Frank Ocean interviews Timothee Chalamet

TC A year ago, I was in Hell’s Kitchen, [eating] bacon, egg, and cheeses, kicking it at my buddy Will’s—tonight I’m going to the SAG Awards. It’s been a nonstop, weird-ass six months—a lot of fun, but trippy, too.

FO What’s the fit going to be for the SAG Awards?

TC It’s going to be...“Please don’t touch my Raf, please don’t touch my Raf” [laughs].

FO We’re giving Raf [Simons] this evening. I love it.

TC I’m such a fan boy. [Being involved] with fashion has been really fun, just as a fan. I don’t want to work with a stylist or anything. I’ve been following designers like Raf, Haider Ackermann, Hedi Slimane—these guys are like rock stars. They’re artists.

FO Yeah, they’re artists. There’s this really great connection between all these [creative] fields. You’re finding your own creativity and being excited about that; it’s cool. I’ve been into photography for six or seven years. It’s almost like this quiet search for joy. It actually provides me with the same feeling that making a record does: imagining or dreaming about something, and then it being in the real world.

TC “Dreaming a thought that could dream about a thought. / That could think of the dreamer that thought. / That could think of dreaming and getting a glimmer of God.”

FO [Laughs.] Don’t do that. When you’re on set, are you method acting?

TC I try to be super careful. The danger is you can end up focusing more on what’s going on off-camera than on-camera. You don’t want to be entertaining for the sake of being entertaining. The work should be the work. If it resonates, it’s going to resonate, and then people are naturally curious about how you got to that destination. It can’t be about how you’re getting to it.

FO People say you get to do some movies for yourself and others you do for the studio: how do you feel about making movies that aren’t as full to the brim with emotion and real feeling as the last two movies you made? Like, how do you feel about making Transformers?

TC As Kanye put it, Guillermo del Toro made Paci c Rim and that’s one of his favorite movies. His latest movie, The Shape of Water, is amazing. Christopher Nolan is tied with Paul Thomas Anderson [as] my favorite director. If one of those auteurs has a $200 million film and wants me to be a part of it, fuck yeah.

FO It seems like a good change of pace sometimes to do physically demanding films—the space, superhero, aggressive, big-budget action films.

TC Exactly. The project I’m jumping into is exactly that. I’m going to put on 25 pounds—I’m like a skinny little shit right now. Listen, I saw that one of your favorite films is The Master.

FO Yes. Joaquin [Phoenix], man.

TC Dude, that is my favorite actor. There’s five or six artists I’m really trying to follow in the footsteps of creatively. I get the opportunity to be on the phone with one right now [laughs], but on the acting side, Joaquin is number one for me.

FO The time period of 20th Century Women seems close to Call Me By Your Name, that ’80s time period. Did you get into these past eras of fashion and shit when you were doing the film?

TC Absolutely. I’m a total “nostalgist” and Call Me By Your Name’s director, Luca, grew up in that time period. In fact, the book is set in ’88 and he changed it to ’83 because he said that was the year in your life you can hear music from. In the movie, there’s Talking Heads, The Psychedelic Furs, or just the Bach or Beethoven—those are all songs from Luca’s youth, what it was like for him in Italy in the ’80s. Also, in 1988, the AIDS crisis had already hit and that was part of the reasoning for making [the film] a little bit earlier too, so it wasn’t as intense, and could be a little more utopic. What a tragedy for movies now that if you want to be contemporary, phones have to be involved, with texting and FaceTime. I don’t know if [the characters in] Call Me By Your Name would ever have that relationship if there was passive-aggressive commenting and “likes.” They actually had to talk, figure each other out, and struggle with their emotions.

FO And they had to wait to talk. You couldn’t just talk instantly, which I think is sometimes good for the conversation. I want to talk to you too [about] learning languages, in Call Me By Your Name. Can things be expressed or even felt differently, because of the language?

TC When I act in French, it’s really shocking to me how it feels more grounding than acting in English. I grew up speaking French with my dad, but it’s not a language I have as much command over, so when I speak or act in French, the words mean so much to me; I’m so focused. So much of Call Me By Your Name is silent and plays out physically; there’s kind of a push and pull. Acting in Italian, I’m really winging it: memorizing how lines sound phonetically, just trying to get the intonations and mannerisms right, so the lines ring true to Italian audiences.

FO When you were speaking Italian, was there somebody on set to call you out if it felt fake?

TC We had someone on set that could correct me. Same for [playing] the piano and guitar. I did a movie called Beautiful Boy this year that involved a lot of drug sequences, and that also felt very important to get right. I had a consultant on set for that.

FO You had a consultant for the drugs?

TC Exactly. It felt like a big responsibility to get that right. The movie is about addiction, and to get the actual using wrong would betray anyone’s experiences walking that path. It was very helpful.

FC I could see how it would be. You have the opportunity to learn all these things—seems like the best profession in the world for the curious spirit and mind.

TC I was in college for a little bit and it felt like a clear decision to not [finish]; it was scary because I didn’t want to rob myself of growing as a human. But it’s been the exact opposite: going from set to set, working with creative, open people, having mentors rooting for you. There’s education within that, I guess.

FO That [Call Me By Your Name] soundtrack is super good.

TC We listened to Sufjan Stevens [included on the soundtrack] with Luca and Armie [Hammer] right before we started shooting—that was an experience, to listen to that and, like, hold each other after. It’s awesome to hear you say that about the soundtrack. You’ve got to score a movie.

FO Yeah, one of these days. How many hours of piano went into it?

TC I had an Italian teacher, Roberto Solci, who had a painting of himself composing above his piano. He was absolutely brilliant and instinctual. I played a little bit of piano, but nothing like it was in the book or the movie. I worked with Roberto every day in a small apartment below Luca’s villa, and formed a really special relationship with [Solci].

FO Which school of thought are you in: that what you do is kind of in you, like a gift, this thing you’re really good at? Or, do you feel like whatever you decided to do and really believed in, you would’ve been good at?

TC I think I have to go with the first. I had this feeling I couldn’t not act and yet to get there I really needed teachers, and one teacher in particular, to make me comfortable with failing. To be bad and get over it—that opened the floodgates. I did a play in New York when I was 15, after this really difficult but ultimately helpful sophomore year in high school; that’s when it kind of took off for me. I’m also really passionate about music. I want to pursue other things creatively, not so much music, but definitely writing and directing. I’m going to be very, very patient about that. The dream as an actor is to be economically self-sustainable and what this year has been is beyond that now. I’m getting a creative license of sorts.

FO Cool. Well, I’m going to sign off. Best of luck tonight.

TC Thank you so much for this. It’s been such an experience, sharing personal thoughts about artistry and acting with someone that’s influenced me in many ways. This means the world to me.

In the photo it looks like Timo-tay is waiting to get railed. Good man!!

What a foul mouthed young man, I'd paddle his cheeks crimson if he spoke that way in front of me...

My god, can you even IMAGINE a "frank ocean?"

Frank Ocean is so hot!

BRo is putting on 25 pounds. Hopefully muscle

What is the new project he is doing with a giant budget?? Please not a shitty comic hero movie!!

I hope so

Hipsters4Hipsters

God, these two: a black hole of pretentiousness! Especially Frankie

Frank is so cool

God, Timothée is such a beautiful man.

I like them both. Nice interview.

Frank Ocean and Xavier Dolan Interview Timothée Chalamet About High School, Intimacy, and the Future

It was a threesome

Frank isn't exactly the best looking dude on the block. It's a good thing he has talent.

Good interview

Frank Ocean is far more handsome than that girly boy Chalamet.

They're both and they'd probably fuck each other. (Frank out of lust, Timmy out of admiration).

So in other words, Timothee likes them black.

stfu R18 Frank is gorgeous.

FRank is hot to death. Bros love him too

Unfortunately, underneath the smart hip exterior Frank is in reality a stealth silly fem queen who likes to rock glitter tights and women’s highheel boots and vogue with his RuPaul drag queen pals

[Quote]Frank Ocean is far more handsome than that girly boy Chalamet.

Um, did you forget Frank was tappin' French model, Willy Cartier, king of all girly men, at one time? He likes 'em femme and a little crazy in the head.

Gurl I hope they recorded the fuck session after this!

Willy is a pretty boy, but he’s not “faggy fem.” He’s the kind of pretty boy straight guys are cool with

FRank is very attractive.

R25 nothing wrong with that

r25, I'd love if Frank came out a 2nd time, now as feminine cross dressing queen. His sales would probably benefit as well.

Frank is hot as fuck! And Timmy actually seems like a coherent successor for Willy, both pretty boys with very interesting faces. I hope Tim and Frank end up fucking. Both are beautiful and artsy and pretentious and I think Timmy is such unashamed fanboy he would do pretty much anything for Frank.

Timmy better watch his back. Frank and Willy are still in touch and saw each other last year when Willy was in LA. Though I'd love to see a good girly man cat fight.

i would like to clarify that timothée chalamet quoting frank ocean’s music at him and being told to stop is, perhaps, an even bigger mood

Brad Pitt is the biggest Frank Ocean stan

So a Frank Ocean fan and a 2018 Tyler The Creator fan walk into a bar...

Who yells “IM GAY BUT NOT GAY GAY JUST BISEXUAL GAY” first?

Timotay channeling Brüno in that pic.

Frank is very happily and publically (in his lowkey way) boo’d up with Memo Guzman. Even name checks him in his songs. Timothée is quite safe

[quote]Brad Pitt is the biggest Frank Ocean stan

This may, or may not, be platonic.

[quote]"My guy pretty like a girl, and he got fight stories to tell, I see both sides like Chanel ..."

Song liked by many including Obama. But clearly about Brad Pitt.

Well.....that happened.

tim would not tap that....

god i hope tim picks some good roles, his tiny bit in Hostiles was pitiful... ghastly western, oy.

R40 is delusional. It’s about his ACTUAL fucking boyfriend Memo.ockhams razor. See also Provider

Brad Pitt’s love for Frank is totally platonic, an intense brocrush.

[Quote]"My guy pretty like a girl, and he got fight stories to tell, I see both sides like Chanel ..."

[Quote]Song liked by many including Obama. But clearly about Brad Pitt.

[Quote][R40] is delusional. It’s about his ACTUAL fucking boyfriend Memo.ockhams razor. See also Provider

Actually, you're both delusional. Frank wrote the song about Willy, and his volatile past. Willy is also a favorite of Karl Largerfeld whenever Karl's in the mood for a little spice. Willy has walked for Chanel & Largerfeld has photographed and drawn Willy's portrait.

HAS willy dated females

R46, he was dating a real bitch.

Cool

Chalamet can't hold a candle to Cartier's pedigee. It's like serving your guests spam on a Ritz cracker and telling them it's caviar. Once you've tasted cavier, spam just won't do.

Ummm

[quote]Chalamet can't hold a candle to Cartier's pedigee. It's like serving your guests spam on a Ritz cracker and telling them it's caviar. Once you've tasted cavier, spam just won't do.

Like "pedigree" plays any kind of role in the chemistry between two people.

Why did Frank and Willy split? Who dumped who? And who do people think busted Willy's face? We desperately need french posters to tell us gossip about that beautiful man.

FRAnk Ocean is the most transformative and influential bi/gay man in American culture today

I never understood the big deal about Willy. Maybe he gives good head to the right people. He's attractive, but there are prettier dudes out there.

And I honestly think these guys are put on a pedestal just because they're French. I also never understood why so many people have automatic hard-ons for French guys. To me they are no more or less attractive than any other nationality out there.

I’m not into pretty dudes with long hair, so Willy ain’t gonna be my type.

Well that IS my type and Willy ain't doing it for me either.

Frank is hot to me, though I usually need a dude to be muscular to find him hot

R45 NO, you're WRONG. It’s not 2012 anymore, dear. Please stay in your lane you clueless bitch and don’t fuck with a hardcore Frank stan who actually know theiir shit

Willy has come a long way with his English. Although my French is rusty, I can tell you he has charisma and a magnetism that comes through when he speaks French. He's frightfully charming, humble and seductive, equally with men and women. Here we would say he has a certain mystique. He's appeared in several movies and is a trained dancer.

You need to see him in person, as I have several times, to really appreciate just how gorgeous he is. It's not the face, per se, but his amazing bone structure. The only other person who has ever left me with a similar impression would be Grace Jones, who I'm convinced is an ethereal being.

Willy, his mother, Lea Cartier, and his father, Jack Servoz, are pretty well known in France. Jack is a painter and humorist. Lea is a former model and actress, who is now a choreographer and fashion designer. She has her own dance company that tours the world. Willy says spending part of his childhood backstage at his mother's shows gave him an apreciation for strong women. He's super close with his mom, who gives the final approval on all his relationships. Here is his mother performing at a gay ball in a costume she created. Imagine how you would have turned out if this were your mom.

Gay vague is more popular than gay

Especially with fangurls and the fanfic crowd.

Willy's been abused a few times. He could be in a Harvey Weinstein type situation. His parents look at his social media, so maybe the can step in before it's too late.

In the meantime, keep posting those pictures. You'll need evidence when you go to court.

Nude

Hanging with his brahs. Whose lap is he sitting on there?

The guy making the shh sign plays Fergus on Outlander.

Fuck off Willy Cartier loon. This is ooooold news, ancient history — and that’s even assuming they actually ever did date, which has never—NEVER—been confirmed. Back to LSA you go

Back to reality...and on topic with actual accomplished stars

R68, and you are sane with your endless CMBYN threads and Instagram whore posts. Suck me, prick!

R69 Whew lad! Get a grip my autistic friend! Never so much as posted in a CMBYN thread. Bringing my INFORMED expertise to all Frank Ocean/gay & bi music threads on the other hand...

Frank fucked Willy back in the day.

R71 *Possibly*. Still speculative. Neither you nor I where there. Far more positive evidence that he fucked Riccardo Tisci. Those are the types of receipts needed

Yeah people here delisionally think reckless wild rumormongering is truth.

Delusionally

Tisci may have fucked Frank, but he had Willy way before. Riccardo was instrumental in launching Willy's career. They met in late 2008, and by 2010, Willy was one of his muses.

R71 allegedly

I thought this thread would talk a bit more about Frank and Tim? What has prompted Frank to interview Timothee? After all Frank is not the only celebrity Timothee has mentioned in his interviews or award speeches, so why??

Hopefully he did it to get in his half french pants.

Interview magazine chooses who interviews the subject. Timothee has mentioned numerous times how much he"d like to meet Ocean.

Previously Matthew McConaughey interviewed him for the magazine.

Exactly. Stop lying bro

Frank Tim and Willy all have the craziest stans ever. This thread will go off the rails

Hmmmm

R80 do you reckon? Is that the reason why all of Tim's threads have been closed or deleted? Strangest thing. Someone higher up doesn't like what has been said about their client maybe? Or they are going to extremes to try and control his image?

I had never seen this level of censorship on the DL before. Incredible

R82 Right now, we're talking about Timmy/Armie/CMBYN in this one thread.

There's barely a whisper about Frank and Willy on this board compared to the lunacy going on in the CMBYN threads.

I loathe Frank Ocean, but not as much as I hate his enabling fans who buy into his pretentious bs.

I loved Caribbean Queen! When did this Ocean fellow get his career going again? I hadn't heard anything from him in YEARS!

Oh r86, retro jokes from 2011! Dontcha just love old people humor

R87 has been triggered

Boom

@R89 Basquiat??

BOSs

Frank is so cool

Frank wrote "Ivy" for Willy. It ain't over until it's over.

This delusional obsessing about the relationship between Willy/Frank smells like the handiwork of the mentally ill troll “Sandro” whose been banned from many Frank forums and for harassing Franks current BF