What did Hilary actually do?

Lets ask Brent Corrigan!!!

Hillary dared to be a woman with strong opinions. Republicans only like two types of females: sex pots & door mats.

She dared to be popular and be a threat to republican power. The GOP's gunned after her for decades and spent millions in taxpayer money doing it.

She had the nerve to stand up to the criminal cabal that is the right wing.

All I hear from the right wing is "Benghazi." As if she lead the attack on the Embassy (or whatever the facility was).

Have you seen those pantsuits?

They really took the gloves off when it came to smearing and demonizing her. Obama too. Republicans really dragged those two through the mud.

She outed the "vast right wing conspiracy" and the vast right wing conspiracy will never forgive her. Plus Republicans want to be the party to have the first woman President, they have so few firsts, they want this one.

He's a Kenyan Muslim, she's on her death bed... it just went on and on. Still does.

Ivanka already has dibs on that, r8.

Deplorables would literally burn her at the stake if they could get away with it.

She sacrificed a chicken to moloch!

I watched in horror as people one by one starting turning on her and realized it was all people who were heavily on Facebook. You could see people literally being brainwashed on their feeds. If you scroll back you can see noh8 pics one year and then Hillary is a murderer the next.

She allegedly has a vagina.

HER EMAILS ARE SO BENGHAZI BILL RAPED THEM!!!!!

It's super tragic that she did not become president.

I love that she is not above trolling the republicans. She knows how to fight back, which is why she won and will always be the legitimate president 45.

[quote] What are some tangible things that she is proven to have done wrong?

Most of her crimes have been crimes of fashion.

She lost.

The jury is still out on who won. we shall see...

Apart from the old queens on the DL everyone else couldn’t stand her...

Hillary did nothing wrong,..right wingers just hate smart, strong, women.

No. No it isn't.

She voted for war with Iraq...that is the only thing I know she did wrong. The fact is, she knew there was no reason to drop bombs on Iraq, it was purely political. So maybe she deserved the hatred? She was the only legitimate candidate in 2016.

[quote] What did Hilary actually do?

Not very much, at least during the final months of the 2016 campaign. That was the problem.

She coughed a lot.

"right wingers just hate smart, strong, women."

This. Given that she's smarter and quicker on her feet automatically makes her a demon In men's eyes.

Also, when she spent 11 hours being grilled by Republicans and never broke out in a sweat shows she has more courage and balls than Trump, the morons he calls his sons, Trump's entire cabinet, and all 535 member of Congress combined.

She was impressive in the debates and in that congressional grilling. With Orange Sasquatch looming up behind her, imagine!

but she still lost.

She lost because there are millions of morons in flyover country, r29.

Hillary won the people's vote by 3 million

Trump won by the Electorate.

She still lost.

Yes, we know, r32. But what did she actually do to cause you to hate her?

She had emails on a non-government server.

So answer me this. Is Trump tweeting on a non-government phone?

What she didn't do is make America the shithole it is where a ludicrous candidate can win. Even with various shady boosts he still got more votes than should be expected of a decent society.

The electorate was fixed.

She's just a cunt. She's over. Lets not make anymore threads about her. TIA.

Love your specificity, R37.

Yes, R37, but what did she do to make you hate her so much? Let's put aside the fact that you hate her for being female.

I know deplorables who blame her for Bill's cheating, which makes no sense to me. "What her husband did is disgusting!" I don't get how that's her fault.

Because her breasts don't hang to her knees like theirs do.

Because cellulite isn't her best friend.

Especially when they are all for gold-digging doormat Mel R40

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At least we all know the truth, conservatives hate liberals and liberals hate 'em right back. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground at this extreme point, I think we will have to wait for a generation to die off before that hatred has any chance of dissipating.

She destroyed entire countries, including Libya and Honduras. She turned Libya over to ISIS and Honduras over to MS-13.

If that happened to Israel there would be 6 million movies, and 6 million museums of tolerance.

I'm a Hilary fan and this is my take...

For starters, they have never forgiven her for the I'm not going to stay home and bake cookies thing. To them she is the quintessential feminazi out to castrate and control men.

Second, Hillary is that kid in class who studied and was prepared and raised her hand for every question and annoyed everyone else. She is the run who ruined the grade curve for the rest of the class. She is the one who cried after she maxed out on extra credit work.

Third, and remember I really love this woman and think she's great... But, Hillary is shady and secretive. Shady and secretive people, who you can't always figure out and pin down, aren't always crowd pleasers and fan favorites. People are always suspicious of their motives and what they aren't saying.

I am a lot like Hillary. I am not an over-sharer, I don't volunteer a lot of personal information, and quite frankly I trust very few people. I have a small inner circle and am never going to be the life of the party. People like us are always given the side-eye and suspected of having a hidden agenda.

R46, did it hurt when you pulled that out of your ass?

Whatever her flaws they are as nothing compared to the Grand Canyon sized cracks in you know who's character and yet he is now making America the punchline of the universe.

[quote]I know deplorables who blame her for Bill's cheating, which makes no sense to me. "What her husband did is disgusting!" I don't get how that's her fault.

She was fucked no matter what she did there. If she had left Bill, they'd have gone after her for not honoring her marriage vows, "for better or for worse," or they'd have gone after her for refusing to "stand by her man." As with much of the crap she put up with from her enemies, there was literally no choice she could possibly have made that would have resulted in their leaving her alone.

What I don 't understand is why can't Hillary sue because of the lies? Why can't Schiff sue Trump...he said Adam is a bad guy and the truth is, he is not a bad guy...why is there no recourse for the battered and abused?

[quote]I watched in horror as people one by one starting turning on her and realized it was all people who were heavily on Facebook.

You’re on to something there. My ex and his mother both got brainwashed over the course of a couple of years and they’re both constantly on Facebook.

She did so much right ( advocate for children, families, minorities, etc) that to the Right wing/ GOP she became too powerful in the Dark Side. She had to be stopped.

But she did well for herself following this whole debacle. :)

She herself has tried to answer this question OP .

I was really hoping she'd be dead by now. She's a constant disappointment.

A woman I work with told me she could never vote for her because Hillary wanted 8-months pregnant women to have abortions. "I'll never vote for her because of THE BABIES!" Fox News has done incredible damage to this country, and I wonder if any of it can ever be repaired.

I've wondered that R51, why is America so hamstrung over this. I hear a lot about how the founding fathers created the perfect system and yet here we are , how come the leader is not faced with any uncomfortable questions? He is able to lie and brag and humiliate people and only allow himself to be 'grilled' by the likes of Fox and Piers Morgan. Over a year and countless embarrassments have gone by and he has been treated with kid gloves throughout.

I’ve heard straight men talk about Hillary with a venom not used for anyone else. I think it’s a combination of absorbing Fox’s demonization of her and bitterness that their own wives finally wised up and left their loser asses.

R50 Everything you say is true. She was damned if she did, damned if she didn't. I don't know why she, more than any other politician, is held to such an impossible standard. No one can live up to that.

[quote]What I don 't understand is why can't Hillary sue because of the lies?

A public figure has to put up with a lot of shit. And lawsuits almost always rebound on them, publicizing the very thing that they are fighting.

The first crime HILLARY (not Hilary, OP, you fucking idiot) was scrutinized for was that she was a "working mother" in 1992. Repubs didn't like that. They also didn't like that she made the list of top 100 Lawyers in the US. After the '92 election, both Nancy Reagan and Marilyn Quayle came forward and said they were very offended at the way the GOP had treated her.

Why are you still talking about this? Her supporters have turned into the bitter clingers. She lost. Move the fuck on.

[quote]I hear a lot about how the founding fathers created the perfect system....

It really isn't. I'd much prefer a Parliamentary system, like much of the rest of the world. Among other things, it would let the purists vote for the candidates of their choosing rather than forcing people to vote for the lesser of two evils.

You all give Fox too much credit, it just takes advantage of the already stupid bible and gun lovin' 'Muricans, this country is totally fucked.

She's a strong willed woman who actually did her homework, which was a big no no back in 1992. They've been demonizing her ever since.

I wouldn't be shocked if the republicans who knew they were making shit up about her eventually started falling for their own propaganda (becoming the mask, so to speak) and not being able to catch her drove some of them INSANE. Especially since their own are starting to get picked off by Mueller.

Hillary Clinton is a very smart, very capable woman. That alone causes insecure, incompetent men to be emasculated. Burn the witch!

I have lost hope in our country and now believe the deplorables have won. At least for now.

Bernie supporters campaigned harder against Hillary then trump’s team did.

I follow some lesser known people in the entertainment industry, all early 30’s, and their anti-Hillary posts were relentless.

R64, it's not so much individual shows and segments, it's an aggregate of fear-mongering, lying, and propaganda that, over time, builds to overwhelming proportions for those who watch it religiously. No other news organization takes it to that level and there are multiple personal reports of people whose relatives have changed over the years of watching that "different reality."

The one thing I take comfort in is that their audience is old and they're having trouble reaching out to the younger generation.

I’ve lost hope too, R66. Gay people need to separate.

The deplorables have won in name only. They are losing the battle on pretty much every important issue.

I was devastated when she lost, but I think her greatest gift will be waking Democrats the fuck up. We can no longer be complacent and we can no longer be the every 4 year party. Every elections matters.

Trump's win will cause us to re-examine a lot of what we assumed about the electorate and the candidates. We can't assume anything anymore.

Article form The Atlantic, 2006. VERY INTERESTING for those who can read.

As stated upthread: it was the pantsuits and crimes against fashion.

R64 Yeah no, America has become more and more polarized and Fox News is the biggest reason. That has been THE republican show and been used as propaganda for forever now. They brainwash people into voting republican because democrats are literally satan, and republicans then in turn can do literally whatever they want because they have a big chunk of voters who will never vote for the other side. Slashing education, especially public schools, is what helps feed into it, but they wouldn't have been able to get away with it to the extent they have if they Fox News hadn't brainwashed tons of people into voting for them and only them.

R52 My best friend's parents were both brainwashed by FB trash -- and we're in Canada. They kept talking about how Hillary was planning to start a war with Russia which would lead to WW3. My friend told me her mom would just spend all day on FB.

I don't think what is happening now can be described as winning R67 but I share your dismay. We got complacent and thought progress was a given and didn't take enough note of the seething Neanderthals hating every step forward. Remember, even as this right wing ugliness is going on there is a super liberal push that despite the loathing of the conservatives is changing the landscape, and the way we think and talk about equality and gender and other Republican Kryponite issues , the ball is rolling and it is unstoppable and in many ways the current Archie Bunkerism is the dying attempt to stop it, and it will die.

Above post was meant to be in reference to R66

Mark Zuckerberg needs to face the music over this, he must have been aware of what was going on. The above posters are right, Facebook played a large part in turning the gullible against her.

Fox is definitely poisoning the well R75, but the viewers are looking for the shit they pour into it, I don't think they are brainwashed, that's letting them off the hook, they are choosing that shit, Fox is just exacerbating the problem .

She was against me and many others...why do so many forgive and forget this?

Well I'm still against you R81.

She was an instrumental person attacking the credibility & even sanity of the many women over the years who deigned to impugn her husband's fidelity. It was shady in real time & obviously looks so much worse in retrospect.

R83, what woman ever came out, dissed the husband and sided with the mistress(es)? Can you name one example where that happened, even on a less public stage?

^ meant to say "came out with a public statement"

read her Emails you can see what she was up to just ask Bernie and his supporters

R84, Hillary wasn't pilloried for standing by her man. It was her affirmative role in taking the lead to attack these women. Very different.

I’m with you R81. I feel the Clinton’s are forced into liking gay people. They don’t really care for gay people. I’m excited for future Democrats. I wish the Clinton’s woukd go away, and Trump would go away, and Bernie would go away.

We won't know who really won the election until the investigation is over. I'm leaning toward Hillary given the evidence so far.

Yes, R38, and how many other women do you know who went through a similar situation who did not take a definite stand in support of the husband and against the "others"?

And, honestly, at the end of the day, is that the worst thing a human being can do in such a terribly humiliating (public) situation?

That's the reason to discard everything she has accomplished politically? Over one personal action? Do we hold every politician to that standard? Do you?

[quote] read her Emails you can see what she was up to just ask Bernie and his supporters

Please, revisit OP's question. OP is not asking for innuendos.

What was "she up to" that is evident from her emails?

She killed Vince Foster!!

regarding Juanita Broadrick

What R56 said is one of the more legit answers. She was a librul which meant she was evil in the minds of Rethugs. Yeah R50 and R51 Hillary said she knew in an A-B choice system regardless of what she chose she had criticism. Stay with Bill she condones misogyny and she is a hypocrite. Leave Bill then she only did it for political gain and she couldn't honor her marriage vows which also somehow makes her a hypocrite. Damned if she chose A, Damned if she Chose B or C or D or E etc.

Hey DL geniuses, all you'd have to do is read a little.

1. Hillary was never very bright ....... her GPAs have never been released, but her colleagues at Wellesley and Yale do not recall any particular promise or intellectual ability that distinguished her time there. When she graduated, she failed the DC bar. She finally passed the Arkansas bar, but not without influence from Bill, the newly elected attorney general at the time. 2. She has never ever fought for women and children. Much is made of her year working with Marian Wright Edelman at the children's defense fund, but she did nothing there and in fact, so infuriated MWE that MWE carried a grudge against her for almost 40 years, finally speaking to her only after political pressure was brought to bear. Think about it. If you had to actually point to a single accomplishment HRC could claim in her work for women and children, what would that be? None have ever been described because there are none. 3. She made hay pandering to white racists for political gain. Her Super-predator crap occurred just as Bill gutted welfare, in fact, gutted the entire social network, while simultaneously quadrupling the black prison population. And then, adding insult to injury, she gave speeches to bankers talking about how they (she and Bill) had decreased unemployment in the Black communities (yeah--- by locking up upwards of 25% of young males from urban centers!) 4. She pissed off everyone she ever worked with, including the partners at the Rose Law Firm. They were convinced that if they didn't get rid of her, their firm was in danger of ethics sanctions. 5. Her father was mob connected (he ran the Chicago mob with Dan Rostenkoski, a house speaker who eventually went to prison; look Hugh Rodham up); she learned that style of doing business (coercion). She was Bill's enforcer. She threatened women who she perceived as threats to Bill's political career. Even victims of rape. Juanita Broaddrieck, of course, but at last 3 more. The travelgate mess happened because she DID fire everybody in the white house travel office in order to hand out political favors in the form of jobs, ruining people's careers and reputations. 6. when she was first lady, she took on national health care, which she fucked up entirely. As the NY times put it recently, "In the end, the Clintons were stunned by the collapse of the effort in Congress, a defeat that helped lead to the Republican takeover in 1994.”" 7. After Paula Jones won a huge settlement against the Clintons, Hillary and Bill were broke. That's when the Clinton Foundation occurred to them. They made more than $200 million in the 15 years after they left the white house and that does not include the billions raked in by the clinton foundation that were SUPPOSED to go to humanitarian efforts but did not. Hillary became the picture of avariciousness and greed. And when she lost to Obama in 08 she and Bill demanded Secretary of State precisely so that they could go global. Which they did. The Uranium One deal was just one treasonous act. Establishing ISIS , another ----- in exchange for $200 million from the Saudis, who were paying to get their pipeline built thru Syria for access to the European oil markets. Hillary will stop at nothing in pursuit of the almighty dollar and THAT is the main reason people hate her so. They would never trust her, knowing it is always about cash with her. She is the ultimate condescending elitist. There is so much to hate Hillary for, the spoiled mafiosa daughter who never takes responsibility, who makes everyone hate her, who terrifies the rest.

Just remember, John Podesta's email made this crystal clear: she hand-picked her opposition through her media ties. She picked Donald Trump!!!! Because they were confident Trump could not win. But poll after poll showed he could beat Hillary, who is the most hated politician in America. And so, on so many levels, Hillary is the reason Trump is in the Oval Office

For that alone, she should get life the death penalty.

I will always blame Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and poor dumb white trash for the ugly polarized mess America is in today. And it was all intentional. Fuck all of these people. The GOP has blood on they're hands.

You are hilarious, R95.

She emailed uranium to Benghazi! That's treason!

Impeach Hillary now!

R95 = Milo.

For God's sake, we've already answered that question here just a week ago!

Behold, all of Hillary's transgressions:

R97 you! are astute!

Thanks R100 I laughed and cried a little xD

[quote]...Gennifer Flowers ...

Totally unrelated, but I truly hate when parents spell their children's names wrong.

Gennifer/Ginnifer is one of the most annoying imo, but I also really hate director Rian Johnson's first name, which should be pronounced "Ree-ann" like his stupid cunt parents obviously wanted!

[quote]My best friend's parents were both brainwashed by FB trash -- and we're in Canada. They kept talking about how Hillary was planning to start a war with Russia which would lead to WW3.

OMFG, my friend believes the exact same thing, and we're in Canada, too!

But he's not on Facebook, he can barely even use a computer, so I dunno how the hell he got so brainwashed.

When you decide something is brainwashing, how do you make that decision? Is it just that it contradicts what your friends say? Do you ever actually do any research? Serious question. Do DLers just always go with group-think?

I'd be interested in the converse. What accomplishments are Hillary-supporters proudest of?

Oh R105, other than resume puff, you'll never get an answer on that one.

For starters, OP she... And don't forget when she...and she and Bill were planning to... Well, she did!

Don't just blame the deplorables for eviscerating her. The regressive left did a real snow job on her. I hope Bernie Sanders rots in hell for his slash-and-burn attacks on her and whipping his base into a hateful frenzy. A lot of my so-called liberal friends wrote in Bernie's name or voted for Jill Stein on election day.

The irony is the regressive leftists who voted against Hillary are the biggest fucking loudmouths attacking Trump. I usually just keep my mouth shut and accept that fact that she lost because this fucking country treated a remarkably talented, admirable and qualified woman like a dung heap.

[quote] Mark Zuckerberg needs to face the music over this, he must have been aware of what was going on. The above posters are right, Facebook played a large part in turning the gullible against her.

I flagged and reported many FB posts spreading these lies about Comet Pizza. Anyone with half a brain could see those were dangerous lies. They never found anything in violation or objectionable. I'm sure I wasn't alone in reporting these moronic and defamatory posts. Zuckerberg was well aware how FB was being used. He did nothing. Then the shooting occurred. A horrible attack on a neighbor. Inexcusable and unforgivable. I hope this joker enjoys prison time.

Just scroll back on Facebook feeds down to 2016. That is all the research you need. You can literally see the brainwashing happening.

How did she do that r46. Please specify.

[quote] Don't just blame the deplorables for eviscerating her. The regressive left did a real snow job on her. I hope Bernie Sanders rots in hell for his slash-and-burn attacks on her and whipping his base into a hateful frenzy. A lot of my so-called liberal friends wrote in Bernie's name or voted for Jill Stein on election day. The irony is the regressive leftists who voted against Hillary are the biggest fucking loudmouths attacking Trump. I usually just keep my mouth shut and accept that fact that she lost because this fucking country treated a remarkably talented, admirable and qualified woman like a dung heap.

R108, your wise words bear repeating. I don't keep quiet though. I shove it right in their faces. Sorta like potty training a mutt.

r111 her very first move in office was to green light a coup in Honduras against the popular, progressive, democratically elected government. So the brutal, white supremacist junta government took charge, and has worked hand in hand with organized crime syndicates like MS-13 to terrorize, exploit, and slaughter the Honduran people ever since.

You can read all about it, but you'll have to take the initiative, because our media will never talk about it. Because the Deep State and Hillary approved it.

They're even trying to establish "Free Market Zones" in Honduras, with support from the World Bank. These Zones would remove any rule of law, and would be ruled with an iron fist by large corporations with bank support.

They're basically trying to build a sophisticated slave state in Honduras, and they're trying to do the same in Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

And the Honduras military is being trained by the Israelis in how to treat their citizens like Palestinians.

Now Israel and Mexico have begun an official partnership to "develop" Honduras and El Salvador.

Pure evil. And completely unreported.

In Libya Hillary choreographed the Bush Doctrine style regime change, training and arming Al Queda to topple Gaddafi and destroy the entire country.

Gaddafi was trying to create an African Central Bank that would liberate all of Africa from predatory banks like the International Monetary Fund and World Bank.

Now Al Queda has totally destroyed Libya, killed and raped millions, and they run a large scale slavery industry selling Sub-Saharan black Africans who try to get to Europe.

Again, you will never hear this reported in the media.

The battle between Maras gangs in Honduras - On the streets of the world's murder capital

In Honduras, military ‘killing people in the street by the order of corrupt government’

This is how they radicalized them in facebot and YouTube ^^

Anything Hillary has ever touched has turned to shit. Personally or professionally. The only thing she was ever successful at was getting a child rapist out of jail. The SOS job was to be extra padding of the resume to help her for the next election. It is so hysterical that it was one of the major reasons she lost.

Woooo the loonies have invaded the thread. You knew by post 100 they'd show up. Clearly Hillary is the cause of all the evils in the world. I'm sure she's collecting some blood diamonds as we speak.

Hillary fights against gay marriage

I like that R113 gives a youtube video with 3 second snippets as evidence for his claims.

R113, do you know that Libya started as an Arab Spring movement, just like its neighboring country Tunisia. Unlike Tunisia it escalated because Gaddafi didn't want to give in to protesters and rather killed his own people than giving up power. Bernie Sanders BTW voted in favor of regime change in Libya, just like he voted in favor of the Iraq Liberation Act in 89.

For starters, she put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp after he she put the ram in the rama lama ding dong but before she put the bop in the bop shoo bop shoo bop and then she single-handedly put the dip in the dip da dip da dip.

R95, to answer your question, “If you had to point to a single accomplishment HRC could claim in her work for women and children, what would that be?”, it’s CHIP. The Children’s Health Insurance Program. Which she created with bipartisan support after she “fucked up entirely” on health care, as you eloquently put it.

Look. I loathe Donald Trump, but even I am willing to admit that he recently took some very small steps in the right direction regarding gun control.

To say that Hillary deserves life imprisonment or the death penalty (!) is ludicrous.

R122. Just more of the same ol' Hillary, claiming credit when she did nothing.

It appears to have become so much a part of the lore of gay history that Hillary loves gay people all over the world, that she is the patron saint of the gay community. Certainly of DL. But R119's post ought to make it clear: hillary says what she needs to to serve her own interests. What she says on Ellen today has zero impact on what she'll do. Compound that with her intellectual laziness, and you have an absolute horror. Remember her praise of the Reagans at Nancy Reagan's funeral: they were proponents of AIDSresearch, of compassion for AIDS patients?

Meanwhile, the CHIP program, while excellent,.... Well here. You can read about Hillary's role in that legislation.

Hillary is a great fableist. An ignominious talent at best. She is taking the gay community for a ride.

Hillary suffers from bacterial vaginosis. The smell of rotten fish was said to be incredibly by close aids. This is one of the reasons why Bill went off her, he likes to eat pussy but even he couldn’t go there. However Huma, who was thirsty and ambitious, used her cunnilingus skills to climb the greasy pole. This is why Hillary refused to drop her even when she became a liability.

Hillary was Secretary of State. She was not the President. Do you even know how the government works?

Convenient how all the stuff she allegedly did wrong is stuff "you'll never hear about in the mainstream media" With how much attention her emails got I would have thought they'd jump at any opportunity to criticize Hillary.

>> Hillary suffers from bacterial vaginosis. The smell of rotten fish was said to be incredibly by close aids.

That's a lot even for this site. What she DID, to answer the original question, was exist. That was and remains enough, tragically, for the deplorables, who live down to their name with every new airing.

Well she does have a bit of a racist tone to her - she called black people super predators, was fully on board with 3rd strike laws etc. Some of us have a memory you know.

Um, I think you're barking up the wrong side of the aisle., you Trumptard apologist.

I actually think the BernorBusters hate her more than the Trumpets.

A Washington Post story from August 2016 said Hillary Clinton's "favorable rating" among WOMEN was only 45 percent. Why less than half? Do you seriously think it was because the idea of 'women with an opinion' was intolerable to other women? Is that what you think of women as a group? Here is a question: Why did the Democratic Party nominate a candidate with such poor scores regarding likability?

R95 and her ilk need to stop talking that crazy medicine.

These morons always show up everywhere Hillary Clinton's name is mentioned and then they come up with nothing but lies and half truths.

Where is the dirt on the Clintons R95, R113?

Kenneth Starr only could nail Bill because he lied about having sex with Lewinsky. That's all he found during his 3 years of investigation.

Read the link @ R93, Broaddrick is a fucking liar.

Her bizarre, insulting reaction in the interview about that infamous Shelton trial (rape of a minor) was a sign of a functioning psychopath. She chuckled about miscarriages of justice, and said it was a "fascinating case" and "a really interesting case".

If a minor gets raped by an adult and fails to get justice - what normal person would describe it coldly and merrily as a "really interesting case"? Only a functioning psychopath, who doesn't feel compassion for underage crime victims.

What really happened during the Shelton trial.

Her chuckles are recorded on tape, which is publicly available. That's not how a legal professional of sound mind reviews a very sensitive case involving a minor (regardless of the outcome). In reviewing such cases, true professionals maintain a respectful, sombre composure - due to the gravity of the crime. Some lawyers do laugh about forensic errors in past cases - but they're generally labelled psychos after that.

r135 Hillary was probably more anti-women and girls than Trump.

Hillary would still be funding ISIS rape gangs in Syria, to show how tough she is on foreign policy.

Then she'd be trying to start a war with Iran, giddy about how many Iranians were about to get raped.

Just like with Libya, just like with Honduras, just like with Bill's victims, just like with Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein's victims, just like with Harvey Weinstein's victims, just like with that little 12 year old girl Hillary accused of being a little whore, and accused of wanted to get raped by that grown man.

(cackle cackle cackle)

Deplorable alert at R135.

And another deplorable chiming in (twice) at R136.

Hillary Clinton Laughs Uncontrollably During Benghazi Hearing

[quote]Her chuckles are recorded on tape

Read the WaPo article R135. Just like with the Broaddrick case, a lot of people twisted facts to make Clinton look bad.

I am sure both Shelton and Broaddrick were paid big money to support Trump.

Just like Trump's first wife Ivana, she couldn't all of a sudden remember anymore that he raped her once he started running for president.

Read the Washington Post, lol. Like it's not a CIA mouthpiece.

Yeah. Read the Washington Post instead of listening to Cunt Clinton's actual words.

Who are you to know better or more R141?

The WaPo brought down a traitor president before, I am sure you losers sided with Nixon at that time.

No, R137, a deplorable is smn who giggles about the failures of the criminal justice system in a very sensitive case involving a minor.

R140 - you keep referring everyone to a secondary source (an article / second-hand commentary), while ignoring the actual primary source (the actual taped interview with Clinton). No one needs to twist the facts - they're all there recorded on tape.

The issue is not whether she laughed at the victim or at the other side's forensic errors. The issue is a legal professional should not be chuckling AT ALL during their review of a rape case involving a minor.

For instance, Clinton laughed after she said: “Of course he [the defendant] claimed he didn’t [rape]. All this stuff. He took a lie-detector test. I had him take a polygraph, which he passed, which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs.”

...

Reed in an interview published Oct. 12 denied that Clinton was laughing at Shelton. “As far as her laughing, God knows she was not laughing over the notion that this rapist was going to go free," said Reed. “I challenge any fair-minded reader of that transcript to make a case that Hillary Rodham was a coldblooded lawyer who was laughing over the plight of the 12-year-old rape victim."

Again why does it have to be the reader of a transcript when you can actually go and listen to her interview? Why doesn't he just direct people directly to that?

By the way, it’s been confirmed that many bernbot trolls are actually rightwingers sewing discord. And don’t assume they’re Russian bots — we have plenty of home brewed trolls right here in the US of A.

Yeah. Plus don't forget it was a Russian bot laughing about a child getting raped.

The Washington Post talked to 'Reed', the guy who interviewed Clinton about the Shelton case.

She does not laugh about the victim during the interview with Reed, but rather about things like the rapist passing the lie detector test, which as Clinton said was ironic because he did rape Shelton.

Both Clinton and the interviewer, Reed, laugh and chuckle during the interview.

Dee Plorables are too stupid to understand facts and evidence.

"The WaPo brought down a traitor president before"

It was a CIA coup. Bob Woodward was CIA just like the Grahams and Bradlee.

Why do you think Bob Woodward was the official biographer/stenographer for every president after Watergate?

George HW Bush was head of the RNC during the Nixon coup. Bush was a CIA prince, and was running the CIA shortly after the coup.

Why the coup? Because Nixon didn't pick HW Bush to be his Vice President, after all that Prescott Bush had done for Richard Nixon.

Prescott Bush plucked Nixon out of obscurity, made his political career, and got Nixon appointed VP of Eisenhower.

Every president is surrounded by CIA spies in every White House.

WATERGATE REVELATIONS: THE COUP AGAINST NIXON, PART 1 OF 3

r149 Hillary didn't just laugh about getting a guilty child rapist off in court, she also demonized and traumatized the little girl in court, the little girl who got raped by the guy who Hillary KNEW was guilty.

You think you're smart by not caring, but you're just another sociopath like Hillary and the pedophile rapist.

[quote] she called black people super predators . . . Some of us have a memory you know.

No. She called drug dealers who were destroying neighborhoods super predators. As were the community and neighborhood leaders where the drug dealers were operating. And they were all correct. Some of us have a real knowledge and understanding of the facts you know.

Not true R151!

Shelton changed her story numerous times.

It's laughable that you try so desperately to twist facts when they so easily can be exposed as lies.

Regarding the Russ Baker book - it was by several journalists slammed as more fiction than fact.

"Shelton changed her story numerous times.

It's laughable that you try so desperately to twist facts when they so easily can be exposed as lies."

And yet we have audio of Hillary admitting she knew Shelton was raped, and laughing about the guilt of the child rapist.

You know this, of course, you just don't care. Sociopath.

[quote] Hillary didn't just laugh about getting a guilty child rapist off in court, she also demonized and traumatized the little girl in court, the little girl who got raped by the guy who Hillary KNEW was guilty.

What the fuck are you talking about, R151.

The defendant PLED GUILTY. Meaning THERE WAS NO TRIAL. So how did she demonize and traumatize anyone?

And no attorney KNOWS if their client is guilty unless there's a videotape of it. Hell, you can't even know for sure when they plead guilty. Because people lie, even in confessions.

You need to STFU.

it shows that other people, including an expert in child psychology, had said that the complainant was “emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing about persons, claiming they had attacked her body,” and that “children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences.” Clinton therefore asked the court to have the complainant undergo a psychiatric exam (at the defense’s expense) to determine the validity of that information:

[quote] And yet we have audio of Hillary admitting she knew Shelton was raped, and laughing about the guilt of the child rapist.

Again what the fuck are you about, R154?

Hillary was laughing that her client had passed a polygraph test. A laughable event indeed.

You are just intent on twisting the facts aren't you?

And there were factual issues from all the essential witnesses in the case including the victim. That doesn't make a defendant innocent but it compromises the case making it possible to lose and end in an acquittal.

[quote] The Washington Post talked to 'Reed', the guy who interviewed Clinton about the Shelton case.

[quote] Both Clinton and the interviewer, Reed, laugh and chuckle during the interview.

Roy Reed is just covering his own pathetic ass. As a journalist he displayed the same level of unprofessionalism & lack of maturity & respectful compassion as Clinton, egging her on and joining her in the fit of chuckles. If he had publicly agreed that Clinton laughed out of turn when discussing a rape case - he'd be in hot water too, because he can be blamed for doing the same.

There was nothing funny, or even ironic, about this case or its outcome. The criminal justice system fails very often, even in its protection of minors - that's not "interesting" or "fascinating", as Clinton coldly described it. The subpar forensics in this case (accidental destruction of the victim's evidence) were a travesty. That's not a matter to chuckle about.

[quote]And yet we have audio of Hillary admitting she knew Shelton was raped, and laughing about the guilt of the child rapist.

No, R154, this is not what happened.

I love it when your little pathetic stories about what a monster Hillary Clinton is turn out to be total blunder.

You are not smart enough to get away with your stupid shit here, Miss Dee Plorable.

[quote] And no attorney KNOWS if their client is guilty unless there's a videotape of it.

I think that reference was to Clinton's statement that she lost faith in the polygraph test once the guy passed it, r155.

That statement was actually also unprofessional of her. As his lawyer she shouldn't be publicly admitting that she assumed he was guilty as hell. She still has a fiduciary duty to him to keep everything said or implied confidential.

r24 No, it was purely financial. Ali Baba (Cheney) and his forty thieves knew they stood to make billions from a war in Iraq and they did so with their company Halliburton.

Puleeze, R157. You're an idiot with an agenda. Laughing during an interview does not mean you don't take the case seriously. You have no idea what you're talking about. Even in the midst of the murder trial of a child you'll find judges, jurors, both attorneys finding something to smile or laugh about.

Enough with you twisting facts and deliberately misinterpreting people and events. Go fuck yourself.

And yes, R159. She should not have said that. Nor should she have tried to refuse the case. Court appointed attorneys don't have the luxury of picking and choosing clients or cases. You do your job and you do it zealously as the law and your professional responsibility require.

[quote] Even in the midst of the murder trial of a child you'll find judges, jurors, both attorneys finding something to smile or laugh about.

Laughing about civil trials (breach of contract, tax evasion, etc.) - sure. Chuckling about criminal (felony) trials involving MINORS and RAPE - NO, that's horrible behavior. Only psychopaths or immature / emotionally stunted / unprofessional people would do this, R161.

[quote] Nor should she have tried to refuse the case.

I never said anything about refusing the case. You're arguing with yourself.

^And actually true professionals would contain themselves from chuckling (in public interviews) even about civil trials.

Criminal trials often have people / relatives weeping in the stands - it's not exactly the kind of atmosphere you'd giggle about later on.

r160 Dick Cheney's "40 thieves" were mostly Jews, supporting the Iraq War for Israel, not "oil", not Haliburton.

She asked europe to bomb libya after obama refused

Back when she was First Lady of Arkansas, a series of trades in cattle futures netted her over $100,000 on an initial investment of $1,000. With no background or financial expertise in futures or trading.

Travelgate, and hiding a subpoenaed file that later turned up in plain sight in the White House.

Losing the 2016 election.

R163, you are an idiot.

You thought you had something damaging on Hillary and once again is was just another case of a stupid nothing burger.

Funny to watch all these NYC and LA queers fall so head over heals for a First Lady of Arkansas.

OP writes,

[quote][bold]What did Hilary actually do?[/bold] | I know a few right wingers who are always telling me what a monster Hilary Clinton is but they never go into specifics. What are some tangible things that she is proven to have done wrong? I don’t mean all the weird tin hat stuff about her helping Bill Clinton commit rape but actual provable facts.

Not one damn thing- she is not the only one who ok'ed the Iraq invasion (Congress did not decide to invade, rather they gave the power to Bush to do so) and she admitted the war was a mistake. She has not come close to being indicted for one damn thing.

Well she was the only First Lady to be fingerprinted for a criminal investigation. There is that.

Link please, R171. In what context?

From Newsweek: "She is also, according to author Sally Bedell Smith, the first presidential spouse to be subpoenaed. Bill and Hillary Clinton are the first and only first couple to be fingerprinted by the FBI."

The FBI wanted some of her billing records. They disappeared. They were later found somewhere. I can't remember where. Hillary claimed she never saw or examined the records. So they fingerprinted her and guess what? Her fingerprints were all over the records. Helps to have a friendly press. Then of course she said maybe she touched them....

R173, that's what I thought it was going to be about. Trying to make a big deal out of that is ridiculous and just tells me you don't know the day to day workings of such matters. She may not have had a major role handling the files. I can't remember all the files I personally handled or reviewed over the past 30 years - it would depend on my role in the case and who else was working on it. I can't tell you all the case files I personally examined rather than having a paralegal or investigator or co-counsel primarily or completely physically handle.

There was nothing there. But once again bringing up another failed investigation with no results. Once again trying to make something out of politically motivated smear campaign in which Hillary was not found to have done anything illegal.

Today I had to listen to a colleague rail against the Dems for not putting up a good candidate in 2016. Ranting abut how if Bernie had been the candidate he'd be President Sanders now. How if any other repub had run against Hillary she'd have been trounced by at least 10 points. And yes I spoke my mind, though I didn't remind her of what a gullible fool she had been back in 2008 when she was Obama's biggest fan and thought Obama was the best qualified candidate citing his puffed up resume and would do all these things which, of course, he never did. Funny how I came to like Obama as a person and appreciated him though he ended up being exactly the kind of mediocre president I fully expected him to be. And she couldn't stop moaning about how he had so disappointed her. Well then Bernie it is! LOL!

Well you asked me in what context. I gave it to you. She said she never handled the documents. Her fingerprints were on them. You find someway to poo poo it. If it were me or you we would have been in jail for that lie.

On November 19, 1998, Independent Counsel Starr testified before the House Judiciary Committee in connection with the Impeachment of Bill Clinton over charges related to the Lewinsky scandal. Here, for the first time, Starr exonerated both President Clinton and the First Lady of complicity in the FBI files matter, saying "while there are outstanding issues that we are attempting to resolve with respect to one individual [we] found no evidence that anyone higher [than Livingstone or Marceca] was in any way involved in ordering the files from the FBI. Second, we have found no evidence that information contained in the files of former officials was used for an improper purpose."[23] (Starr also chose this occasion to clear President Clinton in the Travelgate matter, and to say that he had not committed impeachable wrongdoing in the Whitewater matter; Democrats on the committee immediately criticized Starr for withholding all these findings until after the 1998 Congressional elections.

[quote]That statement was actually also unprofessional of her. As his lawyer she shouldn't be publicly admitting that she assumed he was guilty as hell. She still has a fiduciary duty to him to keep everything said or implied confidential.

R159, Lordy, I agree. Extremely careless.

Poo Shoes is shitting in this thread.

[quote] She still has a fiduciary duty to him to keep everything said or implied confidential.

We don't use the term "fiduciary duty" in criminal cases. There is an attorney-client confidentiality duty which is governed by Rules of Professional Responsibility. It isn't as simple as keeping "everything said or implied confidential." However lawyers consult other lawyers all the time, especially those within their firm, for professional advice on the case as well as for case post-mortems. One doesn't always identify the client but if you do in a professional consultive discussion then that discussion should go no further. I'm curious how this information even became known. I don't remember all the details but how was what she said a "public statement". You do have to be careful though. Has the client ever complained?

This was so underexposed it's scary. Elsewhere it was reported that "Hillary was pleased with choice o Kroll to audit..." For those who don't now, Kroll, was recently implicated in the Harvey Weinstein cover up.

And yet Bernie is the one who's campaign was aided and abetted by Russians, right R180.

He's the one who refused to sign Russian sanctions last year and in 2012 didn't sign the Magnitsky Act.

She shot the sheriff.

But she didn't shoot no deputy.

This.

and that.

I've wondered what would happened if she died fairly soon. Not out of any hatred for her, but just to see how the deplorables, Pres. Trump, etc. would shit their pants over losing the boogeywoman they clearly depend on.

She wore a yellow Mao Tse Tung jacket after labor day. SHE HAD TO GO!!!!!!!!!

How much does people pay her for her shit speech now? And how much is clinton foundation raking since she lost? 🤣

25K and none.

R186, that would work out really well for her.

Let's face it, she wasn't the warmest, most personable glad hander amongst politicians, but unlike the troll-who-would-be-king, she was more honest than dishonest. The Pubes had engaged in their favorite pastime-personal destruction--when they perceived that she could be a threat in the future. We went from her murdering Vince Foster to Travel Gate to Benghazi without an actual blow being landed, but the group that disdains women, and intelligent women at that, decided that where there is smoke, there is fire. They didn't want to seek the source and the veracity of the rumors; they simply accepted them as true or damning enough to disqualify her. It was the same disinterest that led morons to vote for the troll. The morons believed that they didn't need to consider the background noise about the troll as any more than that. Lazy people do lazy things, and mindless people do mindless things.

She was born.

Maybe she was more honest than dishonest. When your lies are so egregious though that doesn't help much. The corruption didn't help a lot either.

She ate huma pussy

I heard she made a lot of money selling cows.

Hillary stood by her man.

Her positions on most topics were corporatist and simply not very liberal. Bernie supporters were unhappy with Obama for not fighting against Republican obstruction, and Hillary basically slapped them in the face by deliberately aligning herself as "Obama 2.0" to court African American voters. She only came around and gave insincere lip service to liberal positions after being forced to deal with the Sanders campaign's success.

She also obviously felt quite entitled to the presidency. I understand that she was trying to project a strong and capable persona, but it just came off as arrogance like she thought herself above engaging with her opponents in good faith. Meanwhile she was tainted through her associations with the dirty DNC and all of the dirty Wallstreet money that was flooding her campaign. Oh and her behavior regarding the email stuff was completely obstructive and shady the entire time.

She should never have won the nomination. Every poll showed that Sanders would've destroyed Trump.

She thought, "Ok I got Wallstreet, I got the DNC, and the blacks all think I have hotsauce in my purse. How can I possibly lose?"

"Every poll showed that Sanders would've destroyed Trump."

Oh, so now polls 6 months before the election are reliable?

Hillary got her long hair cut short. That was unforgivable.

[quote]What did Hilary actually do?

Not much. She just laid there and thought of how we need one kid to make us look like a real couple. (that one time after we were first married to quote Margaret White.)

sign my at r201

"a former POTUS"

I see the Hillary lovers have no response to criticism from the left except that she was the "lesser of two evils" which is debatable.

Love that the usual suspects are still refighting the 2016 election.

As for OP's question, Hillary's original sin seems to be that she was given a position of great authority (overhauling health care) without ever having been elected or appointed.

JFK made his brother attorney general, but RFK had to be vetted by Congress.

The GOP was handed a gift in that Hillary was put in charge of this very important initiative because she was married to the president and that rubbed many people the wrong way. Everything they smeared her with afterwards stemmed from that.

The fact that she is someone to whom smears stick is also significant--sort of similar to why certain kids are victims of bullies and others can get attacked by the bullying doesn't stick.

There will be many books written. She will not be forgotten.

The only reason we had President Obama was because she was unelectable. Unfortunately, she remained unelectable.

I thought that was consensus R205

That she was the very talented director who tried to put herself in front of the camera and the film flopped, but rather than going back to directing, she tried to star in the sequel and that flopped even worse.

She's more like the TV star that wanted to be a singer.

R206 so hillary is madonna?

She's not as competent at running things as Madonna. So I'll say no.

She was born female.

Are we sure about that?

Husband left da sperm on da toilet seat. I sat down and made the baby.

Husband left da sperm on da toilet seat. I sat down and made the baby.

It's a great question, OP. One that should continue to be answered. It's always good to hear how DL evolves over time.