Stewie Griffin Will Reveal His Sexuality To Therapist Ian McKellen In Upcoming Episode Of “Family Guy”

They're about a decade late for this

Will they discuss his past obsession about killing his mom?

I remember when this show was funny. Then it came back and wasn't.

Elder gays is not the target audience for this show.

I believe this episode was written especially for Helen Keller.

Correct R4, it's for Millenials who think this and South Park are the height of comedy.

Both shows started over 20 years ago which means their original audiences are late 40s to early 50s. Those aren’t millennial ages, toots.

Took them long enough🙄

If they had wanted to be like real life, Stewie would be told he’s not gay but clearly Trans and be forced to wear female clothes.

Is this Seth’s way of coming out?

They already had an episode of Stewie coming out; at the very end before it cuts off.

Yeah, in flashforwards they showed him to be openly gay. Is this some sort of dig at The Big Bang Theory spin off Young Sheldon?

I think they're doing a send up of "Tootsie" r12.

Reminder that the “Send in Stewie” episode airs tonight, March 18th.

It was meh.

I kept waiting for the pay off from the photo monologue. I expected the therapist to say that the young man was his son or a former patient.

Did another actor do the Yank Stevie voice? It didn’t sound like Seth to me.

Sounded to me like whoever usually does Stewie (Seth) without the fake Brit accent. Show credits had the regulars, and "Also starring Ian McKellen" and "Gary Janetti" who possibly was "Michael" on the answering machine.

I thought the episode was hilarious. The first half was like it was written by and about Dataloungers, especially Stewie's teardown of the therapist.

What was the point of the snot-filled rendition of the Hamilton song?

This show really sucks at "bottle episodes". Though I guess this one was marginally better than that episode where Stewie and Brian were locked in the bank vault. That one somehow managed to be both revolting and boring.

Gary Janetti is the dictionary definition of the jaded, cynical homo, ie, self-loathingz

What was the point of the therapist take-down? What is it supposed to say about Stevie?

Stewie not Stevie

I didn't get the snot thing either

I haven't seen Hamilton but apparently there's a character named Madison that appears to have a bad cold throughout? All I could Google so far.

Wasn't funny. It actually could have used commercials to break up the monotony.

So for those who haven’t seen it do they confirm Stewie is gay?

They didn’t really reveal anything - I think basically they’re going with fluid as it depends week to week what they need for the story. Which is basically how it has always been.

As far as the Hamilton thing, Seth makes no bones about his feelings on modern musical theatre. He thinks it is all garbage and I think that was his own dig at Hamilton.

People still watch this shit? At least King of the Hill was still decent by the time it went off air.

Doesn't work on a show that has zero characterisation and no continuity.

The whole "Stewie will come out" was over-hyped. The biggest "coming out" is that his accent is fake. I thought the show was funny, regardless, and Sir Ian's voice is always delightful to hear.

I was grateful there were no cutaways this time. Those cutaways were what drove me away from the show to begin with. First ep I've seen in years, and I rather liked it.

And yes, as somebody said upthread, Stewie sounded just like a DLer, it was uncanny.

Was it all a Dream? Why did it end with him waking from a nightmare?

That whole Brazil trip analysis was painful - biting.

The show is written for people who are now in their mid thirties -- there isn't a single reference that doesn't go back farther than our childhoods.

I remember a long sequence riffing on the Maude theme song, r34. Maude was a 70's show.

And Lost In Space (60's)

And The Facts of Life (70's and 80's)

Carol Burnett sued Family Guy for copyright infringement after a parody of her show from the 60's-70's.

Here’s the Stewie’s real voice seen.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Seth disavows this episode at some point.

It felt to me like Stevie was voicing the real story of Seth - horribly lonely, unliked by all the other kids for being weird, assumed to be gay. The more I watched, the more it seemed like it could’ve been a transcript of one of Seth’s sessions with his therapist.

But it was written by Gary Janetti, a gay who also was a weird, unloved kid who liked Broadway. The episode was Gary’s idea.

Maybe we’re all Stewie.

Stewie is DataLounge personified.

Here's the transcript....

I see you're on vacation in Rio de Janeiro in this photo with ... your partner, I'm guessing. Or is he your husband? Yes, probably wanted to make it official, didn't you? Never thought you'd see it in your lifetime.

At a quick glance, I'd say there's roughly a 26-year age difference between the two of you. Not quite large enough to raise eyebrows while still giving you a younger mind to shape.

"Oh, you mean you haven't seen All About Eve, Gypsy, Valley of the Dolls?" Et cetera.

And a younger body to make you feel more virile. Taking into consideration the math, he was probably born at a time when the most popular name was ... Michael. From the dog-eared pages of that volume of Shakespeare, I imagine you wooed Michael with a sonnet or monologue each day. And no one had ever done anything so romantic as reciting Shakespeare for Michael before. And he was smitten.

While not as physically attracted to you as you are to him, that's okay. You each bring something important to the relationship. Isn't that what you believe, Dr. Pritchfield?

I see a prescription for heart medication on that table. My guess is you keep that at the office. You don't want to worry Michael, you say to yourself, even though the truth is it embarrasses you. Your age, your mortality. Best to keep appearing as vital as possible. And no need to have reminders at home of what's just around the corner, is there? And your office is your haven, since Michael doesn't work and is often at home, perhaps as a result of a low-level depression that you don't really want to get into with him.

Oh, he always planned to have a career, but he could never settle on exactly what it was he wanted to do. And at first you liked having him at home to take care of the house and plan trips. So that's just what happened.

"And that's a job, too," he reminds you over the years.

Michael likes to travel, and he prefers the finer things. And you'd like to give them to him, wouldn't you? But it's a bit difficult on a child psychologist's salary at a Rhode Island preschool, I'd imagine. Fortunately, you don't have children, so you do have some disposable income. Oh, you have talked about it with other couples, just for show, probably at dinner with younger friends of Michael's who are starting a family, you know, to be part of the conversation, to feel included. But you said you preferred your trips and your rescue dog named after a character most likely from Dickens.

Ah, how accomplished and affluent you both look in this photo. Just the image Michael is so desperate to project. Let's look a little closer, shall we?

Now, I see you're both wearing Ralph Lauren Purple Label dress shirts that retail starting at $495. But from the disfigured button holes on one and the small discoloration on the other, I can see you bought them at the outlet in Providence. Probably third markdown, in which case, $49, give or take. Since you also have light jackets on, I can see that you went there during summer vacation, which is, in fact, winter in Rio, outside of the high tourist season.

And I see that you're on the rooftop pool deck at the Fasano Hotel in Ipanema, the most exclusive hotel in all of Brazil. Michael would've been dying to stay there. Had a friend that went with his older boyfriend, who makes a lot of money in, most likely, banking, much to your chagrin.

But even in August, it's almost $1,000 a night. You tell him people are starving in the streets in Brazil. How do you justify paying those prices? When the truth is, you simply can't afford it. It's for another class of gay people.

The window that Michael is always desperately peering through and sadly on the other side of. But you do your best. You don't go on Airbnb, because you don't trust it, even though Michael has stories of friends who have found the most fabulous places. You like a hotel.

Besides, it's more romantic, you tell him. But when you take him to the place you're actually staying, the one you found on TripAdvisor that was rated number 27 of all the hotels in Rio and was having a special rate of 295 US dollars a night Which is still not cheap, you remind him. Most people never get to visit half the places he's seen, you tell him. You can't help but feel like a bit of a failure as you see the look of disappointment on his face as he enters the room.

So you decide to go to the Fasano Hotel for dinner and drinks. No, just drinks, once you've seen the restaurant prices online. And once there, you can see how Michael begins looking at all the older men who can afford to take their boyfriends - I'm sorry, husbands - to such luxurious hotels. And you worry a little, that you're diminishing in his eyes with each passing year.

But you tell yourself you're being ridiculous, as you see Michael glancing about the rooftop deck, looking at all the young men, men that would be 20 years younger than even Michael. Men that you're invisible to.

But he isn't yet, not completely, and you're jealous and you loathe yourself for it. But Michael wants a photo, and he says, "Let's take a selfie.

But you say, "Let's ask someone to take one of us" and make some tired joke about selfies that only you laugh at, wishing that you could take it out of the air as soon as you've said it, as it's just one more indicator that you're older than everybody here.

So Michael calls over a young man wearing a tiny swimsuit to take the photo and makes a crude joke that embarrasses you. But the young man laughs, and he and Michael share a moment that you're not part of. And you feel humiliated and unseen.

Which explains Michael's joyful grin and your slightly disconnected half-smile. And you've posted the photo on Facebook, and Michael's posted it to his 86 followers on Instagram - you don't know how that one works - to at least give the impression, in your Ralph Lauren shirts, holding your $20 cocktails, that you're both way more successful than you are.

But it makes you feel a little dirty, the lengths you have to go to in order to keep Michael happy. And every time you glance at this picture, you wonder, "How long before he leaves me?"

Here's the video.

Like a dagger through the heart.

Excellent submission, r43, r44 and r45, thank you. r46, too.

Stewie's takedown of Pritchfield was the best part. Second was the silly bit of young Dr. Pritchfield shouting Mother and Mom over and over in his flashback (typical McFarland) then the passive agressive squabble about Pritchfield not noticing Stewie's accent which leads to Stewie talking without accent (his coming out) and last, but not least, the brief message (MASSAGE!) of Michael on the answering machine. LOL.

R48 you know the same Mom Mother Mom Mama loop was done by Stewie on the show years ago, that’s why he tells Pritchfield to just stop it.

here's the video, r49.

R32, that’s interesting. There was an article on the EW website anout the episode, (minutes after it aired) and they didn’t mention that Stewie woke up, only that he couldn’t fall asleep. I wonder if they sent a screener to some of the press but tweaked the ending at the last minute.

Why was the “takedown” of the therapist satisfying? Is he the enemy who deserves humiliation?

Why did the therapist have to be gay and miserable?

I’m not seeing the entertainment value of that scene.

It’s not hilarious as much as it’s representation of the classic bitter externalization of self-loathing during denial. We all know someone who was like that at some point.

That Hamilton bit was just another Chicken Fight.

"it could’ve been a transcript of one of Seth’s sessions with his therapist. "

Probably was.

Snot-Hamilton = "Here's something funny, worth 20 seconds. Let's drag it out to four minutes."

So the big "coming out" tease was just toying with their fans. And in the end he comes out as straight? Lame

[quote] And in the end he comes out as straight? Lame

Did you watch the episode? I guess not, because he didn't come out as straight. He came out by doing his real voice without the British accent for the first time in the series.

Why would him coming out as gay be such a big revelation to anyone who watched the show?

[quote] Why was the “takedown” of the therapist satisfying? Is he the enemy who deserves humiliation?

It was typical Stewie to deflect from why he was really there. And, as it turned out, he was right about everything he deducted from that one picture.

Gary Janetti is behind that painfully unfunny British sitcom “Vicious.”

[quote] Why was the “takedown” of the therapist satisfying? Is he the enemy who deserves humiliation?

[quite] It was typical Stewie to deflect from why he was really there. And, as it turned out, he was right about everything he deducted from that one picture.

I would like to add that the part of Stewie talking about the age difference between the shrink and his partner, and what great lenghts the shrink goes though to keep up with his younger partner's physical and fiancial demands, was so Datalounge.

Most of that episode could be lifted from threads here.

Horrible horrible episode. Couldnt wait for it to end...

Then why did you watch it?

What is the fanboy reaction? Did longtime fans of the show love the episode?

R57 he very specifically self identifies as heterosexual. (And then makes insinuations that he might not be)

I liked it but I too don’t exactly get the choice for the therapist takedown. Would a takedown of a typical middle aged family man be too cliche at this point? It seemed oddly specific too. Whatever the case, it made for good tv.

It made me uncomfortable. I’m sure there are a lot of gay guys who identify some of that relationship in themselves or friends, at least partly. Maybe it would sit better if the boyfriend didn’t leave the voicemail about a divorce. Then it would have been a realistic look at a mature relationship that isn’t perfect but satisfying nonetheless. With the snide message about getting a divorce, both characters are rendered pathetic. Too mean and easy an ending, too twisty.

What made me uncomfortable about the therapist takedown was that it was so cruel on Stewie’s part and that the therapist didn’t deserve it.

What is the life of misery that Stewie observed supposed to say about gay men? That we are all pathetic? Or is the show’s target therapists and not gay men?

[Quote] Stewie is DataLounge personified.

Ahem.

I remember seeing this same episode of Stewie at the therapist for a whole episode back when Bea Arthur did it on Maude.

Yes R68 ,love me some Roger. is American Dad still on?

Anyway, this Stewie episode is amusing enough. No lol moment but I chuckle here and there.

[Quote] is American Dad still on?

Yes.

[quote]Gary Janetti is behind that painfully unfunny British sitcom “Vicious.”

Which I guess explains Ian McKellen's presence.

"Heterosexuality. Is that a word?"

He also wrote 9 episodes of W&G.

New episodes of "American Dad" are on TBS now, with a rerun on Adult Swim sometime later. Both channels rerun old episodes. Check your local listings.

The Maude therapy episode is very different from the Stewie therapy episode in case you didn’t know that

Perhaps Stewie's takedown of the therapist was projection of how he fears he himself will wind up one day.

ITA R77; the writer's, too, I imagine.

My old shrink named his dog after a Charles Dickens character.

He used to tell me: "I want you to ask more people (men) out."

I said to him: "Okay. I'll do it. (Beat.) Would you like to go out with me?"

the only reason Stewie doesn't come out (which he has numerous times) officially is because then it's done and over. This way, the show can always say 'he's undecided' or 'he's only a baby/toddler, who knows at that age?'

Who invents a time machine at any age?

All the proof is there: envisioning Rupert as a muscle god in a Speedo, wanting to be instagram pals with Grant Gustin....that's not something straight guys sit around doing.

You'd think Batman would kill the Joker as he raped Batgirl, killed Robin II, and killed numerous other people, but he doesn't, of course, because then he can't escape Arkham and live to terrorize once again. That's why Stewie comes out. Then, it'll be over.

Stewie's takedown of the shrink was Stewie being insecure and wanting to show off to the doctor that he isn't the usual easily duped patient of his.

thought it was brilliant. Broadway play level satire. Very incisive. I thought Seth wrote it.

R59 = Balthazar

I'm not going to pretend DL wasn't in my head all the way through Stewie's monologue.

I loved the first four seasons or so of Family Guy, but I stopped watching around season six and have only seen about five episodes since then. I gave this one a try and just found it a bit weird, to be honest. The Hamilton scene was a real low point.

Here is the thing about Family Guy. I like Seth MacFarlane, and he clearly has a lot of raw creative energy and ability, but most of the episodes of this show seem so half-assed.

With all the unrelated cutaway gags in the early seasons, to--even worse--the obvious time-fillers, it seems clear that many episodes run way under time or there isn't enough story or dialogue to fill an ep, so they basically write "INSERT: chicken fight/longwinded musical number/Conway Twitty/etc." It is so annoying. And then there are the gags like an above poster said are good ideas for 20-30 seconds, but Seth lets it go on for several minutes (like Peter trying to get the dead frog out of Chris's window using the shoebox).

I try and try with this show because I like Seth, and he is a big gay-loving lefty, but I gave up on it a bit back. As much as I hate the South Park guys and their politics, they are better at writing a story and character arc. And their criticism/sendup of FG was spot on.

Seth could do much better.

Well, since Gary wrote it, I suppose the takedown of the therapist is how he sees himself and his younger hubby Brad Goreski. Has Brad asked for a divorce yet?

Dr Pritchfield: You pushed a classmate down the stairs. Stewie: It was an accident. Haven't you ever seen Showgirls ?

But Brad, Gary’s younger husband, has his own money. So the power dynamic between the two of them will never be close to the power dynamic between the therapist and his husband.

Gary and Brad will never need to buy their Polo shirts from an Outlet Mall.

True r87. I guess he just hates therapists.

Maybe he was referring to other gay couples he knows or is aware of. It's hardly an unusual dynamic.

Last week Peter came out as bisexual.

The joke was that everyone who goes into the Coast Guard becomes bisexual.

Grant Gustin Is Flattered By Stewie’s Crush On Him

Something about his behavior on Conan makes me think that Grant had to be “reminded” to be flattered and amused by the unique shout out from Family Guy and not insulted and weirded out by it.

[quote] The joke was that everyone who goes into the Coast Guard becomes bisexual.

It's also in character with him hitting on Luke Perry years ago, not to mention countless other things.

But how come Peter turned down Ryan Reynolds?