John Mahoney, 77, RIP

Aw... RIP.

RIP

Aw, I loved Martin. Frasier had a really strong cast (except for Jane Leeves, whose performance was a bit patchy in the later seasons).

Nooooo. : ( Such a good and likable actor.

He was a gay man, wasn’t he?

Ugh. Did a play with him several years ago (after Frasier was over) and he was an irascible old cuss. Constantly smoked, even in the dressing room where it wasn't allowed.

Oh well. RIP

Yes, R5.

Sorry but he'll always be the Say Anything dad to me

That’s too bad. I still watch Frasier at bedtime. Perfect show to drift off to, I watched the ski lodge episode last night. I can’t imagine anyone else playing Martin. He was on Hot in Cleveland more recently. Anyone know what his illness was?

Martin, Niles, Bulldog & Gil were all gay in real life.

Truly sad! Friendly guy and great actor. Frasier, In the Line of Fire, Suspect....

Lived a very quiet life in Oak Park, near Chicago. Very philanthropic but also agoraphobic and protected emotionally and physically by his long-time partner. Good guy. Sad.

Very nice man, from what I gather. I was in a used bookstore in Oak Park (the suburb where he lived) and heard a familiar voice--he was engaged in a conversation with the owner. Seemed very friendly, unprepossessing. I saw him in a lot of Steppenwolf shows before he hit Broadway and TV--always authentic and real. A friend of mine worked as a maitre d' at one of the fancier Loop restaurants and said Mahoney would come in with his (male) partner a lot and was always good to the staff.

I didn’t realize he was only 16 years older than Kelsey Grammer.

God needed another sissy boy in Heaven.

Five words.....

The House of Blue Leaves

He was raised in England? No kidding. Was there ever a detachable accent?

Didn't he always deny being gay?

I thought he was a lot older.

oops, meant "detectable".

It says a lot that he stayed in Oak Park with all that TV money. I’ve known a few guys from there, seems like a very middle class suburb and very Irish at one time maybe not now.

77 is young these days. RIP.

I remember reading it here on DL that he and the much younger Kevin Anderson had an affair when they were in the original Chicago cast of Orphans.

I thought Mahoney was out for a long time. The one's who did the glass closet thing was David Hyde Pierce.

I had four days work as an extra in a movie he was in back in the 1980's. He was very friendly to everyone. It was a location shoot and every day he had a different YOUNG man with him......all of them were very cute and clingy. Four days - four different twinks.

RIP It's going to make rewatching bittersweet for me now.

His dad was Irish. I notice a lot of British actors, like Claire Foy and CZJ, have an Irish parent.

So excellent in BARTON FINK as the Faulkneresque writer - a good actor.

He played the jerky boss in Reality Bites.

That's so sad. He was great in Frasier. I loved that episode where he took Frasier and Niles to the Timber Mill restaurant. And when he overdecorated the apartment at Christmas.

Is Oak Park where Daniel Travanti and his partner live?

I hope Eddie (Moose) is up there giving him some loving face licks.

77, I also thought he was older. Great actor. Rip.

Loved him in The House of Blue Leaves! The whole show is on YouTube, so watch it. They filmed it when Christine Baranski had replaced Stockard Channing (and Baranski was much better in my opinion).

Stupid commercial for a great play.

I'm sure someone can find the interview when he's asked if he's gay and he gets very offended.

I saw him in "Born Yesterday" at Steppenwolf in the 80s. Glenn Headley played the Judy Halliday role. He was too charming to play the mobster, I thought--but what an attractive man!

[quote]I hope Eddie (Moose) is up there giving him some loving face licks.

^^ This genuinely put a lump in my throat.

[quote]Beer and pretzels, that's our game C-H-E-R-S If you don't come here, that's a shame C-H-E-R-S With a C-C here, C-C there

RIP, Mr. Mahoney.

I hope his hideous comfy chair is waiting for him, too.

[quote]77 is young these days. RIP.

You're kidding yourself, dear.

Didn’t he just do a play in New York a couple of months ago?

All those Steppenwolf actors are terrific - Malkovich, Sinise, Laurie Metcalf, Joan Allen, Glenne Headley. RIP Mahoney.

WIKI:

[quote]Along with David Hyde Pierce, Mahoney was godfather to Frasier co-star Jane Leeves' son Finn.Mahoney scarcely talked about his private life, but in a 2002 article he revealed he had been in several relationships, although he had never married.

in other words - closeted

He was a fun distraction in "Moonstruck."

It’s always a bit strange when character actors stay closeted, it’s not like they’re going to be called upon to play a romantic lead or risk sulllying their former reputation as one. I guess it’s public opinion that concerns them. 77 is young but if he was a heavy smoker as someone suggested he got a decent run. RIP.

[quote] He was raised in England?

Can I assume he was unmutilated?

I assume smoking did him in.

R33 I saw Blue Leaves too and it was my first experience of Baranski. I remember the friend I went with was disappointed because Stockard Channing had already left, but then Baranski made her first entrance--she channeled a low-rent version of Joan Rivers (in other words, just the real Joan rivers) in her "Can we talk" mode, but was also utterly herself. Heaven. Mahoney and Kurtz captured the tragicomic dimensions of the couple so well--so that the ending was heart-breaking.

R46 Interesting you should say that. I'm the one who saw him in the bookstore in Oak Park and he had an unfiltered Camel ready to light when he exited, and I remember thinking, God, who smokes those things these days? (And my parents had been unfiltered Chesterfield smokers, but by then, late 70s early 80s, switched to Kent--though my father still died of lung cancer in 1983 at 59).

I was born and raised in Ireland. Our local butcher was John Mahoney prounounced MA (as in mat without the t) - O - NEE and said said so fast it comes out as m’nee. Every time I see his name in the Frasier credits I get flashbacks to all the dead geese hanging in Mahoney’s window at Christmas, the string of tacky red tinsel around them and I see my mother putting on her good coat to go down and collect the goose. Such bittersweet memories. Godspeed Mr M’nee.

Enjoy....

Just saw him in a performance at Steppenwolf Theater, a few months ago - Rembrandt; he played a dying gay man in hospice. And Homer. Of The Odyssey, Homer. He was fantastic. Very touching.

R24, he was MENtoring them.

Ironically he was brought up in Manchester where Jane Leeves character was supposed to be from. Jane Leeves never did a Manchester accent as Daphne, it was more like a Yorkshire accent. Mahoney apparently chose to lose his Manchester accent when he moved to the states in his late teens.

This news makes me sad! He was great on Frasier. Always wondered how he felt about playing a character that was much older than his actual age. (When Frasier first started, Mahoney was only 53 years old, while Grammer was 38.)

In addition to Mahoney, Oak Park has gifted the nation with SNL star Cecily Strong, Giver-Goddess Judy Tenuta, and DL faves Kathy Griffin and Betty White.

Ahem re FLW R55.

In Bruce Campbell's book If Chins Could Talk, he repeats a story Mahoney told him about working on the movie Striking Distance with Bruce Willis. Apparently Willis was very demanding that supporting cast like Mahoney give him everything to improve his close-ups in dialogue scenes, but when it came time to do the reverse shot Willis refused to do it, forcing actors to say their lines to someone else while Willis was off relaxing in his trailer or whatever.

Campbell also said Mahoney was one of the nicest guys he'd ever met.

[quote]I saw Blue Leaves too and it was my first experience of Baranski. I remember the friend I went with was disappointed because Stockard Channing had already left, but then Baranski made her first entrance--she channeled a low-rent version of Joan Rivers

I just think Baranski looked the role more than Channing. When they put her hair up her ears stuck out and she just looked like an ugly duckling and you could see why she was such a brash loud mouth because nobody thought she was pretty. And I loved that she had so many different jobs. You could see Baranski running her mouth and getting fired from all those jobs. And the entire Sandra Dee monologue became hilarious when Baranski did it.

"Finally at 4 am, Sandra's best friend, Annette Funicello, came over and gave Sandra the curlers out of her very own hair. Thus ended Sandra Dee's Night of Hell."

Aww--I really liked him! I first noticed him when he played the Paul Newman role (to Ben Stiller's "Tom Cruise") in SNL's "Color of Money" parody

Mahoney was really good in every role I've ever seen him play, including his work in Moonstruck and The Lonely Hearts Club. Never had a chance to see him on stage. There seems to be a clear understanding among DLer that he was family, but closeted. Would have enjoyed seeing more from him. RIP.

OK, R56 - so he only designed a bunch of houses in Oak Park. Mea culpa to all you cheeseheads.

He can still kiss my aspirations!

Had forgotten he did 2 films with Cher- Moonstruck and Suspect.

Cheesehead here. Appreciate the correction, R55, R61.

Loved Mahoney, closeted or not. RIP.

How was he only 77? He was super old back in the 90's when Daphne was his full time caretaker. I didn't realize he was so young in real life.

What's all this "SO young" nonsense?

R66 77 is very young. Most people live into their 80s and 90s today. Not everything has to be seen through the lense of a millennial.

Oak Park...

Hemingway?

So young.

77 is normal and NO tragedy.

^^Frank Llyod Wright

[quote][R66] 77 is very young. Most people live into their 80s and 90s today.

I don't think a know a single soul who lived into their 90s - maybe a few bed-bound basket cases, that's all.

R71 Nice.

[quote]Four days - four different twinks.

I think we've found DL's Man of the Year!

Bob Newhart was born in Oak Park.

R72 I'm sorry to hear that. All my grandparents lived active happy lives well into their 90s. I have lots of other family friends in their 90s.

Once they're into their 80s its pills and hospitals and doctors. 77 is a great age to go.

I watched a video the other day about a woman who skated up until her death in her 90s. I think she was on the the ice at least five days a week. Broke her hip and also had a stroke in her 80s, but came back from both to keep skating.

[QUOTE] Ironically he was brought up in Manchester where Jane Leeves character was supposed to be from. Jane Leeves never did a Manchester accent as Daphne, it was more like a Yorkshire accent. Mahoney apparently chose to lose his Manchester accent when he moved to the states in his late teens.

He was apparently born in Blackpool (seaside town) early in WWII, then raised in Stockport Manchester where he still kept a house.

Good bio from 1998 in The Telegraph

What was on his ipod.

He was only 52, 53 when Frasier first aired in 1993??

I thought he was in his 70s back then.

RIP, Martin

Maybe it was the cane, he played old really well.

[quote] I don't think a know a single soul who lived into their 90s

My grandma lived to 102, her sister until 99, and their brother lived 91 years.

Sad for you, I guess.

He apparently battled colon cancer back in the 1960s (Wikipedia) but cause of death not yet revealed. Great man. RIP, good sir.

He was one of those people that looked the same age for decades.

Sad. I was hoping just now for a Frasier reboot, which I think is more deserving than that Roseanne one.

He was great in both Moonstruck and Suspect.

I just thought about a reboot. Well, no way they would do it now- it would just be sad.

R84 Sorry for the typo: John battled cancer back in the 1980s.

Is it possible he shaved off a few years? After all the guy totally ditched his natural accent after he was an adult, even when not performing. That’s a bit of a deception.

David Hyde Pierce was in the closet?

R90 Don't think he shaved a few years off his age because it makes more sense for him to be born away from the family home (which was always in Stockport, Manchester) if he was born in 1940/1 when Manchester was being heavily bombed. His birth being in Blackpool wouldn't really add up otherwise?

R55. And ME!!! (Also, Dan Castellaneta, Jane Hamilton, and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio)

[quote]Sad. I was hoping just now for a Frasier reboot, which I think is more deserving than that Roseanne one.

Guess they'll have to kill off the father just like they killed me off.

WHAT'S ON HER BADASS IPOD! .... "My Way," Hank Sinatra

Since Frasier's father was dead when he was on Cheers, I guess they can use that story line for the reboot.

How many other spinoffs changed the characters' history that much?

Dying at 77 isn't sad, what is sad is that he still had to work at 77.

[quote] Dying at 77 isn't sad, what is sad is that he still had to work at 77.

Your point being?

Sad he smoked like Joni Mitchell.

Thanks r98, we would not have known how to feel without your guidance, and will certainly stay away from creative endeavors when the threshold age is reached.

Sorry to hear that. I'm watching Frasier now. It's one of my favorite shows.

He probably wanted to work. When you do what you love it’s not really working. I’m sure he had plenty of dough.

R98 better than working at a grocery store collecting shopping carts in -25C weather.

What a lovely evocative post R49. Thank you for that.

If they reboot "Frasier," they can replace him with Maris. But who would they get to play her?

Maris was a low rent Lilith.

Love him but he was just 77 now? Hell, I thought he was 77 when the show was on, over 80 when it ended. I had no idea he was still alive. RIP

God Bless His Soul tonight

R90 The BBC have confirmed that he was 77 and that his Mother was evacuated to Blackpool from Manchester for his birth.

His scene with Olympia Dukakis remains, for me, one of the most charming moments in MOONSTRUCK. Two great actors playing it so low key, so close to the ground that their flirtation and mutual attraction seems inevitable and entirely plausible.

So sad, he was such a great actor. And I also thought he'd be older, since he seemed much older on Fraiser.

How old is his partner/husband?

Great actor. RIP.

Any reason his wikipedia page completely avoids talking about his homosexuality?

Manchester was heavily bombed in 1940/41 because it had a huge inland sea port and lots of munitions factories. My Mother was also born in Blackpool (though from Salford/Manchester) for the same reason as John Mahoney

It looks a bit different now.

What a great scene R111.

I never realized how attractive Olympia was/is.

Wasn't Blackpool a popular place for honeymoon couples?

R10, Gil was GAY?

R118 Probably not in 1940 as their husbands would have only got 24 - 48 hours leave to marry and The Blackout would have ruined any chance of seeing the illuminations (seafront lights).

I think that it was after The War. I wouldn't go now if I was paid. It's a Dump!

John was absolutely perfect in Moonstruck, as was the entire cast.

He's the only much older guy I felt sexually attracted to.

I remember years ago someone posting here when they interviewed John after The Broken Hearts Club came out that he was told by John's publicist, or agent or something to not ask anything even remotely personal, especially about his private life.

David Ehrenstein once threw a tantrum here saying he WASN'T GAY, so I knew he was.

John's surviving partner was older - Bernie Dowling, 82-83, but in much better health. John's has been in decline for at least 10. Bernie ran his foundation and was the quiet face of his philanthropy. I'm very shocked to see him completely omitted from John's obituaries and all trace of John's gayness is going unacknowledged in 2018. So sad.

I like older men and I thought he was handsome. The earlier Frasier years weren't his best but then he hit his stride and created a TV icon. I don't think he ever really came out but it wasn't a secret either, I'm sure. RIP John and thanks for the laughs.

RIP The dog is still alive right?

Moose, the dog who played Eddie, died in 2006

And Moose's "son" Enzo replaced him as Eddie on Frasier. Enso died in 2010.

Moose, Enzo and now John all gone. Fraser is a cursed show.

[quote]He was raised in England? No kidding. Was there ever a detachable accent?

BIG TIME. He played Tracey Ullman's gay British flight attendant's character's father in "Tracey Takes On". He used his real accent in it.

Ah, I wish I could watch that one R131! It's not on YT or Netflix.

John in "Tracey Takes On" with his real accent, ironically a gay sketch.

Damn.

He was amazing.

"77 is very young. Most people live into their 80s and 90s today. Not everything has to be seen through the lense of a millennial."

If you are going to look down on millennials, maybe you should learn how to spell. And also check up on some statistics regarding the average life expectancy for a man in the US.

Thank you R133!!!

Wonder if that was filmed when he was doing Frasier, because in the scene when he walks into the living room he does the limp a few times!

Tracey Takes On? It was filmed in 1996, aired in early 1997.

Strange the cast had so many out gay actors but he wasn't among them. Was it a generational thing?

I haven't seen it mentioned here (or if it has been I'm missing it) so as far as our dear Mr. Mahoney coming out publically, he may have thought his turn as Restaurateur Jack in "Broken Hearts Club" said it all in his behalf. -- His character is mentioned in about the last 25-30 seconds

And Olympia’s husband died a few days ago. So sad.

I loved him on Frasier. I think the only way a Frasier reboot would work is if it centered around Niles and Daphnes relationship, maybe Frasier has to move in while he has a new house being built. Daphne and Niles child or (children) could also be part of the plot, with one driving Frasier crazy.

On Frasier, I think you can hear a trace of his original accent when he says a word that ends in “-ing.” And there’s a scene where he makes fun of Daphne’s accent that was pretty enjoyable.

In R133's clip, Mahoney sounds like a Yank doing a bad job of a Mancunian accent.

Nice that he and David Hyde Pierce we're godfathers to Jane Leeves kid and she and Peri Gilpin live next door to each other. Sounds like a happy cast.

I thought he was 77, 25 years ago, and I thought he was already dead

R145 And then there is Kelsey...

I loved him on Frasier. I think the only way a Frasier reboot would work is if it centered around Niles and Daphnes relationship, maybe Frasier has to move in while he has a new house being built. Daphne and Niles child or (children) could also be part of the plot, with one driving Frasier crazy.

I think a reboot with Frasier and Niles's sons Freddie and David might work.

I guess he was like Betty White. One of those people who always have looked “old.”

He looked old and boyish at the same time.

I saw him in Steppenwolf’s The Man Who Came To Dinner, about 1998. He was terribly miscast as Sheridan Whiteside.

R77 Let's see how you feel about that when you are 76. 😉

The classic Cheers episode with Nancy Marchand’s brilliant role as Mrs. Crane ruined Frazier for me. When I tried to watch John Mahoney unbelievably playing an invalid who needed an in home nurse I couldn’t help but think the show’s premise was flawed. But RIP John.

Interesting. I looked up Bernie Dowling and it came up with listings in Oak Park & Forest Park, which was John Mahoney's permanent home. Under family it lists, John Mahoney (and Mahoney Dowling, did they have a cat?) So, I guess you can fool some of the people some of the time but Intelius, never? I guess it's generational...RIP to a wonderful actor.

I met him ages ago (90's) at a post theatre party at a small bar on the near north side of Chicago. It was a small party, and my friend who was the costume designer dragged me along. I had the opportunity to sit next to him and chat a bit; I found him to be a very friendly gentleman. After the party my friend asked what I thought of him, I said great guy! We smoked and drank for a bit, as I didn't know anyone else. Later she told me he was gay: I was absolutely shocked, had not a clue.

I always thought he had a really great smile. He could also look like a meanie when he scowled (Suspect) but his smile was warm and contagious (Moonstruck, Broken Heart’s Club). RIP.

Kelsey Grammer was guest on Graham Norton some time ago. He mentioned that the dog who played 'Eddie' was rather mean and would bite - John Mahoney was actually afraid of the dog due to that behavior although it was not detectable in any of the episodes.

[quote] Any reason his wikipedia page completely avoids talking about his homosexuality?

Because he never officially came out?

The article in the Chicago Tribune put "famously private" somewhere in the first paragraph...all but screaming "closet."

Well, whatever. Maybe he was private. He still seemed like a good egg.

R143, there’s also an episode where he says operetta as “operetter” which was the only time I noticed him pronouncing something more British than American. (The audience probably wrote it off as a Marty Crane silly pronunciation.)

Why don't we update his Wikipedia page, does anyone know his actual partners name?

What part of "he never came out" are you missing, R161?

I'm sorry he wasn't out; that was his perhaps generational and or cultural preference to keep fiercely private. I am happy to hear he had a loving partner to share his life with. They knew they loved each other so that's all that matters.

Agreed R163.... Feel it would be an utter travesty for someone to update/edit his page. Not very respecful in the least. It's not as if he lied to the people close around him, or worked against gay rights. Outing people is tacky and so last century, unless they're a political operative, or politician, or fundie preacher working against us.

One of the funniest episodes of Frasier was when Frasier's new boss mistook Frasier for being gay. Frasier invites the boss to the house, secretly hoping that the boss might be a match for Daphne. The boss assumes that he'll be on a date with Frasier. At the end of the episode, they clear up the fact that Frasier is straight, and then the boss asks Frasier if his dad is gay. The audience laughs. Frasier says no. Then the boss asks about Niles. More laughter from the audience. The writers seemed to be nodding towards it.

My other favorite episode is a two-parter where Frasier is again mistaken for gay (following hilarious scene of Frasier and Niles in a gay bar), and he's tempted to go along with it when one of his suitors is rich and well-connected.

I think I read that his wish was to not have a service after he passed, so he was just a private guy.

The gay episodes were the best. I'm not gay, Guy!

I met John Mahoney ages ago in Toronto when he was promoting a film called "The Broken Hearts Club" he came across as very sweet and down to earth.

R168 I remember that film. HE had a great line in it: "Everyone can't be straight. Everyone can't be beautiful. Everyone can't be the same, Patrick. Some people are just gay and average. We're the strongest I think."

R167 aren't they all?

The local editor of our gay paper is going to try and get Bernie to discuss his partner John, but apparently John refused to ven speak to a gay rag, he was that closeted. How sad.

R171 Allegedly John was a practicing Catholic so part of his closeted life may have to do with his religion. It's said that he never felt he could come out fully.

Maybe he was also afraid the U.S. army would unacknowledge his service if he came out.

IDK, I'm totally just speculating. Maybe he just felt it was nobodies business, or that his job was in the public eye so he wanted his private life out of the public eye.

He was a pretty butch bloke, perhaps he didn't want to risk jeopardizing that image, and lose out on roles.

Is “John Mahoney was so young” turn into a thing like “The sky was so blue that day”?

He was of the old generation, plus Irish Catholic, so not all that surprising that he wanted to remain private about his sexuality. But, his life was pretty much an open book without him actually having to read to the public from it, people knew that he was gay, who his partner is and that they lived together, etc.

Not any more likely than for Tuna Goodwin to become a thing r175.

Quite right R176, what I would describe as discreet.

DL fave Luke Evans tweeted this photo of John with his TV dog, Eddie. I loved that dog. RIP John.

Love that dog and the two of them in that pic.... Perhaps one of the two Eddies was sweet on him.

Wikipedia is not a paid obituary site, so there's no reason not to include the truth on a profile page, especially after the subject has passed away.

r165 failed to mention that the gay manager was played by none other than DL fave Eric Lutes!

allure......

MY grandfather smoked Camels. All Camel smokers had to spit bits of tobacco off their tongue, so you would hear, "ppfflltt, ppfflltt" all the time when they smoked.

[quote]Wikipedia is not a paid obituary site, so there's no reason not to include the truth on a profile page, especially after the subject has passed away.

No, but they are heavily monitored and if you don't have a source for your claim, they'll strike your comment from the main page.

R165, that episode was written by gay writer Joe Keenan, who wrote the hilarious book "Blue Heaven".

60s starlet Pamela Tiffin also grew up in Oak Park.

I grew up on oak bark.

From an interview with Time Out Chicago in 2008:

TOC: In everything I’ve read about you, I haven’t seen any mention of a partner or a romantic life.

John Mahoney: Yeah, it doesn’t exist for me anymore. [Laughs] I think that’s dead and buried. Twenty-three years ago I had cancer of the colon. I had to have major surgery, and I have a colostomy. I really couldn’t have sex after that. I’m very happy by myself and with my friends, but no, I’m definitely not involved with anybody. Nor do I ever look to be.

Though no official cause of death has been disclosed, Steppenwolf Theatre artistic director Anna D. Shapiro, who was a longtime friend of Mr. Mahoney, said he was in frail health in recent months.

“He was fragile and he was supposed to be having a routine procedure. But having just beat Stage 3 throat cancer, I think he was just too weak,” Shapiro said. “And John was incredibly private. He did not like complaining. He suffered a lot of what he suffered, in private. … By the time he did ‘The Rembrandt’ he was clean of cancer. … But other health issues came up and he was just too fragile.”

[quote]I don't think a know a single soul who lived into their 90s - maybe a few bed-bound basket cases, that's all.

I knew at least 5. My grandmothers who passed at 97 and 104. The older of the two was still sipping Bloody Marys with a beer chaser and hitting the local Indian casinos until 3 months before she died (and passed her idle time playing video slots on her iPad), and 3 of her 4 sisters passed the 95 mark still enjoying life until very near the end. I can still remember my little brother's wedding in Vegas in 1999. I took Gram (then 88) and her older sister to Binion's Horseshoe on Fremont Street our last night there because they like the low limits. About 4 AM I decided we needed to head back to our hotel because we had to check out at 11. I found my great aunt (92 at the time) in front of a nickel slot - free cocktail in one hand and a Carlton 120 dangling from her lip. When I told her it was time to leave she informed me it was not happening because "this machine is hot!". We finally got back to our hotel on the strip at 6 AM. I was more exhausted than they were.

According to this article, he died of throat cancer

R183 Eric Lutes was beat off material for me back in the 90s.

Cozi TV has scheduled a special, 13-hour marathon tribute to the late actor John Mahoney this Saturday, Feb. 10, beginning at 9 a.m. ET.

You never know woth cancer. It might have been the cancer that got him, but it also could have been the treatment.

I worked with a really great lady several years ago. DLers would have called her a cube frau but she was a genuinely nice lady--early 40s. She was diagnosed with what we later learned was stage 3 cervical cancer, which is not great news. But after a few months of surgery and chemo, she came back to work rocking hear head scarf. She had totally beat it, and the cancer never returnd.

About five years later, she dropped dead in her home of a heart attack. She was 48. Was so fuc,ing sad and heartbreaking. To go through all that and bear cancer....just to drop dead so young of a heart attqck. But allegedly chemo attacks your body so hard that--even if you survive the cancer part--the chemomitself often gets you.

No I'm sad about her again. Sorry for ranting. But both accounts of his death above could be right.

That happened to Kara Kennedy -- she beat lung cancer with chemo and radiation, but the treatments damaged her heart and she dropped from a heart attack.

He was good on Frasier. RIP.

Your dad yelled at you.

That Cozi tribute is all Frasier episodes, good enough but not a broad sampling of his work.

Bring back Eric Lutes!

[quote]Outing people is tacky and so last century, unless they're a political operative, or politician, or fundie preacher working against us.

Or America's first woman in space.

R195

Cardiomyopathy is a common side effect of chemotherapy. Fucking sucks.

My late partner had cancer in his 20s, survived for 22 more years and died of heart failure.

"Outing people is tacky and so last century, unless they're a political operative, or politician, or fundie preacher working against us."

Treating homosexuality as a dirty secret is so 1955 (and especially silly in this case since he wasn't deeply closeted anyway - it's not like he had a beard wife or something)

OMG. Tears.

It’s very sad that the media continues to closet him. It’s like the eighties again. Disgusting. Do your fucking jobs, media.

Never mind the media, posters here wish to keep him in the closet as well

R205 I don't think it's totally the media's fault. Mahoney never actually came out publicly.

Why can’t you respect an individuals wish? Who are you to dictate someone’s personal decision?

We are not his executors, we don't need to follow his last will and testament

What a douche. Leave the old man in peace. He was out to fellow actors, friends and family. People magazine cover "He was gay!" would accomplish what?

r210, how is saying a person was gay disturbing their "peace"? You sound homophobic. When did it become a sin to tell the truth - isn't that what journalists are supposed to do? No one said anything about a People magazine cover, anyway.

Just read about his death

Seeing this thread also with the mentions of Glenne Headley, I wonder if people realize she died last year as well.

Gayface for days.

Such a charming actor.