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Brendan Fraser - ME TOO!!!!!!!!

He says he got his Golden Globes fondled by some dude back in the day

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by Anonymousreply 192March 9, 2018 10:10 PM

A few weeks after that day on set, Fraser calls me. There's something he wants to tell me that he couldn't quite bring himself to relate in London or New York. He's sorry about that, he says—that he didn't have “the courage to speak up for risk of humiliation, or damage to my career.”

Certain pieces of what he tells me have already been told, it turns out—but this is the first time he's ever spoken publicly about any of it. The story he wants to relay took place, he says, in the summer of 2003, in the Beverly Hills Hotel, at a luncheon held by the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, the organization that hosts the Golden Globes. On Fraser's way out of the hotel, he was hailed by Philip Berk, a former president of the HFPA. In the midst of a crowded room, Berk reached out to shake Fraser's hand. Much of what happened next Berk recounted in his memoir and was also reported by Sharon Waxman in The New York Times: He pinched Fraser's ass—in jest, according to Berk. But Fraser says what Berk did was more than a pinch: “His left hand reaches around, grabs my ass cheek, and one of his fingers touches me in the taint. And he starts moving it around.” Fraser says that in this moment he was overcome with panic and fear.

Fraser eventually was able, he says, to remove Berk's hand. “I felt ill. I felt like a little kid. I felt like there was a ball in my throat. I thought I was going to cry.” He rushed out of the room, outside, past a police officer he couldn't quite bring himself to confess to, and then home, where he told his then wife, Afton, what had happened. “I felt like someone had thrown invisible paint on me,” he says now. (In an e-mail, Berk, who is still an HFPA member, disputed Fraser's account: “Mr. Fraser's version is a total fabrication.”)

In the aftermath of the encounter, Fraser thought about making it public. But ultimately, “I didn't want to contend with how that made me feel, or it becoming part of my narrative.” But the memory of what had happened, and the way it made him feel, stuck with him. His reps asked the HFPA for a written apology. Berk acknowledges that he wrote a letter to Fraser about the incident but says, “My apology admitted no wrongdoing, the usual ‘If I've done anything that upset Mr. Fraser, it was not intended and I apologize.’ ”

by Anonymousreply 1February 22, 2018 2:34 PM

According to Fraser, the HFPA also said it would never allow Berk in a room with Fraser again. (Berk denies this, and the HFPA declined to comment for this story.) But still, Fraser says, “I became depressed.” He started telling himself he deserved what had happened to him. “I was blaming myself and I was miserable—because I was saying, ‘This is nothing; this guy reached around and he copped a feel.’ That summer wore on—and I can't remember what I went on to work on next.”

He knows now that people wonder what happened to Brendan Fraser, how he went from a highly visible public figure to practically disappearing in the public mind, and he'd already told me most of it. But this, he says, is the final piece. The experience, he says, “made me retreat. It made me feel reclusive.” He wondered if the HFPA had blacklisted him. “I don't know if this curried disfavor with the group, with the HFPA. But the silence was deafening.” Fraser says he was rarely invited back to the Globes after 2003. Berk denies that the HFPA retaliated against Fraser: “His career declined through no fault of ours.”

Fraser says the experience messed with his sense of “who I was and what I was doing.” Work, he says, “withered on the vine for me. In my mind, at least, something had been taken away from me.” This past fall, he watched other people come forward to talk about similar experiences, he says. “I know Rose [McGowan], I know Ashley [Judd], I know Mira [Sorvino]—I've worked with them. I call them friends in my mind. I haven't spoken to them in years, but they're my friends. I watched this wonderful movement, these people with the courage to say what I didn't have the courage to say.”

He was in a hotel room just weeks ago, watching the Globes on TV, Fraser says, as the actresses wore black and the actors wore Time's Up pins in solidarity, when the broadcast showed Berk in the room. He was there and Fraser was not.

“Am I still frightened? Absolutely. Do I feel like I need to say something? Absolutely. Have I wanted to many, many times? Absolutely. Have I stopped myself? Absolutely.”

On the phone, he breathes deeply. “And maybe I am over-reacting in terms of what the instance was. I just know what my truth is. And it's what I just spoke to you.”

by Anonymousreply 2February 22, 2018 2:34 PM

I love how they have to have a super close up of his face because everything else of him is a disaster.

by Anonymousreply 3February 22, 2018 2:40 PM

Just a question: how many of us see # as pound and thus read "pound metoo?"

by Anonymousreply 4February 22, 2018 2:42 PM

What? Fraser acts like it was a 5 minute molestation...weird? Why didn't he justbpunch the guy? I have thought Crazier was gay for years...Alton wee his beard. She hired herself out as a Hollywood beard. Women do that...it Is a profession.

by Anonymousreply 5February 22, 2018 2:48 PM

12 years ago I was at a pool party. One friend of a friend came over and stuck his hand down my suit and grabbed my dick. I pushed him off, told him to get the fuck off me. He turned white, apologized and left the party. An unpleasant, unwanted encounter for sure but it didn't destroy my life.

by Anonymousreply 6February 22, 2018 2:57 PM

I thought pic in OP was Smeagol.

by Anonymousreply 7February 22, 2018 2:59 PM

I wish people would resist the temptation to share.

by Anonymousreply 8February 22, 2018 3:06 PM

Didn't people here used to say he was partnered with Afton's brother, and their marriage was just a cover?

by Anonymousreply 9February 22, 2018 3:08 PM

r9 -- No.

by Anonymousreply 10February 22, 2018 3:10 PM

In order to thrive and survive in Hollywood, you have to be tough as nails. You don't star in major movies if you're not able to stand up for yourself and take rejection. A guy grabbed his butt. Big fucking deal! I have had my ass and dick grabbed countless times. You remove the hand and say "please don't do that." End of story. Why is it so fucking hard for these people to do the simplest thing? Are they just using that as a lame excuse as to why their career fizzled; they were too distraught?!? It is such complete bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 11February 22, 2018 3:11 PM

Because it's easier to rewrite one's narrative through the lens of abuse than to just own the fact that people get old, become out of fashion, and then become obsolete. Fame is obscurity biding its time -- carrie fisher

by Anonymousreply 12February 22, 2018 3:15 PM

Why can’t people push people away or move away? I’m a guy and I’ve been grabbed before and pushed someone’a hand away or moved to get away from them completely. People who stand there and take it and spend the rest of eternity feeling dirty and molested are being melodramatic IMO

by Anonymousreply 13February 22, 2018 3:15 PM

r6

Because secretly you enjoyed it.

by Anonymousreply 14February 22, 2018 3:15 PM

Is that is, Brendan? Sad you would even bring it up.

by Anonymousreply 15February 22, 2018 3:19 PM

Sexual assault is a bit different when the perp is a powerful industry figure

by Anonymousreply 16February 22, 2018 3:29 PM

Philip Berk with Jane Fonda

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by Anonymousreply 17February 22, 2018 3:43 PM

A career destroyed.

A life destroyed by the touch of a hand.

by Anonymousreply 18February 22, 2018 3:45 PM

How could Brendan have said no to this ?

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by Anonymousreply 19February 22, 2018 3:46 PM

Bedford? I suppose he could have tea with glennie

by Anonymousreply 20February 22, 2018 3:52 PM

2003 would be 2 years after the second Mummy movie. Fraser very close to his prime. If I thought I could get away with it I would have copped a feel too

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by Anonymousreply 21February 22, 2018 3:58 PM

Did the clutching hand enter the taint from the front? Or the back?

Was there the element of surprise?

by Anonymousreply 22February 22, 2018 4:01 PM

Wuss. Get over it. Jeeze.

by Anonymousreply 23February 22, 2018 4:07 PM

[quote]People who stand there and take it and spend the rest of eternity feeling dirty and molested are being melodramatic IMO

Male privilege defined in one sentence.

by Anonymousreply 24February 22, 2018 4:08 PM

I wouldn't have washed that hand for a little while. And I'm surprised it only happened once. Brenan didn't stay in that kind of shape, but in the late 90s early 2000s he was easily one of the sexiest men alive.

by Anonymousreply 25February 22, 2018 4:10 PM

This incident happened when Fraser was a 34 year old movie star and the perpetrator was an old creep connected to the fucking Golden Globes. It's gross and shitty and shouldn't have happened but COME THE FUCK ON.

by Anonymousreply 26February 22, 2018 4:11 PM

Whoever said he is embracing this "trauma" as en excuse for why his career went into decline nailed it.

by Anonymousreply 27February 22, 2018 4:15 PM

I generally don't think isolated groupings like this are the biggest problem or what #MeToo is focusing on. More systemic coerced sexual acts like what Weinstein was doing. I was gropped at a concert the summer after I graduated college. I didn't love that that happened but I also don't think it traumatized me or anything

by Anonymousreply 28February 22, 2018 4:17 PM

I really didn't have to see such a close close-up

by Anonymousreply 29February 22, 2018 4:17 PM

groping*

by Anonymousreply 30February 22, 2018 4:18 PM

How did they grope you, R28? Was it done violently or caressingly?

Did you have send thoughts about responding?

by Anonymousreply 31February 22, 2018 4:19 PM

If every gay man that was ever grabbed by a troll was talking about it and demanding justice the internet would implode.

by Anonymousreply 32February 22, 2018 4:19 PM

Terry miller went to the cops for fucks sake for getting his crotch grabbed! These guys are reaching for straws. They want part of this metoo craze.

by Anonymousreply 33February 22, 2018 4:22 PM

Agree with R32

R31 I wouldn't call it violent, just sudden. It was when I was walking back to the parking lot. Middle age dude squeezed my ass and then darted off. More than feeling upset I was just extremely confused. Didn't really process it till I got back to my car. So no real chance to respond.

by Anonymousreply 34February 22, 2018 4:23 PM

I think many of you are missing the point.

Walking away from the troll was one thing; it's the fact that these power merchants will then ruin you for not having gone along with their lusts.

by Anonymousreply 35February 22, 2018 4:24 PM

[quote] But Fraser says what Berk did was more than a pinch: “His left hand reaches around, grabs my ass cheek, and one of his fingers touches me in the taint. And he starts moving it around.”

Taint misbehavin!

by Anonymousreply 36February 22, 2018 4:26 PM

Did Brendan "go along" with it? It seems like it was over pretty quickly.

by Anonymousreply 37February 22, 2018 4:27 PM

For the above jackasses who had someone feel them up at a concert, a party or where ever and didn't mind it, SHUT THE FUCK UP

You losers probably liked it. People with barely any self esteem are appreciative of any attention - even sexual harassment. You're all pathetic. If it was your boss , a client or someone else in a work setting you might feel differently. Although, you losers might enjoy that too.

If it's no big deal, you probably wouldn't mind someone doing this to your mom, sister or nieces.

by Anonymousreply 38February 22, 2018 4:31 PM

I didn't like it, R38, and never said anything about how I "didn't mind it". But not liking something in and of itself does not make it traumatic. Many bad things happen in our lifetimes and we get over them. A stranger groping you is not equivalent to rape or your boss making you screw him to keep you job.

And as has been elaborated above. One off incidents are different from systemic recurring coerced things.

by Anonymousreply 39February 22, 2018 4:35 PM

I'm glad he named names.

by Anonymousreply 40February 22, 2018 4:37 PM

Exactly - equating some old creep grabbing you once to what many have endured systemically is insulting. It also undermines the real problem and dilutes it because people start dismissing the entire problem as manufactured bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 41February 22, 2018 4:42 PM

What part of getting groped by [bold]SOMEBODY WITH CONTROL OVER YOUR FUCKING CAREER[/bold] is unclear to you idiots??

by Anonymousreply 42February 22, 2018 4:43 PM

On his taint!

by Anonymousreply 43February 22, 2018 4:45 PM

R6 People like that are weird. If he apologized obviously he wasn't a total asshole, but how did it occur to him to do that at the first place anyway?

by Anonymousreply 44February 22, 2018 4:48 PM

Those must have been some very thin pants.

by Anonymousreply 45February 22, 2018 4:50 PM

#MeMeMetoo!

by Anonymousreply 46February 22, 2018 4:51 PM

[quote] SOMEBODY WITH CONTROL OVER YOUR FUCKING CAREER

The head of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association?? When that year you're established as one of the biggest box office stars in Hollywood? I don't think so, honey.

by Anonymousreply 47February 22, 2018 4:52 PM

R45 he was asking for it! Showing that tight ass off

by Anonymousreply 48February 22, 2018 4:52 PM

At least he doesn't have to worry about getting groped nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 49February 22, 2018 4:53 PM

R38, In high school a guy grabbed me and I really did like it a lot. Then he stared to see my reaction and I just stared back. I always thought he was hot anyways. I wanted to grab his right back but I was afraid people would see and I'd get in trouble. I wish I would've made more of an effort to speak to him afterwards. He is supposedly straight, though.

by Anonymousreply 50February 22, 2018 4:54 PM

[quote] For the above jackasses who had someone feel them up at a concert, a party or where ever and didn't mind it, SHUT THE FUCK UP You losers probably liked it. People with barely any self esteem are appreciative of any attention - even sexual harassment. You're all pathetic.

Wow, you are really helping people with self-esteem problems!

by Anonymousreply 51February 22, 2018 4:54 PM

[quote] Terry miller went to the cops for fucks sake for getting his crotch grabbed!

I think you mean Terry Crews.

Terry Miller wouldn't mind having his crotch grabbed by anyone.

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by Anonymousreply 52February 22, 2018 4:58 PM

A guy grabbed me too.

We were in our twenties on a beach away from everywhere. We were both in royal blue nylon speedos and he suggesting running the length of the sand before entering the surf.

I had the habit of deliberately leaving the draw-sting undrawn. As we turned at the end of the beach he grabbed the back of my speedo pulling it down and exposed both cheeks.

And then . . .

by Anonymousreply 53February 22, 2018 5:01 PM

[quote] And then . . .

... you slapped him and shouted, "FRESH!"??

by Anonymousreply 54February 22, 2018 5:06 PM

R9 Yes, that indeed was the story.

by Anonymousreply 55February 22, 2018 5:22 PM

R44 Alcohol

by Anonymousreply 56February 22, 2018 5:38 PM

I wanted to fondle him in "Gods and Monsters."

by Anonymousreply 57February 22, 2018 5:41 PM

More "woe is me". Just a note to these actors... jumping on #metoo still wont revive your careers. BTW the HFPA isnt wrecking any careers. But AMPAS definitely will.

by Anonymousreply 58February 22, 2018 5:42 PM

Was discussed on another thread recently so apologies! But George of the Jungle is how I realized I was gay as a kid. I had had sexual attraction to men before. But not enough to intense to really identify what I was feeling until this movie. Was probably among the first 2 or 3 things I ever jerked off to as well

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by Anonymousreply 59February 22, 2018 5:46 PM

R9 the gay rumors have been around a long time. River Phoenix talked about sleeping with one of young actors in Dogfight (supposedly to prepare for My Own Private Idaho, though he was clearly bisexual). The guess was always Brendan Fraser.

by Anonymousreply 60February 22, 2018 5:53 PM

How dare you, r59 -- jerking off to someone is thought-crime sexual assault

by Anonymousreply 61February 22, 2018 5:53 PM

[quote] A guy grabbed his butt. Big fucking deal!

Datalounge is very pro sexual assault, I've noticed, except on those "all women are evil":threads where suddenly half the people here were assaulted by frauen at a bar or female relatives and it's ruined their life.

Very Reddit-y around here sometimes.

by Anonymousreply 62February 22, 2018 5:56 PM

What a great article. Fraser seems like a really decent guy.

by Anonymousreply 63February 22, 2018 6:15 PM

I think some people want us to react to Every story of sexual misconduct as if it were violent rape. And react with maximum outrage in every incident. I don't think that's reasonable.

People who don't think what happened is a big deal have laid out a standard for what kinds of harassment is worse than others.

People on the other side are just using as hominem attacks. Tells you all you need to know

by Anonymousreply 64February 22, 2018 6:38 PM

I do not feel I have to feel maximum outrage at every incident.

I am, however, gratified that people now feel as though discussing sexual assault and harassment is no longer to be avoided.

It doesn't mean that I feel the need to read all of their experiences, but it is a real step forward that they can speak up without fear of retribution.

by Anonymousreply 65February 22, 2018 6:43 PM

R55 (and R60) - Thanks for confirming that those rumors had been around. (R10 made me think I was losing my mind.)

by Anonymousreply 66February 22, 2018 6:50 PM

r65 I was sexually harassed as a male model in the 1980s (yes, it goes with the territory) and tortured growing up gay by the "bully boys." I can tell you from my experience the bullying was worse than the sexual harassment.

by Anonymousreply 67February 22, 2018 6:50 PM

R67

I would imagine; at least with the former you were an adult.

by Anonymousreply 68February 22, 2018 6:52 PM

If he stuck his finger in Brendan's taint, that old troll has terrible aim.

by Anonymousreply 69February 22, 2018 6:53 PM

Just finished the article and realized that once again most of you guys are fucking idiots.

He says repeatedly, something like five times, that the assault was just one part of a complicated series of reasons why he stopped working so much. He even says he knows it's not on the same level as other assaults recently reported by others.

The dumbing-down of DL is really depressing.

by Anonymousreply 70February 22, 2018 7:24 PM

R24 yes because it is perfectly ok when gay men get assaulted. If anything men are much less likely to report sexual crimes due to lack of sympathy.

by Anonymousreply 71February 22, 2018 7:28 PM

r70 You're the idiot. An assault is an assault whether it was made against a man or a woman.

by Anonymousreply 72February 22, 2018 7:30 PM

R70 There's only one or two posters who have fallen into hysterics over this. Most people on this thread have reacted pretty reasonably too it. Calmly like Fraser his self has been. Ignore the few loud voices screaming about how this it was the crime of the century

by Anonymousreply 73February 22, 2018 7:36 PM

I never said otherwise, r72. Learn how to follow a conversation.

All these "he just wants attention and it wasn't that bad anyway" comments are being made by idiots who didn't even read the article.

by Anonymousreply 74February 22, 2018 7:36 PM

There was a sex film, often shown on Cinemax back in the day, called Wild Orchid II: Two Shades of Blue (1991). The star was a guy named Brent Fraser who was a dead ringer at the time for Brendan. (The picture below is from 6 years later but you can still see the resemblance.) I think they're not related and it's just a bizarre coincidence.

Later there was a news report that Brendan had a brother who is homeless but I don't think it's this guy.

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by Anonymousreply 75February 22, 2018 7:38 PM

w74 Like you, he's a loser looking for attention. I'm sure your life is as dead as his career.

by Anonymousreply 76February 22, 2018 7:39 PM

r74 Like you, he's a loser looking for attention. I'm sure your life is as dead as his career.

by Anonymousreply 77February 22, 2018 7:39 PM

I notice OP also omitted the paragraphs which made it more obvious that this was a real incident, that it was part of a larger series of problems Fraser was dealing with, etc.

But the OP deliberately not quoting those parts doesn't explain the pure hatred from so many here who just want to scream that assault is no big deal and that Fraser is a bad person for bringing this up at all. It's crazy. How did you get so broken?

by Anonymousreply 78February 22, 2018 7:42 PM

Only people here screaming are ones accusing us of not being angry enough. It's fine for anyone to talk about anything. But this wasn't a huge deal, as Brendan himself admits. Just many angry fraus on here who want this to be the next Weinstein moment

by Anonymousreply 79February 22, 2018 7:46 PM

r78 Didn't you know all gay men are made of china.

by Anonymousreply 80February 22, 2018 7:47 PM

r79 What?????? I guess there's grain of logic in there somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 81February 22, 2018 7:52 PM

It's just not R81. Sucks to get groped randomly when you're minding your business, but not something that messes you up for years. I don't even think about the time it happened to me unless someone brings stuff like this up.

by Anonymousreply 82February 22, 2018 7:54 PM

R75 Brendan isn't really a nice person. I never liked him much about hearing about the homeless brother.

Here's an article from the National Enquirer though the story was on the Extra or Inside Edition type shows at the time.

Brendan Fraser's riding high with his new movie "The Mummy" while his brother Regan is down and out, broke and homeless -- and he says the Hollywood hunk won't lift a finger to help him.

But Regan candidly admits he's had problems with his whole family.

"I've hit rock bottom and my brother is a superstar, yet he acts like I'm not even alive," declared older brother Regan, 35, in an exclusive ENQUIRER interview.

"I don't have enough money to buy food and I sleep on park benches in the seediest part of Hollywood while Brendan is living like a king only a few miles away.

"I never thought Brendan would turn his back on his own flesh and blood. But that's just what he's done -- and he's broken my heart."

Regan, the third of four children, grew up in Canada and Europe with the 30-year-old "George of the Jungle" star and says "since we were kids Brendan and I were best friends. We did everything together.

"Later I was in the audience at every one of his college plays. I cheered him on when nobody else knew who Brendan Fraser was!

"And no one was prouder of Brendan when he made a name for himself as a Hollywood star.

"But the more successful Brendan became, the more my family looked down on me for not being more like him -- especially my father.

"I graduated from the University of Washington with a degree in psychology and a minor in French. Still my father always compared my success to Brendan's.

"My father and I have never seen eye to eye. One fight with Dad got so out of control and violent, my parents brought a restraining order against me so I can't see them anymore.

"Another altercation with a former landlord and her daughter also resulted in a restraining order and a criminal telephone harassment charge. I spent almost three weeks in jail for it.

"As Brendan's popularity grew and he became a bigger star, he grew more and more distant from me, too.

"Then he cut his ties with me completely. I guess he was embarrassed or ashamed. Maybe he thought I couldn't hold my own with his new, rich Hollywood pals.

"The final blow came last September when Brendan married Afton Smith. "Brendan and Afton sent invitations to hundreds of friends and all our family, but I wasn't on the guest list.

"Meanwhile my situation was getting worse. I thought maybe Brendan would help me out of my slump.

"Since I no longer had his phone number or address I went to the public library in Hollywood a few weeks ago and sent him an e-mail. I called his Hollywood representatives and begged them to get a message to my brother.

"But I never heard back from him.

"His representatives told me he's gotten my messages so I know he knows I'm here. Obviously he doesn't want any part of me."

Brendan Fraser had no comment about his relationship with his brother.

Regan added: "These days I sleep wherever I can find a place to lay my head.

"And whenever I see a shiny stretch limousine in Hollywood, I can't help wonder if Brendan is sitting behind the tinted glass, laughing at me."

by Anonymousreply 83February 22, 2018 8:03 PM

r82

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by Anonymousreply 84February 22, 2018 8:07 PM

Well, multiple restraining orders means he's violent. Would you want him at your wedding?

And he probably has drug problems, which means you can't give him any money. Much like Madonna's brother, the sibling should have just rented a trailer for them and had groceries dropped off every week.

by Anonymousreply 85February 22, 2018 8:08 PM

I just hope you realize R84 You seem like a fool, making a bigger deal out of this than Fraser is making. But clearly you must know him best!

by Anonymousreply 86February 22, 2018 8:11 PM

To handle the situation instead of screaming rape and hiring Gloria Allred because some troll grabbed your ass once is NOT tantamount to denying there is a legit issue overall that needs to be addressed. Some people think unless ever issue is treated as a huge scandal there’s something wrong with the victim.

I used to be a teacher and there were parents that contact the media before calling the school when certain issues occurred. There are levels of escalation when addressing any issue. Unfortunately nowadays a public virtual execution on Twitter seems to be everyone’s way to handle things.

by Anonymousreply 87February 22, 2018 8:19 PM

r86 I do. I fucked him back in '96.

by Anonymousreply 88February 22, 2018 8:23 PM

So R85, you're saying a cold cunt like Madonna is more caring about her family than Brendan?

You have no idea why he's allegedly violent. Could be an unmedicated mental patient.

I love the story in the GQ article about all the trouble and expense he went through to adopt a horse in Mexico and FLY it to NY. But not a penny for his brother.

Sorry, not a nice guy.

by Anonymousreply 89February 22, 2018 8:23 PM

"He says repeatedly, something like five times, that the assault was just one part of a complicated series of reasons why he stopped working so much."

There's nothing "complicated" about why "he stopped working so much." He lost his looks and kept making shitty movie after shitty movie; that's why his career tanked. And he's saying somebody touching his' "taint" had something to do with it? Bullshit! He just wants to jump on the MeToo bandwagon. You can get lots of publicity that way and evidently he sorely needs some.

by Anonymousreply 90February 22, 2018 8:42 PM

[quote]BTW the HFPA isnt wrecking any careers. But AMPAS definitely will.

Tell me about it!

by Anonymousreply 91February 22, 2018 8:42 PM

[quote]There's nothing "complicated" about why "he stopped working so much." He lost his looks and kept making shitty movie after shitty movie; that's why his career tanked.

Bingo. He also lost his hair early and apparently uses Travolta's wigmaker.

by Anonymousreply 92February 22, 2018 8:50 PM

Making shitty movies has NOTHING to do with it. Look at Zac Efron. That's a train-wreck of a filmography if there ever was one but his looks keep him afloat.

by Anonymousreply 93February 22, 2018 8:56 PM

[quote] You have no idea why he's allegedly violent.

[quote] I love the story in the GQ article about all the trouble and expense he went through to adopt a horse in Mexico and FLY it to NY. But not a penny for his brother.

The other Fraser brother is apparently at the computer lab in the library...

by Anonymousreply 94February 22, 2018 9:05 PM

[R9] - Yes.

by Anonymousreply 95February 22, 2018 9:06 PM

Philip Berk with la Kevin Spacey.

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by Anonymousreply 96February 22, 2018 9:11 PM

OK, i was half expecting that, R94. But if I were Brendan Fraser's brother I'm sure I'd have juicer stories to tell than just quoting a 1999 Enquirer article.

I'm sure the brother knows BF loves sucking cock and eating ass.

by Anonymousreply 97February 22, 2018 9:22 PM

he could sit his hot fat ass on my face any ole dam time....

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by Anonymousreply 98February 22, 2018 9:29 PM

If only he had changed it to #MeNeither every time the seconds were served.

by Anonymousreply 99February 22, 2018 10:05 PM

As I recall there were a lot of gay rumors about Brendan Fraser back in his glory days. His wife was a big titted bleached blonde; after they divorced she sued to get more money but his excuse was that he didn't have any more money, he was broke. I notice this article doesn't mention any new love interest. I always wondered if his big titted wife was just a beard.

by Anonymousreply 100February 22, 2018 11:32 PM

THis is to set him up as a victim when there are probably a dozen guys who will say Brendan Fraser molested tehm.

by Anonymousreply 101February 22, 2018 11:34 PM

He ditched his violent brother and was friendly to a horse? Good for him.

by Anonymousreply 102February 22, 2018 11:56 PM

Brendan? Show us on your taint where the man touched you.

by Anonymousreply 103February 22, 2018 11:58 PM

Is that Det. Olivia Benson @R103?

by Anonymousreply 104February 22, 2018 11:59 PM

God the dye job on that old man - THAT is the real crime. How do you even get that color?

by Anonymousreply 105February 23, 2018 12:06 AM

He won a Golden Globe?

by Anonymousreply 106February 23, 2018 1:11 AM

This is Brendan in 2003. A little bit past his prime, not much past, but you can see the decline starting.

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by Anonymousreply 107February 23, 2018 1:22 AM

Wow, he has the look of taint-touched victim in that pic

by Anonymousreply 108February 23, 2018 1:26 AM

Another nice Jewish boy?

by Anonymousreply 109February 23, 2018 6:16 AM

SO WHAT Brendan. If someone touched me I would say get of me and that would be that. What a manbaby who obviously wants attention.

by Anonymousreply 110February 23, 2018 6:21 AM

and those saying he's not making a big thing of this, read the article.

"it messed with who I was and what I was doing"

Well who WERE you and WHAT were you doing? You mean what MOST actors do? Sell their bodies for the job?

And its not that the assault seems to be the big issue here for him but the long term effects he felt on his career: that he was blacklisted for demanding a written apology.

"work withered on the vine for me. In my mind something had been taken away from me" (Brendon on his walk back from the bathroom mirror)

by Anonymousreply 111February 23, 2018 8:12 AM

The people who ask why he didn't do anything to stop it, and that if it were them, they would've done this or that, blah blah blah really are part of the problem.

Assault is always a surprise that results in shock and confusion, and a very normal reaction to such an unexpected, unthinkable act is to just freeze up, "shut down," and then maybe carry on like nothing wrong happened (possibly as a defense mechanism). It's like your mind just draws a blank and can't compute the experience. And then later the person ends up kicking themselves and wondering why they didn't respond differently.

Happened to me once, and no I wasn't traumatized for life or anything (I was angry, but just chalked it up to a bad experience and forgot about it shortly afterwards) but yeah, my whole point here is just to say fuck off with the "Well, why didn't they just...?" Kind of thinking.

by Anonymousreply 112February 23, 2018 8:34 AM

R112, I was assaulted by a doctor in his office and I was so taken aback by what a sleazebag he was that I was rendered temporarily speechless. I didn't tell anyone until much later, and then I got hit with all the 'why didn't you' and 'you should have' which just made me regret disclosing it.

by Anonymousreply 113February 23, 2018 9:02 AM

I would have fucked Berk's veneers right out of his head!

by Anonymousreply 114February 23, 2018 9:14 AM

A little help, please? I'm having trouble visualizing how this incident actually happened. I'm not saying I don't believe Brendan Fraser. Obviously, something inappropriate and unwanted happened. However, his story is a bit weird. For instance, how does someone so quickly and easily get to a guy's taint enough to move a finger around in the taint, when they are both fully dressed, standing, shaking hands, facing each other, and in a public event when the taint is unwilling. Am I missing something here? Or, maybe, the abuser was some kind of a taint whisperer?

by Anonymousreply 115February 23, 2018 9:25 AM

r113

We know what happened to you Rose

by Anonymousreply 116February 23, 2018 9:45 AM

Shaking my head at him and Terry Crews, I think they are both overreacting

by Anonymousreply 117February 23, 2018 9:45 AM

Brendan's three minute touching abuse isn't as bad as the three months of verbal abuse I get here.

by Anonymousreply 118February 23, 2018 10:14 AM

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by Anonymousreply 119February 23, 2018 11:23 AM

Sure, surprise anal is all fun and games until it happens to you!

by Anonymousreply 120February 23, 2018 11:48 AM

You are missing the point. Brandon is trying to say harrasment happens to men too. Or I am desperately seeking any attention I can get.

by Anonymousreply 121February 23, 2018 2:07 PM

I don't think it was the only one experience after it he felt so bad. It's the only one he speaks about. He was probably groped many times but can't say that because that would suggest Hollywood is EVIL.

by Anonymousreply 122February 23, 2018 5:28 PM

I like him

he seems ike a terrific guy

and he has that dad bod Iove

love to fuk his thick arse

by Anonymousreply 123February 23, 2018 10:40 PM

[quote] and he has that dad bod Iove

He left the "dad bod" stage about 70lbs ago.

by Anonymousreply 124February 23, 2018 10:42 PM

I believe Brendan, but his assault is not the reason why he didn't act for all those years. He didn't act because his phone didn't ring.

I support metoo wholeheartedly, but its obvious that we're at the stage where people are trying to capitalize off it.

By the way, Hollywood has had tons of creeps for over 80 years. The naive have finally caught up to what many of us already knew.

by Anonymousreply 125February 24, 2018 12:06 AM

I don't think people understand how capricious even a successful acting career is, and how paranoid actors are.

BF believed that this guy was going to screw up his career, just as "Heavy" put a damper on Mira's (and others') careers. BF thought he was on the blacklist (which we all know does exist) because he 1. refused an advance 2. asked for an apology. So when he went through a dry patch, he didn't think of it as a dry patch, he thought his career was over. To someone as sensitive as an actor, what you believe can be devastating--it can make you lose heart, it can make you stop trying, stop practicing, stop taking classes, stop going to auditions.

All the guys on this thread telling us about "living through" sexual advances not made by someone with any power over their careers are missing the point.

by Anonymousreply 126February 24, 2018 1:38 AM

[113] {113} details please. I have had some weird dr stuff too.

by Anonymousreply 127February 24, 2018 2:45 AM

r19

He looks like a combed and fancy Larry Fine there.

by Anonymousreply 128February 24, 2018 3:03 AM

[quote]By the way, Hollywood has had tons of creeps for over 80 years.

I haven't the slightest idea what you mean.

by Anonymousreply 129February 24, 2018 3:03 AM

Mr. Berk sure gets around.

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by Anonymousreply 130February 24, 2018 3:04 AM

And here.

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by Anonymousreply 131February 24, 2018 3:05 AM

And here.

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by Anonymousreply 132February 24, 2018 3:05 AM

And Brad.

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by Anonymousreply 133February 24, 2018 3:06 AM

And of course.

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by Anonymousreply 134February 24, 2018 3:07 AM

Berk wrote about this year's ago, long before #metoo, which makes me tend to believe his version.

[quote]Berk writes that at an HFPA installation event, he and other members were talking to actor Brendan Fraser, who had just presented a check representing the group’s charitable donation to FilmAid International.

[quote]In the course of the conversation, writes Berk, he asked Fraser about a rumor that at the Golden Globes the prior year he had pinched the female HFPA president. To demonstrate, Berk said that he then pinched Fraser’s butt.

[quote]Fraser’s response, according to Berk, was, “He pinched my ass” or “He touched my bod.”

[quote]Berk thought it was all a joke until the HFPA got a letter from the star’s publicist threatening legal action against him personally and against the association. So Berk wrote the actor a letter of apology.

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by Anonymousreply 135February 24, 2018 8:12 AM

Maybe now the screaming queens on here going on about how Fraser was emotionally damaged by assault will calm down

by Anonymousreply 136February 24, 2018 9:04 AM

It's the reason he got fat.

by Anonymousreply 137February 24, 2018 9:07 AM

Pssssssttttttttttt gay boys, even though it may be your ultimate fantasy, straight boys don't appreciate completely unknown men feeling them up and grabbing their genitals. They feel violated and have a right to feel that way. I'm sure you would just laugh it off if a Roseanne Barr looking type woman walked up and just stuck her hand down your pants.

by Anonymousreply 138February 24, 2018 10:21 AM

IDK if he really was blacklisted or not, but if you think about it, it really was odd how he just seemed to fall of the face of the Earth so soon after the Mummy films (the peak of his career). If you check his filmography, two years after The Mummy Returns he has an uncredited cameo and voice work for some Looney Tunes movie, WTH? Even more confusingly, if you look up pictures of him from 2005 he was still pretty fuckable, so despite his tendency towards weight gain and hairloss he was still cleaning up pretty good.

I had always assumed that his career's decline was due to substance abuse, or some other issue within his family/marriage. In so many pictures, he looks like he's dying inside.

by Anonymousreply 139February 24, 2018 11:21 AM

I thought he disappeared because he lost his hair. Very sorry to hear about what happened to him. Lots of people with anxiety and depression really do fall apart after something like this grope happens - it just crumbles any artifice of self confidence they had. I feel for him and am happy he is back - I always liked him.

by Anonymousreply 140February 24, 2018 11:47 AM

He himself says the reason he left movies wasn't because of the groping you unhinged suburban fraus. Peron that gropes me was male but old and fat and a complete stranger. It's jarring for sure but you sound like a child acting like it scars you for life I was over it the next day.

by Anonymousreply 141February 24, 2018 12:01 PM

I love Brendan Fraser, but that article made me sad. Who knew he was so quiveringly sensitive? I don't just mean about the groping; it just sounds like he's very intelligent but melancholy and self-doubting, and finds it hard to handle any setback.

I feel for him, but even having read the whole interview---and thus the groping incident in context---I'm kind of flabbergasted by how huge a brief, one-off instance of sexual assault can loom in some men's minds (e.g., Fraser and Terry Crews), and how easily most people write off much, much worse abuse that women withstand. It's like we're expected to take it and get past it. BF got a little taste of that and it derailed him, but women in Hollywood get manhandled and traumatized as a matter of course. I can't think a time a female star talked about an incident this slight as something that haunted her for years.

by Anonymousreply 142February 24, 2018 12:40 PM

Not even just celebrities R142 two of my closest female friends say they've been gropped in clubs. Obviously both hated it and thought it was gross, neither had mental breakdowns over it. And even Fraser isn't saying it derailed his career. Just his over zealous fans on here insist a one off groping requires years on intense therapy

by Anonymousreply 143February 24, 2018 12:44 PM

No, he's not saying it derailed his career, but the way he brought it up after a break of a few weeks as something he had to get off his chest, "that he couldn't quite bring himself to relate in London or New York. He's sorry about that, he says—that he didn't have 'the courage to speak up for risk of humiliation, or damage to my career'”... that says that it's a huge deal to him still. His account ends with more drama about it: *** “Am I still frightened? Absolutely. Do I feel like I need to say something? Absolutely. Have I wanted to many, many times? Absolutely. Have I stopped myself? Absolutely.”

On the phone, he breathes deeply. “And maybe I am over-reacting in terms of what the instance was. I just know what my truth is. And it's what I just spoke to you.”

by Anonymousreply 144February 24, 2018 12:52 PM

Sorry, some of my paragraph breaks didn't work.

No, he's not saying it derailed his career, but the way he brought it up after a break of a few weeks as something he had to get off his chest, "that he couldn't quite bring himself to relate in London or New York. He's sorry about that, he says—that he didn't have 'the courage to speak up for risk of humiliation, or damage to my career'”... that says that it's a huge deal to him still. His account ends with more drama about it:

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“Am I still frightened? Absolutely. Do I feel like I need to say something? Absolutely. Have I wanted to many, many times? Absolutely. Have I stopped myself? Absolutely.”

On the phone, he breathes deeply. “And maybe I am over-reacting in terms of what the instance was. I just know what my truth is. And it's what I just spoke to you.”

by Anonymousreply 145February 24, 2018 12:53 PM

But #metoo does not care because their agenda only works if every man is a secret rapist.

by Anonymousreply 146February 24, 2018 1:04 PM

R142: I think it is because heterosexual males never have to imagine themselves in a position of being a sexual object dominated by a more important man. It is just different for women and gay men because male attention is something we are more comfortable with - obviously when we seek it out. But it never, ever enters straight guys minds that someone wants to push them down and fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 147February 24, 2018 1:09 PM

[quope] I can't think a time a female star talked about an incident this slight as something that haunted her for years.

You're joking, right, R142?

by Anonymousreply 148February 24, 2018 1:48 PM

You're a piece of shit R148. Most of those accusations are years, sometimes decades of sustained harassment. And beyond harassment, rape. And in a situation that's difficult to escape.

by Anonymousreply 149February 24, 2018 1:51 PM

No, not "most," R148, only a few. The VAST majority are like Brendan's.

by Anonymousreply 150February 24, 2018 1:54 PM

TRAUMATIZED? You should have sniffed my finger after it was in Fraser's taint. I couldn't get the smell off no matter how much I washed. It had to wear off.

You want to find traumatized film industry members, go talk to any of the wardrobe workers on pictures he appeared in. Skid marks are NOT pleasant to deal with.

by Anonymousreply 151February 24, 2018 2:24 PM

R146, stop bashing the metoo movement when most of the hate towards male accusers is coming from gay guys like the ones on this board

by Anonymousreply 152February 24, 2018 2:41 PM

R60 - I always thought River Phoenix was referring to Anthony Clarke, not Brendan Fraser.

by Anonymousreply 153February 24, 2018 2:57 PM

He's one of those fat, balding/graying guys who still think they're kinda hawt.

by Anonymousreply 154February 24, 2018 3:01 PM

Years ago not year's ago.

Damn autocorrect.

BTW, if you read the article I linked, this was written about in the NY Times at the time it happened. So Fraser wouldn't have had to "get it off his chest" if the journalist writing about him was more thorough.

And for the record, I don't think #metoo is only for women. I sympathize with Anthony Rapp. But this reminds me of Johnathon Schaech's "rape": A cry for attention by a forgotten actor.

by Anonymousreply 155February 24, 2018 6:29 PM

R155 I don't even blame Fraser much for that. His misguided fans are the ones blowing this up. He tried to down play it after he said it and made clear this was far from what many victims deal with.

by Anonymousreply 156February 24, 2018 6:41 PM

Brendan Fraser was a much bigger star - and much better actor - than Jonathan Schaech.

by Anonymousreply 157February 24, 2018 11:44 PM

I wonder if Fraser has been checked for Graves disease. The way his eyes are bulging now is a warning sign.

by Anonymousreply 158February 25, 2018 12:48 AM

I think they've always been like that, R158.

by Anonymousreply 159February 25, 2018 1:09 AM

Berk at r19 looks like an elderly midwestern haus frau. I am a big guy but I probably would not have hit him either. Berk looks old and frail.

Brendan Fraser has been a favorite of mine for a long time. I hope the best for him is yet to come.

by Anonymousreply 160February 25, 2018 1:40 AM

R160 The best for him has long since passed by. It's now "Regrets and Rentboys" - the name of his biography, written after he commits suicide in a couple of years.

by Anonymousreply 161February 25, 2018 2:34 AM

How sad. He had it all and now it makes me wonder if there is any hope for any of us.

by Anonymousreply 162February 25, 2018 2:37 AM

[quote] To someone as sensitive as an actor, what you believe can be devastating--

And I thought I had it rough!!

by Anonymousreply 163February 25, 2018 2:39 AM

R140 Heath Ledger's anxiety and depression about his losing his hair drove hm to suicide.

His lucrative career was doomed.

by Anonymousreply 164February 25, 2018 2:59 AM

Until it happens to you how Can anyone know how they will react. I was also groped and molested as a young teenage boy. I told some people but they just said "oh he wouldn't do anything like that." So I never said anything about it again. I'm heavyset, I don't know if that's because of what happened. But I can understand him not saying anything, because look how many in here don't believe him or saying why didn't he hit him. When it's happening you shut down or in shock. You just can't believe it's happening to you. I never thought of hitting the man who did this to me. When it was over I just wanted to get away from him. I think those that have negative things to say should thank God it never had happened to them.

by Anonymousreply 165February 25, 2018 6:22 AM

I don't think a singe poster on here has said they don't believe him

by Anonymousreply 166February 25, 2018 10:39 AM

He was a 35-year old movie star, R165.

by Anonymousreply 167February 25, 2018 11:26 AM

r119 has been triggered

by Anonymousreply 168February 26, 2018 3:09 AM

r132 that picture nails it

by Anonymousreply 169February 26, 2018 3:12 AM

[quote]“Am I still frightened? Absolutely. Do I feel like I need to say something? Absolutely. Have I wanted to many, many times? Absolutely. Have I stopped myself? Absolutely.”

Is Fraser a thirsty pain in the ass? Absolutely.

by Anonymousreply 170February 26, 2018 3:52 AM

If everyone believes him then why are they questioning what he did or didn't do?

by Anonymousreply 171February 26, 2018 4:05 AM

Oh, Christ, every time I've went to The Spike in the 80s and 90s O got my ass grabbed or smacked a few times. If it wasn't a guy I knew I'd just remove their hand and give them the back off" look. I never thought about it much if ever because I'm not a fragile straight white guy falls apart when anything he can't control happens!

by Anonymousreply 172February 26, 2018 4:16 AM

Did Fraser ever consider his looks going down the tubes was the biggest contributor to the phone stopping ringing?

by Anonymousreply 173February 26, 2018 6:32 AM

r164 is that true or were you joking?

by Anonymousreply 174February 26, 2018 6:37 AM

And the shitheads lead another chorus of "It's the victim's fault!" Because deplorables are going to be deplorable.

by Anonymousreply 175February 26, 2018 6:45 AM

Sad about his medical problems and autistic son. That has to be difficult to deal with.

by Anonymousreply 176February 26, 2018 7:09 AM

Oh another "autistic." Why can't he just admit his son is stupid.

by Anonymousreply 177February 26, 2018 7:22 AM

I said Alton was looking to be a Hollywood wife of a gay actor. It can be a nice life.

by Anonymousreply 178February 26, 2018 7:31 AM

[quote]I don't think a singe poster on here has said they don't believe him

It's been public knowledge for years that something happened. An ass pinch or taint touch is what's being debated.

Read R135 and the follow-up at R155.

by Anonymousreply 179February 27, 2018 10:48 PM

People are only blacklisted for being difficult and that usually means drugs (Judy Garland) or being at total bitch (Carroll Baker,)

by Anonymousreply 180February 27, 2018 10:58 PM

He should have punched the guys face, or at least threatened to do it. Then go home and drink some beer. Yeah, it is unpleasant, it makes you upset but to blame some grappling as something capable of destroying a career or your life it's a bit of a stretch.

by Anonymousreply 181February 27, 2018 11:05 PM

Fraser bending Dominic Cooper over in "The Affair" was hot.

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by Anonymousreply 182March 4, 2018 1:33 AM

He seems a bit simple

by Anonymousreply 183March 6, 2018 1:47 PM

He looks like someone's fondling his baubles in OP's photo.

by Anonymousreply 184March 6, 2018 1:49 PM

[quote]You don't star in major movies if you're not able to stand up for yourself and take rejection. A guy grabbed his butt. Big fucking deal! I have had my ass and dick grabbed countless times.

And what major movies did you star in, R11?

by Anonymousreply 185March 6, 2018 1:56 PM

r12 That quote should be etched over the door of every gay bar and club in every major city in the country.

by Anonymousreply 186March 6, 2018 2:56 PM

From 2005:

[quote]Keram knows the name of the young man Brendan Fraser had a fling with during the filming of "School Ties," and how he panicked and married a woman when the young man tried to get back in touch with him following his success in "The Mummy."

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by Anonymousreply 187March 8, 2018 3:33 PM

Not that weird, lots of guys have messed around with other guys in a fling here or there. It actually might not have meant much to Brendan.

by Anonymousreply 188March 8, 2018 3:35 PM

[quote]Taint misbehavin! —Fats Waller

LMAO

by Anonymousreply 189March 8, 2018 11:54 PM

Does he have Graves' disease?

by Anonymousreply 190March 9, 2018 9:43 PM

Brendan is beginning to look like Roger Ebert. Not aging well at all.

by Anonymousreply 191March 9, 2018 9:48 PM

R182, Dominic WEST

by Anonymousreply 192March 9, 2018 10:10 PM
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