Jogging/running as cardio - I swear it prematurely ages a person

The same goes for women golfers, they age horribly.

I absolutely agree with you, OP. There should be actual research done on this. Exercise is great, but running is probably the worst exercise when it comes to aging for the reasons you mentioned.

Another thing I have noticed is that after a few years, many regular runners look like sad wrinkled paper bags facially. And it’s not just because of low body fat.

“Any high-impact exercise, like running, causes a jolt to the skin, which can tear up the collagen in the skin," Dr. Imber says. "It doesn't happen over night, but it is one of the downsides to running."

The proof is in the face pudding.

What if you run on an elliptical?

knees

Dedicated runners have very little body fat. Subcutaneous fat is an attribute of a youthful face. People who spend a lot of time outdoors are naturally going to look more weather-beaten.

As R3 notes running/jogging may have an adverse effect on collagen which leads to a prematurely aged and wizened appearance.

High cortisol is one hell of a drug. Cardio, not even once.

The American Olympic biathlete Susan Dunklee looks about 50 but is only 31.

I’ll stick to riding my bike.

I agree, OP.

It's fun, though, and the only exercise I've been able to stick with for thirty years.

No, runners are outside in the sun.

We were not evolved to run except for small bursts like running from a saber tooth tiger. Other than that we were supposed to be gathering, walking, picking berries as we go, upright, not sitting, walking and moving, but gently. Runners are damaging their joints and spine and making it so that in their old age, when they need to move, they are going to be crippled up and less active than they should be.

Agreed. Also just the inertia of it all. We get so many steps as a human and then we wear out and die. Don’t waste them running in circles.

These yuppies are out of control. They run in the rain, snow, freezing temps. I bet they don’t even stop for hail storms.

Donald Trump posting at R14.

R13, we as a species were evolved to run long distances, thus why we sweat. Our protoancestors ran down their food and killed it by exhaustion.

We evolved to walk, not run. The impact pressure of running ultimately destroys the human foot because it is hundreds of pounds per square inch. Our ancient ancestors only ran after game when they had to, and not for fun, but a purpose, short term. Doing it daily is a fetish, and then the runners don't care how wizened they look, but they should because they neglext other areas. Say something, they just run away.

YES! I have a friend who was a bit underweight and she started running and now she is so gaunt her face is wrinkled up and she looks at least 10 years older than her age. I want to tell her she looked better before.

Never trust an article about how harmless running is that's written by a runner, R16. They're cultlike and brainwashed.

A coworker lost a lot of weight, over 50 lbs. She started running and got addicted to it, and is a long distance runner. Her face got jowly and her neck and arms are ropey like Madonna's. But she is healthier than being fat and feels great so I guess it doesn't bother her.

Typical runner face:

The boys are looking slightly better:

There are exceptions, of course:

This seems legit. I recently met a woman runner and I figured she was a good 40. I was surprised to find out she was 28 and younger than I am.

Running, is not good for anyone, common sense can tell you that.

I run a lot. This thread is reminding me to put on my sunscreen before I go out. I always forget. Thanks fatties!

If you are running great distances you have to be out in the sun to do that and even if it's not a sunny day your skin is still exposed to the rays. Same for golfing. All day outdoor sports expose you to too much sun and the sun ages your skin. Wear sunscreen.

Just my opinion, but I think swimmers, dancers and yoga practitioners have the best physiques as a result of their exercise. The muscles are lengthened and streamlined. And inverted yoga poses bring blood to the face, which I think is rejuvenating.

When I tried running, it made me feel panicky and stressed. But it seems to relieve stress for those who enjoy it. I can walk for hours — and I do! I think that just moving your body yields heart benefits without stressing the poor thing out.

Agree R28. I take barre and yoga classes and walk. Much better for the body. Most yogis look great.

Overweight people can do cardio. I think we should stress that any ill effects of running only apply to physically fit people.

IMO, sprinters usually have great looking bodies, but distance runners look like death warmed over.

What’s going on with the white guy’s shirt at R31’s link?

Yes, my personal trainer , who’s trained a lot of professional athletes , says the same . He says sprinting is ok , but running long distance or light jogging can really tear up the knees and hips/joints. Especially for women . I grew up with two parents who jogged all the time . Dad is still fit, but Mom can only walk now and has had to have a couple of knee surgeries. Neither look aged and they are both in their seventies, but that’s probably due to genetics and years of weight training . I just don’t feel great after I jog .

Personally, I like to do flat/incline intervals on a treadmill. The cardio benefits of intervals without all the pounding of running. And inclines really work the ass and hamstrings.

You all type fat!

Running like any physical activity can cause problems if taken to extremes. Or warning signs are ignored.

You know who evolved for sprinting? Horses. Humans are more suited to long distance running than sprinting.

Like almost anything we do taken to extremes or ignoring warning signs can be a problem for runners. I can't find any evidence this is a common problem among recreational runners. Isolated cases of people engaging in self-destructive behavior does not mean the entire activity is bad for you.

For example the NYT just ran a piece on body image and eating disorders among professional figure skaters. The piece featured Adam Rippon talking about his diet in 2016. Three slices of wheat toast spread with margarine. Also coffee and Splenda.. Are we to extrapolate form that that anyone who puts on a pair of figure states is malnourished and starving themselves?

I'm chubby and sedentary. I look 24 but I'm 64. I can go all night.

^ Go as in pee, gramps?

R19, I tend to agree and I hesitated to link to the article for that reason but realized that the article was based on this academic research done by an actual scientist.

Skinny people look older, a little fat help with those wrinkles.

Tony, I always love your posts but I’ve been wanting to ask, do you use more than one pseudo name here? Are you Babe Pauley too? Either way, I pinch your cheeks.

I think for men over 40 weight training is much better for you overall than running - for cardio you could sprint - or walk on a treadmill on an incline - but you look better and definitely feel better as you age if you are strong and carry more muscle mass than the average distance runner - or average older guy who doesn’t work out at all. I’m 54 & and I do feel my age in the gym more than a decade ago but I just rest between sets and take a few sets to build up to my working weight. I concentrate on staying / getting stronger - the size, better overall body shave and the heightened metabolism that more muscle mass all come from concentrating on strength.

Body shape. I don’t shave it. But many guys still do. Lol. R 42

You all sound fat.

Destroyed your bones and joints from the hips to your ankles.

There are some of us who truly enjoy running, especially trail running, more than any other sport activity. Running is a great mood stabilizer; it helps with situational depression. For this alone, I could never give it up, even though I have gone through two rounds of physical therapy in the past ten years (I've added some bike riding to my cardio since). I'll just be running fewer miles as I get older.

Most runners who have done it for a decade or more are keen on keeping their bodies slim, which is good for old age (and joints). Running keeps one's resting heart rate and blood pressure low. (I have a congenital heart defect and had to have a cardio stress test done a few months ago - the specialist laughed with surprise at the ultrasound imagery of my heart - he complimented me on the flexibility of my heart muscle when under stress.)

As far as joint and low back injuries go, every person starts to experience those at some point later in life. Recent studies say that those who run under 20 miles a week have stronger joints that those who don't run at all. Injuries start at 60 miles a week and over.

"These findings suggest that a single half-hour session of running changes the interior of the knee, reducing inflammation and lessening levels of a marker of arthritis, says Robert Hyldahl, a professor of exercise science at B.Y.U. and lead author of the study, published in the European Journal of Applied Physiology. But sitting for 30 minutes also changed the knee, he points out, which he and his colleagues had not expected. Sitting seemed to make the knee biochemically more vulnerable to later disease."

R41, I just use my real name. I like Babe Paley’s posts too but sometimes she’s a little conservative for my tastes. I just assume she’s being ironic.

R27 nailed it. It's not the running, per se. It's all the time outdoors exposing your face to the elements.

Julia Sugarbaker jogs!

No. It can age your face, but the body holds up pretty well.

My entire family loves to walk and hike, and they all look younger than they are. My sister is a runner, and she's the only one who is aging badly. There is definitely something to that theory which has nothing to do with being exposed to the elements, even though common sense should tell people to use sunscreen, stay in the shade as much as possible, and a wear a hat outside.

Swmming is intense cardio; you're working your arms, legs, lungs and heart all simultaneously, with little or no jarring impact. The only negatives are the chlorine in the pool water and the sun (swim indoors or use sunscreen).

Yoga is good for your flexibility, balance, strength and endurance. Vinyasa yoga or power yoga are intense workouts. Yoga is also good for mind/body coordinationand a general overall feeling of peace and bliss.

I prefer bicycle riding to running as it is smoother, and it really develops your calf muscles.

I’m 54, and I don’t want to look like a raisin in sneakers.

These runners are probably all dead. But the music is nice.

Used to do a lot of 5K runs when I was younger but my knees are shot and I ruptured my disc. Still like to run but only intervals on a treadmill usually 2-3 minutes running and 2 minutes walking a couple times a week. My knees can no longer handle the hard pavement.

Trying to lose about 20 lbs. I'm 56 and unfortunately I'm not aging well but don't think it has anything to do with running.

So does veganism. Ever see a healthy-looking, long-term vegan?

Yeah, i read somewhere that 20 miles per week is the sweet spot, It seems that running hard (the 60 miles per week +++ people) ages white people more than anybody else. Asian long distance runners dont seem to be that gaunt- i have a friend who does triathlons and qualified for kona and she looks much younger than her age. I think its their naturally round faces that help with this. African marathoners look wiry and gaunt, but i dont think they look old though.

I ran for years, to replace a cigarette addiction. It worked, I quit the smokes, and kept my weight from climbing. I cut back on running to raise my family, and took up biking. I ride to work most days, unless it's snowing or raining. I walk around five miles everyday. That and the biking keep me trim and fit. I'm not very wrinkled, and I have no joint problems or sagging face issues, and I was running 10 to 15 miles a day in my running years. My careful friends who didn't want to ruin their knees are walking with canes, or 50 pounds overweight. I still kick up my heels and run once in a while, but biking is my addiction now. We had snow in Chicago this week, so I couldn't ride, but the streets are clear so I was back at it yesterday. I'm getting old now and wonder when I will have to stop riding. I too vain to get on one of those adult tricycles.

R56, eating fruits and vegetables ages people? How’s your cholesterol and how many pills do you take daily?

Vegans don’t eat enough collagen or fats which affects the quality of the skin. Look at the wrinkles in young, thin, athletic, Natalie Portman.

There is a lot of really overweight vegans who eat carbs, nuts and olive oil all day. Natalie Portman's problem is she probably doesnt eat enough.

R60, maybe she just needs to stop RUNNING, which just happens to be the topic of this thread. No, a vegan diet doe not age people.

Most of you all are a bunch of anti-science nitwits.

R56, Annette Larkins has been raw vegan for over 30 years and looks incredible. Fucking moron.

I prefer an early morning walk at a good pace. I can focus on my breathing and pace without getting anxious like running.

Running has been proven to help ease anxiety and depression, R14. If running makes you anxious than you are an exception to the rule.

R65, I mean, not R14.

R58, how old are you?

R68 I'm 63.

Running is terrible on your body - wears down the joints, ligaments and tendons. Causes bone spurs in the feet -

Smell R63! Oh please enlighten us with your intense scientifically based wisdom on running. Science is merely one narrow minded way of looking at a subject. Do you read the latest medical literature on the science of cardio? Oh do share! Or do you just regurgitate shit about science as a general blanket topic when you enter a topic of conversation that you have no relevant knowledge or personal experience with?

Best is brisk walking, several times a day if possible.And lots of sun screen.

I've seen a full range of outcomes for regular runners. Joint issues is most likely to happen, but it can happen with any regular intense exercise. As for looking prematurely old, I don't see it consistently. Sure, with some who are also starving themselves, but people who starve themselves often look prematurely old even without the running. So, I wouldn't swear that running leads to premature aging, though it can under the right circumstances.

Former distance runner here.

Due to the years and years of the relentless pursuit of my adrenaline high, my feet and hip joints have experienced irreparable damage due to the intense concrete/full-body-weight impact as a result: my feet (metatarsal span) are now grotesquely wide, and I am now afflicted with internal damage to my right hip socket.

When one runs such an extreme distance, that often, one burns calories in one's sleep, literally. Then when the day returns, it's back to another run, another high. Take a look at photos of champion runners, male and female: nearly nonexistent body fat due to the continual caloric burn; hence the appearance of an accelerated aging process.

That being said, in my youth it was the best form of cardio/full body training, the best. Once the endorphins had kicked in, I was Super Man, I could accomplish anything, annnnything!

"Take a look at photos of champion runners, male and female: nearly nonexistent body fat due to the continual caloric burn; hence the appearance of an accelerated aging process."

But these are champion runners. What about just everyday regular runners; average distance, average intensity - not "high mileage."

How many miles a week, r74?

I have hip issues (from overuse), but I can still do some treadmill running (the bounce helps).

I’m in Colorado. Some healthy folks here but they look old as fuck. Sun will mess your face up. I do my indoor spinning and weights and I’m good. Hiking and walking outside with sunscreen and a hat.

I think there's a happy medium. I love running. But I do it 3 times a week. I run 4, 5, and 6 miles respectively. I use the elliptical for my other cardio days. And I eat food. So I'm not manorexic.

OP, I’ve been running for years. I rarely run during the day. Most of my running happens before the sun comes up or after it goes down. I also have no problem getting on a treadmill indoors.

I eat lots of salmon, egg whites, and vegetables. I try to maintain anywhere from 5 to 10 extra pounds on me which is muscle. I never starve myself or diet, but I am very disciplined about not eating crap. Every now and then, I do eat a slice of chocolate cake or some ice cream, but that doesn’t happen often, since I don’t crave refined sugar or processed foods.

I think that it’s really important to mix it up. I do CrossFit, yoga, Pilates, swimming, hiking, weights, running, biking, etc. The important thing is to keep moving.

I have not aged badly whatsoever, and I attribute that mainly to staying out of the sun for prolonged periods of time, along with no booze, no drugs, and no smoking.

Eating clean is also a very big factor.

I love running and have been doing it for a very long time, but I don’t advise anyone to do it everyday after hitting 40. Once or twice a week is more than enough.

Once my body says no more running, I’ll stop.

On average 40 to 50 miles per week, then half marathons once a month (weekends). New running shoes (the best, which was costly) every 4 to 6 weeks, depending on mileage: Shin splints were not allowed, ever.

Also contributing to the diminished body fat is the lack of appetite one experiences when running such distances. Because of the continual release of adrenaline., the sense of hunger disappears. Another reason for the intense release of adrenaline is this is the body/mind's way of repairing the damage the body experiences when subjected to such extremes. Think of it in this manner: when one burns their finger, there is a minute lapse of time before one experiences pain. This is because of the automatic release of adrenaline. Similarly, when one experiences an overly intense workout in the gym, it is the next day when one experiences the true pain of such exertion. The adrenaline has worn off.

Never have been a 'regular' runner, R75; so I don't have an answer.

Jim Fixx the man who wrote the book running - died of a heart attack.

R81 - what's your point? Are you just showing your ignorance for all the world to see?

R81, that’s my preferred way to die. Better than cancer! A quick massive coronary. Even if it’s painful, you don’t suffer very long.

Sign me up!

Fixx had heart disease in the family and probably would have died earlier without the running, bozo 81.

r84 r82 uh..Aerobic exercise, also known as “cardio” exercise, uses repetitive contraction of large muscle groups to get your heart beating faster and is the most beneficial type of exercise for your cardiovascular system (your heart and blood vessels). Regular cardio workouts can: ... Lower your blood pressure and cholesterol.

Cardio is supposed to be beneficial to your heart. Before Fixx took up running he was a heavy smoker, was 214 pounds and had a stressful life and job. He took up running and became the godfather of it and got healthy - except he didn't. An autopsy revealed he had 95% blockage in his carotid artery. He has a history or heart disease in his family but the moral of the Fixx story is - no matter how healthy he got he could not reverse the damage he had done. In fact he might have lived longer if he never took up jogging because it was his routine that stressed his system and caused the heart attack.

Agree! Most runners look terrible. Dry, wrinkly, brown and wizened.

I walk, do weight resistance machines, and some cardio at the gym and get told I look 45. I’m 66.

Well , R86, I run 5 miles a day and get told I look 17. I’m 104!

I love cardio. But mix it up/combine it with HIIT and weights. Cardio for heart. Weights for strength. Throw in some yoga or stretching for mobility/flexibility.

And HIIT “de-ages” you on a cellular (mitochondrial) level:

Or, R85, he might have dropped dead sooner.

r89 no, he died running, he stressed his system to the point of failure. 95% carotid blockage is instant open heart surgery if your doctor discovers it.

The problem for a lot of these obsessive middle aged runners is that, once you pass about 45 you absolutely need to have more fat on your body or you're going to look like a cadaver. I've seen very fit middle aged men who look like they belong in a cancer ward.

Running on concrete is horrible for your joints. If you're going to run, run on grass, dirt or gravel. Every runner i've ever met has horrible knee problems. It's not worth it.

runners are haggard old bitter cunts

Was just reading about Fixx. He had a very enlarged heart that he didn't tell doctors about. Also, he'd had chest pains while running previously. Too bad he chose to disregard signals.

My sister jogs quite a bit and looks pretty young but most of our family is lucky that way even the alcoholics so who knows. It does seem to bring a lot of happiness to some peoples lives.

Maybe, r208. But I have a feeling they would find money for bullets as they think being armed is a necessity.

R92 - you must have run into an unusual set of runners. Overall runners have less hip and knee injuries than the general population.

It is true that if you are going to run on a regular basis, like almost all physical activities, you need to have the right equipment. You also need to warm-up and stretch. You need running shoes that are appropriated for the surface you are running on. If you run trails, those shoes won't work on concrete. Obviously the reverse is true.

R91 - you must have the same weird friends as R92.

It takes 15 visit (one day = one visit) to be able to post. Another week to start threads.

I have a former boss who got into running in his mid thirties. When he started he was around 35 but could pass for late 20's, after about a year of running he looked at best low 40's.

I have run many miles in my life. My knees are so f***ed up, nowadays I can barely walk up a flight of stairs, and opt for an elevator.

I enjoyed running while I could, but I have definitely paid the price.

Swimming is better for you than running.

Swimmers seem to age much better than runners. Every male runner I see looks the same : stringy and worn, like boiled chicken.

R101, I agree about swimming being better than running.

The problem with me and swimming is my hair. I’m a frau with long hair. Not teenage long, but down to the middle of my back. Regular exposure to chlorine fucks it up.

Every gym I’ve gone to, and the new pool in WeHo (at the new library and park center), as well as the public pool over by the park near the tar pits, are inundated with chlorine, as they should be, being that they’re of use for the public.

I wish I had enough money to get an unchlorinated pool. But I don’t, so where ever I am, I swim once every few weeks in order to not screw up my hair.

But swimming is one of the BEST exercises out there. If you don’t mind the chlorine, do it often, because it will keep you in shape without killing your joints.

There is a very compulsive / show-offy nature to most regular joggers / runners.

It tends to suit Management Consultant types.

Yes, R13. And when people did sit, it wasn't in chairs. This positioning oneself so that blood pools,in the feet, for hours, is bizarre.

R103, can't you wear a,bathing cap?

Aside from looking like walking corpses, the thing that irritates me the most is how cultish these runners get. They are addicted to that “high” they get. And it’s all they ever talk about.

Oh FUCK yes that's right; it's usually the bird-boned guys who just HAVE to get in an extra run . As in " I skipped lunch so I can get in an extra run". Those are usually the ones who look like they have one foot in the grave. Addicts. Wouldn't care if they'd keep their asses on the sidewalk instead of trying to dash between moving cars because they are obsessed with keeping their heart rate up.

Really enjoying all the abuse being heaped on runners about their looks and health. Eventually the worm really does turn!

I’m all for exercise, R110. We’re talking about the best form of cardio. Even some runners here have indicated that it can take an eventual toll on the body.

Fast walking for 30 minutes per day is one of the best forms of exercise combined with sensible eating habits (i.e. avoid junk food, processed food & sugar).

Lol, r112

I lost 30 lbs doing water aerobics with the weights and water jogging/running using HIIT. I also tread water for as long as I can. I have very long hair and just wear it up. The water is amazing and healing for anyone with any type of joint problem, I can't recommend it enough. I use a ton of sunscreen and wear a big brimmed hat and rash guard to protect from the sun. I also lifted weights 2x a week and pretty much ate the same but I just stopped having seconds (and thirds) and switched from fried to grilled so I never felt deprived.

R106, I do! And it does little to nothing. The water still gets in and fuck up my hair.

I have no hair issues whenever I swim in the ocean. I cover it with hair conditioner that as SPF in it, and wear it in in a ponytail when I hit the beach.

Cardio in general ages you. I only do strength/weight training.

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I've heard about how running may loosen the body's connective tissue. It makes sense that doing so (especially on concrete) for long periods of time would cause premature aging.

I'm very interested in how the Japanese people live. They seem to live very long and healthy lives without running.

I hurt my knee last year and spent a lot of time in physical therapy. All the PT people and staff there were very down on running if you are over 25 or so. They were all about biking. (and they like the recumbent bike the best. That is supposedly the best safest exercise according to them.)

Run past sunset.

Lifelong runner here. Yes, it has caught up with my knees. But the theory about it aging you is bunk. I look much younger than my peers. And I have much better calves, so there.

R117, are you sure that isn't some Make-A-Wish kid with that aging disease who's getting to be a cop for the day?

[Quote] And I have much better calves

What do you mean by "better? "

R117 He recently turned 60 but was in his late 50's in that photo, even though he looks more like late 70's.

Running is really bad on your knees and ankles and as someone mentioned makes your skin stretch. Don't even start on women's tits'

Frau swimmer, my mom swims regularly and coats her hair in coconut or argan oil and wears a cap. The cap keeps most of the oil from getting out and the oil protects her hair from the chlorine.

here you go r123

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So many joggers not watching what they are doing and getting hit by cars. It's called 'jogger's brain'.

R126, doesn’t the oil get into the pool, though?

It a great idea. I love coconut oil, but it makes me break out, even on my scalp, so I cannot use it. I’ve never tried Árgano oil. Honestly, I dislike the scent.

Do you strain your hair after a chlorine session?

The hair whiner is annoying. I swim daily and wear a cap--nothing gets through it and I have a lot of hair and a big head.

R131, please do kindly fuck off if you’re annoyed by my whining.

This isn’t about you, but your big head has convinced itself to be annoyed by something so trivial and benign, as a woman complaining about about her hair and swimming caps.

I have long hair. Try swimming with a cap, and long, thick hair underneath it, jerk.

Everyone can do as they like, but I agree that running is harsh on the body. Swimming is good cardio, and I’d also recommend some good yoga. Not even talking about that “hot” yoga nonsense. A nice vinyasa flow will get your heart pumping and sweat dripping. I also believe the inversion poses bring blood flow to the face and that rejuvenates skin.

Try getting your hair wet in a shower before you put the cap on r132. It makes it easier for the cap to go on and creates more of a "seal" so pool water doesn't get in.

People seem to enjoy running, but walking is better.

Can the self-admitted fraus (if true, thanks for being honest) go back to their regular aol.com chat rooms?

No one needs to hear about your fucking long hair.

If women posters are so damaging to your mental equilibrium you could just block them, R136?

R135 I agree the best shape I was ever in was when I had my dog and we went on daily two hour walks. Sadly, he is gone and I can't bring myself to get another one.

Get another one, R138. You sound like a good dog owner and some doggie would be lucky to be part of your life.

R138 I second R139’s sentiment. Go to the pound and bring home a new dog to love. It does wonders for your mood and improves your life and it sounds like you are a wonderful pet owner. Any puppy would be lucky to go home with you.

For the runners, kinda cool:

I started running just 6 weeks ago. I’m 58 now and had skinny parents so was hugely anti-exercise and ate fried foods, but no junk or processed foods. Then miserable menopause hit and I got a little puppy. So we went for walks, long walks. Since 2013, my right knee would hurt going up stairs. I would put all my weight on my left leg and just accepted it. Then, my doctor told me I weighed 140 lbs at 5.2. My goth sewing teacher nicely helped me make an identical new dress after I became a pig and could not breathe in the one we spent weeks on.

Anyway, I decided to change and started running with the pup. A little fast walking and then practically crawling. But I got some nice ASICS shoes and kept with it. I can now run longer, faster and the belly has lost 3”, from 38 to 35.. But even stranger is the fact that I can climb stairs with no pain in my right knee. The food intake is the same sadly. I really don’t care where my boobs go and I have a fat looking face.

Can anyone guess why my knee stopped hurting with this minimal running? My internist is very impressed with me. :))))

I used to run until I got plantar fasciitis. Omg that was painful.

Now I stand up paddleboad. It’s heavenly

[quote]Can anyone guess why my knee stopped hurting with this minimal running?

"Endorphins are a group of hormones secreted throughout the brain and body during intense stress or arousal and are part of the “fight-or-flight” response. In general, endorphins can relieve pain, produce feelings of pleasure, reduce stress and increase relaxation. One way to stimulate the release of endorphins is through exercise."

R144-Thanks for the link. My knee doesn’t hurt because I am using different ligaments for different feet positions. Maybe something needed strengthening? I’m not an orthopedic surgeon but still, a doctor since 1985. Endorphins can make you happy but not do away with things like knee pain, especially pains related to climbing stairs. In a general sense endorphins contribute to feelings of wellbeing. I would love to hear from someone who has experienced patellar, ACL injuries and the like.

[quote] Can anyone guess why my knee stopped hurting with this minimal running?

Maybe the extra weight was the culprit?

Around 50 or 55 the damage from running will kick in. It is very hard on the knees and feet. It doesn't give you a high but for older folks walking is better.

I wince when I see young people doing high impact aerobics because of all the joint damage in their future.

I get the impression R136 would need smelling salts if they mentioned the pain from their tits bouncing up/down.

"Don't even start on women's tits."

Not much danger of that here.