Prince Harry Refuses To Sign Prenup

She's going to take the lizards to the cleaners. 10 years, 2 kids. Book deals etc afterwards. He's a fool.

I don't believe this!!!

If it's forever then a prenup causes no harm. He must actually love her. Wishing them the best!

He is stupid. He not only should protect his money, he should make sure there are provisions that she can't go blabbing to the press or write books about the royal family after a divorce. He should also have some sort of assurances that any children aren't to be moved to the US.

He was never known to be particularly bright but he should have someone in the family insisting that he protect his interests.

No pre-nup - Not to worry, Harry. Everything is in a Royal Trust; nothing is in your name. Therefore, nothing is at risk.

Now, run along to your party, dear -

Why would any judge take millions and millions away from him...that would be ridiculous, even if it were a very long-term marriage.

If I remember correctly Diana got 17 million plus 400,000 a year. Fergie got 3 million and 15,000 a year.

Meghan is smarter than Fergie. She knows how to hustle so I bet she'd get a better lawyer and a better settlement in the event of a divorce.

Apparently prenups aren't enforceable in the UK but they are taken into consideration when determining divorce settlements.

He sounds like someone in love for the first time. Like a teenager. It will last forever!

I wonder if, in fact, it has more to do with his mother and resentment of his father's treatment of her than his own marriage.

He would have nothing, like Andrew, if she hadn't gotten the settlement. I recall an article that said Diana was horrified at how Andrew (and the others) had to grovel for money while Charles, as heir, had plenty. She didn't want that for Harry, as William would be similarly wealthy as his father.

I wonder if he views all the women who marry into that family through the lens of his mother.

The only way their "marriage" won't work is if she tires of being treated like a Prince$$. And that's not likely to happen; she's an aging, moderately-successful actress.

R9 The queen Mother had a lot of grandchildren and great-grandchildren so I'm not sure how much they all got from her, but I believe I read that the Queen Mother left Harry a larger amount than William because she knew that William would come into other sources of income that Harry wouldn't and she wanted to make sure he was provided for.

I'd expect The Firm to be quite keen on protecting its wealth from would-be opportunists and hustlers.

Every royal generation needs its wayward member with no real role, and this time it's Harry. The Firm learned new things from Fergie and Diana, divorces, publicity, settlements, embarrassments, and so on. Now they ought to be especially careful knowing that someone thirsty is trying to worm her way in - and not one who can bring much value to them.

At least given his role, William and Kate had an established relationship for several years before marriage.

This report is bullshit - no ones knows that. Don’t fall for this crap - they’re just trying to make a scandal.

This "story" is nonsense. It's totally false. Harry isn't the one who has to sign a pre-nup. Megan is the one who has to sign one

KA-CHING!!!!

[quote] Harry isn't the one who has to sign a pre-nup. Megan is the one who has to sign one

Both parties have to sign one.

I don't believe it. A prenup does not have to impoverish the less wealthy partner in a marriage. It can be designed to protect both parties, including the wealth of the prince and the future well being of his wife. No need to be an asshole about it.

We already knew he was dumb. It's just one more proof.

If the rumors of spending a season as a yacht girl are true then after the wedding it will be a free for all in the press outside the UK. Harry fucked off the UK press big time when he issued those draconian threats about reporting ANYTHING about Sparkle. He was treated with the indulgence of a favorite child prior to that, now the stories are on the surface very saccharin there is always an edge to them.

He's a Virgo, she's a Leo. Like and oil and water. When the attention she craves, wanes, she'll be outta there. For now, she's a 'Princess', so she's content.

This is the beginning of coverage of Meagain Markle as the villain of the piece.

First plant the seed poor popular Harry could lose it all if it all goes wrong.

Makes it easier to start chipping away at her in due course.

She's in for a long, rough ride and it's just starting.

The story is likely false. But, if not....there is already a tunnel in Paris with her name on it.

[quote]We already knew he was dumb. It's just one more proof.

Who are "we" - out of interest?

The rest of mankind r23. He’s dumber than a box of hair.

R23 Everyone who saw him with a Nazi armband.

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Do William and Kate have a prenup?

No, R27, I don't think they do. No freaking way Kate is gonna give up on being Queen Consort so the only way they'd get divorced is if William wanted to be rid of her and he's too whimpy to make a fuss even if he ever became unhappy in the marriage.

The firm and the royal family may be hands-off in accepting the phony social climber from America, but they aren't letting the prince squander away a fortune without a pre-nup.

Yes. Kate agrees to release her grip if he dies.

Johnny Carson wouldn't sign a pre-nup with his third wife. It cost him 35 million bucks.

I am preparing a special gift for dear Meghan

He’s blind by love.

I'm am certain that buried somewhere in the British Constitution there's a statute or something that prevents a financial meltdown by a former spouse. Imagine what would have happened if The Duchess of Windsor had successfully divorced The Dook?

Lilibet needs to talk with Harry. Be in love but don’t be fool.

I still don't believe that Harry's gonna marry negro american divorcee tv 'actress' twice his age. Not gonna happen. OR it's a nazi edward case.

Meghan to Harry: You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man.

"Every royal generation needs its wayward member with no real role, and this time it's Harry."

Harry is the most popular Royal.

Just as every generation needs its shit kicking... Princess Michael, Sarah Ferguson, Markle.

I don't see how she will last. She won't be able to cope with the way it turns out and he so plainly longs for a stable family life... bored out of her mind and dumped on by the Daily Mail every time she tries to have fun.

Harry has $41 or $42 million in his own right, apart from the family wealth, much of it left to him by The Queen Mum. I've read that she's actually a millionaire herself but I doubted the article I read that said she's worth $5 million.

I was surprised she could have a net worth of $5 M based on Suits.

That 5 million figure is based on what she supposedly earned on Suits-total, over the entire run of the series. It doesn't account for taxes, agent fees etc. and any money that she spent to live. So that 5 million figure is hardly an accurate account of her actual net worth.

Topless phots and video of Sparkles just leaked on a website called Celebrity Jihad. Kensington Palace claimed the photos were fake - so they aren't claiming that Meghan was hacked as they claimed with Pippa - but then the video came out. Whoops.

Not too risqué, however, in two photos, Megs is wearing the beaded bracelet Harry gave her, so the question becomes who was she sending the sexy photos to if not to Harry?

Gypsies, tramps, and skanks...

Who cares about this straight bullshit. He's balding.

i love self-destructive royals

r212 no real role? Harry's Invictus Games are a huge success for the country and royal family. Even before the Meghan announcements Harry was much more relevant than William; obviously as the future king William is always more important. Harry has charm, some hair on top, and isn't awkward in the spotlight like his brother. He has played a role in a lot of the royal family's positive press.

Even the Vegas scandal was rather positive in the end because it made him seem even more fun.

r27 great question. If no one had a problem with Kate the Gold Digger marrying up without a prenup, then they should be fine with Meghan doing the same.

r43 as a gay man I give her props on the nice tits.

DM posters swear that this will be MM's third wedding. They say that her first marriage was annulled, and that's why she's described as having been divorced only once. I'm not sure if this is true or not. Seems like there'd be a story about it somewhere if it were true.

R47, Andrew was considered quite dashing in his time and served in the Falklands. He was very popular, as was Fergie. But times are very different now, in a UK reeling from austerity and Brexit. Homelessness and a thought-to-be-collapsing NHS have left even Royalists unsure about why the RF should get taxpayer money.

Harry's very poor choice of Megtoinette -- she of the $75 K photo op dress, who has managed to outspend even Kate the Mattress in the short time she's been Harry's fiancé - has already stirred anti-monarchy segment to the point where there's a petition at the anti-monarchy (what the British call "Republican") website against taxpayer money being spent on Harry's wedding.

So Harry might be popular now, but the British public is fickle, and he hasn't done himself any favors by choosing an annoying, narcissistic, Z-list actress, spendthrift, grifter for a bride.

She 's a whore

I think Megan will increase Harry’s value in the royal family. The Queen is not only head of state of the United Kingdom but head of the Commonwealth which is browner group than the royal family and Britain.

I think Harry and Megan will be key representatives to the group because of her biracial background. This relationship between the UK and the Commonwealth countries will become much more important considering Brexit as the Commonwealth is primarily a trade pact based on shared histories of Anglo colonization.

Bullshit story, likely leaked by Meghan's team like so many other bullshit stories.

Kate's getting pregnancy advice from her (even though she's never had a baby and Kate is on #3), Kate must really love her!

William might walk her down the aisle, William must really love her!

Harry REFUSES to sign a pre-nup, Harry must really love her!

I predict that in a few years she's going to get very bored with this princess gig.

We'll never have another Diana. All we get now is "Kate stuns in" this and "Kate stuns in" that. Does Kate carry a stun gun?

She must give the world's greatest blowjob.

This is a bit of a misnomer, outside of The Sovereign (The Queen) none of The Royal Family have a very large 'Net Worth'. They have massive disposable yearly incomes which are inexhaustible (better than being a billionaire in some ways).

The money largely tied into unfathomable trusts that are protected under UK law.

To provide a recent example look at the estate of Gerald Cavendish Grosvenor, The Duke of Westminster. It was worth around £11Billion ($16Billion) and paid no inheritance tax! The finances of The Royal Family are organised in a similar fashion.

She’s always hanging on him. “I’m fucking him” to the world.

If the royals could do it, they should just make Harry king. He would be wildly popular. He's a total stud. But they have boring idiots in line before him.

Why can't the royal family tell her to snafu and stop feeding her lawyers rumors to leak out to the press. Harry used to be likable but now I can't stand him, just too much attention whoring. William is more tolerable now who would have thought.

Man, that is dumb. Harry and Meghan aren't the boring, stolid types who stick in there through thick and thin. Harry isn't the brightest tool in the box and seems like one of those self-deluded optimists though. I would put money on them divorcing down the line.

[BOLD] Prenuptial agreements are not currently legally binding in England. [/BOLD]

They are marrying at Windsor, England. So not much point anyhow?

"Prince Harry Refuses To Sign Prenup"

Is it all right to say, "Sn*tch Happy"?

Anyone who knows how to read people can see that's she's nowhere as into this thing as is Harry. He looks besotted, while her eyes alternate between boredom and pound signs.

[quote]He looks besotted, while her eyes alternate between boredom and pound signs.

I don't see that at all - but everyone else does.

I see he's besotted and thrilled to have her - but I don't see her indifference.

I think that's part of the reason she is so clingy with him. That's her way of trying to demonstrate that she's soooo in love with him and not just his title and money.

Harry is so simple.

Wow he really is dumb. This marriage will break up within 4 years, mark my words.

These two remind me of JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette. He’s dumb and pussy-whipped and she’s a twat that people inexplicably admire.

And it will end in tears, too.

[quote] That's her way of trying to demonstrate that she's soooo in love with him and not just his title and money.

Why should she be faking it? If you've read DL over the years, you'd think he was the most gorgeous, sexiest man, who ever lived.

[quote]I think that's part of the reason she is so clingy with him.

She's living in a new, strange country in a pretty (very) terrifying situation, with all the world watching and judging her. I don't blame her for being a bit clingy. Shit!

So apparently William and Kate do not have a prenup either. But at least Kate came from a very wealthy family on her own. Meghan has earned $4million. Got to hand her that.

[quote]But at least Kate came from a very wealthy family on her own

VERY wealthy? Not really. Not in comparison to William.

William and Kate are in this until the end.

R72 She's not a "bit clingy" she grips him for dear life! You have some people who like to cite how worldly and accomplished she is, then at the same time they like to claim she is this delicate damsel in need of saving. They like to talk about how she gave a speech in front of the UN and was on TV as a little kid talking about a sexist commercial but now she's "terrified" of being in public?

She moved to Canada on her own, which is just as "strange" as the UK, which is actually not really very strange at all. It's freaking England, not Somalia for gods sake.

[quote]She moved to Canada on her own, which is just as "strange" as the UK

for an acting gig - not marrying into the Royal fucking family.

& England is a big deal different from moving across the border into Canada.

R70, her popularity is overstated. Meghan right now is polling about the same as Charles in terms of favorability. William, Harry and Kate are much much higher.

If she keeps leaking these really stupid nonsensical stories and keep pushing the Diana comparisons, it's going to backfire badly. Her press coverage already way outpaces the public's interest in this wedding. She'll get a bump of interest again if they have a baby, but otherwise the further down the line of succession, the less people care.

They're turning her into the Yoko Ono of the 2020s.

The Daily Mail comments are just as nasty as the DL.

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She’s just too pushy and an obvious climber r78. If she wasn’t the comments would be nicer but as it is the oblivious harpy wore a £70k evening dress for an afternoon engagement pic. Trash.

boy I hope he changes his mind. The psychics said this is going to last about 5 years

She probably has had a larger income than he has. His wealth is tied up in trusts which existed before he even knew her. Most of what he spends comes in the form of allowances from his father and grandmother.

[quote]boy I hope he changes his mind

Gurl - see you on The Wedding Thread, in May.

[quote] She'll get a bump of interest again if they have a baby, but otherwise the further down the line of succession, the less people care.

I don't know - especially if she messes up.

I think they'll be watching her every move - ESPECIALLY with the American connection.

It'll be Fergie all over again.

Andy was the more popular, better looking younger brother. Everyone said Fergie was a "breath of fresh air" and would be good for the stuffy royal family. And look what happened there. It's history repeating itself.

unless they already have an agreement of some kind. there is no way he will be faithful to her. He has a thing for blondes.

There's NO WAY IN HELL she'll be able to take the ROYAL kiddies back to America.

England for life.

R84, well I meant if their relationship otherwise appears normal, healthy, etc.

If she ends up becoming another Fergie, the press and public will demand her head. The people who still care enough about royalty to have "favorites" love Harry and William as much as they love the Queen. They want Diana's sons to have long happy lives with good marriages and lots of kids. If some D list divorcee actress fucks up this chance, she's toast.

If she has any sense, she'll forget the PR bullshit, focus on one or two respectable causes, and relax and enjoy the riches. Even though she now has more fame than she could have ever achieved via her own career, she needs to accept that going forward she'll be an afterthought most of the time. If she can do that, she'll be rewarded with lots of photo ops with her eventual King brother and law and his Queen wife and she'll get lots of praise for whatever she decides to "raise awareness" for. But if she's angling this for constant press and adoration, she's going to fail spectacularly, because she can't do that without drama and that will bring on the hate quick.

You guys are acting like Harry is innocent in all this. He is just as attention whoring as she is, he carefully picked her because she loves the attention. They are both in love with the public and media attention since Harry does not want to become the forgettable prince. He found a woman very hungry for fame and realized they will make a great team. Think about it why is the firm not shutting down rumors written in the press. This PR relationship keeps Harry more relevant than he could ever imagined, it is a win win for both of them. She gets her profile increased and they both get to be seen as a power couple until they divorce and there is more attention for both of them. Let's say she decides she no longer wants to whore herself out he will dump her faster. It will never happen since bitch has been preparing herself for this all her life.

I agree Harry loves the attention whoring, but it's going to backfire far more on her than on him.

Maybe him wanting an attention whore for a wife will come back and bite him when she refuses to play second fiddle. I am sure Kate will have a good laugh because she will become the people's favorite female royal.

People on here are being far more critical of their "beloved" Harry than ever before.

Are the tides turning against him?

"Kate the Mattress." I had to laugh at that one. "Kate stuns in this" and "Kate stuns in that." Yawn.

Diana and Sarah breathed life into the royal family. We need them back. They were full of personality and pizzazz. This current crop of wards of the state is bloody dull as dishwater.

[quote] I am sure Kate will have a good laugh because she will become the people's favorite female royal.

Yes! Like a hyena!

[quote]Diana and Sarah breathed life into the royal family. We need them back

I am sure Fergie would jump at the chance. Diana is a taller order.

What did I state wrong, Kate is not insufferable like Meghan. I am not Kate nor a royal fan but there were no overload of rumors leaked to the press about Kate before she did marry Williams. This megahn chick attention whoring is in overdrive.

Maybe it's Harry pushing her out there.

This gurl will never win. You've decided already.

Oh please. Meghan got herself a Vanity Fair by talking about being Harry's girlfriend. Harry didn't push her onto that cover. And let's face it, she was never getting that cover on her own.

R88, the Brits do not love William and Harry as much as they revere and respect Queen Elizabeth. They feel the monarchy is finished when the Queen dies. They hate Charles and Camilla. They feel William and Kate are lazy freeloaders who don't carry their weight when it comes to appearances and royal duties. As for Harry they think he's a spoiled brat who gets away with too much and they think he's marrying Markle to stick it to the family.

If Sparkle and Harry have children, she would not be permitted to take them (children of the Royal Family) off to America if they divorce.

Given their long experience in such things, the Royal Family know how to hang onto the Royal Family wealth.

Whatever wealth Harry has (from Diana and/or the Queen Mother) is his and while it might be managed by someone involved with the Royal Family it would certainly be kept separate.

I have no idea of this story is true. Given Sparkle's history of love 'em and leave 'em, one would think prudence might be in order for Harry. But he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Since Harry needs the Queen's permission to marry, can't QEII put certain conditions on that permission? No signing of prenup, no wedding.

I seem to remember reading that Charles paid for the very, very expensive "Look we're engaged!" dress. That sounded rather goofy to me. I can't see Charles (and Camilla) wanting to fork over that much for a dress for a divorced American climber. Now, if Harry paid for the dress, given his presumed besotted state, it makes sense. But Charles? Sounds strange.

Recent polls have William and Harry as popular as the Queen, Kate next, then Phillip, then Charles, then Camilla. Meghan hovers around Charles' numbers.

As this is an AMERICAN site - you should all be on Meghan's side. Not cutting her off at the knees - like cunts.

[quote]has already stirred anti-monarchy segment to the point where there's a petition at the anti-monarchy (what the British call "Republican")

Anti-monarchists are referred to as "republicans" (lowercase, since we're not talking about the GOP) in every country that has a monarchy.

R101, if I read it correctly that poll was based on 1031 adults. Go read read some British news sites both conservative and liberal and you'll come away with quite a different impression.

What do you mean R104?

R102 - Wrong. It's an international site, based in the USA, with the majority of posters from the USA.

This just proves to me what a fucking idiot Harry is.

[quote]This just proves to me what a fucking idiot Harry is.

Turning...turning...

Personally, I'd take William over Harry. You just know that that big, goofy, nice guy William is a freak in the sheets.

R105 read my post @ R99 in reply to R94's assertion William and Harry are beloved by the Brits. I think the Brits like Harry but they think he's a spoiled brat who is allowed to do as he pleases who also speaks publicly of his dislike for his royal duties. Renounce your title and go work for a living you obnoxious freeloader.

Oops! I meant [R105] read my post @ [R99] in reply to R88's post.

Most of the complaints I've seen about Will and Kate were centered on their laziness and the fact that they did so few public events. It does seem as if they got the message because it looks like they've been out doing more even tho Kate is heavily pregnant. And most people seem to appreciate Kate more now that they see that Will could have done much worse. So I think they can restore their popularity as long as they look like they are willing to work.

I don't think there is much Meg can to do change the impression people have of her at this point. I don't think she can help herself and if there is anyone telling her to tone it down she doesn't seem to be listening.

I recently watched the DVD of "The Queen" and remember a scene with the (actors, of course) Queen and Queen Mum walking in the garden in Scotland discussing what move to make given the post Diana's death public reaction.

Queen Mum said something like "...and you know that what you're worrying about is what happens to the Monarchy after you die." The Queen then says nothing but gives her mother a sidelong glance as if this is something that they are all aware of. (I took this as a reference to Charles.)

Kate needs elocution lessons.

Her diction is terrible.

She mumbles.

[quote]I took this as a reference to Charles.

You were right to.

He's dumber than a bag of hammers.

You were right but from what I gather the Queen Mother would never have said anything like that because she didn't believe it. She doted on Charles.

R112, Markle's engagement dress cost $75,000.00. The Brits dislike her and for good reason.

The DAILY MAIL'S print edition's front page mentions Sparkle's new topless shots/ video, but there's nothing I can see in the US / UK online DM.

Whoever is handling Markle's PR seem to be trying to obfuscate that the big issue with the rather tame pictures is not that Megs is topless in some, but that there's been no claim of hacking- so if her account wasn't hacked, who did she send the pictures to?

She has Harry's bracelet on in some of them, meaning she was in a relationship with Harry when the photos were taken, but it's really unlikely that Harry gave the photos/video to Celeb Jihad, the website that originally published them, so who was the recipient of Meg's saucy shots?

The Tumblr queens claim to have proof that Megs was still with her hunky Canadian chef boyfriend in September 2016 - well after she'd boffed Harry in Botswana- but the chef has been a gent so far, so it's doubted that he gave Celeb Jihad the pics, so who else was Megs banging?

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Was there something more than the sunbathing one and the video where she is wearing a white bikini bottom and it looks like she was being recorded while she was trying to set a timer on her camera? Those two were the ones I saw on Celeb Jihad that looked real other than one or two others that didn't show anything. They had a couple on there that were obvious fakes.

Or the gin soaked Camilla.

The pics with the dog (not her "beloved" mutt that Megs left in Canada because she claimed that, at only five years old, he was "too old to make the trip," but her "beloved" Beagle, the dog who's mysteriously missing now after breaking two legs) are not fake and in them Megs is wearing Harry's bracelet.

That's what's important. Megs was in a relationship with Harry. There's almost no way Harry sent those shots to Celeb Jihad, so who was Megs sending those pictures to, if not Harry?

One of the most annoying things about L'affaire Sparkle is that Worthless Waity, and her family of mountebanks, who the Brits have been rightfully moaning about for years, has shot up in popularity solely because she's not Sparkle. That's probably why Kate is gurning like a madwoman every time she's "working."

[quote] Prenuptial agreements are not currently legally binding in England.

They are not AUTOMATICALLY legally binding in England and Wales.

The courts do however take them seriously and there has already been a set precedence in the UK Supreme Court system. They have even upheld prenups that were written in other countries, but used in divorces in UK courts. The Court of Appeal has even upheld all of these cases. So, technically they aren't legal, but there aren't any judges who are turning them down or refusing to enforce them

And basically every "family law" attorney in England draws up prenuptial agreements for their clients

I agree R123 the pics with the dog are real, but she's covered up. Are they claiming that there are more where those come from that will be more embarrassing?

[quote]the dog who's mysteriously missing now after breaking two legs

Maybe Harry broke them.

He's probably clumsy, as well as dim.

[quote]The courts do however take them seriously and there has already been a set precedence in the UK Supreme Court system. They have even upheld prenups that were written in other countries, but used in divorces in UK courts.

There's such a thing as a "UK Court" - I thought laws were different from country to country.

People used to elope to Gretna Green (on the Scottish side of the border) and get married by a blacksmith.

Yes, R125, Celeb Jihad, the site that published them originally, claims that there are more provocative pics of Sparkle.

But again, it's not the pictures themselves, it's that she had to have sent them to someone who is presumably not her Harry.

Yeah, R126, the missing dog has really pissed off the DM commenters, who were already upset about the five-year-old dog she dumped in Canada under the pretext of it being "too old" to make the trip across the Atlantic. What really pissed the DM Brits off is that she used those dogs as props in her social media, then apparently tossed them when they were no longer useful.

They just make this shit up, you know.

I would think that she was hacked rather than she sent them to someone who then turned them over to CJ. That video in the white bikini bottom, why would she send that to someone? It looks like something she didn't even know was being recorded and didn't bother to erase.

DL Cunts know a cunt when they see one and Meghan should know she can't out cunt us though she'll do everything to give us a run for the money.

DL also knows that Handsome Harry the Horse Riding Instructor's son has only so much good will on his side before his dumb as a box of hair stupidity takes over.

Kensington Palace (the British Royal Family) said that the pictures were fakes, but then the video came out from the same website, Celeb Jihad. The video is clearly not fake.

The speculation is that if KP had said the pics were hacked (not fakes) there would have to be a police investigation into the hacking, such as the one when Waity's sister, Pippa, was hacked.

Given that Sparkle is wearing Harry's bracelet, but it's almost certain Harry didn't release the pics to Celeb Jihad, probably the last thing KP and Meg/Harry wanted was an investigation as to the provenance of the pictures, because it seems that Megs sent sexy pics to someone who was not Harry AFTER hooking up with Harry.

It's pretty well known that Meg started hooking up with Harry while she was still living with Corey.

There is a BI out there about there being a full out sex tape of Meg. All of the other BIs about her have been proven to be true. It would be quite entertaining if that sex tape was dropped on the even of the wedding.

*eve

They'll show it at Harry's bachelor party.

Imagine Meghan's walking down the aisle of St. George's in her virginal white gown while dudes everywhere are spanking it to her sex tape.

Harry Iz Hawt!!!

Is this really true? Actual semi nudes and definitely taken after she started seeing Harry?

[quote] There's such a thing as a "UK Court

English and Welsh courts.

[quote]the Queen Mother left Harry a larger amount than William

The Queen Mother was an extravagant, alcoholic spendthrift whose daughter spent the better part of fifty years keeping out of bankruptcy court because Mum refused to downsize or divest. What was left was property, a truly fabulous jewel collection and some notable art - all of which was reportedly left to the Queen. Camilla now has many of the most showy of the jewels on loan from her mother-in-law, but since they are her personal property Liz can leave them to whomever she sees fit (besides, can you see Anne, Kate or Meghan wearing the Greville jewels that Camilla is quite fond of/), and the sovereign is exempt fro Britain's rather stiff inheritance taxes.

I don’t know about British law, but under the law of most states in the US, in a divorce you are entitled to keep your “separate property”, the property you had before you married. Your ex-spouse can claim a percentage of the increase in value of separate property during the marriage, but not the separate property itself. If British law is the same, Harry is in no danger even without a prenuptial agreement.

[quote]She 's a whore

[quote]—The English people

So the English fawn over whores? Have you seen the way she’s treated in public appearances?

[quote]There's such a thing as a "UK Court" - I thought laws were different from country to country.

That’s nice, but that’s not what he said. He said UK Supreme Court, which most certainly DOES exist.

Don't worry, Meghan, Honey. I was a huge whore (perhaps you saw my snake photos) who became a princess and I'm accepted by every European Royal Family still reigning.

It's simple. She intentionally leaked her own topless/nude pics/videos. Harry and Sparkles are basically an inferior remake of Edward and Wallis. Maybe when Madonna's in her 90's looking like the great great grandmother of an 80 year old Mae West, she can direct a crappy biopic about their romance too.

Wouldn't it be something if The Queen bequeathed ALL of her jewelry to Fergie and had her referred to in her will as "my most favorite and beloved daughter-in-law"? Imagine the look on Camilla's face upon hearing it.

Upon realizing that Elizabeth left all of her jewelry to her favorite and beloved daughter-in-law, Fergie, Camilla bolts upright out of bed letting out a shrill scream loud enough to awaken the whole palace with the exception of Elizabeth, who merely smiles in her sleep knowing what Camilla's nightmare was about.

Why do these threads always end up being about the jewellery?

[quote]That’s nice, but that’s not what he said. He said UK Supreme Court, which most certainly DOES exist.

Are you Christiane Amanpour?

You sound just like her.

So, what did happen to the dog who came to England and ended up with two broken legs? (That sounds like the title of a children's horror book.)

Has there been any new info about the wounded pooch?

Sounds like the one left behind in North America dodged a bullet.

R149 Where’s Jessica Fletcher when need her?

[quote]So, what did happen to the dog who came to England and ended up with two broken legs?

Probably goes walkies with all the other actress mommies in Kensington Gardens.

[quote]So, what did happen to the dog who came to England and ended up with two broken legs?

>>>

This chick is, to quote LSA "fonts" THIRSTY; she played dim Harry magnificently, dropping hints to the media left and right, while pretending to Harry that she was being persecuted. She even got Harry to attack the British press, hence the snide campaign now directed against both of them.

[quote]It was just as well Meghan and Harry had somewhere to hide because over the following days the story snowballed. It was quickly discovered that the pair followed each other on Instagram, and as the media were eager to share, in one of the photos she had posted Meghan was wearing a blue-and-white beaded bracelet identical to one Harry wore.

The actress’s L.A.-based agency at the time fueled the rumors of a romance when they were contacted for comment and said: “Should this be confirmed by the Palace, all of us at Kruger Cowne are delighted for them and wish them well.”

[quote]Meghan, who was in London with Harry at the time the statement was released, was supportive. According to a source: “They were Harry’s words and sentiments, but Meghan was worried about her safety and particularly upset and distressed that her mother was being hounded for comment, and Harry made sure that particular issue was addressed.”

After working on several versions, Harry marched across the cobbled courtyard to Apartment 8 at Kensington Palace where his office is based, to hand the statement to his press secretary, Jason Knauf.

On November 8, just before midday the statement was released on Twitter. It was explosive, unprecedented, and highly flammable. Acknowledging that Meghan Markle was his girlfriend for the first time since the rumors had started, Prince Harry claimed that the actress had been “subject to a wave of abuse and harassment” that was sexual and racist. His anger was palpable, and he was determined to stem the stories before things really got out of control. After all, he had already lost two serious girlfriends who couldn’t deal with the pressure of being in the spotlight; he wasn’t prepared to lose a third.

The palace said Harry personally “asked for this statement to be issued in the hopes that those in the press who have been driving this story can pause and reflect before any further damage is done. He knows that it is unusual to issue a statement like this, but hopes that fair-minded people will understand why he has felt it necessary to speak publicly.”

Unsurprisingly, the statement triggered a media storm. It was one of the most powerfully worded public defenses of privacy any member of the royal family had ever issued. While some commentators commended the prince for being chivalrous and standing by his girl, others like the Daily Mail said he had been “hot headed . . . ring off scatter gun accusations against those who have reported and commented on his affair.” It reopened the debate about press freedom and did nothing to help Harry’s already complicated relationship with the media, and there was some frustration as to why the Palace hadn’t simply gone to IPSO, the new press regulator, to issue “desist notices.”

“There is a worrying tendency,” the Daily Mail noted in one of its comment pages, “particularly among the young royals, to expect all the advantages that go with their birth while at the same time wanting to enjoy the privacy afforded to those of the Queen’s subjects who have to work nine-to-five for a living.”

Just to hammer home the point, Megs then shows up right under the Daily Mail's office:

[quote]Just days later Meghan was photographed shopping on Kensington High Street and walking back to the Palace, confirming that she was staying with Harry at the time he issued the heartfelt missive. She was spotted by a Daily Mail journalist while shopping at the Kensington branch of the grocer Whole Foods. In her Hunter Wellington boots and Barbour coat, Meghan was attired more for a shooting than a shopping trip, but the fact that she was wearing Harry’s favorite brown baseball cap really blew her cover.

So a TV ACTRESS who is very active on social media and has one of those lifestyle blogs with a bunch of merching deals is terrified of the press?

And to deal with that terror, her BF, who is one of the most famous people on the planet, publishes an angry letter to the press confirming a relationship that barely anyone knew about with a person who has very low name recognition by herself?

And shortly after she shows up on a Vanity Fair cover, which she had zero chance of ever landing on based on her own career, talking about that relationship?

Yeah, OK, sure.

[quote]So a TV ACTRESS who is very active on social media and has one of those lifestyle blogs with a bunch of merching deals is terrified of the press?

This is a completely different cup of tea from being in some low profile TV show in Canada, for God's sake.

^ Nice try. I might have bought that if not for the Vanity Fair cover. She should have stayed in her lane with a Good Housekeeping cover if she wanted people to actually believe that.

No r155, nobody had heard of her but she manipulated it until she got coverage. If she was genuinely looking for privacy that can be done. She’s a fame whore.

She probably hadn't realised the power of REAL FAME until now.

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[quote]What would Britain look like without a very established ruling family as head of state?

Perhaps like a country that has decided to step into the twenty-first century?

Does anybody actually believe this garbage or are y’all just playing along?

This is too funny - new photos have been released by Celeb Jihad and RADAR ONLINE is actually pretending that it believes that Celeb Jihad is an ISIS site, despite obviously satirical content like the following:

[quote]The site declares: “The pathetically impotent British imperialists would be wise to heed ISIS’ most reasonable demands before even more Meghan nudes are leaked.”

“For according to gossip along the caravan lines from Raqqa to Tikrit, there are numerous Meghan pics to come in which she dildos her sin holes with some fried chicken and pigs’ feet.”

"there are numerous Meghan pics to come in which she dildos her sin holes with some fried chicken and pigs’ feet.”

Can't. Stop. Laughing.

If she sexted the pics to Harry then how did Celeb Jihad get them?

Has anyone followed how Celeb Jihad works in the past? Do they have a good track record of following up if/when they claim they have more pics?

Finally, someone they'll dislike more than me!

Camilla looks like a joke in that jewelry. Talk about lipstick on a pig. If you're going to be queen consort and can't wear fancy jewelry without looking like a hung over Barry Humphries you need to find another job. For all her faults at least Diana could put on a real show.

Now you've got the princes marrying girls who would look their best buying wholesale at a Jersey outlet.

I'm sure the Queen and Philip at this point are saying 'Who gives a fuck we'll be dead soon enough anyway.'

And what the hell is in Harry's office? A dial phone and rolodex?

[quote] Camilla looks like a joke in that jewelry.

This is really true.

She just looks silly in these. You really have to have a presence to be able to carry off being draped all over with the stones shown in this picture.

That necklace can be split into two pieces: One with 2 strands, the other with 3. And, for the tiara experts on DL, isn't that tiara one of those that can be worn with a row of the jewels removed?

Perhaps if she had worn only parts of this collection, instead of the whole getup, she might have appeared better. Possibly. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe not.

^^^I don’t think the Greville Tiara comes apart. It has been remade twice but isn’t a transformer.

Haha! Celeb Jihad is doing a "Topless Princess Battle" where they compared Meg and Kate's topless photos:

"Meghan’s pics are undeniably better quality than Kate’s, but her body is unquestionably worse. Perhaps Meghan could have given Kate a run for her money when she was an halal age, but as a barren mid 40-something year old divorcee Meghan’s titties certainly look worse for wear as she has clearly been rode hard and put up wet too many times."

How about a link, R169?

I don't really like their tactics all the time, it is a violation to be posting images that were meant to be private but wtf, it's not like it was hard to find. Here's the link:

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I thought it was pretty well established that she was still living with Cory when she started hooking up with Harry? If you watch the engagement interview the part where they talk about the timeline of how they met is awkward. They clearly rehearsed some bullshit so it wouldn't look bad.

She also cheated on her first husband with a hockey player. Of course her rep denied it, but read her ex-husband's response when asked about him.

Harry is borderline retarded.

Her clothing line launched around November 2016, R173, conveniently right around the time Harry ALL ON HIS OWN, sent out the inflammatory letter announcing their relationship. Free publicity! Well played, Meghan!

So, it appears that her relationship with the Hunky Chef was still going strong in November of 2016, so maybe even after Harry put out the stupid letter.

And she's just lied through her (blindingly white) teeth about the timeline. But maybe she had to in order to get a spousal visa or something.

This blogger, the sanest by far of the Tumblr crowd, has worked out her visa issues - her visa expires the day of the wedding in May or the day before or something. Scroll way down.

He was the most eligible bachelor in the world and she was the best he could find? I don't think anyone expected him to marry some 19 year old virgin but the amount of baggage she's bringing is a bit too much to fit into that pretty horse drawn carriage she so desperately can't wait to ride in on her wedding day.

We've had whores in the Royal Family for decades (Princess Margaret & Lord Snowden, Princess Anne etc) Not sure that anyone gives a fuck now?

That engagement dress was just beyond ridiculous. It was totally inappropriate for daytime, the $75,000 pricetag was both obnoxious and completely tone-deaf, and it was just ugly and trashy-looking. Very 80s "Dynasty." Ridiculous. I'm surprised the Palace let her wear it.

Photogenic whore is a whore. What does anyone expect from the Royal Family these days?

Women hating other women for no apparent reason. What a shocker.

What women r180? AFAIK this is a majority male site.

Most of the comments in this thread are from women, R181.

The Camilla pic at R167 has a sort of mannequin quality to it. Old, obviously, but more gimmicky like trying to draw in people attracted to layers of cheap made-in-China shit that would break as soon as the cashier puts it in a bag.

If it looks that bad on an old bag destined to be queen consort, imagine how spectrashcular Meghan would make it all look!

Daily Mail has released series of articles about Charles and Camilla and how they tried to change her image and bring to the public. Lilibet is a strong woman who refused to meet Camilla mention her name and left their wedding after few moments. Queen Mother also loathed Camilla. Prior to the wedding Lilibet kept Camilla out of sight refused to be officially introduced to her or even to meet her. This all drove Charles insane. Lilibet rules!

"Pointless bitchery," R180, is the raison d'être of the DL.

Harry will stray before she does. Mark my words.

Honestly she makes that jewelry look like something you would pick up at a dollar store.

Throw a Chanel on a horse and it becomes nothing more than a horse blanket.

O happy horse, to bear the weight of Antony!

Harry is no Anthony. But then, she's no Cleopatra.

And hopefully he'll stray with a boy named Mark, per your words, Della R186!

Oh happy Harry to bear the weight of Meghan!

At least for the six months I give them.

R182 And you know that ... how? On an anonymous site?

OMG! at those DM comments @ R172:

[quote] So, Markle was clearly still with Cory until quite late in 2016, at a time she claims to have been with Harry. She's a two-timing, lying bit of TRASH

Dear Harry, I have two words for you:

PAUL MCCARTNEY

He didn't have a prenup with that one-legged whore and she cleaned him out. AND she can still use the title Lady McCartney!!!!

How do you enter into something like marriage and even before you take your vows you tell your partner I want to share everything with you for the rest of my life despite the fact that I don't trust you any farther than I can throw you.

A surprise trip to Scotland today. They look sincerely engaged with the crowd of people.

In my day we had an axe.

[quote]A surprise trip to Scotland today.

How did Northern Ireland become Scotland?

I was wondering that r198. I know they’re geographically close but they are separate countries. I wonder if r196 wanders into Mexico all the time thinking he’s still in Arkansas?

she's becoming so fucking famous - people are starting to scream when they see her.

& she's taking on a cool elegance only people with lots of money and confidence can pull off.

"One cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear."

so DON'T!

This BI is supposedly about Meg:

"This former B list mostly television actress with an alliteration for her name told her ex she was unable to get pregnant, so this should all be very interesting the next year."

she's becoming so fucking famous - people are starting to scream when they see her.

They've no doubt seen the pics of Sparkle's weird-looking titties.

She certainly knows how to play a part.

You all seem to think he's such a dish - why should she be faking it?

She looks like she should be auditioning for commercials Jennifer Anniston turns down.

Just looked at yesterday's pictures from Northern Ireland.

Lots of them show her looking directly at the camera. Lots. And when not looking at the camera, she's playing for the camera.

Apparently there were some pictures posted from when they visited a pub in NI where some woman was giving her the "I don't believe you for a minute" dead eye. Has anyone seen them? Sounds like they were taken down so that only the "we love you" pictures remained.

She certainly enjoys the attention and the fame she would never had as an actress.

R209 She hasn’t learnt the rule royals don’t need to look at the camera.

Well, someone should have clued her in that it was wrong, wrong, wrong to wear the colors of the Republic of Ireland when visiting Northern Ireland.

Clueless.

I imagine the Royal Family forbids prenups because they can be leaked to the press. If the time comes for divorce, the Royal Family has enough clout to put pressure on the divorcee to accept the terms they offer. I bet Liz's lawyers can make it pretty miserable for anyone who gets out of line.

also her unbuttoned coat was blowing around... she hasn't quite had the game figured out for her.. but she certainly looks like it was delicious canary.

[quote] she hasn't quite had the game figured out for her

How dumb must she be not to figure out that an unbuttoned coat in the wind and rain is a stupid idea.

And the close up pictures of her shoes look to me like the shoes are too big for her. Perhaps that is why she holds onto Harry with a death grip - to avoid tripping over her feet.

Any body language expert will tell you she's not registering discomfort when she touches him, she's demonstrating control.

The guest list for the wedding has been released.

Some are reporting that in some cases, one member of a couple is invited and another is not.

What's up with that?

Is that a UK fashion?

Maybe it's plus 1.

How many attending from Compton?

Wendy trashed MM to the tits Friday which she hasn't done in the past. Messy.

What did Wendy say?

Any royal experts on DL?

What is the significance of the Queen doing to inviting to Prince William's wedding and Prince Charles doing the inviting to Prince Harry's wedding.

The invitations are different.

Here is Prince William's

And here is Prince Harry's invitation.

[quote]What is the significance of the Queen doing to inviting to Prince William's wedding and Prince Charles doing the inviting to Prince Harry's wedding.

Prince William was a Royal Wedding and the Queen is the sitting monarch, so she would naturally extend the invite for a Royal Wedding. Harry's is not considered a Royal Wedding (because Baby Machine Kate is pumping out heirs as fast as she can) so it is hosted by the groom's father, who is also paying for it.

Kate is very shrewd. She already has two royal heirs and one currently in the hopper. (Sparkle better have some kids in the freezer in order to catch up.)

Kate and Sparkle are the same age (36).

I'm so over Kate. I hope Meghan can pull this off.

from r176 [quote] He was the most eligible bachelor in the world and she was the best he could find? I don't think anyone expected him to marry some 19 year old virgin but the amount of baggage she's bringing is a bit too much to fit into that pretty horse drawn carriage she so desperately can't wait to ride in on her wedding day.

Dare I say, that the late John F Kennedy Jr made the same mistake. Both men have been rumored to be less than average in the I.Q. Department.

I don't get all the negativity re Kate. She and William knew each other for 7 years before they married and saw a lot of each other. They broke up once and got back together. William had more than enough time to look elsewhere and consider his choices. Their marriage came as no great surprise to anyone. And, yes, they are having children. Wow - big shock.

Harry and Sparkle didn't even know each other for a year before their engagement. During that time they were not even living in the same country. And Sparkle has more baggage than United Airlines.

Kate and Wills are pumping out one heir after another to make absolutely, positively sure that idiot Harry won't even come close to being on the throne.

With the worry of a prenup eliminated, how much does Meghan plan to leave Harry when she ditches him?

Wedding invitations - inviting one half of some couples.

WTF?

Bound for a messy divorce. Harry or his handlers should just call it off now and save everyone the hassle. Meghan can find some rich pimp back in the US.

I think Meghan's great. She carries herself beautifully, looks natural and comfortable in front of crazed crowds, and seems to be compassionate and passionate both. She's a great addition to the royal family.

I think she is great as well. SO she slept around, that's normal for most women under 50 years of age, get over it people. They don't know each other, well QEII and Phillip weren't joined at the hip prior to Marriage and they lasted over 60 years. Give the woman a chance.

r227 the issue with Kate is that unlike Meghan and most women in the 21st Century she did nothing prior to marrying William. She acted like a Jane Austin character, waiting around for years for her dear prince to propose. After she married him, she tries to do as little as possible with her royal engagements. She is golddigger to the highest degree. She will be a lazy stuck up Queen. I like Meghan but I don't think she will be around long enough for William's coronation, so she gets to avoid the wrath of Lazy Kate.

[quote]Kate is that unlike Meghan and most women in the 21st Century she did nothing prior to marrying William. She acted like a Jane Austin character, waiting around for years for her dear prince to propose. After she married him, she tries to do as little as possible with her royal engagements. She is golddigger to the highest degree. She will be a lazy stuck up Queen.

Do, do, do!

Who cares?

She does more than enough.

Why should she be racing around like a fucking roadrunner?

She's a lovely girl. A good mother and a good wife.

Do we know who has been snubbed? And did they do it because they don't want the lizards that Eugenie and Beatrice would drag in? Or maybe it's their way of not inviting Fergie?

Oh, and what are you going to do now, call me a frau?

Don't bother.

One of the "I love Sparkle" crowd calling Kate a "golddigger".

Oh, the hilarity and hypocrisy. Thanks for the laugh, R233.

Even you don't think Sparkle will stay very long by saying

[quote] I don't think she will be around long enough for William's coronation

Do you seriously think that little minx would be marrying this idiot if he insisted on a pre-nup? She has him exactly where she wants him.

The Sparkle-stans really are tragically comical as R237 nicely points out.

After Brexit, will the UK even be able to afford (or want to pay for) these second- and third-rate players? Andrew's girls at least have some genetic claim to the family. I can't believe the establishment would even think of paying for some American tart past her expiration date.

She is an entertainer. She will entertain us. Like Donald Trump.

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I doubt these 2 will manage 60 years. 6 if they're very lucky.

And Meghan knows there's a tunnel in France with her name on it when the shit hits the fan.

If Meghan and Harry divorce, Meghan can star in a remake of "Not without my Children" - playing herself as she tries to flee Great Britain with her children.

If these recent stories about Prince Charles being such a spendthrift are true, I wonder that he doesn't find some way to get someone else to fork over the huge costs for Harry's wedding.

Good point, R245. Perhaps Sparkle should launch a GoFundMe page for her fangurls to contribute. That might earn at least £750 if she's lucky.

Charles is only a spendthrift for the rest of the family and everyone else. He's notoriously extravagant for himself and Camilla and is hated for it. Even by his parents.

Kate's job is to do babies, she does her job.

Sparkle is a huge gold digger who knows a gullible idiot when she sees one.

But MM will be good at her job if she manages to hide the obvious fakeness. She does not have an honest bone in her body but she knows how to hustle for a camera.

[quote] Charles is only a spendthrift for the rest of the family and everyone else.

R247, You misunderstand the definition of spendthrift.

The definition of SPENDTHRIFT: a person who spends money in an extravagant, irresponsible way.

It's better NOT to sign it and look like a victim when she takes him to the cleaners, than it is to sign it, look like a jerk and have the court throw it out later and you still get taken to the cleaners. It's not about money it's about public relations.

Yes, you're right r249, I had it exactly backwards and I know better. Time to put away the bourbon and go to bed. Night.

Isn't she supposed to be the one who signs the pre nup?

He's the one with the millions.

Like 'oh honey if anything happens between us I don't want a penny because I'm so pure in heart. And I can earn my money on my own as an actress or selling my own line of pantsuits on QVC or shilling for Jenny Craig.'

Moot point R252. With the help of IVF she will have twins and can live off royal child support for decades.

Until she gets that hair under control she will look neither polished, chic, or royal. She's gotta stop tucking it behind her ears - I don't think wearing it down is the answer.

People love to criticize Kate's style but Meghan's style is utterly bland and boring.

Post divorce, Meghan can also ghost write a best selling memoir and make millions: "Princess for a Day"

Meghan has a huge Julia Roberts mouth. She can probably suck his cock and his balls at the same time, if that turns him on.

[quote] Perhaps Sparkle should launch a GoFundMe page for her fangurls to contribute

She's WAY beyond the fangurl stage. She's an international star. People scream when she appears in public.

THINK: The Beatles!

Wendy gives them a year.

If such a toothpaste bland nobody like her can marry a prince so can all her fangurls.

You know inspiring like Richard Simmons, and a total bitch on wheels once that ring is on her finger.

These guys keep pointing out all the merchandise tie ins and the likely released to the press photos.

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^ "real" friends as opposed to someone on the payroll?

[quote]she's an aging, moderately-successful actress

I had never heard of her before, she is on a basic cable show and I don't think she has done movies so moderately-successful is being generous.

R64, exactly. I’d only ever heard of the show, and the actors on it. Her name is only known to me because she started “dating” Prince Hot Ginger.

I think now with straight men it comes down to settling down with the one who gives the best head.

The story with his other serious girlfriends is that they didn't like the press attention and it was a dealbreaker for them. So he went out and found thirstiest media whore he could find.

OMG, that bitch is gonna take his load. I'm sooooooooo jealous.

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maybe its harrys bid to bring down the royal family

not signing a pre nup is flat out nuts

u can bet ur ass the queen will have him sign it/ and wifey....or there wont be wedding

queenie don't mess round

I thought Tatler was a friendly publication. How the hell could they think that cover would go over well?

It seems like Harry is making a bold statement in a number of ways. I'm not sure what the statement is - maybe that he intends to do as much in his own way as he possibly can, starting with his choice for a wife. The statement he released to the press about leaving her alone, all the tacky shit she's said to any magazine that will listen, the inappropriate engagement dress she wore. It's possible that he encourages her behavior; at least he doesn't seem to be curtailing it. It's all a major FUCK YOU to the RF, without coming right out and saying FUCK YOU. I think he's still enraged over how they treated his mother.

Oh, and now no prenup. I knew I was forgetting something. Yeah, definitely a major FU.

It is a big fuck you to the RF. At the same time they want all the royal perks like the big royal wedding with the carriage ride. I can't believe how tone deaf they are. Even if he is pissed about what happened to his mother he is making things difficult for his brother by stirring up republican sentiment and that's a shitty thing to do.

[quote]Fun Fact: Jessica Mulroney is the wife of Ben Mulroney, the son of former Conservative Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, So much for the Royals staying "neutral" when it comes to politics.

Fun Fact: Ben Mulroney went to Justin Trudeau's wedding. They are all pals. Sophie Grégoire-Trudeau Was Styled By Jessica Mulroney For The (Trudeau Prime Minister) Swearing-In Ceremony

The best-dressed attendees at last night’s Justin Trudeau-Mexican president Enrique Peña Nieto dinner at Casa Loma. Ben and Jessica Mulroney

Oh, and even if Harry wanted to tell his family to fuck off, he does seem to really love Meg and throwing her to the wolves doesn't make a lot of sense. She is the one taking the brunt of this and I don't think he wants people to hate her. I think they are just both really clueless.

If Harry doesn't want to be a Royal anymore he can say so.

Give up the money and privilege Harry, be free!!!

he jus wants to wring the old queens tit.

u go boy: give the bitch hell

Is the Tatler cover a shot across the bow at her or click bait?

He's a fool. This hussy will make off like a bandit in a few years after she's popped out a couple spawn. Prenup or not, she'll be set for life.

How did she manage to get into such social circles?

R281, the power of the VAGINA is strong. Harry has always been a manwhore.

I think most of the British women he dated had an understanding of the price paid for marriage into the Royal Family and thereafter royal life.

Markle, on the other hand, probably saw the best role she'll ever get her claws on.

R283 yes, Chelsea Davy was a heiress and set for life. Who would want to be torn to shreds 24/7 for money? A whore, that's who! Just ask Melania.

After hearing his clueless, ridiculous comments in Northern Ireland, I realized that those who always said Harry was really dumb were right.

It will be interesting to see what happens after the wedding.

I can't see Charles & Camilla letting Sparkle take all the limelight. Given their access to media and the network that supports C&C, even at the expense of Diana, I'm betting that we'll be seeing a lot less of the Sparkly one. Either that or a lot more negative stories.

Nor will the Queen permit Sparkle to feed her own ego at the expense of the Royal Family.

During a documentary, I saw Harry refer to his grandmother as "The Boss". QEII is tough enough to stop on little old Sparkle when the time comes and Harry may have to pay heed.

I would bet that whatever public events this duo make after the wedding will be pretty controlled.

I have found it very interesting that I haven't seen any lovey "Aunt Sparkle" photos with George and Charlotte. I'm betting that Sparkle would love, love, love those kinds of pictures. Whether it's William or Kate or both who have prevented any such thing, who knows? With Kate doing the photos that are released of her children and with William's negative feelings about the press, I am willing to bet that Harry has been trying but W&K have stymied the media loving Sparkle. Yes, the 2 children will most certainly be a part of the wedding, but most likely with other children so that their pictures are not too many or too much.

Harry goes to party dressed as a Nazi when he was far too old for that shit. He has people he's with taking pictures of him naked at a drunken Las Vegas party. Now he's marrying a 36 year old failed fame whore 'actress' who comes from the Copacabana School of Giving Good Head.

Harry's mother's tragic death as a little boy and the worldwide knowledge that his father was his mentally ill mother's horsey fling has really fucked with his brain and emotional maturity from which he'll never recover. Meghan is like all the seven dwarfs put together working on her diamond mine.

queenie will throw a hissy fit if he don't git her to sign

she will titty beat him into submission.

The cash Prince Henry of Wales received from his mother's estate does not have to be returned., r277.

And why would he give up his privilege?

R285 True. The media attention will be on William and Kate because they will be second in line when Charles becomes a king. Their children will get more attention when they get older. How much do we see and hear from Anne’s Edward’s and Andrew’s children (except the last one’s daughters who are popular here).

Didn't Charles want to take away Beatrice's and Eugenie's titles? Because they weren't in the direct line. By that logic, Harry's child shouldn't be a prince or princess, either.

[quote]After hearing his clueless, ridiculous comments in Northern Ireland

What were his clueless, ridiculous comments in Northern Ireland?

I get the feeling that the Queen is allowing this marriage because Kate is onto baby #3 so there's no chance in hell of one of Sparkle's children becoming King or Queen. Besides, she's used to so many divorces by now, she probably expects it to happen in a few years. Kate will never divorce William, she put way too much effort into snagging him.

Cressida Bonas posted a picture of herself on instagram wearing a sheer blouse and the shortest skirt around, and some other fling of his went topless in a movie.

I just think the difference between Meghan and his other girlfriends is there was no upside to marrying Harry. His other girlfriends already moved in the same circles he does, and had loads of family money. In an article I read about Harry and Chelsey Davey, he complained about how he wished he had more freedom to do and be what he wanted. It pretty much came off that he wished he still had loads of money, but no responsibilities. He wanted to do what he wanted. He didn't want an ordinary life. He wanted the same life his friends had - the freedom of being wealthy but not the pain in the ass of "engagements" - putting on a suit and showing up for stuff.

Meghan, OTOH, had the experience of a dad who was successful in the industry as a lighting designer or whatever on a sitcom and a soap, but ended up bankrupt. Her mom ended up bankrupt. Her family has no money despite being reasonably well-educated. They are no trashier than Harry's family - dress up any of her relatives, the half-siblings, the dad, and make them royal, you'll find their counterpart in the RF, loose lips and complaints included. Meghan has no safety net. Even Kate had a safety net - her family is wealthy enough to charter the private plane that took Kate to Pippa's hen party in France while dropping off William at his dad dancing weekend in the French town where his best friend has a restaurant. If she hadn't ended up with William, she'd have ended up with an aristo or someone rich - and good-looking too, going by her previous boyfriends. Meghan at 36 was/is working every connection she could think of - look at the Mulroney's. Getting Jessica Mulroney's friendship was her biggest score until Harry. But her window was closing. Harry gives her security for life. If it works out - great. If it doesn't work out, she's rich, will always be rich, and can have affairs while they keep up a basic front like Anne and her husband do.

I think both William and Harry inherited their mother's "brains". William could barely manage a damn undergraduate art history course - that's pathetic. He had to be coaxed and persuaded to stay, and only felt comfortable when he switched to geography.

Diana had a notoriously short attention span when it came to instructions, listening, focusing, reading, etc. I believe that, and not being dumb, is why she kept failing her O levels. There was a quote from someone who worked with her who said you had to make it quick or she'd lose interest. Why are both boys such academic duds, yet each seems to feel they're quite intelligent.

Add to that the terrible personal trauma watched by the whole world when they were far too young which cannot be conducive to an ability to concentrate.

I always wondered if that was part of JFK Jr's problem. You carry that with you where ever you go and know that's the first thing everyone thinks of when they see you.

JFK Jr. was 3. Caroline Kennedy, although I don't like her, was an excellent student and academic achiever despite being old enough to remember the assasination and funeral. Her attention span was fine.

I think there's a lot of smoke and mirrors going on with Meghan Markle at the moment. For example, I don't think she's funded yet. I don't think she has a clothing allowance. Her coats and the outfits underneath are high end but don't match, and don't fit her, same with her shoes. Because she's made appearances with the royal family, I believe people presume she's already under the fold, but I bet until she's married she doesn't get a clothing allowance and is allowed to borrow and return clothing the way some do on the red carpet. That'll stop when she and Harry are married, because it's against the rules, but people forget that technically speaking, she's not royal family yet. Kate wore a lot of Zara and mid-market clothing when she was engaged, not the stuff Meghan has on, but it was Kate's own stuff. Also, Kate's family is wealthy, has property. Meghan has nothing. She owns nothing in the states. She went straight from her rental in Toronto to Nottingham Cottage in Kensington Palace, and if they ever broke up she'd have to bunk with friends while she sought another job and found a place to live. Suits has been paying her rent for seven years.

When she and Harry were in Northern Ireland, she was swimming in the coat, the skirt and the top had both been tugged and folded to the back to make them fit. People say, "She needs a good tailor" but that's not what's going on. She's not buying clothes, like Kate. She's borrowing, same clothes-for-PR trade-off red carpet types get. If she does buy anything, I bet she is a "I'll wear it now, pay for it later." situation. I don't think anybody's purse strings, including Harry's, have opened until they're man and wife. The royal family's finances are tricky anyway - old school. They get income, or at least Harry does. Not money of his own, even whatever he inherited.

Harry inherited millions more than his brother because his mother knew that Wills would be King. He's probably worth 50 mill on his own. He is the first second son with his own money in CENTURIES. KM fills the pots of her children to keep them in line. Harry, he is a wild card.

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"Meghan cried with her friends as they watched Diana Spencer's funeral on TV" But she said in the engagement interview that she didn't really know anything about Harry.

Harry is so fucking stupid.

I'm really curious about something.

Did Sparkle really graduate with a double major from Northwestern? While there is a picture of her from her Sorority in one of her earlier years, I've never seen a graduation picture from Northwestern.

Given the great reputation of that school, I would have expected that much would be made of her time there.

But someone recently wrote that her description of her majors were not correct.

Has anyone else any info on this.

Anyone know someone who was at Northwestern at the same time and might have a yearbook picture?

Nobody cared or cares about Caroline Kennedy. She's one of the Kennedy women.

John Jr had a whole different set of expectations, uncertainties and pressures that Caroline would have no personal experience with though I'm sure she felt a great deal of sympathy for him.

He was floundering in front of the entire world and not allowed to do it in private like the rest of us get to do.

He was the last Kennedy hope and mucking it up so badly it ended in more than tears but nightmarish catastrophe.

[quote] I think both William and Harry inherited their mother's "brains". William could barely manage a damn undergraduate art history course - that's pathetic. He had to be coaxed and persuaded to stay, and only felt comfortable when he switched to geography

Oh please. Charles wasn't any smarter than Diana. While Charles may have attended university, he barely graduated. He was only admitted because they made a concession for him since he was the Prince of Wales. He was a C minus student at university. And the only reason he got a C- and not a D or an F is because he was the Prince of Wales. Some teacher gave him some fake "independent study class". That's the only reason he graduated. And even then he still only managed to squeak by and graduate with a C minus.

Prince Edward was so stupid that a professor actually protested when he was admitted to university. One of the York girls was denied admission to some university/college until it was pointed out to a higher up that she was The Queen's grand daughter. She'd have never gotten in on her own merits. William wasn't a particularly good student either.

Harry only graduated Eton because he had a teacher cheat for him. And even with the cheating he got a D. He's lucky he took an art class and some teacher gave him the grade of a B on some shitty art project he did. Otherwise he'd have failed. The Queen only has an 8th or 9th grade education. These people are as dumb as the day is long

I think they are in love, but that it wont end well. Harry is a bit thick. Placed too much emphasis on being the jokester. Sparkle is clearly very very savvy, and has probably already dumbed herself down for that thick as horse shit, butt ugly family. It will end in divorce, but not til several years down the line. Megan will gain many things marrying Harry, but she will also be exposing herself to a degree of snobbery she has never encountered. (from other Royals and from the staff, and Harry's old Eton friends). It will gradually wear her down. Harry will eventually fall out of love, when Megan's looks fade and the kids are no longer adorable. She'll divorce him when his eyes start to wander, and then he will deeply regret not signing a pre up all those moons ago. The end.

Some thought-provoking, intelligent answers from knowledgeable people. How rare, and how refreshing.

Everyone of those royal advisors know this is a future trainwreck and I'm sure they'll know what to do and how to handle Meghan pre nup or not.

She'll do fine and so will Harry.

They're just stocking up on popcorn.

R300 I just read that one of the revelations in the Morton book is going to be that she didn't graduate. If that's true it's probably one of those deals where she's a few credits shy. I guess we'll see. They are going to tease this out for a few weeks until the official release on the 17th, I think.

fuk ur granny harry

run them into the poor house

u above all of em know the necessity to bring them all down...

Thanks, R306. This would not surprise me. A couple of stories had her being an intern in some US Embassy in South America (do I have that right) while she was at Northwestern. And another story mention that at one point she was some credits shy of what was needed to graduate. A third story was that one of the things she claimed as one of her majors (might be International Relations) was not a major course of study at the time. Another that she was a big party girl while at Northwestern.

It's strange to me that none of her college friends have surfaced and the one teacher who commented said she was "respectful" in class. (WTF?)

I know people who have done a double major and that sounds like a heavy work load. Sparkle doesn't strike me as the heavily studious type.

But, given that she's dumped many people on her way, it's not all that surprising that she is no longer in touch with anyone from college.

[quote]R4 He is stupid. He not only should protect his money,

Oh PLEASE!! He will [italic]never[/italic] be short of money in THAT family! He'll always have multiple residences at his disposle with full staff, as well as countless platters of Beef Wellington. Even if he lost everything, he would live like...a prince.

Why do some people here actually believe they are deeply in love. They are both in love with attention nothing more. I won't be surprised if they have no use for eachother when not in public meet and greet. He needs her to keep people more interested in him. Besides he is using her as much as she is using him. Some of you guys need to stop watching Disney fairy tale movies.

Harry and Meagan did not join the Queen and her Easter Church service. They decided to have their own private celebration. However, William and a very pregnant Kate did attend.

R309, just because you can give some whore a huge payout and still live like a prince doesn't mean you'd want to.

R310 I don't see too many people looking at this like some epic love story. Most people see it for what it is. I think Harry is infatuated with her. I think she likes Harry well enough but obviously primarily interested in his title, money and most importantly the attention being with him brings her.

[quote]R312 just because you can give some whore a huge payout and still live like a prince doesn't mean you'd want to [R309]

Obviously he [italic]does[/italic] want to proceed without a prenup, or he would have instigated one. So stop trying to decide what he does and does not "want" to do.

It seems worth mentioning again, as has been posted several times in the thread, pre-nups are *not* legally binding in the UK. It's all up to the Judge in the divorce proceeding.

That said, pre-nups can be introduced as evidence in a divorce proceeding there and the Judge is free to give it whatever weight he deems appropriate in making his decision.

No one is trying to decide what he wants and doesn't want. The "you" is figurative. Just because SOMEONE can afford to pay out a huge divorce settlement doesn't mean they want to. Better?

The article says Harry thinks this marriage is for life and of course we don't know him but it sounds right based on recent behavior. People often proceed on that premise, not with the idea of ever having to pay out. And as others have said, it's possible that his wealth is tied up in trusts making a prenup completely unnecessary.

I wonder if Diana, worrying that Harry might fall victim to a Camilla like vixen, has tied up the funds left to Harry in such a way as to protect her youngest.

Given how Charles was landed hook, line and sinker by Camilla, Diana might very well have done all in her power to be sure that no such thing happened to Harry.

Yeah he is infatuated with the attention she gets him.

[quote]bored out of her mind and dumped on by the Daily Mail every time she tries to have fun.

r39 you could have said the same thing about Diana.

R311 Were they invited? I don’t think they could have said no to Queen. Maybe Queen didn’t want them there, not married yet.

I think they were invited. Just read that Meagan did not choose the Queen's florist. Maybe there's trouble surrounding the wedding arrangements.

Well, she wanted to be like Diana (as if) and now she has her very own Morton book.

Not what she expected, I'll bet.

I'll bet there are some in the Royal Family who are enjoying the irony.

[quote]R315 No one is trying to decide what he wants and doesn't want. The "you" is figurative. Just because SOMEONE can afford to pay out a huge divorce settlement doesn't mean they want to. Better?

My original reply was in response to someone's thought that he should "protect his money". My point is, this prince, for all practical intents and purposes, will always have more money (and lifestyle options) than he will ever, ever need.

If a wealthy person is truly terrified of perhaps having to make a "huge divorce settlement" some day, it is probably best that they simply do not marry. Ever. There aren't any guarantees in life. All divorces involve at least appraising financial holdings...with rich people its simply that the funds in question are larger.

Harry is a silly twit and Sparkle is a scheming twat.

The fawning, incessant media coverage is vomitous. I'm already sick of this bitch and the damn wedding hasn't even happened yet. I'm sure this thread has more truth in it than anything you will find in the mainstream media, either in the US or UK.

I have managed to avoid the news stories. I gather she's a biracial divorcee with a somewhat racy past, but not a really shocking one, either.

Does that about cover it?

And you are still missing the point R322. It doesn't matter that he has more that he would ever need. He's not thinking of it now because he's still giddy over the relationship but marriages fail and feelings change. And just because you can spare it doesn't mean you will want to pay out when a marriage comes to an end and you don't love the person anymore. It's not fun to think of when you are more focused on starting a life with someone but if you have anything worth protecting it is smart to do so. But then no one has ever accused Harry of being smart.

Telling people to just never get married isn't practical. He's not from Monaco where he just have bastards all over the place. If he wants kids they have to be legitimate.

Didn't Diana's brother/Harry's uncle have to pay out for two divorces? If pre-nups aren't legally binding in the UK what can people like the Earl Spencer do to protect their assets?

Oh for fuck's sake, if there's no pre-nup, it's because he doesn't need one. His money is tied up in such a way that will limit any claim she has on it in the event of divorce and, as many people have already pointed out, they are of limited value in the UK.

If lack of a pre-nup was a real issue, there's no way in hell the Queen would consent to this marriage. Granny might dote on her favorite and let him get away with lots of shit, but Granny will cut a bitch who fucks with Windsor money.

I imagine that his money is in trusts, which would be untouchable in a divorce settlement.

Bitch broke up with her first husband by mailing the rings back to him and Harry thinks his marriage with her will be a lasting one.

That's cute.

Staff is going to give her a rough time of it. This will be far more difficult than any cold shoulder the Royals might turn to her.

[quote]R326 Telling people to just never get married isn't practical. He's not from Monaco where he just have bastards all over the place. If he wants kids they have to be legitimate.

Well then, he has to abide by the LAW, including those in divorce court.

What he (or you, really) WANTS isn't really material. Kids WANT to go to bed at midnight.

Tough shit.

WTF are you on about R332? No one is saying he shouldn't abide by the law. You keep arguing against points that aren't being made.

It's not my money so I don't really give a shit what he does. But this is gossip website where we speculate and give our opinions. People are allowed to say what they would do. Or what they think is smart to do. That is NOT the same as saying that's what we WANT him to do. Try some reading comprehension if you are going to continue to reply.

The point made that [italic]"just because you can spare it doesn't mean you will want to pay out when a marriage comes to an end and you don't love the person anymore"[/italic] is an emotionally immature one. That ignores perhaps decades of a couple being together as a unit.

The fact that someone getting divorced wants their ex to end up with nothing doesn't matter. In fact, that's why there are systems in place to guard against divorcing people becoming petty and vindictive in regards to how their mutual finances are divided.

Oh please, all of you pretending that there isn’t a tunnel in France with her name on it when Harry tires of her

It's not emotionally immature. It's realistic. And the reason why pre-nups exist in the first place.

In the US, part of the system includes pre-nups. Apparently in the UK they have trusts. And even if pre-nups aren't binding they are apparently taken into consideration.

There are "systems in place to guard against divorcing people becoming petty and vindictive in regards to how their mutual finances are divided." Yeah, divorces never get nasty. Because of "systems."

Get real.

Again, pre-nups aren't legally binding in the UK. It's up to the Judge who can consider a pre-nup if he considers it relevant. Harry has nothing to worry about.

The interesting thing about this thread is that everyone assumes the marriage will fail. It might or it might not. What if it all works out? And as r335 points out, there are other ways of dealing with the little gold digging slut.

Meghan doesn't exactly have a great track record of sticking with people-friends, family, husbands...dogs. They are all disposable one they no longer serve their purpose.

Sounds like this Morton book is gonna be pretty epic. Some really good dirt already and I doubt they released the juiciest stuff in the first round.

Speaking of dogs - what happened to the pooch who immigrated with Sparkle only to end up with 2 broken legs shortly thereafter?

I thought the Brits were big dog lovers. Why did they let the mystery of the wounded dog fall by the wayside?

Harry is not very bright. He wore a a Nazi armband to a party and it was later said that he had no idea that Nazis were considered offensive. He played strip poker in Las Vegas and pictures of his ass circulated. He said the Royal family is the family that Sparkle "never had." The boy is an idiot. And now he doesn't want a pre-nup? I think he'll live to regret that decision.

[quote]Again, pre-nups aren't legally binding in the UK. It's up to the Judge who can consider a pre-nup if he considers it relevant.

Why do you keep posting this? No one said prenups were legal in England. But you still keep posting this.

[italic]The Truth must be told!

If the royal family ever had an interloper Meghan's the one.

I bet the entire royal staff is going to gaslight her and drive her to a nervous breakdown.

Little Miss Shifty is playing in the big leagues now and she has yet to know how in over her head she is.

Harry is England's village idiot. But he will always be protected.

>> Again, pre-nups aren't legally binding in the UK. It's up to the Judge who can consider a pre-nup if he considers it relevant.

>> >>Why do you keep posting this? No one said prenups were legal in England. But you still keep posting this.

I've posted it twice in the past day or two because people keep posting as if a pre-nup were relevant. It isn't. I may have posted it days ago, as others did, earlier in the thread. I don't remember.

It's to inform the idiots who haven't read the thread and keep posting as if a pre-nup were relevant in the UK. Again, it isn't, unless a judge decides it is. And what UK justice is going to decide against in Prince Harry in Prince Harry vs. US Whore?

^ Excuse me, I meant Prince Harry vs, Divorced Gold Digging US Whore.

Indeed

In the U.S., different states have different laws. My friend married someone very wealthy in NY, but because his wife hadn't made much additional money in the years they were married, when they divorced it's not like he had any claim on what she'd had before marriage.

But in California they have community property laws where, I think, all the couple's assets become one, immediately upon marriage. But even there, there are specific restrictions. For instance, an inheritence recieved during a marriage does not become community property.

Or, something like that.

Harry is a retard and is actually quite angry. He acts out to the limit of what he can do in his position, and marrying this girl who is inappropriate in every conceivable way is an incredible fuck you to the family. He is also quite an attention whore and is much thirstier than William. As soon as he loses the rest of his hair in the next five years and all f us forget him completely, he will realize the mistake he made with Megan. That said, I literally can't believe his father and the Queen are permitting this.

Meghan is not inappropriate in every conceivable way. She's a thirsty famewhore but she's not the only one.

I think the Queen and Charles permitted this wedding cause they know Meghan is the best Harry can do. None of the appropriate aristocratic "English Rose" with money want to marry in the Royal family and even less to Harry. They're not stupid.

You gonna see that generation after generation, the Royals gonna marry trashier and trashier and it started with William and Harry, even if I kind of like Kate.

[quote]R349 I literally can't believe his father and the Queen are permitting this.

Well, conceivably, what could they do?

What exactly do you like about Kate? She is pretty in nothing more than a US TV commercial house wife mops the floor way and pumps out babies like a brood mare.

She needs a veterinarian not a Dr.

R352 Meghan's fans are so pressed and bitter.

Meghan dear, try as you might, no one comes close to Diana.

[quote]Were they invited? I don’t think they could have said no to Queen.

One of the things they consider is press coverage. At this juncture, in advance of the wedding, Meagain would have upstaged the Queen in the coverage. That doesn't happen. So a polite decision was made that they would not attend.

[quote]Meghan doesn't exactly have a great track record of sticking with people-friends, family, husbands...dogs. They are all disposable one they no longer serve their purpose.

Except where does she go from the Royal Family? She can't use her royal fame to return to acting because she doesn't have the talent and even if she did she'd get begrudging praise at best. If it comes to picking sides, few will pick hers. She's got a limited shelf life as an acting commodity.

Besides all that sounds too much like work. The only thing left is a billionaire of some description, where she gets the luxury lifestyle, truly unlimited shopping and no work requirements at all.

The thing is - and this would be the pretty carpetbagger's difficult choice - she won't take the crowds and pomp and ceremony and curtseys with her if she divorces. So can the ego live without the attention?

It will be fascinating and probably sad to watch the next five or ten years. It doesn't really matter. They're secondary players. I think Kate has a lot of the Queen Mother in her - which is a fairly ruthless streak in defence of what she prizes. Now that's the institution - for her husband and for her son. How can there not be a Cold War between Kate and Meagain and who wins? The one closest to the throne. The question is where does Meagain wind up: Duchess of Windsor 2.0 or the former Duchess of Windsor, who in 2027 married the Russian oligarch Boris Kalishnikov.

R128

The older dog, Bogart, belongs to the Chef. He wouldn't allow Bogart to move to London. Meghan should have just been honest about it.

Not a peep about the poor other pup that broke both legs. A lot of people online are speculating that he died but of course there is no way to know. After the story a lot of people just wanted to know if he was ok. It would have been nice if they shared an update. Unfortunately the fact that they didn't makes me fear for the worst for the little guy.

[quote]None of the appropriate aristocratic "English Rose" with money want to marry in the Royal family and even less to Harry. They're not stupid.

That's the problem. "Suitable" young women don't want to marry into the Royal family, and who could blame them? If you're already set for life, why would you want all the hassles, complete lack of privacy and endless, boring duties when you could be on a yacht in the Mediterranean and just fucking off and doing as you please? When you have that kind of money and lifestyle, being a part of the Royal family would be totally unappealing.

And Harry is such a spoiled rotten, self-indulgent man-child, being with him would be unbearable after a while.

Diana married Charles cause she was dumb, it started with her.

Diana was a naïve 19 year old who had little idea of what she was getting into. Then suddenly with seemingly little effort(because you either have it or you don't) she turns into a superstar which annoyed the fuck out of pedestrian boring Charles who as heir to the throne should have had everyone paying attention to him. The problem was nobody gave a shit about the man. He could have been a gardener at Balmoral for all the interest he brings out in people.

This happened all so suddenly and she found herself disliked and resented by her husband at such an early age this truly fucked with her head. Then her boys have to deal in such a traumatizing way with her gruesome death at such a young age and you really do not have the conditions for their life long mental health.

Diana’s age is certainly something to be take into consideration. She might have become media savvy and scheming later, but I do believe that back then she was simply charmed by the fact that the Prince of Wales courted her and mistook that for being in love.

I even think Charles did like her in a “pretty young woman who idiolises me” kind of way and possibly thought for a fleeting moment this could actually work.

Of course the rose-tinted glasses came off quickly, on both sides.

Neither Waity Katie nor Sparkles have that excuse.

She came from the emotional insecurity of a broken home then while still an adolescent entered suddenly into a fairytale which then then quickly turned into a nightmare. People then complain she was a manipulative phony. Well who wouldn't be? It's a wonder she didn't become an alcoholic or drug abuser.

I think there's a genetic component to this, in the Windsor Family--it came out when the Prince of Wales insisted on marrying Wallis Simpson (who was totally inappropriate)--and now Meghan. These Windsor men get so erotically fixated that they lose their minds and won't listen to anyone.....It bursts out every few generations. Thank heavens Harry isn't in the running to be king--that would have been a real mess.

I am speculating like crazy, but I do think there is a damaged, needy boy still inside the man and Meagain has tapped into that to her ambitious advantage. She's probably fucked up too... child of divorce, divorced herself, actress....

Chelsea Davy was probably too early on the scene... they were wild child together... the later girlfriends probably wanted more than to be a therapist in a gilded cage.

Diana was the last aristocrat to marry into that horrible family. The English gentry rightly view them as vulgar arrivistes (Diana is far more blue blooded than Charles) who offer no benefit and plenty of pain by association with them. Much better for grasping, middlebrow fraus like Kate Middleton, that piece of Nazi spawned trash Princess Michael of Kent, and an actress (akin to a prostitute a century ago) get their hands on these inbred nitwits (I mean, Victoria and Albert were FIRST cousins, and even Liz and Phil are closely related; this family belongs in Appalachia not Mayfair). They need the money and/or attention, so they can put up with the attendant grief of being married to this collection of fools.

I know everybody likes to bash William and Kate as lazy... in fact I think their lifestyle has been very much approved by the Queen, who is known to regard her life in Malta as the wife of a Navy man and young mother as one of the happiest and most 'normal' (for that lot) and who was made into even a more remote figure in her children's lives by becoming Queen at 25. Kate and William are being given a lot of opportunity and slack while they have a young family.

I also think William was probably quite scarred by his parents divorce (and the acrimonious years where the marriage collapsed into open war.). From everything I have read about Kate Middleton she is self possessed, self assured and grounded. By all accounts William enjoyed the family dynamic within the Middletons.... they may be climbers, for all we know (and they're self made... the Daily Mail may have helped brand the rest of their reputation, as it will Meagain's in due course), but apparently they're quite an agreeable, happy collection of climbers who really get on en famille. The Windsors they ain't. If she did nail him to become Queen and take on the life by all accounts she is also a loyal, loving and good wife to him... whatever he may or may not have sensed about her ambition he no doubt also saw the opportunity to forge the antithesis of his parents' marriage.

I've always felt that part of the success of the William & Kate dynamic is her family.

In spite of the slings and arrows pitched in their direction because of the background and class, the Middletons seem to have stuck together and appear to be close-knit. And William's continued choice to spend so much time with his wife's family vs his own (his father & Camilla and Camilla's kids) speaks volumes.

Charles' complaints and his dislike of Carol Middleton because she spends so much time with her grandchildren shows how out of touch he really is.

I'm sure that William has very clear memories of which of his parents was the one who as there when he was hospitalized as a boy and he wants his children to grow up in a family as far removed from the one he grew up in as possible.

Harry's teaming up with Sparkle will more than likely reduce the amount of time he spends with William and Kate because it seems very unlikely that the Middletons will open their closed clan to include Sparkle whose past history should serve as a warning to anyone who can read the handwriting on the wall that she is not someone to be trusted and certainly not someone to invite into your inner circle.

[quote]Lady Sarah was the eldest of the four Spencer children and widely rumored to be the cleverest. In a recently released Diana biography by Sarah Bradford, the Lady Sarah is described as being “hero-worshipped” by the young Princess. She was a close confidante of Diana's and even introduced her to Prince Charles.

[quote]Lady Sarah had briefly dated Charles in 1977, but fully approved of her sister's relationship with the future monarch.

[quote]“I introduced them, I’m cupid,” she reportedly said, shortly after Charles and Diana's engagement was announced in 1981.

[quote]Lady Jane's husband Robert Fellowes was Private Secretary to the Queen from 1990 to 1999. This influential job involved being the main channel of communication between the monarch and government, as well as overseeing the Queen’s program and correspondence. It has been suggested by some royal biographers that Jane’s position as both Diana’s sister and Robert’s wife left her in a difficult position when Charles and Diana's marriage was ending.

[quote]Lady Jane took the title of Baroness in 1999, when her husband was appointed a Baron and inducted into the House of Lords.

I added those quotes to offset, a bit, the assumption that Diana was a naïf. She came from an aristocratic family. Her father was married in Westminster Abbey, and the Queen and other members of the royal family attended the wedding. Her older sister had dated Charles, and introduced Diana to him. Instead, I would assert that Diana was a largely directionless woman who made a rash decision, which she came to regret.

And I agree with R366's point, as I remember the Queen was happiest when she lived in Malta, and could shop and visit the beauty salon with other military wives.

Funny how Diana was so attractive yet her sisters were a couple of hags.

No need for a prenup. The Royal Machine will just have her killed if she causes any trouble. Just like the last one...

Megs wants to be just like Diana. Except for that dead in a tunnel at 36 part. She doesn't want that.

She may have been dumb, R359, but not so dumb that she’d use “cause” when she should have used “because”.

Meghan is already 36 (at least officially; unofficially, I'd be getting a fertility test if I were Harry). Not much time for Liz to organise a hit.

[quote]r370 No need for a prenup. The Royal Machine will just have her killed if she causes any trouble. Just like the last one...

You just know this bitch orchestrated it.

When do we get [italic]that[/italic] movie?

Meghan is a good match for Harry. They both like to have fun but also are committed to charity work. They both like the spotlight.

I seriously doubt that anyone paid anything for the $75,0000 Ralph&Russo black dress that Meghan wore for the engagement photos. It was either borrowed and returned or given as a gift by the designer. Meghan looked stunning in it.

Chances are that Tamara Russo is making Meghan's wedding dress.

The poster upthread who said Meghan's clothes have been ill-fitting because they are borrowed, makes perfect sense. It's the reason why the "X" white cotton thread was mistakenly not removed from the pleat of that one jacket Meghan wore.

The wedding is monstrously expensive due to the security costs but the UK will profit from tourism and memorabilia associated w/ the wedding. It sounds like Harry and Meghan are trying to include lots of charity organizations and disadvantaged kids in the celebration.

They aren't using the Queen's florist. The florist they have chosen has been instructed to use flowers and vines natural to Windsor and even pick them from the Windsor Castle grounds.

Anytime Meghan wears clothes + accessories from UK , Canadian, &other Commonwealth nations, it helps those businesses many of which are small businesses - the jeans people, etc.

I hate the acorn hats and the wrap bathrobe coats that make Meghan look fat when she isn't. I don't care for the purses either. But she's a pretty woman and I like how she's making a statement by telegraphing her interests in supporting her causes.

Her background as a biracial actress helps her in many ways. She's a warm presence, brings out the best in Harry, and represents a role model and voice for the minority Brits and immigrants.

Her mom and dad seem like very nice people. The relatives on her mom's side seem nice. Meghan has no control over her trashy dad's side relatives. How about Pippa's father-in-law being charged w/ rape? That's worse than Meghan's disabled loudmouth, bitchy half-sister or drunken, abusive half-brother.

I agree with above poster who said the Middletons brought stability to William. They seem like a nice, nurturing family.George and Charlotte are adorable. Kate and William are boring but that's ok.

I doubt the Harry/Meghan wedding will boost tourism.

They already said that some people won't go to London during the wedding to avoid the crazy Royal fans.

I think some people overestimate Meghan's influence. Most people don't give a fuck about her and Harry. She won't be the revolution some people think cause you know whe's BIRACIAL and AMERICAN, as if it could save the Monarchy.

And the thing is that the Monarchy doesn't need to be saved cause people are ok with Will being the King.

I wonder what Princess Anne said to warrant this look from the Queen. Or is the Queen looking past Princess Anne?

The merchandising will be big for the wedding if not the tourism. Everything Meghan wears sells out.

Dolls, porcelain dishes, and tchotchkes will be big.

William and Kate wedding dolls. This is a better-looking set. Some are kind of freaky-- Kate's head is too big on one set.

I wish William and Harry would get Hair Club for Men, transplants or at least Harry can spray paint his bald spots for now.

William had a very quick decent in losing his looks (and hair).

The only thing is the future which gonna boost the Royal merchandising is the death of the Queen.

THAT gonna be huge.

Here is a scary version of William and Kate. He looks like one of those toothy English comedians from the 60s. The Kate doll looks more like Danniela Westbrook with its big, flat head more than it looks like Kate

The Danbury Mint Prince Charles doll looks more like Gabriel Byrne than Charles.

I imagine the Meghan Markle wedding doll will be fabulous. Many of the black fashion dolls look much prettier than their white counterparts.

[quote] I've posted it twice in the past day or two because people keep posting as if a pre-nup were relevant

But they are relevant in England. There are many, many cases that have set a precedence. English judges are accepting prenups that were written in other countries, but used in divorce cases in England. And no British judge has turned down a prenup. There isn't a lawyer in the entire UK who would tell their client, "don't worry about it prenups aren't relevant, they're useless". Not a single one

But of course the royal family has many ways of making someone settle. For instance, Meghan won't be able to take her children out of the country to live somewhere else without the Sovereign's permission

Harry's money must be in some Trust. No way, the Royal family and the Queen trust the idiot of the village with his money.

Anyway, Meghan is after the fame, the social status and the glory, not the money. She want to be Diana 2.0 and good luck with that.

r393, I can only assume that you deliberately decided to omit that I also posted that a UK Justice can take a pre-nup into evidence and give it the weight he/she thinks it deserves in making his/her decision.

Troll.

^ Sorry, r383, not r393.

Lol, watching how Meghan Sugars (Meghan's fangurls, I didn't know they had a name) are pressed I want to read this fucking book.

I hope all the RF gonna read it before the wedding, just to see their look when Sparkle and DumbHarry gonna say "yes".

R375 Kensington Palace released a statement verifying the $75,000 engagement dress was "privately purchased" so that particular dress was not gifted or borrowed.

Royals aren't allowed to take freebies from designers. There might be some wiggle room with Meg since she's not technically a royal yet. I'm sure her stylist, Jessica Mulroney, knowing she'd need a ton of new clothes, did pull together a huge wardrobe for her before she moved to London and obtained a bunch of samples for her. But I also think part of the reason her clothes don't fit is because she lost a lot of weight leading up to the engagement announcement and a little more since then. Either way, she should get the correct size or she should have her clothes tailored to fit properly. She often looks sloppy, with pants too short or too long, swimming in her coats, In Ireland her skirt and sweater were bunched up in the back in some effort to get them to fit. They do have tailors in London. She should use them so she looks more polished.

Yeah, it was privately purchased for 75$.

I wonder how cheap is Harry to let his fiancée in ill-fitted clothes.

The ill fitting clothes are interesting, though, in that either nobody's giving her any advice or guidance (so great 'friend' Kate or benevolent Camilla aren't ringing up with any suggestions) or somebody isn't listening. I bet Meagain hates that she hasn't the staff.

I can't get through all 390 posts, but I don't believe it at all. The reason I don't believe it is because The Firm will insist on it. It is standard operation procedure. He has no choice. He has to protect the interests of the Crown and his heirs. Period. This is tabloid bullshit drummed up because they need to find something to write about in the Lull before the wedding. It'll be interesting to compare this coverage to the way they covered Katherine Middleton, who was also a wealthy commoner.

It's ill-fitting cause it would cost actual money to go to a tailor to have good fitting clothes, that's all.

From what I understand, the Queen, Camilla and Anne have most of their clothes custom made which is why their clothes fit properly. (Camilla needs a better bra, but that's a different story...)

Kate and the younger royal women buy most of their clothes retail. Kate is built in such a way that clothes off the rack probably don't need much tailoring. She's tall and slim so she always looks good in whatever she's wearing and everything fits well. Her clothes even fit properly when she's heavily pregnant so there is no excuse for Meghan's clothes not fitting.

Most women are not built like Kate and need a little altering to get the best fit. Meg is oddly shaped with skinny legs and a boxy middle, so it's much less likely clothes off the rack are going to fit her properly. She should know this after working on Suits where everything was altered to fit her. Meghan's best friend is supposed to be her stylist. Everyone knows who is putting that wardrobe together you'd think that Jessica would want everything Meg wears to fit correctly because it's a reflection upon her as a stylist.

Yes, getting clothes altered takes some time and money but what else do they have to do all day? Diana's clothes always fit her (she was another one who was tall and slim...) and if Meghan wants to be a fashion icon like Diana she needs to stop looking so sloppy in her clothes.

She will never be Diana and the better she move on from that delusion. Diana had a unique look to her and Meghan is basic looking, girls that look like her are common. She needs to create her own signature image and stop trying to mimic her deceased step mother. There is nothing original about this chick, she is such a phony. That explains why she has no real friends or family connection besides her mother. The media pr stories about her having total control over her wedding plans are bullshit and I sure not the only one sick of reading about this bitch. The only site I click for Meghan stories is dl.

Oh, and as a stylist JM should know what silhouettes are most flattering for Meghan's shape. All of those over-sized bathrobe coats that tie in the middle just draw attention to her biggest problem area-her thick middle. Maybe she wears them because that's what she could get for free but they don't look good on her. Oh well, heavy coat season is almost over. Maybe next year she'll do better.

Diana was a phenomenon partly because she was from a time when all we had was print media and a handful of tv channels. Nobody could be the huge superstar Diana was in this age of so many choices.

[quote]She ended their marriage 'totally out of the blue', sending their rings in the mail after taking the £360 blender from their West Hollywood home before moving to Toronto.

Do you think she uses that blender?

Those green vitamin juices don't make themselves.

It's not just her clothes that don't fit, it's her shoes. They are too big for her feet.

The media don't mention it, but when they do the hype for the designers, there are photos of her wearing the shoes. It's pretty clear that not just at the heel, but also at the instep, the the shoes are the wrong size.

I have been wondering if her clinging to Harry is so that she doesn't fall on her face.

Ill-fitting clothes and shoes are a telltale sign of merching and/or freebies. I don't give a fuck what KP says, it's not as though they'd confirm it anyway.

What she's going to need to look good is someone who is in the know as to what kinds of clothes work for the RF. What colors to wear and not to wear.

Hint to Sparkle: Wearing the colors of the Republic of Ireland when visiting Northern Ireland is insulting to both countries and shows everyone that you are a clueless nitwit.

You don't get to hire just anyone when you are a member of the RF.

Kate doesn't buy most of her clothes "off the rack." That's an illusion. She buys from famous local fashion houses, but the clothes are customized specifically for her. Part of her job is to highlight local fashion and she does it well, but her personal attire for pubic appearances and formal occasions is made specifically for her. Think of her as a Runway model for the UK fashion industry. Meaghan will also fulfill a similar role. Yes, Anne Camilla and Her Majesty, Betty Windsor's clothes are all custom made and you may try to replicate them, but you will never buy them off the rack.

Wanted to add that I think Kate & Meaghan will imitate Michelle Obama in that respect. Some of Michelle's clothes were off the rack, particularly her every day personal business attire and casual clothes. but more and more, especially for her many appearances, she was wearing things that may have been part of some particular line of fashion but were "not available in stores" at the time. Often created specifically for her.

In the basement of Buckingham Palace there are little elves who sew and cut and pin and style all of her majesty's garments.

But Kate also smartly recycles a lot of her clothes, and especially her shoes. She and Will have been pretty good at creating the illusion they live relatively modestly. As opposed to Charles and Camilla, who could give a fuck.

Of course Kate wears a lot of high end and custom clothes especially for very high profile events but she even more often wears clothes from High Street shops.

Yes, R47, they are from High Street ships, but they aren't really from High Street shops. My guess is she gets them well before they are available to the general public. I think her casual attire for every day probably is off the rack. Kate is skilled (with the help of an aide) at mixing them well.

Kate does have a stylist. And she does have clothes altered when necessary but since she has a more “standard” figure clothes are more likely to fit her without needing alterations.

I don’t have a problem with Meg acquiring as many freebies as she can. She needs a pretty big wardrobe and with the exception of the engagement dress and her wedding dress I’d assume she doesn’t have access to a royal allowance for her clothes yet. But there is no excuse for not getting her clothes altered to fit properly.

As far as her shoes go. It sometimes looks like one foot is bigger than the other so that might be part of the problem. Sometimes shoes can fit a little differently after weight loss as well. If it was just that she got samples that were too big, well she should put inserts in the shoes so they fit better.

The posters at the Temple of Sparkle over at Celebitchy (LINKED AT R387) are so willing to bend themselves into pretzels attempting to excuse anything that Saint Megs does that they're now accusing her ex-husband of abuse, with absolutely no proof beyond that she mailed back her rings.

They're so brainwashed and delusional (apparently because she presents herself as a "humanitarian" Woman of Color) in their fandom, that they're just like Trump voters.

Meanwhile on one of the royal gossip forums, a moderator, who claims to know people who know Megs, says she's a user, but all you have to do is look at her track record (where are her dogs?!?!?) to figure that out.

From the royal gossip forum: [quote]If I, a nobody, have already heard from those she worked with that she's a heartless b*^ch, I'm sure it'll be easier for a published author facing bitter ex-associates of hers.

Sparkles broke the cardinal rule in ruthless ambition by being too unkind and helping herself at others' expense, which is her style. I have never heard one person say she ever helped anyone but herself.

I’ve seen the “sugars” accusing Trevor of cheating too. He supposedly was cheating with her childhood friend. That way they can smear them both at the same time.

Megs was the one cheating with a hockey player and who knows who else. And she cheated on Cory with Harry.

But to her sugars she can do no wrong.

The mental gymnastics the Sugars must do to justify her every move.

I wonder what they gonna invent when they realize she never graduated at University, that her professor was harassing her?

I haven’t ventured over to any sugar sites but it might be fun to have a front seat to the meltdowns they all must be having over the Morton book.

They're just in denial, the head deep in her ass.

They gonna tell you people are just jealous of their Biracial American Princess and that everything negative is just a lie.

I didn't see any melt down at Celebitchy - yet. Right now they are still in worship mode and like R410 said, they are mostly trying to rationalize Megs dropping her first husband like a hot potato by speculating that she mailed back the rings because she was so afraid (due to the horrible abuse her husband inflicted upon her) she was 'too scared' to break up with him face to face.

They really are like Trump supporters. It will be very interesting to see when the turn around will happen. Although with that site - Kaiser is the queen bee and Head Team Sparkle Mom and she'll delete any and all posts that don't agree with her batshit opinions.

She has way too many people coming out of the woodwork to say she's an asshole and it would seem her only close friends are other Hollywood/social climbing types she rubbed elbows with in Canada and LA. The common denominator seems to be she's a schemer who kisses up and kicks down.

What's disturbing about Celebitchy is that the posters and Head Frump Kaiser will gang up and hurl charges of racism at anyone who doesn't blindly worship at the altar of Megs. It's the same kind of mindless and vicious attacks that Trump voters engage in, except from the opposite side of the political spectrum.

It's like in the US in 2018, we're not allowed to differ from the hive mind, whichever side of the political spectrum it's coming from, even on a gossip site.

The comments over at the DM are pretty overwhelmingly against her and her supporters there like to claim that DM readers are just racist haters and they don’t represent the overwhelming sentiment about Meghan which is according to them overall positive.

For those who sample a bunch of different sites, what do you see? For the most part, except for a few royal Facebook groups where they don’t allow negative comments in general, most of what I have seen has been pretty negative.

Prince Philip is undergoing hip surgery. At 96.

I am betting he won't be at the wedding.

Meghan is a disaster waiting to happen . Fergie 2.0 . Like they said put out the popcorn . When she’s pregnant Harry will have affaires with blondes .

You can usually pick out the "I love Sparkle" posters because they are apt to trash Kate while ass kissing Sparkle. I'm not exactly sure why.

The anti Sparkle posters usually focus on her past life and the shortness of her acquaintance with Harry. (The "Marry in Haste, Repent at Leisure" posters. the "She's a Climber" posters, the "She's Divorced and jumped from man to man" posters.

Then there are the "Down with the Monarchy" group who see Sparkle as a means to and end.

Then there are the "Pass the Popcorn because we are loving this trashy soap opera" posters.

And we must not forget the "What happened to the dog with the 2 broken legs?" posters.

It's quite a show.

That's what's so funny about this. She wants so desperately to be Diana 2.0 and she's gonna be Fergie 2.0 at best.

The Queen loans Kate a lot of her jewelry, including that prized diamond bracelet Phillip gave the Queen on their wedding day. Let's see if Meghan gets that kind of lavishment from the Queen as much--THAT will be telling.

I will laugh so hard if crusty old racist Phillip and his busted hip upstage this wedding.

And there will never be another Diana. Meghan herself falls supremely short, but she couldn't be that phenomenon even if she didn't. Diana came along after the British monarchy had been stale for over 2 decades. Charles had a little bit of attention as the world's most eligible bachelor, but he really was too stuffy and boring to make much of it. There hadn't been any real fanfare since the Queen's wedding and bearing children of her own. In the 70s, the royal family dominating headlines were the Monacos, and in the US we had the Kennedys and Onassises. Nobody gave a shit about the Windsors for a long time until Diana came along. She was young, pretty, shy, and... gasp! a virgin! Like a textbook princess. And then it turned out she could be quite charming and glamorous as well. And then she gives her country not just an heir but a spare. She basically injected some desperately-needed adrenaline into a comatose institution.

Meghan is divorced, older than Harry, a middling success on her own, and, frankly, kind of bland. She's marrying the 6th in line, not the current or future Prince of Wales. She's coming in after 3+ decades of the British monarchy being too much in the tabloids and press. The Queen with her steady no-nonsense demeanor is at the height of her popularity. Nobody is looking for a Diana now, they want some calm and normalcy. And for the monarchy to, if not disappear completely, at least fade into the background. And most of all they want Diana's boys to settle down and be happy. Which is why Kate is actually quite popular--rather than try to emulate Diana, she's emulating the Queen and doing her duty by presenting as a excellent wife and mother. If Meghan tries to be Diana, it will backfire big time. First because she just isn't and second because no one wants or needs that.

Poor Philip. He just might meet the same fate as that poor pup with the two broken legs.

Oh well, he had a good life.

RIP.

Please, Lord, if he's got to, let him go Friday, May 18th.

On the topic of Kate vs Meghan:

This is the best that could have happened to Kate. Next to Meghan she actually looks regal, professional and even less of a social climber.

She must be extatic.

I think it possible that the reason Sparkle & Harry were not at the Easter Services with the Queen is because... The Queen does not want to be photographed with Sparkle until absolutely necessary.

I could be wrong, but I don't recall seeing any photos of Sparkle actually in the same picture as the Queen.

They were both at Christmas services, but the Queen came by car while the others walked.

Have I missed an actual photo of the 2 of them side by side, together?

They were photographed together at that recent church service where Harry was making faces and she was giggling. In different rows but close enough to be in the same frame.

Apparently Harry hasn't attended Easter service with the family since he was a kid. So if he attended it would have been out of the ordinary.

....

I suspect Harry got chewed out by his grandmother for his shenanigans (and Sparkle's) at the Commonwealth Day service held at Westminster Abbey earlier this month.

That would not have been at all acceptable behavior.

And wasn't that Sparkle's first official appearance with the Queen?

Not off to a very good start with the person Harry refers to as "The Boss".

[quote]r405 In the basement of Buckingham Palace there are little elves who sew and cut and pin and style all of her majesty's garments.

For the very fine stitching that might show, they also use special mice.

(They don't have a union, so they can be pressed into doing a lot of last minute stuff for cheap, too. It's really quite sad.)

I love that the Daily Fail finally acts like the Daily Fail and publish all those stories about Meghan.

I can't believe they protected her all this time. Those people are hyenas.

As an aside I'd like to point out to you that Megs isn't the only one who may have approached this linking up with Harry with a bit of calculation. Katie Cambridge (nee Middleton) changed colleges so she could go to St. Andrews at the same time WIlliam did. She was, in fact very methodical about getting with William. Of course they love one another and seem happy, but if Meaghan is going to be pilloried for being a calculating heifer, then please include HRH Katherine, Duchess of Cambridge in that discussion.

Everybody knows that about Kate but Kate didn't act like she didn't know who William was. She wanted her Prince and got it.

Meghan wants to look ingenuous with the great love story but she appears for what she is: a gold digger.

This thread is full of spite and hatefulness. All this speculation treated like fact. It is pathetic.

R435 I totally agree! It’s so pathetic! As if anyone posting on here has any clue what goes on in the Royal Family - it’s ridiculous.

Lol, it's datalounge.

And of course R436 and R435 know exactly what is going on in the Royal Family.

Did you forget where you are posting R435 and R436? If you cant handle gossip and pointless bitchery, which is what this place is for, then fuck off to some sugar site where anything that's not fawning over Meghan gets deleted.

I think R435 and R436 will feel at ease on Celebitchy.

Once again, the "I Love Sparkle" crowd must attack Kate. You guys are soooo predictable.

Everyone already knows Kate's story. But William and Kate knew each other for 7 years before they got married. They broke up once and got back together. After 7 years, I think it's fair to assume people know each other and can judge their compatibility. There was no surprise when they decided to marry.

Sparkle and Harry have known each other a fraction of that time, not even a year. And then, they were not living in the same country, much less the same place.

Marry in Haste, Repent at Leisure.

There is nothing wrong with Philip's hip.

He will do everything possible to avoid watching American social climbing trash marry into the Royal family.

Expect Queen Elizabeth to fall off a horse.

Meghan apparently went back to LA to see her mom over Easter while Harry went elswhere.

Since she moved in with him how much time have they spent just living together doing ordinary day to day stuff? Their whole relationship was long distance and one vacation after another and then even after she moved to England they have spent that whole time traveling, sometimes separately. Maybe it won’t matter since they are likely to keep up that lifestyle after the wedding but it doesn’t seem to be the best way to really get to know what life with someone is going to be like.

Kate and her scheming family are completely worthless too, R440. Because of the way the Middletons set up their company, their finances aren't public, but no one in their right mind would believe that the Middleton life of excess came from selling cheap party tat, which can be found in the UK equivalent of the Dollar Store. It's much more likely that Kate's shady, druggie, wife-beating uncle funded the Middleton's social ascent, as he actually does have money.

And then William or Charles probably chipped in on the new Middleton Manor.

Kate's finally making a few appearances, and is being praised for getting herself together a few times a week to grin manically at the peasants while she pretends to care about their concerns. In return, she gets a life of unimaginable luxury.

That being said, I doubt that Kate's a narcissist on the scale of Sparkle, I doubt that she herself is a grifter per se because her mom did all the hard graft, and I think that she probably did end up genuinely caring for William.

Sparkle might have some sort of genuine sexual frisson with Harry, but she's not going to be satisfied with him for long. But that won't matter, because she's going to get out of this exactly what she wants - attention, on a scale that the vast majority of other actors can only dream of.

For instance: Sparkle had some little kid curtseying to her. So much for her oft-boasted about humanitarianism. That should mortify her as an American.

But for a narcissist, attention, waves of undeserved admiration, is more important than anything else. Although I'm sure the tiaras, luxury vacations and unlimited clothing budget count for something too.

How the hell does he have a $41 million fortune? Inheritance?

R443 this is the first I’ve heard any info like this about the Middleton’s. Any more info? I always did wonder how they got so stinking rich selling balloons and party favors.

Lol...

Who ever has a rich uncle who is willing to fund an entire family's social life, homes, etc. for years?

Puhleeze.

Given how long Kate was associated with William before they married and with the snark flung in her family's direction during those years and years, any such druggie associates would have long ago been exposed.

That would have been a real story. And worth telling long before Kate and William married. They certainly knew each other long enough for the muckrakers to have shouted such a story from the rooftops.

R443 belongs over with the other Sugars.

ROYAL WEDDING UPDATE: Invited to the nuptials- President Obama and First Lady Michelle. Also invited- Bill and Hilary Clinton. Not Invited-Trumps!

Ha! Some of he stuff about her online is brutal!

“I think Meghan Markle will be a household name one day but not for the reason she thinks. Her name will be synonymous with catfishing and being con artist. Like someone who is being conned is being Markled.“

R447, You must be a newbie. Carol(e) and her brother are both extremely ambitions, as was their mother. Kate's uncle boasted about having a Middleton wing at one of the palaces once Kate married William.

And Kate's uncle is on videotape IIRC with the drugs - cocaine IIRC. IIRC he's also been recorded (I think audio only) offering underage girls, but I might be not remembering that correctly.

Kate's uncle was recently arrested for beating his wife in public, and was also recently caught urinating in public. It was in the Daily Mail (photos).

And seriously, "Sugar"? It's very apparent from my posts that I can't stand the idea that idea that anyone should be seen as better than anyone else because of an accident of birth. I dislike all these useless fops, as well as the scheming gold-diggers who marry into the ultimate grift called the aristocracy, but especially the monarchy because they are grifting off of hard-working tax payers.

R445 Because of the way the Middleton's company is set up, it is impossible to tell where the Middleton's apparent tens of millions came from, but there have been press analysis of competing party supply companies, the market, etc., and the consensus is that it would be almost impossible for the Middletons to be as rich as they appear to be. If you do a little digging you will see it all.

^ Harriet Harman or Jeremy Corbyn... haven't quite finished assessing the extent of her swivel eyed lunacy.

R444, he inherited the money from Diana, who got a substantial divorce settlement from Charles.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

When reached for comment about this matter Kate responded “I don’t know these people” and William commented that the Matthews were “the family Pippa never had.”

R447 I read about that years ago, the premise is that Uncle Gary was laundering his drug money through the party tat shop. I have no idea if that’s true or not but there were definitely questions over how fast her family achieved that amount of money from nothing.

A Brit and an American were standing on a street corner when a well dressed man was driven past in a luxury car.

The American said: Someday, I'm going to have a car like that.

The Brit said: Someday, I'm going to pass a bill to take that car away from him.

You're the one with the serf complex, R453... I think the posh are good value.

Your council flat, on the other hand, can be smelled from here.

Kate’s father had a wealthy grandmother and he inherited some money that was left in trust. You can look her up. Why is that hard to believe and why is it hard to believe their party supply company was successful?

I'm not getting you, Limey @ R456.

Americans, like myself, hate the idea of inherited and generational power, and even more hate the idea of supporting already-wealthy grifters solely because they came out of a lucky vagina. We fought a revolution over it, but apparently you missed that history lesson given that you seem not to have finished grammar school.

Whereas you not only accept, but relish, being the tax slave of your "aristocratic" overlords, and yet think that you are endorsing some sort of meritocracy?

A bit light-headed, are we? Maybe you should ask Master to up your gruel?

You ask for me, R458. Your fantasy life is far richer than mine.

It's going to be an open carriage gaudy parade?! He's not heir to the throne.

Why can't they just have a small chapel wedding?

In other words he's just another smug entitled royal shit.

He's always looked bored riding in those open carriage parades.

I'm betting it was Sparkle's idea.

But I'm loving that the Queen put the kibosh on a London wedding so we are spared the tour around London in the carriage. Windsor isn't that big.

Will she be blowing kisses to the crowd? Will she use the "royal" wave? Will she wave a lace hankie? Will she throw out her garter to the bystanders? Will they throw it back?

Inquiring Minds want to know.

Will Meghan and her bridesmaids go to a pub after the wedding ceremony?

The Middletons' company was never believed to be the main source of their wealth, the press just enjoyed saying that they'd made their money through it, presumably to try and emphasise how common they are.

Most of it was actually inherited through a huge trust set up by Kate's great-grandfather, who was a major property developer that put his assets in trust before he died. The entire family, including cousins, aunts and uncles, are extremely wealthy and were born into it.

I have no idea idea what planet R458 is living on. The US is ruled by an establishment of powerful families living on inherited wealth, and has been for generations. What the fuck are you talking about?

I find the "We Love Sparkle" group who love to attack Kate pretty obvious. (The most recent comments apply to ...William's Wife's Sister's Father-in-Law.) Anything to divert focus from Sparkle and her short-lived limpet like attachment to dim Harry.

Well I hope at least the entire wedding party jumps in a pool after the ceremony.

Harry isn't just dim, he is borderline retarded.

Hasn't Harry found a younger and fresher British bird? Or is he still slumming with the American rubbish?

R448 Great!

A sitting American president has never been invited to a Royal wedding.

Yeah, that would be too political.

I regret they didn't invite W, would have been funny.

I love how the very first comment on Sugars' Head Central is about how Kate went on a mission to Waitrose to divert attention from the rape scandal, like Duchess Kate cart shopping content would change anything.

Never change people.

Wrong, R470. Reagan was invited to Charles and Diana's. It was a state occasion. He was among the foreign heads of state invited. He didn't go. Nancy did.

Charles was the heir apparent, maybe it's not the same rules.

Anyone remember about Kate and William wedding.

That's exactly why. State occasion vs. family wedding, for both Kate and William and Harry and Meagain,

But R470 stated definitively no president had been invited to a royal wedding and was wrong.

As heir apparent Charles's wedding was a state occasion.

William was not the heir apparent, but will be, his wedding was a "semi-state" occasion.

Given that Harry is never sitting the throne, his wedding is just classified as a family affair.

I love that Kate and William are having their third child in just a few years of marriage to be absolutely, positively SURE that the village idiot doesn't have a chance in hell of getting the throne. Maybe they'll have one more just in case.

I think Kate can have easily an other one, just to be sure.

R464, Christ, have you ever actually been to the UK to see the difference between the class system there and what passes for a class system in the US? Or is leaving Duluth too painful?

R463, No, the Middleton's money did not come from an ancestor, that ancestor only set up an educational fund for their descendants, which, it is speculated, benefited the Middleton kids at the posh schools Ma Middleton pushed them into. The source of the Middleton millions remains mysterious.

I'm sure the Daily Fail or the RF would have known if they were drug Lords.

Yeah we get it, R479, you saw Downton Abbey.

You bet your ass the Royal Family and MI6 did a thorough check on the Middleton family's finances and found out how, why and where every fucking dime has ever been made or spent. This is the woman who was marrying the heir to the throne, they didn't want any surprises.

Why are the "We Love Sparkle" team so intent on trashing Kate? It doesn't make Sparkle look good. At all. Sparkle remains a climber, who has known PH a relatively short time. She's already abandoned one husband (after he helped her up the ladder). Nobody thinks this marriage will last.

Kate will be Queen as well as the Mother of the King after that.

Sparkle will drop lower and lower in the queue until she and PH no longer make it onto the balcony at all.

This reminds me of the Mark Boland attacks that were designed to make Prince Charles and Camilla look good at the expense of everyone else in the RF.

I smell PR manipulation on here.

Begone, PR shills.

As William and Kate's children get older, the focus will be on them and Harry will fade into the background. The same thing happened with Princess Margaret.

It's only logical.

Only Sugars don't understand that Meghan gonna be a minor Royal.

When Edward married Sophie they got married at Windsor and they had a royal carriage ride so the crowds could see them and cheer them. It was very nice. Edward seems very shy.

Harry and Megs are gonna have to deal with the IRS- MESSY!

[quote]Will the IRS Crash Prince Harry’s Wedding to Meghan Markle? by William Hoke (published in Tax Notes International Magazine, 1 January 2018)

Do they still have the English, French, and Italian tabloid magazines?

They are going to have a field day with her like they did with Fergie and Stephanie.

French tabloids don't care much.

Truman was not personally invited to (then Princess) Elizabeth and Phillip's wedding, but the US government was invited to send a "representative."

The Obamas were not invited to Kate and William's wedding, but security concerns were speculated as the likely reason. Plus the Obamas had a state visit to the UK shortly after.

Slideshow of Megs and Harry when Sparkle showed up at his best friend's wedding, allegedly uninvited - Jolie in Maleficent had nothing on this evil-looking chick.

Anyone have a Celebitchy account? I want to see KK Kaiser explain this away.

She's pretty... she just seems obnoxious.

Harry won't even be as high profile as Princess Margaret.

Margaret was the very young unmarried Daughter of a widowed Queen Consort and the Sister of The Queen Regnant, at a time when Senior Royals were in short supply. It was an almost unique situation.

By the time William is King Harry & Meghan will be in their late 40's and well in the background.

Meghan is such a boring dresser and as usual the comments are ridiculous except for two or three ladies who still have their eyes or good glasses.

She was wearing stilettos (paired with a polo shirt!?) and it looks like her heels were sinking in the grass.

Kate put the B in boring. She dresses like a 50 year old.

Kate knows what is expected of her as future queen. Look at the way HM dressed vs her sister. Different criteria for different roles.

R477

No “Queen Sparkle” might be a nice side effect of Kate pushing out kid after kid, no way that’s the reason though.

Kate doesn’t care for the Monarchy as an institutions, she only cares about herself and in extension William and the children, since they are her meal ticket. What she is making sure with this is that she can use the “I cannot work much, I have to take care of my children” excuse for years to come (while employing a nanny per child of course, but who‘s looking that closely).

Both William and Harry picked workshy social climbers, who are in it for the tiaras and the exotic holidays. William’s just happens to look much better now, since Harry managed to pick an even worse version.

Kate actually significantly upped her number of engagements, according to recently released stats. I think it was about double from the same period last year. All while she’s heavily pregnant.

Harry, again, is the laziest of the young royals.

Kate is lazy, no doubt but she's a good mother and I think she genuinely loves William.

Be let's be real, if I was in her position I would be a lazy ass too.

As for Kate's fashion, at least It's fun. Meghan looks like every 30 years old with a bit of money and who watched sex and the city.

[quote]R479 The source of the Middleton millions remains mysterious.

They are clearly Mafia.

I think Kate’s natural inclination is to be lazy but to her credit she paid attention to public sentiment and upped her workload.

[quote]Kate put the B in boring. She dresses like a 50 year old.

Kate is the future Queen and the mother of the future King. She dresses very appropriately for her role. I think her style is quite refreshing, since most female celebrities her age are all dressed like whores.

I think Kate will work more and more in the future, specially after the Queen death.

I’m not always a fan of Kate’s choices (some of that Erdem shit was hideous...) but everything is appropriate for the occasion, everything fits properly and all works together.

She also never makes stupid mistakes like leaving the basting stitch on a coat pleat or exposing the fusing on a coat collar. And Kate actually does her hair.

Diana had style, even before things went south. That pearl-beaded outfit with the upturned collar was divine.

Waitey looks like she uses the same designers as Camilla- she just has a better body and bra that fits.

People say that Meghan will wear Erdem for the Wedding, lol.

For the first few years of being a "royal" Kate the Flasher (she apparently used to moon people a lot when she was in school) made many fashion faux pas, such as not putting weights into billowy hems while on tour and so the world saw her buttocks or thongs on more than one occasion. After the first time, there was really no excuse.

Kate also used to wear skin tight jeggings, often pairing those with high espadrilles, to sporting events no less, which made it awkward when she tried to participate. The speculation is that the jeggings showed off her toned "pins" (TM Daily Mail), and the heels lengthened Kate's very short legs.

Meghan also can't dress herself to save her life. Before she got a professional stylist on Suits, girlfriend looked like she came out of East LA more than Compton. Over-plucked eyebrows and garish eye shadow, polyester -looking garden-shade jumpsuit shorts, all that was missing were the spit curls and the cat eyeliner.

Kate's new handler seems to have straightened her out, but it seems like the BRF hasn't hooked Meghan up with a stylist, or she's really stubborn, so maybe they do hate her?

'Cause this outfit is all kinds of wrong - long, drab coat on a Spring day, oversized jeans dragging in the mud, stilettos on an athletic field? Sort it, Meghan.

Meghan does have a stylist. The Mulroney woman/BFF is supposedly styling her.

And Meghan is 36, not a 20 something.

I don't think she's humble enough to learn and she has already her own shitty stylist.

Kate was more "malleable".

[quote]r509 girlfriend looked like she came out of East LA more than Compton. Over-plucked eyebrows and garish eye shadow, polyester -looking garden-shade jumpsuit shorts, all that was missing were the spit curls and the cat eyeliner.

She is the new People's Princess.

I wonder if tacky Meghan is a Russian mole, sent to undermine the UK in the same way they mucked up our election?

CODE NAME: SPARKLES

Is this the photo that persuaded Harry to ask her to marry him?

He wants to see this without clothes.

I'm just amazed at the middle-class and stupid posts made here, knowing so much about a foreign family. Do any of you read anything beyond the Enquirer?

I'm just amazed at the middle-class and stupid posts made here, knowing so much about a foreign family. Do any of you read anything beyond the Enquirer?

[quote]Do any of you read anything beyond the Enquirer?

Why would we?

BTW: did y'all catch the Enquirer article alleging that Our Megs was caught in a dressing room hook-up with ol' Matt-button-to-lock-his-door Lauer?

[quote]There was something going on between them,' a snitch for NBC network is alleged to have told the publication...The on set spy claims Meghan and Matt, 60, ‘vanished together” and that Meghan was spied going into the TV star’s dressing room on 'at least two occasions.'

'Whether it was just heavy, heavy flirting, Matt wouldn’t have done it in front of his wife. If [anything] more, it went on behind closed doors.'

Matt was sensationally fired from the NBC news show last year after allegations of sexual harassment came to light.

The source goes on to claim that while it wasn’t unusual for Matt to ask female guests to go backstage with him between segments, he usually left his office door open.

However, with Meghan he chose to keep their meetings private. 'No one dared to ask Matt why he kept the door closed [with Meghan],' a witness claims.

Before meeting the British prince, Meghan appeared on Today a number of times as a fashion expert to promote her former lifestyle blog, The Tig. 'They would flirt heavily with each other off the air and had undeniable chemistry,' says the source.

'Matt went out of his way to get Meghan on as often as possible.

'Since Matt was instrumental in getting her on board as a sort of celeb consultant, he wanted to do many of the segments with her himself.'

But R515 is right, because the Enquirer is always wrong.

So, where are the clips of Sparkle's appearances with Matt Lauer? Counting down.....

[QUOTE] R509 'Cause this outfit is all kinds of wrong - long, drab coat on a Spring day, oversized jeans dragging in the mud, stilettos on an athletic field? Sort it, Meghan.

Average mean temperature in the UK in the whole of March was 3.8'C or 39'F, it only started to get above 10'C or 50'F in the past few days. She [BOLD] Needed [/BOLD] the big coat, and probably thermal underwear.

Wouldn't have mattered what shoes she wore either they would have been full of mud, it has been raining for 8 weeks.

Hi Meghan at R519...

So long as your long coat and thermal undies maintain easy access, you'll be fine, dear...

^^^^^^^^The Queen

Had to add this pic.

Typical day this Spring in the UK.

Hunny, William is going to be king a lot sooner than you think. Charles is 70 right now. Did you see his hands the other day in pictures from Australia? They were swollen ad red. Looked as if they'd burst. The article said he either suffered from some acute circulation problem or the high altitude of flying from the UK to Australia fucked him up. In either case if you have circulation problems that bad you are perfectly eligible to develop DVT, blood clots in the legs . he could even get them in his lungs. Poor Charlie. He's walkin on a banana peel. So William might be king with toddlers. In which case HArry will be called upon along with Meghan and even Beatrice and Eugenie to help with the job.

Good, then Camilla will be Dowager Cunt.

The Queen, who beat Queen Victoria's record for length of reign, will probably beat her mother's length of life.

QEII appears to be in pretty good shape and could go another 10 years. Charles might never get to the top job at all.

By that time Harry will be completely bald and Sparkle will be comatose with boredom and pushing 50, assuming she's still around.

If Charles predeceases the queen, what’s that make Camilla? She’s a duchess—can they take that from her too?

No, we're stuck with the old cunt. But with her chain-smoking she'll be bringing up the rear.

No, she retains her title unless the Sovereign strips her of it. They'd never do that. They didn't even do that to Wallis Simpson. She will just be quietly forgotten, which I kinda think she'd prefer anyway.

But surely, if Charles dies before his mother, Camilla would not retain the money coming in from the Duchy of Cornwall, would she?

And isn't the title of "Duke of Cornwall", automatically given to the Prince of Wales?

If Charles dies first, who then becomes the Prince of Wales / Duke of Cornwall?

R351 asks what could the Queen or Charles do to prevent Harry from marrying Meghan. Prince Harry, by law, cannot marry without the Queen's permission. No marriage he might enter into, without her permission, would automatically be invalid.

R530, if Charles should die before his mother, William would immediately become Duke of Cornwall and would receive the income from the Duchy. The title Duke of Cornwall is automatic, but not the title Prince of Wales. Elizabeth would have to create William as Prince of Wales (as she created Charles as Prince of Wales previously). If Charles predeceases Elizabeth, Camilla would automatically become "HRH The Dowager Duchess of Cornwall" or, more commonly, "HRH Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall." Technically, she could call herself "The Dowager Princess of Wales" but that is unlikely since she has never used the title Princess of Wales.

Thank you, R531.

Camilla would be provided for but I imagine she would prefer just to return to private life.

The titles aren't inherited by subsequent descent.

"The title Prince of Wales is the older of the two titles, and is conferred by a special creation. This differs from the title of Duke of Cornwall, which is hereditary and is either inherited at birth or on the accession of a new monarch to the throne. Prince Charles, for example, became Duke when his mother acceded to the throne as Elizabeth II in 1952, and was created Prince of Wales on 26 July 1958 at the age of nine."

So William can't inherit at birth nor would a new monarch have acceded. However, the Sovereign, as font of honour, could title William anything she wants.

"At the moment, the Duchy's charter rules that each future Duke of Cornwall be the eldest son and heir of the monarch, which is out of line with the Succession to the Crown Act 2013. A female heir to the British throne should be allowed to bear the title 'Duke of Cornwall'."

"4. Under the Duchy’s charter, the title ‘Duke of Cornwall’ is held only by the eldest surviving son of the Monarch and the heir to the throne. The Duchy told us that where the Monarch does not have a son and heir, the title of ‘Duke of Cornwall’ reverted to the Crown. In such a case, the Duchy would become the Monarch’s private estate. This is despite the Duchy’s primary function being to provide an income from its assets to the heir to the Crown. The Duchy told us that its charter could be amended, as titles were a matter for the Royal Prerogative.7"

Yikes- Tumblr has shut down some of the blogs critical of Smarkle, the blogs that had exposed a lot of the stuff she wants hidden.

As she proved in that threatening letter she had her lawyers send to the British press regulatory agency, back in early Fall 2016 when she barely knew Harry, this chick doesn't mess around.

R458. ....and your Congress has jus,t eliminated the estate tax ensuring your wealthy families' continued reign What are you going on about?

Why would he care if she took him for everything? It's not like it's his money or he did anything to earn it.

She once called the cast of Suits "family" and now apparently she's thrown them away like everyone else. Her former love interest on the show, who defended her in the past, doesn't even have her number anymore.

How can anyone defend her? She really seems to be a horrible person.

This woman is going to have a hard time of it... much self inflected.

Fun!

The actually very rational Tumblr blogger is still around and she posted the following - Harry's marrying a CULT MEMBER!!!!

[quote] Did you catch this little nugget from the DM article about the teen boyfriend?

He and Meghan first met in the most innocent imaginable manner, at the Agape International Spiritual Center, a huge, ultra-progressive, transdenominational church then based in Santa Monica, where she worshipped regularly with her mother, Doria Ragland. As she and Joshua were both budding performers, they developed a friendship.

“Agape International Spiritual Center” is a batshit collection of mind-healers and kooks based on nineteenth century Spiritualism.

One of their beliefs is “Life Visioning,” which what “The Secret” is based on.

I am not saying it was “like” The Secret. It literally WAS “The Secret.” The church’s founder was actually one of the people in the “The Secret” video. Meghan was raised to a church based on “The Secret.” (after, I suppose, Doria got bored of the kooky yoga temple she got married in). I didn’t even know there was such a thing.

This explains soooooo much. Holy crap, this was actually her “church.” She grew up in this. And now she’s pretending to be a devout Christian, LOLOLOLOL. This woman is amazing. No matter how much crazy you think you’ve found, there is always more. No wonder they had to baptize her. Her native faith was “The Secret.” No wonder they call her “zen.” You literally cannot have bad thoughts in this cult because you will attract bad things. This was her church. Goodness, this is better than the Jess Mulroney Birks videos. No wonder they cannot deal with her. She will not accept that she can’t become Di 2.0. She literally will not even contemplate it because she thinks she will attract it. It WILL happen as long as she doesn’t even consider that it may not happen. This is why she keeps saying she “doesn’t know” her family. As long as she wishes for it, it will come true. In case you’re not familiar with the epic crazy that is The Secret or The Law of Attraction, here is the beginning of the video. Meghan’s “pastor” is at 3:05, 11:45, 13:45, 15:05, 19:35, 20:15, and 24:21.

Harry was pissed about something today.

[quote]R517 'Whether it was just heavy, heavy flirting, Matt wouldn’t have done it in front of his wife. If [anything] more, it went on behind closed doors.'

Could it be that Sparkles is carrying Lauer's baby...and plans to put it on the throne?

Meghan, thinking happy thoughts while Harry fumes.

[quote]r531 Prince Harry, by law, cannot marry without the Queen's permission. No marriage he might enter into, without her permission, would automatically be invalid.

Not if they did it in Vegas.

Harry and Vegas aren't a good mix.

I can see poor Harry and "The American" hating one another by ten years in. I like Harry. He's a openhearted kind person. Meghan, IMO likes the spotlight just a little too much.

Ten years? Most people don't think it will last two.

R539 She's a female Andrew Cunanan, using and discarding people as she goes, lying all the way. A sociopath. Someone needs to dull the knives at Buckingham Palace and keep the Queen away from flights of stairs.

R545, yes, even if they married in Vegas it wouldn't be a legal union in the United Kingdom without the Queen's approval, given in the Privy Council.

[quote]I like Harry. He's a openhearted kind person. Meghan, IMO likes the spotlight just a little too much.

He's a pampered, spoiled, fucking clueless idiot! Seriously, like borderline retarded.

[quote]R550 yes, even if they married in Vegas it wouldn't be a legal union in the United Kingdom without the Queen's approval, given in the Privy Council.

We, the AMERICAN PEOPLE, will offer them sanctuary! Harry shall become an American citizen by marrying our Sparkles. Then he will lead us in WAR against that tentacled old bat, his grandmother.

He and Sparkles will take the throne BY FORCE.

[bold]#iStandWithSparkles

I have to wonder how her little sugars are spinning her former co-star saying she dropped him too. Adams had nothing but nice things to say about her until this revelation and he was even out there defending her. At some point the sugars have to see the problem is HER and not all of these people from her past who all have the same story to tell about her.

Wake up Harry. You aren't gonna be any different than all the others who she ditched when they were no longer useful to her.

I wonder if the guy doesn't have a little crush.

Is that the explanation? He has a crush?

Nah, he defends her cause he has a crush. Not she ghosts him cause he has a crush.

r541 I've been to Agape and though it's been a long time since my last visit I never experienced anything like what you are talking about. You could have gone to a Marianne Williamson lecture on A Course In Miracles and seen the same people there. There is a community in LA that is spiritual and Christian/Catholic and those are the type that go to Agape. Agape also attracts some of those more into crystals and Science Of The Mind beliefs. You can take what works for you and leave the rest. It's what I do anytime I'm forced to attend any religious service. I may find some things that ring true, I may not. Unless you are in their heads you don't know what Sparkles and her mother's beliefs really are. All religion is brainwashing.

R557 Well, they were still working together, or just finishing up their time on the show the last time I heard anything from him about her. I don't think he was being nice because he has a crush, I think they genuinely did get along while working. It don't remember hearing about any tension on the set of Suits. Some of her other co-workers from Suits publicly wished her well and said nice things too. So I do think that they probably all did have good working relationships. It must have been crazy for their little show to start getting a whole bunch of attention all the sudden because of who she was dating.

It just seems she has no time for them now that she's moved on to bigger and better things. Just like everyone else from her past. I mean what kind of future princess has time for actors from a barely watched basic cable show? She can't have a bunch of D-List actors around to remind everyone where she came from.

Adams little dig about the vitamix was pretty good tho. Funny stuff.

Hunny, Meghan has hit her pinnacle. She will make this one work. She is going to be a Royal. A Princess of the Realm.

Now, if I were Wills and Katie, I don't think I'd be too eager for Harry and Megs to babysit for me.

I think some of you bitches are jealous cause she's getting a hot cock and 💰. Plus a few years while he still has hair.

The way you bitches are attacking Meghan you'd swear her nom de plume were Wallis Simpson

R560, yes, there is no where UP for her to go after marrying a prince but I think after a while she'll get bored with doing royal engagements and I don't think she'll like the constraints of being a royal where she can't really be herself and speak out on certain issues the way she'd like etc., having those men behind the scenes trying to control everything, criticizing every wrong move, it will get exhausting. Things have loosened up a bit since then but even Diana had trouble adjusting to it all and Diana was raised in that environment.

I think she likes the attention for now but the negativity and scrutiny will eventually get to her-as it would with anyone. She'll be itching for her freedom within a couple of years. And once she's been there, done that it doesn't matter so much to hold on to the man who gave it all to her. I think she'd be more than happy to take a nice little settlement and just live a jet-set life without the obligations that go along with being a royal.

Or maybe she'll like it. After all, these Royal duties are basically acting anyway.

Time will tell R564

Most of Meg's supporters don't have anything to say in her defense. They just show up to call people who don't like her "jealous" (really creative there!) or "bitches". They will also sling mud at Kate to deflect. But they don't have much to say about why people who don't like Meg are wrong. It's very telling.

Most meg fans do not know her real personality since it is hard to read a phony. Their defense of her is based on the fantasy of her been a biracial woman marrying into the most powerful white monarchy.

"Racist" is Meg Lovers' favorite word, because they can't defend her - any honest appraisal of her past (especially when the appraiser reads her own words - for instance she's called herself ruthlessly ambitious) would show that her pattern is to use and dump. Third World kids, her dogs, her family, her friends, her co-workers.

According to the Morton bio, Megs took a Vitamix blender when she left her husband. Her former SUITS co-star is trolling her hard when he says that, whether invited to Megs' wedding or not, he's making sure she gets his present of a VITAMIX blender.

But then, this is the costar who probably didn't invite her to his own wedding and when asked about it, Megs claimed she didn't go because she wouldn't want to draw attention away from the bride and groom. This is when the wench was barely known outside of Royal watchers. What a narcissist.

Well r565 I support her. I don't know a fucking thing about her. Only the people that have been around her know anything about this bitch. But I see no reason to hate her or think the worst about her just because she is who she is. I don't fucking know, I've never been around her. But I wish them both well because I'm not someone to hate on someone just because I can.

You don't know her. You don't know if anything that is said about her is true. It's just opinion, conjecture, it counts for nothing except to those who think like you.

You can make all the assumptions you want. So can I. Only the people around Meghan know the truth.

There are a lot of people attacking her right now. Some of it does seem like jealousy. Some of it seems like prejudice for a number of reasons (she's American, she's Black, she's an actress). But none of it is truth. Some of it just seems like people who love to tear those that can't defend themselves, down. Still there is no truth connected to it, just speculation, assumption.

I only people that know the truth are those that have gotten close to her.

Of we don’t know her, but when those who do all have the same story to tell why would we not believe them? What possible motivation does Patrick Adams have to say that she ghosted him? He’s affirming what all of the others say and you can’t accuse him of being jealous or bitter.

Other things, well she lived her life online. She put everything out there. So when she later lies like with the timeline of when she met Harry or about her dog being “too old” there is evidence to back it up. So even if we don’t “know” her it doesn’t mean things are just being made up.

The nasty things staff are going to do to her behind her back. Oh, the humanity.

I don't "hate" her, hating her is dumb.

But I can be snarky, specially after all the PR bullshit pushed to my face months after months.

That’s the other line they all use too. “You don’t know her. It’s all speculation.” Well no shit. What do you expect to find on a gossip website? It’s funny that’s all they got. To complain about gossip and bitchiness on a website devoted to gossip and pointless bitchery.

It's ironic, too, because so many of the "I Love Sparkle" crowd love to attack Kate. And they don't know Kate.

You can't have it both ways.

R568, She’s not black!! She’s mixed race....black women do not look like her. Her features are European and she has olive skin.

Meghan looks more like a latina than a black woman. She's no Lupita.

Her children with DumbyHarry will look 100% white.

R575, I guess you forgot Lupita was born in Mexico and speaks Spanish. But yes, her and Meghan have two different phenotypes.

So the Queen had to have had her fully vetted. They found nothing of this?

I'm just thinking the Queen doesn't give a fuck anymore. She knows with her mediocre spawn the monarchy is pointless, irrelevant and antediluvian to the point that after she dies everything will crash and burn and it's no skin off her nose.

They can all find stock jobs at Mark and Spencer's.

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I am sure they found it all R578. There are a few BIs floating around that say Harry was throwing fits about getting her in the fold so quickly and saying he was gonna marry her anyway if the queen didn't give her approval.

I think a big part of this is that the queen saw what a disaster it was with Diana (and her sister...) and she isn't keen on denying her family marrying who the chose if it's at all possible. I think a big part of it is that Harry is the spare and it doesn't matter as much with him. And I also think that there really wasn't much the queen could do. So she denies him approval and he marries her anyway, or even if he doesn't marry her it's a no win situation for the queen. She'll be accused of being racist. People wouldn't like her denying precious Harry his chance at happiness...so she probably figures fuck it, let him do it and deal with the consequences.

Does she really think Charles & Camilla are going to step aside and let her "change the world"?

Does she think the cadre of people working for and protecting the Royal Family will let an upstart like her have any success?

Does she think William & Kate will lower the moat and let the scheming interloper into their protected circle?

Sparkle is clueless and delusional.

Lads, I've been dealing with this since I watched Margaret marry Antony Armstrong-Jones. This Meghan girl isn't that much to suffer.

[quote]Kate needs elocution lessons.

I first saw that as "Kate needs electrocution lessons."

I don't know why people complain about Kate's elocution. I've heard her and she's perfectly clear.

Meghan appears more and more for what she is but let's not vilify her. She's the same as hundreds and hundreds of other ambitious gold diggers with a pretty face choosing to be an actress to find a rich husband.

I've read a long time ago that she chose to be an "humanitarian" only to rise her profile, nothing is new but it pleases me that she's exposed.

Like has been said before, Harry and Sparkle will fade into the background. He's currently 6th in line, and Kate is very likely to push a couple more heirs out of her cootie-hoo before she's done.

The more I see Meagain, the more I appreciate Kate.

She's far to be perfect and is certainly lazy BUT it's the first time I realize the girl is classy and fits into the RF.

She's the future Queen, the mother of King Georges.

Meagain will be remembered as the D-actress gold digger who manipulated the idiot of the RF's village to marry her so she could "Change The World".

Harry will never fade into the background just as Margaret did not. He and his American black wife will be forever hounded by the Press.

Fuck off r587, She’s not “black” woman...everyone and even Stevie Wonder can see that!

She's an annoying cockroach face.

I fucking hate that an American is now in the heart of my Royal Family.

After MM's trash loud-mouth half-sister, half-brother and Priddy selling stories about her, I can see why she hasn't given out her new phone number to her castmates. It's probably a security measure put in place by the Palace.

Yes, that’s it. The palace is worried about Patrick Adams giving her number away to Meg’s trashy relatives.

Selling his story, not giving her number to her relatives. He already blabbed saying he didn't have her number, so it's likely he won't be getting the new one.

Sell his story? He’s an actor. They give interviews. You act like he wasn’t given the number because of the interview when her dropping him is what came first.

Nutmeg is no longer on Suits so her co-stars are no longer "needed" in any way. They've outlived their shelf date now that she has "moved up" in the world. Hence, the cold shoulder!

r576 is DL's own in-house Geneticist.

^ it's stories like that that predict the future. So she sells copy, as does bad news, and you've got enterprising, ruthless people in media who know she's a vulnerable character based on race, nationality and profession (they may or may not really care about race.) Meagain will be the Royal Family punching bag.

And worse for her she's probably her own worst enemy so will provide an avalanche of bad news to cover. Once she's crossed the threshold for good she'll get grander, and in due course more jealous of those who rank ahead of her, more ambitious to be beloved, more restless in the monotony of the second string role, more medicating via shopping and the newspapers and the internet will eat it up and spit it out and it won't be a nice way to live.

She's some degree of smart and shrewd but it's one thing to seduce and charm a dim and lonely young prince.... quite another to sustain the goodwill of a country, the British establishment and the British press. The Titanic in couture.

R597 - I predict her self-proclaimed "ambition" will be her downfall in the end. Once she gets the ring around her finger, I suspect her head will swell to dangerous and insufferable proportions, She's clueless about the Royal Family, the Establishment and the British tabloid press, They'll eat her alive and then spit her out. It won't be pretty.

Sugars can't say every bad stories about Meagain come from jealous bitter ex.

Those people are in the bizz anyway, journalists ask questions, they answer. Too bad it's not flattering for Nutmeg.

Gurl has a clear pattern. She seduces people, uses them, dumps them, ghosts them, moves higher and repeats.

She's a sociopath, that's not an healthy behavior.

600!

Let's end this on a funny note!

Worth looking at this video to truly appreciate how fast she has climbed the social ladder. Chats with Trudeau at 1:09.