The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15)

Link to previous thread for reference.

I used to love 'The Edge of Treason"!

Oh wait....

Sorry.

This whole Mueller investigation is indeed the legal equivalent of edging. When are we allowed to cum?!

Adam Schiff has released a list of Russia probe subpoenas that Intel Dems have sought but that have been blocked by Nunes and Committee Repubs:

—Don Jr.

—Cohen

—Sessions

—Lewandowski

—Bannon

—Hope Hicks

—Deutsche Bank

—Comey-Trump convo evidence

—Twitter

—Encrypted apps

—Comms records

[quote]This whole Mueller investigation is indeed the legal equivalent of edging. When are we allowed to cum?!

When Daddy says we can!

Good for Schiff, use public opinion to pressure those loathsome Republicans, even more evidence for Mueller to charge Nunes of conspiring to sabotage the Russian probe.

NY Times: Hope Hicks is resigning in coming weeks.

R7 Couldn't stand the heat after the grilling in Congress? Mueller may still get to her... she knows too much.

I'm personally wondering if Hicks has already flipped. She knows she's screwed because she's on record as saying she'd get rid of the Tweets. That's obstruction of justice. She's 29. She's fucked for life if she doesn't make a deal.

I think she's already made a deal and/or Dump's people are suspicious she already has and told her to resign because they don't want to worry that she's wearing a wire.

So is about the Donald Jr meeting and what Trump dictated as his son statement about the meeting being about adoption? Did she lie to Congress and/or Mueller about that? Did she destroy evidence?

Bingo, R10

Some on twitter saying Trump "berated" her this morning for the "little white lies" comment. Yelled at her - you couldn't be that stupid.

So she stewed on that for awhile and by mid-afternoon, she told him she's done.

While all this is going on, Ben Carson has spent 31 thousand dollars on dining ware for his office alone.

Apparently, he spends taxpayer money lavishly.

He fired the office decor staffer who objected to his excessive spending.

The Treasons that We Hear, the Treasons that We Fear...

R9. The wire is where no one will look or ask.

This woman has places; though the agent placing it there kept puking.

Why you think I sit on the sofa with feet underneath and knees spread? Audio reception, silly, not airing it out, but it does kill two birds with one shot.

I would not tolerate a boss that yelled at me twice, without a meaningful apology

I have a feeling that Mueller will do much better at this than Comey would have. How Ironic!

[quote] Manafort defense counsel requests mid-September trial date (and court grants it), but Mueller's team says they're ready to go right now:

Shut the fuck right up. You're going to trial without getting discovery or filing appropriate motions? Yea right. Ineffective assistance right there.

R17 and I bet he won't feel, "mildly nauseous" about any of it.

Maddow Ian pointing about that both Hope Hicks and Josh Raffel has resigned this week. And both were interviewed by Mueller about their involvement in Trump crafting a lie to explain Jr’s Trump Tower meeting with the Russians.

Is it a coincidence that Manfort's trial date falls on Constitution Day?

I wrote this a couple weeks back on a previous thread. When all is said and done, (in hopes that Mueller is able to convict a few of the mother-fuckers), Hope Hicks might come out of this the hero. The one who testified and turned states evidence. She might have already done so when Mueller interviewed her weeks ago, and was waiting for the opportunity to exit. This might have given it to her. Just conjecture.

As for casting, someone suggested Keri Russell. Good choice 20 years ago, but she's too old now. Major movie roles like this often go to Brits or Aussies. I see Margot Robbie as the chief contender, (with jet-black hair, of course).

[quote] I have a feeling that Mueller will do much better at this than Comey would have. How Ironic!

In many respects, Comey, as FBI Director, was limited as to what he could do. The FBI does not have prosecutorial authority. They investigate and recommend that criminal charges be brought. But ultimately it is up to one of the Justice Department's prosecutors to give the go-ahead. By appointing Mueller, Rosenstein knew precisely what he was doing and who he was getting: one of the nation's best prosecutors who also had served as FBI Director. A perfectly awful storm for Trump, but for the rest of us the one person who might be able to get us out of this dreadful, deplorable mess.

This is from R 557 of the last thread:

[quote] The Inspector General is a Civil Servant. My cousin was married to a guy who was a CPA, who rose through the Civil Service ranks, & was up for promotion and he was one of four candidates at the Department of Education. He didn't get it though he eventually did rise to the #2 spot as Deputy IG. The way it works is the Office of the Inspector General conducts audits of various programs in various federal agencies and departments. These audits are financial but also partially program audits. They write a report and it's all public information if some enterprising reporter wants to wade through to find it.

That is mostly accurate, but not the whole story. And, not entirely applicable to the Justice Department. Some IGs are civil servants. Others are not. The program audits are more important at other Departments and agencies where they undertake a lot of grant work that is ripe for fraud and corruption. DOJ has a much smaller grant program.

The current DOJ IG -- Mike Horowitz -- and the previous two -- Glenn Fine and Michael Bromwich -- have all been very hard-charging federal prosecutors. That is their background. They are not bean-counters. The office undertakes not just routine program audits but is called on to investigate charges of malfeasance. Bromwich and Fine were appointed by Clinton, and Horowitz was appointed by Obama. I know all three of these guys. They are straight-shooters and Horowitz will not hesitate to call out wrongdoing no matter who perpetrates it -- so no political favoritism. That said, the political inclinations of Horowitz and his predecessors are largely in line with the Presidents who appointed them.

OK. So Mueller interviews Hope in December. Then, this Porter thing blew up. She was dating him. She discovers he beats his women up. Photographs speak volumes. (Hope probably already noticed signs even if he never laid a hand on her.) Kind of one of those moments when you have an epiphany and certain things make sense.

So she breaks up with him, while at the same time trying to help defuse the situation because that's her job. She had to be a stressed out mess. So then, while this Porter crap is going on, the whole notion of security clearances explodes. Trump goes crazy and screams at her for not protecting his interests. Then he explodes at her again today? After she spent yesterday testifying before a Committee of Congress?

IMO I'd bet Hope had a Moment of Clarity. She realized her life had become dodging the FBI and serving the needs of a complete asshole piece of shit. A piece of shit who didn't even appreciate all her efforts. To all reports, Hope is respected, smart and professional. She is well liked and that's a fucking miracle.

So maybe her family a close friends told her to cut her losses and GTF out of there before she gets pulled under with all the other miscreants. After Trump yelled at her today she probably figured this is as good a time as any to give notice. He's a narcissist. He'll be fine.

But can you explain the boots, r24..........

R23, t your post is very helpful to understanding how DOJ works. Thanks. But one thing I'd like to add. is that the office of the IG at DOJ also very likely has financial auditing capacity. It's not only grant money, which is what my Cousin's husband did with the Dept. of Education, as you correctly pointed out, but it's also spending.

DOJ gets appropriations from Congress for various divisions, and programs and that money has to be accounted for. So financial audits are done at DOJ too. And while they may not make grants as often or in the amounts other agencies or departments do, they do make grants to state and local governments and to educational institutions regularly.

As f or your friends, Bromwich, Fne and Horowitz, I'd be interested to know what their background was. Did they get appointed from the private sector or were they already serving in govt. in some capacity. Because, as I understood it from my cousin, and I'm going back 25 years here, I was under the impression that the department submitted the names of two or three candidates and one was chosen. I just assumed the Cabinet secretary chose them , but it's possible there was input from the WH or some preference expressed. DOJ is way more sensitive than Edu. So I can understand the WH wanting to be involved.

No, R25. I cannot. They defy explanation.

R27 They are a physical manifestation of the words "I am the president's fuck puppet."

Oh....oh. Well.......I can see that now.

R25 She forgot to use kneepads, so those boots were hiding some scraped knees.

Date predictions for a Kushner indictment? It's plain as day that it's going to happen. March 12?

Beware the Ides of March, R31.

I think everyone is giving Hope too much credit.

What it comes down to is she obstructed justice. Mueller has her on that. She's 29. She had a choice. Make a deal or be fucked for life.

[quote] the IG at DOJ also very likely has financial auditing capacity.

True. I didn't mean to imply that they didn't. It is just that at some Departments and agencies the IG is an accountant who is well schooled in financial auditing. DOJ doesn't need that a much as they do elsewhere is what I was trying to explain.

The appointments for all the IGs during the Clinton administration came from the WH Office of Presidential Personnel. I assume that was the same for Bu$h. I believe it was that way for Obama. I can't recall where Bromwich was before he was appointed. Glenn Fine was in the Department and may have been in the IG's office at that point as Deputy IG. Horowitz was an Assistant U.S. Attorney from the Southern District of NY, then brought into the leadership of the Criminal Division about 1998. He may have stayed on during the Bu$h years, I don't recall.

At this point it would be difficult to be appointed the IG at DOJ and not be a lawyer. And, the greater likelihood is that you would have to have served as a federal prosecutor.

[quote]Yelled at her - you couldn't be that stupid.

[quote]So she stewed on that for awhile and by mid-afternoon, she told him she's done.

With the perspective of being away from that toxic WH she'll stew yet more - and recall more than 'little white lies.' Trump's treated people like shit his entire life - this might just be the pivot. To quote his contempt back at him, he really could be that stupid, and was.

Never mind the boots, which signify her as the court favorite at the time, she is wearing drag queen makeup. So much highlighter...

Nice reference to The Edge of Night, r2. My favorite soap of all time !

[quote]With the perspective of being away from that toxic WH she'll stew yet more - and recall more than 'little white lies.'

#WhiteLiesMatter!

Still waiting on Treason of the Bitch, 8 threads later. Give it up Ivanka!

I think she had an epiphany. She realized that she was smarter and more capable than the asshole she was working for, and he didn't appreciate her because he is completely totally self-absorbed. You're right. As she puts some distance between herself and these people and this world, she may decide to "remember" a lot more of what she heard and saw.

[quote]I think she had an epiphany.

I think the only epiphany she's had is that her legal bills are going to crush her and she needs to get a private-industry job that pays well above her White House salary.

[quote]I think she had an epiphany.

This is a woman who worked for an abusive boss for three years and dated (at least) two abusive men in a row. Self reflection is not her strength.

Wasn't there someone who was on AF1 the day of the DJT Jr email situation who resigned pretty much as soon as he got off the plane? I'd be afraid of that guy.

Yes, the spokesman for Trump’s legal team quit once Hicks said on a conference call that no one would ever see the emails (explaining the real reason behind the Trump Tower meeting) would never get out.

Obstruction of Justice.

Corrallo

[quote]Still waiting on Treason of the Bitch, 8 threads later. Give it up Ivanka!

Might be a good enough title for Don, Jr. and we won't have to wait that long!

I agree with the person above who worte that Hicks isn't doing any of this because she's smart or had any sort of realization. She had no choice. Mueller has her on obstruction of justice. She's not even 30 yet. Do you think she wants to spend the upcoming years in prison?

There's no way out for her. She admitted to hiding evidence. It's make a plea deal or your life is over.

For the person who mentioned Mark Corallo,

apparently he has been interviewed by Mueller within the last two weeks.

Do you think Hope has removed that uncomfortable wire yet?

There was a rumor earlier that Hope is TRANS.

^I can see Dump really loving chicks with dicks.

But - his emails! What about his emails? All those emails!

So claiming Don jr’s meeting with Russians spies was about Adoptions (when what he really met about was ofomising to lift the US ‘s Magnitsky Act sanctions against Putin in exchange for illegally gathered dirt on Hillary’s Campaign) was just a little “White Lie”?

“...was promising to ...”

Interesting, r48.

That article was published on 2/1 and said the spokesman was going to talk to Mueller "in the next two weeks".

It would fit the timeline of Hicks' resignation nicely.

The spokesman talks to Mueller, Mueller interviews Hicks and suddenly Hicks resigns? Yeah, nothing to see here. SMH

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, R56.

Hope doesn't look like the shit that hit the fan. Yet.

Senate Intelligence Leaders Say House G.O.P. Leaked a Senator’s Texts

The Senate Intelligence Committee has concluded that Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee were behind the leak of private text messages between the Senate panel’s top Democrat and a Russian-connected lawyer, according to two congressional officials briefed on the matter.

Senator Richard M. Burr of North Carolina, the committee’s Republican chairman, and Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat, were so perturbed by the leak that they demanded a rare meeting with Speaker Paul D. Ryan last month to inform him of their findings. They used the meeting with Mr. Ryan to raise broader concerns about the direction of the House Intelligence Committee under its chairman, Representative Devin Nunes of California, the officials said.

To the senators, who are overseeing what is effectively the last bipartisan investigation on Capitol Hill into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, the leak was a serious breach of protocol and a partisan attack by one intelligence committee against the other.

Fighting amongst themselves again over how much they'll continue to trust these traitors.

Devin Nunes is a compromised Russian asset.

In a statement, a spokesman for Mr. Nunes, Jack Langer, did not dispute that the committee had leaked the messages, but called the premise of this article “absurd.”

“The New York Times, a prominent purveyor of leaks, is highlighting anonymous sources leaking information that accuses Republicans of leaking information,” he said. “I’m not sure if this coverage could possibly get more absurd.”

I can not believe there are people who think Trump could win in 2020. I don't think he will last thru 2018.

I hope he doesn't stroke out. I want to see him locked up.

We need to focus our Karma. If all the people in the world who want Donald Trump OUT of the Whte House, forever, focus really really hard and STAY FOCUSED, he will be crushed under the weight of his own corruption and be nothing more than a grease spot on the highway of life.

Good one, r49. I find the online universe generally over-meme'ed (especially Twitter), but that one made me guffaw. It really does look like she's slightly perturbed at having been put on hold. I wonder what Mueller's hold music is.

Many, many pundits will be writing many, many books about this well into the future. How American democracy was undermined late in the second decade of the 21st century by a collection of greedy, soulless assholes beholden to America's nastiest foreign adversary. The worst chapter ever in the long-running Fleecing of America. It's sad that we somehow "need" these horrific down periods to wake everyone the fuck up. I wish everyone would simply stay informed and stay engaged. Elections have consequences.

I bet Hope is going to write a book about her experience with Trump with some snazzy title like "How Trump Lost Hope" or something like that.

Since all the drama with Hope Solo happened I imagine a title like "Hope (,) It's Treason" or "Now For A Solo Treason" would have been more fitting, but with this shitshow you can't predict them so fittingly.

me too, R39!

Damn it, I linked the wrong movie clip. I meant to add this from To Die For:

Something needs to come to light to put the Nunes behavior into perspective. Of course an innocent man with good intentioned would not act in the ways he has.

I hate to link to a Maggie Haberman tweet (I am not a big fan), but this one sounds especially bitchy. Frankly, it's beneath a Times reporter. Maggie, it's also clear people are going to question - not necessarily your reporting per se - but the sources from whom your reporting is originating. Their agenda is that "clearly" they must maintain that Trump's closest remaining non-familial confidante remaining in the West Wing is leaving on her own accord. Nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do with the investigation, nothing to do with her testimony, nothing to do with Mueller having her dead-to-rights on Obstruction. Yada, yada, yada. You report - your readers will draw their own conclusions.

I think Mags is dirty. Too much Trump apologism for too long.

Maggie is incredibly defensive. She does fine until somebody calls her out on something. Her reaction never contains any objectivity or self-reflection. Horrible flaw for big time reporter.

Mark Corallo is hot!!! And a lot smarter than the rest of them.

r74....why do you think hes talking.....he knows what happens to pretty people in prison....even the older ones.

What I love is the possibility that Mueller probably scared the piss out of Hope Hicks. In the scheme of things Hope helping write a statement for Jr. is not the most terrible crime in the world. Hope assuming "no one will know" about the e-mails referring to the meeting with the Russians is her own know-it-all stupidity. But it also tells me if she knew about the meeting, then Trump knew. The scurrying around on Air Force One to get a response written for Jr. involved Hope and Trump. He acted like he was just trying to help his son out after the fact. But he knew all along and broke his silence when they were all outed. So Hope is ripe to get flipped. Mueller is going to lean hard on her.

I no longer consider Haberman to be a journalist.

A little background on ...ahem...journalist Maggie Haberman

Good post, r76. The pace of the investigation seems to be picking up as Mueller gets closer to Trump. Trump is going to have a melt down soon.

Thanks r78. I'm only just finding this stuff out. And that tweet...

I've personally predicted Spring, 2019 as the general time frame when the Orange Asshole resigns. But JFC, he's had an absolutely abysmal last 10 days. Shit is happening so fast & furious now. At least a political disaster every two days. Not to mention the ratcheted-up Twitter rage as of late. I've always assumed the West Wing rats would circle the wagons as Mueller got closer. The opposite is happening. They're fleeing the sinking ship. The attrition of top advisors during an administration's first year (plus) is staggeringly unprecedented. But these are folks at THE core of the Trump circle: Bannon, Hicks, Kushner's security clearance castration. It's blatantly obvious Mueller will eventually indict Kushner and Jr. (hopefully sooner than later). I just wonder how much stamina Trump will be able to muster. Recent events have me wondering if Cadet Bones Spurs lasts the year.

R71 Maggie is an idiot and brings shame to journalism. When her reporting is just repeating this lying WH's PR, she actually expects people to swallow her bullshit. Then she turns around and say people don't believe in reporters as if she is one. People believe in real reporters, just not a fake one like her.

r78....enlightening article. I always knew MH was a Trump apologist, but I had no idea why. Thanks.

r78, you need to send that link to Rachel Maddow's show.

She needs to know about Dear Maggie's past if she doesn't already.

Rats leaving the ship

Hopefully, a sign of things to come

From R85's link:

"I've talked to several people in the last week trying to find a way out, but they can't get out because no one is really hiring people with Trump White House experience."

One can only hope that the stigma of working for this administration keeps its people out of influential positions for the rest of their lives.

[quote]they can't get out because no one is really hiring people with Trump White House experience.

No one is hiring the best America has to offer?

[quote]While all this is going on, Ben Carson has spent 31 thousand dollars on dining ware for his office alone.

I know it's old news by now, but the total cost of his dining room set is $165,000; $31,000 is just for the table per The Guardian. He claims he's going to cancel the order, but we'll see if he follows through.

DL fav Seth Abramson thinks our Dear Leader may have just opened himself up to additional legal jeopardy:

"In America, if you know an employee who you have the power to fire or punish is a witness in a pending criminal investigation—and you angrily berate them for giving truthful testimony in a mid-probe interview with the intent to change their future testimony—it's a CRIME. [...] What Trump was doing was berating a subordinate [Hope Hicks] who he knew was a witness in a pending criminal investigation (an investigation in which he is a target) for *telling the truth* about having had to lie for him on occasion. This is a textbook case of felony witness tampering."

My god, this shitfest is imploding.

McMaster might be next.

R89 unfortunately none of that is going to stick to him.

R92 is a concern troll who I already had on block.

BREAKING: NBC News has learned that Mueller is assembling a case for criminal charges against the Russians who carried out the hacking and leaking of private information as part of Putin's campaign to meddle in the election and help Trump's candidacy. #MTPDaily

If hes going after the actual hackers and leakers, not only would that include Russians (Goosifer2), (Cozybear), (fancybear)....but possibly also Roger Stone ? That would be a hysterical. Can you image the meltdowns ?

And who might those hackers be and who in America might know them? Closer and closer and closer and closer...

CNN Breaking: FBI investigating Ivanka international business connections!

I just watched Downfall, the excellent movie about the final days of Hitler in the bunker.

There’s a scene where Hitler is demanding that non-existent troops help repel Russian forces bombing Berlin. Everyone is afraid to tell him the troops are mostly dead. He starts screaming, terrifying the secretaries that can hear the screaming through the door.

In another scene, he blames everyone but himself, and says the German people deserve to suffer and die, because they gave him the mandate to act as he did and then didn’t defeat the enemy, so they have it coming.

Both of these scenes reminded me so much of Trump. And then there’s the scene where Eva Braun’s brother in law is found to have deserted and is holed up with his mistress. He is dragged out and executed by Hitler, who says he deserves to die, even when Eva Braun begs him to spare him, because the Russians are days away and it’s pointless. He has him executed anyway, for betraying him. Family loyalty means nothing to him.

And then I wondered, is Hitler reincarnated?

An Ivanka Trump Spa? Oh my sides!!

Fascinating, r97 (although certainly not a surprise). Here's the article. Look for Kelly to soon yank her temporary security clearance as well. Looks like this is shaping up to be a total house-cleaning by Kelly. Pretty sure he's wanted Javanka gone since the day he took the job.

[quote][R92] is a concern troll who I already had on block.

Then why on earth are you talking about him?

Is R92 that important to you?

It's interesting to me that the Special Counsel's office, henceforth relatively airtight dating all the way back to last May, is now leaking like a sieve. Story after story after story about exactly what they're targeting/looking at. I wonder if this is a strategy or simply some giddy prosecutor spilling.

[quote]I wonder if this is a strategy

Ya think?

theyre not leaking,....there are public ways to find out the things that have recently been reported......Muellers office is airtight.

R104 beat me to it, but the leaks appear to be coming from the people Mueller's team is interviewing/trying to interview.

Paul Ryan, himself, is enabling Nunes' obstructive behavior. There's no one that can overthrow their asses unless voters do it. But David Koch will give them so much damn money, it's near impossible.

Executive Branch is corrupt. Those running Congress are corrupted

They are investigating Ivanka for her Vancouver Trump Hotel! Ivanka - you in trouble girl!

R97 Downfall is an amazing movie and should be must viewing for most on here.

^^sorry, that should have been R98

I love the Downfall parody videos. I can’t even imagine what the Trump one is going to be like. Will they even have to change anything?

R105 " but the leaks appear to be coming from the people Mueller's team is interviewing/trying to interview."

When someone is subpoenaed before the grand jury, they can tell anybody they like. They're not held to secrecy. Maybe it's why we haven't heard so much about Steve Bannon's and Hope Hick's testimonies. They're incriminating and they want to bring as little attention to themselves as possible.

I imagine right now that Kelly is leaking like a sieve about Javanka's various problems.

Uh, no R93, I'm the OP. But nice try.

If they would have just released that info about Ivanka yesterday we could have had Treason of the Bitch!

I hope their investigating her plastic surgeons too!

r110, none of this is funny. In fact, it's tragic. Not everything has to be made into a joke.

This is not the first time people with obscene amounts of money have attempted to seize control of our political process. We know now who the players are and what they have done, and what kinds of tactics they use Just urge people to turn off the noise and vote for Democrats. If a Dog runs as a Democrat vote for them. Hell, a houseplant would give us better representation in Congress. But honestly. The best way to tell the Koch brothers and everyone else to go fuck themselves is to IGNORE them. Show them that all the money in the world doesn't matter.

Vote regrets r116? Tell us. I promise I will be supportive if you are honest. If not, I can only promise to be gentle. Hee hee

r118, fuck off. Voted straight Democratic. The sins of this administration are not on MY head.

Can you say the same?

Soon, the WH staff will be down to Kellyanne Conway, Stephen Miller, and Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Reported Kelly is ready to go back to the military if a job at his rank level opens up.

What a mess.

One of the Pundits commented that Dump only has three of his original staff with him. KAC, SM, and I'm assuming the third is Jared?

Those aren't pearls around Huckabee's neck, they're her family's gallstones.

R119, I can say I don't believe you.

More Russia and NRA

Russian State-Run Bank Financed Deal Involving Trump Hotel Partner

This might sound paranoid, but with Putin leaking two nuclear comments yesterday - almost certainly meant as a threat to “back off” of Trump - who is in charge of the so-called nuclear football? I can still see an attach on North Korea by Trump as a desperate last-resort distraction attempt to improve his position.

You're right to question it but I believe it's a bit more stupid and complicated than that. The three biggest loudmouths are Putin, Trump, and Kim Jong and they all lie.

Before those Warner texts were leaked to the press, remember how Assange told an account he thought was Sean Hannity he had new dirt on Warner?

And this one is great.....FBI agent Andrew McCabe *DID* leak to the press. But not to hurt trump. To hurt Hillary and Obama. It should be fun watching Republicans try to spin that one.

The wheels are coming off the bus at a spectacular rate this week.

Jesus, crooks all around

I have a bad feeling. If you consider the Russians are in league with the NRA financially backing them, and you consider that Putin is beating his chest about new Nuclear missiles, and McMasters, who only a week or two ago publicly state that we can no longer deny Russia attacked us and tampered with our elections, and now he is being forced out by Kelly & Mattis? McMasters is our VERY competent National Security Advisor. He took over from Flynn. He's been there a year. f he leaves, I'm going to believe there is some larger conspiracy afoot Anyone who thinks once Trump is gone things will get back to "normal" may be sadly mistaken. I'm very afraid this is the new normal. #RESIST!!!!!!!

Just now on Lawrence, David Frum said there is talk that Hope Hicks is trying to get a book deal on the basis of a diary she kept. Then Lawrence said if this is true, this diary will be exhibit no. 1 in Mueller's case. Who knows if this is true, but interesting that Frum said it.

Omarosa, your memoir is in danger gurl!

Kushner is caught in a trap of his own doing and I wouldn't be surprised if he flips on Trump.

Kushner can flip all he wants....hes still going to prison. He is one of the main players in this mess.

[quote]Kushner is caught in a trap of his own doing and I wouldn't be surprised if he flips on Trump.

He's going to have to do it before Ivanka flips on him.

[quote]Soon, the WH staff will be down to Kellyanne Conway, Stephen Miller, and Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

So few people left for Trump to shout at, as the shouting becomes ever more berserk.

Maybe he'll ultimately be led away while screaming at a hapless WH portrait.

I hope that portrait will either be the funky new one of Obama, or the Clintons, R135.

R131, it’s like Veep and Mike’s diary!!

[quote] So few people left for Trump to shout at, as the shouting becomes ever more berserk.

[quote] Maybe he'll ultimately be led away while screaming at a hapless WH portrait.

I bet the staff did the same people do to birds and put a mirror in his office and he shouts at his own reflection.

[quote] I hope that portrait will either be the funky new one of Obama

Sadly, not. That one is at the National Portrait Gallery. It isn't the portrait that will be installed in the White House.

[quote]I bet the staff did the same people do to birds and put a mirror in his office and he shouts at his own reflection.

Huge LOL. Specially if he'd been caught verbally abusing portraits, which were discreetly removed, and replaced by mirrors.

One does not have to hold a government job to be engaged in obstruction of justice. Sean Hannity needs to take note.

Mar-A-Lago, in DJT's mind, is his "safe space".

R142, it's also where Trump is most likely to discuss stuff he should not be discussing with other guests and "friends."His staff cannot leave him alone. He always needs a minder. on

More shadiness:

Billionaire investor and longtime Trump confidant Carl Icahn dumped $31.3 million of stock in a company heavily dependent on steel last week, just days before Trump announced plans to impose steep tariffs on steel imports.

In a little-noticed SEC filing submitted on February 22, 2018, Icahn disclosed that he systematically sold off nearly 1 million shares of Manitowoc Company Inc. Manitowoc is a “is a leading global manufacturer of cranes and lifting solutions” and, therefore, heavily dependent on steel to make its products.

Trump’s announcement rattled the markets, with steel-dependent stocks hardest hit. Manitowoc stock plunged, losing about 6 percent of its value. Reuters attributed the drop to the fact that Manitowoc is a “major consumer of steel.”

It’s shit like that r144, that really makes me hate rich people and the current government. And he’ll get away with it. How many others are in the know and benefitting from this crime family.

R145 Basically. it appears as insider trading. Martha Stewart got nailed for lying about doing such.

Trump has time to tweet and criticize comedian/actor Alec Baldwin on SNL, but won't ever utter anything critical of Vladimir Putin?

And this is all fine with Paul Ryan and his merry men?

Europeans are now talking about boycotting the importing of Wisconsin cheese (Ryan) and Kentucky Bourbon (McConnell) per Trump's trade war volley.

The government is being run by a bunch of spoiled children.

I know, r147. Was going to post something to that effect when I saw that headline on CNN this morning. There haven't been too many "good" weeks of this presidency (even in a bipartisan light). Most have been varying degrees of bad to godawful. The past 10 days have been among the worst with its multitude of shitstorms. And then Putin prattles on about his new nuke. And Cadet Bone Spurs says nothing, nada, zero, zilch. Not a peep. Reagan's bones are turning in his grave.

And yet the Orange Asshole finds time to tweet about Alec Baldwin. An actor. Doing an impersonation on a comedy sketch show. The incompetence of this corrupt cretin is stunning. I don't know whether to laugh, vomit, or scream for "Serenity now!" Maybe all three. Our president is a fucking child - and that's probably an insult to children.

(On a lighter note, Baldwin's return burn was absolutely delicious.)

Trump's administration said they did not have time to implement new sanctions on Russia that were imposed many months ago.

But he has time to start a trade war.

....

His "Alex" Baldwin tweet was posted 4:30 a.m.

I do find the nuke threat from Putin to be curiously timed. Do we really think it was a warning to the FBI to lay off Dump and make the government kowtow to him?

Let me add that I think Putin is full of shit and he does have something to get through our defenses then we already know about it and perhaps have one of our own.

Alec's 1st reply to Trump is pure gold.

"Agony though it may be, I'd like to hang in there for the impeachment hearings, the resignation speech, the farewell helicopter ride to Mara-A-Lago. You know. The Good Stuff. That we've all been waiting for."

Alec's second tweet:

"Looking forward to the Trump Presidential Library. A putting green. Recipes for chocolate cake. A live Twitter feed for visitors to post on. A little black book w the phone numbers of porn stars. You're in and out in five minutes. Just like..."

[quote]Agony though it may be, I'd like to hang in there...

Love that AB tells Trump he's enduring a gruelling ordeal, for the public good. Pro bono publico. Dark and lonely, but someone has to do it.

Trump is acting like he's getting ready to snap.

[quote]Trump is acting like he's getting ready to snap.

And this counts as abnormal behavior because...?

R157 I think he snapped many moons ago. He's been digging his own grave since the election. All the trouble he is mired in is of his own making. He's daring people to take him down... No rational person can be this self-destructive.

NBC is reporting:

[quote]According to two officials, Trump's decision to launch a potential trade war was born out of anger at other simmering issues and the result of a broken internal process that has failed to deliver him consensus views that represent the best advice of his team.

How much longer til he has another tantrum and starts a real war?

The only question to ask now is: Who's next?

R160 That's why I want him out of the White House as fast as they can roll him. Because he's unstable and capable of anything.

We don't need a president who acts out in anger. Calm deliberation is needed.

[quote]born out of anger at other simmering issues

And if course anger is the very best frame of mind with which to conduct national business. Mueller's methodical forensic approach is not only legally vital, but he knows well the maniac at the big desk, and how he's likely to react.

The quote at R160 is so redolent of dangerous dysfunction, few would be surprised at some sort of intervention. 'Simmering' is right. Trump now knows he's the boiling frog, and the floundering won't be pretty.

This is the article R160 is quoting from. It's worth reading -- it's disturbing even by Trump standards. The tariff announcement was made with absolutely no thought or consultation; it was just Trump mindlessly lashing out due to events he could not control. A source for the article described Trump as "unglued."

It's not a Trade War... It's a Trump Tantrum.

Trump might get rid of Javanka himself... or rather have Kelly do it.

Another gem from the NBC News piece: "By Thursday afternoon, the U.S. stock market had fallen and Trump, surrounded by his senior advisers in the Oval Office, was said to be furious."

What the hell did he expect? The West Wing has become a gang of primates throwing feces at the wall to see what sticks. NEC Director Gary Cohn is not pictured on r161's "attrition board," but I would expect him to be departing soon as a result of this latest idiotic clusterfuck.

He pulled the same shit with the transgender military ban. The military was as suprised about this as was the public.

It's all based on desperation to distract from something else , usually Mueller's investigation.

I'm genuinely surprised he hasn't tried to resign already thinking that would end the investigations.

Trump barks... and everyone is wondering what now? This is how he has behaved all his life... so of course that's how he "governs".

He screamed at those executives when they told him not to do it. It's what he does...Hicks leaves, Kelly screws Kushner (and should have) and finding out Ivanka is being investigated after being snubbed overseas. It's so much fun, but I'll pop the corn when the indictment for clownface comes down.

R170, He'll never do that. He's a coward who never admits to doing anything wrong. He'll be there until the bitter end and will take down as much of this country as he can before he does.

[quote]I'm genuinely surprised he hasn't tried to resign already

In his pitiful zero-sum-game pea-brain, that would make him 'a loser.' Plus, he needs to run everything by Putin, who's busy with his 'election.' Scheduling conflicts.

[quote]Kelly screws Kushner

Pics please.

Is it a lovers quarrel? You got me thinking, pics please troll. You're welcome.

And multiple bankruptcies don't make him a loser? I don't think he thinks rationally in any shape or form. He skews everything to what suits him and everything is twisted to how he's so smart and knows how to game the system. He might not ever resign but i would bet that he's thought about it thinking it would make it all stop... because he's a moron.

How would we know if he had a complete breakdown? The people around him wouldn't tell us. His behavior is always so bizarre, would be be able to tell?

Is he going to Mar-a- Lago today?

Kyle GriffinVerified account @kylegriffin1

Mueller is interested in a Dec. ‘16 meeting Kushner held with an ex-Qatari PM who’d been in talks with Kushner Cos. about investing in 666 5th Ave. Weeks after talks collapsed, the W.H. backed an economically punishing blockade against Qatar.

And here's the Intercept article mentioned in the above NBC story.

Is it just my wishful thinking, or has the potential for serious legal jeopardy for our Dear Leader and everyone around him ramped up this past week?

I really don't see how Kushner escapes and indictment at this point.

Stop, R182, you're making me hard.

I guess FauxNews is still blabbering about Hillary?

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1

Number of times Jared Kushner’s name was mentioned in prime-time cable news programming Mon.-Wed.:

MSNBC 213

CNN 154

Fox News 10

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Ten meeelyan??? Callink Me! I am vetty famous for throwing my office doors wide open. I am EInstein Letty too

[quote]Hicks could easily get a $10 million advance

Trumpy will be so pleased about her continued viability, and only wish for her the very best of good fortune.

Sounds like Hope Hicks better take that $10 million advance... she's gonna need it for the legal fees.

R188 doesn't she have her pussy for that?

The stench of corruption from this administration -- and the hypocrisy of the Rethuglicans in Congress -- is overwhelming.

Obama wore a tan suit to a press briefing, saluted a service member with a coffee cup in his hand, and put his feet up on the Resolute desk in the Oval Office all of which caused the Repukes to make him out to be a monster.

Trump and his band of felons have lied, evaded, cheated, dissembled, and broken laws left and right. And, . . . complete silence. No investigations. No hearings. Nothing. Had Hillary so much as sneezed they would have hauled everyone in her administration up to the Hill and grilled them for hours.

Despicable, the whole damn lot of Rethugs. May they all get booted out of office.

You're forgetting, R190, that hypocrisy is a core value of the GOP.

Yes, r190, but Obama was black.

Yeah, r190, even mainstream Republicans admit that Hillary would have been impeached a long time ago under the same circumstances. The hypocrisy on so many levels (and with so many issues) is infuriating.

The Republican big donors need to tell their Congressional lackeys to fix this. Enough is enough. The occupant in the Oval Office is erratic and mentally unstable. DJT is not competent for the job.

As long as Congress tolerates this, matters only get worse.

Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Republicans and Democrats in Congress, need to put party politics aside, and deal with a mental health issue that'she impacting nationally and internationally. History will be very unkind about their failure to act.

Can you believe it? The President of the United States has said and done absoutely nothing about an enemy of ours making a not so veiled threat. Putin is threatening us with nuclear missiles. How the fuck is this different than the threat posed by North Korea? And all we hear is Crickets. This is beyond treason. And you know what? The Republican Party looks REAL BAD right now. They are completely impotent. By design.

Donny: “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters.”

Vladdy: “I could threaten the US with nuclear annihilation, and nobody’d bat an eye.”

[quote] The Republican big donors need to tell their Congressional lackeys to fix this.

Not going to happen. The Rethuglicans are incapable of doing the right thing. Plus they are rudderless, amoral cowards who care about nothing but themselves. Many of them, like Nunnes, Ryan, and McConnell, are traitors who are likely complicit in the Russian interference. So they don't want to rock the boat. In general, they are frozen in place and all they can do is complain about Obama and Hillary even though the election was 18 months ago and Obama hasn't been president for over a year. Oh, and they are good at raiding the Treasury on behalf of the wealthy at the expense of the rest of us.

Notice please that during the course of the past 14 months all of those Repukes who were going to show some independence and stand up to Donald Trump did just the opposite. Every one of them caved and fell in line behind him because they thought it was better to do that than buck him and face the wrath of his much touted supporters. So, they have apparently decided to go down with the ship.

With any luck we will amble along until November without the world blowing up, when we can hope that the American public begins to save itself from this utter and complete disaster. And, yes, once again the Dems will have to come in and clean up a mess caused by the the Repubs. And fixing that mess will have to include removing Trump from office -- assuming there is a credible basis for doing so (and that's not much of a stretch because all signs point to the fact that there is plenty of malfeasance).

But getting the Rethuglicans to do that in the next nine months is akin to waiting at the station for a train that will never come.

Will Vladdy-Waddy's big weapon penetrate Mar-A-Lago's sugar walls?

It was totally him.

+Ken Dilanian is reporting that Mueller is preparing indictments related to the DNC hacking and the hacking of John Podesta's e-mail account. This broke earlier tonight.

Well, it's not over til the fat lady sings. So, when will Mueller subpoena SHS?

Speaking of SHS... I've noticed that a lot of the news outlets have recently dropped the Huckabee and just call her Sarah Sanders. What gives?

[quote]Will Vladdy-Waddy's big weapon penetrate Mar-A-Lago's sugar walls?

Vlad is obviously mind fucking Shitler with the nukes over Florida imagery. He's no doubt aware how unstable Trumpy is becoming.

“. . . you can bait with a Tweet. . ,”

So Putin is taunting the USA by flaunting an unstoppable nuclear missile - knowing that he has Trump by the tiny balls, who won't therefore raise a squeak of concern.

This would not appear to be a good look for any Commander-In-Chief - especially one with an ambitious love of big military parades. When soundings are taken for 'approval ratings', it's astonishing that anyone anywhere registers 'approval.' Other than those who have done well by Russian support. There's literally nothing to approve.

I hope those DNC hacking indictments include one for Assamge.

I hope the hacking indictments include some Trump people. Because that would be IT! That would connect the dots for everyone to see, and then it would only require one more set of indictments. HUGE indictments.

Is Mar-A-Lago where Vlad sends his courier?

In another administration, the U.S. could be sanctioning Ecuador for giving refuge to Assange In their embassy in the UK.

Val sends his courier anywhere he needs to go. Remember when Maddow was talking about how, during the campaign, the courier's plane was seen parked at some backwater airport in North or South Carolina meet Trump?

If Putin made that missile boast with a President other than Trump, he would have gotten harsh blowback.

Trump and Tillerson refuse to implement the sanctions the Senate all voted for with the exception of Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders. Trump, resentfully, signed the bill, then dismissed it.

Because Vladimir will crush Trumpee’s “empire” like a blown egg if he so much as lifts a finger (or even says an unkind word) against Putin.

Have you guys read this compelling article that ties the Kushner/Qatar scandal to the Steele Dossier?

Pretty fucking shocking.

“So: A Qatari fund acquires major assets from Russia. Kushner’s business seeks money directly from Qatar. The nation, though, does not deliver to Kushner. The U.S. changes its political posture against Qatar at Kushner’s urging, with the alarming possibility that the seemingly manufactured conflict could have escalated into war. (Fortunately, it did not.) Several months later, the Qatar-backed Apollo Group delivers $184 million to Kushner.

All of this should be considered an incredible scandal in its own right, worthy of serious congressional inquiry. Once you factor in, however, the portions of this that are consistent with some of the allegations in the Steele dossier, the stories potentially become even more explosive.”

Excellent piece, R215!!!!! Kushner, Flynn, Trump, et al, in it up to their necks.

He is a dead man walking

A suicide now on the front lawn of the White House.

Well long term here's the problem. Jared is exposed. Yes he might go to jail for a few months. Maybe even a couple of years. But he'l come out of jail, and then what? Go back to the family business? He has torn his ass with the bankers and financial people in all these foreign countries. They don't mind dealing with shady people like Jared, but they do mind a lot of publicity and a lot of scrutiny. So Jared will see a lot of doors closed to him that would have been open if he had not gone in to "government service." As I said, long term that is a problem. Because if you're in real estate, if you're a developer, and you can't get financing, you are fucked.

Shouldn't these con-artists be salesmen at Dicklicks Used Cars lot in Queens, rather than run the federal gov't? Given Bone Spurs talents, perhaps he, instead, can be the dispatcher for a repo business.

[quote] So Jared will see a lot of doors closed to him that would have been open if he had not gone in to "government service."

True. And, when this is all over, it will likely be said about a lot of them. Many of these felons might have gotten away with their crimes had they not entered "government service" where -- especially at the highest levels -- your life and your dealings can be put under a microscope. Maybe Manafort and Gates would have gotten snared eventually, but who knows. However, right now the reason they are facing prison time is because of the special counsel who was hired to investigate Russian election meddling.

Remember the Jared was Trumps "data guru"........hes very connected to Russia and will likely spend many years in prison. With any luck, they will use asset forfeiture and clean them all out so even if they avoid serious prison time, they will be forced to live drastically different lives.....that will kill them...especially the Trump family.

I wonder what Trumps sister (the federal judge) thinks of all this....and if Trump thinks she could be an ace in the hole for him to keep him out of prison.

[quote] and if Trump thinks she could be an ace in the hole for him to keep him out of prison.

If he thinks that he sadly mistaken and an idiot. There is absolutely nothing she can do to keep him out of trouble with the law or out of prison. And, even if there were something she could do, she is prohibited by federal ethics laws from having anything to do with a case involving her brother.

R 215 Who- or better Which one first ??

I wonder how Jared and Ivanka met and became romantic.

One assumes in the recovery room at the plastic surgery clinic.

So will Ivanka stay married to him if he gets more than a couple years prison time?

Yogi and Boo Boo

Of course she will, R225. The Trumps never admit what losers they are. She'll divorce him when daddy is out of office and most of this shitty fucking administration is forgotten.

226 here. Oh no. Wrong thread obviously. Meant for Household Life in the 60's thread.

R226, oddly enough it works. Carry on.

I doubt they’ve ever been romantic.

Werent they introduced through Wendi Dang ?

Can't you just picture Wendy using a strap on with Jared?

Wendi being a friend of Putin (among others). Not too many degrees of separation among this galere of monsters.

So basically, Trump is down to listening to Stephen Miller to make policy decisions with some input from Kellyanne?

[quote]So will Ivanka stay married to him if he gets more than a couple years prison time?

Doubtful. Grifter wedding vows aren’t “for better or for worse,” they’re “as long as there’s profit in it.” Unless Jarod finds a way to keep the loot, Ivanka will peddle herself to a different con man who can supply the money.

Stephen Miller and Kellanne Conway? Dear God. The Z Team.

Off topic just a bit, but Fox News is bashing 'Will and Grace' about a joke in an episode about Lindsey Graham and John McCain having "sexual tension" between them.

Good grief, even Senate Republicans, off the record, have joked about it for 20 years.

As to Lindsey, one has not seen one word from the hawkish Senator about Putin's recent, aggressive talk about his missles. Yet, Lindsey is suggesting a pre-emptive attack on North Korea could be the right choice.

Lindsey follows the Trump line as does near all the rest of the Republicans in the Senate and Congress.

What is with these people showing so much deference to Putin?

Lindsey was all hateful towards Trump until the mail from Moscow came.

[quote]So will Ivanka stay married to him if he gets more than a couple years prison time?

She sure as hell won't divorce him before the court case. Spouses are exempt to testify against each other. They both have a lot of criminal secrets.

[quote]True. And, when this is all over, it will likely be said about a lot of them.

Some journalists tweeted this week that Trump staffers seeking to leave the WH are not getting the salary offers they expected from private industry. So it's not just the felons whose careers are in jeopardy, it's also the Sean Spicer-variety pariahs.

You hitched your wagon to the fucking hearse, fools.

A summary of recent events from Jennifer Rubin in the Opinion section of the Washington Post.

[quote] This is not so much as an administration as a weird fusion of the court of Louis XIV and the Mafia, all built around a cult of personality that lacks any self-restraint or awareness.

[quote] Aides tell the press this is a new level of chaos. Don’t worry — it’ll get worse. It always does.

Trump is so incredibly ill-suited for this job. Can't wait until he's gone.

I hate it when Omarosa is right. It is not ok, it will not be ok, and this will only get worse. What happened to checks and balances? This is someone who vowed to uphold the Constitution and has consistently looked for ways to undermine it and outright violate it. Not ONE WORD against what Russia did. Not one. Hillary would be gone by now if she'd done anything remotely like this clown. Obama would be gone. This is ridiculous and I will do everything I can to help voters register for November. If they will do nothing, it has to be us.

Miss Lindsey can't influence Trump because Tom Cotton and Stephen Miller keep getting in her way.

Bitches better watch it dissing Miss Lindsey. In due time. In due time.

Wasn't Cheeto raving mad about introducing term limits for Congress?

"In closed-door remarks, Trump praised China's President: "He's now president for life. President for life. And he's great. And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll give that a shot some day."

R245, maybe it's just the suggestive effect of him saying "give that a shot," but that's the first thing I've read that made me think Trump might be assassinated. He's just that awful.

Earlier up-thread I suggested that we might be so fortunate as to be able to amble along until November -- without any major catastrophe -- until the voters can begin to remedy the situation.

After reading this piece that the Washington Post put up late this afternoon, I think that we will be very lucky if he doesn't do something impulsive and very stupid before the year is out. Because the news isn't going to get better. And, because they have no clue how to govern, and are facing a badly divided Congress, there is nothing for him to do to change the narrative. He can't just make more speeches in airplane hangers to a handful of die-hard supporters and think everything is going to great.

They have no policy proposals or legislative changes because they are bereft of any popular solutions for real problems. All they are able to do is the keep the government barely functioning as they work to dismantle large parts of it. That won't really win you rave reviews.

In the Post's article, one of his friends suggests that Trump had "momentum" following the tax cuts and his State of the Union performance, and "they should keep that going." How incredibly simplistic and naive. News flash: they can't. The best they can hope for are a few days of respite between horrible news cycles. Plus, his "momentum" was minimal and just moved him slightly higher in his approval ratings -- but nothing to brag about.

I can't wait until they've been run out of office. The whole damn lot of them.

I have a feeling Mueller is going to speed things up. My concern is that Paul Ryan and the House ignores Mueller's findings. That would be the ultimate outrage. I don't ike reading that Trump thinnks "President for Life" is a good idea. That fucker and his allies may try some shit and it would be horrible.

I heard one of the Pundits say that Mueller wanted to get this going quickly so that Dump wasn't a factor in influencing the November elections. I missed where they got that info or how they came to that conclusion.

[quote]I have a feeling Mueller is going to speed things up. My concern is that Paul Ryan and the House ignores Mueller's findings.

I think Mueller is timing things so he will most likely be presenting his findings to a Democratic controlled congress. Manafort's trial starts in September, three weeks before election day. That's the first trial. The Dems will most likely take control of, at the very least, the House in January. That's when I expect more trials to be scheduled, especially those for more higher ups in the administration. I don't expect Mueller to present his findings to Congress until well after that. Honestly, I'm thinking Summer 2019 or early 2020.

I recall that "Obama is going to take away the elections and declare himself President for Life" was making the rounds of the Alex Jones types during Obama's presidency.

The utterance 4 hours ago (I am sure he has typed public things since the President 4 Life twat) has chilled me to my core.

[quote]I recall that "Obama is going to take away the elections and declare himself President for Life" was making the rounds of the Alex Jones types during Obama's presidency.

Don't forget the "Obama's taking away your guns!" fearmongering. And, as usual, it was all projection and it's a Republican piece of shit president who pushes for what they accused a Democratic President of.

The remarks in R245's link are of course insane, but demand some attempt at parsing.

If 'the system' is so 'rigged' - supposedly to Trump's disadvantage - why did Hillary lose? If Hillary (supposedly) lost, why is Trump so bitter? Why is he such a sore winner?

In calling attention to Bush/Iraq, he's of course saying - People think I'm bad, but I'm not as bad as that. Just look at what they did. But why as 'President' now keep harking back years to former irrelevant politicians, when you yourself hold power?

These are of course default compensations, distractions, after his his very bad week, and cluelessness about how to lead at all. The preposterous fantasy about permanent 'Presidency' is somehow to offset how close he knows Mueller is getting. A fantasy of limitless power, when current power is compromised by a serious investigation, and a foreign leader boasting of unstoppable missiles. It's all at once pathetic, and chilling.

r253, people like Trump push the "I'm a hero who does, or more likely would do, a great deal of great things while there are baddies out there trying to make me a loser and a victim!" narrative so people root for them.

Maybe Manafort decides he's not going to trial. Maybe he pleads out, refusesto cooperate on anything else, and goes to prison, and then Trump pardons him. Five minutes after he's pardoned he gets on a plane and heads for Eastern Europe to some place where they have no extradition treaty. While he's out of the country, after maybe a year passes he has an "accident." End of story.

Supposedly it was all a joke:

"US President Donald Trump joked about White House 'chaos' and poked fun at his aides and wife in a light-hearted speech at an annual dinner on Saturday. 'Nobody does self-deprecating humour better than I do,' he told politicians and journalists in Washington DC."

But we all know the Dear Leader doesn't have a sense of humor, so what are we meant to believe here?

[quote]'Nobody does self-deprecating humour better than I do,'

Nobody else has a self in more desperate need of deprecation.

r256, in fairness, the Gridiron Club Dinner is SUPPOSED to be humorous and self-depreciating. It just so happens Trump is very bad at those two things. The entire thing was probably written for him.

R258, that "joke" about being president-for-life wasn't very self-deprecating, was it?

He and Huckabee-Sanders pull this crap all the time. He makes some ridiculous, outlandish statement and then either he says, or she says on his behalf, "oh, just kidding, not serious."

Of course, at this point, no one except the hard-core deplorables believes anything either one of them says.

Jonathan V. Last @JVLast

Preview of next 48 hours:

1 He didn't say it.

2 It's off the record; doesn't count.

3 It's a joke.

4 But he has a point.

5 Tom Friedman said it too and that's worse b/c media.

6 Fake News: Never said *he* wanted to be POTUS for life.

7 It's trolling, 4D chess.

8 LOL liberal tears

[quote]After reading this piece that the Washington Post put up late this afternoon, I think that we will be very lucky if he doesn't do something impulsive and very stupid before the year is out.

His delusion is certainly on full display in the article:

[Trump] ... thinks the American people are finally starting to conclude that the Democrats, as opposed to his campaign, colluded with the Russians.

Yup, just like he believed Ivanka and Kushner were good choices as advisers. Everything this fuck does is a fucking mistake, against the Constitution, or an outrage against civility. I'm so fucking sick of him.

Yes, R262, I saw that and wondered exactly how divorced from reality is he? Of course, Fox News is probably peddling that nonsense and he is buying it all up -- which just speaks to how insane this all is.

LMAO as Trump ponders imposing tariffs on European brands of cars. How delicious is it that Trump going to fuck over Beemer and Benzo dealers, who are all probably major supporters of him.

So our Dear Leader wants to tax European cars... and tax foreign steel and aluminum, which will drive up the price of American-made cars, and... what...? Fuck over everyone?

Asserting you're the best at self-deprecation is like boasting about humility. It's Helen Keller tone-deaf, and tragic.

I realize dealing with Trump in any form is difficult, but some people on this thread really do need to get a sense of humor.

But, R268, you really can't tell with Trump. He says everything with that sleazy, washed-up Las Vegas comedian delivery of his, and nothing is ever funny. It's just petulant and aggressive.

oh, I see, the POTUS for life shit was at a "comedy" performance, but isn't the best comedy rooted in truth. Yes. Also, now I see why he had to leave Versaill- er I mean Mar-A-Lago; he had a gig.

Oh joy, DJT wants to be President for life. Wonder who is to follow in the dynasty? Jared & Ivanka as king & queen? Don Junior who may say "I love it"? And of course, all this would serve under the dictate of Vlad Putin, of which the President and team are already committed.

Yep, the U.S. has their own Mussolini wannabe. The sad part, his 33% base would cheer it, Republicans in Congress would embrace it or at least be complacent, and Judge Gorsuch and Thomas and their ilk may declare it constitutional.

I think the timeline for Mueller’s findings should be set way before late 2019 or 2020. I’m thinking this summer or September. Indictments by November.

Axios has reviewed a Grand Jury subpoena that Robert Mueller's team sent to a witness last month.

What Mueller is asking for:

Mueller is subpoenaing all communications — meaning emails, texts, handwritten notes, etc. — that this witness sent and received regarding the following people:

Carter Page Corey Lewandowski Donald J. Trump Hope Hicks Keith Schiller Michael Cohen Paul Manafort Rick Gates Roger Stone Steve Bannon

The subpoena asks for all communications from November 1, 2015, to the present. Notably, Trump announced his campaign for president five months earlier — on June 16, 2015.

Bottom line: In December, the president's lawyer Ty Cobb told me the White House would be free of the Mueller investigation "shortly after the first of the year absent some unforeseen delay." We know very little about what's keeping the investigators so busy, but the breadth of this subpoena means Mueller's team could easily stumble into goodies about Trump's inner circle given so many people are coughing up material. (Cobb didn't respond to a request for comment.)

Alec Baldwin: It's Tough To Impersonate The Greatest Presidential Impersonator Of All Time

It is quite interesting Kellyanne Conway escapes interview lists. Either Rebekah Mercer has her well protected OR she is the "wired" one. She's been around since she left the Ted Cruz campaign, and is a senior advisor to DJT. Thought she had some connection to Cambridge Analytica, but she is a clever operative, and knows what lines not to cross. Despite her pro-Trump yapping spin, she may be more about personal financial interests, as opposed to being an "at all costs" Trump loyalist. Really, whose going to examine her bosom for wires?

Kelly Ann 's husband is a lawyer and he represents clients with some kind of interests connected to Russians. I read about him months ago. I was under the impression Kelly Ann had a decent relationship with Pence and had tried to ally herself with him back in the early days of the Transition to WH Staff. But Kelly Ann is a leaker no doubt about it, and she has been low profile more bcz in the first 90 days of the administration the long knives were out for her, lots of internal warfare. The fact she survived the Reince Priebus Sean Spicer debacle is a miracle. She was never viewed as a Trump person, more as an GOP establishment type. I know there was no love lost between her and Ivanka when She endorsed Ivanka's clothing line on TV and Ivanka read her out for it.

What I resented about the Gridiron dinner coverage is this is an attempt to normalize Trump. There is nothing normal or funny about this President. Nothing. He is a monster.

R276, yesterday some commenter on Politico called her Kellyanne Cadaver.

[quote] Ivanka will peddle herself to a different con man who can supply the money.

i could be looking for a new one about then

Listen. If Jared could get his $2 Billion dollars from Putin if he put Ivanka in his bed, he'd do it in a heartbeat and so would she.

[quote]so would she.

Wha...?!? Are you calling Ivanka a whore? I have a hard time imagining Trump consorting with prostitutes.

R280 Perhaps Putin like them a bit younger. Sarah?

[quote] Bottom line: In December, the president's lawyer Ty Cobb told me the White House would be free of the Mueller investigation "shortly after the first of the year absent some unforeseen delay."

That was a bizarre claim by Ty Cobb. I think it was widely reported that he said that as a way to placate Trump. But, you have to wonder what Cobb's long-term plan was. It's March and clearly the investigation isn't "wrapping up." There are a lot more indictments, several trials, and few plea hearings to come. Maybe Cobb said it in a fit of desperation to shut up Cheetolini and is now hoping that Trump has just forgotten about it.

Given the depth, breadth, and scope of Mueller's investigation, this isn't going anywhere -- unless Trump decides to try and fire Mueller.

Just a guess, but I doubt the investigation is more than half-way through, if that.

Investigating matters such as money laundering takes time to garner many of the witnesses and follow all the paper trails. And new discoveries reveal more players that lead to more discoveries.

Vlad likes little boys.

Rex Tillersons kind old grandpa act might work on the deplorables, but Ive never trusted him....not onlly that presidential medal from Putin, but all the business deals he made with him...and some are pending sanctions being lifted. You cant tell me he dumped his stock with the possibilty of being partners in one of the richest oil reserves on the planet just within his grasp.

r24 I'll say it once and I'll say it again, Hope was never dating the Wife Beater. They staged a PR photo session where she was "caught" leaving his apartment by paparazi. Don't forget that as the Communication's Director she would have the paps and press phone numbers for such an "event". There relationship story came out right after Woolf's books/interview hinted that Hope may have a sexual relationship with Trump. I'm shock that DL, of all places, is falling for that PR disaster.

The Wife Beater was a perfect match as a someone close to Trump, personal assistant, that would have known what's up and willing play along. They probably fucked, but her pussy was on loan to Trump.

r277, gets it.

Normalizing this president and this presidency is like normalizing Hitler; it can't and shouldn't be done.

Since the latest info Mueller is seeking goes back to Nov. 2015, could the "witness" be DJT Jr.?

You are absolutely correct, R289, which is why I was thrilled that there were no cameras allowed in the Gridiron Dinner and hence no clips of him being "funny." Normalizing any of this is among the many of the most dangerous things about this freak-show.

"Gen. Kelly, get that county clerk, from somewhere in Kentucky, here ss soon as possible. With Hope going, and pee pee fun is not near enough, I want some of that furious fisting that clerk wrote about."

Don......

The New Yorker has a blockbuster article about Christopher Steele. It details every step he took to try to warn the US about Trump’s corrupt relationship with Russia.

Here’s one shocking reveal in the article.

“One subject that Steele is believed to have discussed with Mueller’s investigators is a memo that he wrote in late November, 2016, after his contract with Fusion had ended. This memo, which did not surface publicly with the others, is shorter than the rest, and is based on one source, described as “a senior Russian official.” The official said that he was merely relaying talk circulating in the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but what he’d heard was astonishing: people were saying that the Kremlin had intervened to block Trump’s initial choice for Secretary of State, Mitt Romney. (During Romney’s run for the White House in 2012, he was notably hawkish on Russia, calling it the single greatest threat to the U.S.) The memo said that the Kremlin, through unspecified channels, had asked Trump to appoint someone who would be prepared to lift Ukraine-related sanctions, and who would coöperate on security issues of interest to Russia, such as the conflict in Syria. If what the source heard was true, then a foreign power was exercising pivotal influence over U.S. foreign policy—and an incoming President.

As fantastical as the memo sounds, subsequent events could be said to support it. In a humiliating public spectacle, Trump dangled the post before Romney until early December, then rejected him. There are plenty of domestic political reasons that Trump may have turned against Romney. Trump loyalists, for instance, noted Romney’s public opposition to Trump during the campaign. Roger Stone, the longtime Trump aide, has suggested that Trump was vengefully tormenting Romney, and had never seriously considered him. (Romney declined to comment. The White House said that he was never a first choice for the role and declined to comment about any communications that the Trump team may have had with Russia on the subject.) In any case, on December 13, 2016, Trump gave Rex Tillerson, the C.E.O. of ExxonMobil, the job. The choice was a surprise to most, and a happy one in Moscow, because Tillerson’s business ties with the Kremlin were long-standing and warm. (In 2011, he brokered a historic partnership between ExxonMobil and Rosneft.) After the election, Congress imposed additional sanctions on Russia, in retaliation for its interference, but Trump and Tillerson have resisted enacting them.”

Not to mention, Trump had never met Tillerson before appointing him SOS.......hmmm

This entire thing still feels hopeless. I don't understand why the GOP needs Trump when Pence supports 100% of Trump's conservative policies, minus the Russian crap. Why keep him when you have a perfectly sound replacement?

Trump isn't going anywhere, even if we get the House there is no way Dems will get the Senate. But let's say we win every Senate seat in 2018, we still wont have the votes to impeach, so that asshole stays till 2020.

They only way Trump goes is if his cabinet removes him from office. Congress wont be able to do it, to many American's wont believe the evidence or simple wont care.

I had to watch this trailer for some hope against this Trump disaster.

R295 Winning 2018 mid-term is very important because the Dems will have the power to investigate Trump and protect Mueller. Even without impeachment, the added pressure on Trump will help get him out in 2020.

Showdown: Sam Nunberg, former Trump campaign aide, subpoenaed by Mueller but refuses to go.

Apparently Nunberg just had a total meltdown on MSNBC with Katy Tur.

Will he be arrested if he refused the subpoena? He has to be; the rule of law cannot break down.

R299, what happened?

Way to act guilty as fuck, Sam Nunberg!

It's too late to escape to Russia... so maybe he can jump off a building.

Kyle Griffin ‏ Verified account

@kylegriffin1 22m22 minutes ago More One of the final exchanges on MSNBC:

Katy Tur: "Do you think that they have something on the president?" Sam Nunberg: "I think they may. I think that he may have done something during the election."

A brief transcription of the Nunberg interview on Twitter.

Doesn't the moron know he can search his email box for specific people/email addresses? He sounds guilty as all hell.

He’s on CNN with Gloria Borgia right now, but I’m listening in the car and can’t detail the craziness right now.

^^Borger

So Nunberg basically decided to spend the afternoon smoking crack and doing TV interviews?

[quote]And there is nobody who hates him more than me.

What's the sources of the ill feeling.

He’s given an interview for Plain Jane Lois Lane at the NYT, too. Can’t bother posting a link, sorry.

So essentially he has time to do interviews, but not to testify... May he rot in jail.

"Whatever you do [bold]DO NOT LOOK IN THAT CABINET IN THE CORNER, ON THE TOP SHELF[/bold]."

What a fucking idiot.

Gloria Borger always looks to me like Colleen Zenk-Pinter’s older sister, that broad who played Barbara Stenbeck on one of my stories.

LOL Cohen had a hard time getting reimbursed by Trump for the Stormy hush money.

I wonder if Nunberg isn't test-driving the refusal to respond to a subpoena for the benefit of his former boss?

After all the revelations, I have a hard time seeing how Trump can mount a 2020 campaign with any reputable people as staff. He's already used up most of the treacherous American scumbags... he will end up with just bottom of the barrel deplorables and the Russian mob working for him.

John Heilemann speculates on Nicole Wallace's show that Sam Nunberg was closer to Roger Stone and may have not stopped communication with him after he was fired from the campaign. So he may have texts, emails, etc. to/from Roger Stone about Stone communicating with Wikileaks / Gussifer / the Russians, aka the collusion.

R317 I think Mueller already got something on Nunberg... Mueller's just setting a trap for him.

Nunberg may be a wild card with his hair on fire, but he also may be trying to create a diversion from something. Something is not quite right here

R319 Things haven't been quite right since Election Day when we entered the Twilight Zone.

Is Sam too cheap to get a lawyer? No lawyer would let their client run around like a chicken with its head cut off...

Man, with guys like Nunberg, Michael Cohen, and Carter Page these people are like characters out of a Jimmy Breslin story.

Nunberg IS a lawyer, licensed in NY state.

Asking Katy Tur on live TV if Mueller's going to arrest him.

So much drunk & crazy for a six-minute interview.

R323 Fake lawyer. LOL

I think Nunberg is terrified. Bet he's going to suicide..... with some help.

R317 Nunberg basically admitted that Stone was communicating with Wikileaks— he said that was why he didn’t want to testify, because he didn’t want Mueller to build that link. He won’t testify, but he will scream about it on television. That’s not crazy at all.

As someone on Twitter pointed out -it sounds like he's bucking for a contempt charge. He will be safe in jail. Or so he thinks.

He and that cross eyed stone are dead men walking. Along with manafort. Sam is just more aware of the danger. Stone thinks dump or hannity will protect him.

[quote]Nunberg may be a wild card with his hair on fire, but he also may be trying to create a diversion from something. Something is not quite right here

This kind of crazy-ass performance art is straight out of Roger Stone's playbook. Nunberg and Stone are likethis. There is some strategy behind Nunberg's appearances today, but damned if I can figure it out.

That interview transcript is the most talking-in-circles / repeat-everything-a-million-times / say-everything-while-saying-nothing bullshit I've ever seen. Nunberg has either had a mental or emotional breakdown, or he's in serious trouble and he knows it. Or both.

I can't wait to see where this goes.

Someone called in to one of the Progressive talk shows sand speculated that Nunberg wants to get arrested because he wants protection. They believed he was scared that someone (sorry can't remember who) that was as double agent working for Britain and Russia was just mysteriously poisoned over the weekend.

They played the clip of him talking to Tapper and asking Tapper if he thought he should cooperate or not. He sounded unhinged.

Another person believes that Nunberg, who had been vocal of his praise of how the investigation was being handled was going through his emails and realized he was going to get caught having lied to Mueller.

They also played a clip of him going on and on about Stone and it sounded so fucking bizarre how protective over Stone he was but at the same time he seemed to slip and implicate him (by saying he was not going to be used to testify against Stone and get him in trouble).

It makes no sense, his reasoning is just plain stupid. We all know the Stone was colluding with Wikileaks. Wasn't Stone pretty much up front about it?

Roger & Sam

That's another perplexing couple in the sordid Trump-Russia saga.

Here's "Numb-nuts" Nunberg calling Sarah Huckabee Sanders a Fat Slob....

This conspiracy is unraveling and all the players are back stabbing, pointing fingers, and telling on each other.

Coked out

Risque Emails

I think he lied in his interview with Mueller...or offered damning testimony against someone.....and thats why Mueller wants him in front of the Grand Jury.......and he knows hes fucked either way.

Trumps Presidency is a pinata of diarrhea. Smack it and a little more shit comes spraying out.

ew......

Unless the Special Prosecutor statute has special provisions anyone can challenge a subpoena. He can litigate it before a judge that it should be quashed (good luck with that) or limited in scope and/or that anything produced by the witness be submitted to chambers for an en camera review by the judge for relevance before it goes to the prosecutor.

Oddly, Sam Nunberg is an attorney.

This afternoon/evening was one of the most fucked up episodes I've seen on live tv ever! I think nunberg may be dead by the am- they'll make it look like an OD or that he jumped off a building.

Did roger stone tweet on this?

......

This has me thinking.. I swear wasn't there something not too long ago where someone with Russian ties "committed suicide" and was acting erratic the day before they did it... and it was believed or found that he was given something to make him behave that way and then they offed him?

Why don't these people assume that if Mueller is asking for these things he already has them?

....especially since the majority of the wh staff went through it months ago and discovered Mueller had all their emails that they thought had "disappeared".

They are caught in the self delusions that Mueller won't go there and Trump will save them.

According to Robert Costa of the Washington Post, Sam Numbnuts wasn't always quite as nutty as he is today. He was the gy who advised Trump to run on immigration and was very good at framing issues. He was a protege of Stone's and he was effective. And he seems to hate all the right people. Like he hates Michael Cohen, and that right there could mean some bad shit awaits him.

R347 Nunberg is what happens when one fine day, these crooks are forced to face reality.

He said something to Erin Burnett about taking his anti-depressants. He might literally be cray-cray.

Hookers and Hookers and Ivanka. Oh, I guess Hookers x3.

Don’t forget me!

It was only ever a matter of time before these people started eating each other alive.

Still waiting for the grand finale of this never-ending shitshow. It would be a reality show if it weren't so shitty.

Now Putin is projecting that Americans are interfering in his coronation.

We need a federal judge to step in and put a stop to Mueller's fishing expedition. The Justice Department under Sessions, like Sessions himself, is completely neutered.

Hehe, Seth Abramson just sent out a tweet asking if anybody is close to that poor nut to go and see him and take care of him because he's obviously not well.

Nunberg has now apparently backed down a bit and “might” cooperate with Mueller.

Shorter Nunberg: Holy fuck, the drugs just wore off

He dared Mueller to jail him.

He's an idiot. And he apparently doesn't know Bob Mueller, the former Marine, who would not have one iota of regret over throwing his sorry ass in jail.

#PeeToo

I seriously think he was drunk. I did like when he said Sarah should shut her mouth! That was awesome.

Well, he was drinking and he takes anti depressants so that probably accounts for the circus today. All these media outlets are making sympathetic noises about this deeply troubled guy, etc. and they could not stop talking to him and then talking about him. They loved the spectacle of his meltdown. The only show I cared about tonight was Maddow. As usual she was stellar. She had Jane Mayer on and they talked about the Steele article she wrote in the New Yorker. This is a "must read." Grab it if you can. And when you get a minute, go find Jane Mayer's book, Dark Money.

The role of Martha Mitchell will be played today by Sam Nunberg.

I know Jane Mayer is very respected but how credible is the SoS Mitt Romney/Russian Influence charge?

[quote]I know Jane Mayer is very respected but how credible is the SoS Mitt Romney/Russian Influence charge?

It's as credible as Steele's Russian source. So who knows? I find it quite believable.

I spoke to a friend in the UK this morning and they said 14 former Russian spies (and members of their families) have been killed or maimed in England this past year. 14. Putin is sending a message. I imagine it's going to be hard to prove anything via a Russian source for a while.

They actually asked Nunberg if he was drinking last night, lol. He denied it. They asked if he had taken anything. His response was, "just my anti-depressants. Is that ok?"

I find the Romney thing very credible and a lot of people have been sounding the alarm about Tillerson from the word go. He's big buddies with Putin, has no experience in foreign affairs (except making oil deals) and Trump didn't even know him. Hadn't met him. Then poof...suddenly Rex is Secretary of State and has been systematically destroying the department ever since. He's doing what Putin could only dream a SoS would do: severely weaken the US on the world stage.

This crew is ALL a pack of traitors. Every single goddamn last one of them.

Yes, I find the Romney, Tillerson, Putin version extremely credible. Treasonous pack of jackals. Every damn last one of them should be in jail.

I just don't understand why? Putin can't be trusted and the Russian economy is basically in recession. Why so invested in Russia??

SANCTIONS r370.....

Office of Special Counsel has reported Kellyanne Conway violated the Hatch Act on two occasions.

What else has Kellyanne done?

Surprise,surprise:

The Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) announced last week that it will now consider all permits for importing elephant trophies from African nations on a “case-by-case basis," breaking from President Trump's earlier promises to maintain an Obama-era ban on the practice.

Looks like Uday and Qusay can keep adding to their trophy rooms.

And rethuglicans and deplorables continue to support these traitors.

When this is all over, it should be legal to just kick a deplorable or Nazi when you're having a bad day.

You mean it's not?

Can people that slaughter exotic animals for their warped view of fun, then mount their heads or have them stuffed; can have any respect for humanity, the environment, plus show any disdain for cruelty? Uday and Qusay aka Don Jr. and Eric, are disgusting.

They go to these African hunting camps, kill basically trapped animals, and the hunters have armed protection from camp personnel if they are charged.

Those two need to be stripped naked and unarmed, given a minute head start in the wild, and have a tribe of headhunters go after them with spears. If the two survive two hours, they get to go free.

That would be must see TV, r376

[quote]Those two need to be stripped naked and unarmed,

The gays are always trying anything they can to get a glimpse of our massive cocks. Unbelievable!

All of this to lift Russian sanctions so they can do what? Enrich Rex Tillerson further or forgive Paul Manafort's debt? Sell out your own country for this?

Manafort was pretty desperate, as was Kushner, and both have had no problem behaving in an unethical manner in the past. There is a certain sociopathic mindset that far too many in the Trump sphere exhibit, that just about anything is fair game.

Look. Carter Page & Mike Flynn getting busted were massive reveals. This is al about Gas & Oil and other natural resources and who controls them. Russian Oligarchs are getting massively rich and Flynn was hooking up deals while he was sitting on the podium at the fucking Inaugural swearing in ceremony. As far as Trump was concerned he got a massive ego boost by being President, and he saw huge opportunities to achieve great wealth for himself and his family while he occupied the Oval. He was making deals with the Kochs, with Russians, with anyone who he could get something from. Putin is his idol because in addition to everything else, Putin is reputed to be one of the wealthiest, if not the wealthiest man in the world. And he did it by ignoring the law, and murdering his opponents. Absolute power. All this Alt Right ideological bullshit s for the Peons. The Amateurs. They use that philosophical shit to distract the masses while they rip us off.

It’s actually embarrassing how fucking stupid so many deplorables (I will not call them Americans, they are traitors.) are.

Great post R381, thanks.

Yes. And Putin is a fearful man as well. He knows he hss to maintain power his whole life long because turning power over to a succesor would reveal his pillaging of the Russian state. He has billions deposited all over the world in his and others names, but he'll never have an idyllic retirement to enjoy them.

It would be a dreaded and sickening task, but wonder if Mueller's team will be interviewing Kelly Anne? Or is she the inside informant? She was known for leaking beforehand.

I think they’re reluctant to interview KellyAnne for fear that she’d do the whole Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct leg-crossing bit.

Gary Cohn resigning? Oh dear.

He paid off his rich friends with that Tax Cut scam, his job is done.

Did Mr. Koch approve?

[quote]It would be a dreaded and sickening task, but wonder if Mueller's team will be interviewing Kelly Anne? Or is she the inside informant? She was known for leaking beforehand.

I would assume at this point that if Mueller hasn't interviewed any of the likely suspects, they will be defendants or have already turned states evidence

Cohn was really pissed off about the Tariff bullshit. What no one seems to get is that yes it's a terrible move and very bad for the economy. But it plays well to Trump's base and they love it. And right now that's all he cares about. So Trump says fuck the Kochs fuck Gary Cohn, fuck Paul Ryan, and he's not backing off from it. As someone pointed out, Trump has been talking about tariffs and protectionism since early 2016 campaign.

He’s been talking about tariffs since the freaking 90s, at least. I’m shocked it’s taken him this long to get to it. But my question is whether or not he can do it without Congress's approval, cuz Trump might not care about the Koch brothers and their ilk, but you can bet the rest of the GOP does.

As for Gary Cohn, how laudable that Trump's stance on Charlottesville was ultimately acceptable to him, but this was a bridge too far.

Everyone is brushing past this piece of info that came out just before the Gary Cohen story broke........it appears someone on the house intelligence committee has been leaking info to Michael Cohen, Trumps personal lawyer.

I have a feeling more than one witness has refused to answer questions before the House because they know Devin is going straight to the White House with everything he hears.

Also, it's Erik Prince's time in the barrel.

Oh my, Devin has been a bad boy again. Do I get to spank him?

Give it to him, Rog.....

[quote]it appears someone on the house intelligence committee has been leaking info to Michael Cohen, Trumps personal lawyer.

Hmmmm. Now who could that possibly be?

[quote] ld assume at this point that if Mueller hasn't interviewed any of the likely suspects

Or those people who listened to their lawyers who tell them Hell No! you're not going to voluntarily be interviewed. At least without a letter if immunity.

No one is required to submit to a prosecution "interview". You do have to submit to a properly served subpoena though you may have a Fifth Amendment privilege to assert for some or all questions when you get before the GJ.

^^^

Correction: at least NOT without a letter of immunity or formal statutory immunity.

[quote] Counsel has reported Kellyanne Conway violated the Hatch Act on two occasions.

And deplorables on Twitter are screaming and stomping their feet calling Bob Mueller an inquisitor, a fascist and deep stater who is witch hunting Kellyanne Conway.

As if Mueller is in the Office of Special Counsel. DUH!

[quote] who is witch hunting Kellyanne Conway

But, she is, Blanche, she is.

It is a little confusing because the U.S. Office of Special Counsel is the entity charged with enforcing the Hatch Act. And, of course, Mueller is a special counsel.

Interesting development:

[quote] CNN just moved a story about George Nader. We heard about him last week. He’s a Lebanese-American businessman with some history in Washington. But he’s been sort of off the radar for more than a decade. He was involved in some way as an intermediary between Trump family members and people in the Persian Gulf. Now we hear this from CNN. He was met at Dulles airport by the FBI in January on his return from abroad. “Since then, he has been talking to Mueller’s investigators and providing information to the grand jury.”

And then:

[quote] The New York Times has its own, considerably more detailed version of this story. Here’s the more bracing version of the Dulles Airport encounter … Mr. Nader was first served with search warrants and a grand jury subpoena on Jan. 17, shortly after landing at Washington Dulles International Airport, according to two people familiar with the episode. He had intended to travel on to Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s Florida estate, to celebrate the president’s first year in office, but the F.B.I. had other plans, questioning him for more than two hours and seizing his electronics. Since then, Mr. Nader has been questioned numerous times about meetings in New York during the transition, the Seychelles meeting and meetings in the White House with two of Mr. Trump’s senior advisers, Jared Kushner and Stephen K. Bannon, who has since left the administration.

Kellyanne has been around the D.C. cocktail curcuit for a few decades. All the politicians and prime media figures know her socially. What was a bit unexpected, is that she took an advisor job with the Trump administration. She made good money with major campaigns via her business called the Polling Company.

Kellyanne may have been given added incentives to sign-on working in the WH. The indication is that the Mercers are behind the placement. She is allegedly quite tight with Rebekah Mercer. Cambridge Analytica has been a Mercer funded project.

The Mercers supposedly had cut-off Steve Bannon. But is that more show than substance, or a temporary disassociation due to the heat of the Mueller investgation?

Serious concern troll alert at r295

R401, Nader may have specific information about payments made to the Trump campaign by Russia and UAE. It's hard to believe that meeting in the Seychelles (involving, I believe, Nader, one of Putin's associates, and a representative of the Trump campaign) was about anything else except money.

R402, I think Bannon has outlived his usefulness.

The horror, r385! I hope the FBI is stocked up on gas masks.

The Office of the Special Counsel is not the same as the DOJ's Special Prosecutor. The Special Counsel works in the WH. He is part of the Presidential, Executive Branch operations. John Dean was Special Counsel to Nixon. Basically when someone violates Hatch, their supervisor has to deal with it.In this case Kelly Anne's supervisor is POTUS, or Kelly acting for POTUS. So they can do anything from a slap on the wrist to firing her.

I'm thrilled to know that the evil Erik Prince is on Mueller's radar. And it was inevitable for that corrupt, nasty thug lawyer, Michael Cohen to get busted. Bannon is the puzzle. I'd be interested in what he actually knows. The fact that Mueller's team knew about Nader ought to make Donnie Jr. and Jared pee on themselves. Any delusions they may have had about concealing things from Mueller's team, have to be dispelled by the depth and the detail and the thoroughness of the investigators. This is a many faceted huge mess of treason at so many levels, the only easy way to explain it, in a nutshell, just think of Trump as an old whore, who simply opened her legs to the entire Russian mob. the Chinese, the Arabs, and anyone else who acted interested.

Mueller May Have Documents On Trump Treason During The 2016 Campaign

“GOP strategist Mike Murphy passed along a rumor on The Last Word, “I’ll give you one salacious rumor because it’s Russia speculation night. I was walking around Beverly Hills, and I don’t want to be pulled in by Mueller on this, because I don’t know anything I was walking around international businessmen swore me to secrecy, you can say it on TV, a friend of mine got pulled in my Mueller asking about a mou, a memorandum of understanding that Trump had during the 2016 campaign, and Mueller has the document. That’s my contribution to the cloud of speculation. I believe this guy is credible, but have no way of knowing if it’s true.”

If Mueller has those kinds of documents on Trump, it’s over. “

What is a memorandum of understanding?

Roger stone was on MSNBC with chuck Todd yesterday and Stone claimed not to have been subpoenaed by the Mueller team -does this mean he is a target? Also he threw Nunberg under the bus as basically a crazed fan boi. Stone is just a nasty piece of work.

I watched some of the Stone interview. What a sleazebag. I loved Michelle Goldberg on the panel basically calling the whole gang bottom feeding scum. Tom Brokaw just sat there, clueless.

Brokaw has been clueless for a long time.

I can't believe Trump signed some Memo of Understanding with a foreign entity to grant them favors in exchange for fixing the election. Or would this be a MOU for some business arrangement? It's nuts. At this point in time there re probably all kinds of rumors swirling around and some will rise to the top of the cesspool. If this rumor has legs it will eventually get traction. But I think I'm going to rely on Rachel, Joy Reid, Lawrence O Donnell, Chris Hayes, and Ari Melber to vet them for me. I like the group of journalists they all work with too.

This is slightly off topic, but does anyone else here think that Steve Schmidt, the guy who ran McCain's campaign and has become the voice of reason on NBC , may e considering running for office? He's kicking the GOP in the ass every day and he is unabashedly Republican.

Yes. Tom Brokaw wouldn’t want them to snub him at the next bougie charity gala they’re at together!

[quote]What is a memorandum of understanding?

Probably about Trump Tower in Moscow. But it's been talked about before.

[quote] The Office of the Special Counsel is not the same as the DOJ's Special Prosecutor. The Special Counsel works in the WH. He is part of the Presidential, Executive Branch operations. John Dean was Special Counsel to Nixon.

Wow, R406, sorry, but no. Much, but not all, of what you wrote and I've quoted above is in error. You have confused and conflated several different government offices.

(1) True, the U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) is not the same as Bob Mueller's position -- so, that is accurate. But, Mueller is also called Special Counsel, not Special Prosecutor. His title is set out in the first line of Rosenstein's appointment letter right below the Order number.

(2) The OSC is not a part of the White House, but instead is an independent federal investigative and prosecutorial agency. And, yes, part of their job is to investigate violations of the Hatch Act.

(3) John Dean was NOT Nixon's "Special Counsel." He occupied the office of Counsel to the President or White House Counsel, whose job is to advise the President on all legal issues concerning the President and his Administration. Completely separate and entirely different from OSC.

All of that being said, Kellyanne Conjob is going to get no discipline at all from 45.

Todd & brokaw and the other old white guy had the nerve to mansplain her! Shameful!

Whoa! Thank you for clearing that up, R414. I stand corrected. In fact I'll take a moment here to say that I'm glad you cleared that up. We are dealing with a lot of information and a lot of terminology and it gets very confusing. I'm an old queen who followed Watergate, but I've probably forgotten and conflated and confused on a regular basis. LOL! It's good that we can pool our knowledge. I appreciate it.

David Frum @davidfrum

John Bolton tops short list of candidates to succeed HR McMaster as National Security Adviser. In WSJ, Bolton argues for pre-emptive strike vs North Korea

Bolton is a hardcore interventionist neocon. I was hoping we’d seen the last of them.

If Trump hires Bolton, I suspect that will just spur the Intelligence community to take him down faster.

Ugh. Bolton is a giant leap in the wrong direction.

If one is caught in a sleazy, right-wing entanglement, appearing before golden boy Chuck Todd to get your unchallenged message out, and face softball questions; MTP daily is the place to go.

Bolton won't last. He never does. Even Cheney couldn't stand him. I sincerely hope Mc Masters doesn't leave. The only other alternative is that Bolton could be denied security clearances. Now I would love that! Trump's personal agenda is twofold right now. Play to the base and energize them, so Tariffs, "illegal" immigration, and North Korea's threat.

And second, do everything he can to distract from the Russia investigation. He doesn't give a fuck about Stormy Daniels. As long as the media is covering Stormy they aren't covering Russians. Watch for hi to say outrageous provocative things over the coming weeks. He dominates the news cycle every single day, and there is always a new low.

G. W. Bush appointed Bolton as UN Ambassador, but he could not get enough votes for Senate confirmation. His role in that capacity was basically "acting". Bolton has a controversial history.

Bolton is on Fox News all the time. Trump watches Fox. That's basically why Trump first became intrigued with Bolton.

If Bolton hooks up with Trump, that relationship won't last long.

R406 shows how to accept criticism with grace and humor. You, sir, will never be part of the Trump Administration.

*Meant R416. Original was r406.

Stormy is going to take a pint of blood out of Trump. Unlike others, she's got the documentation.

Dont be too sure that Bolton wont get confirmed.....look at Trumps cabinet...Sessions included (he couldnt get confirmed as a judge) as well as the other confirmations the Senate allowed (federal judges, etc...).....Bolton would fit right in.

Stormy may have a pic of Trumps orange micro manhood. Disgusting.

If it's true, can you imagine our Dear Leader's emotional conundrum?

If he has a micro-penis, he'll desperately want to prevent a pic from leaking.

If he happens to have a ginormous cock, he'll want to brag about it and let the pic loose, except that he can't because it confirms the payout.

^ I read "Recitals" as "Rectals" at first in that screenshot. Wonder if she has a photo of the Presidential Balloon Knot.

Congress doesn’t go through a confirmation process for the National Security Advisor position. It’s completely the President’s choice.

[quote]Bannon is the puzzle. I'd be interested in what he actually knows.

After reading Fire and Fury, I came away with the impression Bannon is actually the most "patriotic" one in that gang. They all went in for personal gain and glory but Bannon actually wanted to change the country. Not in a good way but he did want better in his vision. He's a son of a bitch but he knew all the others were worthless, stupid, grasping crooks, and did try and warn them.

[quote] He's a son of a bitch but he knew all the others were worthless, stupid, grasping crooks, and did try and warn them.

How did he try and warn them? I didn't read the book.

“Orange micro manhood.” That’s both revolting and delightful at the same time.

R432 Agree. Bannon is driven by political ideology. He's quite nationalistic, and some of his views can be disturbing and/or wacky. But I never got the impression he was about financial greed or social climbing. His grooming is poor, and he doesn't care about fashion or the executive look. He does like power, and sought respect/endorsements for his ideas. Making financial investments and deals don't appear to be what drives him.

[quote]If Bolton hooks up with Trump, that relationship won't last long.

Does any?

[quote]Orange micro manhood

Don't get me started.

All of this just always leads me back to realizing how fucking disgusting the GOP is. If Obama had paid off a hooker using campaign money I'm sure they all would have just ignored it, right? If Chelsea Clinton had backed a blockade of Qatar, and put American troops in harm's way doing so, because she wanted to punish Qatar for not loaning her money, I'm sure the GOP would have held no hearings about it. And if Hillary was using back channels to get Russian money and to communicate with Putin while he attacked our country, I'm sure the GOP would have nothing to say on the matter.

Trump is the symptom. Republicans and their voters are the disease.

"Trump is the symptom. Republicans and their voters are the disease."

So much this, r438.

I was at the doctor's office picking up my mother today, and the TV there had on Faux News. I've literally never watched it.

In the 15 minutes I was there, the black woman host was laughing "There was no Blue Line! They didn't come near US!"

So, Fox News is an openly Republican mouthpiece now? No more (fake) Fair and Balanced?

That drunk guy was on claiming that Mueller can still lock him up, he doesn't care. More "WITCH HUNT!" nonsense.

There was a "report" that Trump said talks are going wonderfully with South Korea (ignoring any North Korea talk).

And right before I left in those 15 endless horrible minutes, who did they bring up and start raking over the coals?

Hillary, of course.

I have to also repeat and praise R438: "Trump is the symptom. Republicans and their voters are the disease."

Oh mercy, I need my "spirit of hartshorn"!

These Lilin-demons, posing as women, are trying to harm our President!

R440, you got me curious. Switched to Fox for a moment; they are covering NE snow storm, some blocked shooting at a school in Utah, and the tariffs debate. No Stormy.

[quote]No Stormy.

What's to report? A porn actress wants to get a little attention to increase her business prospects. How many seconds should be devoted to that by any neutral news outlet?

[quote]So, Fox News is an openly Republican mouthpiece now? No more (fake) Fair and Balanced?

MSNBC has been openly calling them "Trump TV" for several months now.

Fox & Friends at this point is quite blatantly performing for an audience of one.

[quote] David Frum @davidfrum: John Bolton tops short list of candidates to succeed HR McMaster as National Security Adviser. In WSJ, Bolton argues for pre-emptive strike vs North Korea

Jack Bolton was an ass back in the 80s when I was a lobbyist on international humanitarian affairs.

Don McGahn has been leaking to the NYT again:

R446, Trump seemed to be trying to “re-write” McGahn’s memory — i.e., to tamper with him as a witness.

So the President is really David Dennison?

More shit just dropped about the mysterious meeting in the Seychelles. One really can't keep up with this shite! Looks like it was to set up a backchannel to the Kremlin..why??? What the fuck!!

r449.....although they are reporting that today, it was actually mentioned at the time it was first reported.....even Rachel Maddow did a segment on it.

I couldnt be happier.....I want Eric Prince to go down big time.

It's all coming so fast and furious now. Could the end be near? Trump is increasingly isolated. The chaos he loves so much is biting him in the ass. His Hope is gone. Mother of Mercy, will thus be the end of Little Cheeser?

Yes it was, and there was some indication that something was shady about the meeting when it was first leaked last year. The thing is, a lot of what's going on is going over the heads of Mrs. Malone in Peoria. I use that as a figure of speech. We need to be doing a much better job of showing the American people exactly why Russia is evil, and point to specific examples of what they have done to us that demonstrates how evil they are.

They have been fucking around with us for years. They have been fucking around in the Middle East for years. The bad shit they have been involved with, costing not only American lives but hundreds of thousands of lives all over the world, we need to tell that story. And we haven't. We know that Iran is evil. They took American hostages. Ben Affleck was in the movie. But how many people know Russia's involvement with Iran and Syria and Lebanon in the late 70's and the 80's, 90's and up to today?

Russia has been a bad actor for a very long time. Some people say, "Well we did it too." I have no apologies to make and I won't be put on the defensive by that kind of thinking. Because IMO, everything we have done has been to advance the interests of the United States and our allies. We got some stuff wrong. we made mistakes. We fucked up. But until now we have never had a POTUS who was representing the interests of an enemy of the U.S. and deliberately acting to weaken us. IMO, the man is guilty of treason. Any Republican who is permitting this, turning a blind eye, or actively aiding and abetting it is guilty of treason.

Why is Jared going to Mexico? Is he making a break for it?

Congress is so wrapped in partisanship, and bought-off by wealthy donors and special interests, doing the right thing per this DJT-Putin saga is beyond them.

Republicans in Congress fear getting critical tweets from Trump, and desperate not to offend Trump's 35% base.

David Koch and company created this. Citizens United is one of the worst Supreme Court decisions ever.

Prince is in the middle of a bunch of shit. Trump made noise at first about doing away with the Secret Service and using his own men- led by Prince. And Prince has been lobbying for months to take over the war in Afghanistan with his mercenaries. That weird server in a Trump Tower that was 'talking to' the Russian bank also talked to one other place- Spectrum Health. Which is owned by...Prince's family.

Anderson Cooper interviewing Bernie Sanders spouting his same ole shit. MSNBC's Chris Hayes has on Elizabeth Warren.

Why? Sick of hearing about Dodd-Frank history. How about they get something done in their Senate chamber rather than campaign?

Because, R456, the GOP is about to go after the banking industry regulations again and rob us blind again.

SOMEBODY has to be paying attention, we don't want to put all our eggs in one basket.

r438 so completely gets it.

Considering the barrage of corruption that emerges on an almost daily basis, I have to wonder if Rosenstein hasn't authorized Mueller to quietly send some smaller cases to select federal prosecutors either in DOJ's Criminal Division or in U.S. Attorney Offices around the country. The lawyers that Mueller has on his staff are exceptionally brilliant and talented people, but there are only so many hours in a day and there is only so much they can do. And, what we hear about doesn't encompass whatever crimes Mueller and the FBI have uncovered and we don't know about.

As someone mentioned upthread, trying to keep up with this has become nearly impossible.

We are being governed by a bunch of lying, cheating, thieving, treasonous felons who are beholden to a hostile foreign power. Despicable. And not at all what the Founders intended.

The Seychelles meeting is damning. What really bothers me is the way all these people Trump, Micael Cohen his thug lawyer, Erik Prince, Jared, Manafort, etc. all of them act like they're above the law and don't give fuck about all this. That bothers me because this can't only be about getting pardons. This has to be about something else. I think we are entering a critical period. If it really looks like the Dems will take Congress I expect Trump and his people to do something awful to hold on to power and not suffer the consequences for their crimes.

A Memorandum of Understanding is not a contract. It is a mutually agreed statement of expectations.

If it exists, it establishes the quid pro quo of a conspiracy.

I cannot understand why ANYONE would sign a MOU with a political entity.

I agree with r460. They are emboldened. And it’s very telling how the Republican party stands aside and is virtually completely silent. Actually, pretty much everyone is silent. What are they all doing right now?

Waiting for primary season to end.

- - - Gutless traitors

These people are blinded by their greed for money and power. They don't even see that they are wrong. All they see is somone STANDING IN THEIR WAY and that causes them to have a major temper tantrum. You can't reason with them (or their stupid followers). All you can do is put them away for good. Seriously, put them all on a big enoug island so they can go at each others' throats and fight amongst themselves without any one innocent getting hurt. Hell, make the ultimate Reality TV show of it where the rest of the world can watch how they murder each other to win. It would give us all closure. An old chapters of lies and misery ends and a new, more hopeful, chapter begins.

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that Putin didn't only compromise or co -opt Trump. Putin had to hedge his bets. He couldn't rely solely in one person. So there have to be other operatives or assets besides Trump. Nunes is obvious. But this network is wider. There are some members of Congress, there are people in the business community and in the Media.

I think we have to ask where the Kochs are in all this. Is this simply a fusion of two separate forces that have compatible goals? Both of them want a weak central government for different reasons? Putin's goal is chaos. He wants a weakened U.S. for obvious reasons. Then you have the Corporatists like the Kochs who want to privatize everything and impose tax cuts to shrink the central government out of existence.

The Extremists want to isolate America, ban Muslims, put up The Wall, people of color, women, Gays, etc. are all targets. It's always important to give people someone to hate. It's important to instill fear of "Others" so people are easier to control. Then you have Erik Prince with his world wide interests in a private army. Every country in Europe is experiencing versions of what we a are going through with the Alt Right extremists re-asserting themselves to varying effect.

I'm afraid that everything the people propping Trump up have done so far is just a prelude. I think we will see their efforts accelerate between now and November. All these special elections are misleading. They're probing us to figure out how to work against us, see what will work in November.. We have to be smarter and more determined.

The silence and capitulation of the GOP leadership in Congress is damning. They need the spotlight on them. And so do the Kochs. We need to expose them and determine once and for all if they are deliberately part of this or simply have common interests. Either way, they are definitely not working in the interests of the United States. We need to start legal actions and pass laws to break up their industries the same way they want to break up our government.

I think I can predict the best way to deal with Putin's troll farms and his Internet Research Agency. They need to be destroyed. So let's imagine some black ops team that goes in and both physically and remotely destroys the functioning of the groups. Like maybe a "warehouse fire" or something graphic and in his face. He would be royally pissed off. He would probably call Trump and scream at him. And Trump would tell him "I had nothing to do with this I knew nothing about it."

And it would be true. Because it would be done without Trump's knowledge and consent. In fact it could even be handed off to some foreign ally of the United States because they too would suffer harm from the troll farm. But it would send a huge message to Putin: Trump is useless. He's not the one in charge. He is no "Strong Man." ( Putin chose him because Trump is a fool, but now he would see it's a double edged sword.) In fact, I'd bet some things are already happening through the international intel community, that have Putin really crazy with anger.

[quote]I think we have to ask where the Kochs are in all this. Is this simply a fusion of two separate forces that have compatible goals? Both of them want a weak central government for different reasons? Putin's goal is chaos. He wants a weakened U.S. for obvious reasons. Then you have the Corporatists like the Kochs who want to privatize everything and impose tax cuts to shrink the central government out of existence.

Isn't it obvious? Out of the chaos in the US, created by Putin and his agents, comes a oligarchy, like Russia, where the Kochs are Kings ruling over their subjects. The Kochs ruling on their terms without having to go through a middleman like a government official (senator, for example). No more pretending that the US is a democracy.

Holy Mother of Shit!!! The hits just keep on comn'! Michael Isikoff and David Korn are VERY CREDIBLE. Sex clubs. I'm telling you how big is the leap from this to Trump participating in human trafficking? Model agencies beauty contests, "networking parties" in his hotels and condos buildings? I didn't read Fire & Fury, but I'm damned sure reading this one.

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1

Russia-backed online “trolls” flooded social media in the weeks after Trump’s election to try to block Mitt Romney from securing the Secretary of State position, a WSJ analysis shows.

Ever hear Mr. Koch interviewed? He'll be relatively soft-spoken, even sound fairly and relatively reasonable in his homey, Kansas voice. He has been a proponent of illegal immigration (bringing them in massively), NOT to award citizenship, but for cheap, non-union labor and hoards of new consumers. It is to support his industries. Social consequences are not the priority to address. He wants maintain the monopoly he has (no anti-trust suits), gut environmental regulations, exploit federal land, pursue eminent domain as a private entity, pay little in taxes, pay low wages, eliminate worker health insurance obligations, abolish what he sees as overnmental, unfriendly banking and commerce regulations, etc.

Dealing with issues such as abortion, gay rights, public education, prison reform, religion, etc. are not the Koch thing, directly, but understand such matters help keep the Republican base in the fold with their financial objectives. The Koch method is 'control" of goverment, privatization (in their corporate favor), not simply receiving friendly policies. They buy their politicians; and any Republican politician that disagrees with them on one agenda item, will get "primaried", and likely lose.

The Kochs are receiving what they want with Trump and this GOP Congress. They are probably uneasy with Trump's antics, instability, and certainly the investigation happening. The Kochs adore Pence, but know he does not garner the passion of the fundamental base that Trump does.

[quote] . So there have to be other operatives or assets besides Trump. Nunes is obvious. But this network is wider. There are some members of Congress

Rand Paul. McCain said Ron Paul "worked for Vladimir Putin" on the floor of the senate. The first person to run to a microphone and defend Rand Paul while excoriating McCain? Why, none other than Roger Stone, on Alex Jones' show.

More networking among thieves.

Erik Prince is hosting fundraisers for Dana Rohrabacher.

The very rich in the US used to fund libraries, universities, hospitals, etc not because they were such great people but because they feared the masses. And they feared the newspapers at that time, which had great power.

They didn't know about propaganda and how to use it in the US back then. Now they own much of the media. Their politicians have gutted education and funded religion ("faith based institutions") in order to weaponize a bunch of addled meth heads and fanatics in the south and Midwest to worship the very rich and hate social reformers.

What a sad, sick bunch.

Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders are the two Senators that voted against sanctions on Russia. They give their deflective reasons, but it is the recorded vote that matters.

Sick of CNN and their obsession with having Sanders on regularly for interviews and staged debates and town halls.

406/416 you’ve got class and I like you!

Sanders is sweating like a whore in church when it comes to the Russia investigation.

I am fucking sick of both Sanders, personally - Sarah H. and Bernie. Peas in a Russian propaganda pod.

A new book is coming out that has new details about Trump, his Russian obsessions and pissing prostitutes!

“Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump”

“Part of the group — including Trump, Emin, Goldstone, reigning Miss Universe Olivia Culpo and outgoing Miss USA Nana Meriwether — went after dinner to an after-party at a raunchy nightclub called the Act, where they arrived shortly after midnight.

The Act was later ordered a few months to stop its “lewd” and “offensive” performances — which involved activity that resembles salacious details of the Trump-Russia dossier compiled by a former British spy.

“Among the club’s regular acts cited by the judge was one called ‘Hot for Teacher,’ in which naked college girls simulate urinating on a professor,” Isikoff and Corn reported. “In another act, two women disrobe and then ‘one female stands over the other female and simulates urinating while the other female catches the urine in two wine glasses.’

Even more troubling for Republicans, because Pennsylvania’s congressional map is being redrawn, the special election district will likely no longer exist by the time of the November election. But with so much attention trained on the race, House GOP leaders determined they had little choice but to spend whatever is needed to pull Saccone over the finish line.

Particularly concerning, they say, is the fact that the millions of dollars Republicans have spent — much of it highlighting the GOP tax cuts and attempting to tie Lamb to Pelosi — has failed to move the needle.

Others note that Lamb has adroitly cast himself as a conservative figure, allowing him to win over the scores of blue-collar Democrats in an area that has voted Republican in recent elections.

A hunch plus; but think there are a couple of Senators that are directly compromised.

There may be a few others that Russians have dirt on that may not have anything to do with Russia, but would be at least embarrassing, perhaps devastating, if revealed, i. e. sexual affairs/prostitutes, unreported funny money and/or gifts received, etc.

In the House, there may be a dozen or so compromised at varying levels. Four or five of them appear blatantly obvious.

Look at the ones who have vigorously tried to undermine the Mueller investigation; and the few that have been long-time proponents of Russian interests or have established business ties with oligarchs tight with Putin.

The Maryland Senate on Monday night passed a bill to require president and vice presidential candidates to release their tax returns if they wish to appear on the state's ballots.

Kyle Griffin Verified account @kylegriffin1

Jared Kushner did not invite the U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Roberta S. Jacobson — a diplomat with more than 30 years of experience in the region — to his meetings today with top Mexican officials, NYT reports

Good for maryland! All blue states should pass the same bill requiring presidential and vice presidential candidates to release their taxes in order to appear on the state ballot.

They should also ban any president from their state who doesn't make the WH visitors list public.

A Taste of Treason

The comments under the Yahoo link of sex clubs are hilarious. Trumpski's are genuinely stupid.

"Photoshopped!" - no shit, Sherlock. It clearly says "illustrated" next to a pic of the key players.

"oh, yeah? At least Trump's not GAY like Obama!!"

Fucking moronic.

Why the fuck is Jared meeting anyone in Mexico?

Because recently, the President of Mexico cancelled his trip to the USA after a "heated discussion" with Trump over the dumb shit Trump says

R478, see R468.

[quote]Why the fuck is Jared meeting anyone in Mexico?

Cheap pot and truly anonymous sex.

The way we deal with the Kochs, is first to expose them as we did when they gave Paul Ryan his $500000 after he helped get the Tax Bill passed. We need to treat them as toxic as we do the NRA. So expose who got money from them and when they do to our environment and about the illegal workers and all that shit. Constantly shine the spotlight on them. Show how their man has his own office in the WH. Show how they have been buying Congressmen for years. Expose them. And then we can innoculate ourselves against them. Because nothing would piss them off more than being ignored. We know, for example, that Paul Ryan is going to get more money then God from the Kochs to get re-elected. But if Paul Ryan loses that tells the Kochs all the money in the world will not stp informed voters from kicking their asses.

It has been speculated for decades that Trump was using Trump Model Management to traffic in young girls and women.....Actually, I expected him to go down when they went after his bff Jeffrey Epstein.......but his time is coming.

Two unrelated people have Bully Bones Spurs by the balls.

Vlad Putin and Stormy Daniels.

r485, for some odd reason Yahoo commenters are a particularly deplorable brand of Deplorable. The white nationalism, homophobia, and misogyny displayed there is truly eye-popping. The seedy underbelly of heterosexual white male America. Quoting Dermot Mulroney: "The pus that infects the mucous... that cruds up the fungus... that feeds on the pond scum."

Even many of their sports articles are infected with a downright nasty brand of hate politics. I used to love Yahoo Sports; now I've basically stopped going there altogether.

[quote]Why the fuck is Jared meeting anyone in Mexico?

He's already solved the Israel-Palestine conflict and the American opioid crisis. On to the next challenge!

Wouldn't it be amazing if the investigation into Trump-Russia leads to one thing, then another, then another, then another... and in three years the entire GOP and all of its primary donors are under indictment?

Actually the opiod crisis is perfect for Putin. we'll just have a bunch of zombies, low voter turnout and rigged elections and no one will give a shit.

[quote][R485], for some odd reason Yahoo commenters are a particularly deplorable brand of Deplorable.

They also still harbor the notion that Mueller has nothing despite numerous indictments and guilty pleas.

so the sacklers in addition to being the richest and vilest of drug pushers could also be russian agents?

bots ?

Draining the Swamp: ProPublica research reveals that at least 187 Trump appointees have been federal lobbyists, and” many are now overseeing the industries they once lobbied on behalf of. Ethics waivers have been introduced to allow Trump staffers to work on subjects in which they have financial conflicts of interest. At least 35 Trump political appointees worked for or consulted with groups affiliated with the the billionaire libertarian brothers Charles and David Koch.

[quote]Why the fuck is Jared meeting anyone in Mexico?

[quote]He's already solved the Israel-Palestine conflict and the American opioid crisis. On to the next challenge!

Right, he's off to solve Mexico's drug cartel violence problem!

R468, I remember during the election there was some speculation that Trump was running a human trafficking scheme, essentially, with his Trump modeling agency.

Jared wants to revive Trump University and have a branch campus in Mexico City.

This is the sick scum we are up against.

This is the reason the word "ugh" was invented.

Nightmare-inducing. Love the first comment: "I see this man has the Trump Dental Plan." Guffaw.

Lets not forget something about Michael Cohen.....he repeatedly claims he wasnt the person who flew to Prague to meet with the Russians on Trumps behalf.......Remember, last year, Rachel Maddow did a show about the various "mysterious" flights by Russians who appeared to be following Trump around while he was campaigning.....at one point MC came up....they were able to connect together how MC pulled off the meetings (in the Steele dossier) while claiming he was in CA with his daughter. Not only are these people scum, but theyre traitorous. They intentionally engaged with Russia. I dont understand, with all of the things we already know, why he has not been arrested for treason and jailed until he can prove otherwise. I know the GOP are partisan and divisive, but you would think the top intelligence agencies would act.....as a matter of national security. It wouldnt be a coup because we have a line of succession. This is some serious shit and nobody is taking it seriously. Imagine the damage that is done that we dont know about ? What secrets has he given away ? Putin told Trump that if he played ball, Trump would become one of the richest men on earth. I find it hard to believe he is clueless.

How is Trump still going? His age + shitty health + extreme stress should have killed him by now, right?

Thanks, r500. ProPublica's "Trump Town" is true yeoman's work. Investigative journalism at its finest. Now I know what was in all those many stacks of folders at his "divestiture" press conference: ethics waivers.

Lindsey Graham is insisting there be a Special Counsel to investigate the FISA warrant in the Carter Page case.

Lindsey and Tom Cotton sure making a big fuss about Carter.

MSNBC just announced Trump to make major announcement re: peace negotiations between N and S Korea.

If this dispute is finally settled after 65+ years, this will be a major coup for Trump. Trump's bellicose hard line made Kim quake in his boots and realize he had no other alternative but to seek peace.

Stick a fork in the Dems in November 2018. They're toast.

r511....If that happens, I would find it highly suspicious......ou wouldnt find it odd that two of our biggest enemies suddenly want to cooperate ?......Regardless of what spews forth from Trump, hes an idiot, the world thinks hes an idiot and there is no way in hell Kim Jung would back down from him. Remember....we have nobody in the State Dept. Seriously.

Tin hat time: Russia is ally to N Korea. Is Putin behind this?

OOOPS R511, you forgot to sign your post, "The Stick a Fork in the Dems in November 2018 Troll"

[quote]Stick a fork in the Dems in November 2018. They're toast.

Do you usually stick a fork into your toast?

This may be more the working of S Korea which has a leader right now that isn't particularly pro-USA. North Korea needs money from South Korea so this may be more about that than anything Trump had done.

We have nothing to do with it.....we dont even have a Korean ambassador right now.

R513 Similar thoughts. Putin moved Kim to give a boost to Trump. Compatible with S. Korea's efforts.

From another thread:

"The below are tweets from Jeffrey Lewis and are the best take I've seen yet:

North Korea has been seeking a summit with an American president for more than twenty years. It has literally been a top foreign policy goal of Pyongyang since Kim Jong Il invited Bill Clinton.

I wonder if Trump's "aides" have explained that to him. Or, if in their toddler-handling, they have led him to believe that this offer is something unusual. Or perhaps he imagines that only he can go Pyongyang.

This is literally how the North Korean film "The Country I Saw" ends. An American President visits Pyongyang, compelled by North Korea's nuclear and missile programs to treat a Kim as an equal.

To be clear -- we need to talk to North Korea. But Kim is not inviting Trump so that he can surrender North Korea's weapons. Kim is inviting Trump to demonstrate that his investment in nuclear and missile capabilities has forced the United States to treat him as an equal."

That seems absolutely right, R519. Hasn't North Korea been seeking face-to-face negotiations with the U.S. for decades? As I understand it, prior administrations have refused to do this so as not to reward North Korea for its awful behavior.

Yes, by all means, Donald, you wouldn’t want to reward bad behavior. You have very big hands.

It is not tin foil hat to wonder about this meeting. Russia props up North Korea more than China does. Trump is a Russian asset. So.

I don't understand why intelligence agencies aren't taking him down, either. I really don't. I don't want to hear Mueller is working, be patient, etc etc. The President of the United States is a foreign agent. This is a crisis. And why are Rohrbacher and Nunes allowed to remain in Congress getting access to top secret information they can pass on to their Russian handlers? Fuck patience. These guys all need to be taken down now.

R511 LOL Thanks for the laugh, Troll. Unstable idiot Trump will mess it up because he's a loose cannon with no one left in this WH to rein him in. Much smarter people have dealt with NK over the years, and the only thing that NK really wants underneath the cycles of talks and saber-rattling is for Americans to leave the Korea peninsula, and no negotiation or quid pro quo will get them that. The only thing that will really change the situation is if there is a coup puts someone sane in charge of NK, and of course someone with a brain gets into the WH.

Dont forget....we need to thank Trumps good friend, Dennis Rodman.....having proved himself such a profound intermediary by befriending Kim Jung Un and showing the world that love conquers all.

Erik Prince was Dana Rorhabacher's intern back in 1990.

Erik Prince is a very dangerous man. He is a complete militarist. Read the book on Blackwater, that Jeremy Scahill wrote. Jeremy was in fear for his life.

So, Cheeto....errr....Trumplstilts....uhhmm, I mean r511, how long have you been on DL? We recall your...ahhh..tRump's declaration that he'd rush, unarmed, into a school where there was an active shooter. You..I mean HE'S such a powerful and strong manly man, that no bullets can hurt him, and Kim Jong Un's nuclear warheads will fail to launch in his mighty presence.

Trump alluded two months baths ago that he was “secret friends” with North Korea; it’s been a set up by Putin from the start, complete with Trump terrorizing his own nation with nuclear war threats. Trump behaves as a gaslighting, wife-beating abuser, except here the wife experiencing the domestic violence is the United States.

R524, Transwomen of Color- is there anything they cannot do?

(I saw claims that Rodman is a transy the other day, and this made me laugh)

Rodman is all over the sexuality and gender map. But I predict he's the next Secretary of State. I don't know what his body is like now but I can think of a time he'd be welcome in my bed. He has a nice big cock. If we don't want him as SOS, we need to remind Cheetolini of Rodmans large hands and big cock.

[quote]Rodman is all over the sexuality and gender map. But I predict he's the next Secretary of State.

You know what the funniest part of that would be? Watching all the Repugs in Congress and across the nation falling over themselves to praise the brilliance of such a wise choice.

Especially the evangelicals

I'm trying to imagine how Dennis and Kim came together. Who pursued whom? Has Dennis fucked Kim? I know someone who worked on the movie Double Team, and apparently Rodman fucked Van Damme. Before they fucked, the director was worried that their mutual sexual attraction was too obvious on film. It got quite frisky.

Kim will get to meet KellieAnn; there will be some positives.

It will be interesting to see how Trump navigates his relationships with China and Russia who do not get along with one another. And both of them wield interests in the Korean Peninsula. I believe North Korea will lean more towards accommodating China than Russia, but the truth is, there's a lot of similarity between Trump and Li'l Kim. Both of them have huge egos and contrarian streaks. So Kim will toy with China by doing something Russia wants. It's a messy place for amateurs. The only good thing to come out of this is if Trump goes to South Korea, or to the DMZ, and gets captured and held in a North Korean prison. He deserves it, and I hope he takes Pence, Ryan, McConnell and Nunes with him.

It’s the height of hubris to engage in diplomacy like this. Trump thinks he’s King Arthur but he’s not.

Yes, he's doing this because he can. And because he is frustrated with how Washington -- and the world of politics -- actually works. He doesn't get to bark orders like he is on a reality TV show and see everyone jump on command. So, he decided to impose tariffs, because he could. And he decided to meet with Little Rocket Man because he could and because Bill Clinton, Bu$h, and Obama didn't.

He is a dangerous and reckless man.

[quote]Yes, he's doing this because he can.

The idea would in the first instance have continued Putin's plans.

The Tariffs ploy was an interesting example of how sadistic and bullying he is. He says something outrageous but it plays well with his base. Then he looks for legitimacy by making sure there are people like Wilbur Ross, that piece of shit 80 yr old billionaire with ties to the Putin family, who co-signs it. Then Trump toys with us saying "Well, maybe there might be some exemptions..." and the world literally goes ape shit about the entire pronouncement. First he says "Tariffs" then he says "some exemptions" and everyone waits to see who can get a waiver.

Now the fact is The Kochs oppose this, and Ryan put out a statement opposing it. But because they're dealing with a psycho, Ryan had to frame a second statement more carefully. He says, "Yeah, I understand where you're going POTUS, we want to help our workers and our manufacturing industry. Great! But can we be more surgical and try to refine it a little?" Which is Ryan's way of offering Trump a way to get back off the limb he went out on.

Trump is transparently easy to manipulate. But he is also a willful, bullying, egotistical, narcissistic, unstable person completely unfit to lead. And every fucking day we have new reasons to hate Ryan and the GOP. Because they know exactly what he is, and what he did to get there, and how negligent he has been about protecting our country and they are aiding and abetting.

Miss Lindsey warns Kim "not to try to play Trump, or we'll end you".

Miss Lindsey states her parameters and admiration for Trump.

Ryan and hi House will never move on Trump, unless the Kochs greenlight it.

The Kochs are top players in international oil and gas exploration, development, and sales. This is part of what Tillerson did as CEO of Exxon. This activity engages Russia heavily. Until the Kochs' cash flow is disrupted, they will support the status quo. All is going their way.

Trump will try to bully NK and this will all end in TEARS!

I kinda suspect that we're just not going to see that meeting because the basic premise behind it is almost certainly not going to happen.

R544 No kidding! NK/Kim is so sensitive about the US/SK giving it face... see how SK is practically bend over backward to accommodate the North to get this far, and we all know what a sensitive soul Trump is. This meeting is more a recipe for disaster than anything else.

The two are very much alike. they very well may meet for a photo op, and then a couple months later, everything will revert to the way it was, with Trump insulting him, and him insulting Trump. Right now I'm interested to know who benefits from the way things are. From what we understand, North Korea has millions on the verge of starving. It's as if China and Russia and a few others have to prop the country up. YOu'd think they would all want North Korea to stand on its own two feet economically instead of draining them. But OTOH, if North Korea was more stable and stonger, and still possessing nuclear weapons, then the whole balance of power would be fucked up.

NK gets the "look we're equal with the US" photo-op they've been after for decades. NK will, most likely, get an easing of sanctions or a lessening of military exercises because Trump is the self-proclaimed king of negotiations. The US and the world will get nothing in return because the king of negotiations is a fucking moron. NK will end up even more emboldened on the world stage and because of Trump's ego, he'll need to pretend that he accomplished something wonderful so he will start defending Kim the same way he defends Putin.

Trump is a fucking idiot.

All Kim Jung Un has to say to Trump privately:

"You have very big hands. That means your penis be so, so big. I envy you having such big penis."

Kim will receive whatever he wants from the summit.

Negotiating with a wishy-washy dictator.... Don't do it, Kim.

Kim is probably fascinated by this big time TV star celebrity. That's what impresses him. But as far as a world leader? Hell, Kim said it best: '"Trump is a dotard." So yeah, photo ops all around.

It's been referred to on the BBC as 'the summit of the century.' Similarly a reporter saw it as 'like a Las Vegas prizefight.' When Trump picks up this vibe he'll be like a pig in shit.

Evidently Trump's acceptance came without many (or any) prefatory consultations with senior advisors. He's taken this initiative which will dominate discourse till May - and relegate all those troubling allegations gaining such traction. Given how the BBC is seeing this, you can imagine how it'll be spun for deplorables.

It remains to be seen how Trump's opportunism will be a game changer in the way he needs. Unintended consequences seem inevitable. None of which will alter the facts which Mueller is meticulously gathering.

The Int’l community had to be goaded into treating NK like a pariah. Kim’s put everything he’s got into his missile efforts; but still cannot get everything he needs without outside help. As He would not want to meet if sanctions weren’t hurting.

Once the President of the US meets with NK, pariah status will begin to fade. That’s why no other President, R or D, has.

Kim knows a Trump Meeting will unlock the floodgates to other nations’ meetings and needed deals.

R551 It's a reality show to a dumbass like Trump. He doesn't get he's not the boss, just an elected official. It doesn't help that he was a rubber-stamp Congress in place kissing his ass.

R551, it's the "summit of the century" for today. But two months is a very long time in Trump Land. His ego and his self-destructiveness mean that there will be new earth-shaking catastrophes between now and any possible meeting with Kim.

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders on Friday said North Korea must prove “concrete and verifiable actions” ahead of any meeting, declining to commit to any specific date for such a gathering to take place.

“Let’s be very clear, the United States has made zero concessions,” Sanders said from the podium Friday, adding that the U.S. must see North Korea take “concrete” actions to follow through on its promises, namely, denuclearization.

In other words, the meeting will never happen.

Exactly, r555.

R555 NK will never truly "denuclearize" as long as the US has troops in South Korea. Anyone can see it's an impasse. All negotiations around it are just part of the same delaying tactics that have been going on for decades. Only after the irrational Kim dynasty is gone will there will real negotiations. And of course, the US has to get rid of an unstable ignoramus like Trump as well.

A thread title suggestion in honor of the Mueller investigation's continuing period of enlightenment: The Age of Treason

Well, Kim did make one secret request that Trump is pondering. Kim said the first night there he wants some fun-fun time with a voluptuous, blonde American woman. Thus, I suppose, Kellyanne will be traveling.

Is Kellyanne voluptuous? Is Kellyanne blonde?

R557 Gets it!

....you mean Ivanka.

The meeting will never happen. Trump needed SOMETHING to get the attention off the porn star, the Russian probe, his tariff fuck up. So now it's this made up fantasy diplomatic mission. Will Dennis Rodman be part of the diplomacy team or maybe Margaret cho?

Is trumps prep for this "summit" putting Kim chi on his Mac Donald's burger? Please bitches don't believe the BS that this is going to happen - though he will string everyone along until...July 4th or so

Oy my god. According to the Wall Street Journal, Trump's lawyers are going to tell Mueller Donald will meet with him if Mueller then agrees to end the Trump part of the investigation within a specific time frame, such as 60 days from the time of the meeting. I wish I could have seen Mueller's face when he heard this.

Mueller should agree......then on the 59th day, charge him.

We'll take that under advisement, gurl.

BAJOUR!

Too soon?

Maddow is reporting on The Washington Post’s story about Trump writing a letter to Putin in 2013. The article details how desperate Trump was to befriend Putin.

Where is Donnie going to meet with Kim anyway? He's terrified to be anywhere but the White House, MaraLago or his golf club. He's got to know how many Americans want him dead and how much the Secret Service despises him. I'll believe this meeting happens when I see it.

R569 Supposedly at the DMZ/Panmunjeom... yeah, don't think he thought it through. Might take the weekend to sink in.

Someone should play that video of a North Korean assassin quickly killing off Kim Jong Un's uncle (or whoever it was) in that airport over and over before Trump goes anywhere. I'm picturing him so paranoid that every time anyone approaches him he goes into a series of bad kung fu moves.

According to the Post and other media outlets, Trump wanted to build a hotel in Moscow but Obama hit Putin with Sanctions for invading the Crimea or the Ukraine or WTF ever. So Trump was blocked. LOL! He was "this close" to meeting Putin, he was BFFs with a wealthy oligarch who was Putin's builder, he could have had his hotel and become buddies with Pooty, even getting Putty to come to his beauty pageant. He was THIS CLOSE, I tell ya.!!!

IMO, I think Trump is telling Mueller he is going to shut him down. That's what he really means. Mueller has been warned. I sincerely hope that within the next 48 days Mueller's team can charge the President with crimes. This is a huge investigation. It could go on for two or three years, and involve a lot of people besides Erik Prince or Devin Nunes, or whomever. But Mueller needs to charge Trump and be very specific about what he is charged with. Mueller can get the other people later, but Trump needs to get nailed.

The Erik Prince meeting is particularly damning. First we had Jared asking the fucking Russian Ambassador if he could use the Russia Embassy's "safe room" to set up back channel communications with Russia. Then Erik Prince is in the Seychelles right after the election trying to do the same thing on Trump's behalf. it's my guess that even though he is getting this info from George Nader, Mueller also has corroborating evidence to verify the information. That and the money laundering, the obstruction, and the fact that Trump altered US foreign policy to accommodate Putin as a quid pro quo is fucking Treason. But Mueller better hurry.

As for the tariff show, it was a fake out. He's already talking about "waivers." The tariff announcement was for Pennsylvania politics . That election in PA is important. If they lose this one it will be bad for them. PA and steel go together like rum & coke. And more than PA this is for the base, for all the Deplorables who voted for him. Trump is all about salvaging the House seats to preserve a GOP majority. Without it he is dead in the water.

The media really i a joke sometimes. They got all excited and fell for the hyp about Nues and his fucking memo, then they are all about the Porn Star and her pay off, and no one is properly interpreting WTF is going on. They actually took him seriously about the Tariffs, which yes, they should but it was quickly obvious that the Kochs, and most of the GOP members of Congress were really pissed and when he realized it he backed it up.This is all about politics.. It's all about trying to hold on to his base.

R571 It was his older half brother that he had killed. Kim also allegedly sent NK agents to kill off his nephew (the dead guy's son) in Beijing but was thwarted by Chinese secret service. He probably doesn't want any other male heirs alive.

Isn't the White House walking this back now? I read they're now saying The Turnip won't meet with NK unless they meet the same conditions that have always existed for a meeting.

R575, yes, they are taking it back. It's now just a vague possibility. The story popped like a bubble.

I don't think Mueller should make a move on the president directly until the Dems take control of the House. From what I've read, Mueller can recommend charges and report to Congress but Congress has to act on those recommendations and impeach him. Until he is impeached and, hopefully, removed there is still some question if a sitting president can be charged criminally. And, that still does nothing about the cabal of traitors that now fill the Repug leadership throughout Congress.

Mueller can't move until they can all be taken out or it won't go anywhere near the higher level criminals because they are the ones currently running the show.

R572 "He was "this close" to meeting Putin, he was BFFs with a wealthy oligarch who was Putin's builder, he could have had his hotel and become buddies with Pooty, even getting Putty to come to his beauty pageant. He was THIS CLOSE, I tell ya.!!!"

You crack me up, buddy. Masterful interpretation! haha

IMO if Trump fires Mueller before the election he will guarantee a Democratic victory. If he leaves things alone and keeps focusing on his "policies" and more publicity stunts like the North Korea announcement, and the steel tariffs, he might just hang on to the GOP House. Dems will make some gains, but they might not take it. ame with the Senate where Dems have a harder slog just to maintain what they have now.

The Dems are taking the House. Have you been paying any attention to what's been going on in all the elections for a year now?

Watch Sam Nunberg leaving the Mueller Grand Jury today...

As TeaPain on Twitter called it, “Watch Nunberg leavin’ the Grand Jury today and listen to your instincts. This is the nervous face of a feller that just sold his mentor Roger Stone up the river and with him, the Trump presidency.”

[quote] This is the nervous face of a feller that just sold his mentor Roger Stone

I guess that happens when the mentor you've been protecting so vigilantly decides to throw you under the bus.

Rosie's fabulous Trump art.

r540, I wonder if Miss Lindsey placed her hands on her hips when she said that.

r559, just wait until Kim gets a whiff of Kellyanne's snatch. He will rue the day he made that request.

There's no way the woman described in R559 is KA. It's obviously Ivanka. The question is whether or not Dump would share her.

I have it on good authority that Kellyanne's pussy smells like hot salmon topped with cold parmesan.

All Trump does as POTUS is desperately trying to distract people from things he did in the past.

The media should be shamed to be just whores for clickbait and ratings. People should get into their thick skulls that the media is not their friend and they don't get informed by most media outlets, they get mentally poisoned. People need to treat that "Keeping Up With The Trumpians" political reality TV shit the same way they treat the regular "Keeping Up With The Kardashians" trash. Don't fall for it, don't feed it, don't let anyone of these sleazy people live rent free in your mind.

With all of his talk about how detrimental importing steel has been to the US economy....

Has a single person or news outlet called him out for using Chinese Steel for his buildings?

R589 It's been reported that US currently only import 2% of its steel from China. Previous administrations have already curtailed import of steel from China, so this steel tariff will hurt way US allies more than China. Doh!

I'm aware of that R590. The point is the blatant hypocrisy of him saying that people using imported steel is damaging America's economy and he's been doing it for years.

Treasons Change

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R591 Obviously, it's all about getting the "tariff" sound bite out there. It makes him look "tough." There's no real point to any "policies" he ever proposed. Everything he does is either to appease donors/Russia or his racist/xenophobic base.

Yes, R594. But again, the media should be calling him out on the hypocrisy of it. Sort of like how they've mostly ignored how he's now saying he's going to implement stricter gun control laws for those with mental issues when the first thing he did was sign a bill doing away with what Obama already had in place.

Point is... everyone's letting him off the hook and not pointing it out.

R595 If the media weren't spineless to begin with, Hillary would be in the WH. They have always treated Trump like a naughty rich celebrity to gossip about, instead of a politician who should be held to a certain professional/ethical standard.

Yes, R596, that's my point.

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