:21 PM

Maybe we should call her "Green Gum"

by Anonymousreply 40March 22, 2018 11:45 PM

That poor woman was hit by the Ugly Stick. Yuk! Vanity Fair wants to sell magazines not drive people away.

by Anonymousreply 41March 22, 2018 11:53 PM

R41 Why not just put a clown on the cover and be done with it.

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by Anonymousreply 42March 23, 2018 12:01 AM

I tried to warn everyone.

by Anonymousreply 43March 23, 2018 12:06 AM

This is quite a drastic change and I don't think Vanity Fair will survive.

by Anonymousreply 44March 23, 2018 12:14 AM

Now that VF has published its ridiculous, overpraising, obnoxiously written puff piece about her, Lena Waithe can surely go and find herself a job at Payless. The kiss of death never fails.

by Anonymousreply 45March 23, 2018 12:18 AM

I read the first few paragraphs of the article. I'm assuming the editor is also an illiterate.

by Anonymousreply 46March 23, 2018 12:28 AM

I know who she is! I do! Does that mean I have a pulse?

by Anonymousreply 47March 23, 2018 12:45 AM

Next, Rojo Caliente.

by Anonymousreply 48March 23, 2018 12:52 AM

I love that this piece is being praised to the skies and hailed as a game changer by...

...wait for it...

...Ava Duvernay.

[quote] "Dear @RadhikaJones, You're changing the game by centering this game-changer on the @VanityFair cover," director Ava DuVernay tweeted on Thursday. "You've done something big here. Something bold. I'm excited by you. And grateful for this powerful image of our sister warrior, the great @LenaWaithe. Who we hold so dear. Brava."

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by Anonymousreply 49March 23, 2018 12:58 AM

This cover decision is all downside. The number of hard core VF loyalists (who are already bereft over Graydon Carter hanging it up) who will immediately feel alienated by this odd choice, will in no way be made up by brand new newsstand buyers or even (ha!) subscribers. I totally appreciate Radhika going for something radically different than, say, yet another dead Kennedy or Marilyn cover. But if she did want to go this route- why not somoeone like Donald Glover with actual name recognition (but not oversaturated, debatable I know). He is killing it in tv, film, music and would still signal a new era without blowing the heads off the people who have made VF a juggernaut for so long. It’s a ballsy choice no doubt but the risks far outweigh any rewards.

by Anonymousreply 50March 23, 2018 2:11 AM

[quote] why not somoeone like Donald Glover with actual name recognition

Who???

by Anonymousreply 51March 23, 2018 2:32 AM

Getting a VF cover used to be "prestige", only A listers.

I remember reading back in the 90s that there were A listers lined up for months, sometimes years, to get their VF COVER. Huge stars like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt. I remember when Madonna decided she wanted to do another VF cover, this time to promote Evita and demanded that it be the November 1996 issuse, that she had the clout to knock Liv Tyler off the cover as VF editors scrambled to Madonna's demands and put her on the cover

Putting this woman on the cover is like putting the actress who played Nadine on Grace Under Fire on the cover in the 90s

What the fuck Vanity Fair?????

by Anonymousreply 52March 23, 2018 2:34 AM

"Ava du Vernay Please do go away Your resting bitch face makes us cringe Your (apparent) blatant racism makes us want to binge On all white tv shows from the 50s"

by Anonymousreply 53March 23, 2018 2:36 AM

Lena Waithe is awesome! Glad to see all the accolades and attention. She’s brilliant.

by Anonymousreply 54March 23, 2018 2:50 AM

It really sounds try-hard and phony. There are lots of magazines and websites for younger people that have this style of writing covered; Vanity Fair should stay in its lane.

by Anonymousreply 55March 23, 2018 2:54 AM

[quote]But if she did want to go this route- why not somoeone like Donald Glover with actual name recognition (but not oversaturated, debatable I know). He is killing it in tv, film, music and would still signal a new era without blowing the heads off the people who have made VF a juggernaut for so long.

I admit, I had to look him up. You forgot to say he's really handsome .

by Anonymousreply 56March 23, 2018 2:59 AM

[quote] Lena Waithe is awesome! Glad to see all the accolades and attention. She’s brilliant.

She's far from brilliant. Hyped, yes.

by Anonymousreply 57March 23, 2018 3:00 AM

HOw can anyone under 50 and not comatose not know who Donald Glover/Childish Gambino is?

by Anonymousreply 58March 23, 2018 3:02 AM

Carly Mallenbaum, USA TODAY 1 minute ago Vanity Fair has made waves with its covers before. But never has the reaction been so positive.

Read the glowing reactions at link below:

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by Anonymousreply 59March 23, 2018 3:11 AM

That magazine is so dead.

by Anonymousreply 60March 23, 2018 3:15 AM

And white people continue to show their true selves on this thread about a stupid vanity fair cover and story. So much for being so liberal and tolerant.

by Anonymousreply 61March 23, 2018 3:15 AM

VF always wants what is the “cool” thing in HW to be featured prominently so it doesn’t seem so old fashioned. Check out all my cover art!

by Anonymousreply 62March 23, 2018 3:19 AM

R71, it's not about tolerance or racism it's about the genre of a magazine being put to death by SJW political correctness. If they had put a glamorous AA actress on the cover no one would have thought twice about it because that is what Vanity Fair is known for.

I wonder how you would react if they put Martha Stewart on the cover of Ebony magazine.

by Anonymousreply 63March 23, 2018 3:24 AM

Good r63. VF realizes that old snooty white effete sensibility is dying with the quickness. They are wisely adapting to the reality of a hipper, more diverse cultural zeitgeist.

by Anonymousreply 64March 23, 2018 3:26 AM

R63 I really like Martha Stewart it really wouldn't bother me if she was on the cover of Ebony magazine. From what I've always seen if her. Is that she's always had a pretty good relationship with black America. She also has a show with snoop dog. So I could definitely see her and snoop on the cover together.

by Anonymousreply 65March 23, 2018 3:31 AM

I want to see Ruth Negga on the VF cover. I love her face. So expressive.

by Anonymousreply 66March 23, 2018 3:31 AM

Yes R64, I hear next month's edition of Popular Mechanics will feature RuPaul in full drag.

Sure R65, I'd love to see all hell break loose with the AA community when she appears on that elusive cover.

by Anonymousreply 67March 23, 2018 3:33 AM

At least Martha Stewart is a celebrity, R67.

by Anonymousreply 68March 23, 2018 3:34 AM

For those of you so upset about this vanity fair cover. There's another magazine, I believe it's an online magazine. It's called the "Rake" it's a mix of vogue, town and country, vanity fair, and Esquire. They cover everything the DL crowd loves. But it's geared towards men. And it's very diverse too. Go check it out and come back tell me what you think of it on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 69March 23, 2018 3:38 AM

Earlier article.

Better photo choices.

Nastier comments.

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by Anonymousreply 70March 23, 2018 3:45 AM

Whoa, this bitch is outing Tessa Thompson? Just because she's out does not mean she has the right to out someone else.

by Anonymousreply 71March 23, 2018 3:57 AM

Now see Janelle would have been a smarter choice.

A fashion spread on Janelle with Vanity Fair's aesthetic would have rocked.

by Anonymousreply 72March 23, 2018 4:13 AM

The new lady should rememebr what people want to see

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by Anonymousreply 73March 23, 2018 4:14 AM

R72, I agree, Janelle regularly wins the red carpet.

by Anonymousreply 74March 23, 2018 4:15 AM

She isn’t outting anyone. She is not messy like some of y’all.

by Anonymousreply 75March 23, 2018 12:53 PM

Did they ever put Viola Davis, or Shonda, or Angela Bassett on the cover? You know, great black beloved stars that people have actually heard of.

by Anonymousreply 76March 23, 2018 3:37 PM

Millennials and hipsters know who she is. They are the cool kids VF and other media are trying to attract, not old Out of touch white racists.

by Anonymousreply 77March 23, 2018 3:51 PM

No, R76.

As with the Marvel Comics example above, this is anti-capitalism. These assholes who commander these publishing enterprizes have an agenda which is directly opposed to what the masses would like and would pay money for.

These chief executives are always from money. They don't care and they have unlimited cushions to fall back on when their social experiments blow up.

I wasn't familiar with Jones, so I looked her up, and to no one's suprize, she's gone from Harvard to Columbia to the Moscow Times to the New York Times ... and now Vanity Fair.

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by Anonymousreply 78March 23, 2018 4:00 PM

[quote] and to no one's suprize,

Oh, [italic]dear.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 79March 23, 2018 4:03 PM

I pray that Vanity Fair does not go out of business.

Can you imagine even more unemployed copywriters like R79 with time on their hands?

by Anonymousreply 80March 23, 2018 4:11 PM

"Everything is not about the "WASP" there a dying bread anyways."

Thank God the smart people will soon take over.

by Anonymousreply 81March 23, 2018 4:13 PM

You're right, R50, Donald Glover would've made more sense -- but he's not useful for pandering to the latest wave of Girl Power going around (see every commercial on the air right now). The same wave that will fade again soon as it always has in the past. Because so many women quit their pursuits and have babies and bleat about how happy they are being mommies instead and I don't think that will ever change.

But, by all means, throw 'em a bone with a VF cover. Will be interesting to see if it sells at all. Not exactly their core audience on any front.

by Anonymousreply 82March 23, 2018 4:18 PM

Women drive 70% of consumer buying. Girl power ads are smart marketing.

by Anonymousreply 83March 23, 2018 4:27 PM

True though I doubt they'll be dying to copy any fashion from that particular cover. Homeless Chic.

by Anonymousreply 84March 23, 2018 4:34 PM

(P.S. Didn't Shonda Rhimes "change the game" a long time ago? This is so much hype).

by Anonymousreply 85March 23, 2018 4:34 PM

A Glover/Monáe or Glover/Letitia Wright cover would’ve been fantastic. The new season of Atlanta just started, he’s got Solo in May and Wright is coming off stealing the show in Black Panther, is also RPO, and will be back for Infinty Wars.

by Anonymousreply 86March 23, 2018 4:51 PM

hey, at least Donald Glover is cute. This bull dyke... well...

by Anonymousreply 87March 23, 2018 5:07 PM

My goodness all of this talk about race. It would be like if you received the latest edition of Town and Country and their feature story was about America's hippies with a friggin' hut on the cover and a pictorial of them milking goats in their overgrown yard and sleeping three to a cot.

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by Anonymousreply 88March 23, 2018 5:09 PM

[quote] Can you imagine even more unemployed copywriters like [R79] with time on their hands?

At least undereducated posters like r78 might learn how to spell then.

by Anonymousreply 89March 23, 2018 5:26 PM

Nobody wants to look at a fug on the cover of any magazine.

by Anonymousreply 90March 23, 2018 5:56 PM

Is she holding something in her mouth? Is that part of the appeal?

Do people smile anymore? Has that gone out of style?

by Anonymousreply 91March 23, 2018 6:00 PM

That article is sycophantic garbage. Apparently all black people are creative geniuses now and white people are mediocre.

by Anonymousreply 92March 23, 2018 6:02 PM

[quote]She seems to be more pro black than pro lesbian/gay so therefore she will be of very little help to the Gay Community.

Do you ever read Datalounge? The site where white is always right?

by Anonymousreply 93March 23, 2018 6:06 PM

I can’t s stand racist white gay men. So prissy and out of touch

by Anonymousreply 94March 23, 2018 6:33 PM

Don’t criticize a POC or you’re labeled a racist

Welcome to Datalounge

by Anonymousreply 95March 23, 2018 6:38 PM

And I suppose if one thinks putting this woman on the cover of "Vanity Fair" and writing this poorly written story about her is a bad idea, then ipso facto one must be a racist white gay man, hm r93?

by Anonymousreply 96March 23, 2018 6:40 PM

Oh shut the fuck up R96. The point is someone said she was black first and gay second. When it’s clear that so many of you are white first and gay second. Including you R96.

by Anonymousreply 97March 23, 2018 6:52 PM

[quote] When it’s clear that so many of you are white first and gay second. Including you [R96].

You know nothing about me, wacko at r97.

You think you do, but you do not.

by Anonymousreply 98March 23, 2018 6:58 PM

There is no rule that gay identity must be first in one’s personal hierarchy? Religion, race, gender, and geographic identity are all legitimately higher identities for most

by Anonymousreply 99March 23, 2018 7:01 PM

If this non-talent black dyke wasn’t a black dyke she’d be working the overnight shift at Walgreens, really, she’s a terrible actor, meh writer, CHI is shit, you fucking people would cheer on a hate crime if it was carried out by a trans negro.

by Anonymousreply 100March 23, 2018 7:04 PM

R100, you are the essence of the nasty white gay effeminate male.

by Anonymousreply 101March 23, 2018 7:05 PM

R100 has correctly summed up modern SJWs and their supporters on the left, in one paragraph.

by Anonymousreply 102March 23, 2018 7:09 PM

Good R101, go stick my gay nasty in your woke brown hole.

by Anonymousreply 103March 23, 2018 7:10 PM

Horrible cover photo, that’s one fug dug.

by Anonymousreply 104March 23, 2018 7:20 PM

Let's revisit this thread next year when Vanity Fair announces they are folding their print edition to focus their mission in the digital realm.

(Translation: We've lost so much money abandoning customers we can now only afford bloggers who work for next to nothing like HuffPost.)

by Anonymousreply 105March 23, 2018 7:21 PM

i only know her from Aziz Ansari's series: she's terrible as an actress (she plays basically herself, if she's really like that i' d rather cut my dick than spending time with her). But she wrote the Thanksgiving episode (which was all about her, BTW), and it wasn't bad.

by Anonymousreply 106March 23, 2018 7:36 PM

Step aside, Lens Dunham ...

There's a new unattractive writer/actress of minimal talent and maximum hype!

by Anonymousreply 107March 23, 2018 7:43 PM

COngrats Lena! 👊🏾👏🏿👍🏽💪🏽

by Anonymousreply 108March 23, 2018 7:51 PM

SO glad to see urban and people of color moving into the center of bi/gay/fluid public consciousness. So refreshing. Issa Rae’s upcoming series on bi black men should further the enlightenment.

by Anonymousreply 109March 23, 2018 7:54 PM

And THIS is a perfect example of SJWs burning down the world.

If you dare point out that this cover doesn’t make any sense and will alienate VF readers, you’re racist. It’s incongruous. It doesn’t make sense. It’s like putting a dog on the cover of Cat Fancy, Woody Allen on the cover of Sports Illustrated, etc.

It’s not because she’s a black lesbian. It’s because she’s ugly and butch and unknown. Janelle Monae or Lupita Nyong’o would have been great.

by Anonymousreply 110March 23, 2018 8:02 PM

[quote]You know nothing about me, wacko at [R97].

You are right, we know nothing about each other. However, you have shown yourself with your nonsense on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 111March 23, 2018 8:02 PM

[quote]There is no rule that gay identity must be first in one’s personal hierarchy? Religion, race, gender, and geographic identity are all legitimately higher identities for most

Who is this “most” you keep claiming— those who place sexuality and culture (as yes, there is a gay culture, history, creed, etc) as lower on the identity totem pole?

by Anonymousreply 112March 23, 2018 8:07 PM

Thankfully I appear to have already blocked OP so can't see their ridiculous black nationalist shit all down this thread.

Go take that hateful shit over somewhere else like Lipstick Alley.

by Anonymousreply 113March 23, 2018 8:18 PM

Even the typeset is putrid, VF waved the white flag with the hollow black “wunderkind”, what a dump.

by Anonymousreply 114March 23, 2018 9:16 PM

If you haven't heard of Lenny Thwaite [subs check I've spelt his name correct] then you should be ashamed of your poor selves! We last met at Sundance, where we were both being lavished with deserved praise for how excellent we both are. We meet again at the Four Seasons where we immediately count The Blacks. Just us, we note (we don't count the staff). Trailblazers once more!!! As a queer LGBTI+ person of color, Glen is changing the game, switching things up and moving the conversation forward . She [check this sub] is disrupting the hell out of the narrative of Hollywood cisgender homophobic biracial intersectional patriarchy [sub?] and showing this goddamn dirty town that Stupendousness Of Color is here and it means BUSINESS!!!!

by Anonymousreply 115March 23, 2018 9:32 PM

I don't understand the hate towards her. She's on the cover because of her accomplishments. Beauty is subjective. I don't find her attractive, but a lot of people probably wouldn't find me attractive.

by Anonymousreply 116March 23, 2018 9:46 PM

[quote] She's on the cover because of her accomplishments.

Which are what, exactly?

She's a second banana on a Netflix comedy and a comedy writer. Big deal.

by Anonymousreply 117March 23, 2018 10:01 PM

Comedy with a capital Crock!

by Anonymousreply 118March 23, 2018 10:02 PM

Humorless, imperious and unable to speak with clarity, the future of entertainment. Enjoy your talent apocalypse SJW teet tasters.

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by Anonymousreply 119March 23, 2018 10:06 PM

I love her attractive hairdo! A heartfelt salute to Kid from Kid 'n Play!

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by Anonymousreply 120March 23, 2018 10:19 PM

It all feels very Gretchen Mol. Or one can only hope.

by Anonymousreply 121March 23, 2018 10:27 PM

I never heard of her so I don't have a pulse. Thanks for implying I'm dead, VF. Real nice.

by Anonymousreply 122March 23, 2018 10:28 PM

For all the hype and yack, NETFLIX shows really don't count, do they.

by Anonymousreply 123March 23, 2018 10:30 PM

r99 gay identity is usually the highest in the hierarchy for the non self hating gays and lesbians.

by Anonymousreply 124March 23, 2018 10:36 PM

wow r119. Stephen has totally lost his edge and is a snore. sucking up to celebs like Jimmy Fallon.

by Anonymousreply 125March 23, 2018 10:41 PM

She’s a product of the white guilt in the writer’s rooms of most comedy projects of the last ten years, the precious handling of the non-funny “other”, forget wit and construction, as long as they don’t have a dick and are completely uninformed and highly opinionated they are given the keys to the castle. The public at large will not embrace this caustic lark, she’ll continue to be elevated until the box office vanishes. Master of None is already fraying at the edges, it is all very predictable, and inevitable.

by Anonymousreply 126March 23, 2018 11:27 PM

She’s no Rodney Allen Rippy!

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by Anonymousreply 127March 24, 2018 2:12 AM

This Vanity Fair cover of Lady Gaga is ridiculous/bizarre but at least people knew who she was.

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by Anonymousreply 128March 24, 2018 2:31 AM

R113 Bingo!! Hint, hint, hint...........

by Anonymousreply 129March 24, 2018 2:34 AM

Yes R129! The face the word “Boss” was used was all we needed to know, go slide down the lapsnacker pole OP!

by Anonymousreply 130March 24, 2018 2:37 AM

The face that folded Vanity Fair.

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by Anonymousreply 131March 24, 2018 2:38 AM

That dumb dyke can’t even WINK correctly!

by Anonymousreply 132March 24, 2018 2:54 AM

So the widespread belief that many white gay men are misogynistic and racist is true. No wonder peoples l despise them so.

by Anonymousreply 133March 24, 2018 3:02 AM

Peoples I despise you so too, yo

by Anonymousreply 134March 24, 2018 3:08 AM

She has a nice smile and nice teeth.

I wonder why they chose to show her scowling on the cover of their news and fashion magazine.

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by Anonymousreply 135March 24, 2018 3:11 AM

She is not a bad-looking woman at all. Too bad they photographed her squinting and styled her as though she had just finished cleaning her oven.

by Anonymousreply 136March 24, 2018 4:11 AM

[quote] Remember when Vanity Fair was considered a repository for good writing?

Um, NO. They've always done these shitty profiles that focus more on the writer's (usually breathless and self-impressed) experience of meeting the subject than on the subject's life and work.

by Anonymousreply 137March 24, 2018 4:40 AM

A butch black lesbian has always been.....a really tough sell.

by Anonymousreply 138March 24, 2018 4:47 AM

I adore Lena. Her master of none episode about her coming out was one of my highlights last year. And the chi is ace. I am all for her getting more power and I really like who she is. She is herself and agree with her politics too.

by Anonymousreply 139March 24, 2018 5:12 AM

This thread is one of the MARY-est I've seen in a long time. Yes, Vanity Fair and probably the entire magazine publishing industry are going to collapse because of ONE cover that some elderqueens on DL don't care for. (They may collapse, but it won't be because of a single cover choice. Or any cover choice, for that matter.)

by Anonymousreply 140March 24, 2018 5:20 AM

FFS R140, this issue is under the direction of the new editor Radhika Jones. The writing is amateurish and the choice of cover shows a possible change of direction for the magazine. It's not just one cover it's more likely the fact this magazine has fallen prey to the "fall in line or else" mentality of the SJW movement and Ms. Jones may be one of this fad movement's biggest supporters. Danger ahead...

by Anonymousreply 141March 24, 2018 5:31 AM

Op, who has contributed 16 comments to this thread thus far is really pushing this, "your time is over whitey" concept.

I am old, and frankly I don't care since I will be gone in 20 years, but the one thing I suspect is that whitey's time is not over.

by Anonymousreply 142March 24, 2018 6:28 AM

if her wants be a man, why don't she show us her talleywacker?

by Anonymousreply 143March 24, 2018 8:15 AM

What would you do if you went home with a big hot negro man and when u got into bed he had a big hairy pussy?

by Anonymousreply 144March 24, 2018 8:37 AM

Well, I will agree that it is a bit out of the ordinary to have a writer/producer as the VF cover story, especially one so early in their career. But, she is starring in Steven Spielberg's Ready Player One this month, so it probably has more to do with promoting that film. In any case, it's nice to see a black, gay woman on the cover of a popular magazine.

by Anonymousreply 145March 24, 2018 9:03 AM

It's funny trying to misuse the recent success of Black Panther as an example. As if Marvel just said they were going to do something for the blacks, scraped the bottom of the barrel and put out an inferior product that audiences and critics had to lower the bar to praise. Black Panther stars some of the most talented African and African American actors alive. It stands on its merit ... unlike Lena Waithe, an above average writer with a poorly limited comedic acting range.

Also, I haven't read/watched every interview from Waithe or the equally elevated Ava DuVernay, but do either of them talk about the black female directors who came before them? I'm talking about Julie Dash, Kasi Lemmons (Eve's Bayou), and Cheryl Dunye? I was just thinking of Dunye's amazing HBO Film Stranger Inside. There's some sort of contractual drama with the film and it's still not available via HBO GO, but it's worth checking out.

Anyway, a bit off topic to praise a talented black lesbian.

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by Anonymousreply 146March 24, 2018 5:09 PM

The celeb cover stories in VF are always the worst, saggiest, and dullest parts of any issue. They follow a formula. Writer sets the stage for the interview (Krista Smith’s recent cover story on J-Law was the ultimate) which then ushers in the overheated rhetoric about how special and unique he/she is, how they aren’t exactly playing by the rules and how they are EVEN better than insert Brando/Penn/Meryl/Julia here. It is almost like a celebrity algorithm they plug into a laptop and Presto! Cover story is complete!

by Anonymousreply 147March 24, 2018 5:15 PM

I was on the gay film festival circuit with a movie I made and there was another film by a black lesbian ("A Summer Story"? Or something like that) that would win every award and was highly praised at every gig. But it never got a release -- because (I am told) the black female director expected huge paydays, money up front so she held out and then waited too long and the offers went away. She and her film were long forgotten as the Next Thing came along. (I wrote this elsewhere and it may not be true anymore but for a time female directors who cracked the biz and were making it lost it fast -- because years would pass before their next follow-up film).

by Anonymousreply 148March 24, 2018 6:54 PM

I don't love the cover, but I am grateful that they did not put the over-praised and insufferable Ava D. on the cover.

by Anonymousreply 149March 24, 2018 6:57 PM

So VF is now appealing to "a hipper, more diverse cultural zeitgeist." No. No one wrote that phrase unironically. It's just--no.

by Anonymousreply 150March 24, 2018 7:07 PM

R126 could also be a believable biography explaining Leslie Jones.

Remind me which disruptive Lena (between this one and the and that other one) will be remembered longer?

by Anonymousreply 151March 24, 2018 8:15 PM

Yep R150, regardless of what non-talent they slap on the cover, the entire magazine has already been dumbed down inside, Jones is a famous hack. RIP Vanity Fair.

by Anonymousreply 152March 24, 2018 8:15 PM

I don’t have a specific beef with Ms. Waithe, it’s just she has tremendous limits as an actress because she can only play herself and her writing is especially flat, but more power to anybody hustling to creative success. I actually think her turn in Ready Player One will actually damage her current streak, it looks a mess.

by Anonymousreply 153March 24, 2018 8:52 PM

^Ready Player One has had amazing reviews, R153. As for Lena, she can only can play herself, but she can't event play herself well: 80% of what she says got lost in that low mumble jive she speaks.

by Anonymousreply 154March 24, 2018 9:02 PM

If they wanted to be radical they should have put that Parkland kid Emma on the cover.

by Anonymousreply 155March 24, 2018 9:06 PM

Did TimoTAY get a Vanity Fair cover already? I assume the answer is yes but if not... bad move.

Must admit this is the first year in decades that I boycotted the Hollywood issue with Reese and Oprah and their too many legs on the cover. I also boycotted Annie's latest book -- because it was filled with photos like that one of stars I don't care about and in drawing room poses that aren't remotely inventive. Go back to your cool basics, Annie, before it's too late. I saved a hundred bucks, at least, and bought those two new LaChappelle books instead.

by Anonymousreply 156March 24, 2018 9:56 PM

Lena keeps saying how tough and swag she is in her interviews, but every urban dyke I know who gets in a fight with a real ghetto thug and is punched in the face cry like the stupid bitches they be, they have a soft little vagina at the end of the day, vagina’s don’t have swag, big black cocks do.

by Anonymousreply 157March 25, 2018 3:59 AM

Me, myself, and I should have been on that cover!! How dare they!

And no, I'm not fucking pregnant.

Vanity Fair, I'm ready for my triple cheeseburger, I mean my close up.

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by Anonymousreply 158March 25, 2018 5:23 AM

How was the master of none thanksgiving epsiode flat writing? Or the chi? Her acting is not great, although it has improved, but her writing is excellent. Have you actually seen her work?

by Anonymousreply 159March 25, 2018 10:52 AM

R92 the writer of the article does seem to be projecting a lot.

by Anonymousreply 160March 25, 2018 11:20 AM

Why didn’t Oprah give her a cover?

by Anonymousreply 161March 25, 2018 12:23 PM

they had a tiff....lena not into kink.

by Anonymousreply 162March 25, 2018 12:38 PM

Oprah was on the cover in January r158, but nice try.

by Anonymousreply 163March 25, 2018 12:42 PM

I'm black and older and I get that I'm out of step with society and all but I'm also confused about this cover. I think that all of the media is working together to try to get all of us to accept EVERYthing. I notice that many tv commercials feature interracial couples (and sometimes children of such unions) when only a few years ago there was a controversy about a Cheerios commercial that showed an interracial couple and their child. A few years ago the trans thing was big and a decade earlier all you heard about was gay marriage. Now the thing is #metoo and gun control. And all of this is being pushed -- yes pushed by the "media" or whoever controls it to keep different "issues" in front of our eyes so they won't wander to the real problems out there -- the total takeover of our country by a very small group of people. So we stay discussing these manufactured issues, news, and controversies; meanwhile, we're being robbed blind, our basic constitutional rights are disappearing and we're being physically destroyed with drugs, industrialized foods and unchecked environmental damage (fracking, toxic waste, etc).

We've turned into a nation of obese, stupid people who are tied to our smartphones and incapable of seeing what's really going on around us. Our morals and standards are being destroyed making it easy for us to be manipulated. None of what's happened in the last 20 years is an accident. We're being prepped and primed -- for what I don't know but it can't be good.

by Anonymousreply 164March 25, 2018 1:07 PM

R159, her acting cannot “improve” as she cannot “act”, she’s putting so much energy into her fucking home girl with the snap back persona there is nothing left to shape anything resembling a character. CHI is a complete and precious bore. Her Thanksgiving episode that all the people rave about was enjoying because of other actor’s performances lifting the plodding narrative, especially Angela Basset. Lena needs another ten years under her belt, then I’ll cheer her on.

by Anonymousreply 165March 25, 2018 1:16 PM

It's going to be interesting to see the published circulation numbers for this issue. You get caught you have to pay back money to your advertisers

by Anonymousreply 166March 25, 2018 1:23 PM

When the subscribers on Park Avenue get this issue in the mail they are gonna plotz, “Herman, why is there a simian on my magazine cover?!”, there shall be an outcry, and we’re not even talking about the gushing drivel inside.

by Anonymousreply 167March 25, 2018 1:28 PM

I'm just glad they didn't put friggin Tig Notaro on the cover. I'm telling you... she has the connections and Louis CK did score her her own show.

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by Anonymousreply 168March 25, 2018 1:56 PM

Remember when Anna Wintour put Kim Kardashian and Kanye on the cover of American Vogue?

Same thing’s gonna happen.

Nothing.

by Anonymousreply 169March 25, 2018 3:06 PM

I agree, R164.

by Anonymousreply 170March 25, 2018 3:08 PM

me, a gay fairy man, fraid the butch dykes gunna take over the world and rule us all with mean swag.

by Anonymousreply 171March 25, 2018 11:21 PM

The whole idea of a "woke" Vanity Fair is ridiculous. As its very name suggests, Vanity fair is supposed to be about the trivial and the flashy and the glamorous: wealthy people and movie stars.

by Anonymousreply 172March 26, 2018 12:19 AM

R171 go spout your monkey shit over on LSA.

by Anonymousreply 173March 26, 2018 12:23 AM

The writing and editing in this issue is most obnoxious, juvenile, and cheapens whatever is left of the VF legacy. Before long, both the magazine and this month's cover person will both be forgotten.

by Anonymousreply 174March 26, 2018 12:33 AM

Everything is “less” with Jones’ first full ownership of the editorial, just completely hollow and amateur.

by Anonymousreply 175March 26, 2018 12:52 AM

Aunt Esther should have gotten her own Vanity Fair cover.

It couldn't have been any worse that this Lena Waithe SJW shit.

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by Anonymousreply 176March 26, 2018 1:05 AM

Hey sucka, I'm ready for my close up!

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by Anonymousreply 177March 26, 2018 1:08 AM

R163, I MEANT why didn’t Oprah give Lena a cover story in her own magazine?

(The answer is that Oprah is always on the cover of her own magazine and doesn’t want to share it with other black lesbians.)

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by Anonymousreply 178March 26, 2018 1:14 AM

THE cover is getting huge media and public accolades.

by Anonymousreply 179March 27, 2018 11:26 AM

Yeah, that's great R179 but let's see how that translates to subscription and advertising dollars because another cover like this one and they'll lose what's left of their longtime buyers and subscribers.

by Anonymousreply 180March 27, 2018 11:50 AM

We shall see

by Anonymousreply 181March 30, 2018 12:09 PM

I don't begrudge her at all for being "Black first". As a white gay man, I'm still much more likely to get hired after a job interview or advance at work than any Black person, straight or gay, male or female.

by Anonymousreply 182March 30, 2018 12:25 PM

She looks like Jay Z's uglier brother.

by Anonymousreply 183March 30, 2018 12:35 PM

She may lean towards the grotesque, but she’s extremely confident for being so “other.”

by Anonymousreply 184March 30, 2018 8:16 PM

What does being an other have to do with confidence ?

by Anonymousreply 185March 30, 2018 8:33 PM

SHe is great in Ready Player One.

by Anonymousreply 186March 31, 2018 2:28 PM

The new Editor clearly has no Visual sense, or Showbiz sense.

Vanity Fair is fucked.

by Anonymousreply 187March 31, 2018 8:37 PM

more Huffpost

by Anonymousreply 188March 31, 2018 8:39 PM

yay!

by Anonymousreply 189March 31, 2018 9:34 PM

Honored with Halle

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by Anonymousreply 190April 14, 2018 7:21 PM

[quote]That poor woman was hit by the Ugly Stick. Yuk! Vanity Fair wants to sell magazines not drive people away. —Send in the ugly clowns......

VF already sent in an ugly clown. The SNL lesbian with crazy eyes and the old lady voice was the cover last fall.

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by Anonymousreply 191April 14, 2018 7:31 PM

^Kate McKinnon is supermodel hot compared to Lena Waithe

by Anonymousreply 192April 15, 2018 9:33 AM

I'm still chucking at Vanity Fair's valiant attempt to appear "woke."

Why did Graydon Carter say VF was read only by those at the top and bottom of society? It always seemed like a typical middle-class publication to me.

by Anonymousreply 193April 15, 2018 11:49 AM

So does anyone have the sales numbers yet for this train wreck of an issue?

by Anonymousreply 194April 15, 2018 4:35 PM

I really like Lena but it's sort of odd how her connection to Aziz Ansari has been completely swept under the rug, while anyone who ever worked with Woody Allen is required to apologize and donate their salary.

by Anonymousreply 195April 16, 2018 12:48 AM

[quote]I really like Lena but it's sort of odd how her connection to Aziz Ansari has been completely swept under the rug, while anyone who ever worked with Woody Allen is required to apologize and donate their salary.

People were more in support of Aziz as people by and large chalked it up to clumsy seduction not sexual assault.

by Anonymousreply 196April 16, 2018 12:49 AM

Lol at R190s pic.

It’s literally Beauty and the Beast.

by Anonymousreply 197April 16, 2018 12:54 AM

Aziz is cool yo

by Anonymousreply 198April 16, 2018 3:00 AM

Aziz is insufferable and Lena is so bossy these days, both gold star cunts.

by Anonymousreply 199April 16, 2018 5:54 AM

.@LenaWaithe is the star of Nike's new hilarious campaign.

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by Anonymousreply 200April 17, 2018 6:26 PM

Aziz's show was the epitome of mediocrity and he's not that talented, but only an idiot could've taken those accusations seriously.

by Anonymousreply 201April 17, 2018 6:28 PM

she said she was "bullets"......wtmf does that mean?

by Anonymousreply 202April 18, 2018 12:14 AM

Lena cannot speak, marble mouthed and puts on an extra low voice to sound like a dude, she’s a parody of a hood rat lesbo, my lawd it’s exhausting keeping up with the Lenas Cardi Bs and the participation trophy culture. Waaaaaaaaah!

by Anonymousreply 203April 20, 2018 8:25 PM

She turns me on with her swag

by Anonymousreply 204April 20, 2018 11:49 PM

She had that horrid unflossed mouth breath, really bad.

by Anonymousreply 205April 21, 2018 3:19 AM

Meh.

by Anonymousreply 206May 8, 2018 1:28 AM

what the flock did she mean about the bullets? (r202)

by Anonymousreply 207May 14, 2018 4:35 AM

I dunno

by Anonymousreply 208May 14, 2018 2:02 PM

she really is stupid. they asked her about her gimmicky rainbow cape at met gala, and she went on babbling about nothing, it was hard work for the reporters to try and spin that into some kind of political statement, but they tried.

by Anonymousreply 209May 14, 2018 2:32 PM

Netflix

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by Anonymousreply 210June 25, 2018 6:42 PM

The complaint I have about the cover is that it featured the most unattractive picture of a person they could possibly find and then made it worse with lifeless graphics.

by Anonymousreply 211June 25, 2018 7:05 PM

Podcaster, vlogger, and comedian Kid Fury is developing a half-hour HBO comedy series that boasts Lena Waithe among its executive producers, Variety has learned exclusively.

The untitled project is described as a surreal dark comedy that follows Greg, a 20-something sarcastic gay black man navigating adulthood and responsibility in New York City while struggling to wrap his head around his undiagnosed clinical depression.

Kid Fury, whose given name is Gregory A. Smith, will serve as writer and co-executive producer on the series with Waithe executive producing. Chloe Pisello, David Martin, Jon Thoday, and Richard Allen-Turner of Avalon Television will also executive produce. Jason Kim will co-executive produce. Kid Fury is a comedian and co-host of the hit podcast “The Read” along with Crissle West. The podcast features a queer black perspective on pop culture, politics, and life advice, which has helped it establish a cult following. “The Read” also tours as a live show across the US and Europe, and recently celebrated it’s five year anniversary with a sold-out live show at the Apollo Theater.

He also tours with his solo stand-up show “Furious Thoughts: Live,” and recently appeared in a guest role on Season 2 of “Dear White People” on Netflix. He is also known for his viral YouTube videos like “S–t Black Gays Say” and his “Furious Thoughts” series. His channel has amassed over 17 million views

Kid Fury is repped by Ambitious Minds and WME.

The project marks the latest in a string of projects Waithe has in the works. It was recently announced that her latest script, “Queen & Slim,” will go into production in January starring Daniel Kaluuya for Makeready and distributed by Universal. Waithe also serves as executive producer and writer of the upcoming series “Twenties” at TBS.

Just last week, Waithe–who won an Emmy last year for her writing on “Master of None”–inked a first-look deal at Showtime, which airs her critically-acclaimed drama series “The Chi.” She is also an executive producer on the horror anthology series “THEM,” which has received a two-season order at Amazon.

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by Anonymousreply 212August 1, 2018 7:00 PM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 213December 8, 2019 12:33 PM

2020 Vision.

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