SUPERNATURAL

I read that Jensen and Jared hook up and both their wives are bi and know about it. Honestly, I can believe it. I also read that Jared has always been jealous of Misha and is a total dick to him on set.

Jared is very much jealous of Destiel and takes it out on the employees of the local Applebees.

Multiverse OP

Ackless being a deplorable, homophobe killed the fandom here.

R4 Amen! Jensen is a self-hating homophobe and DL bitches need to get over him now.

Genevieve is lesbian

Does Lesbian Genevieve have utter contempt for service workers, too?

I watch this damned show every single weekday on TNT.

I am so completely in love with Jared Padalecki. Can't explain it, but he is just completely adorable.

Weird that he got top billing for the show, but Jensen ended up being the star, and Jared the sidekick.

The writers of the show thought that they were being clever by making show characters make constant references to Sam and Dean being a "gay couple," but I think they did it to gloss over the fact that there was just so much chemisry between Jared and Jensen.

The camera doesn't lie.

That said, the writing for the show is pretty good. The first few seasons were great, then it got a bit boring, but once Castiel and Crowley were added to the cast, the show got much better.

I haven't seen recent seasons because I don't have the CW, but fortunately TNT airs constant reruns of like 4 episodes per day.

Having never watched the show before last year, I've become a super fan.

Does anyone have the gif of Jared and Jensen touching hands very discreetly, during a panel discussion?

It was very fast and subtle, but someone caught it.

That was so hot.

Sam is hotter than Dean.

Is this POS still on the air? Damn, what does it have to do to be cancelled?

[quote]I haven't seen recent seasons because I don't have the CW

Don't bother and simply enjoy the seasons you've already seen over and over again. Seriously, it'll just retroactively spoil the show for you, it's so bad.

The show treating gods of other religions as lesser monsters, Ackles being a homophobe, and rehashed plots made me stop watching five or six seasons ago. But what a cushy gig this has turned out to be for those two. Of course, they'll never work again after this show finally ends. As actors, I mean; I'm sure they'll do just fine as realtors.

This is one of those shows that has been on for ages and I don't know one person who has ever watched it.

I want to go to a Supernatural Con where fans are shaken down right and left for cash. Then they are forced to listen to Jared's favorite band that no one has ever heard of before finally being kicked out of teh joint on the verge of financial ruin.

[quote] Of course, they'll never work again after this show finally ends

Probably the most amazing thing about this show is that Jared is only going to be 35 years old this year.

This show has been on forever, and you would think that both Jensen and Jared are in their 40's already.

Lucky for Jared that he started this show when he was only 22 years old, and it has basically turned into a civil service job for him.

I can't think of another actor who started on a show at such a young age, and that show lasted for over 12 years. That's pretty amazing.

Young Sam was such a cutie.

Um, does anyone really believe that Jensen is straight?

Why would anyone ever get crazy ideas about Sam and Dean? lol

It's one of those shows that turn into a soap halfway through and then keep airing forever. It's passed Smallville at this point, hasn't it? Can you even imagine the CW execs meeting and discussing whether to renew this show? Oh, to be a fly on that wall...

And there's also a female spinoff, [italic]Wayward Sisters[/italic], but I've no idea what the status of that one is currently.

They tried a spinoff of Supernatural called "Ghostfacers," somewhere around seasons three or four, but it never went anywhere.

The premise was the same as Supernatural, but I think it's clear that Jared and Jensen are what make the show so popular. That and their chemistry with each other.

My favorite episodes are when Sam and Dean discover that they have fans who write slash fiction about them. It's frickin hilarious.

Didn't the CW confirm that next season (season 14) will be the show's last?

More references to fan slash fiction. This time with Dean and Castiel... "Destiel." haha

This episode entitled "Fan Fiction" is probably my favorite of the entire series.

What is it about this show that brings out the loonies. Has there ever been. Show with this many conspiracy theories and rumors? And just blatant lies about the stars?

[bold]CW President Reveals the Future of 'Supernatural'[/bold]

From January.

[quote]It's safe to say that Supernatural has become one of the mainstays of The CW, with the show currently airing its thirteenth season. And according to network president Mark Pedowitz, the series is showing no sign of slowing down.

[quote]During a recent interview with Deadline, Pedowitz was asked about the series' future, which has become a sort of annual question amongst the network's viewers. While Pedowitz couldn't say whether or not the series will be renewed for a 14th season, he hinted that doing so would be a great opportunity.

[quote]“Next year would be Supernatural's 300th episode," Pedowitz revealed, "which is remarkable."

[quote]Pedowitz also gave a sort of recurring answer about how long Supernatural will last - that it's entirely dependent on how the show's stars, Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles, want to continue.

[quote]“That show will go on as long as it keeps going, the boys keep doing it and the ratings keep holding,” Pedowitz explained.

Jensen was quite beautiful when he was younger.

I always imagined the average Supernatural fan is some over-weight, straight chick that spends her time fapping to slash fiction of Dean and Sam while eating Cheetos.

[quote] I always imagined the average Supernatural fan is some over-weight, straight chick that spends her time fapping to slash fiction of Dean and Sam while eating Cheetos

Fingering, not fapping.

Men FAP, women finger.

The government ought to hire Padelecki and train him to welcome alien life forms since the glare off of his gigantic forehead is most likely sending subspace signals to them.

r25 I bet one of them is reading this thread right now, pissed off to no end that she can't post.

At this stage of the show, Jensen and Jared are like an old married couple.

They're just so cute together.

You know, the show wouldn't work if they both had big egos. Somehow, I think that Jared takes a back seat to Jensen, which allows their dynamic to work.

Jensen has gotten more into the directing side, and Jared is happy just acting.

The dynamic that they have on-screen, is what I imagine they are like with each other off-screen, as well.

This photo was captioned "Supernatural Panel."

The fans don't look very frau-ish. It's a mix of males and females, old and young.

Didn't take long for this thread to go off the rails 🤔

[Quote] The government ought to hire Padelecki and train him to welcome alien life forms since the glare off of his gigantic forehead is most likely sending subspace signals to them.

Lmao

r31 In what way has it gone off the rails? We're just discussing this show in a DL way.

In honor of Jensen Ackles' 40th birthday, take a look back at his sweetest family moments

Jensen and Corey Taylor singing a Bon Jovi song

[Quote] In what way has it gone off the rails? We're just discussing this show in a DL way.

I'd say more in a tumblr way.

They will never have to work again. Between what they’ve saved and invested and the Supernatural convention circuit, they both are set for life. I think the show has lasted this long because it is a low drama set. It doesn’t have a big cast and no matter where they move it the audience follows.

Howcome Jared and Jensen never became movie stars?

Jared was in "House of Wax," but it was only a bit part.

Jensen was the star of "My Bloody Valentine," which was a pretty good movie, but nothing major came after it.

Why not?

I have been watching the Supernatural show for many years one of my favorite things about it is how Queer it is. It shows that there are SO many colors of the Queer Rainbow NOT just pink. And of course it is very romantic when you know that Jared and Jensen (J&J) are also Queers in real life which is why they have so much sexual tension on the show. I sometimes wonder if they ever have had sex or at least kissed and I think that the answer is probably yes! There is something so sexy and beautiful about that. Especially since they cannot tell ANYONE or it would ruin their careers.

One thing that I do not like about the show is the people who think that Dean and Castiel (the other man on it) should be together. The people who think that are called Destiel. There is just something disgusting (ewwwwww) about that to me I don't know why. My husband thinks I am being silly because Dean and Sam are brothers so isn't that more disgusting because it is technically incest. Well for one thing it is not incest because it's just a tv show and they are not related in real life. And number two they are just so sweet together it is obvious how it should be. And there are many fans who think that Dean and Castiel should be together. I don't care for that.

But that is just a small complaint. There are so many young children out there who deserve to see Queers on tv and I am glad that Supernatural is here to inspire and educate them. (And me.)

What's your issue with Dean and Castiel, R39?

Are you talking about Jensen and Misha? You don't like them together? Or are you talking about the characters?

Jared and Jensen are bi/gay in real life??? Thought they were straight.

I am talking about the characters r40. It's just a feeling I have that they are NOT meant to be together. I am not judging those who think they are, I just think there is something nasty/disgusting about it and it gives me a bad feeling. I guess because it is so obvious that they are not in love. I think we are going to have Queers on TV they should be setting a good example not just being premiscus and jumping into bed with any "john dick and harry." (LOL.) If you don't agree that's okay but I am not going to change my mind so don't even TRY ME.

I’ve never seen Jared hotter than when he played Clay in the Friday the 13th remake from 2009. If you haven’t watched it, you must. He was absolute rugged perfection.

Jared's body is AMAZING.

Everytime he's shirtless on Supernatural, I'm at a loss for words.

That's 6'4" of pure man. And you'd never know it underneath all those clothes they make him wear.

I agree Padelecki is in incredible shape, R44. Shame about his forehead situation and his many childish and public rants against various service people. Especially the latter, its a terrible turn-off.

Is he medicated?

[Quote] Jared and Jensen are bi/gay in real life??? Thought they were straight.

They are straight.

Omg.... *faints*

Who are these people crying about his forehead? Or is it just one troll repeating himself?

I honestly cannot tell if R39 is being serious or just fucking with this thread 😧

The show is muddling through. I would hope season 14 will be the last.

r46 You must not be part of the fan community if you say that. Most of us who have been watching this show for years know that J&J are almost certainly Queer. No they are not having sex in the middle of the street because it would DESTROY their careers but they find other ways to let us know. Whether it is just a look that they give each other sometimes or touching hands in a sentual way or certain things they say in interviews andcetera.

A few years ago there was a plan to have a Queer storyline on the show between them (some people think it was supposed to be Destiel) but the Network would not allow it. It was a whole tadoo behind the scenes. But they certainly have had no problem Queerbaiting the fans, as I'm sure you all know. Why would they do that if there wasn't some truth behind it? Sometimes I think no one really stops and THINKS about this stuff.

I was shocked to see it trending on US Twitter the other day, just a day after I had shat on it in this thread. That's pretty impressive for such an old show.

R47

He looks soooo good! I can't tell how many times I've seen this scene. It's from the episode where the hooker refuses payment for her services and offers to entertain him the next time he's in town. (Sorry, I can't remember the title.)

Why is this show still airing? It has very low ratings and I can't imagine it generates much 💰 for cw so why continue on?

I think Jensen is much more attractive than JarPad.

One of the funniest episodes was the Paris Hilton cameo episode and everyone wanted to see "that bitch die!"

I loved the 2008 episode which set up "Ghostfacers"! Dustin Milligan played a gayling who was in love with AJ Buckley.

I've watched Supernatural since the first episode. My favorite character is the witch Rowena. She's funny and sweet with her Scottish accent.

Rowena is great R55, but the teddy bear masturbating has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen on the show!

Details, R50!!

When was this? Was it supposed to be an alternate time line or another earth? Like during French Mistake?

The show does have a very steady viewership and the demographic group is steady as well. Yes, people will follow it whatever night it is on. Low ratings are relative on the CW. It does better than some of the super hero shows. The show does make money: worldwide syndication, dvd sales, I'd also say conventions but I don't know if the studio gets any part of that.

[Quote] You must not be part of the fan community if you say that.

Or i'm just not delusional.

[Quote] A few years ago there was a plan to have a Queer storyline on the show between them (some people think it was supposed to be Destiel) but the Network would not allow it.

Sounds like bullshit.

Jared is absolutely adorable in that clip at R56.

He plays so perfectly off of Jensen, which is why the show works so well.

Their chemistry is undeniable.

Jared does have a giant forehead. He was hot when he was younger. Jensen is the better looking one. Haven't seen the show in a few years.

There’s nothing wrong with Jared’s forehead.

Forehead’s looking pretty normal to me.

I don’t know how Jensen is better looking with this weak, flabby body.

I would love to see Jared with a shorter haircut.

I just bet that he would be even 10x hotter than he is normally, if he had short hair.

Question, has he been an actor since he was a child? Seems like he's been working forever.

I even love his name. Jared Tristan Padalecki. That's so cool.

So did anyone find the clip or photo of Jared and Jensen very discreetly touching fingers during a panel discussion?

It was so hot seeing that, because it was very downlow.

I don't even think they were sitting next to each other. There was someone in between them, and they both had their arms behind her back when they touched fingers. It was so erotic.

Jensen is so lucky to have gotten to ride this...

Wow Jared wasn’t hot until he started looking like a man. He was too androgynous. Then when that baby fat melted away, hello gorgeous.

I feel bad for Jared:

"Jared Padalecki recently revealed that he has battled clinical depression, which has caused him to contribute to charities that help raise awareness for mental illness.

Jared confessed to having a break-down in the midst of shooting a third season episode of Supernatural. Padalecki told Variety that he returned to his trailer for a costume change, when the feeling hit him all at once and Jared says he just broke down on the spot. When it was discovered that Padalecki was having trouble, a doctor was called onto the set to counsel him. The diagnosis of clinical depression came after a 30-45 minute conversation between Jared and the doctor. Production was shut down and would not resume for five days, while Padalecki attempted to get a handle on the sudden onslaught of depression.

“It kind of hit me like a sack of bricks,” Mr. Padalecki said. “I mean, I was 25 years old. I had my own TV show. I had dogs that I loved and tons of friends and I was getting adoration from fans and I was happy with my work, but I couldn’t figure out what it was; it doesn’t always make sense is my point. It’s not just people who can’t find a job, or can’t fit in in society that struggle with depression sometimes.”

Padalecki hasn’t just taken control of his own inner demons. The Supernatural star has added his name (and his face) to a T-shirt campaign with proceeds going to To Write Love on Her Arms. Jared began promoting the T-shirts, which feature an image of himself along with the words “Always Keep Fighting” written in a bold grey-blue font, with the intention of selling just 1,000 shirts. Padalecki’s campaign, which he began when a close friend lost his own battle with depression, has long passed that meager goal, selling over 27,500 T-shirts.

Jamie Tworkowski founded To Write Love On Her Arms in response to a close friend’s struggle with addiction and self-mutilation. The organization’s name was taken from an article Tworkowski wrote about her friend’s experiences.

Jared has a message, or perhaps it’s more of a personal revelation, for those struggling with depression and mental illness. Jared urges people suffering from these illnesses not to feel shame in fighting these battles. The mere fact that people with depression wake up every morning to take a new day head on is proof that he or she is winning the battle, Padalecki says. Jared acknowledges that some days are harder than others, but every day is a gift, if only because it stands as proof that we’re winning the battle.

Jared’s continued success in his personal life and with Supernatural proves he’s winning his own battle against depression."

THIS is why there is so much fanfic about these guys...

Now that the show has young Jack, I hope the Datalounge Pedos don't invade these treasured Supernatural threads.

Stick to your sick Tom Daley, CMBYN and the like threads and leave the delights of Jared, Jensen & Misha to us fans.

Wow, Jensen is now 40! Still beautiful as ever!

Uh no, [r70], he isn't. Ackles hit the wall years ago.

Jared would look a lot younger if he cut his hair. Maybe that's why he keeps it longish. I hate the stubbly look for him as well, but it's probably kept to make him look older as well.

One of my favorite temporary characters on the show was Andy Gallagher, played by Gabriel Tigerman. Andy told the brothers that he pushed images of gay porn into the mind of a straight guy he didn't like.

Last episode when Mag and Magog talked of Dean & Castiel being too pretty to kill was a hoot.

He's getting too old for that hairstyle as well; he's approaching Keith Urban territory.

Jared is sex. The end.

[QUOTE]He's getting too old for that hairstyle as well

Uhh no, he isn’t. You’re too old when you LOOK too old for it, maybe. But he’s still youthful. And it looks great on him.

The show jumped the shark when they made that Carter Edlund guy play "god," and that "god" had a sister.

That was incredibly lame.

I always felt bad for Jared when the show made fun of his size.

They would refer to him as "Moose" and "Paul Bunyan." I'm sure that on some level, it must have hurt his feelings.

On top of that, for someone with depression, it must have made him even more depressed.

It's surprising that the show didn't take that into account.

R79, you just made me miss Crowley. I loved Crowley. I loved the way Crowley would say "Moose" and "Hello Boys"

I watch Supernatural usually marathon it when it hits Netflix. But refuse to get involved with the fan base super creepy might be the creepiest of all tv fandoms. I think anyone that writes or reads RPF fic is kind of disturbed anyways though which is a large portion of supernatural’s diehard fans.

[Quote] But refuse to get involved with the fan base

Smart idea.

[Quote] might be the creepiest of all tv fandoms.

I don't know about that. They have plenty of competition.

[Quote] I think anyone that writes or reads RPF fic is kind of disturbed anyways though which is a large portion of supernatural’s diehard fans.

I don't get rpf. But that shit is pretty easy to avoid.

"Last episode when Mag and Magog talked of Dean & Castiel being too pretty to kill was a hoot."

Ten years ago, maybe. They're both well past their sell-by dates.

They weren't making fun of his size and he knew it, in fact Jared was the one who really first started pushing Moose as a nickname for himself, as opposed to just a silly one time line in the show. I mean Crowley called them Moose and Squirrel - that's the kind of character he was(and is missed).

Yeah poor Jensen hitting that wall R71 (from episode 13.13 filmed in Dec 2017, )

Hitting it hard(interview from Jan 2018)

So sad really(with Jason Manns and Jared @ Nov 2017--they are each 2 years apart in age Jensen born in 78, Manns in 80 and Jared in 82, JA just looks terrible next to those younger men doesn't, shame about that wall)

Personally I love that one of Jensen and Jared's trademarks includes artfully arranged scarves(seriously it's like a thing with them).

Super-thrilled to be sharing a stage with Corey Taylor from Slipknot last week - he's just lucky they didn't throw a bag over his head, what with hitting that wall and all

Just cause he's so ridiculously happy about it

From the last episode 13.14(filmed in Jan 2018, possibly Dec 2017) where Gog and Magog commented on his--and Castiel's--attractiveness), can't imagine what Gog and Magog were thinking, so not attractive.

That was not a lame storyline, R78.

What was lame was the Leviathan storyline, my god that was pathetic.

The Alpha creatures storyline wasn’t all that either. They completely wasted Grandpa Campbell.

They jumped the shark about five seasons ago. And the brothers are looking a bit long in the tooth. They need to add a 19-year-old hunky sidekick. Maybe a long lost half-brother named Dack?

That’s why they brought in the son of Lucifer this year. He’s a cutie, I guess.

Speaking of jumping the shark, there’s a Scooby Doo episode coming up soon.

I think most of the negative posters are Jensen's former Days castmates not ONLY bitter that he made the transition to prime time, but that he's on a show that's last 13 seasons and has more money than all of them combined.

I wouldn't go all the way to "rugged," R43.

"Pretty," certainly. Actually every time I see the earlier episodes Jared reminds me of the young Richard "John-Boy Walton" Thomas. Something about the dewy earnestness they both embodied.

[quote] the brothers are looking a bit long in the tooth. They need to add a 19-year-old hunky sidekick. Maybe a long lost half-brother named Dack?

They already have a cute younger brother named Adam Milligan. Supposedly, he's locked in a cage in hell. Just let him out!

He was played by Jake Abel, who was "Luke" in Percy Jackson.

R93 LOL That must be it!

Is this really necessary Drake? Come on Deirdre! Aren't the Hallmark movies enough Allison?

I think its funny that for all the (at least 2-3? to my recollection) attempts to do a female spinoff of Supernatural, its the 'next gen' male characters like Jack that may push the show forward, ultimately. Face it girls, the female viewers aren't *that* into you. Girls love watching rugged guys with a soft side, and that's Supernatural to a T.

I like when Crowley had his phone programmed to display "Not Moose" when Dean called him.

Yes! Crowley was the best.

I wonder what happened to make him leave? The powers that be must have pissed him off.

Anyway, the wrong person was kicked off.

[Quote] They already have a cute younger brother named Adam Milligan. Supposedly, he's locked in a cage in hell. Just let him out!

I'm annoyed that they never brought him back. Poor guy had it rough from the start.

[Quote] I wonder what happened to make him leave? The powers that be must have pissed him off.

Sounds like it. And as much as i enjoyed Crowley he should have left ages ago. Same goes for Cas.

[quote] I'm annoyed that they never brought him back. Poor guy had it rough from the start.

That's because Adam had some movies to make, bitches!

There's an episode entitled "It's a Terrible Life" where Sam and Dean's memories were gone, and Sam was a computer tech and Dean was an executive in the same company.

Sam would stare at Dean in the elevator, and Dean thought that Sam was cruising him. It was funny and hot! At one point, Sam says to Dean "Can I ask you a question?" and Dean replies, "Save it for the heath club, dude..." Haha.

I really wish they had "gone there" with the two of them. If they didn't know each other in real life, would they ever hook up? That would have been a very interesting scenario.

Anyway, here's a picture from the episode. Sam looked hot in his company uniform.

Yes, that's one season where he looked gorgeous. He was still trying to get movie gigs and he was all buffed up.

He might have even auditioned for Thor? Or something like that.

He was auditioning for the remake of Conan The Barbarian.

It went to Jason Momoa from Game Of Thrones & Stargate Atlantis.

The film was a flop, anyway.

I had read that he also went out for that Carter film.

It blew chunks as well.

Jensen turned down Deadpool, Captain America and Hawkeye

[Quote] Jensen turned down Deadpool, Captain America and Hawkeye

Did he actually say that??

Jensen also turned down Jared for Misha.

There was another good episode re-run today on TNT.

It was a Supernatural convention at some motel, with everyone dressed up as Supernatural characters like Dean and his brown leather jacket. It was hilarious.

My favorite parts of these types of episodes, are when Dean gets angry when the fans start doing weird things with his character, and Sam has to talk him down.

The best was the Supernatural musical, and when Dean saw that he yelled, "there's NO SINGING in Supernatural!!!"

Hahahaha.

This show is just so damned campy!

Is this for real?

Yes, their next episode is them in Scooby Doo.

That's so cool, R111!

I love the idea.

Jensen would have been a great Captain America because he's so all-American. He's what America is all about. I don't like the voice he uses to play Dean though. I wish he would speak naturally and stop lowering his voice to be so butch. He could have achieved the same result with his normal voice.

Jensen & Misha in a gay Casablanca would be good.

"We'll always have Vancouver."

R106, I heard he went out for those roles but I don't think he would have turned them down.

That would've been fucking nuts.

Not in a million years, R108.

Those are two fantastic episodes, R109, especially the musical episode.

Nobody on this show is hotter than the guy who plays a young John Winchester.

His name is Matthew Cohen, and he's right up there in the beauty department, with Tom Welling.

Matthew is simply beautiful.

Matthew Cohen should have had his own show...

And that body...

Heads up - Jared and Jensen will be on The Talk on March 20. By coincidence, they will be at the Paley Festival the same day, and whatever happens there will be the topic of their appearance on the Talk. Speculation is going two ways: they may be announcing that this is the final season of the show OR that they've signed on for more.

Obvious frau thread. No gay man on earth gives two shits about these guys.

They are going on The Talk to promote their Scooby Doo episode. Nothing more than that.

Matt Cohen is supposed to be a younger Daddy Winchester, aka Jeffrey Dean Morgan.

Hopefully they announce the show will end next year.

FUN FACT: Jensen also turned down the Second Coming of Christ.

They're only nearing their 300th episode. Still another 200 to go before the magic 500.

They might be trying to outlast that absolute bilge SVU and that shitfest Greys

UPDATE: The Talk tapes on 3/20 but the J's episode doesn't air until April 2. Jensen will be appearing on Jimmy Kimmel's show on 3/19.

The Creator has already seen the Scooby Doo episode and says it's great.

So much affection there...

Wow, some of those looks they give each other are incredible.

Gee, I wonder why people would think these guys were together and totally in love.

Did anybody see any Paleyfest pictures??

How did it go?

Jensen is a homophobic douchebag

And the assholes are here.

Fuck off, R131.

The Palyfest stuff is on Youtube.

Jensen sure is a hotty for a 40 year old!

Whilst they all get into the spirit of it all, i reckon Jensen is the type that would rather be home than at conventions and the like.

He seems the more reserved type off camera.

@jarpad

Jared Padalecki : I wish I could be more like @mishacollins

Jensen Ackles Retweeted Jared Padalecki 🤨

I don't get that Tweet, R134.

Is there some hidden meaning?

He looked good on Kimmel.

Jensen has 2.5 million followers. Good for him. I'm really excited about the crossover episode with Scooby Doo.

[Quote] Jensen has 2.5 million followers.

Lol good to know 👍

Jared has 3 million followers and so does Mischa. This show really is a juggernaut.

Poor Datalounge will be very upset with those numbers.

They so want the show to fail as they have...in life.

[Quote] Poor Datalounge will be very upset with those numbers. They so want the show to fail as they have...in life.

???? I don't think that many of them care.

That pandering asshole Collins took Jared’s phone and typed up some stupid shit on Twitter.

I just caught a re-run episode on TNT today, and I had to lol at one of the lines that Sam uttered to Dean.

I swear, the writers for this show are purposely making Sam and Dean out to be a couple. It's kind of hilarious.

Sam was referring to some witch couple (male/female couple), and how they hated each other. But Dean suggested that they talk out their problems, and that's when things got better for them.

So Sam said to Dean, that's how they need to be. They have to have better communication. It was the gayest thing ever!

But the kicker was when Sam said to Dean, "I'm here for you to unload. That's what I'm here for." I almost choked!

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who watches the show, that they give off a couple vibe. I mean, they break up, then get back together, then break up, then get back together. They sleep together in random motel rooms. They have heart-to-heart conversations on their long car rides together. The "brothers" have so many intimate moments together - too many to count.

You can't blame the fans for shipping them, and creating crazy fan fic.

Dean prefers Castiel's long thick Angel Blade.

Shut the fuck up. R144.

What's your problem, R145?

You sound like some kind of maniac.

[Quote] That pandering asshole Collins took Jared’s phone and typed up some stupid shit on Twitter.

Misha panders? And isn't Jared a known prankster too?

Supernatural | Scoobynatural Extended Trailer | The CW

Supernatural Cast Talks About Scoobynatural Episode 13x16 SPNPaleyFest 2018

'Supernatural': Jensen Ackles On Teaming Up With Scooby-Doo Gang; Playing Another Character In S13

I didn't realize scooby doo was created in 1969.

Lol at the fans getting upset about Dean/Daphne.

Who the fuck says fans are upset about Dean and Daphne??

Why would they be??

JFC, it's a one-off episode and they'll never visit it again.

Sometimes fans are beyond ridiculous.

Most normal fans aren't upset about Dean/Daphne. It's just a small group and everyone else around the fandom knows what their real agenda is. It's a freaking cartoon, they look like cartoons and know they look like cartoons, the cartoon characters are all adults, it's dumb, no one is doing anything wrong, certainly not Dean by having a crush on Daphne, who is a cartoon just like he is at the moment.

It's really not hard to figure out why some fans got ideas about Jensen and Jared, true or not. They clearly care about each other a lot and at the very least are very good friends. So fans being the way some fans are, decided it must be more.

On Instagram, Jensen has 6.1 million followers, Jared has 4.3 million and Misha has 3.1 million. Jensen joined Twitter 3 years after Jared and 5 years after Misha did but he and Jared joined Instagram at the same time. So Jensen has 2.55 million twitter followers, Jared has 3.02 million and Misha has 3.01 million twitter followers.

They probably wish Supernatural itself got those sort of viewing numbers. LOL I think only one episode of Supernatural ever got over 6 million viewers and that was in Season 1(the racist killer truck episode Route 666, yes that is an accurate description), while they were still on the WB, during a Presidential speech so a lot of people just put it on so they wouldn't have to watch the President. LOL I bet they wished they'd chosen another episode to air that night in 2005, they could have made a great impression with all those new viewers with something like the "Skin" episode, which was creepy with shapeshifters taking on the form of lead characters, instead it was a racist killer truck)

I've never liked Skin.

I don't get the big deal about it. Other than Jensen shirtless, maybe that was it.

I liked he bank one better, Nightshifter, with Ronald, the conspiracy theory guy. The ending was fucking awesome with the Styx song.

They don't make them like that anymore.

[quote]They probably wish Supernatural itself got those sort of viewing numbers.

I know zero about the actual viewing numbers, but just from reading various articles over time. I bet that when you add the live + 7 ratings and the steaming ratings they may get a decent number. The bottoms line is The CW is not running a charity. If the show wasn't making money, they would have stopped airing it along time ago. And no matter where they move it the audience seems to finds it, so someone is clearly watching it and it's enough someones to turn a profit.

I will never understand DL's fascination with Jensen Ackles. He's a terrible actor. How he can speak after all those years of faking that dumb deep voice on tv is amazing. Plus, not only is he a card carrying Republican but he also hired the goddamn Duck Dynasty fuckers to work at his brewery! No one is going to go into business with people like the Robertsons unless you're on the same page as them. It would be financially stupid. The Robertson have said truly vile things about gays and they speak at conservative conventions all the time. They are huge Trump supporters.

Does Jensen appear nice? Yeah, he does, but so did the salesman who sold me my last Mercedes. That guy was totally cool with my being gay when I was spending 70k with him. Then I saw him leaving a restaurant one night. and as the valet brought his car I saw his Marriage = One Man + One Woman bumper sticker, along with his Trump 2016 sticker.

Ackles strikes me as the kind of guy who, just like my car salesman, will be fantastically nice to your face but inside he's thinking that you're a reprobate who's going to hell. Call me crazy but I just don't understand lusting over someone like him.

Who the fuck still watches this crap? It was crap 13 years ago and it's still crap now. Jared is a douche who likes to Tweet photos of servers who are "rude" to him and Jensen is a rethug who's in cahoots with Jep Robertson from Duck Dynasty.

Can't you faggots watch something good on television?

R156 but that was during Season 2, not Season 1. Clearly they could not have chosen an episode to show at the beginning of Season 1 that hadn't even been filmed yet. Skin was quite a good episode, it gave good character insights into the then still new lead characters with Sam's friend from college and Dean's feelings of alienation as voiced by the shapeshifter who had access to his thoughts. The shapeshifter was written in a creepy manner(which in turn helped the appearance in the season 2 episode you mentioned, which yes was a very good episode with one of their best ever uses of a rock song with "Renegade" but again wouldn't have existed early in Season 1)

And christ R158 get over the whole republican thing - the only two politicians we've seen him publicly support publicly, ever, in any way have been DEMOCRATS - local politics, but still democrats, in California, where he donated to the campaign and more recently Austin's Democratic mayor when he tweeted about the "State of the City" address. As well, Jensen did show up in Misha's little get out the vote video against that Republican in Alabama or whereever it was. It was just a walk-on/walk-off "what are you doing there, Misha/OK thumbs up carry on" type role but he wouldn't have appeared in it at all if he didn't support what Misha was doing in it.

Ha Ha, The Supernatural/ Jensen & Jared haters just can't bare how successful the show has been and still is.

Holy shit he really does have Jep Robinson and his wife working for him in Austin!!! I thought that was a joke. Wow. That TOTALLY changes how I view him.

Wow I just can't believe that.

[quote]I will never understand DL's fascination with Jensen Ackles.

You will never understand DL's fascination with Jensen? Really? Is it that hard? He's a good looking white guy, which is tried and true DL catnip. There are a lot of people on here who claim to know things about this guy, that they couldn't possibly know. And he's not a big enough star where he is being reported on in the gossip community with any great frequency. So a lot of this "inside information" is coming from questionable sources. Maybe that's why the show has lasted as long as it has, because of this weird mythology that has overtaken the show's actors and who they are and their real motivations and allegiances. I've never seen anything quite like it.

[Quote] Who the fuck says fans are upset about Dean and Daphne?? Why would they be??

They're upset because of the age difference.

[Quote] Ha Ha, The Supernatural/ Jensen & Jared haters just can't bare how successful the show has been and still is.

Pretty sure that's not the [italic]only[/italic] reason.

[Quote] And he's not a big enough star where he is being reported on in the gossip community with any great frequency. So a lot of this "inside information" is coming from questionable sources. Maybe that's why the show has lasted as long as it has, because of this weird mythology that has overtaken the show's actors and who they are and their real motivations and allegiances. I've never seen anything quite like it.

Thanks to tumblr fandoms have become a lot more.....intense. The amount of projecting shippers do when it comes to their favourite actors is amazing.

Jensen has the duck dynasty people working for him. He is also good friend's with them. That's enough for me.

[quote] I always felt bad for Jared when the show made fun of his size.

Padalecki is a cunt and a bully who's deliberately tried to cause harm to people who've "wronged" him by bitching about them in social media, knowing fully well that stupid fan cunts like you would go after them.

I can't stand Jensen Ackles! I remember when the original "Douchebag" thread was posted with the link to the LA County Clerk's office. When Jensen listed his Brentwood home the realtor put the house's physical address online. Some obsessed DL frau used Jensen's street address, zip code and date of birth and got into the Los Angeles County Voter Registration Records! It was the real deal because the link that was posted just got you to the Clerk's site. You had to enter the street number, zip and DOB on your own. As soon as you hit enter REPUBLICAN popped up as Jensen's registered political affiliation! And he'd re-registered as a Republican every two years as required. Now he's working for the Duck Dynasty guys??? Fuck no.

[Quote] Some obsessed DL frau used Jensen's street address, zip code and date of birth and got into the Los Angeles County Voter Registration Records!

That's not fucked up at all 😐

That is insanity R167.

R168 and R169 are just bitter that their evangelical republican isn't famous enough to have his voter registration information sealed. Ackles signed up for stuff like that to happen when he set out to become an actor. It's part of the territory. It's no different than a member of the paps hanging out the window of a speeding car.

No, its not the same as paps taking photos. That is just creepy, but more importantly who has that kind of time?

I remember that thread r167.

Of course it's the same thing r171. It's not anymore creepy that taking photos of people cheating on their spouses. As I recall it all happened in the space of about 5 minutes. There was no Nancy Drew Super Sleuthing going on. Go back and read the thread if you want.

Correct me if I'm wrong R167 but I recall that there were dumb asses on it who were afraid to type in the information because they thought they were going to be arrested! It was actually one of the more hysterical DL threads. Even after seeing it in black and white some fraus were still taking up for him. Wow, it's as if time has stood still. People are still talking about him and he's done even douchier things than just be a rethug.

Ackles most definitely does NOT work for those duck assholes.

They have a food truck on the brewery property.

It is disappointing.

Jensen is the more handsome of the cast but likely the least interesting.

Jared and Misha would be fun to hang around with, but I think Jensen would be a bit of a yawn fest-aside from just staring at his beauty.

I posted this on one of the other Supernatural threads about a month ago but it bears repeating.

Like 99.9% of the population, I didn't have the slightest idea who Jensen Ackles was and had never even heard of Supernatural until several months ago when a 50-plus year-old frau joined my office team. She's one of the oddest people I've ever met and has the cast of Supernatural set as her screensaver. She also has a recent picture of her with Jensen for which she paid almost $500 at a “convention.” We're not supposed to do that kind of thing--put personal things on the computers or desks, so whenever she thinks HR may be coming down she'll look at us and say all conspiratorially, "Let me know if you see Big Brother a'comin'! I don't want 'em to take my boys!"

Naturally, everyone thinks she’s batshit crazy. She will go up to ANYONE in the office and make them watch YouTube videos of Jensen on her phone. Then, after it’s over, in one big long breath she'll say, "Oh honey, don't you think he’s good; he's just so good; he deserves ah hundred Emmys but he’ll never get even one!” Then she’ll blather on about how he’s better than any of the big name actors out there and how he doesn’t get film roles or Emmy nominations because he’s a Conservative Christian. Like her. And a Trump supporter. Like her.

There’s a guy in the office who teases her absolutely relentlessly. He’ll talk to her in a fake deep voice like Dean’s and razz her to no end. He’ll follow her around and say, “You just wanna make some Winchester babies with me, don’t ya! You just wanna come do the BOW CHICKA WOW WOW with your boy Dean!”

And aside from Supernatural, the dumbest thing she does is refer to Chanel as “Chanel Number Five.” She looked at a young female coworker one day who was wearing multiple strands of pearls and said, “Oh honey, don’t you look all Chanel Number Five today!” She told another woman, “Oh I just love your Chanel Number Five bag.” Then today a young woman had on the Chanel interlocking “C” earrings and the Supernatural frau told her, “Oh those are just the cutest Chanel Number Five earrings!”

The guy who fucks with her in the deep Dean voice looked at me and said, “I wish a goddam Wendigo would come and eat that fucking cunt.”

[Quote] [R168] and [R169] are just bitter that their evangelical republican isn't famous enough to have his voter registration information sealed. Ackles signed up for stuff like that to happen when he set out to become an actor. It's part of the territory. It's no different than a member of the paps hanging out the window of a speeding car.

Bitter? Yes, that's totally the reason for my reaction. You sound ridiculous.

R175, You made me laugh hysterically for 10 solid minutes. The SNP Fraus are the worst. The Chanel #5 story is too funny.

R176, Being bitter is the least of your problems. The others are right. Celebs sign up for folks going through their trash, their voting records, their purchase history, EVERY THING when they decide they want to be famous. As much as stupid fraus talk about this guy and argue whether he's this or that, it's no surprise that someone checked his political leanings.

He's not a bad looking guy at all but he's getting old quick, and he's a pretty bad actor when it comes down to it. There are so many other better looking dudes who are better actors who aren't conservative cunts. I don't get the kooky obsession with him.

Marry me r175!

I want to see a picture of her R175

Want a threeway with your deep-voice-Dean-fucker coworker and me, R175? Cas can join us if he's out of hell.

r175 You win the DL award for the best frau description ever! Its a shame it had to be on a Supernatural thread where no one but other fraus will ever see it.

In the meantime have "un fun" Jensen's instagram story gif from today. Seriously dudes his grumpy old man schtick is just that, a schtick.

I want to come work with you R175!!! Your office sounds like a blast. He pposted that because he's shilling for the Scooby Doo episosde coming up R182. R173 I don't see the difference in him working for the Duck Dynasty asswipes or having them work for him. I think him choosing to have them work for him is worse. Nobody can say he isn't a homophobic asshole now. Not after that.

[Quote] Being bitter is the least of your problems. The others are right. Celebs sign up for folks going through their trash, their voting records, their purchase history, EVERY THING when they decide they want to be famous. As much as stupid fraus talk about this guy and argue whether he's this or that, it's no surprise that someone checked his political leanings.

If you say so.

[Quote] Seriously dudes his grumpy old man schtick is just that, a schtick.

I don't think anyone seriously thought that.

I can't decide what's more pathetic. The idea that this shitty show is still on ..... The idea that people are e still watching it ..... Or the idea that people are arguing about one of its 'stars.'

Perhaps what is pathetic is a person who hates the show so much that he invests his precious time in it and its fanbase machinations.

Supernatural will still be airing new episodes long after Datalounge is no more!

I've seen maybe 10 episodes of this show and don't get why some are so taken with it. I assume it's because there is noticeable sexual tension between the 2 leads who in the early epis were very handsome. The acting is so bad! The tall one is terrible and the short one is obviously faking that dumb deep voice. I see threads like this and they are CRAZY CRAZY! People love it, people hate it and they argue and argue. I can usually understand both sides of an argument but I don't get this at all. I surely don't get how any gay or lesbian would support the short guy Jensen. There is SO much stuff out there about him being a member of the GOP and not being too gay friendly. I agree that it doesn't look like he's ever come out and said anything but he sure hasn't ever said anything supportive. If nothing else, these threads are soooooo entertaining!!

[Quote] Supernatural will still be airing new episodes long after Datalounge is no more!

I don't know about that......

Agreed, R188. DL is like a cockroach. It's will outlast even crappy Supernatural.

OP I watched the Scooby episode tonight in honor of this thread. I used to watch spn all the time but quit when it became clear hat the Js were becoming deranged. Jared was sending out insensitive and downright stupid tweets about Philp S Hoffman's overdose, and yeah, Jensen would always seem nice enough but behind that smile I knew there was someone voting against my most basic rights. There were rumors in the fandom that he was overheard by a fan/convention worker bitching about 'all the faggots" shipping the male characters. After that I laid off, and after watching tonite I don't feel like I missed a damn thing.

It was a cool show for a hot minute but enough is enough. It should go off this year or next.

The Scooby-Doo episode was disappointing and pretty lame. The cartoon Dean looked nothing like the real thing. and yes, r190, the acting was always that bad.

[Quote] the acting was always that bad.

A CW staple.

R168, R169, R176 & R185 = R175's Frau Co-Worker

I won't ever understand the people who watch and fight about this show.

But the threads about it are always funny as shit. R175 I bow down before you. You win the award for accurately describing the frauiest frau that ever lived.

[Quote] [R168], [R169], [R176] & [R185] = [R175]'s Frau Co-Worker

Scoobynatural was fun and the ratings went up!

Poor haters.

[quote]I've seen maybe 10 episodes of this show and don't get why some are so taken with it.

I'm sure the het guys who like the show genuinely enjoy the story and like to see two tough bros fighting the evil. They can relate. Or at least they did for the first five seasons. However it's probably the shipping culture built around the show that's keeping it alive.

[quote]However it's probably the shipping culture built around the show that's keeping it alive.

That is exactly what it is and it doesn't hurt that Jensen and Jaren are two attractive pretty boys who make a few panties/manties wet. You look at any show with a fandom like this and it's the same way. All the fake stories and rumors and gossip and games of telephone surrounding this show is pretty incredible. And you know what, all of that has given the two leads lives where they will never have to work again and will always have a built in stream of income. Because let's be honest Jensen and Jared were/are limited in their acting abilities, these two cats are now set for life. Jensen wants another summer home, do a convention. Jared wants a new boat, write a book.

And after all this time, the show and the actors still get a rise out of people is pretty damned good too.

[quote]I've seen maybe 10 episodes of this show and don't get why some are so taken with it.

I'm sure the het guys who like the show genuinely enjoy the story and like to see two tough bros fighting the evil. They can relate. Or at least they did for the first five seasons. However it's probably the shipping culture built around the show that's keeping it alive.

All right so first off, just so we're clear, there are maybe ten "het" guys in the world who watch this show. The straight guys I know would laugh their asses off if I suggested watching it. Secondly, with your admission that it's the shipping culture keeping the show alive you've hit on the very reason why so many people don't care for Jensen. Despite the fact that they've made him very rich, he's made it clear that he doesn't care for the shippers, and I can attest to that first hand.

Years ago, and I do mean years ago, I went to Comic Con and Supernatural had a small panel there. Jenny was asked about Wincest and he droned on [italic]forever[/italic] about how he didn't understand it and how he was concerned because he didn't want to be doing anything "wrong" in his acting/portrayal of Dean that would give viewers such a "totally weird and crazy idea." That was back when you could ask a question about shipping at a convention. Those questions have since been forbidden. Jared tried to dig him out of his shithole and said something like, "Well, we always welcome different takes on the show and just want people to watch it and enjoy it no matter what they think about Sam and Dean's sex life," but Jenny wasn't gonna have it. The whole time Jared was talking Jenny was sitting there with a terse look on his face like the person sitting next to him had just cut the most odious fart ever.

Jensen's attitude about shippers coupled with that fact that he couldn't give a 30 second soundbite without mentioning Jesus pretty much laid the foundation for the opinion and classic DL thread that Jensen Ackles is a Homophobic Douchebag.

holy shit that episode was stupid as fuck! The visuals were ok but the script was shit. Jensen was so bad I was embarrassed for him and Jared has some serious balding going on. I streamed it on openload but haven't seen supernatty in probably 3-4 years. Jensen looks OLD. Age is a bitch cuz rethug or not he was fine as all hell 10 years ago. It's a shame he's a Trumper-Jesus-Republican.

The anti Jensen crazies have landed.

Batten down the hatches!

Yes, you're so right [R202], because anyone who notices that a man is less attractive at 40 than he was at 27 is 'crazy'.

r202 The only crazies here are the ones who think SPN is on the same level as Masterpiece Theatre. This is a gay website for fucks sake and all signs point to the object of your affection being a Republican. If that's too vague for you, then head on down to Texas or California or wherever it is that he owns his bar or brewery and you'll find Jensen's buddies, the cast of A&E's Duck Dynasty, working there. So naturally most of us here are anti Jensen. I've never read any fanfiction at all and didn't know what shipping was until DL schooled me, but r200 hit the nail on the head. It's the gays/shippers who helped give SPN a leg up and Jensen seems very unappreciative of that.

I don't know Jensen and I don't really know anything about his personal life or his politics. I do happen to know a little something about actors in the middle of huge fandoms. Most actors are shy people and then you put them in the middle of this tornado of chaos that is fandom and that can be overwhelming and a little scary for them. In 8 out of 10 cases every negative interaction between actors and their fans usually come from the actor's "people" and event organizers. Someone hears a handler say something negative and then that is attributed to the actor. When you are organizing these things there is a very delicate balance between sensitive fans and talent (talent meaning agents and managers and handlers, etc.)

But for all I know Jensen is one of the few cases where the actor is legitimately a dick. I don't know. I will take your word for it. As for an actor's politics being a deal breaker, that's an individual choice. When you start combing through the private lives of public people, you are always going to find something that might be a little distasteful. And it's always a little sad to me when I see fans pull back the curtain and discover that their hero ain't so heroic.

It's pretty humorous if you think about it. Jensen obviously feels that he's portraying a rugged, macho, manly man character, and his only fans are either gay men or fat frau/tumblrina types who only like him because they enjoy fantasizing about him and another man. I'd feel sorry for him, but I've heard too many stories about him being rude to fans at conventions. Hey jerkwad! Those fans are your bread and butter, and it'll be straight to the Hallmark Channel once SPN goes off the air.

The show does not survive on some crazed fanbase convention hoppers. They are just a small fraction of the audience.

It's all about how profitable the show is and it makes a ton of money for the network worldwide.

The DL haters need to deal with that and need to ask themselves how crazed are they to follow what the stars are doing in their personal lives in a desperate attempt to counter the fangurls?

Most viewers don't give a shit about their private whatevers except for the convention crazies and the opposing crazies here on DL bent on trying to prove the opposite about Jensen & Co.

R207, fan culture created around Supernatural most certainly is one of the reasons the show has survived so long. But there's no denying that production-wise the show's always been quite excellent, or at least it was during the 8 seasons I watched the show. Great sets, capable directors, dry but effective writing, and yes Jensen and Jared were good to great at what they did, i.e. playing rough-ish pin-up boy bros. Let's not forget this is a silly and trashy B level ghost show, but extremely well made for such.

I've tried to watch a few episodes the past few seasons and although being able to stomach only a few minutes at a time I noticed that the set that was supposedly Hell looked cheap and tacky. No idea if the show's budget gone down or what.

I actually really enjoyed the show earlier and was extremely disappointed to find out that both Jensen and Jared are very probably insufferable assholes. I've said this many times in earlier Supernatural threads but in the end the biggest reason that kept me watching the show for the first five years were the J2 gay rumors, which later turned out to most probably be just shipping fantasies. I actually really fell in love with the show when Castiel arrived (with the angels storyline), and I was one of those who could see the insane chemistry between Dean and Castiel. It was a huge shame that never went anywhere but then again it was obvious all the time that they'd never make Dean Winchester gay. It was fun when it lasted but when I took a look the fan culture during season 9 I realized I don't want to have anything to do with the show anymore. That said, I did get tons of enjoyment out of it for years, and that's why I usually check out all the Supernatural threads here.

I enjoy the show for what it is.

I could careless about fan culture, what the J's get up to in private and what they get up to.

These threads are mostly fun and we play along with the snarking, but honestly I don't know how anyone takes it that seriously.

The show is profitable around the world and that's why it continues to be made. To think it survives on the small percentage of crazies is naive.

If you're gonna dismiss works of artistic endeavour because they may be fronted by douchebags, then you are going to have to can some of the greatest achievements in art-not that you put Supernatural in that basket LOL but you get the point.

Uh, it's a piece of shit.

Anyone watching this garbage should fucking die of embarrassment.

And if Dean is really a repub with duck dynasty people working with him then you're all even more stupid than I originally thought.

R205, he isn't a dick. He's considered a nice guy and someone who is good to work with. Even going all the way back to his teenage soap opera days(and really these people are going to hold him thanking Jesus one time in an acceptance speech when he was 20 years old 20 years ago against him? Everyone was thanking Jesus or God in their speeches back then and he wasn't long out of the family home at that point). He's got a married gay aunt, who he and his wife and children hang out with all the time, I doubt he's voting against her and her wife on much of anything. As already mentioned, the only two politicians he's supported publicly in even small ways are a couple of democrats, one in Malibu, the other Austin's current mayor.

His co-stars like him, he works hard, he's always got along well with the crews. On Supernatural numerous guest stars have mentioned him reading lines with them or staying for their coverage when he didn't have to and most other leads wouldn't have. The woman who plays Jodi Mills on the show now, first met Jensen when they were both on NBC soaps, then over a decade later she ended up getting a guest role that has since turned into a recurring role and she told the story of when she first knew him as this kid in a soap and she said he was sweet, quiet and just a good human being.

Jensen was shy. Not anti social because he clearly had a small group of friends he was close to. There was a smalltime entertainment blogger about ten or eleven years back who found out this woman she was friends with had gone to the same church as Jensen's family when they were young teenagers so she wrote about it in her blog. According to the friend, Jensen was so quiet, some of the people in the church thought there was something wrong with him because he never talked. She said she tried to talk to him one day, he got flustered, mumbled something and walked away. She said his older brother much more outgoing. Kristin Dos Santos from E! also said years ago he was one of the shyest celebrities she'd interviewed. During his soap days there were rumors of him having near panic attacks before some of those soap opera fan appearances.

As for this, you can salt it but I remember a gay male fan who went to see Jensen and Jared at their very first Paley Show appearance in early 2006 - he described how he was standing off to the side and Jensen came out but hadn't yet entered the red carpet area and he said Jensen looked like a deer in headlights ready to bolt and didn't visibly relax until he saw Jared out there and then went over to where he was.

The personality he puts during conventions, and even often interviews, is a sort of Dean/Jensen hybrid. If you look at earlier interviews and even occasionally now, if he feels particularly comfortable with an interviewer or he's just not "on" for some reason, he's very different. Soft-spoken, even earnest but with a good sense of humor.

All that being said, there were two different unsolicited stories from two guys who were in his junior high school and high school who said he saw them being bullied and stood up for them. One was a guy who went to his junior high school and was getting picked on in the bathroom and Jensen and his friend saw it and told them to leave him alone. The other was a guy who went to his high school, Jensen saw him getting picked up on and told the bullies to leave him alone. Neither of these people were his friend, he just saw it happening and figured he was in a position to help and so he helped. Even this year, a woman writer he does know mentioned how she got harassed at an event in Austin and Jensen asked her what she needed and offered to stay nearby if she wanted. There are other stories like that. Even the now famous barfight story from when Jensen and Jared just started working together, a bar fight broke out and Jensen got out but Jared didn't so Jensen went back in and pulled him out.

Dear God.

I always thought Jensen was essentially shy away from the camera. The haters won't stop hating simply because he is good looking, successful & rich. Everything the haters are not. It's simply a bitter envy of someone they dream they wished they could be.

R213, if Ackles had a gay friendly image I'd have no trouble liking him. However he's rumored to be an evangelical homophobe, and he's certainly never really done anything in public to dispel that perception. I don't envy his good looks, money or fame. I just don't have to like people who possibly hate me for being gay.

So Jensen hates you for being gay?

LOL. Talk about overreach.

I was incredibly shy growing up. My parents encouraged me to join the drama club to build confidence. Most actors are not naturally outgoing people. I think some people have interpreted Jensen's shyness to be something else, which happens all the time. Shy people get called, cold, aloof, standoffish, difficult, etc.

I enjoyed Cas giving the side eye.

I don't have to read one word of R211's comment to know that he's batshit crazy.

I'm just special that way.

I’ve been trying to post on that other Jensen thread for months but I’m not a paid contributer and never can. I saw this thread pop up tonight so I thought I’d try again for all you Jensen fans. Right off let me say that I don’t watch his TV show and don’t know anything about the man other than the stuff I read on Data Lounge. I live in Austin but have never seen him anywhere, and if I did I probably wouldn’t even recognize him.

I have a straight college friend who is like a mega Google Guide. He has written a ton of reviews and is always getting invited to places and openings. Seriously, Google treats him like he’s the shit. Well, he got invited to a special opening of Jensen’s brewery and his wife didn’t want to go so he asked me to. I ended up saying yes just for the hell of it.

So the brewery isn’t in Austin, it’s in Dripping Springs which is like 45 mins away, and if your expecting the place to be super nice like a bar or restaurant your going to be REALLY disappointed. The beer is sold out of what they call the Tap Room and it’s pretty basic. No color, just wood and white. There are tables and chairs inside but not many. There are lots of picnic tables set up outside under a bunch of trees and the trees have lights strung in them, but the lights kept going out while we were there. There was also a large playground for kids. Everyone was talking about how strange it was to have a ginormous playground. Mom and Dad booze it up while the kids play, then they all pile in the car for the drive home! On the super safe 290!

The master brewer gave us a tour of how they make the beer and he made it clear that the $$$spent went into the brewtanks and you can tell. The whole operation has a real backyard feel to it. There's nothing luxe about it.

So Jensen’s wife’s brother was the first family member to get there. After him it was Jensen and his wife and the duck dynasty guy and his wife. There were about 75 people there in total and we figured out that most were friends and business associates with about 10 or so being people like us. That’s how the family acted anyways. They seemed really relaxed around most of the people and like they knew them.

Jensen looks much older in person but he is still VERY good looking. My god. Me and my buddy are 34 and he thought Jensen was about 45, but even said that he was really good looking. He’s not the type to normally say something like that. Jensen’s wife is also incredibly beautiful. I don’t think I’d ever seen her before but she’s very pretty and looks younger than him. She also smelled REALLY good. Someone asked her what she was wearing and she said Joe Malone. I keep meaning to look that up for my mom because it was amazing.

You guys won’t like it, but I don’t get ANY kind of gay or bi vibe from Jensen at all. Of course anything is possible but I wouldn’t bet on it. I was up close and personal for a good 30 minutes and he was talking to people that were obviously friends. If anything he seemed like a really hardcore Texas fratboy grown up. He was reserved but drinking and said something about Washington, DC. Somebody behind him made a comment about fixing something in Texas and then someone else said “Well we are finally fixing Washington, that’s for sure,” and Jensen said, “Amen to that! Amen to that! It's about time.”

The whole event lasted maybe 2 hours and he and his wife were there for about an hour and a half. It was an ok night, but can’t imagine going to that brewery again. The food wasn't great at all. To really enjoy it you'd have to be a fan of his or his TV show, and I'm neither. But if you are you should definitely check it out.

Whatever, r211. You are clearly M U C H too invested in Jensen Ackles, who would not fuck you with Misha Collins' dick, even if he were gay. And you expect me to believe that SHYNESS is what caused him to choose his conservative political ideology and religious beliefs? That it's SHYNESS that caused him to befriend and hire Jep Robertson? No thanks.

That is an interesting account of events, R219. Thank you for taking the time to post it for us.

A must pay a visit to Jensen's brewery and have a pint or two!

[quote]Somebody behind him made a comment about fixing something in Texas and then someone else said “Well we are finally fixing Washington, that’s for sure,” and Jensen said, “Amen to that! Amen to that! It's about time.”

PUKES!

I can proudly say that in my very insular, educated and privileged coastal life, I just don't know anyone like R211.

I don't think.

R211 I'm assuming that you are a gay male. Is that true? If you're a straight female, I still don't know anyone like you, thank god, but I'd find you a smidgen less nuts. You claim that Mr. Ackles has a gay relative? If you are indeed gay, how would you feel if you went to a relative's house and the members of Duck's Dynasty were hanging out on the sofa?

In all seriousness, you and people like you are making (incredibly feeble) excuses for this guy's behavior not because you're Oh-So-Tolerant but simply because you like his looks.

That's very sad.

I really don't think celebrities, no matter their level fame, have to justify their private lives or politics to fans. It just seems like this guy really gets under a handful of people's skin, but I have read nothing that makes it sound like Jensen is doing this on purpose or is mean to fans who don't deserve it.

Basically, this guy is not who you want him to be, so your love for him turned to hate and you grab on to anything that will cast him in a negative light. Age old story when it comes to fans. He could save a bus of school children from going off the cliff and some people would find a way to make that negative. Jensen is a C list star on a C list show, but you see this all the time with celebrities from A list to D list.

[quote]I really don't think celebrities, no matter their level fame, have to justify their private lives or politics to fans.

Who said they have to? We're just saying we're entitled to respond to him consorting with deplorable people and having deplorable views. That response can range from me not watching his projects to me bitching about him online. Perhaps I do it because I need to vent from my daily job, perhaps I was a fan once, perhaps I'm just a bitch... does it really matter?

But he really is the worst.

*"allowed to respond to him" sounds better

The Jensen hate campaign on DL is absurd.

You would think he went around and murdered children the way some Queens here carry on.

It's so over the top that you can't believe it's all about some speculated anti gay stance.

A big part is the old Datalounge hate for good looking, white, rich & successful celebrities. It gets old.

Just be happy for them rather than being filled with an unhealthy, all consuming envy.

Have you cut out every deplorable person in your life? You take such a hard stand with an actor that you don't know personally, but what about friends and family who voted for Trump? Unless you come from one of those families or have friends where nobody voted for Trump, where do you draw the line? What about people you work with? Do you just ignore them at work? I'm really fucking liberal, but I have never really understood political purists like this.

You beat me to it, R225. I don't think celebs have to justify their politics to fans but I think it's shortsighted to think that they don't affect how those celebrities are viewed.

R200 was on point in that Jensen really benefited from gay fans, and although he hasn't ever come out and screamed GOD HATES FAGS, he's never uttered even one word of real, political support either. And he's fully aware of his public perception. He knows that he's viewed as conservative and evangelical. Misha Collins tweeted congrats after the Windsor ruling, as did Jared, Mark Shepherd, and the actors who play Jody Mills and Lucifer, yet Jensen remained radio silent. That's pretty telling. When you couple that with the TONS of first hand accounts that he's done or said something not so gay friendly, like R200's account and the veiled support for Trump in R219.

Hiring Jep Robertson was really the last straw for me. I could look over some other stuff as possibly being untrue but putting those fucks on his brewery spoke volumes. There will always be people like R211 who make up excuses for people they like, but like R225, I'm just a bitch. And there's certainly nothing "speculative" about Jep Robertson and his beliefs, R227.

R218 They probably do a have a blog on tumblr. That's how they found out all that shit about Jensen.

R219 Thanks for sharing.

R224 Agree with your comments. Though there does seem to be more of an attachment to actors that are c-list and/or do lots of cons.

That makes no sense r228. I've been on DL a long time and it's always glorified the successful, white good looking male celebrities. I'm not into Supernatural or Jensen for that matter, but the threads about that show are always entertaining!! I personally couldn't be a fan of someone that hung out with people like Duck Dynasty, but that's just me. Sure we all have to put up with some people in family or work who believe different from us but when it comes to celebrities we have a choice. But I actually have cut Trumper out of my life on FB and in real life. I think what get under peoples skin is that this guy smiles and nods his head and is nice to gays who have helped make him money but then he goes and hires Duck Dynasty. That is his choice but sheesh. It shows what kind of person he is and that probably disappoints lots of people who liked him.

Jensen seems to be the lightning rod, at least on DL, mainly because his looks tend to be what most of the guys on here go for. There could be a million reasons why he didn’t comment on the Windsor ruling. Has he ever commented on anything political in social media? There could also be a million reasons why he brought on the Duck Dynasty guy, that have zero to do with politics. But I will own up to my bias. To me, Jensen will always be sweet Eric Brady from Days of our Lives. So he’ll always get a pass from me.

But even with my bias, I normally don’t give two shits about celebrities and their personal politics, except when they’re mean and angry about it like Ted Nugent.

R227, Honey, he's a deplorable hence the hate. Plain & simple. No other reasons. The famous hot rich white guys are treated like gods on DL so peddle you theory someplace else. And yes .... HELL YES, I have cut the deplorables all out of my life. If you're a cooperation and you supported Trump .... DONE. I am DONE buying your shit. You have to vote with your wallet. I got lucky and my coworkers and immediate family are all liberals but I have cut friends and distant family that voted Trump's way OUT. I really liked Supernatural and understood that alot of fans were crazy and too involved but like others have said, hiring those guys from Duck Dynasty was teh end for me. It made it super clear that Jensen is a deplorable.

[Quote] The famous hot rich white guys are treated like gods everywhere.

Fixed it for you.

My partner watches this mess. It's so absurd, so stupid and so poorly produced and acted. I don't get the attraction but in his case, I think he watches it for the pure camp and escapism factor.

That tall queen is tiresome and is always going on in real life about his "battle with depression". They all try to sell tshirts and shit on their personal websites. It's really sad and desperate. The guy who plays their angel friend, I've checked him out on Twitter before. He's convinced he's like a mega star and a beloved pop culture icon. LOL!

[quote]The visuals were ok but the script was shit.

I agree. With something as silly as a cartoonizing the episode, it needed something substantial to keep it afloat, and the script and acting didn’t do it. It didn’t fit in the season’s storyline either. I have to give the episode a Fail.

R235, I agree with you about the Jared's whole 'charity'. I'm sick and tired of multi-millionaire celebrities extracting money from their fanbase, 'giving' it to charity, then acting as if they're oh so generous. Hey Jared, crack open your own wallet for a change!

R235 "The guy who plays their angel friend, I've checked him out on Twitter before. He's convinced he's like a mega star and a beloved pop culture icon. LOL!"

Oh my sides! Misha and his "I'm holding in a snart" face makes Padalecki look like Daniel Day Lewis.

R236 I am a professional animator and several people in my department watched this episode this morning. The animation was executed quite nicely; however, the looping was way off. The characters' mouths and words didn't flow very well at all. They were not synced up. To our utter amazement we learned that the actors recorded their parts first and then the characters were animated around their soundtrack. This is a recipe for disaster in animation. Even the best animators in the business would have trouble doing a 45 minute animation this way, and the CW clearly did not use the best. I also agree that the story line was slow and boring but I don't normally watch this show. FWIW, if I did watch it and I were a fan, if I found out that one of the actors was hanging out with people from Duck Dynasty, I would turn the shit off quick.

[Quote] That tall queen is tiresome and is always going on in real life about his "battle with depression". They all try to sell tshirts and shit on their personal websites. It's really sad and desperate.

A lot of c-listers are always shilling something for charity whether it's a t-shirt or a bracelet

[Quote] The guy who plays their angel friend, I've checked him out on Twitter before. He's convinced he's like a mega star and a beloved pop culture icon. LOL!

i think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wouldn't get a big head like Misha with stans like that.

[quote]There could be a million reasons why he brought on the Duck Dynasty guy, that have zero to do with politics.

With thinking like this, it's not hard to see how Trump got elected.

Your post makes no sense R241. What does one have to do with the other?

Get out your crying rags... show has just been renewed for another season. Whiners to the left.

I am not R241, R242; I am R239.

However, I would interpret R242's post to mean that a lot of people made needless excuses for what was very clearly, and most obviously, bad behavior.

Anyone with a single brain cell would interpret it that way, R244. I'm glad that it was renewed R243. I like Misha Collins. He was an intern in the Clinton White House and he has a master's degree. I don't actively hate Jensen but will never support him. I'll never go to a movie he's in or watch a tv show that he's in. When there is soooooooo much circumstantial evidence about something, it just about always ends up being true. Like others have said to, the Duck Dynasty thing was just too much.

Hopeful it’s the last year.

Fucking show (and us) need to be put out of our misery.

Hate what the show has become and hate that the two leads don’t give a fuck anymore. Clearly they are only in this for the money.

Collins thinks he’s at the same level as the two leads, he’s most definitely not.

Ugh, I’m really bummed about what the guy who visited the brewery wrote about what Jensen said.

Christ, how can people really believe that???

By the way, Jensen does have a dyke aunt, but I think I read somewhere she and her partner actually supported the orange Asshole.

R244, not everything needs to be filtered through a political lens. You people, who call yourselves progressives, and who demand political purity do so much damage to progressive causes and democratic candidates. We lost the House in 2010 because of that bullshit. Look where political purity got us. Then you pulled that bullshit again in 2016 because Hillary was too much of a hawk or she wasn't being fair to poor Bernie and his nonsense.

As was said above, Jensen didn't comment on the Windsor ruling. Has he ever used his social media to comment on any political issues or endorse any political candidates? If he has, please post the receipts.

But a lot of you do seem to be scratching for anything to pin on Jensen. So what if he's in business with Jep and Jessica Robertson. People who don't agree on politics partner together all the time. Some of you make it sound like Jensen wiped his dick on your new window treatments or something. Geez.

Season 14 of Supernatural next year and season 14 of The Datalounge hate of Jensen.

Which one will outlast the other?

Jensen and JarPad were on 'The Talk' today. Jensen looked hotter than ever!

Jared retold the story of how they met at their audition for 'Supernatural' and how very much alike they are and their lives.

The only thing that distracted me from Jensen's manly beauty was guest co-host Carnie Wilson's arms with those ivy vines tattoos on them. She must be really fucked up to do that to herself.

[quote]People who don't agree on politics partner together all the time.

That's ridiculous, no they don't, especially not celebrities. And no one, absolutely no one, is going to go in business with someone as polarizing as Jep Robertson unless they are on the same page politically. They would be afraid of offending potential customers and losing money. And thank god for that political lens you bitch about. Without it and the people who pay attention to it gays would still be getting beat up by the cops outside the Stonewall Inn.

I've seen [italic]maybe[/italic] three episodes of Supernatural and couldn't pick Jensen Ackles out of a line up, but it's the principle of the thing. People like you are defending him not because of a lack of evidence but because you find him attractive and want to excuse him.

That's very sad to me.

You dimwits can Take up for this right wing POS all you want, that's cool, but not me. I loved spn for a really long time and even went to some conventions. It's totally obvious that Jensen's a Repub and i might could've said "live and let live" but putting those Duck Dynasty people to work at his brewery was just like a slap in the face to gays. He is a trump supporting Xtian that's probably been voting against gay rights for years.

Duck Dynasty is synonymous with homophobia. Like someone else said, celebrities, not even a D Lister like this dude, would ever partner with them in business unless they all shared close to the same political views. We all make our own decisions about what media to consume, but it sure sounds like this guy is not the most supportive fellow out there when it comes to gays and lesbians.

[quote]Duck Dynasty is synonymous with homophobia.

I don't disagree with that statement.

[quote]Like someone else said, celebrities, not even a D Lister like this dude, would ever partner with them in business unless they all shared close to the same political views..

I don't agree with that statement.

Where has Jensen ever gone on the record about his political views. I am waiting for some public endorsement or something that he wrote on social media that leaves no doubt. But no one ever provides proof they just make a bunch of claims without any backup.

Thank you for your account of the brewery, R219! For us spn fans that would have been an unbelievable treat! Is there anything else you can tell us? Anything else about Jensen? I've been a fan for a long time. I'm an eldergay (Hiss! Hiss!) and started watching him on DOOL and thought he was really cute and not bad as soap actors go.

The writing has been on the wall for years though about his being a conservative. I'm a (self professed) sixty-seven year old MARY, I know, but it really does break my heart that he put those foul Robertsons to work for him. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I think most people who aren't Red Necks do think of homophobia when Duck Dynasty is mentioned. I hate seeing their bearded faces on t-shirts when I go into Walmart! I sometimes turn them around backwards, lol.

R253, I thought like you for a long time. I just brushed stuff under the carpet and said I wouldn't believe any of it until it came from the horse's mouth. Not so much anymore. I still watch SPN but doubt I will follow him after it. There have just been too many first hand accounts of things said at Conventions from people I know. I was majorly involved in the SPN Conventions for a while and I've seen a lot of people upset over the last five or six years. A few of them worked as admins at their local Cons and heard things first hand. Nowadays You can't ask any questions about sexuality period. You can't ask any political questions or even questions about religion. There are others that are off limits too.

Of course, at the end of the day Jensen doesn't owe any of us anything and his beliefs are his own and he has every right to them. When it comes right down to it, he produces a product and it's up to us to use it or not. We either watch him or we don't.

I just don't think he'll ever come out and publicly admit anything because it would hurt his image. Lots of people in the fandom I stay in touch with feel a little like you R253 but the Duck Dynasty Pill got caught in their throat!

Anything other little tidbits would be much appreciated r219!

Wait. So he's REPUBLICAN and he's in business with DUCK DYNASTY and you don't believe he's antigay R253, unti he posts something on social media???

Are you still defending Trump that way too???

WTF, man?? WTF??

Saw Jensen & Jared on The Talk. You can tell Jensen is very reserved in nature whilst Jared does all the talking. I

[quote]unti he posts something on social media???

Someone made a point upthread saying that Jensen was the only cast member who did not tweet his support of the Windsor ruling. So the question was asked if Jensen has ever tweeted anything political or posted anything political on his social media. I think that's a fair question, if you going to use him not posting about the Windsor ruling as some litmus test.

[quote]Are you still defending Trump that way too???

I am very much a Democrat and quite liberal. Trump is an asshat and a disgrace to the office of President. I just don't play the game that all republicans = bad or homophobic or whatever it is they're supposed to be.

I decided to Google this Jensen/Duck Dynasty thing. It seems like Jensen is allowing the son and his wife to park their food truck at his brewery. It says they are friends. Also Jep Robertson supported Bobby Jindhal in the primaries, which means that he's fucking crazy and probably homophobic, but it doesn't mean that Jensen is either of those things. I also don't play the guilt by association game.

You are not going to convince me that Jensen Ackles is the devil based on rumors from fan conventions. Not going to happen.

R257 = Casey Anthony juror #8

[Quote] I don't actively hate Jensen but will never support him. I'll never go to a movie he's in or watch a tv show that he's in

I think the last movie i saw of his was My Bloody Valentine and that was what...over a decade ago? If he does land another gig on tv, i can see him being cast as the hot dad on another CW show lol

[quote]You are not going to convince me that Jensen Ackles is the devil based on rumors from fan conventions. Not going to happen.

Nah, I don't think he's the devil, r257. I doubt he hates gays or wishes them any ill will, but given the overwhelming amount of evidence--some of which is definitely anecdotal, some of which is more than that--I sure don't see him as a friend to the LGBT community. Not in the ways that count. Call me a bitch but if you're a Republican, even if you love gays, you're actively campaigning against my rights so I'm just not going to be your "fan." I might watch your show on tv but you're not going to get any of my money or my support.

No, R254, you spill!!!!

What did you see/hear behind the scenes at the conventions????

Please, I need details! I know a lot of gifts end up in the trash but what else?

[Quote] Please, I need details! I know a lot of gifts end up in the trash but what else?

Why do fans bother with that shit?? It's not like celebrities can't afford to buy it. Why not just stick with fan art or something you made yourself.

Some of you queens are just stupid as fuck. This guy is a Evangelical republican and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that. If the dude were on fire I wouldn't give him the sweat off my balls.

[quote] I doubt he hates gays or wishes them any ill will, but given the overwhelming amount of evidence--some of which is definitely anecdotal, some of which is more than that--I sure don't see him as a friend to the LGBT community.

Bingo

I’m not a part of the fan world and all that involves. That world and those people confuse me and scare me a little. I don’t think that kind of devotion is healthy. Conventions and that nonsense is silly to me. You watch a show and when it’s over you move on.

Regardless of how it may come across, I am not defending Jensen. He doesn’t need me or anyone else to do that for him. But I stand by my position of not judging people based on internet and fan convention rumors.

I don’t understand the need for some people to not feel worthy unless a celebrity is an ally. I’m gay and wonderful and will remain gay and wonderful regardless of what Jensen Ackles or any celebrity happens to think about gay people.

You do you, R265.

You do you.

These male "celebrity" threads are always the same. You morons are always arguing over whether some dude who has been married five times and has eight kids is gay or straight, OR whether or not some dude who is a known conservative and consorts with other douchey known conservatives is "gay friendly."

Newsflash: "Gay friendly" people don't just refrain from kicking your gay ass. They also refrain from voting to limit your already tenuous rights.

I clicked on this thread thinking it would be about THE supernatural. On Data lounge I should have known better.

R267, there have been plenty of Supernatural threads over the years, and at some point we were even discussing the show itself. Unfortunately there isn't that much to discuss. The show is as deep as your average soap opera.

Well said R265

Jensen is pretty cute. I Googled him. Never heard of him before. But if he's a registered republican and he is friends with the duck dynasty guys or in business with them or whatever the case may be, he's got to be pretty conservative. Call me shallow or intolerant but that's a deal breaker for me. I get even a whiff of republican and I'm out.

R265 you sound very sweet and kind. I can understand why fandom might seem bizarre and like overkill to you, and for many people it is. For most of us though it was great fun in the early days, especially where I live in San Diego. I am the hissing elder gay at R252, and I was involved in it for many, many years.

Originally, fandom was about comic books and Japanese animation. Then television shows slowly crept in but the actors in those shows only factored in tangentially. The advent of the shipping culture caused a large spike in overall fandom population, which I think was both good and bad. One of the most wonderful things about fandom was that it truly had no age limits. A sixty year old man could converse with a seventeen year old boy about anime (or whatever) and they weren't separated by the disparities inherent in their age differences. They were both fans of the same thing and brought their unique perspectives to the table to discuss a common interest. I have incredibly good friends of all ages that I met while participating in fandom.

Given that fandom was a large, very happy part of my life I didn’t want you to think it was all crazed, screaming fanatics, chasing after D List television stars, begging for autographs! The other thing I wanted to mention was your statement:

[quote] I don’t understand the need for some people to not feel worthy unless a celebrity is an ally.

I personally don’t think it’s a question of not feeling worthy but of feeing disappointed. I also think that for the vast majority it’s a sense of “I’m not buying your product because you don’t support me.” In other words, why should I be your “fan” when there’s a good bit of evidence you don’t support my rights? I find that when some gay people see others lusting after straight celebrities and sports figures who are less than supportive it irritates them. I can understand that. I must admit that adulation of that nature would seem misdirected to me.

You are a unique and kind person, R265, and those who know you in real life are lucky! Remain your gay and wonderful self always.

Sorry, R265, I'm not R252! I'm R254!

[Quote] Originally, fandom was about comic books and Japanese animation. Then television shows slowly crept in but the actors in those shows only factored in tangentially. The advent of the shipping culture caused a large spike in overall fandom population, which I think was both good and bad. One of the most wonderful things about fandom was that it truly had no age limits. A sixty year old man could converse with a seventeen year old boy about anime (or whatever) and they weren't separated by the disparities inherent in their age differences. They were both fans of the same thing and brought their unique perspectives to the table to discuss a common interest. I have incredibly good friends of all ages that I met while participating in fandom.

Sounds like the beginning of a comic book movie.

How is that, R273?? It reads like a lovely account of early fandom by someone who enjoyed it.

I used to love seeing these threads! I got all excited when I saw this one and couldn't believe I'd missed it.

It used to be so much fun reading the comments from the total nut jobs who argued about the show. The disagreements about if Dean was fucking his brother Sam or the Angel Cass were especially entertaining.

Now its just sad. How in the hell can you people continue to go on and on about how great Jensen is when its almost for 100% certain that he's a rethug and closet jesus freak AND NOW he's buds with the Fuck Dynasty people? I can understand getting a kick outta the show but jesus, find someone else to lust over. Someone more worthy. This guy doesn't deserve it.

I am going to invite Jensen & Jared to my seventieth birthday party in August when they are on hiatus.

I think they will come because I watch every episode and attend their conventions when my hip isn't playing up.

They are always polite to me and I think they will come.

I am so happy about this.

I hope Jensen brings me some beer from his brewery!

Good luck R276

Oh, R276, I hope they come too! I bet they will!!!!! They are both sooooo wonderful!!! I still have the photo they so graciously took with me at the last convention. It's framed and it sits on my nightstand. IT ONLY COST $500!!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT???? Of course, yes, I had to pay to get into the convention and it was another $500 for my Golden Tickets and with the photos, panels, breakfasts and other delightful convention goodies it really eats up my disability check, but I don't mind. I'M KNOW THAT J SQUARED DONATE ALL THAT MONEY TO CHARITY!!!! They are such good Christian boys. And to see Jensen in business with his friend, that lovely Jep Robertson, it just warms my Christian heart!

Jensen and Jared could have been BIG BIG BIG in film but they chose to stay and do the show for us devoted fans! They are such humble boys.

I'm going to pray that they come to your party, R276!!!!!

I so hope you're kidding R276. If not, I feel major disappointment is in your future.

R278, You made me laugh! WW for you!

Umm, the boys are back to work in August. They go back to Vancouver in mid-July

Supernatural 13.18 ‘Bring ’em Back Alive’ Promo

Horrible show, horrible actors.

They just don't come any more d list than this.

I hate the British guy from the British Men of Letters. I want to see him suffer and die and stay dead. Does the show have British characters because of British viewers? You would think British viewers would be upset since the British MoL are evil and without conscience.

Thanks R280.

I think for my 70th birthday I may have to travel up to Vancouver and book out a hotel for my birthday party with Jared & Jensen.

I will have to spend the money I left for my niece & nephew in my will but I don't want to disappoint The Boys.

It will have to be quite an upmarket hotel because The Boys probably are used to only the best.

This will cost me more but they are worth it!!

I invited Misha too!!!

I haven't heard back from him yet, but i know he is busy.

He is very kind to me at conventions too.

He always moves aside when he sees me coming as I think he thinks I need to go to the bathroom quick instead of just wanting to meet him.

He's so thoughtful!!

I think i may sit Jensen next to me on one side and Jared on the other.

Jensen will be next to my sister Martha. She is 80 and can't hear too well and I hope Jensen wont have to shout too much. Her hearing is not good!!

I am so excited and am counting down the days!!

I actually like the Brit!

He's been really helpful lately, I mean he rescued Gabriel!! That's fantastic.

I have a feeling he'll be dead soon. He is going with Dean to the alternate, dangerous world.

😉😉

They have a convention in Vancouver.

Sometime in August or early September, I think.

I've enjoyed the show from the very beginning and continue to do so. It's often inventive, they've had interesting side character after side character, and they've done well with having overarching themes.

I don't understand why people get so caught up with the personal lives of celebrities. Why can't people just enjoy them for their talent and for what they present? It's like people bitching about Barbra Streisand's politics and losing sight of her amazing talent. I wouldn't want to spend 15 seconds with Eminem but that doesn't mean that I can't see that he also has a certain talent. I guarantee that every single person has some actor or singer or comedian who they really enjoy watching perform but they would completely disagree with most of their personal views if they knew them.

Datalounge would rather we have a bunch on talentless dullards who bang on about gay civil rights 24/7 than putting that all aside and enjoying a piece of artistic expression for just 40 minutes in a week.

What a tiresome lot that would be to have over for dinner.

That fact that you would consider Supernatural as"artistic expression," R288, is more than enough for me to turn down your dinner invitation. You and your ilk are the tiresome ones. Perhaps you'll get lucky, though, and R284 will invite you to his birthday party.

Sorry Supernatural Fan Fraus but I am firmly ensconced in the Hater's Camp. No way can I ignore some D-List actor being a Republican and in bed with the Duck Dynasty's Clan. That ain't happening, not for a ridiculously bad show like Supernatural.

Now, I [italic]can[/italic] over look the political affiliations of really talented actors such as someone like Gary Oldman. Oldman is a huge, flaming republican and bat shit crazy IRL, but he's a talented and critically acclaimed actor who works in big, well made films with high production values. I'm not sitting around thinking about how cute he is or fantasizing about fucking him, either, like you guys are with this dude.

I might watch Supernatural every blue moon, like if I'm home sick, but I'd NEVER go to a convention or to this guy's brewery. I'd NEVER buy anything from him. I have adopted kids and that really changes how you view people who don't vote on your side. Sorry but it does.

Loving them is easier than hating them.

Lighten up.

no it isnt r291. thank you but i don't do repubs who pal around with duck dynasty

I just don't get how you people still watch this crap! I watched off and on til season 4 or 5 then it got stupid as fuck. I watched the Scooby episode last week because I saw it trend on Twitter and figured what the hell but it was so bad! I stopped paying attention 15 mins into it. I didn't have anything else to do tonight and I can't sleep so I watched Thursday's episode, streamed it online, and it was worse than the Scooby one. Jared is a very bad actor. He's so bad you'd think the director would cut and make him do it over. Jensen is almost as bad. Can't believe he has the duck dynasty people on his property and you dumbass queens are taking up for him. Fuck that.

The last episode with the goddess from the other dimension was unusual. Dean is acting odd and not like his usual self. When he was chained up on the table, he seemed disinterested in his own impending doom. We’ll have to wait to see how it all fits together. r293, the series did have a dip when you stopped watching, but in later seasons it got better. You need to go back to where you left off.

I do love how the supposed haters say they watched a latter episode and it was so bad.

Then they watch the next one which was even worse.

Look forward to seeing them next week to comment how bad the next one is of a series they say they hate but seem to watch.

Closet Jensen & Jared fans!

r294 there are way too many other shows I'd rather be watching than Supernatural. And not for nothing, the acting really does get to me. It's really bad. Jensen is bad but Jared is terrible. And then there's the right wing ducks dynasty thing Jensen's got going on.

Not hardly r295. Not in a million years.

I can't believe people argue over this dumb show. If idiots want to lust over some stupid, nobody republican let them. All gay men care about is looks. Most of them can't think past their dick.

Jensen has been playing Dean in a consistent way, so the departure from that in “Scoobynatural” and “The Thing” is a little jarring. Things should be back on track in 13.18. Looking forward to the return of Rowena in 13.19.

Consistently bad , R298. He's pure soap opera. I never understood why Padalecki is considered so terrible - at least he doesn't growl out his lines in that ridiculous 'batman' voice.

Always amazed at how angry this one little show makes some of you. I think you all watch every episode and have all of Jensen and Jared's posters or something.

wow, it's Saturday night, no work tomorrow and I've found a spn thread on DL. My entertainment cup overfloweth.

r300, I don't think it's that the show itself make people angry. I think it's tthat people like r288 see it as something that it isn't. It isn't 'artistic expression' or BAFTA or Emmy worthy. It's crap but it can be fun crap. And I also think it is the actors that are the real lightening rods. Jared claims he is depressed but said insensitive stuff about Philip S. Hoffman when he overdosed, a man who clearly had mental health issues, and then later Jared posts some waitresses photo? Some chick that gave him bad service? there have been other things he's said on social media that didn't sit well. And everybody knows Jensen is controversial among gays. I personally believe jensen 's a huge homophobe but that's just me. I don't need him to profess it to the world b/c his actions are pretty clear. The dudes from duck diynsaty? That's pretty telling.

I got my vodka/redbull and some medical marijuana at my side. I'm gonna go back and ready every crazy comment on this thread.

SPN is an artistic expression. You may think it crap but it is still an artistic expression.

Jensen is just shy and is that a crime? You expect him to shout out for gay rights from the nearest soap box every other day?

You don't see him out there championing many causes at all. At least in the public eye.

He's reserved and a gentleman.

Leave Jensen ALONE!!

As Calliope pointed out, Supernatural is epic.

Dean's single man tear.

LMFA Supernatural is a terrible show that would've been cancelled in the middle of the first season if it had been on any other network. It's only alive now because it's on the crappy CW. Jared seems weird but I can tolerate him more than Jensen. Jensen has always been a church boy who learnt to keep his views to himself once Supernatural got on the air. two words, stupid bitches: DUCK DYNASTY. No matter how ya try to spin it, theres no getting around that.

I was talking to this guy at the gym and really liked him. He brought up that he was really into this show and that was it. Total dick wilt. Never talked to him again.

In that case R305, the guy dodged a bullet not having to put up with some deranged anti Jensen crusader bellowing his ridiculous conspiracy theories from the rooftops.

He was probably a nice guy, liked a show that entertained him for 40 minutes in a week and that was it.

Thank goodness he didn't get stuck with an hysterical queen taking stupid internet gossip as some kind of fact.

the people watching this show know that it sucks, right? I mean, deep down they know its a train wreck with bad actors, right?

Deranged, R305? The Supernatural fans are the most deranged on the internet! Always insisting that the show is on par with Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad and Homeland, and that the TONS of anti-gay rumors that surround him are just internet folly. Like others have pointed out up thread - - drive on down to Jensen's beer company and order some food and then tell me who made it. Why you fraus spend your time defending someone who does not give 2 shits about you or your rights is beyond me. Oh wait! I forgot. You think he's hot. Question answered.

r307 I'm a SPN fan and I know it's not the most sophisticated entertainment on television but I don't care. I've watched it for years and will continue watching until the last episode. Sure, Jared is off his rocker and Jensen ... Well, lets just say that Jensen has turned out to be a huge disappointment to me. Hiring Jep Robertson and putting him on his brewery really did change how I see him. I don't see how it couldn't. I could deal with just the Republican part but running around with Duck Dynasty people was really the icing on the cake. That was just too hard to ignore. I'll still watch SPN but I won't ever see JA the same way. Still, I think it's silly for people to hate SPN.

It's funny that the haters are the ones more lustful of Jensen & Jared than the fans.

Otherwise, why are they so invested and outraged.

Normally, you'd just move on to some other show and not given them a second thought.

But here they all are posting away in a Supernatural thread.

Conflicted by their passionate crushes being thwarted with their conspiracy theories.

Just let 'em go.

But of course we know you just can't. The undeniable love/lust for them wont let you.

[Quote] I think you all watch every episode and have all of Jensen and Jared's posters or something.

Reminds me of a photo i saw of someone's room completely covered in wall to wall photos of Jared and then they also had a photo of him in a frame next to their bed.

Jensen is allowing Jep Robertson to park his truck on his property. Jep Robertson does not work for Jensen. It seems like a lot of people have decided who Jensen is and Jensen has never gone on record about anything. His social media is completely free of anything political. He has never spoken at a political rally or publically endorsed any political causes or candidates for public office. Gossip from fan conventions is just gossip from fan conventions and is meaningless.

I don't think anyone is comparing Supernatural to Shakespeare, but all of this stuff is subjective. I happen to think that Game of Thrones is stupid and have only watched 30 minutes of one episode, but I don't post on GofT threads or even know anything about the private lives of the actors, unlike those of you who say that you despise Supernatural and the actors but feel the need to share your every thought about the show and the actors.

Ugh, this thread was doing so well. Until asshole haters found it.

It is interesting that posters come her with their vile, hateful comments. If you claim to hate the actors and think the show is stupid, Why. The. Fuck. Are. You. Here??

Is the show great? Maybe not, but it does have a certain something for a lot of people that makes them want to tune in. Don't begrudge people what they find entertaining.

As for the actors themselves, yeah, they may be unstable, unsavory whack-jobs but just as long as their personal views don't make it onto the show, who gives a fuck what they believe?

I've never been to a convention or bought, or donated to any of the causes they espouse so I don't spend money on them. Jared co-owns a bar and the other owns a brewery but I'll never visit either.

[quote] It's funny that the haters are the ones more lustful of Jensen & Jared than the fans. Otherwise, why are they so invested and outraged. Normally, you'd just move on to some other show and not given them a second thought. But here they all are posting away in a Supernatural thread.

I used to be a fan but after finding out what the actors probably are really like I just couldn't watch the show any more. Quite frankly I don't even remember the show exists until I see it mentioned here, or Padalecki is in the headlines for harassing some poor minion.

[quote]It is interesting that posters come her with their vile, hateful comments. If you claim to hate the actors and think the show is stupid, Why. The. Fuck. Are. You. Here??

Eh, this is a gay forum and we can most certainly hate homophobes without having some crazy fan fraus trying to shoo us away.

[quote]this is a gay forum and we can most certainly hate homophobes

Absolutely. But you haven't shown us where the actors are homophobes. You're just repeating and believing fan convention gossip and rumours.

Jared is not a homophobe.

The only people he hates are those in the food service industry.

I'm just curious, R312 and R314, do you know what your doctor and dentist and butcher and postal delivery person and every sales clerk and small business owner (and food service industry employee) thinks and feels about every single issue that you value? You must have a damn tough time making it through a day making moral judgements about every person you encounter while looking down on them for considering doing the same thing to you. I'm absolutely not saying you should agree with all of them or any of them. And if you don't like the show at all, bully for you; no one's forcing you to. Just seems like you'd be on more solid footing basing it solely on what you see on the screen.

Supernatural was renewed for an affirming 14th season last week.

Best looking team on TV since Miami Vice.

Yup, and now that they've started all this alternate world bullshit, who knows who will be coming back.

I'm holding out for JDM. Since he's so hated on Walking Dead, maybe he can come back to this show and be hated as well.

As long as my cutie pie Jack is there, I’ll be fine.

Damn I can't believe this is still on. I saw this thread pop up on my feed and thought it had to be something else not the old TV show. . How does a shitty show like this last so long and the good ones, the shows that actually win awards and normal people watch get axed?

A show can last a long time because viewers become invested in the characters and the ongoing story and want to see how it "ends". I kept watching Teen Wolf all the way after season 2 even though 2 was the best. It would be like reading 80% of a novel and then throwing it away.

[quote]I kept watching Teen Wolf

And there we have it. The discerning taste of a Supernatural frau.

R305

I'm in my last year of med school and have a buddy who is probably the hottest dude I've ever seen. Beautiful face, killer smile, blue eyes and an amazing body. He can fuck any girl he wants. but if she's a fan of One Direction, Supernatural, Lana Del Ray, or any of the daytime soaps, no matter how hot she is, he runs the other way! He claims only crazy, fucked up needy people watch Supernatural. I've watched Supernatural since I was really young but keep it a secret from him, lol. FWIW I think Jensen a Trumper and that's messed up. I really liked him.

R317 This is my first comment, so I am not the poster you referenced, but I most definitely do know the political affiliations of my physician and dentist. The same goes for the person who cleans my house, fixes my toilet and whose running shoes I buy.

Today, I believe that it's stupid not to.

I'm one of those gay men who votes with his wallet. You may be a delightful and marvelous human being, so much so that blue birds light on your shoulders as you walk down the street because, hey, you are just that awesome. But if you are voting Republican, or if even all the evidence points to your voting Republican, I'm not going to eat in your restaurant or stay in your hotel. I’m not going to hire you to come fix my toilet or clean my house or file my taxes or polish my teeth. Should our paths cross I will be perfectly pleasant and kind to you, and if you end up as one my clients I will go to the mat for you in court. But I'm not going to support you in any other way because, hey, you're not supporting me.

All my friends, even my straight ones, feel the same way. Frankly, it’s shocking to me that such a thing would be labeled as “tiresome” by another gay person.

To my mind, Supernatural is an absurdly bad show with absurdly bad actors but it entertains the hell out of me. What can I say; I loved monsters as a kid. It's essentially on all morning in Philadelphia and if I'm not in court, which is rare, I'll watch an episode or two. I don't watch the new episodes at night and couldn't even tell you what the actors’ names are.

I don't really get into the lives of actors, especially actors on a program like this one, but if this stuff is true--if people saw on the Los Angeles County Clerk's site with their own eyes that this actor is a registered Republican, that would be more than enough for me, if I were a big fan. I’m not going to stop watching because of that, but I can see how his gay fans would be disappointed.

That seems pretty understandable to me.

And regardless of whether the Duck Dynasty crew is working for him or merely parking their food truck at his business, they are serving food there which creates a nexus between the two. There’s no denying that. Common sense would say that this actor isn’t going to allow something that contentious and possibly financially damaging if he’s not at least mildly complicit in their beliefs.

In the courtroom prosecutors often ask juries to take into account “the totality of the evidence.” In other words, there might not be a smoking gun with the defendant’s finger prints on it, but the circumstantial evidence, when considered in total, is compelling enough to convict. Given that I’m federal defender (a [italic]defense[/italic] attorney), I’d welcome several of you on my jury any day of the week.

Come on down to Philly.

Being a Christian Republican who associates regularly with the people from Duck Dynasty doesn’t mean that you’re a terrible human being. But it certainly ratchets up the possibly that you’re not voting for gay rights and I think that’s why some people are upset.

It’s puzzling to me why people don’t understand that.

This show is terrible beyond human description. It always has been.

Agreed, R327. It's utter shit.

I have this friend from college who is a freelance writer. She has this carefree, gypsy like existence and she's always going here and there at the drop of a hat for a story. For years we've played a game where she sends me pictures of the parking lot and I have to guess where she is.

Not too long ago she sent me a picture of an outside parking lot with lots of ugly beat up trucks and cars. Every fucking last one of them had some king of right wing sticker on it. Trump 2016, LOCK HER UP, the Confederate Flag. NRA stickers and gun support stickers. She sent me a picture of one bumper sticker on a nice Mercedes that said It Takes a Village Idiot to Believe the Mainstream Media. She said there were more Hillary for Prison 2016 stickers than she could count and even more anti-Obama stickers.

Wanna know where she was? Jensen's brewery in Texas. He was going to be making an appearance there later.

Oh for fuck sake, R328. Even if they story wasn't complete fiction. The Brewery is in Texas. What would you expect to see on bumper stickers in Texas? Get a grip girl.

People arguing over this D list rethug actor are so stupid. Fans are jsut hurt that their boy is a rethug and doesnt give a damn about them. Keep that $$$$ coming for him though! Watch that show & drink that beer!!! Losers.

To each his own, I'm not gonna hate, but I don't get how people watch this show. The Sam actor has got to be one of the worst on tv, and that fake growl that the Dean dude does for his character is so bad. The effects/CGI are shit and the scripts are worse. I don't understand what people see in it.

"Watch that show & drink that beer!!! "

They have a beer now? Like that butterbeer stuff from the Harry Potter? Is it pie flavored?

Beer is a common beverage in the Supernatural universe.

Them boys need a cold one to kick back after killin' demons and fuckin' hot chicks!

Let's organise a Datalounge fan tour of Jensen's Brewery! It should be a blast. We may even bump in Jensen (swoon)! It'd be a fabulous holiday getaway.

The idea that a bunch of American gay guys would pay to go that brewery is exactly what wrong with the United States.

All those earrings and caftans at that TX brewery would cause a riot, r335. And if you saw Jensen he'd probably kick your ass. Kicking ur ass would be the only thing I'd agree with him about.

R300 gets ff'd. Fuck off homophobe.

Just to lesson some of the tension...

And one more to showcase his lips.

R323 My condolences. I gave up after season 4.

This has got to be the worst piece of shit on television and the fans are all crazy. I can't think of any other show with fans as crazy. Jensen is clearly a RePUKE-uh-cahn and it kills all the fraus so they take up for him. Some queens are just dumb like that.

R339 & r340 that guy is ugly AF. He looks like he needs a shower.

Euuueeewwww r 340. That person is not cute at all. Janson may be Right Winger but at least he's attractive. That dude is not.

[quote]He looks like he needs a shower.

I would be happy to soap him up or lick him clean.

R326 You sound smart AND hot.

I like you.

So....here's my question to the people who are fans of Jensen's. Do you not believe that he's really a Republican or do you not care? All you got to do is a simple Google search with his name and the word antigay or anti gay marriage and so much stuff comes up! At the very least you have to admit that he's a Republican and Evangelical, no? Why so many rumors if they aren't true??

LOL. If I googled Jensen and anti gay, all that would come up is a bunch of posts on Datalounge by the conspiracy nutters.

Our young nephilim, Jack, has turned out nicely.

There's no one frauier on DL than the Supernatural fans! This show is so cheesy and bad. I could put up with Jackson or whatever the hell his name is being a republican better than I can put up with his high school drama club acting. I've watched some embarrassing shit in my life but not this crap..

My favorite contributors to this thread are the ones who have never seen Supernatural and know absolutely nothing about the actors, down to what their names are. Yet have such strong opinions about the show and the actors. Hmmmm....

The Datalounge Brewery Tour of Jensen's Beer Factory is in full swing!

We've hired the old Priscilla Queen Of The Desert Bus and now all we need are the passengers.

Double wide seats for the typical Datalounge members and a closet at the back for the pretend haters await.

It's all happening!!!

R351 Your post is ridiculous. No one is going to comment on this thread if they haven't at least seen one episode of spn or know who the actors are.

I'll admit that I was really upset when I first heard that Jensen was conservative but whatevs. It's his life. I watch for Misha more than anything these days. I really love Misha Collins and think he's a standup guy. I think it sucks that Jensen has Jed Robinson working on his brewery. Im totally disappointed in that.

R352 you made me laugh my ass off! I'll be a passenger on your bus anytime. You made me wish stupid Jensen wasn't a Republican turd and was more like Misha. Misha would put on high heels and pull those haters right out of the closet!

R352 Good job! 👍

[quote] The Sam actor has got to be one of the worst on tv

How can you hate on my Sammy???? He's so adorable.

He is literally the only guy on television that I've ever gone gaga for. Like, I am so focused on him when he's on-screen, and I watch every little expression he makes. I'm captivated by him.

Okay, so that sounds a little bit nuts, but I can't help it. I absolutely love Jared.

Sam has so many goofy expressions... I just love him.

This is probably THE trademark Sam expression...

How can anyone not love this face?

I'm suprised at the hostility towards Jared.

He seems like a very gentle guy...

Jared has "kind" eyes.

[quote]Double wide seats

I am a petite. Is there a petite section?

Also, I can’t decide who is hotter Jensen or the guy playing Jack.

I’m glad they brought Rowena back, now bring Crowley back.

Jared IS a terrible actor and his looks have diminished badly over the years. Plus he just seems odd and unstable with all those twats, I mean Tweets. Jensen is a Republican asshole and I have no use for him, but I LOVE Rowena. Really really love Rowena. But above all I love Misha. Hot, super smart (masters degree) and worked in the Clinton White House. I don't get the fascination with Jack. Even though he's 28 he looks way too young to me, and I don't see him as attractive at all. Even so, I'm cool with all of them but Jensen. He can die in a grease fire as far as I care.

Not if you're a waitress, R359 & R360. Not if you're a waitress.

you supernatural qweens are the worst. the show is shit and the actors are shit. the republican, jesus lover that fakes that stupid deep voice wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

We know... we know R364. You keep telling us over and over and over and over and over and over again.

[quote] Call me a bitch but if you're a Republican, even if you love gays, you're actively campaigning against my rights so I'm just not going to be your "fan." I might watch your show on tv but you're not going to get any of my money or my support.

Amen, brother. Amen.

A trip to the brewery would need to be when Jensen is home on hiatus and potentially on-site. Otherwise it's just a brew pub and probably not worth going way out of the way to be there, except for super fans.

Hello boys!

I hate to say it, but I find Jensen most attractive in that photo at R368, and I don't even normally find Jensen attractive.

I wonder if he and Micha get along, being that Micha is more of a progressive, and Jensen is more of a conservative.

My partner's 17 yr old sister lives for this damn show. She's been begging us to take her to "Dean's" bar in Austin as a graduation present, but I bet she doesn't know about Duck Dynasty being there. She's as liberal as they come. I call her my Beautiful Little Triggly Puff, lol. Not to be a cunt, but I don't know how you guys watch this. My partner's sister is only 17 and gets a pass but I got a feeling you fellas are 3 times her age.

Jared has a bar in downtown Austin.

Jensen has that brewery outside of town.

I get the feeling those two do a hell of a lot of drinking.

It must be the brewery then, R371, because she said it's owned by the actor who portrays Dean.

I suspect you are correct about their drinking.

Jensen looks gorgeous in that photo. With guys like Jensen, Jared Leto, and Ryan Phillipe, the idea of turning 40 isn't so scary.

So, do you [italic]look[/italic] like Jared Leto, Ryan Phillipe or Jensen Ackles, R373? If you're on a Supernatural thread Ooooooo-ing and Ahhhhhhh-ing over the crap show and its F list actors, I would wager strongly that you do not.

You [italic]do[/italic] realize that not everyone ages like a film or television actor, don't you, R373?

why you gotta be such a CUNT r374??? We get it, Jensen is a Republican and a Trumper, okay, now move on!!! I am disappointed in himo to but You can still like the show without likeing him. Misha looks better in that photo than any of them. Jared musta been overly depressed that day b/c he looks awful! He looks like he'd smell. Misha be lookin Fiiiiiiiiiiinnnne.

Priscilla Brewery Bus Tour SOLD OUT!!

No seats left!

Kylie Minogue has kindly reimagined Carry On My Wayward Son as a dance number and we will play it on the way to Jensen's Brewery.

Babs Streisand has re-recorded a track for us from The Funny Girl Soundtrack as well!!

Passengers will be pitted against each other in an almighty lip syn battle to Strisand's new "Oh My Dean, I love Him So".

Not a dry eye on the bus after that one!

Tickets are in the mail to those lucky queens who applied.

Oh My Dean I love him so...

He'll never know...

All my life is just despair, but i don't care...

When he takes me in his arms...

The world is bright...alright...

What's the difference if I say... I'll go away...

When I know I'll come back..... on my knees someday...

Whatever my Dean is...

I am his...

Forever more!!!!

I thought I wanted to go on this bus trip, but not any more. Streisand? Minogue? How old do you think we Supernatural fans are?

That bus better look like this, or those Evangelical Republicans are going to beat the shit out of all you f*ags.

What happened to Jared? He was okay cute-ish when he was younger but then he sorta started looking like a Mongoloid. He looked his best at the time of It's a Terrible Life. Now days he looks rough. Nothing cute about him. Plus, he's a huge cunt on social media.

[Quote] I get the feeling those two do a hell of a lot of drinking.

I think so too.

and i'm sure you think that's because of their secret unrequited love for each other r381. smh. i can't ever decide who is more insufferable. you supernatural freaks or the "every male celebrity is gay or bisexual' trolls. when supernatural goes off ja isn't going to hide his fundamentalism anymore and he's going to be just like kirk cameron. i can't wait to watch you all wail and rend your garments when he goes full scale jesus on you.

R382 Where did i say that? Try to lay off the coke.

[quote]Plus, he's a huge cunt on social media.

I agree about Jared. I hate when any celebrity goes on social media to complain about how they weren’t taken care of properly by some company. Consumer snowflakes.

LOL, R383. You know you were thinking it, just like I was.

It's funny how the Jensen haters can't come up with just one documented and provable instance where Jensen has said anything against the gay community.

It's always I heard from so and so who heard it from so and so....

Its like unless a celebrity walks around in a rainbow flag tee-shirt and waves a Gay rights placard at every turn, he's somehow anti gay.

What a tiresome lot you are.

I hope the stomach ulcers are on the improve.

You make a good point R386. I get why people are pissed off at Roseanne. She makes these crazy statements and posts these incendiary things in social media. It's all on the record and out there for people to see and when viewers make the decision not to support her, you can understand why. You do any kind of search for Jensen Ackles and the only thing you find is fan rumors and DL threads about Jensen being homophobic because someone's aunt's mother's cousin's hairdresser's dog walker was at a fan convention and heard this. You can't find anything on the record directly from Jensen.

That being said, everyone has a right to not like this guy or support him, his show, and his private business ventures. And everyone has a right to criticize his allowing Jep Robertson to park his food truck at his brewery. But I still see nothing that Jensen has publicly said that is anti-gay nor I have I seen him publicly support any political candidates.

But how can I enjoy the luxurious production values that Canada has to provide if I don't watch Supernatural?

Sure, I can listen to Joni Mitchell as much as I want but it's not the same thing.

Watch the new Lost In Space.

It's set on planet Vancouver.

[Quote] Watch the new Lost In Space.

What is originality?

No r387 it's more than that. As others have said there is such a thing a preponderance of evidence and a totality of the circumstances.

At the end of the day he's a registered Republican. I saw that with own eyes. That, coupled with the Duck Dynasty decision he made is my reasoning. Plus, he is always going on about how he doesn't like denominations, he only believes in "Bible Churches," which tells me he believes the Judeo Christian Bible is inerrant and that makes him a fundamentalist.

Dear God, R386, your grammatical stench is all over 99% of the pro Jensen comments on this thread! How many fucking times must you use the words "tiresome lot?"

As person after person has said with varying degrees of literacy, no one cares whether Jensen has said anything demonstrably negative against the LGBT community. HE DOESN'T HAVE TO. The fact remains that he's a Republican, and that's enough for a lot of us. Then when you throw in his friendship and business association with Jep Robertson of Duck Dynasty, that just seals the deal. You keep trying to deflect and minimize that Robertson situation by using the word "park" over and over. You'd have us believe that Jep's Republican roach coach just randomly coasted to a stop on Jensen's property one day after innocently running out of gas and that Jensen is just being a good Samaritan by letting him "park" it at his brewery until such time as Jep can refill his tank. No, that's not it. He's serving food there. The name of Jensen's brewery is on his menu.

It's clearly a business relationship.

If those things don't bother you then fine but own that, as others have! Don't claim that those of us who ARE bothered by it are creating these things out of thin air because that just isn't true.

you supernatural freaks argue too much over this d list dumbass. who the fuck cares???

You keep posting that he's a republican, without proof mind you, but so what if he is? I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't go through life asking people to produce their voter registration. I know for a fact that my barber is a big Trumpster, but he does a great job with my hair and I'm not going to stop going to him because of who he votes for.

I'm not the 'you' poster, r394, but I would never go to a Republican barber or a Republican anything but I know that others are fine w/ it. Different people have different feelings about this stuff. I've watched Spn for a long time and won't stop just because Jensen is a Republican. I"ve been in the Spn fandome for a long time and like I think somebody upthread said, his voting regsistration was viewable online and I saw that. Of course, he could have changed since then but having that damn food truck at his brewery bothers lots of fans. Some people are just more political than others.

I imagine the Jensen haters go through their neighbour's garbage bins looking for evidence of possible misadventure You just never know is their motto.

They are seriously unhinged in their grand delusion that Jensen is evil incarnate or something.

I can't imagine many of them having any friends.

They'd be all walking on eggshells around them.

One false step or misplaced word and the accusations of treachery would come thick and fast

Why has this become the fucking JENSEN ACKLES THREAD???? Go start one for yourself.

This is a SUPERNATURAL thread, to discuss the show.

I don't give two fucks about Jensen. So please take it somewhere else.

[quote] I don't go through life asking people to produce their voter registration

JFC R364 How many times and how many different ways you gotta say this? I'm a spn fan but give it a break! I'd shave my head before I'd go to a Trumpster barber but I know that some people would. You and others can argue all you want but that's what it comes down to how sensitive you are about politics.

Lot of folks see votiing Republican as antigay. Maybe you don't but lots do.

Good for you, R397! JA is an asshole but I love spn. Can't we just talk about the goddam show?

Every night at this time this thread gets active. It's like the Supernatural wierdos have some sort of pact. All those 300 pound gay men living in their momma's basements pining away over some Xtian white dude who will never even know their alive.

LOVE the show & the cast & would love to go to Jensen's brewery if I could afford it.

I know that he is probably a conservative & I really hate that. I post on a SPN fanboard and people were VERY upset about Duck Dynasty. Some were trying to pass it off but most were saying that having them there made a lot of the homophobic rumors that follow Jensen ring more true. Jensen seems like a decent human being. I blame his super Christian upbringing. It's hard to deprogram that.

What did you think of tonights episode?

[quote]Why has this become the fucking JENSEN ACKLES THREAD????

We didn't make it a Jensen Ackles thread. You guys did. Because you guys can't mention Supernatural without bringing up the private life of its stars. Jensen is a homophobic republican. Jared is an entitled douche. Mischa is a thirsty creep.

Let's talk about Supernatural, but don't get mad and all pissy when people counter your arguments about the actors on the show.

[Quote] Mischa is a thirsty creep.

I never got a creepy vibe off of him. He does seem to troll the fans a lot though.

[quote] I know for a fact that my barber is a big Trumpster, but he does a great job with my hair and I'm not going to stop going to him because of who he votes for.

There are plenty other barbers, R394. Never in a million years would I use a Trumpster for anything.

[quote]You'd have us believe that Jep's Republican roach coach just randomly coasted to a stop on Jensen's property one day after innocently running out of gas and that Jensen is just being a good Samaritan by letting him "park" it at his brewery until such time as Jep can refill his tank.

LMFAO! This made me snort. Ackles is a right winger, that's clear to anyone with half a brain. I don't understand the intense need some fans have to convince themselves that he isn't. But who the fuck cares? He's an unknown, bad actor on an unknown, bad show. He got lucky, that's all.

[Quote] He's an unknown, bad actor on an unknown, bad show. He got lucky, that's all.

I'm sure all that convention money more than makes up for it.

I wonder if Danneel and Genevieve kick back with some wine and laugh over this thead?

Meanwhile their husbands are in the other room... fucking their brains out.

Wow, the 4-5-18 episode only drew 1.41 million viewers. How the fuck does a show stay on for 13 season w/ that kind of ratings? I googled Jensen's net worth and most sights put him at 10 mil. That isn't very much for a show that's been on that long. He must not get much $ per episode. I'm 34 and dated a heart surgeon that was 43 and he was worth 12 mil! I snooped and found a statement of assets & liabilities from his financial firm, lol. 10 mil is a lot of $ but not relly for a Hollywood person. Most have houses that cost more than that. How much do they make from the cons? I don't know if Jenson is a deplorable but i think it's safe to say he's a republican.

[quote]He must not get much $ per episode.

He makes up for it with a successful brewery.

He's not making much money off that brewery yet, R408. The Duck Dynasty people gotta' get their cut.

[quote] He's not making much money off that brewery yet, R408. The Duck Dynasty people gotta' get their cut.

And don't forget the tithing to Jensen's megachurch!

I wish Sammy would cut his hair.

He would look so much better.

lol r410 & You are so correct, R411! Plus Jared is losing his hair and you can sometimes see the dark powder they put on his scalp to make his hair seem less thin. Jared is not very cute to me anymore and neither is homophobic douchebag rethug Jensen. Misha is a snack though.

Has anyone on this thread posted an accusation about Jensen that was backed up with a link or some kind of legitimate proof?

OF Course not, R413.

They can’t offee “proof” because there is none.

Just hate and vitriol.

It was a good episode last night. It did tick up some in the ratings. Most other CW shows are lower in ratings, if you can believe that!! Only Flash does better.

Mischa is a thirsty, loser, pandering creep.

I'm reading this thread and find ... I don't care. The show Supernatural is terrible and so are the untalented CW actors. If they're repubs, and it sounds like they are, then that just makes your little lives even sadder. Thank you, socially akward supernatural fraus. You've taught me how rich people feel about poor people.

R413 aka r414: You sound angry. Very, very angry. So, tell you what. You just keep those Supernatty posters up in your room, especially the ones of Jensen. Don't you let those mean old haters make you question your love for him OR Jensen's love for you! Don't you do it.

413 414...ummm, cunt...the link to the duck dynasty thing is here on dl. Jensen talking about jesus on youttube. Go google it, cunts.

No one has even mentioned that he's a racist. He put this thing up supporting this kid who was supposedly being bullied...but the kid was from a white supremacist family, and he'd been calling other kids the n word. Look it up. His name and racist, it comes up. Then stfu.

Going into season 14 next year and the poor haters fight on their losing battle. No proof, nothing but heresay that would be laughed out of a court. The Jared & Jensen train is unstoppable. You may as well admit defeat and go and whine about some other imaginary slight by some other celebrity.

This weeks episode I detected some homoerotic vibes between Ketch & Dean.

I'd be a nasty and mean fucking session, I imagine.

I don't see that, r419, anything between Dean and Ketch. I've been a big Jensen fan for a long time and have come to terms with him almost 100% being a republican. I remember a similar thread years ago and peple were saying there was no proof. Then somebody posted a link to the voter's website where Jensen was registered as a Republican! YOu had to put in his date of birth but it popped right up! People that were defending him were so upset and were like omg it's really true, whine whine whine. But if you like him so what? For some fans it's a dealbreaker but for others they don't care.. I'm not in the US and I'm not gay so I don't care.

You dipshits arguing over this nobody actor and stupid as fuck show are some goddam TRAGIC QUEENS!

Supernatural virgin here. I streamed it earlier after reading part of this thread today. I've heard of it before but never watched it. I can't believe you guys are arguing over the dude in the snow, the one with the lighter hair! He looks 50! He's ok handsome for an older dude but he is not worth 400 comments! I'm sorry but I thought the show was terrible! I know I don't really know what's going on in it but it seemed cheaply made and the actors were really bad. Sorry but no way would I watch it again. And sorry but no way he's a Dem if he's friends with the people on Duck Dynasty or in business with them. That's my humble opinion anyway.

one of them brags bout his homophobia, think the short haird one

odd as theyr gay as fuk

many boycott their show.

THEYR BOTH GAY HATERS

TO HELL WITH EM

[quote] Supernatural virgin here. I streamed it earlier after reading part of this thread today. I've heard of it before but never watched it. I can't believe you guys are arguing over the dude in the snow, the one with the lighter hair! He looks 50!

R422, you have to watch the earlier seasons of Supernatural.

TNT reruns four episodes per day, in order. They start with season 1, and then go all the way through season 9 or 10 (not sure), and then they start all over again.

I actually got hooked on the show last year, even though I had heard about it for over 10 years. I finally started watching, beginning with the first episode, and I really liked it.

Back then, Jared was cute as heck, and Jensen spoke in a normal voice. Somewhere along the line, he started speaking with a much deeper "Batman" voice, which (if you watched earlier seasons), you'll know is fake as fuck.

I highly recommend the first two or three seasons. You'll like them.

R418 Who is? Jared or Jensen?

In case anyone was curious, Jensen Ackles is allegedly responsible for or directly related to the following events:

1) The Holocaust

2) 9/11

3) World War 2

4) Hiroshima and Nagasaki

5) The Black Plague

6) The Crucifixion

7) Pearl Harbor

8) American Slavery

9) World War 1

10) The Titanic

R427 You are just weird. Your weirdness is why people think all Supernatural fans are freaks.

I believe it, R427.

The guy is a menace to humanity.

Agree r422. Pretty sure most of the people in this thread are straight women; makes no sense otherwise.

R427, you missed the real ones. Homophobe, deplorable, racist.

[quote] I can't believe you guys are arguing over the dude in the snow, the one with the lighter hair! He looks 50!

Thank you for the input, Mr. Singer.

The Jensen haters have this thing about male caucasians who are good looking, successful and rich.

Once they establish that, they look for anything, however fanciful, to try and besmirch them.

You can bet all the money in the world you'll find them in the Timeless Matt Lanter threads as well-trashing him and his wife.

They're such miserable people.

Yeah, if you're gonna to start watching might as well doi it from the beginning. The first three seasons are totally the best.

Now I'm curious, why are they trashing Matt Lanter? What did he do? I just watch these shows, I stay out of fan wars. Is he supposedly evil like Jensen?

R430 I agree. They're straight women or the same one or two gay men posting over and over and over. The "he just parks there" poster and the "DL hates white successful good looking men" poster and the "I don't check voter registration cards" poster and the "Jensen is responsible for. . . ." poster and the "You're all tiresome" poster, they all sound like the same person to me.

It's just a tv show for fuck's sake! Why do people get so wound up about this crummy little show? I watch it sometimes but goddam.

[quote]It's just a tv show for fuck's sake! Why do people get so wound up about this crummy little show? I watch it sometimes but goddam.

Then why are you posting in this thread? Why add to the crazy?

Crazy can be fun to watch, 437.

I'm working on my PysD but several years ago when I was completing my masters I took a course in media and psychology, and the professor actually used SPN as an example in class. He claimed that the show sparked something in certain people who had poor quality relationships with their family and others. He went on to say that we all crave a Dean in our lives, someone who is big, strong and morally correct who loves us unconditionally and whose only concern is our wellbeing. Someone who would go to hell and back for us; in this case, literally. And as he said, too, it doesn't hurt that Dean is physically appealing. My professor opined that people craving those close relationships; i.e., some fans, would often project those positive attributes of the television character Dean onto the actor, Jensen.

If you look at it through that lens, it makes perfectly good sense that gay men would go a little crazy defending this person who, at least on the surface, appears to be quite conservative.

So your prof was saying that supernatural fans are crazy as fuck, R438.

Does it really take a doctorate to know that???

[quote]The "he just parks there" poster and the "DL hates white successful good looking men" poster and the "I don't check voter registration cards" poster and the "Jensen is responsible for. . . ." poster and the "You're all tiresome" poster, they all sound like the same person to me.

you just figured that out?!?!

[quote] If you look at it through that lens, it makes perfectly good sense that gay men would go a little crazy defending this person who, at least on the surface, appears to be quite conservative.

I'm fairly certain the craziest Supernatural/Jensen/Jared fans here are women.

Women always get blamed on here, when some people don't want to face certain truths about our fellow gay men. The type of women who are fangurling about Supernatural are not posting on DL.

R442, this site regularly gets exactly the kinds of women that are shipping male actors and celebrities. Sure the most lunatic ones, in this thread for example, could be men but they do sound like women. There aren't that many hardcore SPN fans posting here anymore, though, there used to be more. I'm sure they realized this site isn't really the best place to declare their never dying love for Ackles and Padalecki.

I think you're both right. I think there are definitely some straight females on here, but I also think there are 1-2 gay men on here posting multiple times and talking to themself.

I'm a middle-aged gay man and I like the show a lot, but I don't really care about the actors per se. I don't have anything to do with conventions or fandom or any of that and I don't go out of my way to watch the actors on talk shows. The "revelations" about their/his politics don't bother me enough to ruin the show for me. They are Texans, after all. I have to say, though ... the intensity of the argument on this thread is a little disturbing. On both sides.

Oh, and I think Genevieve has a minor case of caneface in that pic upthread, but I could be wrong.

ackles the gay hater?

figures

[Quote] Now I'm curious, why are they trashing Matt Lanter? What did he do? I just watch these shows, I stay out of fan wars. Is he supposedly evil like Jensen?

I thought it was because they're annoyed he hasn't come out.

R438, That's a really good explanation. It would make sense for straight women too. I would love to be able to take a class like that! Sup is definitely my guilty pleasure. I know it looks cheap and that the acting and writing suck but I've always gotten off on the Sam/Dean chemistry. I would love to have a Dean in my life! FWIW I'm a gay male and I'm 36. I found this thread trying to find Thursday's episode to stream, lol. I knew a long time ago that Jensen is Republican. It was disappointing I guess but I can't change it. I like the character he plays but I don't have any interest in him as an actor or person. He's not that good of an actor so he probably will not do anything after sup, but if he did I probably wouldn't know about it.

[quote]the intensity of the argument on this thread is a little disturbing. On both sides.

Whatever, Helen.

You must not get out on the Lounge much if you think this is bad.

The alternate universe really opens up the possibility of bringing anyone who has died back to the real universe. I'd like to see Mother Winchester left behind. She's only been dead weight. Lucifer is not being himself, so that's a little confusing.

Speaking of Lucifer, does Mark Pellegrino play him a little bit gay for Sammy, or is that just my imagination?

r452 there is a strong implication that Lucifer fucked Sam in the cage.

On the contrary, r459, I'm on the DataLounge way too much. It's just the intensity of the argument on THIS topic. I wouldn't have expected it. Now, don't misunderstand me; I am very familiar with the bitchiness and cuntiness that this place has to offer, and at times I have served up big scoops of it myself. This just seems like such a small thing to inspire quite so much rage. Live and learn, I guess.

Oh, and my name isn't Helen, you ugly, brainless cow. (How was that? Cunty enough for you?)

R450 you made me laugh out loud. I haven't heard a gay man refer to another gay man as Helen in years. R451, the alternate uni thing is stupid. The people there aren't the same as the ones in the real world so who the fuck cares if you can bring back dead people? They won't be the same. At this point I cannot tell you why I continue to watch this show. First 5 seasons were awesome then it went to shit. Nowadays the show sucks, it's clear Jensen is a deplorable, Jared is off his depressed rocker, and I know I should give up. But I really want it to end so I don't have to. R452, No, I had not noticed that. I will say that Mark Pellegrino is probably the best actor on the show. Emily Swallow and Mark Shepherd were also very good.

[quote] there is a strong implication that Lucifer fucked Sam in the cage

That's what I thought, R453.

Somewhere along the line, I remember Lucifer making reference to that, in one of his little "chats" with Sammy.

I thought it was my imagination, but I'm happy that it wasn't. It's kinda hot.

God damn it! At r454 I meant to refer to r450. I hate when that happens.

r454 I don't think the arguing has been that bad but I haven't read the whole thread. Today with Trump in office people are really into politics. How celebs vote is a big thing. I have some friends who are adopting a baby and their pediatrician said something to them like: 'Every person out there who has voted Republican has helped keep you guys childless until now. Don't forget that!'

He was right too.

I believe Jensen is a republican but it doesn't kill the show for me. It will go off soon enough and he'll fade into oblivion or make Jesus Movies or be on the Hallmark Chanel. And I won't watch any of them.

Here's a young Mark Pellegrino. MARY!

Misha has something to say...

So does Mark...

Misha, again...

I think Mark Pellegrino is much better looking now than when he was young. Thanks for the picture, r459.

[quote]there is a strong implication that Lucifer fucked Sam in the cage

Oh terrific. Now you are going to send the fat fraus and Jensen himself into hysterics. Great job!

Lucifer ploughing Sam's boney ass is rather hot.

I'm starting the fanfic novel pronto.

That funny episode entitle "Fan Fiction" celebrating their 100th episode, is airing today (Monday 4/16) on TNT.

Check your local listings. It's a good one.

They never come right out and say it on the show, except for some asides by Luci but most fans believe that Sam was repeatedly raped in the cage.

Who has the biggest peen on the show?

Jared has the longest and Pellegrino has the fattest?

Based on what I know it is in this order;

Jack

Ketch

Misha

Jared

Jensen

Pellegrino is between Jack and Ketch

Jack?

You think he's like some endowed Bel Ami model or something?

[quote]They never come right out and say it on the show, except for some asides by Luci but most fans believe that Sam was repeatedly raped in the cage.

The same fans that swore for years that J2 is a real thing?

[quote]Who has the biggest peen on the show?

Ackles certainly hasn't shown practically any bulge in even the tightest pants. Based on his body size Padalecki looks like he might have a sizable one and I vaguely remember seeing some nice bulging when I was still watching the show.

Alexander Calvert has BDF and is Canadian. I would say at least a solid 8.

What's BDF?

Dear God this is a terrible show. All feigned shock and cuntiness aside, I can't believe people watch it. There are so many REALLY well done television productions these days. Why waste your time on this schlock?

I think we heard you the first 35 times you posted the same thing r475

It seems that folks on the Datalounge are bad listeners, R475.

And by the way, your shows sucks and your boy is a rethug.

question for people that watch this. Do you tell people you watch it? Do others you know watch it? I will dvr it and then watch 3 or 4 episodes but I fast forward through a lot. I would die a thousand times before I'd admit to watching it. I think it has a bad stigma, more than even the housewivess shows. If I said something about watching it to another gay guy they'd tell me Jensen is Christian Deluxe and a republican (I know this) and that the show is meant for kids (I know this to.) so I keep it all on the down low. Are you the same?

Of course. This show is no more silly or out there than Game of Thrones or Westworld.

R479 Pretty sure those shows are much more respected than SPN.

Yes GOT AND WW are more respected, but who cares? Its all the same genre of show. One doesnt have more value than the other.

[quote] Its all the same genre of show. One doesnt have more value than the other.

It doesn't go quite like that.

non us fan here what the fuck is Duck Dynsaty?

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[quote]The people there aren't the same as the ones in the real world so who the fuck cares if you can bring back dead people?

It allows actors and/or characters that the fans like to come back even though their original characters are dead. I like this method better than having long lost twins show up.

Gabriel reappearing just long enough to kill off Asmodeus seemed a little empty. I assume Gabriel will be back in future episodes though. Asmodeus was a good villain though. Lucifer should have been the one to take of Asmodeus though since Asmodeus is a usurper of Lucifer's previous role. I wonder if Rowena will make a play to be the new queen of Hell since the throne is vacant.

[quote] It allows actors and/or characters that the fans like to come back even though their original characters are dead

I wonder why they never brought Bobby or Kevin back. I guess they weren't as popular with the viewers.

I would like to see younger brother Adam Milligan come back, though. He's cute.

Um, both Bobby and Kevin have been back.

Jim Beaver is doing work right now in Vancouver for another episode or episodes.

.

It was crazy to kill off Bobby. He was lovable like the old man in Dukes of Hazzard and he let the boys know when they were idjits.

The guy who played the character "Cole" is so cute.

He appeared in a few episodes of SPN, but I wish they had made him a regular character. He has such pretty eyes.

Here's a better picture of the guy who played Cole, actor Travis Aaron Wade.

Okay, for the people who claim that Supernatural fans are crazy? I googled Travis Aaron Wade, just to find out his wikipedia biography, and I came across some salacious fan information about him.

I have no idea what this one "fan" is referring to, but they sound batshit crazy. And so does the actor, by the way!

However, this one fan sounds VERY invested in the show, and you can see from his/her comments, that it's borderline mental.

See for yourself.

I got bored by the forth line of her tale and tuned out.

R483 Duck Dynasty is a reality show.

R487 Adam should have been brought back [italic]ages[/italic] ago.

R490 There's a reason why TAW hasn't been brought back. Dude is a nutjob.

I can't decide between Jensen and Matt Lanter.

They are both so yummy.

The parallels between Jensen and Lanter are actually uncanny. Both were TV eye-candy. Both very religious. Both (surprisingly) did racy shoots. Both don't party much in HW circles. Jensen's a bit luckier though - he has a longer stretch of steady TV work (so more $) and seemingly a more down-to-earth, less PR-hungy spouse.

Where is this Jensen is Jesusy coming from. You definitely don't see it in his social media. If he's that guy, he doesn't broadcast his religion that way.

Jensen is very religious. He's talked about that at the earlier Supernatural conventions. I've heard from people I completely trust and believe that Jensen purposely tamped down his religiosity when Supernatural began to air, at his agent's request. I've heard from those who would know that, at the time, Jensen really wanted a career in film. Whether that's still true or not I don't know but the story was that his people told him that if he wanted a real Hollywood career he was going to have to stop all of that THANK YOU HEAVENLY FATHER stuff he was doing. Back in the day, before Supernatural, he couldn't give a 30 second sound bite without talking about how much he loved Jesus.

Word on the street is that Jensen plans on letting Josh Duggar open up a daycare spot at the brewery so parents can get their drink on while the kiddies are properly minded.

R496 Also Jensen didn't upload a video of himself jerking off.

Yeah, Travis ended up being a nutcase. What's worse for him is that he was probably banned from conventions. That's where the money is at for all the one-time guests ad the more regularly occurring characters.

Some actors might only be doing conventions!

[quote]I have some friends who are adopting a baby and their pediatrician said something to them like: 'Every person out there who has voted Republican has helped keep you guys childless until now. Don't forget that!'

This is totally true and your friends are lucky to have such a great doctor.

Sorry but my mind just can't grasp that you guys watch this garbage.

[Quote] That's where the money is at for all the one-time guests ad the more regularly occurring characters. Some actors might only be doing conventions!

I wonder if that's what Mark Sheppard will be doing? Has he said why he left the show?? What went wrong?

Jensen, I think thanked God Or Jesus when he won some award 20 years ago.

From that, the haters presume Jensen goes around and bashes folk over head with bible quotes and probably helps out The Westburo Church on the picket lines when available.

No proof, but that doesn't matter to them.

Yeah, nobody really knows what the hell happened with Mark Sheppard.

I don't think he's doing conventions anymore. He actually is a talented actor and can get jobs elsewhere, though.

Exactly, R504, one lousy speech decades ago and people still hold that against him.

Everybody's mum on the situation. Maybe he wasn't the only semi-regular actor that was going to be done permanently.

Maybe both he and that fucking thirsty asshole Collins were both supposed to die and NOT come back at the end of last season.

Of course that talentless twat might have conned his way back for another season and Mark was screwed and he did leave permanently. He seemed to get along well with the J's. He seems pissed at the show-runners.

[Quote] Maybe both he and that fucking thirsty asshole Collins were both supposed to die and NOT come back at the end of last season.

Did Misha murder your dog??

I think Sheppard left simply because he had had enough of doing the role and was bored by it after all those years.

I don't think he had any gripe with the cast or crew.

His only slight grievance was how the character exited but that played no role in his decision to move on.

No, but he killed my show, R507.

[quote]The professor claimed that the show sparked something in certain people who had poor quality relationships with their family and others. He went on to say that we all crave a Dean in our lives, someone who is big, strong and morally correct who loves us unconditionally and whose only concern is our wellbeing. Someone who would go to hell and back for us; in this case, literally. And as he said, too, it doesn't hurt that Dean is physically appealing. My professor opined that people craving those close relationships; i.e., some fans, would often project those positive attributes of the television character Dean onto the actor, Jensen.

Straight female here with a little insomnia, just passing through, but the above really struck a MAJOR chord with me. I mean, goddam. I think it applies to a lot of the fans, especially the crazier ones such as moi.

I started watching Jensen on Days, then on Dark Angel when he was Alec/X5-494. By the time SPN rolled around I was totally obsessed with all things Jensen. Spn was just my shit, more than any of the other shows he'd ben on. I couldn't do without it. It really did speak to me, and shade me all you want, I loved the sexual tension between Sam and Dean. I'd never even met a gay person at that time but the Sam/Dean thing was really erotic to me. I WANTED Dean to be happy and it was Sam that made him happy and what with the sexual tension and the way they were raised with no one but each other, it was easy to imagine them together-together.

Anyway, suffice it to say that I think your college professor was right. I fit the profile. I was adopted, bounced around in foster care, successfully managed to destroy all of my personal relationships. My only saving grace was that I was smart and did really, really well in school. It seems really fucking obvious but to see it written out in black and white up there (what your professor said) is jarring. I have always, always wanted A Dean, like you said, somebody who put me above every one else, even themselves.

The only thing that ever bothered me about Jensen was his religion, since I'm atheist. When he was on Days he mentioned his religion in every interview he gave. He continued to do that until Supernatural started then it dropped off. I counted just now: I have been to 16 Spn conventions and they have changed SO much over the years. Jensen used to freely talk about his faith in the early cons and now even questions regarding religion are banned. You guys saying he isn't Republican or Conservative or Evangelical are just wrong. Like me, you may not like that he's those things but it's a given that he is. The whole Spn fandom knows that. That's why lots of LGBT people don't like him and that stunt he's pulled with Duck Dynasty people made it a whole lot worse.

I can't believe you sad fucks watch this trashy shit. You are arguing over people that aren't even real celebrities b/c nobody knows who the fuck they are! And one of them might be a rethug? Fuck that.

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Jensen is probably religious but so what?

Religious people do not automatically follow every single doctrine that's written.

There seems to be an assumption here that anyone religious automatically hates gays.

Then again, the stupidity on DL does not surprise.

Death has her eyes set on the Winchesters. Get caught up before tomorrow's new episode

Supernatural season 13, episode 19 synopsis

Sam and Dean Winchester will have a mother of a problem in Thursday’s episode of Supernatural, according to The CW‘s description of the upcoming episode.

Thursday’s installment is called “Funeralia,” and the premise is that Sam and Dean (Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles) have to once again tangle with Rowena (returning guest star Ruth Connell). Is she back up to her old evil ways? Rowena’s been somewhat helpful to the Winchester brothers earlier this season, but she has something up her sleeve this week and it’s not cookies. So it’ll be up to our heroes to stop her before she carries out her plan.

Also in this episode, Castiel (Misha Collins) goes to Heaven. Not in any kind of bad way, because he needs reinforcements. But will he get the reinforcements he wants? Looking at how Supernatural season 13 has gone so far, totally not. So we’ll see how sideways things go for Castiel in the other half of “Funeralia.”

And hopefully we’ll get a very good explanation for why Dean looks so bloody and battered in the promotional photos, too. Because really, he appears like he needs a vacation pronto. Then again, when don’t Sam and Dean Winchester need a break considering all the stuff they have to deal with? Thursday’s episode will be another wild ride.

Here’s how The CW officially describes the episode:

Sam and Dean must stop Rowena, who is on a deadly mission. Meanwhile, Castiel looks to heaven to recruit angels for an impending invasion but is shocked by not only what he finds, but who.

I have the vapours just thinking of the next episode!

R511 right on cue. How many times are you going to post this? And who are you to determine which celebrities are "celebrity enough" to discuss anywhere? They are two working actors. They are not porn stars. They are not Instagram thirst traps. How does it affect your day if people are discussing them?

And finally, regarding Jensen's politics and religion. Maybe he is the biggest Jesus freak whoever Jesus freaked and maybe he's the biggest republican in the RNC. However, you don't see him in social media or anywhere else asking his fans to support conservative or religious causes. You can't find any public mentions of any of those two topics in any of his public statements, except some award show where he thanked Jesus 30 years ago.

I think the point a few us are trying to make is that there seems to be a disconnect between, gossip, mythology, and fan convention bullshit and reality. There is nothing on the record to back up any of the claims about this guy. He's a straight white guy from Texas, I would be more shocked if he weren't conservative and republican.

r519, it doesn't bother you even a little that he's most likely a homophobe?

Homophobes are the worst R520, but I can't dislike someone based on mere gossip and speculation.

"He's most likely" R520

Again just making stuff up as if fact.

I agree with the poster up the thread who said that it's got to be mostly het women posting on this thread. Het women and MAYBE1 or 2 sad sack gay men pretending to be different people posting over and over and over and over defending douchebag Jensen Ackles.

There's too much smoke surrounding Jensen for there not to be fire. I watch the show and have for a while but, yeah, he's a rethug.

If YOU don't want to believe that then ok but stop trying to imply that those of us who do are reaching or overly speculative. Jesus fuck, the man has people from Duck Dynasty working on his brewery and he's friends with them.

JFC, R511, give it a fucking rest!!!!!!

Why the fuck are you here on this thread?? You hate the show, yet constantly feel the need to criticize and harass those that are wanting to have a civil discussion about it.

Nobody is holding a gun to your head. Go start a thread about your shows and leave everyone here in peace.

Agree, R510, who wouldn't want their own Dean? And yes, their chemistry was off the fucking charts in the beginning. I'll admit to being one of "those tin hats" that believe the leads are together and though I've never been to a convention, I get the feeling or impression that many, many of the goers "get" that these guys might, possibly be together and that they live for those moments when Jensen and Jared reveal some tiny detail that might reinforce their beliefs.

I think it's just one gay guy r523 posting from different accounts trying to look like multiple people taking up for Jensen r523. So many comments sound like the same person. I watch the show but will be the first to say to you that the fans are legit batshit. The ones that feel like they have to defend the actors especially Jensen are the worst.

Here's another Supernatural cutie.

His name is David Hoflin, and he played Eldon Styne, one of the Frankenstein family.

I don’t know why Dean is so pining for Charlie. He’s had a lot of other people in his life who should be ahead of her. I think she’s annoying. I wasn’t glad to see her slain, because I would rather keep all the longtime regulars. I hate the shock when someone like Kevin is suddenly and unexpectedly tossed into the dead pile.

As is Deans constant mantra in all aspects of his life. He feels GUILTY for not saving her. She died helping them so he feels like shit.

i'm a big spn fan & was voting for Jensen in the people choice awards on my phone at dinner w/ a friend years ago and one of my friends i was with gave me massive shit for it. my friend was bitching about the same thing everybody else bitches about, that Jensen's a Republican/Evangelican and my friend kept saying i was stupid to like him. i just kinda put that stuff outta my head and kept watching spn but i really am disappointed that he has jepp robertson cooking for his brewery. that pisses me off bad. those guys are such assholes.

R527 I can't believe you didn't like charlie! i love me some felicia day! she's awesome but the chalie in the other dimension seems lame. r525 it's obvious that the same jensen defenders are posting a million times again and again. hell there aren't that many people that really watch spn! it only got a 1.5 in the ratings last week and that's the 3rd lowest score of the season. Last week was only 1.4 so it's good that its' up but damn. i can't decide if i want it to go off or not. sometimes when it's real bad and embarrassing i think yeah it should end but i know i'll freak when it does.

lol, when my friend caught me voting for spn in the pca he said that there are really only about 10 people in the hole fandom and they just vote over and over until their fingers bleed and they have to pee in jars not to leave their computers.

[quote] lol, when my friend caught me voting for spn in the pca he said that there are really only about 10 people in the hole fandom and they just vote over and over until their fingers bleed and they have to pee in jars not to leave their computers.

rofl, that's hilarious.

why are people so mean to supernatural fans? it's a harmless show, that's fun and light-hearted.

the haters just want to hate!

Yea, well Supernatural fans give people LOTS of ammunition, r530. It's fine to enjoy it but when shrill people start insisting that Jensen Ackles deserves an Emmy and that all the critics are crazy because Supernatural is just [italics]so[/italics] much better than Game of Thrones and Homeland and Stranger Things and Breaking Bad and Downton Abby and EVERY OTHER SHOW THAT'S EVER BEEN ON; and that Supernatural has never gotten any noteworthy nominations because it's a genre show--Good Lord, it all just becomes exhausting. No offence to anyone here, but I especially find the "Jensen is perfect" faction of the fandom beyond taxing. Their the ones who insist that he's neither Republican nor religious and that he is perfect in every way. This thread is a prime example. The last time I was on it was well over a week ago. It popped up in my feed tonight so I checked it out and it's no different than it was last week. You people are still arguing about the same things!

R511

[Quote] And yes, their chemistry was off the fucking charts in the beginning. I'll admit to being one of "those tin hats" that believe the leads are together and though I've never been to a convention, I get the feeling or impression that many, many of the goers "get" that these guys might, possibly be together and that they live for those moments when Jensen and Jared reveal some tiny detail that might reinforce their beliefs.

R511 is right. This show fucking sucks. Supernatural fans are all weird as fuck.

I don't know how I missed a Suprenatrual thread with over 500 posts. It's the actors that make people crazy. Ackles is a fundamentalist and I think that sets people off. Some of his fans want to piss and moan that there's no proof that he's still a fundy conservative, while others accept that he is and take it personally. After I retired I started watching the show during the day. The old seasons are so much better than the current ones. Relatively speaking anyway. It's a pretty bad show period and the acting is atrocious but it can be mindless fun. I have no clue how it stays on year after year with such bad ratings.

As long as no one attacks Sammy, I'm good.

He's just the sweetest. :o)

And it goes without saying that a good many of the fans are crazyISH. Not all of them but a good many of tghem. The comments here will show you that. Be crtical of the show or actors and fans go off. I like what R438 had to say about relationships. It is obvious but makes sense.

Jared was so handsome when he was younger..

I didn't realize how long he has been in the acting business.

So cute!

Sammy the character is great, but Jared PadaWhatever is not so cool. Jared has done some shady things on social media, R538. I really like the tv show but the actors have too much baggage. Jensen is known to be a republican and Jared seem really crazy. I do like to watch the tv program though.

Jared seems to really enjoy being a dad.

Also, considering all the craziness surrounding the show, Jared seems to have a solid marriage and family life.

I just don't think Jared is a very good person, r542. I think he has anger issues and his real self has come out on twitter. It's a spn thread on data lounge so I'm sure you'll have excuses for him but that's just my opinion. That stuff he said about the actor who played Truman Capote was really uncalled for. Jared has talked about having mental illness so if that is the cause then I hope he gets help. His looks have changed so much since he was a kid! I don't think he is aging very well, he should cut that hair.

I still prefer Katie's Ruby to Genieve's.

I agree r544 ... wait . .. i'm thinking of meg. I liked the old meg

R545 I enjoyed both Megs but i preferred Rachel's. It sucks that the fandom was so gross to her when she was suffering from a side effect of her medication.

[quote] It sucks that the fandom was so gross to her when she was suffering from a side effect of her medication.

This is exactly why fans have such a bad rap. What kind of people know this sort of minutiae about a flash-in-the-pan minor character on a CW show??? I can understand knowing that Misha worked in the Clinton White House or Jensen is probably a conservative but this???

[Quote] This is exactly why fans have such a bad rap. What kind of people know this sort of minutiae about a flash-in-the-pan minor character on a CW show??

Gee i wonder.......

Weird, I just found out that Rachel Miner, aka Meg has MS. I really liked her Meg.

No sense at all, R548. Your post makes no sense. There's nothing attached, no explanation, only a photo.

Supernatural stars wrap filming on season 13

LOL, R533.

How else’s can you explain the sad people that attend convention after convention?

There’s only so many questions you can ask about pranks, storylines, favorite this or that, how you want the show to end, etc.

People go to see the lead actors be sweet and coy and interact in very cute ways and finish each other’s sentences. And touch in barely perceptible ways.

I totally agree 543. I do not care for Jared. I don't care for Jensen either.

Does Jared ever cut his hair?

Reality is there is a small percentage of nutjob fans and a small percentage of deranged haters in the SPN world

Most of the small bunch of haters seems to be here, though.

Can the Jensen haters please post the links and pics of Jensen at all those Republican Rallies and conventions, Thanks.

Also can you post the links and pics of Jensen at all those anti gay rallies that I assume he attends.

I look forward to hours and hours of reading them.

[quote]How else’s can you explain the sad people that attend convention after convention?

I, personally, don't get it. But I'm a live and let live kind of guy. Do what makes you happy. But why single out Supernatural fans? Those Trekkies will cut a bitch.

Man, just SHUT UP, R556,/r557/R558. Dude you are seriously bizarre. You're singlehandedly responsible for just about every single Pro Jensen post on this thread!

Who said anything about rallies or republican conventions?

Fans like you are flat out scary.

The haters like R559 always sound kind of violent.

They must have issues.

Supernatural threads and Jensen Ackles threads always have lots of wierdos on them R559. You just gotta tune them out. You can try blocking them but they usually post as different people from different browsers so that never works for me. I love the show but the fans are something else especially Jensen fans.

It doesn't pay to know too much about any entertainers or to watch many interviews with them. They will always disappoint you because they turn out to be human and flawed (best case) or downright awful (worst case). It's best just to enjoy their work (or not) and move along. Entertainment businesses are filthy dirty and corrupt, much like politics.

Ratings from this week's episode are mildly better than last week's but not by much. I hope they end it after season 14,, but they may want to try to make it to 15, since it sounds better than 14. The last 2 episodes have left much to be desired.

R559 I think alot the fans that took up for Jensen got their wings clipped when it came out that he was buds with the duck dynasty people, and that they had a food truck on his brewery. That's made them get even crazier, if that's possible.

I think the last two episodes have been pretty good.

They're finally getting around to the big arc of the season. They need to go back to the alternate world and get Mary and Jack.

I sent Jensen a birthday card for his 40th and got a reply!

It said thank you for the kind wishes and I got a voucher for his brewery with a 25% discount if I ever go there!!

So happy.

R175 wins the thread!!!

R565 I condole you.

[quote]I think the last two episodes have been pretty good.

I guess it's encouraging that you think so because I thought they were really bad. The one with Dean and Catch in the alternate universe was awful. I love Rowena but even she couldn't save this week's episode for me. Jared must have been sick because he looked feverish and sweaty all through it. I couldn't stand the cringey Dean humor with "Ball Handler" and "Ashton's second best movie." Jensen Ackles isn't a good enough actor to pull that kind of thing off and his delivery and facial expressions in scenes like that are always terrible. I'm not in the United States so I have to stream the episodes and just watched it. I loved Supe years ago when Kurt Fuller was on it playing Zachariah. Now it's just bullshit scripts and Scooby Doo.

So painful for you that your religiously watch every latest episode to see how much you hate it.

[quote]Ratings from this week's episode are mildly better than last week's but not by much.

No they weren't. They were down which is surprising because Rowena got spn into the Neilson's Social 5. At 1.38 with a .05/2 I believe it's a record low for this season.

damn i haven't thought about this show in forever! can't believe it's still on. i quit watching when sam was drinking demon blood. holy shit i was totally obsessed with jensen ackles!! i thought he was the best looking guy i'd ever seen. i googled him just now and he still looks ok. he was supposed to be a religious wing nut and that took the shine off him for me. i really can't believe this is still on! i'm going to watch a recent one on netflix or hulu.

R550 Specsavers. Visit one.

R572 LOL Matt looks good.

Damn 1.38 is embarrassing. I bet next year is it for the Winchesters. I love the delusional fans who think that the J's are going to start making big budget films after spn. Not happening.

SPN is a world wide phenomenon. Posting rating figures for the U.S. is immaterial.

20 seasons here we come!

They also make money from syndication and DVD sales (do they still sell DVDs?). It's much bigger than immediate ratings.

jensenacklesIn an effort to join the #portrait party here is a small preview to season14. Its gonna be a good one!!! #thatsawrap

‘Supernatural’ Episode 13.20 Photos: Can Sam and Dean Help Gabriel Get Revenge?

Coming up to 600 posts soon and Part 2 around the corner!

Supernatural remains on the air because it continues to make money for Warner Brothers.

The show is not expensive to produce. Unlike other CW shows, it doesn't have a last cast. It has only 3 series regulars and Mischa doesn't appear in every episode. They don't use a lot of popular music. When you look at ratings, you need to also look at live +3 and live +7 ratings to get a more accurate picture along with streaming. You also have to look at DVD sales, syndication, outside streaming deals and a host of other things that contribute to the show's piggy bank.

But the thing that keeps this show on the air is that they can plug it anywhere on their schedule and it works. They even moved it to Friday at one point and it worked. And despite the many posts on this thread. Most people who watch it, understand that it's a fun little brain candy show that you can just sit and enjoy. They aren't going to conventions, they don't care about the politics of the cast. They just watch and enjoy.

You summed it up nicely, R581.

I'm a fan of the show, and that's exactly how I feel about it.

I don't take it too seriously. It's just fun to watch.

Yeah r582, but Jensen's a homophobe and a REPUKE!!!!

this thread has to be mostly straight women. no self respecting gay dude would watch this shit.

I'm a gay man, R584, and I watch it but I've watched it for years. I was 26 when it started and I'm about to turn 39 next month. There's something about this show that attracts odd people who become almost super fans. You can't criticize any aspect of the show or they lose it. You can tell it's the same person on this thread posting over and over, talking to themselves. It's really weird but a lot of Dean's fans are like that.

This season has been hit or miss for me. Some episodes were good but others were really bad. I thought this week's was better than last week's. The Scooby one was pretty good. I'm curious to see what happens with Rowena. Jack hasn't really interested me this season and I thought he would. I don't think his character arc has been done very well. Anytime Lucifer makes an appearance it's a good time. Gabriel was a let down for me because he seemed just thrown in there gratuitously. Jensen is supposed to have a different character next year and that might be cool. He's a lightening rod for many fans because it's pretty obvious, at lest to me, that he's a conservative Rrepublican. I don't care for that at all and find it sad and disappointing, but it is what it is. I still like watching the show. Would I go to his movies, no. Would I spend $ at his brewery, no. But it doesn't kill the show for me. It's a low budget show nobody watches but I have grown up with it and will watch til the end!

My girlfriend watches this chowderheaded shit. I honest to god think she's obsessed. We're both Italian and went to Italy several years ago on vacation. While we were in Rome she found out that there was some dumb convention there for this show and we ended up going to it and spending hundreds of dollars of our vacation money there. We were only in Rome 2 days and wasted 1 of them on that garbage! She's went to other conventions after that and she and her friends dressed up like the characters. She cooled off when Republican rumors started about Jensen. She would still watch it every week but no more conventions or online stuff. I think she went to 1 or 2 behind my back but when it came out that he had people from Duck Dynasty cooking for him at his beer company she promised no more. You would have thought her mom had died the way she carried on about him putting those Duck Dynasty people there. I love her but this show has been a real problem for us.

watching you talk to yourself on this thread is exhausting r583. i consider myself a spn fan but you're beyond weird. any retard can see that jensen is a republican and putting that guy from duck dynasty on his brewery hurt a lot of fans, me included. i guess that's his choise though. i will watch spn until the last episode but jensen can, like they say on dl, die in a fucking grease fire for all i care.

What if Trump dumps Pence and chooses Jensen as his new Veep? Then what???

I was disappointed by the last episode, 13.19, Funeralia. When Rowena because super powerful, there should have been a major story arc to use it. Instead there was a super wimpy single episode that petered out in several ways. The writers really abused the character. I dld like the reaper watching the Winchesters and talking about Dean's porn habit. Dean/Jensen had some good reactions in this episode. The issues with the Heaven infrastructure were boring.

Your girlfriend should talk to someone, R586.

Uh, that makes no sense, R588.

R589 I disagree about Dean's reactions. I get really sick of the stupid attempts at humor with Dean's food, porn, movies, etc. He's too old for that now. That line he delivered outside about the Ashton Kitcher movie with the reaper with the red hair was embarrassing. I actually cringed for him. Jensen is not the best actor in the world but he's not the absolute worst. (Close but not quite.) He's better with anger/sadness.

Misha Collins is the only reason I watch anymore. I used to really be into Jared but all those damn Tweets, man. Much as I hate to say it he really sounds bad. I watched Jenen on DOOL so I knew he was waaaay too Jesusish for me, but Misah is just right.

YUM!

[Quote] I think she went to 1 or 2 behind my back

I'm sorry but that's funny. Why would you have to hide that you're attending a convention from you're partner? 🤔

To be honest, after rereading this thread it is the anti-Jensen/anti-show crowd that comes across as unhinged. My favorite are all the first hand accounts of relationships being destroyed over this show. And people getting into the fetal position and crying about Duck Dynasty's partnership with Jensen. And PS we're in on the secret, we know you watch the show and we know you only lash out at Jensen because you want him deep inside of you.

Jensen can keep his Republican peen to himself, thanks!

You're more reliable that an atomic clock, R592. You're the same whack job who posted that Holocaust shit. Are you tired of posting over and over? Some of us who like this show wanted to discuss it. Yeah, it's impossible to discuss it w/out some mention of the actors, Jared who's a dick and Jensen who's a fundie, and both of those things are valid points, but still. Just ignore it. No one on this thread has talked about crawling into a fetal position or anything else. You and people like you are EXACTLY why no one will admit to watching this show.

This fucking show sucks and so do the freaks that watch it. How anyone can stomach that CW shit is amazing.

It wasn't so bad until the 7th or 8th season then it got stupid. The epi where Sam and Dean actually meet Jensen and Jared was when I gave up. That's when Jensen started saying shit at cons too.

You supid queens argue about this shit night and day.

It's either than or Madonna vs. Janet, R597.

You notice the anti Jensen people here use violent and crude language in their tirades.

They are quite aggressive and I imagine they go around barking at anyone and everyone

They'd be the real downers at any social gathering. Bitching and slagging off people etc.

They seem to have deep anger issues to be affected by someone they don't even know.

I like this season more than Season 10-12