Marlon Brando Has to Be the Greatest Fall Off in History

Who was the bottom... him or Pryor?

Pryor.

Don't forget me. I feel off hard as well.

I think he just had a personality focused on consumption. Sex, food, it didn’t matter. There was just too damn much, and it was never enough.

I wonder if we’ll be saying that about Ben Affleck in 15 years.

odd that he was hotter in black in white in color not as much.

Brando was definitely the bottom.

Define fall OP?

Brando was topping Paul Newman.

[QUOTE]Define fall OP?

As in looks.

Marlon Brando played an invalid in a wheelchair in his very first movie, "The Men". Being a method actor, he stayed in the wheelchair so much that there was fears that he would damage the strength of his legs.

What a remarkable man.

There are always a couple of beautiful young men on every campus across America, who achieve Brando's level of allure. His magic was cinematic, and few have that. Plus the early charm. Almost all beautiful young men lose their looks spectacularly.

R15 Marlon certainly did.

Marlon with James Baldwin whom he apparently fucked.

Elizabeth Taylor if we include women.

Grace Kelly too. Brando knocked out Bing Crosby (yuck) after Bing caught MB in bed with Grace.

Obviously he would have aged no matter what -- lost hair, gotten bigger, etc. But, how much of Brando's massive transformation could have been avoided? I sort of like that he wasn't that vain about it and didn't give a fuck in the end. He could confidently look back and know he was fucking beautiful and got to take advantage of that for a big part of his life.

Extremely magnetic.

Oh my.

I have nothing to add. Just a pic.

He was so beautiful as a young man without lifting a finger, then his body went to hell as he got older because he never learned how to properly take care of it.

I don't know, OP. William Howard Taft certainly is in the running.

Marlon gets a facial.

Elvis Presley could give Marlon a run for his money as greatest fall off.

A more recent example would be Leo Dicaprio.

he fucked over Rita Moreno so badly she tried to or wanted to kill herself. that's a dangerous kinda love.

He was beautiful but not really pretty which is ideal. He fucked himself up, he didn't have to fall off so badly.

Disagree about Grace, I think she aged rather naturally and still retained her beauty.

I work with a guy that looks like Marlon Brando especially in R16's pic. He even as the same mannerisms except that he is bald.

Tom Hardy should play Marlon Brando while he still can.

Wearing that tanktop was such a plaeasure. So sexy! I had that.

R34 Tom Hardy is too busy trying to butch it up with all the facial hair. He said something about experimenting with other men and now he and his PR people have been trying furiously to stamp out all the rumors in any way possible.

Tom Hardy looking more civilized (and no facial hair) back in the day.

No way on earth Marvin Gaye would agree to bottom. Too alpha. And Richard Pryor makes it clear in all his discussions of anal sex that he is always the top. So yes, Marlon Brando was the bottom.

Marlon had thin receding hair even when young, so you know he's gonna fall off sooner than later.

You all are forgetting Mickey fucking Rourke.

"He was so beautiful as a young man without lifting a finger, then his body went to hell as he got older because he never learned how to properly take care of it."

Please, there's not that much go learn. Even then people knew of diet and alcohol moderation and exercise.

In a book about Marlon there was a story that one day he was watching television and came across one of his early movies. He watched it for a while and began crying over the fact that he couldn't imagine he was once so beautiful compared to the whale he was at the present time.

Hold my beer

He and Richard Pryor never fucked. That's one of the looniest, most unsubstantiated pieces of gossip I've ever heard.

The FallOff

Actually it's pretty well substantiated, R47. Read the news.

Why does one of them have to be the top and one the bottom? Maybe they jerked each other off, or 69ed, or something like that.

R47 Pryor's widow backed up the claims and said neither hid it. "It was the 70s!"

Ms Marvin was a beta not an alpha. We always knew he was Gaye with a name like that.......

"Actually it's pretty well substantiated, [R47]. Read the news."

Substantiated how? By the babblings of Quincy Jones and Jennifer Lee? By the way, I've read Jennifer Lee's memoir of long ago; she talks extensively of her life with Richard Pryor and NOWHERE does she mention him ever saying he was into gay sex, although she talks about sex a lot in the book, almost on every page it seems. She would fuck anything.

"Actually it's pretty well substantiated, [R47]. Read the news."

It was substantiated that Pryor had been with men and Brando had been with men, but not that they'd been with each other. Well, until Quincy Jones spilled tea. And, Pryor's non-denial was about Richard and men in general, not Brando specifically. So, Brando/Pryor really wasn't a rumor at all until yesterday and is kind of "WTF?"

Hold my beer too

We just need a Fall Off thread and we'll abandon this one and leave everyone to debate whether Pryor stuck his cock up Brando's asshole or vice versa and if it's substantiated or not.

Quincy is trying to deflect attention from the investigation of pedos In Hollywood...his name is going to come up - more than once....

2 crackpots together. I doubt (although I could be wrong) that Michael and Marlon had sex together.

Since this thread segued into Brando's sex life, don't forget his lifelong relationship with mild mannered comedic actor Wally Cox. I've linked a basic story about them but if you want more wild details look into the Shelley Winters autobiography (or biography?) thread here on DL. She talks about her times at Brando and Cox's apartment in NYC. Were they lovers or just very close childhood friends? That is the the ongoing speculation.

R57 beat me to it. I'm surprised old Quincy hasn't said that Michael Jackson and Brando had sex. Jackson was a great admirer of Brando; they were quite friendly. And old Quincy said Brando would fuck anything. So why hasn't he come out with THAT? I guess because, when making all of his shit up, he thought that might be going a little too far. I think he was afraid of the backlash he'd get from Michael's fans if he said Michael liked to be butt fucked by Brando.

R59 Michael had become so unattractive and asexual that I think Brando would have preferred to have sex with the mailbox as opposed to Jackson.

Marlon's favorite mailbox - comes with a glory hole.

Perfect legs @ R41. Damn.

[quote]I think he was afraid of the backlash he'd get from Michael's fans if he said Michael liked to be butt fucked by Brando.

WTF are you talking about?

Michael was the top.

Well it was about thirty years from Streetcar to the late 80s or so when he really became bloated.

He's still sort of sexy in Last Tango. (and heavily made up in The Godfather.)

R64 Marlon was in his mid 40's when he made Last Tango In Paris. It was his last hurrah as a fairly attractive man.

Two to Tango.

There was a photo that surfaced of Brando sucking cock.

[58] So Wally Cox and Marlon ashes are together according to Wikipedia.

On February 15, 1973, Cox died of a heart attack in his Hollywood, California, home.[1][9] According to an autopsy, Cox died of a coronary occlusion.[9] Initial reports indicated that he wished to have no funeral and that his ashes would be scattered at sea.[9] A later report indicated his ashes were put in with those of Brando and another close friend Sam Gilman and scattered in Death Valley and Tahiti.[2]

but tom hardy is a big fat bottom.....

as Quincy Jones said, he'd fuck a mailbox

[quote]Being a method actor, he stayed in the wheelchair so much that there was fears that he would damage the strength of his legs.

That is a cute story. But ridiculous. Did the movie take ten years to film?

Wasn't he known to neglect his personal hygiene at times?

He was still handsome in Superman.

An older actor friend recounted what it was like seeing him onstage in STREETCAR, he said the power of his presence made the theater burn, and most had never seen a performance so primal. The actors went to a bar after a bemoaned their presentational style and how he changed the art of stage acting forever, must of been fantastic to see...

Most grossly overrated actor in history. Ridiculous over acting in most films.Massive Hygiene Issue IRL and a all round shit to everyone. Including his children , Good in Reflection in a golden eye, 'playing'an aging repressed queen. Pretty enough in streetcar if you like 'dwarfy working class self conscious gay 'type. .Leigh acted circles around him in that film. Lucky for him she was in that camp fest. Kazan has to be the most repressed gay mysoginist ever.

....

Does anyone know why he chose to let his body go?

Here's your answer.

^^ 😂😂😂

Are there rumors of alcohol or drug abuse in his history? I can't recall any hard rumors that he was an addict of something.

I take that back. Apparently he was addicted to ice cream by the gallon. Seemed to be the one of the things that led to his decline. At a certain point he just said "fuck it, bring me a tub of Vanilla Swirl!"

His next door neighbor Jack Nicholson sent an ice-cream truck to Marlon's house as a joke birthday present once.

That poor ice cream man still hasn’t been heard from.

I had no idea he had so many kids.. some born in the 90’s?? His one son, who is now dead, murdered someone. I read about it all last night on Wikipedia then had nightmares. Any other gossip about his other kids?

[quote]Most grossly overrated actor in history.

Let me guess: You wish every actor could be dignified, like Norma Shearer.

His taint stank. Dirty bottom.

Yeah, cause I've been going to the gym, using Minoxidil and am on my way to regaining my hot sexy self !

Italians are sociopaths

English, Irish, German, Dutch, French Huguenot, Welsh, Scottish

Sometimes I see the Dutch boy. The curly silky hair. When he wears a beret. His pecs and nips look Dutch. I dont often see the Black Irish but the pic at R12 VERY young, has the Irish face.

[quote]He and Richard Pryor never fucked. That's one of the looniest, most unsubstantiated pieces of gossip I've ever heard.

Awww...U mad? Upset that it was a……comedian?

Kazan was so condescending towards Leigh but she acts circles around everyone else in that film.

Also he had such an obsession with Brando I wondered if he had repressed gay feelings for the guy.

Jack Warner at his classiest: 'Who'd want to fuck Jessica Tandy?!'

R89 is a xenpohobe

Rain Pryor is having none of it and she seems like a angry lady.

What Italian have we discussed?

[QUOTE]What Italian have we discussed?

Richard Pryor.

Young and beautiful, but someday your looks'll be gone; when the others turn you off, who'll be turnin' you on? I WILL, I WILL, I WILL!

[quote]He and Richard Pryor never fucked. That's one of the looniest, most unsubstantiated pieces of gossip I've ever heard.

His wife has admitted that Pryor had sex with Brando.

He was in love with a guy named Wally Cox. They were a couple.

Wally Cox Cock.

What thinks DataLounge about the heavy circumstantial evidence that Brando, at his peak of nubileness (19), begat the mother of Courtney Love and is therefore the great-grandfather of Frances Bean Cobain?

"Paula lived under the roof of acting coach Stella Adler at the time, as did then unknown actor Marlon Brando.[10] There have been persistent rumors that Brando fathered the child, although neither Brando nor Fox ever commented on the matter."

He was still a very handsome older man.

In Julius Caesar. Co-star John Gielgud thought he was divine.

"At home with Marlon Brando."

"His wife has admitted that Pryor had sex with Brando."

Do you know anything about Jennifer Lee? It's obvious that you don't. I read her memoir. She talks in detail about her sex life and the sex life of Richard Pryor and nowhere does she mention anything about him ever saying he liked sex with men. Since she was so willing talk about anything else he did sexually, why not mention that? My guess is because it never happened.

Jennifer Lee was an untalented "starlet" who never achieved anything except to be the sex partner of some famous people. Some of her fuck buddies were Warren Beatty, Roman Polanski, Jimmy Connors, Jim Brown, Jon Finch, Waylon Jennings, Wilie Nelson, Gordon Lightfoot, just to name a few. She doesn't consider herself gay but on every other page she's having sex with another woman, usually in the context of the threesome where the man watches while the two females do their girl on girl lesbian action. She mentions doing the girl/girl bit with Beverly D'Angelo for some famous guy; I think it was David Geffen. She and Bev "tangoed" in bed while he watched. One night she decides she wouldn't go it with a woman for the entertainment of a man, but for herself, so she hired a female hooker and proceeded to have a totally "decadent" night of sex with her. She considered it empowering to be the one in charge of the sex romp. As for her and Pryor, they were a match in hell. He kept her financially since she had no real source of income on her own and would periodically beat her up, but she never had him arrested and endured it because she "loved" him. After reading her memoir I got the impression that she is a totally out for herself gold digging skank. Not exactly the most credible person in the world. I think she intends to make money over these revelations that Richard Pryor was into sex with men by shilling the stupid "diaries." While he was alive she making money off of him. Now she's trying to make money off of his corpse. She's scum.

David Niven used to tell the story of being a guest and Larry and Viv's. He went for a walk and ran across Larry and Marlon naked in the pool making out.

Niven also wrote about Leigh's breakdown in one of his books,disguising her under the name 'missy'. When confronted by Stewart Granger, who WAS there, unlike Niven, and help soothing Leigh, later telling Niven about it, the cunt replied that he had to pay his taxes. He was a notorious asshole, and sold many of his 'friends' in his fake memoirs... in order to pay his taxes

Why do some men let themselves go like that?

Look at him! What a pathetic fat alcoholic pig he has turned himself into. The constant fear of being exposed as the fraud finally took its toll

It was not Niven who told the story of Larry and Marlon. It was Guiness. Highly improbable too

It was Niven. Chose your link, including one from an earlier Datalounge thread.

"David Niven used to tell the story of being a guest and Larry and Viv's. He went for a walk and ran across Larry and Marlon naked in the pool making out."

Yeah, I"m sure THAT happened.(snort).

Exactly, r112. THAT happened. Niven kept walking without making his presence known. Presumably amused but not horrified.

"THAT happened. Niven kept walking without making his presence known. Presumably amused but not horrified."

Were there, too? Nope. You just believe David Niven's titillating gossip (titillating gossip sells books, you know). And that's all it is: no proof it happened, you just have to take the word of a celebrity who wants people to buy his book.

I had a beautiful boyfriend who resented only being seen as beautiful so he started working against his looks. Sometimes I wonder if that was Brando’s trip.

David Niven wasn't exactly credible. In an review for a biography of Niven by Graham Lord it stated:

It is Lord's unlucky lot to correct the whoppers Niven told throughout his life, especially in his relentlessly anecdotal autobiography, The Moon's a Balloon. For starters, his background was nothing like as poor as he pretended. His father had a military background and his step-father (who may have been his real father) was a diplomat whose generous disposition was unacknowledged by the brood he inherited. "We couldn't stand him," agrees David's lesbian sister, Grizel.

As a child Niven verged on the delinquent until he was sent to Stowe, where the charismatic headmaster licked him into shape and, Lord writes, "transformed him into a charming, life-enhancing English gentleman". At Sandhurst he was a rugby-playing bruiser, dabbling in variety shows: "Niven biffled away delightfully", recorded the Royal Military College magazine. A stint with the Highland Light Infantry (the Hairy-Legged Irish) in Malta didn't convince him he had a future in the army. "When's breakfast?" he asked on arrival. "Breakfast? Officers in the HLT never have breakfast. They are generally sick around 11.00."

Another Walter Mitty fantasy was that he drifted into the movies, but Lord makes clear that he went for stardom like a Jack Russell after a rat. At 23 he ran away to America, fell in love with Hollywood, exploited everyone he stumbled across and charmed the producer Sam Goldwyn, "The only man who can run amok sitting down." Charlie Chaplin advised him, "Don't just stand around waiting your turn to speak - learn to listen." Niven was too cocky by then to care. "The trouble with that young man", said Goldwyn, "is that his body has gone to his head."

"His wife has admitted that Pryor had sex with Brando."

The wife didn't deny that Pryor had sex with men. She didn't say directly that he had sex with Brando.

Some people seem very heavily invested in Olivier and Brando not being bi. Unnaturally so, despite the evidence.

[quote]I had a beautiful boyfriend who resented only being seen as beautiful so he started working against his looks.

So dumb.

[quote]Some people seem very heavily invested in Olivier and Brando not being bi. Unnaturally so, despite the evidence.

What thread are you reading? I think the issue here is who he fucked--NOT that he was bi.

If he were young today, you just know he'd have been an insta ho. And we would have loved him for it.

Queens here rage about Olivier and Brando being 'gay ' but calm down a step if you give them "bi". They would much rather Larry and Marlon would be left alone in straightness.It's hilarious. Brando and Olivier never made out in no pool with Leigh going on about her business. These two faggots were but too obsessing about their 'best actor in the whole entire business ' fantasy ego trip. Meanwhile John Mills steals the show in 'Ryan's daughter' and' Bates 'shows what acting is about. How stupid can you be ? What is next ? Monroe and Taylor fingering ? Meanwhile, Franck keeps playing poker? I can see lots of short overweight once supposedly attractive (lol) 60 something pancakes posting hysterically here. Grow up Queenies. Clock is ticking

It seems like a lot of really beautiful men did not age gracefully, although perhaps that's just because we remember the contrast more than those who did. But think about people like Val Kilmer, Cary Elwes, Jan-Michael Vincent or, going back a few years, Peter Lawford. All absolutely gorgeous in their younger days and all completely falling apart as they aged.

The source of the David Niven gossip about walking in on Olivier and Brando making out in the pool was none other than Darwin Porter in his trashy pseudobiography, "Brando: Unzipped." It's a shame that such unsubstantiated gossip gets repeated and republished so often that people now take it as fact.

Burt Ward

Prince William. All those Windsors, actually.

In my day I could have had him. At his hottest.

Why would Niven lie about such a thing? Olivier and Brando were known to be bi and there is no starfucker like another star.

I see both of them getting turned on by each other's charisma in a pool.

Leigh would hardly be angry about such a thing as Olivier was such a God to her, was fucking Danny Kaye, though that must have been galling(who the fuck would fuck Danny Kaye?), and as long as they stayed married I'm sure she couldn't have given a shit if he frightened the horses.

"Some people seem very heavily invested in Olivier and Brando not being bi. Unnaturally so, despite the evidence."

Some people (such as you) seem very heavily invested in Olivier and Brando not being bi. Unnaturally so, despite the evidence.

"Why would Niven lie about such a thing? "

Why would he lie about anything? He did tell "whoppers" in his book that were eventually found out. The Brando/Olivier hot man on man make out scene is not doubt another one of his whoppers.

Why don't you stupid posters READ the fucking threads ?? We have established the fact that Niven was an liar and an asshole who wanted to sell paper. Given that Leigh had a major breakdown because of the alleged Olivier /Kaye thing, I think she WOULD have minded. A lot. Leigh' tragedy was that she gave up everything ,honor, family, husband, child, ( remember in her former social circles, being 'on the stage ' was a disgrace and many of her british upper class friends declared in Alan Dent's book 'a bouquet' 'I never saw her on the screen'. Movie were for the hoi polloi.) for a man who gave her sexual satisfaction in the beginning, but neither loved nor respected her. Have you queens NEVER met any human woman ? Because they generally don't stand infidelity gladly. Leigh insisted in playing out her drama in most her later films, anna karenina ( 'I AM Anna'), the deep blue see, and ship of fools.It's been widely reported that she would casually ask Olivier in public, at major industry functions ' why don't you fuck me anymore?". Do your homework, stupid, fanfiction lover.

If Leigh had a breakdown over the alleged Olivier/Kaye affair it was hardly 'alleged.' She KNEW.

And even though I'm for open relationships if my boyfriend had an affair with Danny Kaye I'd have a breakdown too.

Poor Vivien Leigh was bi-polar; THAT was what caused her "breakdowns", not some supposed affair between Oliver and Danny Kaye.