He says he got his Golden Globes fondled by some dude back in the day
A few weeks after that day on set, Fraser calls me. There's something he wants to tell me that he couldn't quite bring himself to relate in London or New York. He's sorry about that, he says—that he didn't have “the courage to speak up for risk of humiliation, or damage to my career.”
Certain pieces of what he tells me have already been told, it turns out—but this is the first time he's ever spoken publicly about any of it. The story he wants to relay took place, he says, in the summer of 2003, in the Beverly Hills Hotel, at a luncheon held by the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, the organization that hosts the Golden Globes. On Fraser's way out of the hotel, he was hailed by Philip Berk, a former president of the HFPA. In the midst of a crowded room, Berk reached out to shake Fraser's hand. Much of what happened next Berk recounted in his memoir and was also reported by Sharon Waxman in The New York Times: He pinched Fraser's ass—in jest, according to Berk. But Fraser says what Berk did was more than a pinch: “His left hand reaches around, grabs my ass cheek, and one of his fingers touches me in the taint. And he starts moving it around.” Fraser says that in this moment he was overcome with panic and fear.
Fraser eventually was able, he says, to remove Berk's hand. “I felt ill. I felt like a little kid. I felt like there was a ball in my throat. I thought I was going to cry.” He rushed out of the room, outside, past a police officer he couldn't quite bring himself to confess to, and then home, where he told his then wife, Afton, what had happened. “I felt like someone had thrown invisible paint on me,” he says now. (In an e-mail, Berk, who is still an HFPA member, disputed Fraser's account: “Mr. Fraser's version is a total fabrication.”)
In the aftermath of the encounter, Fraser thought about making it public. But ultimately, “I didn't want to contend with how that made me feel, or it becoming part of my narrative.” But the memory of what had happened, and the way it made him feel, stuck with him. His reps asked the HFPA for a written apology. Berk acknowledges that he wrote a letter to Fraser about the incident but says, “My apology admitted no wrongdoing, the usual ‘If I've done anything that upset Mr. Fraser, it was not intended and I apologize.’ ”
by Anonymous | reply 1 | February 22, 2018 2:34 PM |
According to Fraser, the HFPA also said it would never allow Berk in a room with Fraser again. (Berk denies this, and the HFPA declined to comment for this story.) But still, Fraser says, “I became depressed.” He started telling himself he deserved what had happened to him. “I was blaming myself and I was miserable—because I was saying, ‘This is nothing; this guy reached around and he copped a feel.’ That summer wore on—and I can't remember what I went on to work on next.”
He knows now that people wonder what happened to Brendan Fraser, how he went from a highly visible public figure to practically disappearing in the public mind, and he'd already told me most of it. But this, he says, is the final piece. The experience, he says, “made me retreat. It made me feel reclusive.” He wondered if the HFPA had blacklisted him. “I don't know if this curried disfavor with the group, with the HFPA. But the silence was deafening.” Fraser says he was rarely invited back to the Globes after 2003. Berk denies that the HFPA retaliated against Fraser: “His career declined through no fault of ours.”
Fraser says the experience messed with his sense of “who I was and what I was doing.” Work, he says, “withered on the vine for me. In my mind, at least, something had been taken away from me.” This past fall, he watched other people come forward to talk about similar experiences, he says. “I know Rose [McGowan], I know Ashley [Judd], I know Mira [Sorvino]—I've worked with them. I call them friends in my mind. I haven't spoken to them in years, but they're my friends. I watched this wonderful movement, these people with the courage to say what I didn't have the courage to say.”
He was in a hotel room just weeks ago, watching the Globes on TV, Fraser says, as the actresses wore black and the actors wore Time's Up pins in solidarity, when the broadcast showed Berk in the room. He was there and Fraser was not.
“Am I still frightened? Absolutely. Do I feel like I need to say something? Absolutely. Have I wanted to many, many times? Absolutely. Have I stopped myself? Absolutely.”
On the phone, he breathes deeply. “And maybe I am over-reacting in terms of what the instance was. I just know what my truth is. And it's what I just spoke to you.”
by Anonymous | reply 2 | February 22, 2018 2:34 PM |
I love how they have to have a super close up of his face because everything else of him is a disaster.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | February 22, 2018 2:40 PM |
Just a question: how many of us see # as pound and thus read "pound metoo?"
by Anonymous | reply 4 | February 22, 2018 2:42 PM |
What? Fraser acts like it was a 5 minute molestation...weird? Why didn't he justbpunch the guy? I have thought Crazier was gay for years...Alton wee his beard. She hired herself out as a Hollywood beard. Women do that...it Is a profession.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | February 22, 2018 2:48 PM |
12 years ago I was at a pool party. One friend of a friend came over and stuck his hand down my suit and grabbed my dick. I pushed him off, told him to get the fuck off me. He turned white, apologized and left the party. An unpleasant, unwanted encounter for sure but it didn't destroy my life.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | February 22, 2018 2:57 PM |
I thought pic in OP was Smeagol.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | February 22, 2018 2:59 PM |
I wish people would resist the temptation to share.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | February 22, 2018 3:06 PM |
Didn't people here used to say he was partnered with Afton's brother, and their marriage was just a cover?
by Anonymous | reply 9 | February 22, 2018 3:08 PM |
r9 -- No.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | February 22, 2018 3:10 PM |
In order to thrive and survive in Hollywood, you have to be tough as nails. You don't star in major movies if you're not able to stand up for yourself and take rejection. A guy grabbed his butt. Big fucking deal! I have had my ass and dick grabbed countless times. You remove the hand and say "please don't do that." End of story. Why is it so fucking hard for these people to do the simplest thing? Are they just using that as a lame excuse as to why their career fizzled; they were too distraught?!? It is such complete bullshit.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | February 22, 2018 3:11 PM |
Because it's easier to rewrite one's narrative through the lens of abuse than to just own the fact that people get old, become out of fashion, and then become obsolete. Fame is obscurity biding its time -- carrie fisher
by Anonymous | reply 12 | February 22, 2018 3:15 PM |
Why can’t people push people away or move away? I’m a guy and I’ve been grabbed before and pushed someone’a hand away or moved to get away from them completely. People who stand there and take it and spend the rest of eternity feeling dirty and molested are being melodramatic IMO
by Anonymous | reply 13 | February 22, 2018 3:15 PM |
r6
Because secretly you enjoyed it.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | February 22, 2018 3:15 PM |
Is that is, Brendan? Sad you would even bring it up.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | February 22, 2018 3:19 PM |
Sexual assault is a bit different when the perp is a powerful industry figure
by Anonymous | reply 16 | February 22, 2018 3:29 PM |
A career destroyed.
A life destroyed by the touch of a hand.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | February 22, 2018 3:45 PM |
Bedford? I suppose he could have tea with glennie
by Anonymous | reply 20 | February 22, 2018 3:52 PM |
2003 would be 2 years after the second Mummy movie. Fraser very close to his prime. If I thought I could get away with it I would have copped a feel too
by Anonymous | reply 21 | February 22, 2018 3:58 PM |
Did the clutching hand enter the taint from the front? Or the back?
Was there the element of surprise?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | February 22, 2018 4:01 PM |
Wuss. Get over it. Jeeze.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | February 22, 2018 4:07 PM |
[quote]People who stand there and take it and spend the rest of eternity feeling dirty and molested are being melodramatic IMO
Male privilege defined in one sentence.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | February 22, 2018 4:08 PM |
I wouldn't have washed that hand for a little while. And I'm surprised it only happened once. Brenan didn't stay in that kind of shape, but in the late 90s early 2000s he was easily one of the sexiest men alive.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | February 22, 2018 4:10 PM |
This incident happened when Fraser was a 34 year old movie star and the perpetrator was an old creep connected to the fucking Golden Globes. It's gross and shitty and shouldn't have happened but COME THE FUCK ON.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | February 22, 2018 4:11 PM |
Whoever said he is embracing this "trauma" as en excuse for why his career went into decline nailed it.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | February 22, 2018 4:15 PM |
I generally don't think isolated groupings like this are the biggest problem or what #MeToo is focusing on. More systemic coerced sexual acts like what Weinstein was doing. I was gropped at a concert the summer after I graduated college. I didn't love that that happened but I also don't think it traumatized me or anything
by Anonymous | reply 28 | February 22, 2018 4:17 PM |
I really didn't have to see such a close close-up
by Anonymous | reply 29 | February 22, 2018 4:17 PM |
groping*
by Anonymous | reply 30 | February 22, 2018 4:18 PM |
How did they grope you, R28? Was it done violently or caressingly?
Did you have send thoughts about responding?
by Anonymous | reply 31 | February 22, 2018 4:19 PM |
If every gay man that was ever grabbed by a troll was talking about it and demanding justice the internet would implode.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | February 22, 2018 4:19 PM |
Terry miller went to the cops for fucks sake for getting his crotch grabbed! These guys are reaching for straws. They want part of this metoo craze.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | February 22, 2018 4:22 PM |
Agree with R32
R31 I wouldn't call it violent, just sudden. It was when I was walking back to the parking lot. Middle age dude squeezed my ass and then darted off. More than feeling upset I was just extremely confused. Didn't really process it till I got back to my car. So no real chance to respond.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | February 22, 2018 4:23 PM |
I think many of you are missing the point.
Walking away from the troll was one thing; it's the fact that these power merchants will then ruin you for not having gone along with their lusts.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | February 22, 2018 4:24 PM |
[quote] But Fraser says what Berk did was more than a pinch: “His left hand reaches around, grabs my ass cheek, and one of his fingers touches me in the taint. And he starts moving it around.”
Taint misbehavin!
by Anonymous | reply 36 | February 22, 2018 4:26 PM |
Did Brendan "go along" with it? It seems like it was over pretty quickly.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | February 22, 2018 4:27 PM |
For the above jackasses who had someone feel them up at a concert, a party or where ever and didn't mind it, SHUT THE FUCK UP
You losers probably liked it. People with barely any self esteem are appreciative of any attention - even sexual harassment. You're all pathetic. If it was your boss , a client or someone else in a work setting you might feel differently. Although, you losers might enjoy that too.
If it's no big deal, you probably wouldn't mind someone doing this to your mom, sister or nieces.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | February 22, 2018 4:31 PM |
I didn't like it, R38, and never said anything about how I "didn't mind it". But not liking something in and of itself does not make it traumatic. Many bad things happen in our lifetimes and we get over them. A stranger groping you is not equivalent to rape or your boss making you screw him to keep you job.
And as has been elaborated above. One off incidents are different from systemic recurring coerced things.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | February 22, 2018 4:35 PM |
I'm glad he named names.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | February 22, 2018 4:37 PM |
Exactly - equating some old creep grabbing you once to what many have endured systemically is insulting. It also undermines the real problem and dilutes it because people start dismissing the entire problem as manufactured bullshit.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | February 22, 2018 4:42 PM |
What part of getting groped by [bold]SOMEBODY WITH CONTROL OVER YOUR FUCKING CAREER[/bold] is unclear to you idiots??
by Anonymous | reply 42 | February 22, 2018 4:43 PM |
On his taint!
by Anonymous | reply 43 | February 22, 2018 4:45 PM |
R6 People like that are weird. If he apologized obviously he wasn't a total asshole, but how did it occur to him to do that at the first place anyway?
by Anonymous | reply 44 | February 22, 2018 4:48 PM |
Those must have been some very thin pants.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | February 22, 2018 4:50 PM |
#MeMeMetoo!
by Anonymous | reply 46 | February 22, 2018 4:51 PM |
[quote] SOMEBODY WITH CONTROL OVER YOUR FUCKING CAREER
The head of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association?? When that year you're established as one of the biggest box office stars in Hollywood? I don't think so, honey.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | February 22, 2018 4:52 PM |
R45 he was asking for it! Showing that tight ass off
by Anonymous | reply 48 | February 22, 2018 4:52 PM |
At least he doesn't have to worry about getting groped nowadays.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | February 22, 2018 4:53 PM |
R38, In high school a guy grabbed me and I really did like it a lot. Then he stared to see my reaction and I just stared back. I always thought he was hot anyways. I wanted to grab his right back but I was afraid people would see and I'd get in trouble. I wish I would've made more of an effort to speak to him afterwards. He is supposedly straight, though.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | February 22, 2018 4:54 PM |
[quote] For the above jackasses who had someone feel them up at a concert, a party or where ever and didn't mind it, SHUT THE FUCK UP You losers probably liked it. People with barely any self esteem are appreciative of any attention - even sexual harassment. You're all pathetic.
Wow, you are really helping people with self-esteem problems!
by Anonymous | reply 51 | February 22, 2018 4:54 PM |
[quote] Terry miller went to the cops for fucks sake for getting his crotch grabbed!
I think you mean Terry Crews.
Terry Miller wouldn't mind having his crotch grabbed by anyone.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | February 22, 2018 4:58 PM |
A guy grabbed me too.
We were in our twenties on a beach away from everywhere. We were both in royal blue nylon speedos and he suggesting running the length of the sand before entering the surf.
I had the habit of deliberately leaving the draw-sting undrawn. As we turned at the end of the beach he grabbed the back of my speedo pulling it down and exposed both cheeks.
And then . . .
by Anonymous | reply 53 | February 22, 2018 5:01 PM |
[quote] And then . . .
... you slapped him and shouted, "FRESH!"??
by Anonymous | reply 54 | February 22, 2018 5:06 PM |
R9 Yes, that indeed was the story.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | February 22, 2018 5:22 PM |
R44 Alcohol
by Anonymous | reply 56 | February 22, 2018 5:38 PM |
I wanted to fondle him in "Gods and Monsters."
by Anonymous | reply 57 | February 22, 2018 5:41 PM |
More "woe is me". Just a note to these actors... jumping on #metoo still wont revive your careers. BTW the HFPA isnt wrecking any careers. But AMPAS definitely will.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | February 22, 2018 5:42 PM |
Was discussed on another thread recently so apologies! But George of the Jungle is how I realized I was gay as a kid. I had had sexual attraction to men before. But not enough to intense to really identify what I was feeling until this movie. Was probably among the first 2 or 3 things I ever jerked off to as well
by Anonymous | reply 59 | February 22, 2018 5:46 PM |
R9 the gay rumors have been around a long time. River Phoenix talked about sleeping with one of young actors in Dogfight (supposedly to prepare for My Own Private Idaho, though he was clearly bisexual). The guess was always Brendan Fraser.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | February 22, 2018 5:53 PM |
How dare you, r59 -- jerking off to someone is thought-crime sexual assault
by Anonymous | reply 61 | February 22, 2018 5:53 PM |
[quote] A guy grabbed his butt. Big fucking deal!
Datalounge is very pro sexual assault, I've noticed, except on those "all women are evil":threads where suddenly half the people here were assaulted by frauen at a bar or female relatives and it's ruined their life.
Very Reddit-y around here sometimes.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | February 22, 2018 5:56 PM |
What a great article. Fraser seems like a really decent guy.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | February 22, 2018 6:15 PM |
I think some people want us to react to Every story of sexual misconduct as if it were violent rape. And react with maximum outrage in every incident. I don't think that's reasonable.
People who don't think what happened is a big deal have laid out a standard for what kinds of harassment is worse than others.
People on the other side are just using as hominem attacks. Tells you all you need to know
by Anonymous | reply 64 | February 22, 2018 6:38 PM |
I do not feel I have to feel maximum outrage at every incident.
I am, however, gratified that people now feel as though discussing sexual assault and harassment is no longer to be avoided.
It doesn't mean that I feel the need to read all of their experiences, but it is a real step forward that they can speak up without fear of retribution.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | February 22, 2018 6:43 PM |
R55 (and R60) - Thanks for confirming that those rumors had been around. (R10 made me think I was losing my mind.)
by Anonymous | reply 66 | February 22, 2018 6:50 PM |
r65 I was sexually harassed as a male model in the 1980s (yes, it goes with the territory) and tortured growing up gay by the "bully boys." I can tell you from my experience the bullying was worse than the sexual harassment.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | February 22, 2018 6:50 PM |
R67
I would imagine; at least with the former you were an adult.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | February 22, 2018 6:52 PM |
If he stuck his finger in Brendan's taint, that old troll has terrible aim.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | February 22, 2018 6:53 PM |
Just finished the article and realized that once again most of you guys are fucking idiots.
He says repeatedly, something like five times, that the assault was just one part of a complicated series of reasons why he stopped working so much. He even says he knows it's not on the same level as other assaults recently reported by others.
The dumbing-down of DL is really depressing.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | February 22, 2018 7:24 PM |
R24 yes because it is perfectly ok when gay men get assaulted. If anything men are much less likely to report sexual crimes due to lack of sympathy.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | February 22, 2018 7:28 PM |
r70 You're the idiot. An assault is an assault whether it was made against a man or a woman.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | February 22, 2018 7:30 PM |
R70 There's only one or two posters who have fallen into hysterics over this. Most people on this thread have reacted pretty reasonably too it. Calmly like Fraser his self has been. Ignore the few loud voices screaming about how this it was the crime of the century
by Anonymous | reply 73 | February 22, 2018 7:36 PM |
I never said otherwise, r72. Learn how to follow a conversation.
All these "he just wants attention and it wasn't that bad anyway" comments are being made by idiots who didn't even read the article.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | February 22, 2018 7:36 PM |
There was a sex film, often shown on Cinemax back in the day, called Wild Orchid II: Two Shades of Blue (1991). The star was a guy named Brent Fraser who was a dead ringer at the time for Brendan. (The picture below is from 6 years later but you can still see the resemblance.) I think they're not related and it's just a bizarre coincidence.
Later there was a news report that Brendan had a brother who is homeless but I don't think it's this guy.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | February 22, 2018 7:38 PM |
w74 Like you, he's a loser looking for attention. I'm sure your life is as dead as his career.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | February 22, 2018 7:39 PM |
r74 Like you, he's a loser looking for attention. I'm sure your life is as dead as his career.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | February 22, 2018 7:39 PM |
I notice OP also omitted the paragraphs which made it more obvious that this was a real incident, that it was part of a larger series of problems Fraser was dealing with, etc.
But the OP deliberately not quoting those parts doesn't explain the pure hatred from so many here who just want to scream that assault is no big deal and that Fraser is a bad person for bringing this up at all. It's crazy. How did you get so broken?
by Anonymous | reply 78 | February 22, 2018 7:42 PM |
Only people here screaming are ones accusing us of not being angry enough. It's fine for anyone to talk about anything. But this wasn't a huge deal, as Brendan himself admits. Just many angry fraus on here who want this to be the next Weinstein moment
by Anonymous | reply 79 | February 22, 2018 7:46 PM |
r78 Didn't you know all gay men are made of china.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | February 22, 2018 7:47 PM |
r79 What?????? I guess there's grain of logic in there somewhere.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | February 22, 2018 7:52 PM |
It's just not R81. Sucks to get groped randomly when you're minding your business, but not something that messes you up for years. I don't even think about the time it happened to me unless someone brings stuff like this up.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | February 22, 2018 7:54 PM |
R75 Brendan isn't really a nice person. I never liked him much about hearing about the homeless brother.
Here's an article from the National Enquirer though the story was on the Extra or Inside Edition type shows at the time.
Brendan Fraser's riding high with his new movie "The Mummy" while his brother Regan is down and out, broke and homeless -- and he says the Hollywood hunk won't lift a finger to help him.
But Regan candidly admits he's had problems with his whole family.
"I've hit rock bottom and my brother is a superstar, yet he acts like I'm not even alive," declared older brother Regan, 35, in an exclusive ENQUIRER interview.
"I don't have enough money to buy food and I sleep on park benches in the seediest part of Hollywood while Brendan is living like a king only a few miles away.
"I never thought Brendan would turn his back on his own flesh and blood. But that's just what he's done -- and he's broken my heart."
Regan, the third of four children, grew up in Canada and Europe with the 30-year-old "George of the Jungle" star and says "since we were kids Brendan and I were best friends. We did everything together.
"Later I was in the audience at every one of his college plays. I cheered him on when nobody else knew who Brendan Fraser was!
"And no one was prouder of Brendan when he made a name for himself as a Hollywood star.
"But the more successful Brendan became, the more my family looked down on me for not being more like him -- especially my father.
"I graduated from the University of Washington with a degree in psychology and a minor in French. Still my father always compared my success to Brendan's.
"My father and I have never seen eye to eye. One fight with Dad got so out of control and violent, my parents brought a restraining order against me so I can't see them anymore.
"Another altercation with a former landlord and her daughter also resulted in a restraining order and a criminal telephone harassment charge. I spent almost three weeks in jail for it.
"As Brendan's popularity grew and he became a bigger star, he grew more and more distant from me, too.
"Then he cut his ties with me completely. I guess he was embarrassed or ashamed. Maybe he thought I couldn't hold my own with his new, rich Hollywood pals.
"The final blow came last September when Brendan married Afton Smith. "Brendan and Afton sent invitations to hundreds of friends and all our family, but I wasn't on the guest list.
"Meanwhile my situation was getting worse. I thought maybe Brendan would help me out of my slump.
"Since I no longer had his phone number or address I went to the public library in Hollywood a few weeks ago and sent him an e-mail. I called his Hollywood representatives and begged them to get a message to my brother.
"But I never heard back from him.
"His representatives told me he's gotten my messages so I know he knows I'm here. Obviously he doesn't want any part of me."
Brendan Fraser had no comment about his relationship with his brother.
Regan added: "These days I sleep wherever I can find a place to lay my head.
"And whenever I see a shiny stretch limousine in Hollywood, I can't help wonder if Brendan is sitting behind the tinted glass, laughing at me."
by Anonymous | reply 83 | February 22, 2018 8:03 PM |
Well, multiple restraining orders means he's violent. Would you want him at your wedding?
And he probably has drug problems, which means you can't give him any money. Much like Madonna's brother, the sibling should have just rented a trailer for them and had groceries dropped off every week.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | February 22, 2018 8:08 PM |
I just hope you realize R84 You seem like a fool, making a bigger deal out of this than Fraser is making. But clearly you must know him best!
by Anonymous | reply 86 | February 22, 2018 8:11 PM |
To handle the situation instead of screaming rape and hiring Gloria Allred because some troll grabbed your ass once is NOT tantamount to denying there is a legit issue overall that needs to be addressed. Some people think unless ever issue is treated as a huge scandal there’s something wrong with the victim.
I used to be a teacher and there were parents that contact the media before calling the school when certain issues occurred. There are levels of escalation when addressing any issue. Unfortunately nowadays a public virtual execution on Twitter seems to be everyone’s way to handle things.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | February 22, 2018 8:19 PM |
r86 I do. I fucked him back in '96.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | February 22, 2018 8:23 PM |
So R85, you're saying a cold cunt like Madonna is more caring about her family than Brendan?
You have no idea why he's allegedly violent. Could be an unmedicated mental patient.
I love the story in the GQ article about all the trouble and expense he went through to adopt a horse in Mexico and FLY it to NY. But not a penny for his brother.
Sorry, not a nice guy.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | February 22, 2018 8:23 PM |
"He says repeatedly, something like five times, that the assault was just one part of a complicated series of reasons why he stopped working so much."
There's nothing "complicated" about why "he stopped working so much." He lost his looks and kept making shitty movie after shitty movie; that's why his career tanked. And he's saying somebody touching his' "taint" had something to do with it? Bullshit! He just wants to jump on the MeToo bandwagon. You can get lots of publicity that way and evidently he sorely needs some.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | February 22, 2018 8:42 PM |
[quote]BTW the HFPA isnt wrecking any careers. But AMPAS definitely will.
Tell me about it!
by Anonymous | reply 91 | February 22, 2018 8:42 PM |
[quote]There's nothing "complicated" about why "he stopped working so much." He lost his looks and kept making shitty movie after shitty movie; that's why his career tanked.
Bingo. He also lost his hair early and apparently uses Travolta's wigmaker.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | February 22, 2018 8:50 PM |
Making shitty movies has NOTHING to do with it. Look at Zac Efron. That's a train-wreck of a filmography if there ever was one but his looks keep him afloat.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | February 22, 2018 8:56 PM |
[quote] You have no idea why he's allegedly violent.
[quote] I love the story in the GQ article about all the trouble and expense he went through to adopt a horse in Mexico and FLY it to NY. But not a penny for his brother.
The other Fraser brother is apparently at the computer lab in the library...
by Anonymous | reply 94 | February 22, 2018 9:05 PM |
[R9] - Yes.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | February 22, 2018 9:06 PM |
OK, i was half expecting that, R94. But if I were Brendan Fraser's brother I'm sure I'd have juicer stories to tell than just quoting a 1999 Enquirer article.
I'm sure the brother knows BF loves sucking cock and eating ass.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | February 22, 2018 9:22 PM |
he could sit his hot fat ass on my face any ole dam time....
by Anonymous | reply 98 | February 22, 2018 9:29 PM |
If only he had changed it to #MeNeither every time the seconds were served.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | February 22, 2018 10:05 PM |
As I recall there were a lot of gay rumors about Brendan Fraser back in his glory days. His wife was a big titted bleached blonde; after they divorced she sued to get more money but his excuse was that he didn't have any more money, he was broke. I notice this article doesn't mention any new love interest. I always wondered if his big titted wife was just a beard.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | February 22, 2018 11:32 PM |
THis is to set him up as a victim when there are probably a dozen guys who will say Brendan Fraser molested tehm.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | February 22, 2018 11:34 PM |
He ditched his violent brother and was friendly to a horse? Good for him.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | February 22, 2018 11:56 PM |
Brendan? Show us on your taint where the man touched you.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | February 22, 2018 11:58 PM |
Is that Det. Olivia Benson @R103?
by Anonymous | reply 104 | February 22, 2018 11:59 PM |
God the dye job on that old man - THAT is the real crime. How do you even get that color?
by Anonymous | reply 105 | February 23, 2018 12:06 AM |
He won a Golden Globe?
by Anonymous | reply 106 | February 23, 2018 1:11 AM |
This is Brendan in 2003. A little bit past his prime, not much past, but you can see the decline starting.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | February 23, 2018 1:22 AM |
Wow, he has the look of taint-touched victim in that pic
by Anonymous | reply 108 | February 23, 2018 1:26 AM |
Another nice Jewish boy?
by Anonymous | reply 109 | February 23, 2018 6:16 AM |
SO WHAT Brendan. If someone touched me I would say get of me and that would be that. What a manbaby who obviously wants attention.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | February 23, 2018 6:21 AM |
and those saying he's not making a big thing of this, read the article.
"it messed with who I was and what I was doing"
Well who WERE you and WHAT were you doing? You mean what MOST actors do? Sell their bodies for the job?
And its not that the assault seems to be the big issue here for him but the long term effects he felt on his career: that he was blacklisted for demanding a written apology.
"work withered on the vine for me. In my mind something had been taken away from me" (Brendon on his walk back from the bathroom mirror)
by Anonymous | reply 111 | February 23, 2018 8:12 AM |
The people who ask why he didn't do anything to stop it, and that if it were them, they would've done this or that, blah blah blah really are part of the problem.
Assault is always a surprise that results in shock and confusion, and a very normal reaction to such an unexpected, unthinkable act is to just freeze up, "shut down," and then maybe carry on like nothing wrong happened (possibly as a defense mechanism). It's like your mind just draws a blank and can't compute the experience. And then later the person ends up kicking themselves and wondering why they didn't respond differently.
Happened to me once, and no I wasn't traumatized for life or anything (I was angry, but just chalked it up to a bad experience and forgot about it shortly afterwards) but yeah, my whole point here is just to say fuck off with the "Well, why didn't they just...?" Kind of thinking.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | February 23, 2018 8:34 AM |
R112, I was assaulted by a doctor in his office and I was so taken aback by what a sleazebag he was that I was rendered temporarily speechless. I didn't tell anyone until much later, and then I got hit with all the 'why didn't you' and 'you should have' which just made me regret disclosing it.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | February 23, 2018 9:02 AM |
I would have fucked Berk's veneers right out of his head!
by Anonymous | reply 114 | February 23, 2018 9:14 AM |
A little help, please? I'm having trouble visualizing how this incident actually happened. I'm not saying I don't believe Brendan Fraser. Obviously, something inappropriate and unwanted happened. However, his story is a bit weird. For instance, how does someone so quickly and easily get to a guy's taint enough to move a finger around in the taint, when they are both fully dressed, standing, shaking hands, facing each other, and in a public event when the taint is unwilling. Am I missing something here? Or, maybe, the abuser was some kind of a taint whisperer?
by Anonymous | reply 115 | February 23, 2018 9:25 AM |
r113
We know what happened to you Rose
by Anonymous | reply 116 | February 23, 2018 9:45 AM |
Shaking my head at him and Terry Crews, I think they are both overreacting
by Anonymous | reply 117 | February 23, 2018 9:45 AM |
Brendan's three minute touching abuse isn't as bad as the three months of verbal abuse I get here.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | February 23, 2018 10:14 AM |
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by Anonymous | reply 119 | February 23, 2018 11:23 AM |
Sure, surprise anal is all fun and games until it happens to you!
by Anonymous | reply 120 | February 23, 2018 11:48 AM |
You are missing the point. Brandon is trying to say harrasment happens to men too. Or I am desperately seeking any attention I can get.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | February 23, 2018 2:07 PM |
I don't think it was the only one experience after it he felt so bad. It's the only one he speaks about. He was probably groped many times but can't say that because that would suggest Hollywood is EVIL.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | February 23, 2018 5:28 PM |
I like him
he seems ike a terrific guy
and he has that dad bod Iove
love to fuk his thick arse
by Anonymous | reply 123 | February 23, 2018 10:40 PM |
[quote] and he has that dad bod Iove
He left the "dad bod" stage about 70lbs ago.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | February 23, 2018 10:42 PM |
I believe Brendan, but his assault is not the reason why he didn't act for all those years. He didn't act because his phone didn't ring.
I support metoo wholeheartedly, but its obvious that we're at the stage where people are trying to capitalize off it.
By the way, Hollywood has had tons of creeps for over 80 years. The naive have finally caught up to what many of us already knew.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | February 24, 2018 12:06 AM |
I don't think people understand how capricious even a successful acting career is, and how paranoid actors are.
BF believed that this guy was going to screw up his career, just as "Heavy" put a damper on Mira's (and others') careers. BF thought he was on the blacklist (which we all know does exist) because he 1. refused an advance 2. asked for an apology. So when he went through a dry patch, he didn't think of it as a dry patch, he thought his career was over. To someone as sensitive as an actor, what you believe can be devastating--it can make you lose heart, it can make you stop trying, stop practicing, stop taking classes, stop going to auditions.
All the guys on this thread telling us about "living through" sexual advances not made by someone with any power over their careers are missing the point.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | February 24, 2018 1:38 AM |
[113] {113} details please. I have had some weird dr stuff too.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | February 24, 2018 2:45 AM |
r19
He looks like a combed and fancy Larry Fine there.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | February 24, 2018 3:03 AM |
[quote]By the way, Hollywood has had tons of creeps for over 80 years.
I haven't the slightest idea what you mean.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | February 24, 2018 3:03 AM |
Berk wrote about this year's ago, long before #metoo, which makes me tend to believe his version.
[quote]Berk writes that at an HFPA installation event, he and other members were talking to actor Brendan Fraser, who had just presented a check representing the group’s charitable donation to FilmAid International.
[quote]In the course of the conversation, writes Berk, he asked Fraser about a rumor that at the Golden Globes the prior year he had pinched the female HFPA president. To demonstrate, Berk said that he then pinched Fraser’s butt.
[quote]Fraser’s response, according to Berk, was, “He pinched my ass” or “He touched my bod.”
[quote]Berk thought it was all a joke until the HFPA got a letter from the star’s publicist threatening legal action against him personally and against the association. So Berk wrote the actor a letter of apology.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | February 24, 2018 8:12 AM |
Maybe now the screaming queens on here going on about how Fraser was emotionally damaged by assault will calm down
by Anonymous | reply 136 | February 24, 2018 9:04 AM |
It's the reason he got fat.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | February 24, 2018 9:07 AM |
Pssssssttttttttttt gay boys, even though it may be your ultimate fantasy, straight boys don't appreciate completely unknown men feeling them up and grabbing their genitals. They feel violated and have a right to feel that way. I'm sure you would just laugh it off if a Roseanne Barr looking type woman walked up and just stuck her hand down your pants.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | February 24, 2018 10:21 AM |
IDK if he really was blacklisted or not, but if you think about it, it really was odd how he just seemed to fall of the face of the Earth so soon after the Mummy films (the peak of his career). If you check his filmography, two years after The Mummy Returns he has an uncredited cameo and voice work for some Looney Tunes movie, WTH? Even more confusingly, if you look up pictures of him from 2005 he was still pretty fuckable, so despite his tendency towards weight gain and hairloss he was still cleaning up pretty good.
I had always assumed that his career's decline was due to substance abuse, or some other issue within his family/marriage. In so many pictures, he looks like he's dying inside.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | February 24, 2018 11:21 AM |
I thought he disappeared because he lost his hair. Very sorry to hear about what happened to him. Lots of people with anxiety and depression really do fall apart after something like this grope happens - it just crumbles any artifice of self confidence they had. I feel for him and am happy he is back - I always liked him.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | February 24, 2018 11:47 AM |
He himself says the reason he left movies wasn't because of the groping you unhinged suburban fraus. Peron that gropes me was male but old and fat and a complete stranger. It's jarring for sure but you sound like a child acting like it scars you for life I was over it the next day.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | February 24, 2018 12:01 PM |
I love Brendan Fraser, but that article made me sad. Who knew he was so quiveringly sensitive? I don't just mean about the groping; it just sounds like he's very intelligent but melancholy and self-doubting, and finds it hard to handle any setback.
I feel for him, but even having read the whole interview---and thus the groping incident in context---I'm kind of flabbergasted by how huge a brief, one-off instance of sexual assault can loom in some men's minds (e.g., Fraser and Terry Crews), and how easily most people write off much, much worse abuse that women withstand. It's like we're expected to take it and get past it. BF got a little taste of that and it derailed him, but women in Hollywood get manhandled and traumatized as a matter of course. I can't think a time a female star talked about an incident this slight as something that haunted her for years.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | February 24, 2018 12:40 PM |
Not even just celebrities R142 two of my closest female friends say they've been gropped in clubs. Obviously both hated it and thought it was gross, neither had mental breakdowns over it. And even Fraser isn't saying it derailed his career. Just his over zealous fans on here insist a one off groping requires years on intense therapy
by Anonymous | reply 143 | February 24, 2018 12:44 PM |
No, he's not saying it derailed his career, but the way he brought it up after a break of a few weeks as something he had to get off his chest, "that he couldn't quite bring himself to relate in London or New York. He's sorry about that, he says—that he didn't have 'the courage to speak up for risk of humiliation, or damage to my career'”... that says that it's a huge deal to him still. His account ends with more drama about it: *** “Am I still frightened? Absolutely. Do I feel like I need to say something? Absolutely. Have I wanted to many, many times? Absolutely. Have I stopped myself? Absolutely.”
On the phone, he breathes deeply. “And maybe I am over-reacting in terms of what the instance was. I just know what my truth is. And it's what I just spoke to you.”
by Anonymous | reply 144 | February 24, 2018 12:52 PM |
Sorry, some of my paragraph breaks didn't work.
No, he's not saying it derailed his career, but the way he brought it up after a break of a few weeks as something he had to get off his chest, "that he couldn't quite bring himself to relate in London or New York. He's sorry about that, he says—that he didn't have 'the courage to speak up for risk of humiliation, or damage to my career'”... that says that it's a huge deal to him still. His account ends with more drama about it:
***
“Am I still frightened? Absolutely. Do I feel like I need to say something? Absolutely. Have I wanted to many, many times? Absolutely. Have I stopped myself? Absolutely.”
On the phone, he breathes deeply. “And maybe I am over-reacting in terms of what the instance was. I just know what my truth is. And it's what I just spoke to you.”
by Anonymous | reply 145 | February 24, 2018 12:53 PM |
But #metoo does not care because their agenda only works if every man is a secret rapist.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | February 24, 2018 1:04 PM |
R142: I think it is because heterosexual males never have to imagine themselves in a position of being a sexual object dominated by a more important man. It is just different for women and gay men because male attention is something we are more comfortable with - obviously when we seek it out. But it never, ever enters straight guys minds that someone wants to push them down and fuck them.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | February 24, 2018 1:09 PM |
[quope] I can't think a time a female star talked about an incident this slight as something that haunted her for years.
You're joking, right, R142?
by Anonymous | reply 148 | February 24, 2018 1:48 PM |
You're a piece of shit R148. Most of those accusations are years, sometimes decades of sustained harassment. And beyond harassment, rape. And in a situation that's difficult to escape.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | February 24, 2018 1:51 PM |
No, not "most," R148, only a few. The VAST majority are like Brendan's.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | February 24, 2018 1:54 PM |
TRAUMATIZED? You should have sniffed my finger after it was in Fraser's taint. I couldn't get the smell off no matter how much I washed. It had to wear off.
You want to find traumatized film industry members, go talk to any of the wardrobe workers on pictures he appeared in. Skid marks are NOT pleasant to deal with.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | February 24, 2018 2:24 PM |
R146, stop bashing the metoo movement when most of the hate towards male accusers is coming from gay guys like the ones on this board
by Anonymous | reply 152 | February 24, 2018 2:41 PM |
R60 - I always thought River Phoenix was referring to Anthony Clarke, not Brendan Fraser.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | February 24, 2018 2:57 PM |
He's one of those fat, balding/graying guys who still think they're kinda hawt.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | February 24, 2018 3:01 PM |
Years ago not year's ago.
Damn autocorrect.
BTW, if you read the article I linked, this was written about in the NY Times at the time it happened. So Fraser wouldn't have had to "get it off his chest" if the journalist writing about him was more thorough.
And for the record, I don't think #metoo is only for women. I sympathize with Anthony Rapp. But this reminds me of Johnathon Schaech's "rape": A cry for attention by a forgotten actor.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | February 24, 2018 6:29 PM |
R155 I don't even blame Fraser much for that. His misguided fans are the ones blowing this up. He tried to down play it after he said it and made clear this was far from what many victims deal with.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | February 24, 2018 6:41 PM |
Brendan Fraser was a much bigger star - and much better actor - than Jonathan Schaech.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | February 24, 2018 11:44 PM |
I wonder if Fraser has been checked for Graves disease. The way his eyes are bulging now is a warning sign.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | February 25, 2018 12:48 AM |
I think they've always been like that, R158.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | February 25, 2018 1:09 AM |
Berk at r19 looks like an elderly midwestern haus frau. I am a big guy but I probably would not have hit him either. Berk looks old and frail.
Brendan Fraser has been a favorite of mine for a long time. I hope the best for him is yet to come.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | February 25, 2018 1:40 AM |
R160 The best for him has long since passed by. It's now "Regrets and Rentboys" - the name of his biography, written after he commits suicide in a couple of years.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | February 25, 2018 2:34 AM |
How sad. He had it all and now it makes me wonder if there is any hope for any of us.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | February 25, 2018 2:37 AM |
[quote] To someone as sensitive as an actor, what you believe can be devastating--
And I thought I had it rough!!
by Anonymous | reply 163 | February 25, 2018 2:39 AM |
R140 Heath Ledger's anxiety and depression about his losing his hair drove hm to suicide.
His lucrative career was doomed.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | February 25, 2018 2:59 AM |
Until it happens to you how Can anyone know how they will react. I was also groped and molested as a young teenage boy. I told some people but they just said "oh he wouldn't do anything like that." So I never said anything about it again. I'm heavyset, I don't know if that's because of what happened. But I can understand him not saying anything, because look how many in here don't believe him or saying why didn't he hit him. When it's happening you shut down or in shock. You just can't believe it's happening to you. I never thought of hitting the man who did this to me. When it was over I just wanted to get away from him. I think those that have negative things to say should thank God it never had happened to them.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | February 25, 2018 6:22 AM |
I don't think a singe poster on here has said they don't believe him
by Anonymous | reply 166 | February 25, 2018 10:39 AM |
He was a 35-year old movie star, R165.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | February 25, 2018 11:26 AM |
r119 has been triggered
by Anonymous | reply 168 | February 26, 2018 3:09 AM |
r132 that picture nails it
by Anonymous | reply 169 | February 26, 2018 3:12 AM |
[quote]“Am I still frightened? Absolutely. Do I feel like I need to say something? Absolutely. Have I wanted to many, many times? Absolutely. Have I stopped myself? Absolutely.”
Is Fraser a thirsty pain in the ass? Absolutely.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | February 26, 2018 3:52 AM |
If everyone believes him then why are they questioning what he did or didn't do?
by Anonymous | reply 171 | February 26, 2018 4:05 AM |
Oh, Christ, every time I've went to The Spike in the 80s and 90s O got my ass grabbed or smacked a few times. If it wasn't a guy I knew I'd just remove their hand and give them the back off" look. I never thought about it much if ever because I'm not a fragile straight white guy falls apart when anything he can't control happens!
by Anonymous | reply 172 | February 26, 2018 4:16 AM |
Did Fraser ever consider his looks going down the tubes was the biggest contributor to the phone stopping ringing?
by Anonymous | reply 173 | February 26, 2018 6:32 AM |
r164 is that true or were you joking?
by Anonymous | reply 174 | February 26, 2018 6:37 AM |
And the shitheads lead another chorus of "It's the victim's fault!" Because deplorables are going to be deplorable.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | February 26, 2018 6:45 AM |
Sad about his medical problems and autistic son. That has to be difficult to deal with.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | February 26, 2018 7:09 AM |
Oh another "autistic." Why can't he just admit his son is stupid.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | February 26, 2018 7:22 AM |
I said Alton was looking to be a Hollywood wife of a gay actor. It can be a nice life.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | February 26, 2018 7:31 AM |
[quote]I don't think a singe poster on here has said they don't believe him
It's been public knowledge for years that something happened. An ass pinch or taint touch is what's being debated.
Read R135 and the follow-up at R155.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | February 27, 2018 10:48 PM |
People are only blacklisted for being difficult and that usually means drugs (Judy Garland) or being at total bitch (Carroll Baker,)
by Anonymous | reply 180 | February 27, 2018 10:58 PM |
He should have punched the guys face, or at least threatened to do it. Then go home and drink some beer. Yeah, it is unpleasant, it makes you upset but to blame some grappling as something capable of destroying a career or your life it's a bit of a stretch.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | February 27, 2018 11:05 PM |
Fraser bending Dominic Cooper over in "The Affair" was hot.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | March 4, 2018 1:33 AM |
He seems a bit simple
by Anonymous | reply 183 | March 6, 2018 1:47 PM |
He looks like someone's fondling his baubles in OP's photo.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | March 6, 2018 1:49 PM |
[quote]You don't star in major movies if you're not able to stand up for yourself and take rejection. A guy grabbed his butt. Big fucking deal! I have had my ass and dick grabbed countless times.
And what major movies did you star in, R11?
by Anonymous | reply 185 | March 6, 2018 1:56 PM |
r12 That quote should be etched over the door of every gay bar and club in every major city in the country.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | March 6, 2018 2:56 PM |
From 2005:
[quote]Keram knows the name of the young man Brendan Fraser had a fling with during the filming of "School Ties," and how he panicked and married a woman when the young man tried to get back in touch with him following his success in "The Mummy."
by Anonymous | reply 187 | March 8, 2018 3:33 PM |
Not that weird, lots of guys have messed around with other guys in a fling here or there. It actually might not have meant much to Brendan.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | March 8, 2018 3:35 PM |
[quote]Taint misbehavin! —Fats Waller
LMAO
by Anonymous | reply 189 | March 8, 2018 11:54 PM |
Does he have Graves' disease?
by Anonymous | reply 190 | March 9, 2018 9:43 PM |
Brendan is beginning to look like Roger Ebert. Not aging well at all.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | March 9, 2018 9:48 PM |
R182, Dominic WEST
by Anonymous | reply 192 | March 9, 2018 10:10 PM |