Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy’s Style

Ok do you know much about her? Was she really a Coke whore and a bisexual. Someone told me this an I found it very difficult to believe.

From R1 I went searching for my own answers, finally. Here is an article I found. Can’t guess the veracity of it though.

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I cant believe she was able to get the prime beef she did...JFK,jr and Michael Bergin.......lucky bitch.

She was so quintesential '90's. interesting non=look

She is absolutely beautiful!

She reminds me of what thy used to say about Diana: she looked great in formal wear and casual clothes, but not so much in dresses and suits.

Elegant photo minutes after of their vows.

R7 I agree too.

I think she was beautiful, even handsome.

She had very angular, sharp features that look great on men but few women can pull it off.

If you mean '90's chic. I wonder what safe, tasteful, elegant style she'd be sporting today.

R10 interesting analysis. I never looked at her in that manner. You are accurate.

Homely. Blonde and thin, but homely

She always looked fridgedaire. Stiff and loose at the same time. She was a fuse in the bathroom and a plug in the kitchen. She could darken a room with one glance.. Her gay, reatarded, self-absorbed nephew with a cleft chin and a widow's peak wanted to go back to his condo. His lyft stood him up. He then decided to share a ride home with a much older man with money.....He would soon regret being such a cheap slut.

Crazy in the head, crazy in bed - that is why John John loved her so.. I wonder how many times she assaulted him...he just always went back for more.

Eventually it grows exhausting - he knew he would have to leave her.

My bestie!

Dishy VF article from 2003:

"Once, when John returned in the evening to their loft, he found Carolyn sprawled on the floor in front of a sofa, disheveled and hollow-eyed, snorting cocaine with a gaggle of gay fashionistas—clothing designers, stylists, male models, and one or two publicists. Without asking John’s permission, Carolyn gave keys to their loft to some of her friends so that they could come and go as they pleased.

“You’re a cokehead!,” John screamed at her, according to one of the people who were present that night.

Her friends in the fashion industry were aware that Carolyn was a heavy user of street drugs.

“She and I went to dinner one night when John was sick at home with the flu,” recalled a close acquaintance who worked at George. “She made at least a half-dozen trips to the bathroom and came back to the table with white rings around her nostrils. We went from bar to bar, and she wanted to come over to my apartment, but I said no, because I knew it would be an all-nighter. I finally dropped her off at three A.M.

“The next morning, John came into the office and asked, ‘Why did you keep my wife out so late?’ And I said, ‘A better question, John, is why your wife didn’t want to go home.’

“Carolyn was like a wild horse,” this person continued. “She had a trash mouth and loved being irreverent. She used to call John a fag all the time. Once, there was a party at Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump’s private club in Florida, and Carolyn announced to a roomful of people, ‘I had to take a Puerto Rican bath [a derogatory term meaning a splash of water and a spray of cologne] on the way down in the airplane.’”

I loved the way she paired a simple black dress with an exploded fusilage and a wreath of seaweed - classic!

JFK junior fucked that shit hag Madonna. Madonna said he was boring in bed. Apparently he was not endowed.

Such a shame he ended up with her.

She had that preppie Ralph Lauren model look: blonde, bony, scrubbed and plain but with great bone structure. She had a perfect body for clothes, lanky with broad shoulders and long legs. She could wear anything.

Search for pictures of her in her everyday clothes. THAT is how people of great wealth and great taste dress. She wore simple, impeccably tailored clothing. You see the money in the detail and refinement, the quality of the fabric. Her clothes were timeless. I know almost nothing about her and know this is a shallow take on her, but in terms of style she was among the best.

R21 truth

[quote]“Carolyn was like a wild horse,”

And looked like one too. Remember he had previously dated Sarah Jessica Parker and Darryl Hannah, both pretty little fillies themselves. But they were actresses and not good enough for Mama, so eventually he had ditch them despite his obvious fondness of and attraction to each.

A more current and also very chic woman with a striking resemblance to Carolyn.

Second- (okay, third-hand) word from anyone who worked with her at Calvin Klein: major, major cunt. Colleagues could not STAND her.

Uppity, unpleasant bitch from a serious climber suburban middle-class family. Weird ambivalence toward gay men, who she befriended, but then she'd use the Fag word on anyone: her husband, Calvin, you name it. A lot of John's friends (eg, Christiane Amapour) simply despised her. The much-repeated quote?

"He never, ever would have married her if Jackie were still alive."

Drug use? Oh please.

Cocaine.

Meh. Meryl Streep without the talent or personality. Cokehead

Her much more down-to-earth sister, Lauren. She was a smart, single, hard-working MBA on Wall Street. Ambitious, but not much interest in Carolyn's fashion-social world.

She was one of a set of twins and only 34 when JFK's plane went down.

Sad.

She would have aged Angelina Jolie style. Botox galore, anorexic looking. And, most definitely, veneers.

Pure Fug.

[quote] Search for pictures of her in her everyday clothes. THAT is how people of great wealth and great taste dress. She wore simple, impeccably tailored clothing. You see the money in the detail and refinement, the quality of the fabric. Her clothes were timeless.

Mary!

I hope you smoked a good cigarette after that orgasm.

Thank u R30. I'm sorta glad she died. We are spared the endless stories abt her elegance and beauty.

Women who pull their hair back are bitches.

Marry me, R31.

"Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy’s Style" is an oxymoron.

if only the hot and brilliant JFK jr had not married her....he may be alive.

her coke addiction, erratic behavior, and general bitchyness drove him mad!

R24 another overrated PR creation who married way way up. And they have the same taste in drugs.

ITA, R37. I'm sick to fucking death of these "perfect life" blogs. See, this is me walking down the street. And this is me leaning against a wall. And this is me sitting in a chair. You'll notice that in each photo I'm perfectly coiffed and made up, and that my clothes are expensive and best worn by slender, beautiful women like myself. Oh, and this is my beautiful house, and these are my perfect table settings. Don't get me started on my handsome, rich husband and my adorable, precocious twins, because honestly, I could just blog and blog for days!

why he chose such a mundane looking woman - with questionable ethics, sense of self - is astounding. An acquaintance knew her at Calvin Klein - said she was cold, lacked humor and was focused on meeting a rich man. He said she had moments of being fun, but was mostly a brooding, unhappy woman. How in the hell JFK jr chose her - of all the women in the world who were more cultured, sophisticated, worthy of the life he could provide. The guy said she was very basic, and had questionable friends. I think JFK was somewhat lost after Jackie died and Carolyn offered him solace. However, the kind of solace that he would pay for later: the kind of girl who consoles, pretends to be caring, then when she gets him - turns into her real self. She always claimed the media attention was too much - who the fuck did she think she married? Her erratic behavior was a means to control. She was the reason the left so late that day - she was pampered, indulged and had no regard for others - arrived hours late when she was supposed to be there at 3pm. Caroline hated her - saw through the ruse.

I'm surprised at how emotional I became reading every post in this thread. [R39] seemed to sum the whole sensation up. I made cassette tapes of different kinds of music for a friend regularly in those days. I made two that weekend. The spines were black with no writing on them and each side began with the "Get Yer Ya-Ya Out!" version of "Sympathy for the Devil"; the line where Mick sang, "I shouted out who killed the Kennedys/When after all, after all/it was you and me."

I pick my nose.

he wanted 2 marry a couple of nice broads (Darryl Hannah, etc) but mommy disapproved.

she liked the fug he married

sad

R36, If Jackie had not checked out at 64, he would have never have been flying, which she forbid him to do.

R42, Jackie and Carolyn never met.

Their delayed departure to Cape Cod that fateful evening was mainly due to Carolyn not being pleased with the shade of nail polish she originally had the salon apply and she had them remove it and apply another color, making her airport arrival late.

She's fug and would have aged HORRIBLY

One good thing that can be said about Carolyn is that she thought Ed Schlossberg was a total asshole.

Fatty double-denim frau before she met gay men in Manhattan who told her to pluck her brows, wear only neutrals, no print, and to shop in Ann Demeulemeester, Jil Sander and Prada.

Note his hands on her vagine. Vagine-matised.

Gap-tastic

She wore these, frau fans, start saving

[quote] She is absolutely beautiful!

Um, you've seen her lately?

r51, they look like the sunglasses that Kim Kardashian has been wearing lately. Is the Kennedys her new thing? First she bought Jackie's Cartier tank watch, now she is copying CBK's style.

The 90s' compact eyewear is back, R53. I believe the Hollywood Hills Heffalump wears what her gay husband instructs her to wear.

even in her photos she comes across as strange.

Why DO these types resemble horses?

r56....thats why they consider them thoroughbreds.

I can't help thinking that Madonna would find most men boring in bed, poor John-John didn't stand a chance with her.

Despite her supposed personality defects, there is no denying that she was photogenic and that she and John looked good together.

I wonder how long their marriage would have lasted if they hadn't been killed?

Not much longer....he was going to leave her for me.

[quote] So chic. Simple and timeless.

Even when under the sea for several hours.

I never understood how she was considered a great beauty. She looked like the less-pretty sister of Tatjana Patitz. Or maybe Uma Thurman. I think people are just so programmed to think of tall+thin+blonde+blue-eyed as automatically beautiful. And OF COURSE John-John would have married only a great beauty.

She actually looked better with darker hair and fuller brows. They were a better balance for her strong features. The light blonde and pencil-thin brows washed her out and made her nose and chin look beaky.

Are there really crash recovery pictures out there on the internets? I’m afraid to look.

^ No.

JFK Jr could have married any number of truly interesting women and he picked this stupid ugly drug-addled talentless American piglet. He was dumb as a rock, that one.

I still remember her last words.....

"Splash!"

Well, didnt he fail the bar like 5x before he passed ?

She had a classic WASP look and was a perfect companion for him to be seen with. She was not flashy or tarted-up or covered with labels. It would be interesting to see how they would’ve evolved. I saw him once in person in DC - he was just walking down the street by himself - he was absolutely stunning.

He only had to take it three times R68.

You fans are quite dumb. Bassette was Catholic and never had a "classic WASP look" nor would IRISH CATHOLIC "prince" JFK Jr have been attracted to a high WASP.

Bessette was tranny adjacent and that suited JFK Jr just fine.

I worked on Madison Ave and a colleague used to walk through the park to get to work. She told me of one day seeing JFK Jr sitting on a kerb in the park, head in his hands and clearly sobbing, while a deranged Carolyn screamed and shouted abuse at him. Camelot it definitely was not, she remarked.

R69, he was. It was really kind of ridiculous how good-looking he was. Never a bad angle.

I agree she looked better with the dark hair. People with dark hair and light eyes (like John John himself) are very arresting. But he had a fetish for blondes, so blonde she was.

^JFK Jr. had dark brown eyes...?

She was responsible for the trend of women wearing wedding gowns that looked like nightgowns. So minimalist, so 90s, so ugly.

I don't think Jackie would've cared for her.

Goop obviously modeled her style after Carolyn B-K. But Goop seems almost warm and fun personality-wise compared to the dear departed.

More stupidity among stans, at R75. Honorary guido (or genetically.... scandalous rumours) John had dark eyes and youthfully indulged in unfortunate manscaping.

I don't think he manscaped much, he was just super young there ^. He never even had any awkward teenage years. Even during the long curly hair phase, you could see the hotness just waiting to be unleashed.

She had the talent of making clothing look good. She was stylish, IMO.

I disagree that she wore expensive tailored clothing and that’s why she always looked that way. She’s the kind of woman who could look good in jeans and a tee shirt and flip-flops. No doubt she did wear designer pieces, but it didn’t matter. She always looked like the very expensive piece of ass that she was.

But I think she was a piece of garbage as a human being, so.

B O R I N G.

Hate the 90s minimalism called chic.

They were THE It couple in NYC in the second half of the 90s. It all seems so long ago now.

R83. Agreed. I've always thought she resembled those little kids with progeria, especially at R26 with the gaunt, hollow face, long nose and bug eyes.

I'm convinced all the queens here waxing poetic about how "stylish" CBK was are just being sycophantic. Never really did understand the gay male infatuation with stuck up, wouldn't-piss-on-you-if-you-were-on-fire, ice queen types.

[quote]She actually looked better with darker hair and fuller brows.

It was the 90's though. All women had those super skinny brows.

I remember very soon after their marriage Jr. talked to the press outside their apartment about how nervous his wife was and to please be kind ect. The outfit she was wearing that day, a long skirt, black top and knee high boots, was over 5000.00. She may have looked good in casual clothing, but everything she wore cost a mint.

^ I believe this is the outfit you're talking about.

He should have gone for a cheerful, sporty, jet-setter.

She was a whore. WHORE!

I never considered her to be a style icon. I mean, a black sweater and a camel skirt? That color combination doesn't require a lot of fashion daring

It says more about JFK Jr as to why he chose her and took her abuse. I guess he had lower self esteem than anyone knew. Can you imagine looking like that and waking up every day being the prince of the US and still having low self esteem? One never knows, right? Never judge a book and all.

She looked elegant I will give her that but it's a two sided coin. The cold, preppy, entitled soul-less WASP wannabe that she was.

Jackie wanted JFK Jr to marry Christiane Amanpour; they were housemates while they were at Brown. I guess she thought her brains would help advance JFK's political career. It sure wasn't her looks!

Not true R92. Christiane was quite attractive and her voice is sexy as hell!

Amanpour was at U of RI not Brown. Yes they were housemates. Stans on this thread continue to reveal their ignorance.

Carolyn's face was going to be a mess by 2010 if she hadn't died. She probably would have had plastic surgery to try and salvage it, who knows how that would have turned out. You can see the jowl and neck issues just beginning to emerge in r87. She should have laid off the coke.

She looked like a chick who should work at the Coach or Talbots store in an outlet mall. Sorry.

After Jackie Kennedy died, John Jr., lost his focus. Had she lived, he would have never married that emaciated ice cold bitch. Jackie would have made mincemeat out of her.

God, he was a beautiful man, and he was a gentleman.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest of these are what might have been.

Jackie did like Darryl. Her family had money, and so did she. Didn't have to worry about her being a gold-digger- always a nice plus.

Jackie didn't like Darryl because she was an actress. An actress was the last person she wanted her son to marry.

I don’t understand the scorn for her clean lines and simple style. Anyone can wear a bunch of prints and ruffles and sequins. Are we suggesting that someone like Sarah Jessica Parker and her “fashion forward” sundaes of tulle and silk and costume jewelry are style?

Sorry to say, Carolyn had style very similar to Jackie’s. Plain and simple, never slutty-looking. Not overdone, ever.

Hardeeharhar. Carolyn was a fraudulent imitator. "Just like Jackie Bouvier"? Laugh riot

I'm saying Carolyn was fugly. Jackie understood what played to the camera. Oversized buttons, moving pockets or hemlines. She understood clothes as costume designer do. She didn't just buy overpriced clothes and wear them.

Look at the pic posted of Carolyn in the Carmel skirt. See how it pulls on her? It's not fit right. The boots are the wrong tone to play off the monotone look of the bottom half of the outfit.

r102 you're REALLY over-thinking this.

R103 that's kind of the topic of this thread.

The Bessette detractors are not "over-thinking this" they are calling out the mush brained ignorant stans on their lame stanitude.

Brain-dead Kennedy fetishism is one of the more pitiable recurrent obsessions on DL.

There is some tard who every 6 moths or so creates an series of obsessive threads on Kennedy shit. Always the waft of vinegary crotch and skin folds, dried cum, dusty memorabilia.

R103 how am I overthinking this?? This is abt how elegant Carolyn dressed. She couldn't even wear clothes that fit her correctly when John "introduced" her to the press.

If some horse face bleached blond in overpriced, poorly fit clothes is ur idea of elegance, have it it.

She came back.

I liked her 90s minimalism.

" , , , People with dark hair and light eyes (like John John himself) are very arresting."

Ex-squeeeeze me?

I liked her in Manhattan and Kramer vs. Kramer

R110 I do too. Carolyn she just not a good example. The pic with the black coat (?). The sleeves are too long to be 3/4 length and too short to be wrist length. Look at Sharon Stone in basic instinct or Glenn close in fatal attraction. Minimal but fitted correctly and with an understanding of what the viewers would see.

She had 'man hands' and 'cankles' -

(See said 'Man Hands' in Op's pix.)

John Kennedy Jr. is responsible for the crash, not Carolyn being late. Kennedy was the pilot, it was his responsibility to decide to take off or not. It is all on him. He could have had an experienced pilot sit in with him; in fact his instructor offered to go with them and Kennedy said he wanted to do it alone. Incompetent pilot.

R73 Oh for heaven's sake, your friend was nowhere near this. He just read about this in the Post, as we all did.

I remember Carolyn being upset about the constant media attention and lack of privacy. At the time I just rolled my eyes and thought "WTF did you think was going to happen when you married JFK Jr.?"

Disgusting Kennedy friends blaming everything on Carolyn. At least she didn't kill two people and herself like her foolish idiot husband did. He was too scatterbrained to be a pilot.

She had short, piano-esque legs, like her mom's, not long legs. Fantastic upper torso - square, defined shoulders, waistline, and a great face. How often do we see her legs? Yes, it's the nineties, but she never did the tights/short skirt thing. There's a reason. Look at some pics of her mom. Those are Carolyn's legs.

[quote] Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest of these are what might have been.

Honey, what exactly do you think he might have been?

he was handsome, but no one ever thought he was very bright. not even his mother.

[R92], Christiane has always generated my gay het particle. I have always thought she was beautiful. Go suck a bloody presidential cranium in Dealey Plaza.

I BLAME HER FOR HIS DEATH

I never thought she was a paragon of style, nor pretty. She made herself look sickly with her plucked brows and bleached hair. Some people have colouring that does not lend itself well to blonde hair. She is a perfect example of this. More often than not, the colour looked cheap too. I agree with the poster upthread who had mentioned she looked better with her real eyebrows too. I think her "look" came off as totally fake, not natural at all. I recall reading an article that stated she did NOT always wear expensive clothes. According to Jr.'s friend from George magazine, he claimed they were both fond of Banana Republic & J. Crew, and wore that frequently.

Carolyn's look - blonde hair and plucked brows - was popular among NY women in that time period. She was just following the fashion of the day.

All of you shut up and fuck off. Stop trashing them. No one will ever know for sure. Let them Rest In Peace. I remember little John John saluting his dead father next to Jackie. Just have some compassion and give it a rest

Still badly done and not at all attractive on her R124. The brows were completely "drawn on" after her transformation. Women of better taste wouldn't have gone that far, and would have a better colourist. New York is not an excuse for her.

I saw JFK Jr. on the street in NY on three occasions in the mid/late 90s. He was absolutely stunning, looked exactly the same in person as he did in photos. Even if he hadn't been "JFK Jr." and had just been some anonymous, random guy he still would've stopped traffic and had people thinking "who the hell is THAT guy?"

JFK Jr was murdered.

Carolyn and Lauren were just collateral damage.

I read somewhere that her hair was so damaged that basically she couldn’t put a brush to it without chunks of hair falling out and was afraid for people even to touch it.

HAD she lived she probably would have gone bald. Like Kelly Ripa.

no one then or now can understand why he married such a drug addled loser....

very odd

Kennedy was the loser, a failed lawyer, a failed magazine, and then catastrophically failure as a pilot.

He gave as good as he got

Why did Carolyn and Caroline not get along?

What did her pussy have that entranced both the glamorous JFK Jr and Michael Bergin, a nice down-to-earth boy from Naugatuck?

Caroline is a stuck up bitch. I would take Carolyn any day over her.

I’d take this one over all of them!

He liked her because she was the only girl who didn't fall at his feet

R120, why must you be such an insufferable cunt?

John F. Kennedy, Jr., might have been President. In fact, had he lived, he might be the President now. Considering what’s in the White House now, the saddest of these words are might have been.

I miss the 90s. TV series are better today but are they fun, do they give us a good feeling? No. It was shallow yes, shows like Baywatch and Beverly Hills & MTV but I would happily step into a time machine and spend a whole year in the 90s. It will be a holiday. It seems so long ago now, but looking back it felt like one hedonistic party. Decadent yes, but better than the fear based society we live in today. No 9/11, no islamic terrorism. Non!

John Jr. wouldn't be president today, Mary Top. He was handsome and charismatic and JFK's "heir" but he wasn't especially gifted intellectually and didn't know his limitations, and going by the woman he married, didn't seem to be a savvy judge of character. His mom should've let him go to drama school and be an actor like he wanted and let him marry an actress like he wanted, but she was a terrific snob. She and the Ks tried pusing him into politics and Greatness like his father but he just wasn't up to it. He failed the bar exam at least twice, not to mention failing 11th grade. It seems he compromised his own desires to be an entertainer with his family's expectation to be a politician, by going into celebrity journalism with that magazine. And that too, was in the process of failing when he died. I would've loved to see him in movies but none of it was to be.

But back to Carolyn. Her "style" reminds me of a 1990s Banana Republic.

I don't like whores, especially come whores.

Google John F Kennedy Jr+Kevin Hynes There's a lot to read between the lines. He was waiting in a Hyannis rental for John to arrive that weekend. I know Hynes. John's death sent him into a spiral.

Something about her style reads very Calvin Klein. I don’t follow fashion much, but is that what she wore?

Probaly, R143. In fact, she did PR for Calvin Klein.

Oh please, R79.

Bitch stole MY look.

Christina Haag said he wasn’t too bright also.

(R19) Where did you hear JFK jr wasn’t endowed? I remember some film critic said he caught a glimpse of him in the health club showers (and said he was a bit of an exhibitionist) and he said he was well endowed.

R143 Obviously her style was very much influenced by her time at Calvin Klein. Her wedding dress was made by Narcisso Rodriguez, a friend of hers who she put on the map by letting him design her dress. She also wore a lot of Prada and Yojhi Yamamoto. She had a black Birkin bag she used to carry and supposedly liked t-shirts from Petit Bateau. Apparently after John started George magazine, she made an effort to wear brands that didn’t advertise, so she wouldn’t be accused of playing favorites with those who chose to advertise in George.

OMG, this thread is so cunty!

Who would have been the best wife for JFK, Jr.?

She was homely, and no amount of Junior's attraction to her will ever change that fact.

He dicked boys at prep schools and Brown. He wasn't gay, barely bi. From girls or the occasional boy, he liked: the Kennedy worship, proof of his value as a star fuck, validation of his hunkiness, the "service me" aspect. He was hot AND a lazy lay. Suck my dick, give me your pussy or ass. He was warmer as a friend than a lover.

He fucked guys in the ass?

R111, You're looking at mostly dilated black pupils in that photo.

Men that beautiful and with this pedigree are usually entitled and lazy. They get everything handed to them.

R19 for what it's worth it was in 1987 and Madonna did look good back then (True Blue era) , before the insane plastic surgery

Sean Penn supposedly confronted JFK JR and punched him in the face

Yeah - I always got that "Her?" feeling looking at her. John Jr. was so beautiful, he would have looked great with someone that looked like a young Candace Bergen. Still blonde but beautiful and a bit aristocratic looking. Carolyn always looks unpleasant in her photos. She just looks like someone that was a real bitch. He should have had someone prettier and he certainly should have had someone nicer.

But she did have Michael Bergin too, as has been mentioned, so there must have been something special about her honeypot.

An ugly beard

If the stud was fucking men in NYC, at least one of them would have surfaced by now.....

I prefer the Carol Burnett style.

Carolyn Bessette's "style?" I don't think she had one, although when making public appearances she always tended to look the same: black dress, red lipstick and severely pulled back hair which emphasized her large nose and gaunt face. She bought a black dress to wear to Rory Kennedy's wedding, which of course they didn't attend due to John-John's ineptitude as a pilot.

Look at early photos of her; she was plain as hell, somewhat heavier and with long brunette hair. And look at her face; that is NOT a pretty face. But she somehow transformed herself into this supposedly irresistible to males creature by becoming very thin and dyeing her long hair very blonde. She was tall, skinny and blonde; for some men that is considered the epitome of beauty.

Off the Rack Chic

Used to see her in the East Village. She lived two streets over from my friend beforr Jr. She was not pretty. She was tall, probably 5'9", hair had blonde streaks in front, medium brown in back. She had saddle bags like Jackie and very sharp features. Not attractive- severe looking even then. Bitchy vibe.

No Thanks

She’s ugggg.

I remember the oddest details that came out after the crash. She kept having her nails redone to match a swatch she’d taken to the salon. The dress she bought for the wedding cost $1500.

The dress she bought for the wedding cost $10,000.

"The dress she bought for the wedding cost $10,000."

No, it didn't. She went to Saks to shop for a dress to wear to the wedding and according to reports:

She ended up buying a black silk crepe evening dress from the fall/winter collection of Rive Gauche, the ready-to-wear line by the French design house Yves Saint Laurent.

A Saks customer who observed Bessette Kennedy that afternoon said the lanky clotheshorse looked at many other dresses and tried on a fetching Armani number before deciding on the $1,630 cocktail frock.

Below-the-knee in length, the sophisticated cocktail frock featured a full, gathered bodice cinched in the back of the neck with a wide satin bow.

That cocktail frock is at the bottom of the ocean now, so who cares how much it cost??!!

The wedding dress was designed by her friend Narcisco Rodriguez, it wasn't off the rack.

I love this thread.

R170, you're talking about her own wedding dress. The others are talking about the dress she was supposed to wear to attend the wedding she and JFK were going to attend when their plane crashed.

Girls, girls, both wedding dresses were overpriced!

She was trash: she blew her wedding day by wearing a cheap 'slip dress,' no matter the cost (R8); and she clearly didn't know any better by selecting an ill-fitting skirt with brown boots accompanied by a black handbag (R87) -

I love all this fashion talk. Here's some more:

Bessette's wedding dress was"a pearl-colored sleeveless silk crepe gown with a draped front, with a piece of silk tulle first worn as a mantilla during the ceremony, then later as a shawl", created by her friend Narciso Rodriguez.

He also created her rehearsal dinner dress, " a calf-length nude chiffon sleeveless sheath, covered in caviar pearls, with a V-neck in front and a low V in back."

Wow cool you love it all, R175. Did you miss the consensus that CBK was a trashy cunt?

She didn't die, exactly. She re-animated and re-emerged as Anne Coulter.

I can’t picture this woman doing lines and swearing. But I’ve accepted it as true from the Vanity Fair days.

I’ll give her this, she gave good stunts. Her before-and-after pics are for the ages.

Rest In Peace

Is it to be commended that there are not a bunch of photos of the wedding dress or rehearsal dress out there? Low key! Discreet! Chic!

Stans gotta stan, I guess, R179. Despite endless visual and reported proof that she was fug, a bitch, a cunt, and not respected as any sort of style icon.

The reason he chose her to be his bride/wife/life-long partner: her abuse was familiar. His never being 'good enough'; his continually being a "disappointment" (failing the NY Bar, twice); his continual allure to the "wrong" choices (desire to be an actor, dating intellectually fleeting actresses, etc.) It was all about his need to win his mother's approval, manifested in CBK's continual abuse/rejection/forgiveness -

R 181. That makes me sad. I didn't know Jackie was emotionally abusive to her kids. Poor guy

"Did you miss the consensus that CBK was a trashy cunt?"

I never said I liked HER, did I? I just find fashion talk interesting.

I see Charlize has joined us at R61.

R179 Yes! It needed to be commended. I’m glad you brought it up. The fact that all these years later there is only about four photos from their wedding that have been released is SO CHIC.

JFK Jr. had this trashy “best friend” from when he was a teen who years later tried to sell footage from the wedding reception on a sketchy website. It was traced back to the friend and promptly removed. I never paid up, but I wanted to!

Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy dated the Benetton heir during her college years, she knew what she was doing !

Who cares.....she got to fuck Michael Bergin in his prime.......lucky bitch

In the interest of fairness, why are all the pearl clutches giving CBK a hard time for being a coke addict? Did all of you bitches sleep through the 80s and early 90s?

EVERYONE was running around Manhattan with a vial of blow. And this was when there was still good shit to be bought, unlike the junk that we all hear about nowadays.

The bitch would have ended up tucked away in 30 day rehab for “exhaustion”, had she lived, like many of us did.

And as big of a cunt as she was, I don’t blame her for the accident. John was solely responsible for that. Everyone could have flown commercial, or hired a pilot for the trip, especially when he was still walking on crutches.

Hopefully it was drip-dry.

R188 - The Bessette family sued the Kennedy's /JFK Jr's estate for exactly this reason - and won.

She wouldve been a fatass if she wasnt doing coke

John Kennedy Jr. really had a "type"... Carolyn is similar to Sarah Jessica Parker, in her face shape and nose, also blonde and blue eyed. I think he even dated SJP at one time.

R181 and r182, Jackie Onassis was never abusive. By all accounts she was a great mother. I think he married a type he was physically attracted to and overlooked her controlling qualities until they became unbearable (she probably go worse, too). He was ready to leave her (didn’t he already move out?).

CB-K was the American Princess Diana.

He was a very nice guy- reckless, but nice. She was a beauty and a mess- much like Diana, but mix in drugs. The poster who says everyone was doing coke in the 90s- no more so in that age group than today with a mix of other drugs or in the 70s or 80s. Drugs are a passage in life for all young people- everywhere. Some get taken down, most don’t. Sad story.

R195, Are you serious? And no, I saw her several times in person, she was not a beauty.

Princess Charlene of Monaco has a bit of Bessette’s style

She wasn't a beauty but she was what I would call striking looking. Not cookie cutter and not forgettable.

I don't feel sorry for men who marry cunts. JFK knew what he was getting.

Poor John-John wasn't very bright. He dated women who were SO unqualified to be a Kennedy wife/girlfriend (Sarah Jessica Parker, Madonna, Daryl Hannah). And Carolyn Bessette was as ill-equipped to to handle being the wife of a Kennedy (and the Prince of Camelot, no less) as any of them. I'm sure they would have eventually divorced. That marriage was surely doomed.

He would have been better off hooking up with Michael Bergin.

There were 500 appropriate girls at Brown. He could have taken any of the Rosey girls.

Actually she was a beauty- I saw her up close as well- then beauty is a subjective attribute, so... She was a mess, whether constitutionally or due to substance abuse I don’t know. John was a very nice young man- I got to know him a little bit in the late 80’s when we both used the Cole gym at NYU. Terribly tragedy- terrible.

bump

A "beauty?" Not with those facial features. The best adjective that can be used to describe her is "striking" and she certainly was; tall, very thin, with very long, very blonde hair. About that hair; can you imagine how much time and expense it took to keep hair that long that unnaturally blonde? I think her hair would have eventually started falling out from all that bleaching.

[quote]He never even had any awkward teenage years. Even during the long curly hair phase, you could see the hotness just waiting to be unleashed.

Not per the pic linked at R81.

[quote]All of you shut up and fuck off. Stop trashing them. No one will ever know for sure. Let them Rest In Peace. I remember little John John saluting his dead father next to Jackie. Just have some compassion and give it a rest

MARY! Somebody forgot which site they're on.

And he was never called "John John".

R149 Its DL what did you expect? First time at the rodeo?

This is how you dress.

Lee's been hungry for over 80 years.

I agree with the poster upthread. She was a beauty.

Beauty doesn’t present itself I just one way or a few ways. Her facial features were perfect on her and they worked. Surely many other men found her to be beautiful.

God, she was ugly!

I remember at the time of her wedding someone on AOL remarked she would be the new Jackie, to which another replied “Jackie would have worn a bra and some make-up to her wedding!”

LOL ^^^

I don't care much about her style, this woman was ruining this gorgeous man's life with her crazy ass antics. She didn't deserve to be John John's wife.

John John killed his wife and sister in law. That's beats whatever antics Carolyn was pulling.

Did JFK Jr date Princess Stephanie or Princess Caroline? Now THAT would have been a lovely union.

Her hand--it reminds me of someone's...

[quote] And he was never called "John John".

Yes, he was: by the public. They knew him by that name, and that's the name he still carries as a result.

Deal with it.

Carolyn hunted him down....she studied and calculated. The underwear model wrote in his book he found in her apartment the People magazine with John on cover, hidden under sink, from years before. He was with Darryl Hannah for years, famously....Carolyn came in as brunette, and morphed into replica of DH, but looked more like a pink eyed albino by end. She always went after the trophy of men.

I'm still amazed at that hair of hers. She was NOT a natural blonde; some charitably said her hair was naturally "light brown", but in photos it seemed darker than that. Anyway, I think she knew that having very long, very blonde hair would draw male attention like a magnet and surely it did. But God, can you imagine what it took to get her hair to look like that? One friend of John John's said she would dye her hair the color of "white corn." It must have cost a fortune to keep it up. And constant bleaching is NOT good for hair; I think eventually she would have had problems like loss of hair or even baldness. But the blonde hair evidently worked its magic. Being tall and eventually very skinny (she was heavier in her early youth) and with that long very blonde hair she knew she would stand out. And for some guys that constitutes great sexual allure; tall, thin, blonde. But her facial features didn't cut it when it came to beauty, not with that nose. But I guess all the blonde hair kind of made up for that.

With all these comments about "the nose", you seem unaware that CBK had a nose job during her college years. Google a "young CB" and you may be shocked at how hideous she was. Even after the 👃 surgery, I never found her attractive in the least not did any straight guys I knew. Consider, that with John Jr.'s well known narcissism, he had to be the beauty in the relationship. Hence, he was attracted to so- called "stylish"women who lacked stunning, drop dead gorgeous looks. His long term relationship with horseface herself, SJP, a case in point. A lot of very narcissistic straight guys go this route. Furthermore, John John was no saint. He had a coke buddy in Carolyn, much as he had with Daryl. However, CBK was a full blown addict and not an occasional partier like John.

Compare JFK Jr.'s looks to many of our DL faves of today. His looks were overrated on so many levels. I am not attracted to Ben Assfleck, God help me, but in terms of facial asthetics, he blows ( pun intended) Jr. out of the watah.

R221 I can second that scoop on Duh Hannah. I am friends with her former acting coach and she comes from a very wealthy Chicago family but is as dumb as a post. She was introduced to coke on the set of The Pope of Greenwich Village by Big Brother Roberts and Mickey Roarke. Ok, back to bashing CBK. Classic DL thread.

Maybe he just loved her.

Recreational coke use among people of JFK Jr.'s social strata was pretty standard in NYC in the 80s and 90s.

John was not in a long-term relationship with SJP. They dated.

Never thought john john was good looking. And Carolinr! Homely. As noted, tall, thin, and blond passes for attractive.

Not this bug eyed horseface again! Threads on her have been done to death here.

r219, what in god's name are you talking about? your post is incomprehensible.

If JFK Jr dated SJP, R192, that would seem to settle the gay questions.

R225 = Patrick Bateman

No r231, I believe r225 is Elizabeth Wurtzel.

JFK Jr. didn't take SJP, he just walked her around Central Park South.

I have to say....I’m fascinated by women, nothing special in looks, who know how to make the most of their looks and dominate in life. You know , really know how to play the game and get exactly what they want!. They can work straight men like nobody’s business....Pure charm, or manipulation? All of the interviews by friends of Carolyn’s say she looked better in real life, great personality, really nice. How did she do it? She didn’t treat him very nice at times, but she dominated him. Nice women seem to get no where in life. Or get used and involved with losers or abusers, or alone. How does one work it so well.?

^ She put her life in the hands of the man she "dominated" and ended up at the bottom of the ocean, though.

True, ..but of all the women who wanted him , she got him. Sucked how it ended.

I have no doubt that if they'd survived they would have eventually divorced. They were NOT compatible. She was not cut out to be a Kennedy wife. And what a horrific end awaited them. Can you imagine what their remains looked like, after being in a plane crash and then lying at the bottom of the ocean for days? Carolyn and John John, two of the world's beautiful people, rich, envied...and reduced to a pile of putrid flesh rotting in the sea.

One of the world's most beautiful people, and a bleached-blonde WHORE!

Always suspected that some sort of fight between them caused the crash. I can just picture that coked out bitch yelling and screaming at 2,000 feet. Causing ADD and vicodin addled John John to nosedive into history.

R48 could not be more spot on.

Didn't she punish him by not getting to the airport until dusk? Kept changing the shade of her nail polish while she had a pedicure or something.

There's that story that they got started late because Carolyn wanted her toes painted the exact shade (lavender with a hint of white) of the swatch of material she brought for reference and would not leave until it looked right. I don't know if that's really true. I heard several factors caused them to be running later, including her sister (she accompanied them on their doomed flight) getting off work later than intended. But I think it all came down to John John's incompetence as a pilot. If he's known how to pilot a plane they wouldn't have crashed.

So chic, so gorgeous, so rich, so fabulous, so connected..SPLAAAT