20-years-olds look so scrawny

^ A baseless generalisation without context— or pictures.

OP seems oblivious to all the jacked teens and twentysomethings flexing their huge muscles on social media today

R2 doesn't realize those are straight guys.

The skinny look is in. I’m 32 but have kept my late teens/early 20’s body and get lots of sex. I’m 6’1 and about 145lbs, with a 30 inch waist.

I personally don’t find dad bods attractive at all, and if a guy is 6’ and over 170lbs, I consider him to be fat.

R3 yeah, because only straight men do that.

Lazy day, huh?

No it’s not. Muscularity is huge now. They are diagnosing it as an epidemic of males wanting to be big and muscular, or Bigorexia. Muscle supplement use is widespread

Yes it is, R7. In 2006 when I was in college, the craze among young straight guys was to get as jacked as possible. Now, you don’t see that nearly as much.

The twink look is very sought after, and most guys today in their 20’s/30’s aim to look defined/toned but still lean.

Are you serious? These young guys today are swole.

Look at this beast.

The muscle craze is bigger than ever, younger than ever. Middle schools kids are pumping iron and taking supplements. If you don’t have ripped abs and huge muscles, don’t even take your shirt Off at the pool or beach. Guys with jacked bods have hundreds of thousands of followers just because of their physiques. The male aesthetics movement is taking the Adonis Complex to another level of muscle hysteria

OP and r8 are smoking crack. Big muscles rule

You can hardly be a big young mainstream actor without being muscled. Even singers like Nick Jonas feel the need to bulk for their careers

R17 ok, Austin, enough already. It's nice you have an Instagram account.

Seems to be and either/or thing with no middle ground. It must be a reaction to the obesity of 2-3 prior generations plus the advent of IG narcissism

R11 and that's a consequence of the social media era. Many guys do that, don't know why some people here are thinking only straight men do that - as if you could know they are straight only by their social media anyway.

Have I said that social media is full of pretending? Oh, yeah.

I might add that it has also allowed not very good lookin people to get attention as the Swole covers for their very average looks

True. This is the era of physiques, not faces. Even in porn, penises have taken a backseat to sizzlin physiques. But hot developed butts are considered essential

Funny how a bunch of 60 year olds are trying to school me on what type of bodies most everyday young men (not instagram whores) are actually trying to achieve.

The lean and muscled look is very sought after, especially by young gay guys, but also many straight guys. Yes, there is a contingent of the straight male population that actually tries to get as swole as possible. But let’s be honest—how many everyday straight young guys have bodies like those instagram models? A minuscule number.

The skinny/lean look will never go out of style. Combined with a clean shaven face, it can make one look much younger than they actually are.

Here’s another scrawny 20 year old.

Scrawny or muscled. At least these guys aren’t fat, and therefore don’t have to hate themselves.

Thank god the inflatable-roidy-doll look is out of style at the moment.

R27 Ok, Tom, you also have an Instagram account. So cool. Go have a drink with Austin.

Post different hot dudes not the same one

R24 "Funny how a bunch of 60 year olds are trying to school me on what type of bodies most everyday young men (not instagram whores) are actually trying to achieve."

Chill, dude. There are like 7 billion people in the world. The skinny/lean look will never go out of style as well as the muscled look. There are lots of people with both looks and there will always be.

There is a big thing now about being Alpha males and “beasts.” Along with that, are complimentary labels for guys like “daddy” or “Zaddy” or “boss.” Of course, being jacked is often associated with these labels.

It seems the muscle thing is global. There is so many Middle Eastern and Indian Gym bros flexing on social media it’s overwhelming!

Thomas Terry is my favorite among this kind of guy. He's a little older - mid 20s I think - and actually seems quite intelligent too.

What about Abdell here? He’s a toothpick.

Skinny and lean:

"The skinny look is in. I’m 32 but have kept my late teens/early 20’s body and get lots of sex. I’m 6’1 and about 145lbs, with a 30 inch waist."

That sounds like something old guys who are near death are into and want twinks. 6'1" and 145 isn't something I'd ever touch.

Unless you’re in podunk locations or in a fetish scene, gogo boys and male strippers are expected to be big, masculine, and buff. Why? Because it is the most desired body type, the fantasy ideal.

I can’t believe the OP could be so out of touch.

I can’t believe the OP could be so out of touch.

Personals ads seem to be getting crueler and more exclusionary in general, but I’ve noticed how so many ads and profiles now say the seeker only wants to meet guys who are muscular or built.

DUH WHO WANTS A ROID JUG HEAD WITH HEALTH PROBS FROM ALL THE ROIDY??

SKINNYS ARE THE BEST FUKS

My skinny trix fuk way better than muscle queens who is usually pussy bottoms...

Maybe the roided out muscle look is the “ideal body type”, but very, very few men in real life, young or otherwise, are walking around looking like this.

Plus, all those supplements wreak havoc on the body and skin, and these guys look like shit by the time they’re 30.

As a top, I prefer a lithe little twink any day.

Muscle bottoms rule

Yes, R48, hung top dudes (who themselves may be either thin or muscular) tend to love the skinny look. So much for only appealing to “old guys who are near death”, bitch R37.

Muscle guys tend to be attracted to other muscle guys or uberfit females. Heck, even as friends,, they hang in packs. It’s rare to see a fitness bro settle for a unmuscled skinny or fat person. They even want their women to lift weights

Those twink-loving tops usually aren’t the Alpha male fantasy tops. They usually are older, albeit sometimes wealthy. They usually aren’t hotties themselves. Some of them are creepy near-pedos.

Guy in R52 looks like a hetero version of Spencer List.

Keep telling yourself that, R53. I only hook up with dudes under 35. There’s no shortage of younger, attractive tops looking for a twink look.

Sometimes I think most of you guys must be living on another planet. Either that, or haven’t been laid in the last 25 years.

Seeing that this has quickly devolved into yet another Instahoe thread (which anyone could have predicted upon reading the thread title), I'll comment on how you can tell which hot IG guys are straight and which ones are gay by the number of followers they have. The guy at R52 doesn't even have 500 followers, yet had he been a gay guy in a coastal city, with that body, surrounded by other "A-gays", his follower count would easily be in the tens or hundreds of thousands. Instagram really does seem to be a gay guy's playground.

R56, are you serious dude? Check out the thread of Instagram fitness models, or the countless threads on fitness Bros here. You find so many buff straight and bi-ish guys with hundreds of thousands to even millions of followers.

Yes I am serious, R60.

By the way, please define "bi-ish" and how you can determine if someone is so by their Instagram feed.

Umm, where do the skinny ones hang out. Asking for a friend

gimme the skinny boy fuk yea

not skinny but JUST RIGHT

(luv hot man tittys to suk chew on)

R64 who’s that?

Thin boys are hungry for love...

Let's look at just the guys just posted here, R60:

aaronarraez__ - 3,374 followers

shaunbenpt - 492 followers

abdell_tayeb - 1,231 followers

gameofswolls - 10K followers

tom_mcdon_ - 8,415 followers

austinarriola - 11.1K followers

_andyparedes - 7,903 followers

Only two hit the "tens of thousands" mark, and just barely. None are within a hope of the million followers' mark that you allege is so prevalent among the straight fitness bros you revere.

Thin is in. Guys who look like this are very popular and get tons of sex with other YOUNG guys, no problem.

Even the unmuscular aren’t scrawny relative to previous times. Millennials and Gen Z are the largest youth and young adults in human history

R69, not really son. Looks like a bag of bones

R65 is muscled

Even when they are scrawny, a lot of them have that weird pear-like shape where their ass is almost as wide as their shoulders. Which they then squeeze into skinny jeans (is that really something to show off?) Did estrogen infiltrate the food chain so much over the past 30 years that we will be seeing whole generations of unfuckables?

LOOK at they hysteria over Michael B Jordan’s jacked physique in Black Panther. Super hero and action hero physiques have already been attributed to sparking young men to feel inadequate if they don’t have buff bods. Add flexing muscle bros on social media, abs It’s only getting “worse.”

SCIENCE How the 'perfect body' for men went from chubby to skinny to muscular over the last 150 years

This is what these hoes want now.

R68, as suggested, go to the Instagram Fitness models thread

R83, why bother? This thread is pretty much an Instagram Fitness model thread already.

Time: Superheroes today are a lot more shredded than they used to be. The original Superman and Batman look almost willowy compared to our muscle-bursting modern-day versions.

That’s no coincidence. America is in the midst of a cultural shift in terms of the ideal male body image, and as the ideal man grows more muscular, men stuck in the

There's nothing wrong with skinny guys.

the roidy look went out with the trash...

plain unhealthy (heart/lungs/liver), thin is in baby...

Give me skinny boy any day

They fuk like bulls.

[QUOTE]thin is in baby...

Someone should let Francisco know. He’s 17 and already built like a superhero.

The lack of sizemeat verificatia is tragic.

Skinny guys just look so much more refined.

they in better health than the roided methed up muscle tarts.

R99 it will be interesting down the road the see if any onset of health affects from this whole mess of roids/meth on such youngsters

Even old dudes are pumping iron and taking creative. Dudes in their 60s have bods like muscle models at my gym

^^^creatine

r2, most straight men are overweight or obese. Gym rats don't represent what the typical straight guy looks like.

Not typical, but a significant minority. So much so, that it’s developed into its own subculture now.

EVer hang around fitness and aesthetics bros? All they talk about is working out, eating clean, Goals, gains, Pump, and supplements.

Pre circa 1990, weightlifting what is in a centric sport for competitive bodybuilders and elite athletes . Now, It’s considered essential for balanced fitness and exercise and pivotal for looking hot. Even middle school recreation centers md schools have weightlifting equipment now .

Although Christopher Reeve was not a small man, he seems absolutely tiny as Superman compared to Today’s Henry Cavill, Chris Evans, or Michael B Jordan. Look at male porn stars pre1995. They look like scrawny boys compared to today’s jacked superhero physiques.

"Pre circa 1990, weightlifting what is in a centric sport for competitive bodybuilders and elite athletes . Now, It’s considered essential for balanced fitness and exercise and pivotal for looking hot. Even middle school recreation centers md schools have weightlifting equipment now ."

Yes, you have a point. But if you look at gay 20-somethings in NYC, most do not lift weights or look like they even go to the gym. Maybe that's just the downtown crowd I'm seeing but it's like they really don't give a shit.

[quote] I’m 32 but have kept my late teens/early 20’s body

Photo link please.

I’m 32 but have kept my late teens/early 20’s body

That sounds repulsive.

Glad you think so, R110. I’m not trying to attract obese 60 year-olds with B.O.

Hmmmm

Scrawny, deluded and humorless is no way to go through life, R111

I clearly struck a nerve with R113. On the side of his body that wasn’t affected by his stroke.

r114, you sound pretty sad the way your responding. Please stop. Save yourself.

DUdes

I feel sad fer da roid heads...

SO many hot muscle bros!

they got attitude and style and big fat cocks

They who, R127?

they. not u. them they their that's it ok yea over under inside out .....VIVID WOKE

I'm a bit fond of this one:

^^ Enough with these weaklings.

The 32yo r24 insisting he's the voice of the younger generation is one of theost Dataloungey things I've ever seen.

take ur roid jug heads to the hospital. where the roids will eventually cause them heart and liver illness.

SAD FUKS

I LIKE....

R138 is boss yo 💪🏽

He’s too pretty.

But he’s trying to swag it up

thin civil war solder, lover of many

Dream Man, R142.

The muscle thing is mostly an American thing. Even 20 years ago you’d see American gays (the ones not dropping dead) with outsize shoulders & wearing ‘college’ wear in Europe, and out of their context they looked even more ridiculous.

Of course, because of the enormous appetites of Americans they turn into beer barrels at 40. Far more sensible to maintain a lean tight body throughout life. Those are the only guys who ever look good at middle age.

So we have scrawny, barely legal kids or steroidal bodybuilders...no in between, eh? Gay guys seem to be working overtime to reduce our world to the fewest options of total conformity possible.

R144, that’s a lie. Muscle culture is huge in the U.K. today as reflected in all the new reality shows with hot buff muscle bros there. Moreover, as reflected in other threads, Asia, India, and the Middle East have huge male aesthetics and muscle bro cultures now. Likewise, Russia.

Yep, R146. Exhibit A: that musclebound munchkin from the UK, Gabriel Cross.

Irish gym slut Paddy O’Brien

Israeli muscle whore Matan Shalev.

Famous French steroidal prostitute Francois Sagat.

Lifting heavy things with a boost from drugs definitely is not an exclusively American income stream.

Gym bro culture lets young men share the weight of workouts

According to Katherine Martin, head of U.S. dictionaries at Oxford University Press, people began using "bro" to refer to male friends in the 1970s. Over the last decade, it's become associated with more of a "conventional guy's guy" and included subcultures like preppy bros, frat bros, surfer bros and gym bros. The bro "is relatively affluent, he has been to college but is not too intellectual, he is lighthearted and likes enjoyable pursuits, and he hangs out with other men of the same ilk," Martin said

Of course, that definition is not always a rule: Chemistry is not often associated with bro culture. Gym bros are defined by their intensive cycles of muscle-building "bulking" routines, characterized by lifting heavier weights and eating a lot of calories, followed by "cutting" routines, which involve more cardio and eating lean proteins to burn the fat left over from a "bulk." They often take supplements, such as creatine and whey protein powder, but he explained that his is a natural routine, meaning he takes no steroids. But what makes their workouts particularly "bro" is the presence of other bros, with their advice and friendly competition. "Realizing that having a partner — one of your boys — who's looking out for you like you are looking out for him, you guys can accomplish more and have that time be more enjoyable," said Ben Conlin, a Pepperdine senior who works at 24 Hour Fitness. He says he has seen many bros come by his gym, most of them working out together. "You like to check out other dudes, in a sense that you like to compare yourself to other people," Wang said. "I think in a male culture, that's more frowned upon. But I think in the gym bro culture … it doesn't matter whether you are straight or gay, you can check out other dudes and it won't matter. You can admire the qualities of other people." Protein and dietary supplements populate the countertops of Wang's small Westwood apartment, next to scraps of completed chemistry homework. From the walls hang a photo of astronaut Neil Armstrong — an alumnus of his fraternity, Phi Delta Theta — along with an American flag and a poster of Arnold Schwarzenegger. When he walks to the UCLA gym, a trip he makes five days a week, he occasionally wears a replica of the yellow "Gold's Gym" tank-top Schwarzenegger made famous in the film "Pumping Iron" — one of Wang's favorite movies. "It's this competitive culture with lifting, where you like to go to the gym and make your muscles look big and get that 'pump' in, when you do curls and your veins are popping," said Wang. "It's kind of the aesthetic lifestyle."

New Zealander with out of control musculature Max Small.

It’s big in Australia, too.

Brazilian beefed up little person.

As SOON AS he walks in the door of Powerhouse Gym in Syosset, New York, Sadik Hadzovic gets blitzed. Two young men announce,“It’s swole time,” that they’ve got their pump on, so now is the moment for selfies, whether the bodybuilder has completed his own workout or not. It’s gotten so bad that Hadzovic is having the windows of his BMW M6 tinted, because people will bang on his windshield to ask for an autograph while he’s still parking. In fact, getting in touch with him took weeks—Hadzovic ignored my emails, assuming I was yet another stalker. As a rule, he loves his followers and is generous with his time. But being an Instagram star does attract some wack jobs.

Although Hadzovic, 30, has won four bodybuilding titles and twice was runner-up for the brass ring, Mr. Olympia, the stage that really matters to him is the one you cradle in your hand. On social media (and therefore mobile phones everywhere), Hadzovic stands out as a symbol of self-maximization, of a man who’s not only physically enlarged himself but also expanded his body and self into a brand. He is an exemplar of the shredded ideal, a goad to his followers’ vanity, a charismatic creation of dense muscle so unblemished by fat that every striation is like a cord in a thick wire cable. His job is “fitspiration,” a word officially recognized by The Oxford English Dictionary early this year. But while the jargon may be new, Hadzovic is really just carrying on a tradition of ideal male physiques that dates at least as far back as AD 216 and the ancient Farnese Hercules statue.

All these Instawhores remind me of a couplet from a Leonard Cohen song, Famous Blue Raincoat:

You’re living for nothing now I hope you’re keeping some kind of record

Oh they are enjoying the adoration. Some even get money and gigs from it

Barthalona attention thlut!

Attention seeking narcissist from Peoria.

Despite the deprivation and long hours needed to achieve this Herculean standard, scores of men try to emulate these guys, and while motivation can be as individual as a fingerprint, it often starts and ends with mirin (admiring stares). You can become Hercules by following his every move and tracking how he eats and trains. You can purchase the supplements he uses, buy the clothes he wears, and ask him questions about how he has achieved his heroic form. Sometimes you can hire him to coach you via Skype as you strive to look just like him.

WITH 1.8 MILLION followers, Hadzovic is an icon in the iron game, consistently ranked in the top 10 internationally on Instagram. Like his social media rivals, he’s super jacked, something the camera—and his followers—seem to love. Marika Tiggemann, Ph.D., a professor of psychology at Flinders University in Australia, does not find that surprising at all. Although fitspiration promotes health, fitness, and strength, she says, her research suggests that it’s the appearance-related bonus, not the health benefits, that tend to be emphasized. People whose fitness is especially conspicuous seem to garner more followers. If you look at respected trainers who have great bodies but not outsized bodybuilder-type muscles—figures as varied as Julian Smith, Jay T. Maryniak, and Ido Portal—they rarely have more than half a million followers. To Viren Swami, Ph.D., who teaches social psychology at the U.K.’s Anglia Ruskin University, the reign of big musclemen on social media may even be a leading indicator of a crisis of masculinity. “Men are losing power in terms of gender equality,” he says, “and one way they try to reassert their masculinity and dominance is through physical power.”

Perhaps, but marketing guru Daniel Saynt, founder of NSFW Agency, an outfit that connects brands to niche influencers, says the trend toward exaggeration in beauty and physique is common to both men and women. He likens it to “Kim Kardashian causing women to aspire to fuller features, a larger ass, bigger boobs, plumper lips. That bigger aesthetic is something people pursue more.” Bodybuilders, he adds, offer the spectacle of self-transformation, which also coincides with popular trends. He cites the popularity of shows like The Biggest Loser that focus on these massive physical transformations. Remaking yourself over time structures the stream of images and videos on your phone into a story line. With figures like Hadzovic, “it’s almost like you’re following them on the journey of getting this way,” says Saynt. “You see the before and the after. Followers feel connected to them and download their fitness regimens.” You can follow their story live, see what they’re doing day to day.

When Ulisses Jr, who has some 4 million followers and lives in London, began uploading videos to Myspace in 2003—a year before Facebook launched and seven years before Instagram—his friends laughed at him. “No one cares about your tips or even about working out,” he recalls them saying. “And anyway, trainers don’t make any money, so why are you wasting your time?” At first he didn’t make any, but he quickly made the transition from Myspace to Facebook and eventually carried over many of those fans to his Instagram account. Getting in early paid off later, because once you have 50K followers, growth starts to self-perpetuate, Saynt says. “Above 100K, you’re going to see that growth speed up.”

R165 None of that analysis is warranted or necessary. Many men and women fetishize ridiculous, livestock-level musculature. It makes them want to fuck. Men aspire to emulate it and women and men alike worship it. There’s nothing more to it.

Give me a guy with a decent mind and heart. These beasts are a nickel a dozen.

Well I want more of them!

The irony, however, is that bodybuilders, physique competitors, and others in the aesthetic lifestyle can rarely work as mainstream fitness models. “Nowadays, fitness models aren’t just standing still looking good; they have to be able to perform skills on set,” says Topher DesPres, who runs the fitness division of Wilhelmina Models. “Clients ask for a CrossFitter or a football player. Bodybuilders aren’t athletic enough.” Athleticism requires flexibility, mobility, and agility, none of which are trained in aesthetic workouts.

Aesthetic training isn’t simply about looking good but about realizing a specific physique, one that emphasizes those beach-bod muscles of the upper body (along with, bizarrely, the calves). For that reason, power in the posterior chain—the glutes, hamstrings, and lower back—tends to be ignored. As trainer Steve Cook (1.7 million followers), one of the most thoughtful advocates of the aesthetic lifestyle, points out in a vlog, “Guys in bodybuilding typically don’t do heavy deadlifts because they don’t want a thicker waist, and they don’t do heavy squats because they don’t want their core too big.” The fact is that deadlifts and squats are two of the most essential lifts for both athletic power and health, but doing them will make squeezing into skinny jeans difficult. For those who work out exclusively for appearance, then, having muscle isn’t necessarily about being athletic. It’s about gaining gorilla size to impress others.

The need for mass, and the recognition that comes with it, was a theme that recurred as I interviewed the body artists of Instagram. “I was just a scrawny African kid,” said Ulisses. “I wanted to gain some size.” Hadzovic, who was born in Montenegro, has a similar story. “I was so skinny as a kid. I hated the guy I saw in the mirror. I couldn’t make eye contact, I was so insecure. I wouldn’t take off my shirt to get into the pool.” He attributes his lack of confidence in part to not having a male role model: His father left when he was 8 years old. He sought exemplars on TV. “I saw pro wrestlers, and they were jacked. Stallone, jacked. Arnold, jacked. That’s what I thought being a man was.” In the ’80s, Schwarzenegger and Stallone stood out as cartoonishly huge. Yet today with ripped actors like Chris Hemsworth, Hugh Jackman, Jason Momoa, and even comedians like Kevin Hart, conspicuous muscle in Hollywood is so common no one notices it. Unless, that is, they are huge enough to be called The Rock

Patrick Leblanc is a nickel a dozen? I don’t think so.

According to the Harvard psychiatrist Harrison Pope, M.D., M.P.H., constant exposure to extremely muscled images in popular culture can lead to a condition called muscle dysmorphia. In a recent JAMA article, Pope defines this as “a form of body image disorder characterized by an obsessive preoccupation with a muscular appearance.” Most men with the disorder strength-train; yet they “describe dissatisfaction with their body size and shape and are preoccupied with the idea that their body is insufficiently muscular.” This quote comes to mind when Hadzovic tells me he recently gained 26 pounds of muscle to bump up from the Men’s Physique category to Classic Bodybuilding. The reason, he says, is that at 5'11" and 180 pounds of perfectly chiseled beef, “I didn’t like what I saw in the mirror. As guys, we start working out because we want to get big. I wanted to get bigger.”

That said, Hadzovic displays none of the traits of muscle dysmorphia, which, Pope writes, include “elevated rates of mood and anxiety disorders, obsessive and compulsive behaviors, substance abuse, and impairment of social and occupational functioning.” On the contrary, Hadzovic is friendly, upbeat yet relaxed, and genuinely engaged with friends and fans, socially and occupationally.

But I can imagine how poring over images of men like Hadzovic could contribute to such problems. Pope adds that sufferers are especially prone to steroid abuse—a huge health risk. Hadzovic competes in Mr. Olympia, which does not routinely test for performance enhancers, and there is a widespread belief that to get large enough for the bigger pro bodybuilding categories, you need to be on the juice. When I bring up steroids, Hadzovic assures me that the only products he takes are the ones he promotes, and that he’d never promote a product he doesn’t take.

It may well be that bombardment by images of maximized bodies can play a role in disordered self-perception, but for the fitness-minded, social media is an unprecedented resource. Recently I needed to drop pounds for a weightlifting contest; being fairly lean, I was finding it impossible. Through Instagram I found a free shredding diet devised by Cook’s coach. Counting calories and macros, weighing my food, and wringing virtually all the fat from my diet was brutal, but it worked exactly as advertised.

Instagram is a huge fueler of male aesthetics revolution. It even has its own popular language now, such as “goals, “beast,” “gains,” and “gymspiration.” If you work out, you know muscle bros have their own language, culture, bond.

Yes, R170. Less than a nickel a dozen. You can find many dozens of interchangeable narcissistic young gym addicts and bodybuilders on Instagram for no cost at all. They come and they go.

Give Patrick Leblanc five years to get lots of sex, lots of attention, and then lose his livelihood, his mind and his life when it all dries up.

This was my object of desire 15 years ago...before Instagram world, he got lots of print modeling campaigns...

In that five years he can do more living than most people do in a lifetime. It’s not like his life would’ve been any better if he was scrawny and weak.

...and for the past 10 years, he has faded in and out of the public eye, obviously tortured by his physical aging, and for a full decade now claiming he has “a HUGE new project coming...more details soon!” He’ll never recover from losing the adoration and worship he once had.

He is goals yo

Bunch of scrawny 20 year olds.

Get swole, get hole.

Yeah

muscular men with pussys.

fuk yes

Hottt

R4 = Caitlyn Jenner

fake news r190

How do 20 year olds get sex? I think you answered your own question.

Damn I actually found R190 intriguing. As a bi guy, I started wondering what that would be like until I scrolled down and saw it was fake. 😂

true love.

OKay

Because if they wear those skinny trousers and have the slightest bit of weight on them they wind up looking like a duck or Foghorn Leghorn.

R196 is too gay. Not cool bro.

R4 has SFB. (scrawny fem body)

Old men