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Jon Venables and Maxine Carr

Why is the UK criminal justice system so lenient with these monsters? In fact, the EU Human Rights Court said that Venables should've gotten an even lesser sentence.

by Anonymousreply 38April 28, 2018 12:46 PM

Sometimes I wonder if the justices aren't in fact sociopaths themselves.

by Anonymousreply 1March 3, 2018 2:24 AM

Jon Venables was 10 years old when convicted of murder. The sentence he received was adequate for his age at the time it was committed.

Maxine Carr had no involvement with the murders and merely provided an alibi for her boyfriend, whom she believed to be innocent (which the court accepted was true). The sentence she received as also adequate for the crime committed.

by Anonymousreply 2March 3, 2018 2:38 AM

R2 Venables was re-arrested in November 2017 for child pornography yet again.

by Anonymousreply 3March 3, 2018 2:41 AM

OP you do know that Maxine Carr knew nothing about the murders, yes? What exactly do you think is so monstrous?

by Anonymousreply 4March 3, 2018 2:43 AM

R3 Which he was tried and sentenced for. All life prisoners are on lifelong licence, so when the child pornography sentence is complete, the parole board will then decide whether he should serve extra time for violating the licence for the original murder.

by Anonymousreply 5March 3, 2018 2:48 AM

The UK has more "human rights lawyers" per capita than anywhere else on earth. That might explain the lenient sentences.

by Anonymousreply 6March 3, 2018 2:49 AM

R4 Why provide a false alibi then?

by Anonymousreply 7March 3, 2018 2:49 AM

She believed him when he said he had nothing to do with it but couldn’t prove where he was. Is that really monstrous? I would have thought the guy who actually killed two little girls was monstrous.

by Anonymousreply 8March 3, 2018 3:03 AM

Murderer Ian Huntley wants to change gender so he can live in a women's prison

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by Anonymousreply 9March 3, 2018 4:04 AM

R9 He'll probably get his request too.

by Anonymousreply 10March 3, 2018 2:54 PM

Mary Bell and her daughter have lifelong anonymity too. Taxpayers funded a safe house for Maxine Carr. Do they continue to?

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by Anonymousreply 11March 3, 2018 2:57 PM

R11 Mary Bell was repeatedly sexually abused by multiple men starting from when she was a toddler, and her mother tried to kill her on at least two known occasions. In spite of her crimes, also committed as a child, she's one of the few that deserves a second chance - and she hasn't been in trouble since.

by Anonymousreply 12March 3, 2018 3:02 PM

Canada is even worse. Police paid a child killer, Clifford Olson $30,000 to help them find his victims' bodies.

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by Anonymousreply 13March 3, 2018 3:04 PM

R12 Fair enough

by Anonymousreply 14March 3, 2018 3:05 PM

Can anyone remind me again who Maxine Carr killed? Kicked? Punched? Poisoned? Maybe pushed a little? No one? No? But she’s a monster...

by Anonymousreply 15March 3, 2018 3:44 PM

Shirley Tirner is another one. The Justice involved even wrote to her about how to appeal his sentence.

by Anonymousreply 16March 3, 2018 5:40 PM

R15 Why does she need 24/7 protection and a new identity then?

by Anonymousreply 17March 3, 2018 5:41 PM

Because of cretins like you r17.

by Anonymousreply 18March 3, 2018 9:12 PM

Will Bruce McArthur get 10 years in Canadian prison? Such a harsh sentence.

by Anonymousreply 19March 9, 2018 11:32 PM

Here is a current picture of that murdering piece of shit Jon Venables

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by Anonymousreply 20March 11, 2018 4:56 PM

What do you want us to do with this information, R20?

by Anonymousreply 21March 11, 2018 5:42 PM

I wasn't familiar with the Ian Huntley case but according to Wiki, he was angry over something to do with his relationship with Carr, saw the two random girls walking by his house and killed them as a way to vent his anger.

Something (kind of) similar happened in my area a few years back. A guy was feeling angry for some reason (can't remember if it was over something in his professional or personal life), and then out of rage strangled a complete stranger—a female jogger who was resting on a bench—to death. The guy was a very normal-looking, middle-aged professional type with no extensive criminal history, and the place where the murder occurred was a park that I had been multiple times to walk my dog.

Not to get all Mary, but that case really did make me feel sorry for anyone who happened to be born female.

by Anonymousreply 22March 11, 2018 9:23 PM

Maxine Carr is not a monster. She was exceptionally stupid to provide Huntley with a false alibi, and she deserved the sentence she got, but there's nothing to indicate she was aware that he was the murderer.

I think Jon Venables should lose his anonymity at this point, but I very much doubt it will happen. AFAIK, a Mary Bell order gives the recipient anonymity for life without exception.

by Anonymousreply 23March 11, 2018 9:44 PM

Huntley had a number of previous convictions

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by Anonymousreply 24March 11, 2018 10:01 PM

R23 Why do they still continue to coddle Venables? Fear of admitting failure at rehabilitation?

by Anonymousreply 25March 11, 2018 10:04 PM

The Canadian justice system is even more fuxked up. Their sex offender registry isn't even publicly available

by Anonymousreply 26March 11, 2018 10:17 PM

[quote] Why do they still continue to coddle Venables? Fear of admitting failure at rehabilitation?

British judges love rapists and murderers. Especially child rapists. They hate to put them in jail for very long. The only reason these two stayed in jail as long as they did is because the case was known all over the world and there was video of them leading the baby away.

The only reason Venables even went to jail a second time is because the public found out he broke the law again and had been breaking the law but the authorities had just been covering it up (as well as aiding and abetting it). Had the public not found out he would have been let off AGAIN

by Anonymousreply 27March 11, 2018 10:40 PM

[quote]Not to get all Mary, but that case really did make me feel sorry for anyone who happened to be born female.

It's not as if men don't get stabbed and shot, even strangled, every day of the week. No one is immune to violence.

by Anonymousreply 28March 11, 2018 11:47 PM

R28 if the jogger sitting there minding her own business was not female, do you seriously think that she still would've gotten randomly murdered? The whackjob saw a woman sitting by herself and knew he had an easy target.

by Anonymousreply 29March 11, 2018 11:51 PM

These psycho types can kill anyone if they catch them unawares and are full of rage.

by Anonymousreply 30March 11, 2018 11:55 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 31March 12, 2018 1:17 AM

[quote]British judges love rapists and murderers.

Not just British judges.

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by Anonymousreply 32March 12, 2018 4:04 AM

bump

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by Anonymousreply 33March 22, 2018 8:57 PM

I am quite surprised the link to Luke Taylor has not been removed.

by Anonymousreply 34March 22, 2018 9:17 PM

R34, This is an American website. Unlike the UK, America has a free press and guaranteed free speech. We don't have to follow their laws

by Anonymousreply 35April 3, 2018 4:26 PM

..........

by Anonymousreply 36April 28, 2018 12:31 PM

What's this got to do with race?

by Anonymousreply 37April 28, 2018 12:40 PM

Maxine is a mother now.

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by Anonymousreply 38April 28, 2018 12:46 PM
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