Why Young Men Have More Body Image Issues Than Ever Before
Hollywood is really screwing up these kids.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 569 | November 29, 2020 5:26 AM
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[QUOTE]“If you think about the changes over the last 30 to 45 years in how men are depicted in Hollywood, cartoons, magazines and action toys, you’ll see that men’s bodies today appear much more muscular,” says Dr. Harrison Pope, director of the Biological Psychiatry Laboratory at McLean Hospital in Massachusetts. These unrealistic media images have contributed to low body image satisfaction among men—usually just considered a problem for women. A study last year found that American men are just as likely as women to feel unsatisfied with their physiques, while another study found adolescent boys who are dissatisfied with their body shape may be more likely than girls to self-criticize and feel distress. Studies have even shown that men feel worse about their bodies after playing video games with ripped characters.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 9, 2018 3:47 PM
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It's a good pressure.
We need goals to strive for and bodies can be made.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 9, 2018 3:51 PM
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OP THIS ARTICLE IS A YEAR OLD
F&F
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 9, 2018 3:56 PM
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I love how every generation thinks that a common issue is unique to them. The desire to be handsome and muscular has been around for decades - or do Millennials and Gen Z's think that we grew up under a rock?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 9, 2018 3:58 PM
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A year old, R4? I guess we fixed that problem.
Next!
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 9, 2018 3:59 PM
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[QUOTE]The desire to be handsome and muscular has been around for decades - or do Millennials and Gen Z's think that we grew up under a rock?
Are you kidding me? What teens “decades ago” were walking around looking like this?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 8 | March 9, 2018 4:10 PM
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Teens don’t walk around looking like that now.
Every once and while you see a high school kid obviously on steroids but it doesn’t seem like an epidemic except on Instagram
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 9, 2018 4:16 PM
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Anus shaming has become rampant
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 9, 2018 4:25 PM
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Is it really all Hollywood to blame though? Seems too easy.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 9, 2018 4:40 PM
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It's HW, tv, Instagram, music video, magazines, facebook, etc.
It has been an issue for women since decades, now it's an issue for men too. Maybe things gonna change a bit.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 9, 2018 4:56 PM
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So it is an old article. It is still worthy of discussion.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 9, 2018 5:00 PM
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Where are all these young men? All I see are fat cunts
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 9, 2018 5:04 PM
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60's Batman, anything else to add?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 15 | March 9, 2018 5:06 PM
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A lot of these BDD guys are homophobic. Strangely enough.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 9, 2018 5:10 PM
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[QUOTE]Where are all these young men? All I see are fat cunts
How about the kid from R8?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 17 | March 9, 2018 5:11 PM
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Me think R17 doesn't get the point of OP's article.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 9, 2018 5:13 PM
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The kid posted at R17/R18/R19 is NOT the typical 20 year old who plays video games all day and then posts on 4chan and (until recently) the incel section on Reddit. There are much more of THEM than guys who look like this kid.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 9, 2018 5:21 PM
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[QUOTE]Teens don’t walk around looking like that now.
Yes, many of them do. Instagram is not some obscure thing, it has 800 million users worldwide, most of them young. Practically every teenager has an Instagram account and guys like R8 are a dime a dozen on there for a reason. Those young men are a reflection of their peers, they’re not outliers like R22 claims.
You also have to take into account the young men who don’t look like them, but are exposed to those images daily and feel shameful because they don’t look like them. That’s partially what the article is about. Just because a kid isn’t jacked and shredded doesn’t mean he possesses no desire to be so.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 9, 2018 5:23 PM
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Just like there's more plain Janes than Supermodels in the world.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 9, 2018 5:25 PM
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If you’re a young man in today’s world, then society is telling you that this is what you’re supposed to look like so you can take selfies on Instagram. Even if they don’t look like this, they still may feel shame due to their failure to achieve the ideal.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 25 | March 9, 2018 5:28 PM
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I'm so happy to have been a teen in the 90's without Instagram, facebook and steroid famewhores.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 9, 2018 5:30 PM
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Ok. Clearly there are more shredded Instahoes than shut-in gamers in the 18-24 demographic. My mistake.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 9, 2018 5:32 PM
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Not to mention that young men/teens have grown up their entire lives on a steady diet of easily accessible online porn. So they are seeing these sculpted porn gods with enormous cocks, and probably feel inadequate or like they have to measure up.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 9, 2018 5:35 PM
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[QUOTE]Ok. Clearly there are more shredded Instahoes than shut-in gamers in the 18-24 demographic. My mistake.
There are also more women who look like Rebel Wilson than Kate Upton. Does that mean that women don’t suffer from body image issues? Has Rebel Wilson become the standard and therefore no woman feels shame for looking like her? How fucking dense can you be?
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 9, 2018 5:37 PM
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Since apparently all the young men these days look like Instahoes, then this is a non issue.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 9, 2018 5:41 PM
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Believe it or not, shut in gamers are people with feelings who know what’s going on in the world. They’re capable of guilt and shame just like their female peers, and they know that the entertainment world and social media are telling them that they’re not really men unless they look like this:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 31 | March 9, 2018 5:42 PM
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I love how this has become a thread to plug instahos.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 9, 2018 5:43 PM
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[QUOTE]Since apparently all the young men these days look like Instahoes, then this is a non issue.
The problem with people like you is that you think of Instagram as this little box with most “normal” people quarantined from it. You can’t accept that it’s become a part of our lives and has enormous influence over human behavior.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 9, 2018 5:45 PM
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It's all about the Instahoes on Datalounge. They are DL gods and legends.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 9, 2018 5:45 PM
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[quote]I love how this has become a thread to plug instahos.
How exactly does that distinguish this thread from any other DL thread?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 9, 2018 5:46 PM
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[quote]You can’t accept that it’s become a part of our lives and has enormous influence over human behavior.
We know, we know. DL was told in plain terms from a bisexual teenager that Instagram was specifically created to take selfies. Nothing else.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 9, 2018 5:49 PM
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Not every gamer looks like.....THIS.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 38 | March 9, 2018 5:49 PM
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Here in Italy all the teen boys i see are either rail thin (worse than Chalamet, like they never ate food in their life) or already obese. Where are these muscled boys??
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 9, 2018 5:51 PM
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But they do, apparently! I want to believe!
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 9, 2018 5:51 PM
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Am I the only one who don't find those freaks attractive?
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 9, 2018 5:52 PM
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[quote]Where are these muscled boys??
You're not looking in the right places (i.e. Instagram). Which is indicative of the real world, of course.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 9, 2018 5:52 PM
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the IG troll has been AWAKENED!
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 9, 2018 5:53 PM
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[quote] and they know that the entertainment world and social media are telling them that they’re not really men unless they look like this
The hilarity of a sentiment like this being posted on DL where every man with 3 or more extra pounds on him is a fattie, and every thin man who doesn't take steroids is ugly and needs to go to the gym is simply beyond.
And no, R42, you are not.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 9, 2018 5:55 PM
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The IG troll is probably one of those who has less than a hundred followers yet follows thousands of hoes. I don't know where they find the time.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 9, 2018 5:56 PM
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[QUOTE]It's all about the Instahoes on Datalounge. They are DL gods and legends.
These so called “Instahoes” are just normal people taking pictures and uploading them, and their numbers are growing daily. They’re not some sub or superhuman entity the way you’d have us think. Instagram is a reflection of what hundreds of millions of people think and do in their daily lives.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 47 | March 9, 2018 5:57 PM
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Instagram is now the whole society? That's it, it's over.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 9, 2018 5:57 PM
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Yes, it is. 800 million users and counting.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 49 | March 9, 2018 5:58 PM
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More hoes..... MORE HOES!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 9, 2018 5:59 PM
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Instahoes are still the exceptions. A tiny minority.
Get outside a bit to see what most people look like.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 9, 2018 6:00 PM
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If you're not an Instahoe, you're not even a real person.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 9, 2018 6:00 PM
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They are not hoes. They’re guys who have been brainwashed into believing that they must look like this in order to be viable.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 53 | March 9, 2018 6:01 PM
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[quote] More hoes..... MORE HOES!
Here ya go, R50
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 54 | March 9, 2018 6:05 PM
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We should empathize with these young men, not belittle them.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 56 | March 9, 2018 6:09 PM
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I'm sure the struggle is real.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 9, 2018 6:12 PM
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Yeah, I feel real bad for them.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | March 9, 2018 6:12 PM
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Believe it or not, they’re under a tremendous amount of pressure.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 60 | March 9, 2018 6:14 PM
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All that flexing takes its toll on one's mental health.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 9, 2018 6:17 PM
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R15,.that's a real man with a real man's body. I've seen pictures of West shirtless, and he has a very nice body. The same with George Reeves as Superman. Real men and not pampered boys who need steroids and artificial enhancements to make pretend.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 9, 2018 6:20 PM
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Do you downplay the self esteem issues that women suffer from as well, R61?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 63 | March 9, 2018 6:20 PM
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What will happen to these guys? Porn? Prison?
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 9, 2018 6:27 PM
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Any grown ass woman who suffers from low self esteem because of Kim Kardashian or Nicki Minaj is ridiculous. But you only asked the question just to post another pic of a muscled teen.
R64, OnlyFans.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 9, 2018 6:33 PM
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[quote] What will happen to these guys? Porn? Prison?
Worse! They'll hit the wall of reality that is your thirties when their metabolism starts to change...
by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 9, 2018 6:33 PM
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It does seem like porn to me. Would an employer want to hire that?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 9, 2018 6:36 PM
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You're joking, R67? An office full of flexing young guys is a DL utopia!
by Anonymous | reply 69 | March 9, 2018 6:41 PM
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No, R68. Please post another typically muscled teen of today. Thank you.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 9, 2018 6:53 PM
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Instagram is not REAL people. I don't want to know how many filters have been used in those photos.
don't worry, those vapid instahios will face the real word when they turn 30, their dick will shrivel and grow bitch titties.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | March 9, 2018 7:04 PM
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Some very sexy bros posted here. Many thanks
by Anonymous | reply 72 | March 9, 2018 7:04 PM
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You're welcome, R72. I didn't post them but someone felt the need to with every reply to me. I know some of you can't go on without your Instagram fix.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | March 9, 2018 7:13 PM
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I'm a millenial. About half my friends who also game and spend time on reddit (all but one are straight) are in good shape. None are as buff as the muscle bros posted here but many have visible abs and I consider pretty attractive. Our generation is pretty health conscious generally I think. I don't think any of my male friends have low self esteem, even the overweight ones. I think the millennials that work out just like to look good.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | March 9, 2018 7:22 PM
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[quote] I don't want to know how many filters have been used in those photos.
Why don't you want to know?
by Anonymous | reply 75 | March 9, 2018 7:22 PM
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Yes, R71–I don’t see any of these same guys at my as they appear on their Instagram. They are really muscled out on instagram but not at all in the gym.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | March 9, 2018 7:31 PM
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[QUOTE]I don't think any of my male friends have low self esteem, even the overweight ones. I think the millennials that work out just like to look good.
Well looking good is apart of self esteem. You look good, you feel good.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 78 | March 9, 2018 7:39 PM
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R78 Sure, I more meant, I don't think any of the ones who work out have low opinions of themselves and that's why they do it.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | March 9, 2018 7:41 PM
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You never know what’s really going on inside someone’s mind. Sometimes the best looking people have the deepest insecurities.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 80 | March 9, 2018 7:55 PM
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Maybe R80 but I feel like I know my friends pretty well. Granted none look like THAT^^^ People who take it to that level have to be driven by something
by Anonymous | reply 81 | March 9, 2018 7:57 PM
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They are indeed driven by something. The question is what.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 82 | March 9, 2018 8:34 PM
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This is what manhood consists of today.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 83 | March 12, 2018 1:13 PM
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At least they aren’t obese.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | March 12, 2018 2:30 PM
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There’s plenty of room between those two extremes, R84.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 85 | March 12, 2018 2:37 PM
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Lol @ the irony of a thread about body image issues becoming a thirst trap. Never change, DL.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | March 12, 2018 2:44 PM
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R85 is an extremely sexy guy
by Anonymous | reply 87 | March 12, 2018 2:47 PM
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I just wanted to show examples of what the article was focused on since many insisted that young men aren’t under any kind of pressure.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 88 | March 12, 2018 2:47 PM
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Notice how this young man thinks lifting weights and being “aesthetic” is the only way he’ll be successful in life.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 89 | March 12, 2018 2:53 PM
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Dudes wanna be Alpha beasts like Ryan Spiteri
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 90 | March 12, 2018 6:46 PM
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It's Jeff Seid and Zyzz. They weren't just about bodybuilding but also made lots of vids of them picking up girls and such. That's the ideal these guys are going for
by Anonymous | reply 91 | March 12, 2018 6:58 PM
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Jordan Peterson's quasi-alt-right fortunes are rising among the gamers who can't/won't "get aesthetic"...
by Anonymous | reply 94 | March 12, 2018 7:32 PM
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[QUOTE]And where is Zyzz now?
For one, perhaps two generations of young men now, he’ll live forever. His name, message and image lives on through guys like this.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 95 | March 12, 2018 7:39 PM
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Whoever is posting all these instahos... thank you. Jay Cass is HOT
by Anonymous | reply 97 | March 12, 2018 7:45 PM
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If my 20-something kid was doing nothing but taking selfies, going to the gym, eating me out of house and home, and spending what little money he has on roids and supplements, I'd kick his ass to the curb.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | March 12, 2018 7:47 PM
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Even a lot of gamers and techie bros are jacked now. You should see our new IT hires. They look like Instagram fitness models.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | March 12, 2018 7:53 PM
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R99 is right. Here is shredded competitive video gamer and fitness model Doug Censor
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 100 | March 12, 2018 7:58 PM
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The "fan" is hotter than Jeff Seid here.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 102 | March 12, 2018 7:59 PM
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And remember that most guys aren’t walking around in spaghetti tank tops. Someone like this may not appear to be an Instagram fitness bro when he’s wearing a shirt or a hoodie. They’re all over the place even when you can’t notice.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 103 | March 12, 2018 8:00 PM
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Name of the "fan" at R102 please!!!
by Anonymous | reply 104 | March 12, 2018 8:01 PM
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A lot of former/current geeks and nerds find weighliftling and supplements to be the easiest way to “cool bro” status. They are right
by Anonymous | reply 105 | March 12, 2018 8:03 PM
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I'd love to listen that guy on the right in R102 be interviewed on Fresh Air.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | March 12, 2018 8:05 PM
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That guy is Jeff Seid, R107. He’s one of the originators of the modern day “aesthetics” movement.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 108 | March 12, 2018 8:12 PM
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Jeff has gotten uglier over time. Roids do that sadly. Who is the guy next to him at R102 though???
by Anonymous | reply 109 | March 12, 2018 8:15 PM
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That's his brother? What's his name?
by Anonymous | reply 111 | March 12, 2018 8:20 PM
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He’s not his brother. His name is Daniel Rumfelt. R102 is just him and Jeff Seid photoshopped together.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 112 | March 12, 2018 9:01 PM
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Jeff was a work of art in his prime. Unrealistic for most guys to go for that
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 116 | March 12, 2018 9:06 PM
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That’s not going to stop them from trying.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 117 | March 12, 2018 9:24 PM
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They need to build a bridge and get over it.
Women have had hundreds of years of it, with greater intensity.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | March 13, 2018 12:16 AM
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I love the juxtaposition of geekiness with muscled jock broness. All these geeky guys at my gym in glasses with python biceps and bubble butts are driving me wild!
by Anonymous | reply 120 | March 13, 2018 12:33 AM
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Adolescent males have been feeling pressured to buff up for decades now. It's the level of self-absorption in the instaho set that I find deeply unattractive.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | March 13, 2018 1:11 AM
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They have thousands of people telling them how good they look every day. Hard not to become self absorbed
by Anonymous | reply 122 | March 13, 2018 1:15 AM
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I love the male office muscled new interns dressed in their form-fitting shirts and pants. They look almost pornographic with jacked v-shaped sculpted torsos about to burst forth, thunder thighs, and huge bUbble butts. They to The gym every day!
by Anonymous | reply 123 | March 13, 2018 1:22 AM
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[QUOTE]It's the level of self-absorption in the instaho set that I find deeply unattractive.
But would things be any different without Instagram? Or would we just not see it?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 124 | March 13, 2018 1:23 AM
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Instagram is not the only cause, but it’s a huge accelerant and motivator. Gymspiration is headquartered at instagram
by Anonymous | reply 127 | March 13, 2018 1:26 AM
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My personal belief is that the problem would exist even without Instagram. This guy would still look the same even without Instagram.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 128 | March 13, 2018 1:36 AM
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The overdeveloped muscle and vascular definition is unattractive to me. The men start to look like lumps of meat rather than human beings.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | March 13, 2018 3:50 AM
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You can’t just blame Hollywood anymore.
Yeah, every young actor now has to be an anabolic power lifter. That’s a given and a change from yesteryear. Yeah, every actor is now paid according to the size of his tit—er, pecs, as woman always have been.
But I’d wager a greater influence now is Instagram. The types of guys who DLers worship, even as you hate Kardashians for being famous for their asses, these Instagram “personalities” (naked people) are famous for their bodies and faces and nothing else. And so guys lift and starve themselves, take pictures, and either become grandiose or depressed based on their numbers of followes and image likes.
And most of the guys here love this and fuel it. I don’t like it. I grew up with serious body image problems for a number of reasons and as 40 approaches I care less than I ever have. I do think it’s fucked up that women have lived this way for at least centuries and instead of improving on that, it’s instead become more equal by giving young men feelings of inadequacy and self-disgust, too. Pretty fucked up if you ask me.
But I know: you’ll tell me to stop whining and shut up, and the here’s-a-bodybuilder-from-Instagram threads will keep appearing with greater frequency. You can’t change things that no one wants to change. People love to set up unrealistic expectations to make themselves and others always feel inadequate.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | March 13, 2018 11:47 AM
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R128 Chances are that he wouldn’t look like that without IG unless he is a professional bodybuilder or a porn star. Male models, actors, and everyday guys did not look like that even 15 years ago.
True story: I know a guy who works for a national radio station. He’s kind of an artsy geeky guy. 20, 15, 10 years ago he had a cute face and a slender body and he basically looked like a twinky gay guy. He used to say he had never seen the inside of a gym, sort of as an “in your face” to body-obsessed gay guys. Then Instagram came along. At first he posted pictures of himself hanging out with friends (lots of women), and then over time he started bulking up, the clothes started coming off, and almost all of his selfies now are at least shirtless (many in swimwear or underwear) and almost all of them with other shirtless/almost naked bodybuilder-type guys—lots of them, in groups. I am envious of the photos of his life on a certain visceral aesthetic level and I’m sure that is the point. On a more overt level, I’ve been sad to watch this transition. This guy went to a top toer university and he has what would be a dream job for many and now it seems showing off his pecs and ripped abs and showing off that his friends have pecs and ripped abs, most of their pictures looking like covers of gay porn movies, is his priority. Maybe that’s a gay dream for some but to me it’s sad to see an interesting person reduced to that following the advent of Instagram.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | March 13, 2018 11:55 AM
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I don't think R112 is correct... The noses are different.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | March 13, 2018 1:24 PM
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[QUOTE]Chances are that he wouldn’t look like that without IG unless he is a professional bodybuilder or a porn star. Male models, actors, and everyday guys did not look like that even 15 years ago.
Your story was interesting but I disagree with this part. Social circles and peer pressure to conform would still exist without Instagram. Your friend might have eventually done the same thing without it, just minus the selfies.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 140 | March 13, 2018 2:20 PM
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Yes, I concur that the male aesthetics fixation has reached an unhealthy level. However, I am still strongly attracted to jacked dudes and don’t think it can be changed. It’s like telling folks eating bacon is unhealthy. People are going to still naturally be attracted to Buff dudes.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | March 13, 2018 5:14 PM
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Exterior versus sustainable
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 144 | March 13, 2018 6:19 PM
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R144, he makes a good point. I think everyone should just aim for 10%, not 6-7%.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 145 | March 13, 2018 6:21 PM
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[quote] They weren't just about bodybuilding but also made lots of vids of them picking up girls and such. That's the ideal these guys are going for.
Then they’re idiots who don’t know the first thing about women.
When a female sees a body like the ones posted above, the first thought is rarely a drooling “wantwantWANT” as for many a gay man; it’s more, “this guy could so easily kill or maim me”. Whether it’s roids or narcissism these jacked guys red-flag for grown women, and it’s only naive horny little girls that think otherwise.
It’s also obvious to most women that men like this are into themselves and consequently will be poor listeners & conversationalists, which is another point against as women want to be wooed & charmed more than flexed at.
A man whose main priority is his body and impressing his gym buddies or his IG folllowers is not an attractive prospect to any woman, particularly not one who wants a relationship. Even the Thots find these guys tiresome, especially if they aren’t rich. It’s boring, dealing with men like that.
These RedPill idiots would get further with woman if they developed social skills, nurtured a personal talent, became stylish, and:or got involved in the Arts or business. Being interesting & engaged with the world is a really attractive quality, as is being able to make your own money doing something you love or that is beautiful or fascinating.
Authentic charm and seductive skill help, too. If morbidly obese or fug as a male, it’s wild how far good tailoring & good humor plus an attentive love style can take you straight women. No gym required.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | March 13, 2018 8:59 PM
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Or gay men, R146. Well said. Brilliantly said.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | March 14, 2018 1:28 AM
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We’re trying to have a serious discussion here, R147.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | March 14, 2018 1:30 AM
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I’m really tired of the cookie cutter gym bodies. Whoever thought that would happen? They’re a dime a dozen, insipid and they spend their lives working out and making love to themselves through a smartphone camera and projecting their self-lust to anyone in the public who will click a little heart button. It’s deranged. People are not even living anymore. They can’t take their eyes off of themselves.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | March 14, 2018 1:38 AM
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How much time do they really spend “worshipping themselves,” though? It only takes one second to take a picture. Maybe this is just what gives them the self confidence to pursue other goals in life.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 152 | March 14, 2018 1:48 AM
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I’m happy with this pressure. Get thee to a gym!
by Anonymous | reply 154 | March 14, 2018 1:53 AM
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But they’re not just hitting the gym. They’re hitting illegal substances as they strive for “aesthetic” perfection.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 155 | March 14, 2018 4:09 AM
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I think it’s called peer pressure.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 160 | March 14, 2018 12:51 PM
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[QUOTE]Michael Webster, 35, from Commando Flow said young men unrealistically told themselves the perfect body was achievable overnight.
[QUOTE]“I can see why it’s an issue with social media ... people think they have to look a certain way,” the Vaucluse resident said.
[QUOTE]But trainer Dylan Rivier, 37, from Bondi, said most of his male clients simply wanted to look “lean and athletic”
[QUOTE]“Most guys will tell you they don’t want to be a big bodybuilder,” he said.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | March 14, 2018 2:18 PM
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I think these kids become obsessed with Instagram filters.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | March 16, 2018 12:16 AM
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[QUOTE]A man whose main priority is his body and impressing his gym buddies or his IG folllowers is not an attractive prospect to any woman, particularly not one who wants a relationship. Even the Thots find these guys tiresome, especially if they aren’t rich. It’s boring, dealing with men like that.
These guys don’t seem to have trouble finding women, however.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 167 | March 16, 2018 12:34 AM
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Exactly, chicks are throwing themselves at aesthetics bros. Hot chicks. Some people here are stuck in 1974.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | March 16, 2018 12:44 AM
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R172 they’re trophy boyfriends, though. These girls aren’t imagining marrying or building a life or starting a family with guys like this. They’re disposable man-candy.
For keeps most normal straight women want a wealthy attentive respectable man who will treat them like a lady, ‘do right’ by them and their kids, buy them a house and please their parents etc. They aren’t hoping for a ring from the trashy Insta-ho.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | March 16, 2018 12:56 AM
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So just because a guy lifts weights and posts pics on Instagram means he can’t be a respectable man who will do right by them? What exactly makes these guys “trashy”?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 175 | March 16, 2018 1:35 AM
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These guys are a huge, huge turn off now.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | March 16, 2018 1:42 AM
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Without reading the thread or the article,it makes perfect sense. Everyone is ripped in media and male fitness is celebrated. Tons of porn guys have six packs, a tight round ass and a big dick. Boys/young men can't help that you have to have this to get ahead in life, sex, relationships.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | March 16, 2018 1:42 AM
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SO many personal ads now say that you are not worthy of consideration unless you have ripped abs, huge pecs, and python biceps. It’s a necessity to date hot guys.
by Anonymous | reply 183 | March 16, 2018 1:45 AM
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[QUOTE]Everyone is ripped in media and male fitness is celebrated.
[QUOTE]SO many personal ads now say that you are not worthy of consideration unless you have ripped abs, huge pecs, and python biceps.
Exactly. Which is why I believe we’re looking at victims on Instagram, not perpetrators.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 184 | March 16, 2018 1:53 AM
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All my life, most of my female friends have dated jockish guys on and off (and gotten off on it), and then latched onto a schlumpy, decent guy and married him. Anything other than that has been an exception to the rule.
Today, I notice that the younger women I work with seem to be a lot more like guys always have been: they want a standardized version of ‘hot’ first, and then money, and then prestige, and they are very distressed over having a hard time finding this guy in DC. Several of the young women (25 - 30) I’ve worked with have been actual competitive weight lifters and CrossFit addicts who measure out their protein/carb/fat ratios and are super aggressive, and all of these women have had trophy boyfriends whom they seemed more bothered by than in love with; they act the way men in their 20s are expected to act. It’s very odd to me to witness this. The whole gender fluidity thing really is more than just how people dress; guys are becoming more self-conscious, image based, narcissistic based on appearances and self-involved, and the girls are becoming harder, more objectifying, career driven and overall have a harder time settling on a guy because they need someone Instagram-hot.
That’s just my read as an outside observer.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | March 16, 2018 10:04 AM
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This Instragam shit is fucking ridiculous. How do they get those bodies if they never leave their BATHROOMS. So all these twit fucks do is work out and take pictures of themselves? That sounds interesting.
by Anonymous | reply 189 | March 16, 2018 10:50 AM
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The sad truth is that people put themselves under stress and pressure to assimilate and fit in. It's not "I do this to feel better about myself / feel healthier /feels right for me / etc.", but "the only way I get accepted by others / my peers / etc. is by doing what they do".
Of course social media or the gaming community do not represent ALL of males, but they represent social norms that are being pushed or promoted.
by Anonymous | reply 190 | March 16, 2018 11:01 AM
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What amazes me is how you're all fooled by the packaging. The most important thing is that we raise kids to have values. If you work out and drink your protein shakes and look terrific, that's all wonderful but you should be a decent human being first and foremost. There are decent people who look like schlubs and decent people who look amazing. There are assholes who look like schlubs and assholes who look amazing. Appearance does not tell you everything about the person.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | March 16, 2018 12:13 PM
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Appearance does not tell you everything about the person.
With all due respect, R191, are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?
by Anonymous | reply 192 | March 16, 2018 12:19 PM
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Working out in the early AM at my gym is the best time because everyone there has white hair. Nobody is taking selfies, nobody is taking pics of you, they aren’t following you around—it’s wonderful.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | March 16, 2018 12:25 PM
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[QUOTE]There are decent people who look like schlubs and decent people who look amazing.
Exactly. Judging one by their weight lifting routine is preposterous. And Instagram selfies have become so commonplace that you can’t really judge someone for posting them, either. The days of “Instathots” being the only ones posting shirtless selfies is long gone. This is now a normal thing:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 194 | March 16, 2018 12:33 PM
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That's what you get when people are raised to seek validation from others. What else is Instagram but to seek validation through how many followers you have? And the things you do to get those followers.
These days it's not enough to be a good person. You need to show people how good of a person you are, because you being a good person doesn't mean anything when nobody else is validating you for being a good person. Same goes with having a super hot and / or healthy body.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | March 16, 2018 12:55 PM
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R193, that’s exactly why I don’t work out in the morning: no hot dudes. When I go in the evening, the gym is packed with hot, ripped jacked bros flexing in skintight compression wear. This is true gymspiration that keeps me working out and eating clean. Evenings are for hotties.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | March 16, 2018 1:58 PM
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[QUOTE]What else is Instagram but to seek validation through how many followers you have? And the things you do to get those followers.
It’s a social platform. Your goal may not be getting millions of followers. Many just use it to broadcast a message and image to the world while picking up a few friends along the way.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 199 | March 17, 2018 1:01 AM
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THere is an attitude that comes with the physique
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 202 | March 18, 2018 1:09 AM
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^^Guess Cobra Kai never die, huh...
by Anonymous | reply 203 | March 18, 2018 1:11 AM
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Does no one recognize the irony that a thread asking why young men have psychological disorders related to body image immediately devolved into people posting gratuitous Instagram photos of half naked young men who almost certainly are either narcissists or have eating disorders in an effort to be hot enough to broadcast his abs daily?
by Anonymous | reply 204 | March 18, 2018 1:13 AM
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“1 in 10 men ages 18-34 (9%) have been teased, ridiculed, ‘trolled’ or ‘body shamed’ about their appearance or weight online or on social media.”
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 205 | March 18, 2018 1:14 AM
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R205, that seems like an underestimate
by Anonymous | reply 206 | March 18, 2018 1:16 AM
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"That's what you get when people are raised to seek validation from others. "
It's not just INstagram. It's everything, including forums like DL. Whether on purpose or not, a lot of people constantly seek validation through the internet, social media, texting, etc. I see it in adults raised nowhere near such technology as well.
by Anonymous | reply 207 | March 18, 2018 1:18 AM
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[QUOTE]“1 in 10 men ages 18-34 (9%) have been teased, ridiculed, ‘trolled’ or ‘body shamed’ about their appearance or weight online or on social media.”
Is it any wonder why they strive so hard to look like this?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 209 | March 18, 2018 2:51 AM
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I'm glad all these hot young men have body issues. Hit the gyms then hit Mama's mussy.
by Anonymous | reply 214 | March 18, 2018 3:13 AM
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Way to revel in the misery of others, R214.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 215 | March 18, 2018 4:01 AM
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As long as the average American is grotesquely overweight, I don’t want to hear that the pressure to be fit is a bad thing.
More people not caring about diet and fitness is the widespread epidemic and much more dangerous.
by Anonymous | reply 220 | March 18, 2018 4:06 AM
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Show me some black And brown ones.
by Anonymous | reply 221 | March 18, 2018 10:26 AM
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r220, the problem is that some people see these ideals and get even more depressed and eat their feelings.
Our society throws a lot of shit at us. "You are only worth something when you are rich / powerful / look like a model / etc." We are not supposed to be happy about who we are, because we are supposed to compare us to others who are way more richer / powerful / prettier and - as a result - make us feel like shit. Making us easy pickings for snake oil salesmen selling us all kinds of bullshit.
by Anonymous | reply 222 | March 18, 2018 12:05 PM
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R198: pathetic, 58 y/o self described muscle queen who thinks by using all the right buzz words, (ripped, jacked, swole, etc.), the "gym bro dudes" will let him suck their cocks.
So sad.
by Anonymous | reply 223 | March 18, 2018 2:57 PM
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Actually R223 these guys seem to enjoy looks of jealousy and admiration from other males in the gym. So R198’s behavior is probably welcomed.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 225 | March 21, 2018 12:33 PM
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I really cannot get over the public encouragement of pathological narcissists today. These people are going to be as fucked in the head as Donald Trump is when they get older, and they’re going to fuck up a lot of things for a lot of people.
by Anonymous | reply 226 | March 21, 2018 12:36 PM
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But would it be any different without Instagram? They’d still be lifting weights. They’d still be narcissistic.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 227 | March 21, 2018 12:40 PM
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Good god...are any of them NOT on roids?
by Anonymous | reply 228 | March 21, 2018 12:44 PM
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I grew up in the 80s and 90s and the only gay role models I had were gay porn actors. Straight acting, muscular, etc. compared to the handful of out gay celebrities who tended to be more like Paul Lynde or Jm J Bullock. So, yes, I thought having a great body was my key to happiness. If I could transform, then I could get what I wanted, be respected, be fuckable. Needless to say, no matter what I did, I never felt that way. I didn't sense straight guys had the same issues until the last 10-15 years. Now it seems we all feel this way. I'm fucked up so I'm assuming it is the same for this generation as a whole now. Finally I'm normal!
by Anonymous | reply 229 | March 21, 2018 1:04 PM
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[QUOTE]Good god...are any of them NOT on roids?
I actually think that most of the guys posted in this thread just do it through dieting and weightlifting. They’re not really that big.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 230 | March 21, 2018 1:16 PM
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Our bodies have not evolved, our ability to locate , purchase and use PEDs has evolved exponentially. When these Facebook/Instagram bros hit 40 they will be faced with mental issues surrounding not being young/hot forever and deep, deep depression . Suicide rates will soar. Physically , after years of testosterone and GHB overuse their bodies will no longer make testosterone naturally, they will need to go on HRT to maintain a normal testosterone level. Bodies will shrink , cardiovascular issues and cancers will become pandemic. Wait until 2025-2030 you will start seeing this.
by Anonymous | reply 231 | March 21, 2018 1:35 PM
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But life has evolved. We have way more leisure time: many spend theirs on the couch racking up Netflix hours or in front of their computer watching cat videos and shopping and on Pornhub. What if people spent it in the gym? I think that’s what these guys are doing: showing that which the human body is capable if one dedicates all of their free time to weightlifting. Just like guys in prison who come out buff. Why? Because all they do is eat and lift weights.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 232 | March 21, 2018 1:46 PM
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r230, being on roids doesn't necessarily mean you have to be huge.
by Anonymous | reply 235 | March 21, 2018 1:49 PM
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R235 If you are on roids and work out everyday, you will swell in size even if you aren't trying to. Skinny guys who are just ripped but not particularly large almost certainly aren't on it. It doesn't produce that kind of look
by Anonymous | reply 236 | March 21, 2018 1:52 PM
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Well you need to have some kind of additional proof. You can’t just point at every guy who lifts weights and scream “Roidz!”
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 237 | March 21, 2018 1:57 PM
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When you have a guy who is HUGE but still shredded, that's almost certainly roids. Nearly impossible to put on that much muscle cleanly. The one exception is very short guys, less than 5'9". Short guys put on muscle easier than taller guys.
by Anonymous | reply 238 | March 21, 2018 1:59 PM
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There are always signs
R237's pic is not likely roids
r232 = roids
by Anonymous | reply 239 | March 21, 2018 2:01 PM
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[QUOTE]When you have a guy who is HUGE but still shredded, that's almost certainly roids. Nearly impossible to put on that much muscle cleanly.
Yeah but they don’t put it on “cleanly.” They just rarely show you what they look like while they’re fat and bloated from putting the weight on. They take a bunch of pics and show off while they’re lean but when it’s time to bulk they’re wearing extra clothes and either stop posting shirtless or use some old pics from when they were still lean.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 240 | March 21, 2018 2:05 PM
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Men never had issues till the gays.
by Anonymous | reply 241 | March 21, 2018 2:24 PM
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excuse you R241? care to elaborate?
by Anonymous | reply 242 | March 21, 2018 2:26 PM
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I would not be surprised if, when the book on this male “aesthetics” period is written, the first few pages deal with gay worship of the male physique in its extreme form. Might R241 be onto something?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 243 | March 21, 2018 3:19 PM
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The Next phase will be the production of supplements that attain the results of steroids without the negative side effects. SARMS is less dangerous than steroids, but it still suppresses natural testosterone and likely has negative cardiovascular and carcinogenic effects. Companies are now trying to develop supplements that have supplements that will get Dudes ripped and swole in a much safer way than SARMS.
by Anonymous | reply 246 | March 21, 2018 3:29 PM
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Can you imagine the money to be made, R246? Wish I could invest in that crap...
by Anonymous | reply 247 | March 21, 2018 3:32 PM
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There will never be a supplement that can alter the makeup of human hormones without producing side effects.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 248 | March 21, 2018 3:58 PM
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Well even ordinarily medicine such as aspirin and Flonase has side effects, but I think the risks and side effects can be muted for at least modest aesthetic results. Already creatine and whey protein provide results a mass market that would have been unthinkable 50 years ago. I think there can be a class of supplements that go beyond creatine, BCAA, whey that is not much more harmful.
by Anonymous | reply 249 | March 21, 2018 4:39 PM
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Well if you’re right, this could be the beginning of a long trend.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 250 | March 22, 2018 5:02 AM
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Models recreate Calvin Klein advert to open up the conversation around men’s body image
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 253 | March 23, 2018 1:00 AM
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Supplement use is skyrocketing
by Anonymous | reply 255 | March 30, 2018 1:16 PM
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[quote]Men never had issues till the gays.
Men, gays, same thing. But you wouldn't understand that, not having a male reproductive system, and all.
by Anonymous | reply 259 | March 30, 2018 1:30 PM
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Interesting names on all these muscle guys: Qwin, Xander, Lolo, Kamil.
by Anonymous | reply 261 | March 31, 2018 12:10 PM
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They matter a little too much to guys like this.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 266 | April 10, 2018 11:55 AM
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I just clicked this thread for the first time. Its a month old. Obviously it quickly morphed into an opportunity for sad DL Instaho trolls to post pics of Instahos. Predictable and pathetic.
by Anonymous | reply 269 | April 10, 2018 12:08 PM
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It is porn which influenced Hollywood, then instagram etc.
by Anonymous | reply 270 | April 10, 2018 12:15 PM
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Mathew Zeven is Boss, yo!
by Anonymous | reply 271 | April 10, 2018 10:04 PM
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Buff dudes get mad respect
by Anonymous | reply 272 | April 11, 2018 3:17 AM
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Part of what’s driving them is a yearning of respect from peers.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 273 | April 11, 2018 3:47 AM
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YEAh, and more guys than ever want to be Alphas or hotties. Physique is considered important to attwijg those goals. Also, guys want to date and have access to hotties, and you need to have the bod to mingle with hotties today, male or female.
by Anonymous | reply 276 | April 11, 2018 3:51 AM
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Alphas my ass. Fully bloomed body dysmorphia for a decade or two doesn't make one an alpha. Exceptional professional achievement does. As does being a brilliant and generous lover, friend, and son, for the long haul.
by Anonymous | reply 277 | April 11, 2018 4:40 AM
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R277, tell that to drooling Millennials and Gen Zers who proclaim swole fitness bros “Alpha,” “Zaddies.” Old timer definitions are not relevant.
by Anonymous | reply 278 | April 11, 2018 6:55 AM
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Millennials are fat af. Just because the hot ones are hot doesn't mean it's mainstream.
by Anonymous | reply 279 | April 11, 2018 7:00 AM
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Gen Z is even fatter, R279.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 280 | April 11, 2018 7:03 AM
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I ignore Hollywood and the types who run it. Anything for a buck my mom would say. She also says they'd rob the eyes out of your head if they could.
by Anonymous | reply 281 | April 11, 2018 7:44 AM
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OK thanks R278. So in their slang, Alpha just means big muscles. I suspect its the old gay DLers who are drooling the most.
Urban dictionary for Alpha:
"Usually used as a term for a badass male who attracts women without trying. His superiority and pure confidence allows him to achieve success. He does not WANT, because he is the WANTED. May also be used to describe a "manly" achievement or situation."
Even in the urban dictionary it seems to mean more than muscles, more like the general meaning - leader.
I don't know if girls and young women are automatically all over muscle bodies. Are they? Confident, handsome, and sure, fit. I thought girls liked pretty faces, fit bodies, nice asses and charm. I think a lot of people want a young man who is judged to be headed to or already in a lucrative profession.
by Anonymous | reply 282 | April 11, 2018 9:08 AM
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They wouldn’t be doing this if it resulted in negative feedback from girls.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 283 | April 11, 2018 12:50 PM
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They all look the same.
At any rate, I’ve always been hot for bearish types. Beefy with body hair.
So I’ve aged out of an IG phenomenon that was never for me in the first place. Sort of like dodging a bullet that was never aimed at me.
by Anonymous | reply 289 | April 12, 2018 11:45 AM
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R282, you realize Urban Dictionary has pages of definitions of Alpha? One is: Alpha A male person that is physically and mentally superior than most other males, making him a sexual target for females. The opposite of this would be a beta.
by Anonymous | reply 290 | April 12, 2018 12:10 PM
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After reading this thread I have more body issues than ever before.
by Anonymous | reply 291 | April 12, 2018 1:16 PM
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I don't have any body image issues now, bitches.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 300 | April 17, 2018 12:30 PM
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Steroids aside, how healthy is it long-term to have that little body fat and the be consuming all the extra protein via shake or powder? I don't think all of the "natural" supplements are necessarily that good for you either.
I do like a nice flat stomach and can appreciate a nice six pack, but I think when you cross the line of being ultra defined where it no longer looks natural and is not as attractive to me.
by Anonymous | reply 301 | April 17, 2018 12:43 PM
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Cheetos are "really screwing up these kids."
by Anonymous | reply 302 | April 17, 2018 5:55 PM
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R301 No studs are doing it for you, babe.
by Anonymous | reply 303 | April 17, 2018 5:58 PM
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[QUOTE]Steroids aside, how healthy is it long-term to have that little body fat and the be consuming all the extra protein via shake or powder?
I’m not an advocate for the lifestyle that these young men choose, but it’s certainly not for that reason. Who gives a shit about the “long term”? A long term isn’t even guaranteed. You better live for today as much as you can. And for Justin here, this is how he’s living the dream.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 304 | April 18, 2018 1:02 PM
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I WAS talking to a Fitness bro who advised everyone to get a doctor who is “sports nutritionist” and will monitor my health as I take potent supplements
by Anonymous | reply 308 | April 20, 2018 7:16 PM
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What “supplements” did he recommend?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 309 | April 20, 2018 11:39 PM
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The Male aesthetics community offers intense male bonding and adoration.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 312 | April 21, 2018 12:25 PM
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It's usually the smaller guys, who become obsessed about getting buff . You don't see a lot of really tall guys who are bodybuilding fanatics.
by Anonymous | reply 315 | April 21, 2018 12:50 PM
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That’s because it’s easier for short guys to pack on muscle.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 316 | April 21, 2018 12:53 PM
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Tall dudes have a very hard time looking muscled
by Anonymous | reply 319 | April 21, 2018 12:55 PM
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They’re starting out so early now.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 321 | May 2, 2018 2:59 PM
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THe FDA needs to regulate supplements
by Anonymous | reply 324 | May 5, 2018 10:01 PM
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The sad part is, IF these guys reach old age, they will all look like deflated baloons....see Arnold and Sly for examples.
by Anonymous | reply 325 | May 5, 2018 10:42 PM
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While our boys are taking selfies, wallowing in narcissism, and measuring their self worth through amassing Instagram followers, I have a sense that their Chinese equivalents are picking up the slack in AI innovation, engineering, and remaking the world from Africa to Hong Kong.
by Anonymous | reply 332 | May 7, 2018 1:23 AM
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You obviously haven’t been following the Hot Asian Muscle Dudes thread
by Anonymous | reply 333 | May 7, 2018 1:29 AM
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[quote] While our boys are taking selfies, wallowing in narcissism, and measuring their self worth through amassing Instagram followers, I have a sense that their Chinese equivalents are picking up the slack in AI innovation, engineering, and remaking the world from Africa to Hong Kong.
I have a feeling that there are plenty of American, pencil-neck nerds who couldn't bench-press the bar but who have been doing computer programming since they were kids.
by Anonymous | reply 337 | May 7, 2018 1:48 AM
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I fucking hope so.
They will have a much easier time of it turning thirty and forty, when the bloom is off and the repetitive motion injuries start to crank up.
I am guessing the phenomenon of Asian musclemen is more a US than an Asian thing, but the internet can spread an infection instantaneously.
Maybe everyone is destined to be like the human Ken doll in the future. A new aesthetic awaits.
by Anonymous | reply 338 | May 7, 2018 1:53 AM
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PLENty of geeks and nerds are muscle aesthetics bros.
by Anonymous | reply 339 | May 7, 2018 1:56 AM
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This guy’s a software developer.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 340 | May 7, 2018 2:17 AM
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Put down those carbs, dudes!
by Anonymous | reply 343 | May 7, 2018 5:02 PM
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University professor here, often ogling the cute guys in the cafeteria. The jacked 20 year olds are few and often the most obnoxious, kind of leveling out some gains they've made living at the gym in terms of getting positive attention from the girls [and guys] around them. From what I observe the pretty girls here are way more impressed by friendliness and "normalcy" though some do hang onto the gym crowd. The truly gorgeous men, as always, are those with great genes; while muscles help, nothing compares to natural hotness, often devoid of big biceps.
by Anonymous | reply 344 | May 7, 2018 5:49 PM
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344 here -- coincidentally to this thread one of the classes I teach is substance abuse, and we cover steroids for a week every semester. When students are sharing their high school and college experiences with steroid users, both in dating and social settings, the responses are uniformly negative..."at first he was hot but would get angry"..."he had no dick" [Really a reference to the common smaller balls among many steroid users which tends to shrink penis size a little]..."once he stopped it was obvious where he got his muscles"..."I helped inject them in his ass in the school gym"...[and my favorite quote from a former girlfriend] "he had a good complexion but tons of zits on his huge upper back!" Not sure if that last one was a steroids thing.
by Anonymous | reply 345 | May 7, 2018 6:16 PM
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OTher dudes look up to you and say your physique is “goals.”
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 350 | May 18, 2018 6:27 PM
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I love it how in the gym so many nearly naked dudes have other guys snapping pics of them flexing in the lockerroom. Never has the pumped male bod been so exalted.
by Anonymous | reply 351 | May 18, 2018 6:29 PM
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Dudes are so proud and fraternal about their jacked physiques. Aesthetics is family
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 352 | May 27, 2018 11:22 AM
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Most guys wanna be Alphas.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 353 | May 27, 2018 12:09 PM
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All the men need to ripped while the women can be fat Cows. It's like bizarro world
by Anonymous | reply 354 | May 27, 2018 7:35 PM
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A lot of chicks are into bodybuilding now
by Anonymous | reply 355 | May 27, 2018 8:01 PM
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I always have to laugh at those instahoes . Even when they are so beautiful with perfect bodies I get bored to look at them after a while . They’re disposable and interchangeable with each other . Maybe it’s because I need something more than just astaethics ? Some shred of intellect maybe ?
by Anonymous | reply 356 | May 28, 2018 11:41 AM
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Why do people keep referencing "supplements"? The majority of these pics are roids.
by Anonymous | reply 358 | May 28, 2018 11:55 AM
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Dudes today are afraid to even take their shirts off at the beach or pool if they aren’t jacked or ripped. Aesthetics have become just as big for males as for females, and muscles matter.
by Anonymous | reply 359 | May 28, 2018 12:00 PM
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So many guys have Bodybuilding.com shirts on these days
by Anonymous | reply 363 | May 28, 2018 12:11 PM
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R353 Not all, but I surely would like to have one in my bedroom
by Anonymous | reply 365 | May 28, 2018 2:00 PM
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Train legs twice per week for max gains
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 378 | June 1, 2018 1:27 PM
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Some of these pics are kind of creepy. They are all obviously very fit - and some are hot, but some are so out of proportion that they look like caricatures. I would imagine with some it is also an addiction that is interfering with other parts of their lives. Plus, who knows what some are putting into their bodies.
by Anonymous | reply 379 | June 1, 2018 2:26 PM
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Uh okay r379. You are the type to see negativity in anything. Moving right along....
by Anonymous | reply 380 | June 1, 2018 2:31 PM
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Well - the thread did start out with an article about body issues and problems it is creating for young men. There are about twenty other Instagram threads where one can be negative free.
by Anonymous | reply 381 | June 1, 2018 2:51 PM
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Body dismorphia is a mental sickness that can be perpetuated through social media. It's all about taking things further in order to be (finally) really worthy of love and respect from others. Finally be that alpha dog.
by Anonymous | reply 382 | June 1, 2018 3:09 PM
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Every time I see this thread I click into it, see R4's response and think what a massive cunt R4 is.
Every time.
by Anonymous | reply 385 | June 2, 2018 12:01 PM
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[QUOTE]Well - the thread did start out with an article about body issues and problems it is creating for young men.
Exactly. The focus needs to be on these young men who have been victimized by unrealistic body image standards.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 386 | June 2, 2018 1:54 PM
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I see elementary school kids lifting heavy weights now
by Anonymous | reply 392 | June 2, 2018 3:08 PM
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No amount of working out will take away the ugly.
by Anonymous | reply 396 | June 5, 2018 4:58 PM
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Yes it’s a thing, R400. In fact it’s more than a thing. It’s an epidemic plaguing young men across the world.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 401 | June 5, 2018 8:42 PM
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I need to cut my caloric intake and up my cardio.
I think a lot of guys need to do that.
by Anonymous | reply 411 | June 26, 2018 3:33 AM
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A lot of these steroid queens are in for a nasty surprise when the bad side effects, and health problems catch up to them.
by Anonymous | reply 415 | June 29, 2018 7:34 PM
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Poor straight guys have to be a 9 to be able to get with a 4.
by Anonymous | reply 418 | June 29, 2018 7:57 PM
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There is nothing wrong with wanting to be the best version of yourself ... for yourself. It gets tricky when you do it to get other people's approval and praise. Because when you do it for yourself you can feel great pride in what you've accomplished so far. But when you do it for others all you see is that you still are not getting enough approval and praise and need to work harder.
by Anonymous | reply 420 | June 29, 2018 8:04 PM
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I love the male muscle show offs
by Anonymous | reply 422 | August 27, 2018 3:35 AM
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R39, I thought they all look like Andrea Occhipinti or Pietro Boselli or Michelangelo's "David."
by Anonymous | reply 423 | August 27, 2018 4:22 AM
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I thought this was a thread about the actual issue of body image.
by Anonymous | reply 424 | August 27, 2018 11:51 AM
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I recently spent two nights with a delightful 19yo E European chappie. Sweet as sugar. He works out A LOT but still has a decent amount of body fat which gives him squeezable, suckable tits and an arse that fans out when he bends over in a spectacular fashion. However, he's gone back to his home country for three months and showed me how he wanted to develop his body: shredded and 'anatomical'--my word for how blokes look when they're all muscle and no fat. I begged him not to. I don't want to spoon a marble statue. He's PERFECT as he is. Fingers crossed....
by Anonymous | reply 426 | September 5, 2018 9:56 AM
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They really look all the same . Nice bodies and fug faces you literally fall over them on Instagram . There are a few who have it all ! And now they will have the same issues as women had to endure for over 30 years . I’m glad I was born in the fifties and grew up in the sixties and seventies . No social media thank god . A magazine now and then and that was it .
by Anonymous | reply 427 | September 5, 2018 12:53 PM
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Their faces mostly are not unattractive
by Anonymous | reply 428 | September 5, 2018 8:07 PM
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Muscles connote power, dominance. Most men want to be Alphas.
by Anonymous | reply 431 | September 16, 2018 1:53 PM
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I always hate how the soaps will hire 25 year old grown men with big muscles to play 15 year old boys.
by Anonymous | reply 432 | September 16, 2018 2:35 PM
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Men : must be tall, muscular, deep voice, rich etc
Woman : must have a pussy thatts it
by Anonymous | reply 435 | November 6, 2018 3:13 PM
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And completely untrue r435.
Do you actually know any women?
by Anonymous | reply 437 | November 6, 2018 3:15 PM
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Men have always faced pressure to meet beauty expectations associated with men; it is just that most of the wold has exclusively focused on women. It is like with baldness; the world and science field still think baldness only affects women psychologically.
by Anonymous | reply 440 | November 10, 2018 1:54 PM
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Alpha beta, what the fuck does it all mean? One of my good friends has been owner of gym for nearly 30 years. He laughed when I showed him this thread. He's seen guys like this come and go for years, it's like an assembly line. The only difference now is they have a self-congratulatory outlet in social media to take bows. In this population that you starry-eyed delusional teenaged sissies seem to worship, there is more doping, drug and alcohol abuse, mental illness, depression, bipolar disorder, NPD, BPD, HPD, laxative abuse, anorexia, and gay for pay than in any other. He advises them to take a look at some of the bodybuilding luminaries of he 1980s and 1990s who are now in their 50s and 60s and see what they look like today. No body in this world replaces professional achievement, education, intellect, empathy, compassion, and the ability to be a real human being, son, spouse, sibling, friend, and lover. Teenagers and young adults have a lot of pressure? Phooey! You put the pressure onto yourselves instead of onto ventures that can create a foundation of accomplishment, security, and stability that can last a lifetime. Being healthy and fit is a fine complement. Destroying your body and crippling your mind and heart to achieve a cosmetic effect that is TEMPORARY is the epitome of ignorance and stupidity. And most of you motherfuckers indulge it! These Instahoes aren't the role models. They need the role models. And they aren't here.
by Anonymous | reply 441 | November 10, 2018 2:58 PM
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Exactly, R441. These young men are killing themselves.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 442 | November 10, 2018 3:36 PM
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R443 R444 - Men. The new women.
by Anonymous | reply 445 | November 10, 2018 3:42 PM
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Muscles open doors. Even if you are not qualified enough for a job you could be hired only for your good looks.
Women's ideal body is easily achieved whereas men's ideal body takes harder work but that harder work pays off.
by Anonymous | reply 446 | November 10, 2018 3:59 PM
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R445 Open doors for what? Porn,. rentmen, drug dealers aka personal trainers, bartenders, bouncers, fluffers?? I would say construction, but they save their muscle for the gym, not the cinder block. Some of the guys hired in entry level positions, no shit, didn't even know how to address an envelope, and many of them are the epitome of laziness. Maybe some middle aged daddy will take them under wing, but even he'll soon get disgusted when they start pushing 30 and are no longer the peach of the day. Looks help, but successful careers and lives are build on education, training, hard work, character, and integrity. Not muscle. Unless of course you're a whore.
by Anonymous | reply 447 | November 10, 2018 6:21 PM
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Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 449 | November 10, 2018 6:34 PM
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By the time they're in their 50's, these Instahos, who have never bothered to learn any skill or trade, will be flat ass broke and dependent on food stamps and Section 8 housing to live out the rest of their miserable lives.
by Anonymous | reply 450 | November 10, 2018 6:37 PM
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R451 - "Yeah, right." I wouldn't hire you unless it was to mop the floor. Muscles are needed for that. R450 A lot of people mistake muscle with handsome. and they're not necessarily the same thing. Most of these guys with shirts on are average to above average looking guys. Some that have naturally handsome faces and look good in a suit and have a brain to go with it might have an edge over the competition. I know a muscle guy age 39 who landed an interesting job after he failed miserably in IT. He worked as a caddy at a swank golf club. Hoping to land some daddy with bucks. Guess what? Season's over. Still single.
by Anonymous | reply 452 | November 10, 2018 7:05 PM
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There is such a focus on being an “Alpha” or a “beast” among young men, and being swole is viewed as critical to this goal.
by Anonymous | reply 457 | March 3, 2019 1:30 PM
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Is it just me or do all these muscle bro-hos start to look alike. Even the black ones start to look the same as the white ones at some point. I miss the lean, fit, and hairy look that was common in the 1970s and 1980s and still existed at the beginning of the 1990s before soyboys and roidaholics replaced men.
by Anonymous | reply 458 | March 3, 2019 2:44 PM
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Thailand session. Dripping wet and dripping sweat
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 459 | March 5, 2019 11:31 PM
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Well, big muscles don't necessarily mean exceptional strength.
by Anonymous | reply 462 | March 19, 2019 8:03 PM
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r454 would be perfectly adorable if he had never lifted so much as a bag of sugar.
by Anonymous | reply 464 | March 23, 2019 12:23 PM
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Yes, r464. Quin Vitale actually looks weird here (the nameband on his underwear doesn't help).
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 465 | March 23, 2019 12:25 PM
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The six pack is the male equivalent of breast implants.
by Anonymous | reply 467 | March 23, 2019 1:09 PM
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[quote]The desire to be handsome and muscular has been around for decades
More like since the '80s. For most boomer teens, unless you were on a team, gym was a barely tolerated requirement for graduation. I knew two guys who worked out. They were considered freaks by even the straightest guys I knew.
Slim was all you needed to be those days. GQ changed the whole thing in 1979-1980.
by Anonymous | reply 469 | March 23, 2019 3:07 PM
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Quin looks weird because of those gargantuan Poindexter glasses.
by Anonymous | reply 470 | March 23, 2019 3:50 PM
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I was talking about the texture of his skin, r470. Obvs. the glasses leave a lot to be desired.
by Anonymous | reply 471 | March 23, 2019 4:03 PM
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Even golfers weightlift now
by Anonymous | reply 472 | March 23, 2019 4:13 PM
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Who cares. Anyone stupid enough to follow or believe the media deserves whatever they get inc death. This is as stupid as a black person wishing they were white, you have bigger problems.
by Anonymous | reply 474 | March 24, 2019 1:12 AM
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r475 If they wouldn't get such shitty haircuts, they wouldn't have body image issues.
by Anonymous | reply 476 | April 19, 2019 12:11 PM
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Quin is so beautiful. Would it be possible for him to return to having a normal, slim, yet muscular body? He doesn't need to turn himself into a freak.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 477 | April 19, 2019 12:14 PM
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You can’t blame Hollywood any longer. It has far less of an influence than it used to. It was once a carrier of the disease but the virus is self-perpetuating now.
A Tori Amos lyric is “And I thought that I wouldn’t have to be with you a magazine”—a reference to the pressure of a woman to have to look like an airbrushed supermodel. That was 1996.
Now it’s Instagram. Look around this site. Half the threads are just links to lookalike dudes with lumpy lean bodies and cosmetically altered facial features. The pressure to fit into this box just drove Aaron Schock to such madness that he ruined his life. He appears only to associate with other gays who are similarly body obsessed. All for the Instagram gods.
by Anonymous | reply 479 | April 19, 2019 12:25 PM
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It's not going anywhere. Men are finally realising that if they are good looking and built they can cash in. Here in England I've seen several sites for straight male escorts. These young guys now have wealthy older women to sell themselves to. It's like straight guys have copied gay men all of a sudden.
by Anonymous | reply 480 | April 19, 2019 12:42 PM
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Commerce. The fitness and food and druug industries realized there was a huge potential market for equipment, trainers, diets and supplements that could be sold by sex and vanity. Then the beauty industry realized the other half of the population, men, was equally vulnerable to being told they have no value without cosmetics and cosmetic procedures to standardize their appearances, and then social media platforms were invented to fuel and to be fueled by vanity and lust and greed—and voilà. Men have become as vulnerable to the influence of Barbie perfection as women have been for centuries.
by Anonymous | reply 481 | April 19, 2019 12:49 PM
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And straight buff dudes are loving all the attention they get from males and females for having brolic physiques.
by Anonymous | reply 482 | April 19, 2019 12:50 PM
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Dudes love being thirst objects
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 483 | April 21, 2019 8:40 PM
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R483 That "dude" does not make me thirsty.
by Anonymous | reply 484 | April 21, 2019 9:56 PM
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Gym culture is homosexual in its roots and so is the athletic/muscular body as the ideal male body. It's our concept and heterosexual men follow our concept of male beauty.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 485 | May 6, 2019 2:57 AM
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Just look at this manly little fellow.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 486 | May 6, 2019 3:06 AM
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very slender despite the muscle
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 489 | May 6, 2019 3:23 AM
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I like to drive past his house when he's alone in his room
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 490 | May 6, 2019 3:25 AM
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I just wish they'd stop captioning their thirst-trap seminudes with human potentialist coffee-cup bullshit. "If you can visualize it, you can do it." "See it. Be it!" Whatever. Shut the fuck up and show us your ass.
by Anonymous | reply 495 | August 3, 2019 11:49 AM
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Looking at all the Instahoes and the supplements they take and the filters and the editing and lighting just makes me appreciate the men who were muscular 60 years ago without any of the supplements and tricks. Clint Walker, Rock Hudson, Robert Conrad. I’m 29 so I’ve only ever known a world where guys are either fat and out of shape, stick thin and out of shape or obsessed hairless gym bros. I go insane for a fit body that looks like the guy hits the gym three times a week or does manual labor. His body hair is natural or trimmed a little and you know he can have a burger or a few beers and isn’t eating pre measured meals out of Tupperware or gorging himself because it’s ‘cheat day’. It’s really hard to find that these days. Vintage porn has become my go to.
by Anonymous | reply 499 | September 21, 2019 12:59 AM
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But where's the transphobic angle?
by Anonymous | reply 501 | September 30, 2019 12:19 PM
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"I just wish they'd stop captioning their thirst-trap seminudes with human potentialist coffee-cup bullshit. "If you can visualize it, you can do it." "See it. Be it!" Whatever. Shut the fuck up and show us your ass. "
Exactly. I'm not ogling your god damned pea brain. I wanna see skin, I wanna see ass and most importantly I wanna see dick. If I want smart, I'll go to the library.
by Anonymous | reply 502 | September 30, 2019 12:24 PM
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It's just funny that semiliterate 19 year old jocks think they have some deep profundities to share.
by Anonymous | reply 503 | September 30, 2019 2:01 PM
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I loved how @davymuscle (who i guess is @davymichael right now) would give little lectures about how women should dress modestly because men gonna be men and then like...offers his underwear for sale.
by Anonymous | reply 504 | September 30, 2019 5:43 PM
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Yah, so stop calling circumcised penises "mutilated".
All penises are beautiful in their own way.
by Anonymous | reply 505 | September 30, 2019 6:05 PM
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Americans need more body issues. Until the day the majority isn't overweight to morbidly obese ...
by Anonymous | reply 506 | September 30, 2019 6:15 PM
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[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 509 | October 18, 2019 8:18 AM
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It's amazing how video games are guilty of everything today. When they are guilty leaving fat and sedentary people are guilty of harming the body image of young people.
by Anonymous | reply 510 | October 18, 2019 8:20 AM
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231 - All these things happen naturally, bodies go down, heart problems and tosterone goes down. Older people are already the suicide band, all these problems that you pointed out happen naturally.
by Anonymous | reply 511 | October 18, 2019 8:39 AM
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Journalistic media always complaining about everything when not talking about obesity now complains that young people want muscles.
by Anonymous | reply 512 | October 18, 2019 8:40 AM
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Men have always liked muscles.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 513 | October 18, 2019 8:43 AM
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Shhh, don't say it. It makes the bodybuilding industry break into pieces R513
by Anonymous | reply 514 | October 18, 2019 8:49 AM
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Markham Heid are idiot obsessed with health.
by Anonymous | reply 515 | October 18, 2019 9:08 AM
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Markham Heid is an idiot who wants to pathologize everything. Let's stop living to be paranoid thinking that everything can be bad.
by Anonymous | reply 516 | October 18, 2019 9:10 AM
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Markham Heid what he does is these people who want to profit from the fear of people like this asshole.
by Anonymous | reply 517 | October 18, 2019 9:13 AM
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Markham Heid is hypochondriac.
by Anonymous | reply 518 | October 18, 2019 9:14 AM
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Stupid magazines telling how people should live.
by Anonymous | reply 519 | October 18, 2019 9:16 AM
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This Time magazine seems to have something against DC movies. Prime attacks the Joker movie and now uses Batman and Superman as bad examples to the young image because they look stronger?
by Anonymous | reply 520 | October 18, 2019 9:57 AM
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Magazines? In 2019.8? Dude...
by Anonymous | reply 521 | October 18, 2019 3:54 PM
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I saw some idiots here at DataLounge criticizing Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Speaking of what years of bodybuilding made them "empty and sick"? They are still in the movies, events are in good shape and are active when most old people their age are vegetating sitting in a chair or in nursing homes.
by Anonymous | reply 523 | October 19, 2019 1:08 AM
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Another magazine selling pessimism and bad news to attract clicks.
by Anonymous | reply 524 | October 19, 2019 1:10 AM
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What does a magazine that put Hitler as "man of the year" think it can talk about society
by Anonymous | reply 525 | October 19, 2019 1:11 AM
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Superhero movies and video games? For, the Greeks and other cultures thousands of years already had muscles and strength that represented a healthy body.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 526 | October 19, 2019 1:24 AM
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Why do people marvel that dudes want to be powerful, strong, Alpha?
by Anonymous | reply 529 | October 19, 2019 2:10 AM
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Didn't Arnold use to refer to us using the the f* word when he was younger even though his beloved bodybuilding is a creation of our homosexual ancestors? R523
The ironies of life.
by Anonymous | reply 530 | October 19, 2019 2:11 AM
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too bad all the betas threatened by showcases of testosterone hate all things Snyder. Sadly reviewers at these left leaning sites helped hurt box office performances and triggered the equally stupid heads at WB so they began interfering in his vision. MOS represents the only non-tainted Snyder DC film and it's brilliant. I would have loved to have seen what he would have done if they just let him be instead of B v S and JL
by Anonymous | reply 531 | October 19, 2019 5:34 AM
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R531 has lots of thoughts about stupid fucking paper-thin superhero piles of garbage.
by Anonymous | reply 532 | October 19, 2019 6:47 PM
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Look! A forum idiot talking about celebrity gossip, gay porn, and other futile things talking shit about my taste for superheroes. Look yourself in the asshole mirror before criticizing others.
by Anonymous | reply 533 | October 25, 2019 3:53 AM
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Maybe R533 should read a book that doesn't have any pictures in it before he (and lord knows its a he) talks shit about anyone.
by Anonymous | reply 534 | October 25, 2019 10:52 AM
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[quote]What does a magazine that put Hitler as "man of the year" think it can talk about society
Poor R25 doesn't understand what Time's Man of the Year moniker actually stands for...
by Anonymous | reply 535 | October 25, 2019 11:02 AM
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Hot bodies are nice. But long-term steroid use can fuck you up.
by Anonymous | reply 536 | October 25, 2019 6:05 PM
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Why Are Comic Book Superheroes So Muscular?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 540 | October 27, 2019 8:15 PM
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Muscle connote power and domination
by Anonymous | reply 541 | October 27, 2019 9:23 PM
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Guys like this can get other hotties
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 543 | October 28, 2019 2:02 AM
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It doesn't make sense that heterosexual men get so excited watching a bunch of nearly naked muscle men show off their muscles. There must be a degree of bisexuality in them.
by Anonymous | reply 548 | December 24, 2019 11:09 PM
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No, it’s a primal bowing down to Alpha indicia. It’s not new
by Anonymous | reply 549 | December 24, 2019 11:42 PM
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Why is this thread being dug up from March? Really? Why is it? Can someone answer that for me? Can you? I mean who is the idiot that just had to did this up again? Why did the insecure piece of shit feel they needed to bring this up again to have their ego stroked because he doesn't work out and has a shitty body? Seriously OP, go work out and do a diet. Put some serious work and effort into your life and quit coming on here and expecting us to hang on to your whining ways. You're so full of shit for posting this bullshit then dragging it up again. I hate you and I know you're just some big crybaby fatty sitting behind his computer in a fucking 4xxxx caftan. Fucking cow.
by Anonymous | reply 550 | December 25, 2019 12:05 AM
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Primal bowing down to alpha males my ass.
They like sexy male bodies. Plain and simple.
by Anonymous | reply 551 | December 28, 2019 7:58 PM
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Jumping in here. Did any Frau Cunts show up to scream about how women’s issues are worse and all men are rapist?
by Anonymous | reply 555 | July 4, 2020 4:24 AM
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This is a problem for both men and women. Thanks to social media, everyone wants to be perfect and be perceived as such by other people on these platforms.
by Anonymous | reply 556 | July 4, 2020 5:42 AM
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I'm not attracted to "perfect" shredded bodies. I'm just not. I love guys who look like they don't take themselves seriously. Slight doughiness or even a beer belly bro, whoosh!
by Anonymous | reply 557 | July 4, 2020 5:49 AM
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It gets hundreds of thousands of drooling followers
by Anonymous | reply 558 | July 4, 2020 1:45 PM
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I love that all the Instagram selfie bros that the Instagram shill heavily spammed the thread with are gray boxes now.
by Anonymous | reply 563 | August 23, 2020 10:11 AM
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BUMP TROLLS BUMP TROLLS BUMP TROLLS BUMP TROLLS BUMP TROLLS BUMP TROLLS BUMP TROLLS BUMP TROLLS
by Anonymous | reply 564 | August 23, 2020 10:33 AM
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The goal is to look lit in underwear
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 567 | November 24, 2020 10:26 PM
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They're just whiney little pissers is all.
by Anonymous | reply 568 | November 24, 2020 11:07 PM
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