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Terry Miller posts photo of his husband and their "son"

I just died a little inside.

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by Anonymousreply 428December 4, 2018 9:22 PM

Nice picture.

by Anonymousreply 1February 4, 2018 11:54 PM

Son looks cute and extremely gay

by Anonymousreply 2February 4, 2018 11:54 PM

Nice pic. OP: some things are just nice.

by Anonymousreply 3February 4, 2018 11:57 PM

He's straight R2! I WILL NOT have a gay child!

by Anonymousreply 4February 4, 2018 11:57 PM

He's cute. Hopefully he doesn't mind being the same age as the Australian Slut Slave "son"

by Anonymousreply 5February 4, 2018 11:58 PM

R2 and R4 are confused.

That's not their son.

That's their "son."

by Anonymousreply 6February 4, 2018 11:58 PM

That’s not DJ, Terry and Dan’s adopted son, but one of their boyfriends.

But you knew that, didn’t you, OP?

I pray when I’m 50 years old, I can attract a hot piece of ass, like the young man behind Dan.

by Anonymousreply 7February 4, 2018 11:59 PM

Why did you put son in quotation marks, OP?

by Anonymousreply 8February 4, 2018 11:59 PM

R5 is also confused.

by Anonymousreply 9February 4, 2018 11:59 PM

R8 is also confused.

R8 the quotation marks are there because that's not their son, it's their "son."

by Anonymousreply 10February 5, 2018 12:00 AM

My comment still stands R6.

by Anonymousreply 11February 5, 2018 12:00 AM

R6 Ok, that makes a lot more sense

by Anonymousreply 12February 5, 2018 12:01 AM

R1 (me) was confused, too. I thought it was a sweet photo of a dad with his son, not his sex slave.

by Anonymousreply 13February 5, 2018 12:01 AM

Is this an institution of LEARNING or a teenage BROTHEL??

by Anonymousreply 14February 5, 2018 12:01 AM

Are there any nudes of the young man?

by Anonymousreply 15February 5, 2018 12:03 AM

Ohhhh that's not DJ? I didn't realize it was one of their "sons." This is all so confusing.

by Anonymousreply 16February 5, 2018 12:03 AM

THIS is why they hate us.

by Anonymousreply 17February 5, 2018 12:04 AM

Another cute "Family" photo

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by Anonymousreply 18February 5, 2018 12:06 AM

just hot

by Anonymousreply 19February 5, 2018 12:07 AM

Well, he's somebody's son, just not theirs.

by Anonymousreply 20February 5, 2018 12:14 AM

And we're so proud!

by Anonymousreply 21February 5, 2018 12:16 AM

You never forget your boy's first dp.

by Anonymousreply 22February 5, 2018 12:17 AM

My special boy is all grown up.

by Anonymousreply 23February 5, 2018 12:18 AM

More of the family...

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by Anonymousreply 24February 5, 2018 12:22 AM

The other "son" in R24 is cute too

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by Anonymousreply 25February 5, 2018 12:27 AM

Why are these two cute af gay "sons" hanging out with these dudes?

by Anonymousreply 26February 5, 2018 12:29 AM

R25 based on social media posts I get the impression that Tom is Terrys boyfriend and the Austrian guy is Dans boy.

by Anonymousreply 27February 5, 2018 12:29 AM

[quote]R20 Well, he's somebody's son...

I don't like where this is heading.

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by Anonymousreply 28February 5, 2018 12:32 AM

Obviously, he will take on the burden of sending them through college.

It's noble.

by Anonymousreply 29February 5, 2018 12:34 AM

Those two are such an embarrassment.

by Anonymousreply 30February 5, 2018 12:36 AM

Dan is handsome. Terry has a rocking bod but is too much the needy narcissist. The man probably owns more pairs of bikini briefs than any man in the history of the world.

by Anonymousreply 31February 5, 2018 12:38 AM

They must go through so much lube.

by Anonymousreply 32February 5, 2018 12:55 AM

Nathan is holding out for richer/better sponsors than these flea bags - at least he should be. But youth is always wasted on the young...

by Anonymousreply 33February 5, 2018 1:22 AM

I want to see the Australian fully nude and having sex on video. He's beautiful.

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by Anonymousreply 34February 5, 2018 2:26 AM

I suppose it's better than the previous photo.

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by Anonymousreply 35February 5, 2018 2:43 AM

Honestly, I cannot figure out why so many of you on this board, which is, I suppose a sampling of the gay community at large so God Damned hypocritical and cunty. We (at least say) that we fight for our right to express ourselves, love who we want, fuck who we want and as much as we want, in whatever situations we want, and set up whatever life paradigm that is right for our particular specific situation, and then the very same people turn around and throw shade on gay men who are actually DOING EXACTLY THAT, and call them an embarrassment. Hey, r30, who are you fucking?

by Anonymousreply 36February 5, 2018 2:51 AM

I agree R36.

by Anonymousreply 37February 5, 2018 3:15 AM

Bootblack P. Titpig at R36 has been TRIGGERED!

by Anonymousreply 38February 5, 2018 3:29 AM

Are they a trouple

by Anonymousreply 39February 5, 2018 3:38 AM

R39 unclear because they don't talk about it. Just hint on instagram. Seems like 4 of them involved in some kind of polyamory family

by Anonymousreply 40February 5, 2018 3:49 AM

Or are they a quaple?

by Anonymousreply 41February 5, 2018 3:50 AM

R41 who knows? But Tom has been with, at least, Terry for a long time. He and Terry even have complimenting tattoos. Not sure how Dan is involved in any of this. It seems like him and the Australian might be more of an item

by Anonymousreply 42February 5, 2018 4:02 AM

R39 I think it's all connected to kink. So their definitans might be different from ours... daddy/son/master/slave/gimp...

by Anonymousreply 43February 5, 2018 4:05 AM

um ok

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by Anonymousreply 44February 5, 2018 5:06 AM

glad he let them dow from the attic

by Anonymousreply 45February 5, 2018 5:16 AM

r44 such a gorgeous black baby boy!

by Anonymousreply 46February 5, 2018 5:19 AM

Yes...all gay men are bitter and jealous we can't have this lifestyle.

Sex obsessed vapid celebrity is the real goal to a happy life!

by Anonymousreply 47February 5, 2018 6:22 AM

Is it his real son?

by Anonymousreply 48February 5, 2018 6:23 AM

OMG....for the 16th time. The dude in the original photo is not their son. It's their piece of ass.

Well. One of them.

by Anonymousreply 49February 5, 2018 6:24 AM

Truly LAUGHABLE. Tom of Finland BDSM kitsch and "quadruples" - what year is this?

Where is their actual adopted son in all this? Isn't it awkward that they are both around DJ's age?

by Anonymousreply 50February 5, 2018 6:44 AM

The boyfriends are well over 21.

DJ is like 18.

by Anonymousreply 51February 6, 2018 10:13 PM

Today in Terry's fabulous world...

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by Anonymousreply 52February 6, 2018 10:16 PM

D.J., the real son, is at least 20.

by Anonymousreply 53February 6, 2018 10:20 PM

Would somebody please take the horribly clichéd R36 back to the 1960's from whence she came (and make sure she stays there).

by Anonymousreply 54February 6, 2018 10:31 PM

Even Christina Crawford wasn't subjected to stuff like this.

by Anonymousreply 55February 6, 2018 10:32 PM

God specifically invented the grease fire for R36.

by Anonymousreply 56February 6, 2018 10:57 PM

R36 spoke truth and you dried up old cunts who nobody wants to fuck anyway just piled on.

I wouldn't fuck any of you with Bea Arthur's dick either.

by Anonymousreply 57February 6, 2018 11:09 PM

I’m obviously an old Puritan. Their sex life is their thing, but I am uncomfortable with the whole “it gets better” message being paired up with a couple that obsessively posts photos of themselves and their tricks naked with S&M gear and #cockmonster hashtags. It’s just really mixed up in my head to think of myself as a 12 year old who was physically abused in school almost every day until my senior year in high school, who stockpiled prescription drugs expecting one day I wouldn’t be able to take life anymore and I would end it all—and then think that these are the people who started an organization that tells kids in that situation, “Hey, kids, don’t worry! It gets better! As long as you become bodybuilders and post public photos of yourself in underwear, you too can get married, have kids and have a sex dungeon and fuck slings for all your random tricks! You can be US! So go ahead and suck it up until high school is over because as long as you’re hot bodied and naked all the time, you’ve got a bright future.”

This couple had a great idea with It Gets Better, but IMO they’ve totally fucked up their own message with this “I’m a sexy naked model in nipple clamps” shit. No.

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by Anonymousreply 58February 6, 2018 11:09 PM

I may be in the minority here, but I have less derision for Terry and Dan for enjoying young flesh than the twinks who go after these daddies. What are they thinking? Dan is a very fuckable 53 and I might be a 25 who would be fine to do him as a one off but stick around and have some sort of boy toy relationship??? Terry and Dan are married to each others. These man-boys aren't going to get jack squat out of it.

by Anonymousreply 59February 6, 2018 11:47 PM

R59 Not true. Lots of man-boys get off simply from Instgram likes. Well, look at all the likes—over 9,000!!—the boy toy got for his photo with Master Dan, sandwiched between Terry’s buttplug post and Terry’s “King Dick” post. The boytoy got a mere 1,000 likes for a photo he posted on his own Instagram account with Butt Plug King Dick Master Terry. So there you have it: instant Instagram ego satisfaction.

I feel really sorry for the kid they are raising. Call me conservative but I just do. I can’t imagine walking around knowing my parents are posting pictures of themselves licking butt plugs with King Dick tee shirts and posing together with their tricks who are my age. Like WTF, seriously. It may not be child abuse but it’s child mindfuckery for sure.

by Anonymousreply 60February 6, 2018 11:56 PM

Maybe what you see is a couple with established boundaries seemingly living their truth the way they want to and that for some reason makes you uncomfortable.

by Anonymousreply 61February 6, 2018 11:56 PM

You have a point but again, its not great that some twinks are living for instagram likes. Very few of them will make fortunes like the handful who have managed to, as social media stars.

by Anonymousreply 62February 7, 2018 12:01 AM

Maybe R61. It’s become clear as the years pass that I am a serious weirdo among other gay men because I just find a never-ending obsession with sex to be tiresome, and at a certain point qualities other than pecs and abs and cocks have taken precedence. Seeing sex-obsessed 50 year olds putting their constant “we’re fuckable and we fuck new people every day!!! message out there, mixed up with “Hey bullied kids, life gets better!” challenges my conventions further than I can will them to budge.

by Anonymousreply 63February 7, 2018 12:02 AM

I understand the argument that there is no such thing as a home wrecker but they are all playing with fire and yes, one can turn into a home wrecker if you stick around all the time. Young women do this, to, as future trophy wives. Terry is obviously going through his mid-life crisis and by the looks of that picture, Dan could be having one as well. They are vulnerable, as would at twink being around a daddy figure who is a lot wiser and worldly.

by Anonymousreply 64February 7, 2018 12:04 AM

R64 How can you tell Terry’s midlife crisis from his pre-midlife crisis? Or has he just been in a midlife crisis for the past decade?

by Anonymousreply 65February 7, 2018 12:05 AM

typos. train.

do this, too

Dan and Terry are vuinerable, as would be any twink being around a daddy.....

by Anonymousreply 66February 7, 2018 12:05 AM

[quote]Maybe what you see is a couple with established boundaries seemingly living their truth the way they want to and that for some reason makes you uncomfortable.

Maybe what I see is a couple being a pair of social media embarrassments like a Gen-X version of Courtney Stodden.

by Anonymousreply 67February 7, 2018 12:07 AM

Terry's has been going on for sometime :) I dont think he has financial independence.

by Anonymousreply 68February 7, 2018 12:07 AM

I got the impression last year Terry was QUITE attached to his boy toy.

by Anonymousreply 69February 7, 2018 12:08 AM

Question: How do you guys see this photo? To me, it’s embarrassing and sad that an adult man would be so desperate for attention that he would resort to posts like this—photo, boytoy and caption—regardless of his fitness level. I suspect that many gay men find this aspirational, though—a life they’d love to have. What’s your take?

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by Anonymousreply 70February 7, 2018 12:09 AM

I wish Dan Savage would pose with his blouse off once in a while. He's got a nice body, he should show it off.

by Anonymousreply 71February 7, 2018 12:10 AM

My take R70 is that you must be some ignorant straight frau cunt slag who has no idea about what being a hot gay man is like. Don't you have something to clean, or something to cook somewhere?

by Anonymousreply 72February 7, 2018 12:11 AM

What a bunch of NEEDY lightweights.

by Anonymousreply 73February 7, 2018 12:12 AM

R71 Maybe Dan has a crazy notion that if he wants to be taken seriously as a writer and social commentator at age 50something, he probably shouldn’t post the sorts of photos drunken sorority girls do. Because even sorority girls get embarrassed about those photos if/when they sober up. Just a crazy theory.

by Anonymousreply 74February 7, 2018 12:12 AM

I think the boy toy is hot. I’d love to see his cock.

by Anonymousreply 75February 7, 2018 12:13 AM

The level of condenscending cunts here is stagerring. You talk like these are five year olds. They're adults. Leave them alone. If they want to be boy toys so be it.

by Anonymousreply 76February 7, 2018 12:13 AM

Well R74, apparently he's not pathologically worried about being taken seriously all the time.

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by Anonymousreply 77February 7, 2018 12:15 AM

The answer to your question R36, is jealousy.

95% of DLers are old, fat, envious and they’ve not been touched by a man in 20 years.

Don’t take these pearl clutching judgers seriously. Instead read between the lines, and indulge your cruel sense of humor.

by Anonymousreply 78February 7, 2018 12:17 AM

[quote]Question: How do you guys see this photo? To me, it’s embarrassing and sad that an adult man would be so desperate for attention that he would resort to posts like this—photo, boytoy and caption—regardless of his fitness level. I suspect that many gay men find this aspirational, though—a life they’d love to have. What’s your take?

r70, I think it's the equivalent of this photo.

If I had a body like Terry's, I wouldn't behave that way. Similarly, if I had a bank account like Trump's, I wouldn't behave this way either.

In both cases it's more than a little embarrassing and speaks to a deep insecurity.

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by Anonymousreply 79February 7, 2018 12:17 AM

These people are cartoon characters?

by Anonymousreply 80February 7, 2018 12:18 AM

Dans guns! Terry is hot too. Nobody is questioning that. Its part jealousy my curiosity, but I really have seen couples blown apart at this age from the whoring around with others. They fall in "fresh" love and mr or mrs old reliable gets tossed. Yeah yeah, thats the way the cookie crumbles, if one relationship is used up, move on.

by Anonymousreply 81February 7, 2018 12:23 AM

R79 That’s a great analogy to represent how I feel. Never would have thought to describe it that way. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 82February 7, 2018 12:24 AM

Being gay isn't important enough for all the effort they put in to it!

by Anonymousreply 83February 7, 2018 12:37 AM

Dan and Terry: D.J., meet our new boyfriend, your new stepfather.

D.J.: Uh, actually, we already know each other. We went to high school together.

by Anonymousreply 84February 7, 2018 12:40 AM

I find middle aged men who are sex obsessed and narcisstic kind of offputting but there sure are a lot of them. It's very easy to avoid them, they are very obvious.

Dan still gives reasonably good advice, but in real life he is not a kind person.

by Anonymousreply 85February 7, 2018 12:41 AM

These two are such trash. That they have any kind of a following is an embarrassment to gay men.

by Anonymousreply 86February 7, 2018 12:42 AM

R83 Yes! That too! Good God, I am gay but that doesn’t have to mean I am a sex-obsessed exhibitionist.

I truly would not give a shit about either of them (I wouldn’t even know that Terry exists) if they didn’t make themselves the faces of the It Gets Better campaign. Bullied/abused gay kids are attacked by other kids because they can’t conform to straight-boy expectations. So that’s why it bothers me that Terry and Dan conform entirely, to an almost comical degree, to gay-boy expectations. So I feel like the message they are sending boils down to “if you can’t be a straight jock, don’t worry about it; it gets better as long as you can be a muscular gay sex slave.” It just is totally contrary to what a younger version of me would have needed.

by Anonymousreply 87February 7, 2018 12:45 AM

Chronologically they may be adults but psychologically they are very damaged 16 year olds who are doing everything they can to set gay rights back decades.

I am deeply embarrassed that you shriveled dickheads who support them seem to think that this is some sort of liberated behavior when it is just boys on the cusp of social security benefits whoring themselves out for attention.

Gay Kardashians in leather jockstraps.

by Anonymousreply 88February 7, 2018 12:48 AM

R86 Well they sure generate a lot of buzz among the gay men here. Dare to criticize these men who put themselves on display like human peacocks, and their defenders are quick to call you jealous and fat and a “frau.” I do wonder what sorts of people are on the other ends of this message board. I imagine half a schlumpy middle aged or older gay men with a lot of resentment that they’ve gotten older, some are sex-obsessed gym freaks who are ashamed that gay men who don’t look like porn stars exist, some are probably unbearably catty and quick to react defensively in real life. I wonder how many carry on everyday conversations about topics other than the gym and bareback sex and skincare products and partisan identity politics. Still wondering what the hell happened to creative, artistic gay people. They were the only ones I heard of growing up and now all gay men seem to be Crossfit junkies who harbor extreme hatred to any nonconforming beauty.

by Anonymousreply 89February 7, 2018 12:51 AM

R76 - they are putting themselves out on the street. You can't simultaneously say "look at me, look at me" and also "don't judge me, don't judge me". If they don't want their business talked about, keep it private.

by Anonymousreply 90February 7, 2018 12:51 AM

WW R90

by Anonymousreply 91February 7, 2018 12:52 AM

R90 you have just revealed yourself to be dickhead.

by Anonymousreply 92February 7, 2018 12:52 AM

Look at me!

Love me!

Love me!

Do you love me?

Do I turn you on?

Do I look under 30?!

What if I take my clothes off with a 25 year old?? NOW do I look under 30??!

Will you love me if I take more clothes off?

I have always known I am a star! I am beautiful! But I am getting fat! I’ll do an extra 500 calories on the elliptical tomorrow, but maybe it’s time for lipo. I looked less than perfect a few pictures ago. No one loves less than perfect.

It’ll get better, Terry. It’ll get better.

Just be MORE PERFECT!!!

by Anonymousreply 93February 7, 2018 12:58 AM

Why? You don't think Terry wants to be talked about? I was responding to the guy chastising us-- those foolios put it out there for comment. And people will comment.

by Anonymousreply 94February 7, 2018 12:58 AM

If one of those twinks really falls in love, he'll be in for a rude awakening in 5 years when they both fall off the cliff. The wall is COMING.

by Anonymousreply 95February 7, 2018 1:00 AM

Terry’s self-worth is too tightly tied to his appearance. Terry will look like this by age 55, mark my words.

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by Anonymousreply 96February 7, 2018 1:03 AM

R96 Joan Rivers trans

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by Anonymousreply 98February 7, 2018 1:09 AM

The son's sweater matches Dan Savage's hair

Is it made of the fur of aborted lamb fetuses, like the karakul hat?

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by Anonymousreply 99February 7, 2018 1:21 AM

My favorite part of his instagram is when he gets worked up over the comments. Dan shrugs off the haters. His husband not so much

by Anonymousreply 100February 7, 2018 3:36 AM

]quote]R54 Would somebody please take the horribly clichéd [R36] back to the 1960's from whence she came (and make sure she stays there).

Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 101February 7, 2018 4:01 AM

R69 well, they got daddy/son tattoos. And I see more of him than Dan on his instagram

by Anonymousreply 102February 7, 2018 4:17 AM

25 year olds get more Instagram likes. That's why.

by Anonymousreply 103February 7, 2018 4:23 AM

R103 he's not quite 25 yet. The throuple is in Palm Springs celebrating his 24th Birthday

by Anonymousreply 104February 11, 2018 8:32 PM

Sophisticated and young, young, YOUNG!

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by Anonymousreply 105February 11, 2018 9:39 PM

Has anyone ever seen a picture of DJ? I'm starting to think he's a myth. I've never heard of a straight couple hiding their offspring. Then again maybe the kid is embarrassed.

by Anonymousreply 106February 11, 2018 10:08 PM

R93 You're close, but you forgot the

Look at me!

WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME FOR?????

schizophrenia that goes on with him.

Terry is a bottomless pit - in many, many ways - that will never be filled.

by Anonymousreply 107February 11, 2018 10:14 PM

I think this is a pic of DJ (from a long time ago). I do feel he will need lots of therapy, sadly.

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by Anonymousreply 108February 11, 2018 10:37 PM

How much are Terry & Dan paying their 2 new 'sons'?

Their real adopted son, DJ, must be livid. His parents are blowing his inheritance on thirsty BDSM sluts!

by Anonymousreply 109February 11, 2018 10:38 PM

There are lots of great gay couples looking to adopt. I wonder how Dan and Terry manbabies got approved.

by Anonymousreply 110February 11, 2018 10:40 PM

Not your circus, not your monkeys bitches

by Anonymousreply 111February 11, 2018 10:44 PM

BTW, DJ's full name is Daryl Jude Pierce, b. 1998.

by Anonymousreply 112February 11, 2018 10:46 PM

R20 reminds me of the old song lyric-

"She got herself a husband, be he wasn't hers."

by Anonymousreply 113February 11, 2018 10:46 PM

Dan and Terry adopted their two new manbabies at age 20. Is there going to be a baby shower for the new happy family?

by Anonymousreply 114February 11, 2018 11:38 PM

With their real son back in 2015

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by Anonymousreply 115February 11, 2018 11:40 PM

I will bet cash money that their actual son hates them because they are needy, thirsty attention whores. And Terry, you know you obsessively work out and pose in small scraps of Lycra because all the elliptical in the world doesn't change the fact that you are so ugly in the face that it is irritating. Get some plastic surgery or some shit, damn!

by Anonymousreply 116February 11, 2018 11:49 PM

Well, I guess they are officially a throuple

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by Anonymousreply 117February 11, 2018 11:52 PM

Terry's definitely overcompensating.

by Anonymousreply 118February 12, 2018 12:26 AM

To each their own... but those arms don't do it for me. I thought he was much sexier before he became a gym-bunny/daddy/tom of finland stan

by Anonymousreply 119February 12, 2018 12:39 AM

I know way too many aging old homos who insist on acting like sex crazed 22 year olds WAAAAY past their expiration date.

Yes. Having a healthy sex life is great and sex should hopefully always be an important part of our lives.

But, when EVERYTHING in your life revolves around the pursuit of it....sheesh. Not very healthy. Obsession with sex is just as bad as an obsession with drugs or booze or eating two boxes of Hostess Cupcakes everyday.

And, frankly, I don't need to see you post constantly about your latest obsession with fisting, or leather, or bears, or counting down the days until you get to go to PS to eat buckets of hot bear cum...especially when you're a 53 year old man with teenaged kids who are old enough to stumble across Dad acting like a stupid horny whore making questionable life choices.

by Anonymousreply 120February 13, 2018 7:04 AM

when my friend Ross makes air quotes I don' t know what that means.

by Anonymousreply 121February 13, 2018 7:21 AM

I'm not an American so I don't really know much about Dan Savage or see him as some kind of figurehead or gay truth teller. I also steer clear of Instagram so I am, in the main, blissfully unaware of the hos and influencers. But looking at the pics here I'm struck by the lack of imagination on show. There's no new vision of being an attractive and sexual middle aged person just rinse and repeat of what worked in your twenties to forties. The young houseboys or whatever they are just seem to be there to confirm that these old farts have still got it, that being attractive and sexual is solely about being attractive and sexual to twenty somethings. It's a similar sort of problem I have with Madonna. I was never the biggest fan of hers but I thought around the Ray of Light period she was gearing up for an interesting third act but it turned into the same tit and bum routine with twenty more years on the clock. The idea that we are all fat jealous bitches who would give our right arms to be looking and living like the chaps above lacks as much imagination as Terry and his tittays. I had my wild slut years but at 52 I've moved on. I'm interested in other people my age forging new ways of being in the latter part of our lives. Good luck to Dan and Terry but looking at all the sexy underwear butt plugs and Muir caps just leaves me feeling very Peggy Lee-ish. Is that all there is to a circus?

by Anonymousreply 122February 13, 2018 8:40 AM

When I see them, all I can think is that if I were a Westboro evangelist type who screams about the fuckuppedness of gay marriage and argued that gay men are unhealthfully obsessed with sex in such a way that would corrupt children and the parent-child relationship...well, I would send a thank-you letter to Dan Savage for putting these pictures into the public domain.

Even this nonreligious gay person feels like there should be some sort of integrity to the family dynamic, and that anyone who decides to become a parent has an obligation to grow the fuck up and prioritize raising a balanced kid who can operate withing the social structure at large. I don’t understand why the average person who condemns LDS polygamist cults that subject minors to sexual objectification, premature exposure to sex, etc. wouldn’t take issue with this couple, regardless of their sexuality, talking and writing publicly about their parenting and associating themselves with gay civil rights, simultaneously posting pictures of slings, buttplugs, COCK KING tee shirts and underwear with penises printed on them as they pose with their young consorts/whores.

I guess I am just too too traditional for today’s world, but I am SO grateful that my parents focused mostly on their family and raising kids. I wince when I imagine being raised by such self-involved characters who exploit themselves to satisfy their narcissistic hunger for attention and adulation. It’s so fucking weird to me and it embarrasses me as a gay man because I am a freak of nature who finds so much more interest in life than simply living to fuck. Did Dan and Terry read to their son when he was a kid, or just show off their new underwear and fill the house with groans after they put him to sleep? Did they take him to museums, zoos, etc.? The only public image they project is body body body fuck fuck fuck and that to me is an insult to life itself, which offers so much more, and it’s a huge disconnect with raising a kid. I was also one of those bullied gay kids for whom “it gets better,” and part of the reason I was belittled is that in people’s minds, gay people are reduced to a subhuman status—imp, fashion maven, sex puppy or sex daddy—instead of just another human being who happens to prefer penis to vagina. And Dan Savage and his old trophy husband are aggressively working to make sure gay men are not seen by others as fully human—they want us to see ourselves as porn stars and other sex workers, and to that I say go fuck yourselves dead.

by Anonymousreply 123February 13, 2018 10:30 AM

R123 stop being so heteronormative! /s

by Anonymousreply 124February 13, 2018 10:40 AM

R124 Is that what I am? If gay men agree that the gay life experience should be dedicated to working out, fucking, and autoerotic self-appreciation via social media, then I may actually look into conversion therapy. I am not even kidding at this point.

Life is so strange. First I was a creative, well-liked kid. Then I was a gay kid, called faggot etc and bashed about in school buses, hallways and classrooms without a single adult ever intervening—and when people asked if I was gay, I never denied it because I didn’t feel comfortable lying and I was never ashamed of my nature thanks to the support of my (all hetero) family, who always told me I am worth loving for who I am. Then I was a gay, happy college student who was no longer abused, no longer quiet, and intellectually stimulated. And then in my 20s, suddenly being a gay man carried the expectations of other gay men and straight people alike that my only interests in life should be bodybuilding and fucking and looking miraculously younger than other people my age. I’ve always been interested in science and art, and never aspired to be a porn star or a Kardashian, and nowadays that makes me feel like a pariah. It makes me unspeakably sad that this Terry creature and Dan Savage are leading a movement to convert gay kids from cowering, self-hating boys to by-the-numbers conformist sexbots. It’s grotesque to me. Sex is a part of life. It’s not the only thing to live for. Is that really a heteronormative point of view?

by Anonymousreply 125February 13, 2018 10:57 AM

R125 nah, I was being sarcastic. I kind of feel like the gay identity and expectation mirrors Terry's transformation. He used to be skinny and effeminate and sassy and cool, and now he's this. My early relationship with being gay didn't have as much to do with sex as it did being an outsider, being the goth kid being the nerd and yes falling in love with my male classmates. But I'm becoming increasingly distant from the gay community. I don't fit in with the homogenized groupthink

by Anonymousreply 126February 13, 2018 11:09 AM

[quote]But I'm becoming increasingly distant from the gay community. I don't fit in with the homogenized groupthink

I’ve literally felt like an outlier since I came out. It was a much bigger deal in my youth, but as I’ve gotten older, I sometimes think about how much I most likely missed out on trying to prove something that really doesn’t matter. Enh, I don't know....why can't it be easy?

Anyway, I truly respect anybody’s need to have children, but I’m still just not used to seeing gay male couples with children. It just screams “assimilate” to me--but loudly….like a Dalek. It’s just not something that was even considered in my socialization into the "Community."

by Anonymousreply 127February 13, 2018 11:37 AM

R127 I'm kind of the opposite heteronormativity and family life and monogamy come natural to me. Along with being weird and artsy. It doesn't feel like assimilation to me, it just feels like who I am.

by Anonymousreply 128February 13, 2018 11:41 AM

DJ recently went off to college,he is less than 20.

He was living at home when they were advertising their sex attic, located over his bedroom, and mummification.

by Anonymousreply 129February 13, 2018 11:43 AM

I don’t care what these two do & you all are overstating their supposed roles as leaders - it gets better was a long time ago now - but why do they want to post pics & tell the world about it?

by Anonymousreply 130February 13, 2018 11:48 AM

R130 I don't know. Dan was a fairly important author and leader for civil rights. For marriage equality and for the normalization of gay relationships. Which is why I'm a little confused that he's not addressing his personal experiences with polyamory. He was very forthcoming with his marriage and his family before they opened up. And he gives advice for poly people but doesn't talk about his personal experiences in it. I want to know what his feelings are about legal definitions of poly relationships, and how he navigated the issue of having a kid and introducing another partner and now their Dynamic work

by Anonymousreply 131February 13, 2018 11:53 AM

Ah but that might impinge on the income and adulation he receives from the masses for his writing. NPR might not have him on to chat about fatherhood anymore.

To me it feels like adopting was just another prop, narcissistic outlet, etc. He commoditized it with "The Kid" and other writing, even exploiting the story of DJ' s birth mother. Shades of things to come, they are narcissists with no boundaries.

by Anonymousreply 132February 13, 2018 12:17 PM

I'm confused whether Tom is Terry's boyfriend and Dan just puts up with it and is a happy backseat driver. Or whether they're in a throuple. I think it's the former

by Anonymousreply 133February 13, 2018 12:19 PM

I don't give two fucks about the psychology behind these two (or three) or what motivates them. I enjoy looking at their two dimensional presence occasionally and admire their bodies as aspirational when I am their age. If being middle aged sex freaks chasing after younger hot ass is their thing, I applaud them for pursuing and attaining that. What do I care if that doesn't bring them total satisfaction. And Dan can still give some sage advice and still be an immature slut at the same time. Why do we get so judge mental? I don't personally know either one so how do I know what to think of either. Two dimensionally they appeal to me and I'd like to see Dan shirtless and Terry's porno. That's about it for my interest in either one.

by Anonymousreply 134February 13, 2018 12:45 PM

R134 oh please, they put themselves out there in the spotlight for good and for bad. And they make a living off of judging and dissecting other people's personal personas. they're all three big boys they can handle it.

by Anonymousreply 135February 13, 2018 12:58 PM

R135 - where did I say they couldn't handle it? My point is why are so many people wasting their energy analyzing these two social media narcissists? Take it for what it is, mindless entertainment. We are as stupid as they are if we are taking them as seriously as they take themselves.

by Anonymousreply 136February 13, 2018 1:03 PM

R136 a lot of mainstream media treats them as serious commentators on gay life. And a lot of queer media treats them as profits. All that being said, Dan Savage gives out some great advice

by Anonymousreply 137February 13, 2018 1:10 PM

Time and gravity are relentless, what then, I wonder?

Terry was a store clerk, then SAHD, now Kartrashian wanna be. His midlife crisis will crash hard, there isn't much inner life. Dan used to complain about his shopping, wonder how he will support himself when saggy?

by Anonymousreply 138February 13, 2018 1:16 PM

Enough of Terry. I want to see a naked Dan and his big shaved daddy dick skull-fucking a twink til he pukes.

by Anonymousreply 139February 13, 2018 1:22 PM

Um ....... hawt?

by Anonymousreply 140February 13, 2018 1:29 PM

o for gods sake theyr living their fukin lives.

enjoy it!!!!

by Anonymousreply 141February 13, 2018 1:30 PM

Some of you missed the 1000 memos that these 2 are into S&M. Terry is probably superficially engaged but I put money on Dan being an enthusiastic role player.

by Anonymousreply 142February 13, 2018 1:34 PM

R142 oh I'm sure he's into it.

by Anonymousreply 143February 13, 2018 1:41 PM

Yeah we all have our turn-ons, but we don’t all post them on instagram to impress our colleagues and family members.

by Anonymousreply 144February 13, 2018 1:42 PM

Riddled with STDs.

by Anonymousreply 145February 13, 2018 2:25 PM

Puppy and bone gag.

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by Anonymousreply 146February 13, 2018 2:57 PM

R146 who is that supposed to be?

by Anonymousreply 147February 13, 2018 3:04 PM

Its just a random puppy with a bone gag.

by Anonymousreply 148February 13, 2018 3:06 PM

R146 the kid looks cute/sexy but puppy play ruins it for me

by Anonymousreply 149February 13, 2018 3:38 PM

Too bad there's not an Olympics douchebag competition.

These three are gold medal winners all the way.

by Anonymousreply 150February 13, 2018 5:16 PM

Ok R149 that's good to know.

by Anonymousreply 151February 13, 2018 5:17 PM

[quote]Terry was a store clerk

"From Shopbottom to America's Top Bottom Model: The Terry Miller Story"

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by Anonymousreply 152February 13, 2018 10:17 PM

Anyone save the videos they posted from The Attic for Men?

Can you imagine coming home from college break and navigating this for your holidays? Never mind, at least the Australian, if not others, was being mummified in the attic when DJ lived at home in HS.

It Gets Better DJ, maybe you can live away for the summer break...

by Anonymousreply 153February 14, 2018 12:57 AM

I'm sure DJ's used to all of the crazy.

by Anonymousreply 154February 14, 2018 12:59 AM

Oh the attic for men and the Australian slut slave. What a happy family.

by Anonymousreply 155February 14, 2018 1:02 AM

Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother grew up in Glamis Castle where there was once a monstrous heir living in captivity in secret rooms. Of course Terry and Dan have impeccable taste in fetching slaveboys.

by Anonymousreply 156February 14, 2018 1:09 AM

I guess this is what happens when you don’t work for a living.

by Anonymousreply 157February 14, 2018 1:23 AM

Maybe they could make an AHS season about the Savage "House of Horrors."

by Anonymousreply 158February 14, 2018 1:34 AM

R153 how do we know "The Attic For Men" was in their house? They might have kept it far away.

by Anonymousreply 159February 14, 2018 1:51 AM

There was proof on some of the old threads, it was/is literally, their attic.

by Anonymousreply 160February 14, 2018 2:06 AM

I will also bet that their kid hates and is extremely fucked up about sex. I can't picture either of these two shallow idiots taking a minute out of their busy fabulous lives to give a shut about a kid. He'll go to college and literally never look back.

by Anonymousreply 161February 14, 2018 2:12 AM

R160 really?

by Anonymousreply 162February 14, 2018 2:16 AM

I think someone matched a window in one of "The Attic" pics with the outside of their house in Seattle.

by Anonymousreply 163February 14, 2018 2:30 AM

If straight parents mixed social media posts about their kids with explicit selfies with sex gear and a heavy rotation of naked slut “toys,” those parents would he investigated for child endangerment. Fortunately for Dan Savage, it is homophobic to accuse gay parents of child endangerment.

by Anonymousreply 164February 14, 2018 4:37 PM

R15 I think he and Terry did a porn together. A couple people here have seen it, but it's not on the internet.

by Anonymousreply 165February 14, 2018 6:32 PM

can i suk terrys dik for $500? anyone had him?

by Anonymousreply 166February 15, 2018 12:42 AM

^ You can 'suk terrys dik' but you make the $500 cheque out to the mysterious Tom of Finland Foundation.

by Anonymousreply 167February 15, 2018 12:45 AM

R166 how much u wanna bet they make hookups/slaves sign NDAs?

by Anonymousreply 168February 15, 2018 12:55 AM

how do i meet him when he next in frisco?

I WANT HIM

by Anonymousreply 169February 15, 2018 1:03 AM

R169 DM him on Instagram. Tell him you’re rich and under 30 and have a ten inch dick and a big bag of meth. He’ll give you his address.

by Anonymousreply 170February 15, 2018 1:06 AM

Young, young, YOUNG!

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by Anonymousreply 171February 16, 2018 9:33 PM

No, queen. Real "studs" don't go prancing and mincing around in a hot pink ensemble like the one Miss Thing is sporting at R171.

by Anonymousreply 172February 16, 2018 9:45 PM

I think he looks fun in R171 and my my my the body is tight.

by Anonymousreply 173February 16, 2018 11:30 PM

He looks like Down Under Andy Cohen. Which is not a compliment.

by Anonymousreply 174February 16, 2018 11:32 PM

R122 nails it.

by Anonymousreply 175March 10, 2018 10:11 AM

R123

Co-fucking-sign. Poor kid. I would be soooo fucking embarrassed if those were my parents.

by Anonymousreply 176March 29, 2018 11:23 PM

Will Terry co-sign a loan for me?

by Anonymousreply 177March 30, 2018 12:57 AM

Mutton, no matter how well-preserved, suffers when placed next to lamb.

That said, Mrs. Dan has achieved a lovely shade of Trump.

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by Anonymousreply 178March 30, 2018 9:22 PM

^daddy and son

by Anonymousreply 179March 30, 2018 11:44 PM

This is just bizarre.

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by Anonymousreply 180April 6, 2018 9:50 PM

R180

He talks like he was in an accident. Was he?

by Anonymousreply 181April 6, 2018 11:14 PM

He looks like he's made of cheap plastic.

by Anonymousreply 182April 7, 2018 12:37 AM

Super Elastic Terry Plastic.

by Anonymousreply 183April 7, 2018 2:43 AM

I wonder if Terry gives off the same toxic chemical smell as Super Elastic Bubble Plastic?

by Anonymousreply 184April 7, 2018 5:30 PM

You have to look in the mirror to get the total MARY! of this photo.

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by Anonymousreply 185April 10, 2018 12:51 AM

Dan's enthusiasm for Terry's exhibitionism just shines in this photo.

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by Anonymousreply 186April 10, 2018 6:56 PM

What Mrs. Dan Savage wore to Coachella to blend in with the young 'uns.

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by Anonymousreply 187April 24, 2018 10:17 PM

So young!

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by Anonymousreply 188May 1, 2018 1:39 AM

[quote]This is my “auf dem Weg zu Kaffee und Kuchen” look. I may be too much for Vienna. Getting stares....

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by Anonymousreply 189May 14, 2018 6:32 PM

Looking at these pics, I think grizzled is the word for today. Yes, grizzled.

by Anonymousreply 190May 14, 2018 6:36 PM

My feminine penis is soaking looking at Terry. It's a hate crime that he hasn't let me mount him.

by Anonymousreply 191May 14, 2018 6:46 PM

I'M SO YOUNG...LOOK AT HOW YOUNG I AM!!!

by Anonymousreply 192May 14, 2018 7:18 PM

That has to be steroids, right? That chest?

by Anonymousreply 193May 14, 2018 7:29 PM

That has to be every muscle-building drug known to humankind R193.

by Anonymousreply 194May 14, 2018 7:49 PM

Terry is hot!

DJ has the most awesome parents in the world!

by Anonymousreply 195May 14, 2018 8:14 PM

The haters like r64 need to get back to the nunnery, or the mosque or whatever Pleasureless Lie Factory hatched them.

by Anonymousreply 196May 14, 2018 8:26 PM

Doesn’t look like It Gets Better to me. Looks like Coping with Adolescent Traumas with Anabolic Drugs.

by Anonymousreply 197May 14, 2018 8:39 PM

It only gets better if you're rich or famous or both R197 Dan and Terry left that part out.

by Anonymousreply 198May 14, 2018 10:13 PM

R198 “It Gets Better” seems to have evolved from a message of “people will stop demeaning you after high school” to “you can get fucked a lot if you get really jacked.”

by Anonymousreply 199May 14, 2018 10:16 PM

An alluring facial expression

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by Anonymousreply 200May 18, 2018 7:40 PM

Yeah, he just screams role model.

by Anonymousreply 201May 19, 2018 11:24 PM

This look is a bit [italic]jeune homme[/italic] when you're in your mid-fifties.

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by Anonymousreply 202May 22, 2018 8:51 PM

[quote]R137 All that being said, Dan Savage gives out some great advice

From Ann Landers' [italic] Chicago Sun-Times [/italic] office desk, bought at auction.

(He also got her IBM electric typewriter.)

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by Anonymousreply 203May 22, 2018 9:03 PM

I wonder what kind of relationship they have with DJ at this point. They haven't mentioned him awhile, AFAIK

by Anonymousreply 204May 22, 2018 10:39 PM

If you were their son would you want to be seen with them R204?

by Anonymousreply 205May 23, 2018 11:58 PM

Uses to be that only Terry talked about his "boy". But Dan has been posting pics of the bf recently. Has it transitioned from Terry has a bf to a throuple?

by Anonymousreply 206May 29, 2018 1:04 AM

I always wonder what their real kid thinks about his two dads. He probably jerks to their Instagram.

by Anonymousreply 207May 29, 2018 1:13 AM

This is so awful on so many levels!

by Anonymousreply 208May 29, 2018 1:23 AM

How long have they been together now?

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by Anonymousreply 209May 29, 2018 1:48 AM

I FFed OP. Just because.

by Anonymousreply 210May 29, 2018 1:53 AM

That's just gross!

by Anonymousreply 211May 29, 2018 12:54 PM

Will Shill For Free Donuts, Apparently

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by Anonymousreply 212June 4, 2018 7:38 PM

Whorelina

by Anonymousreply 213June 4, 2018 7:51 PM

Jesus what a whore!

by Anonymousreply 214June 4, 2018 9:55 PM

Looking somber in a black brassiere.

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by Anonymousreply 215June 6, 2018 8:47 PM

I find all these posters hilarious who call Terry and Dan attention whores in their "Look at me! I am so special and so respectable I am in a position to judge them! Yes, I am! Jealous, bitches?" comments.

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by Anonymousreply 216June 6, 2018 9:21 PM

I've read Dan's columns for a long time. And I've seen a noticeable increase in letters from people in poly relationships. Almost every Savage Love has a poly element in one of the letters. I can get about halfway through reading most of them before the unnecessary drama these people put themselves through makes me dizzy. I must admit I read his articles much less often than I did 6 or 7 years ago

by Anonymousreply 217June 7, 2018 9:15 PM

Mentally mature adults can have great relationships. Immature and insecure adults will only have drama and tears in their relationships. Mature adults can have an open relationship where both partners set out rules, obey them, and remain honest to each other. Immature and insecure adults can't make open relationships, or any relationship, work with their co-dependency and conditional love issues.

by Anonymousreply 218June 8, 2018 7:24 AM

R218 open, yes. I'm talking about the letters where people have 2, 3, 4 partners

by Anonymousreply 219June 8, 2018 5:00 PM

R217 one of his last SavageLove's was about a married gay couple who introduced their boyfriend to their parents. What's weird is that often Dan will use examples from his personal life to answer letters. But he never talks about Tom. He doesn't say how he told his family he is now part of a throuple. He doesn't say how they told their son. But he's talked about every other aspect of their lives

by Anonymousreply 220June 20, 2018 3:22 AM

god dam he hot as fuk!!!!

best nipples west of dixie…..

by Anonymousreply 221June 20, 2018 4:01 AM

I’m chronically single, so I only know what I see, but I don’t know one gay couple (male or female) personally who isn’t in an open relationship. In one case, I used to work with a super-pretentious guy who is all about public appearances and his squeaky-clean image is integral to his professional world. A coworker has remained friends with him and she updated me a year or so ago that he is dating some super-wealthy foreign person who takes him on whirlwind weekend trips to Paris and gets him home by Sunday night. About a month ago, I spotted him on Scruff with a profile indicating his open relationship.

From what I see, there just is not any monogamy among gay men, and that includes both openly and gay guys who are out about being gay but on the DL about their strangerfukkin.

To me, there’s little difference practically between polyamory and saying you’re with someone but riding dicks door to door all over your town. Both reject the common expectation of monogamy, but one perhaps is a little more honest than the other.

by Anonymousreply 222June 20, 2018 10:50 AM

are ther nudes of him with his adopted sons? they seem so close...

by Anonymousreply 223June 20, 2018 11:02 AM

R223 Are his kids adults? If not, then wait for him to celebrate their 18th birthdays on an OnlyFans account...

by Anonymousreply 224June 20, 2018 11:05 AM

R224 i think his son is two years younger than his bf

by Anonymousreply 225June 20, 2018 11:58 AM

I wonder if they're going to have some kind of announcement or ceremony or something soon. All of Terry's recent Instagram stories have been pictures with him and his boyfriend with lots of little hearts around. And today he posted a photo of him and Tom with the caption "it's been a great year." (Some kind of anniversary?) And Dan's Instagram photo is a picture of Terry and Tom holding hands. First celebrity Triad ceremony?

by Anonymousreply 226July 9, 2018 9:17 PM

Call me old fashioned, call me a traitor to the gay community’s core values, call me whatever you want. I am not turned on by this supposed gay role model couple’s sexually obsessive antics, and I am creeped out by the pairing of their s&m dungeon lifestyle photo essays with their parenting and family advice and their “It Gets Better” campaign targeted at young people. To me, it’s like the makers of Barbie teaming up with Jenna Jameson to tell nerdy girls that they have bright and happy futures if they get surgically modified and fucked on camera.

by Anonymousreply 227July 10, 2018 7:49 AM

R227 last month Terry announced a partnership between Tom of Finland and It Gets Better!

by Anonymousreply 228July 10, 2018 10:52 AM

I’m not surprised R228. Aside from loving dick and acting faggy, I don’t think I can consider myself gay anymore. The label suits my nature but not my culture.

by Anonymousreply 229July 10, 2018 10:58 AM

Dan's husband and his husbands boyfriend

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by Anonymousreply 230July 10, 2018 11:07 AM

Wonder if the Hollywood exec dying while playing mummy games gave them pause?

Still cannot believe they were doing that shit in the attic with a minor child in the house, one floor below.

by Anonymousreply 231July 10, 2018 12:07 PM

Yep, R225. I personally find that creepy AF, esp considering the YOUNG ages. Guess old straight men do it but it is sleezy.

by Anonymousreply 232July 10, 2018 12:15 PM

Is this kid the same one that he mummified?

It is all fun and games until someone loses their life.

Dan and Terry are PATHETIC. No wisdom or maturity. Sex attics (promoted ONLINE) with their high school aged son in the house. What will they come up with next?

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by Anonymousreply 233July 10, 2018 1:06 PM

If the dead dude had a MA in Feminine Performance, did he take a spot in the program that was intended for a woman?

RIP, awful way to go. Could his chest expand properly?

Terry seems dumb as a box of hair. How could anyone allow him to do anything potentially life threatening to his body? It would have to be someone equally dumb and very young.

Remember when Terry did not want to do threesomes?

by Anonymousreply 234July 10, 2018 1:09 PM

Well they have certainly stepped it up from being "monogamish"

by Anonymousreply 235July 10, 2018 1:18 PM

I think Dan gets off on people gossiping about his husband and his bf. They keep teasing about it on social media, then pretending to be offended when people are curious

by Anonymousreply 236July 12, 2018 11:51 PM

Yep. Def a full fledged poly relationship

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by Anonymousreply 237July 19, 2018 12:49 AM

It's so funny he won"t adress it. He couls write a book called "Poly: or what happened when my husband got a boyfriend" All the right people would love it

by Anonymousreply 238July 19, 2018 10:06 AM

Poly never works out.

Every throuple I've ever known: the new third is either a temporary distraction for the original couple who gets dropped eventually, or within 6 months to a year, a replacement for one of the original partners in a new couple.

by Anonymousreply 239July 19, 2018 4:38 PM

I always think it's funny when Dan gives advice to poly people. He often encourages them to be open with it because it lessens the stigma. Yet he never discusses his own year-plus poly relationship. But he teases the fuck out of it on social media. And Terry broadcasts his boyfriend for attention then gets pissy if anyone asks about it.

by Anonymousreply 240July 24, 2018 3:06 AM

What happens if there's a messy breakup and the kid goes after the Savage/Miller family fortune?

by Anonymousreply 241July 24, 2018 3:30 AM

R241 Dan has too much riding on his marriage to let it fail. His career would suffer. And Terry's would too

by Anonymousreply 242July 24, 2018 3:37 AM

Yes, because Terry's "career" is being Mrs. Dan Savage.

by Anonymousreply 243July 24, 2018 3:40 AM

Dan has often complained publicly about having to earn on the money and Terry working and spending it. He talked about having to watch and control what Terry buys. Do you think he now financially supports his husband's boyfriend too?

by Anonymousreply 244July 24, 2018 3:45 AM

*and Terry NOT working and spending all his money.

by Anonymousreply 245July 24, 2018 3:46 AM

The triad...

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by Anonymousreply 246August 1, 2018 2:12 AM

Their boytoy is quite tacky.

by Anonymousreply 247August 1, 2018 8:51 AM

R247 "The Triad: A New American Family" brought to you by Mr. Turk

by Anonymousreply 248August 1, 2018 11:15 AM

Looks like Tom does the exact same modeling gigs that Terry does. Mr. Turk, Tim of Finland, It Gets Better, ITMFA.

by Anonymousreply 249August 1, 2018 11:16 AM

I predict an NYT bestseller called “I Still Only Care About Fucking Hot Dudes (It Gets Better for the money, and it turns out I’m a shitty dad and I don’t care) by Dan Savage”

by Anonymousreply 250August 1, 2018 11:35 AM

R250 I predict... "Poly: Or What Happened When My Husband Met His Boyfriend" a charming look at their new family. Tales of how they "came out" as a triad to family including their son. Funny anecdotes about the boyfriend and the son having similar interests since they are the same age. And a half hearted argument for legal recognition of poly families.

by Anonymousreply 251August 1, 2018 12:10 PM

R251 That’s a more likely title than the one I predicted, but also a less honest one. Savage just wants hot dick. That’s all he cares about in life. It Gets Better is a moneymaking scheme and a structure through which to consistently meet vulnerable and damaged young gay guys through an organizational pipeline while being acclaimed and promoted for it. Parenthood—he and Terry don’t give a shit. Watching them from the outside illustrates how narcissists parent. It’s always about them and satisfying their desires and whims, never about serving the interests of the child.

by Anonymousreply 252August 1, 2018 12:14 PM

R250, no, books are too wordy.

Instead, they will produce a coffee table book bound in tire rubber and leather. Content-wise, it will just be a rehash of Terry's instagram. HOWEVER, it will cost TWICE as much as a half-roll arm couch and it will be so FUCKING HUGE (coffee table size) that it will require a crane to put it in place.

You will all buy at least one as they can be utilized in the building of tiny homes - a book that's wired and plumbed.

by Anonymousreply 253August 1, 2018 12:26 PM

Remember the AbFab episode when narcissist Eddie had a temper tantrum and threatened to adopt Romanian babies just for attention? And then when her daughter refused to give her the attention she demanded, Eddie went through with her threat just because she was that stubborn and self-centered. That was the story of how Dan Savage ended up with a kid. He did it just because people said he shouldn’t do it. That poor fucked up kid is going to be a Savage.

by Anonymousreply 254August 1, 2018 12:27 PM

Somehow I feel like their son is going to be married by the time he's 23, to a woman, and vote Republican

by Anonymousreply 255August 1, 2018 12:30 PM

Dan gives so much advice to people about how they should cut Trump supporters out of their lives. Even if they are family. I stumbled on his dad's Twitter page and it is the most extreme conservative, conspiracy theory, racist absurdity I've ever read. And according to what Savage has written in the past he still maintains a fairly close relationship with his dad

by Anonymousreply 256August 1, 2018 12:39 PM

A non-JAQ player would link, R256.

by Anonymousreply 257August 1, 2018 12:42 PM

I hope their son doesn't follow them on Instagram.

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by Anonymousreply 258August 2, 2018 12:38 PM

Any scoop on Tom?

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by Anonymousreply 259August 2, 2018 1:47 PM
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by Anonymousreply 260August 2, 2018 1:49 PM

Id like to see Tom working Terry's nipples.

by Anonymousreply 261August 2, 2018 2:47 PM

R261 ok, Dan

by Anonymousreply 262August 2, 2018 7:21 PM

LOL. The pic from R258 is no longer on his page. I wonder if IG removed it or Dan did?

by Anonymousreply 263August 3, 2018 2:41 AM

I just listened to a new interview he did on a gay podcast. They explicitly asked him what his relationship status was. It seemed kind of awkward. And he went on a long rant about how monogamy is not realistic and seemed really defensive about the fact that he and Terry are open. He talked about how it would be better if more poly people came out, that it would make it easier for others. But he never mentioned that his husband has a long time boyfriend. He kind of skirted around the question. I don't think he's ever mentioned it which is odd considering how open he is with everything else And for those wondering what his son thinks about how his parents present themselves, apparently he doesn't mind because he still lives at home

by Anonymousreply 264August 3, 2018 7:52 PM

R246 Dan looks kinda awkward there. Terry looks like a cross between raw bacon and a Baldwin brother. Bleh!

by Anonymousreply 265August 3, 2018 8:08 PM

R265 lol. Dan always looks awkward in photos.

by Anonymousreply 266August 3, 2018 8:14 PM

I wonder which of the three of them is making the decision not to talk about their Triad

by Anonymousreply 267August 3, 2018 8:15 PM

Terry actually got daddy tattooed on his forearm?? Good god what a sad old plonker.

by Anonymousreply 268August 3, 2018 8:35 PM

R268 yeah. And his boyfriend has some kind of corresponding tattoo. Can't remember exactly what it says

by Anonymousreply 269August 3, 2018 8:40 PM

The bf

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by Anonymousreply 270August 3, 2018 10:27 PM

Triad never work long term.

It's always: A+ B are together. C enters. C is a temporary distraction and eventually leaves.

A+ B are together. C enters. A is no longer interested in B and A+C are eventually a couple and B is out.

by Anonymousreply 271August 5, 2018 3:25 PM

Mr Turk realness?

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by Anonymousreply 272August 5, 2018 4:18 PM

I understand that there has to be acceptance and all of that, but how do these poly-relationships affect their son? Do they think that it won’t have any effect on how he views relationships?

by Anonymousreply 273August 5, 2018 6:24 PM

R273 i wonder too. And it appears he lives with the three of them. I'm sure Dan would say it's just as healthy as a monogamous marriage for children. If not more so. He has been pushing polyamorous relationships and marriages for a while now. He didn't used to. He was always a favor of open marriages but not poly ones

by Anonymousreply 274August 6, 2018 1:18 AM

Having a parent screwing/dating someone your age is never pleasant. And as for the daddy and son Dynamic...ew

by Anonymousreply 275August 6, 2018 3:10 AM

Fuckin is fun!

by Anonymousreply 276August 6, 2018 3:16 AM

R276 good input

by Anonymousreply 277August 6, 2018 3:28 AM

Anyone met the three of them out socially? Is Tom dating both of them or just Terry?

by Anonymousreply 278August 6, 2018 3:40 AM

[r275]

Fucking Co-Sign.

by Anonymousreply 279August 6, 2018 12:48 PM

R279 heteronormative, sex negative troll. /s

by Anonymousreply 280August 6, 2018 2:08 PM

UhOh. Terry isn't happy. Instagram removed one of his pictures and he's crying homophoia

by Anonymousreply 281August 7, 2018 5:13 AM

r281 Why just the one, if that was the case? Or was he showing something against the TOS?

by Anonymousreply 282August 9, 2018 12:22 PM

R282 must have been the one that was against the TOS. I didn't see it, but he put a new cropped photo up and said Instagram was homophobic. Not the first time he's made that claim, he's made the news before by saying it's homophobic

by Anonymousreply 283August 9, 2018 12:37 PM

r283 Yet, he still continues to use it...

by Anonymousreply 284August 9, 2018 12:39 PM

R284 and it's the only reason he is famous. Or semi-famous. Plus, Instagram is not homophobic. At all. It's just a victim mentality to make himself feel important. I'm sure you can find examples of women showing more than him, but they're also examples of men showing a lot more than he does. It's just which ones happened to get flagged or not. Has nothing to do with gay or straight. Straight female pornstars are constantly getting their posts removed because they show too much boob

by Anonymousreply 285August 9, 2018 1:02 PM

bump

by Anonymousreply 286August 25, 2018 4:55 AM

I saw Terry post two pictures back to back on Instagram. First was with him smiling with his husband. The second was him kissing his boyfriend. It was interesting to me that the pictures with his husband had almost four times more likes than the picture with his boyfriend

by Anonymousreply 287August 25, 2018 5:14 AM

Lol. They getting a little snippy and defensive about their throuple on insta (actually I thing it's more accurately bigamy, not poly)

by Anonymousreply 288August 25, 2018 5:21 AM

Not sure when it happened, but at some point Dan has become the more handsome and sexier of the two. He's aged more gracefully and his body is built without looking comical. Terry looks like he's going through a mid-life crisis

by Anonymousreply 289August 25, 2018 10:48 AM

I think Terry still looks hot :/

by Anonymousreply 290August 25, 2018 10:58 AM

R290 Different Strokes for different folks I guess. He's gotten very generic muscle queen looking to me. I found the Terry that Dan describes in his books a lot more interesting and likable than the Terry who presents himself on Instagram.

by Anonymousreply 291August 25, 2018 11:03 AM

I like the AbFab reference someone made above. I imagine their son as Saffy

by Anonymousreply 292August 25, 2018 11:06 AM

I dislike these people intensely. If you start a campaign like It Gets Better to prevent suicides by teens who feel inadequate by virtue of their sexual orientations, then projecting endless images of sexually charged nudity is not helpful. People who are bullied tend not to look like steroidal fitness models. They tend not to fuck on camera for a living. If Savage and his whore had not founded the campaign I wouldn’t care about them at all, but I see them as extraordinarily damaging, preying upon emotionally damaged young people and making them feel even more inadequate and giving them even more skewed ideas of what is acceptable in this life. By extension, this makes me resent the LGBT community and media in the same way I resent the United States by and large for allowing Donald Trump to represent us. How dare they? The idea of It Gets Better is an idea I support 100 percent. The idea of that campaign being used to profit and to make famous two or three sex-addicted narcissists who clearly do not give a shit about the mission of the movement they founded is an idea I resent beyond what I can articulate. It’s sick.

by Anonymousreply 293August 25, 2018 11:10 AM

People need to feel

by Anonymousreply 294August 25, 2018 11:14 AM

So much for monogamish

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by Anonymousreply 295August 25, 2018 4:00 PM

Did Terry recruit this new plaything from his It Gets Better scam?

by Anonymousreply 296August 25, 2018 4:03 PM

From what they are showing on Instagram, Dan and Tom are not in a relationship. Terry has a husband and a boyfriend

by Anonymousreply 297August 25, 2018 4:05 PM

Terry is a bag of disease and drugs and Dan needs to drop the attention whore’s dead weight and move on with life.

by Anonymousreply 298August 25, 2018 4:07 PM

Hell, Dan and Terry are barely in a relationship at this point R297

by Anonymousreply 299August 26, 2018 10:37 AM

Terry just comes across as a sad, needy, aging queen. Initially he appears a hot daddy, but the vapid narcissm makes him spectacularly unattractive.

If Dan pulled the plug you know the boyfriend would be out of there too as Terry isn't bringing in the dollars.

by Anonymousreply 300August 26, 2018 10:50 AM

I know this will come across as a sex negative prudish comment. But I kind of feel sorry for their son. He lives in a house with his parents who take nearly naked Instagram photos on a daily basis in the kitchen and they share a boyfriend who is only a year or two older than him. And based on their social media accounts Dad number 2 is infatuated with new boyfriend, and Dad number 1 seems less so. And on top of that their threesome is open and they have other partners and they've had their BDSM play leaked on Tumblr. That's a lot of different sexual Dynamics to be thrown into. And after a lifetime being raised by the nation's premier sex-positive non-judgemental sex advisor I'm sure he would feel guilty complaining about anything that his parents do

by Anonymousreply 301August 26, 2018 11:04 AM

Hey kiddos,

Is your life sad? Pathetic? Are you lonely? Will no one sit with you at the lunch table?

Well, good news: it gets better!

Here’s Terry. Terry, too, was friendless in school. All the boys in Melbourne called him Theresa. Terry thought he would never have a friend in the world. In fact, he thought...sometimes he thought he didn’t belong in this world...

But then Terry met Dan! Dan was a handsome intellectual type. Dan knew what Terry didn’t know. Yes, kids, it gets better when you realize that only YOU have control over your own fate!

Terry picked up his life. He picked up all kinds of things. Heavy things. Before he knew it, Terry was strong as a bull—or at least he looked it! He would never do it, but Terry knew he could kick sand in the faces of his childhood tormentors and they wouldn’t dare fight him. Not with those bulging biceps and traps the width of the Mighty Mississippi!

The more Terry believed in himself, the better it got for Terry! Everything he desired materialized into his world. All the syringes. All the pills. All the rubber sex toys. Including a human one! Not only did Terry get free jock straps, but he was PAID to wear them—and nothing else! Even better, wearing nothing but his free jock straps got Terry LIKES!

Yes, kids, you, too, can be LIKED! If boys hate you today because you like boys, just think of Terry. With patience and commitment, you too can pick up heavy things, balloon up into a steroidal freak of nature, get married, have a rapey sex dungeon above your adopted son’s bed, siphon cash off your husband’s accounts, betray him with a barely legal twink, and get credit for running a fraudulent nonprofit organization for which you’ve never done a lick of work.

It gets better, kids. Ask your daddies to write a check to It Gets Better, LLC today. If they’re hot, make sure they enclose well-used underwear for our auction.

Respectfully,

The Devil

by Anonymousreply 302August 26, 2018 11:09 AM

I agree R301. One of my good friends from school has a stepmother younger than we are. That messes with you, regardless of sexuality/genders involved.

by Anonymousreply 303August 26, 2018 11:17 AM

I have a terrible gut feeling that Terry’s life is going to end in the bleakest way possible, and if that happens, that is going to be a really twisted outcome of this smoke-and-mirrors It Gets Better campaign. Terry has to be emotionally disturbed to be living the way he is living at his age. Dan is enabling it. The two of them are broadcasting some ambiguous relationship with a young parasitic whore while apparently neglecting their own child. They are exactly the sorts of role models and public examples gay men do not need. If this ends tragically in any way, if their son does any kind of expose, if Terry offs himself or ODs, if Dan offs himself, there goes the It Gets Better project and here comes all the negative attention and hatred from Mike Pencelike and Michelle Bachmannlike people who say that homosexuality is corruptive and deadly. I really resent this couple for broadcasting their weird life. And I don’t care if some idiot calls me “sex negative.” I am self-destruction negative. I think a person who takes unknown bacterial and viral loads into his body without a worry is a really fucking stupid person. I think anyone who at 50ish broadcasts himself naked with a boyfriend and a husband and in an s&m room in the same house where two of the three are raising a child is an objectively fucked up and damaging person. Call me sex negative all you want. These freaks are not part of the equality movement I participated in in my youth. I wanted equality, not to create expectations that I am supposed to be a steroidal sex addict.

by Anonymousreply 304August 26, 2018 11:30 AM

PEARLS ARE BEING CLUTCHED!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 305August 26, 2018 12:12 PM

To me, people like Terry, David Pevsner, the gay Instagram therapist starring in two other threads here, are clear examples of just how damaged gay men are, me included. Being ridiculed and persecuted and learning to hate ourselves makes us desperate for approval and it can often be attained from hitting the gym, etc. And the advent of social media has forever changed the platform to seek that attention on a much grander scale. Now we judge our approval ratings sometimes by the number of likes a post has received. In olden days, one compliment during the day would be enough to boost us for 24 hours.

I'm as guilty as they are for much of what takes up too much of my time. I can't seem to not seek approval constantly.

by Anonymousreply 306August 26, 2018 1:20 PM

R306 I think Terry is actually the opposite. I think he's afraid to be viewed as mainstream or as a gay who assimilated. He was a house husband and a father for many years. Now he wants to shock people with his countercultural gayness. Back then it was shocking to have an openly gay man and couple raising a kid and being married. Now that's the norm and he's trying to shock people with his BDSM modeling and poly lifestyle. I think he lives for the hate mail rather than the likes.

by Anonymousreply 307August 26, 2018 1:31 PM

R307 That's a good point. But I see myself in Terry when I went "punk rock" in high school. I pretended I was saying "fuck you" to everyone but it was just another way of seeking attention and approval for being so 'counterculture."

by Anonymousreply 308August 26, 2018 1:41 PM

R308 yeah I got that out of my system in my late teens. But I haven't reached my midlife crisis yet. So who knows? Maybe it will happen to me again

by Anonymousreply 309August 26, 2018 1:48 PM

R306 Are you RuPaul Charles? He’s quite the same sort of self-contradiction. He was a “genderfuck punk drag” performer in his youth, and then he became a (female) gender-conforming beauty pageant-type drag queen to attain mainstream acceptance and the riches and attention that come with it. In his youth, he rejected assigned gender norms by mixing it all up; now, he is careful to correct people who think he likes to wear women’s clothing: he is a MAN, he says, not a transgender person and he has nothing in common with transgender people. He still says he doesn’t care about public adoration or about recognition and awards because all that is illusory—yet when he got his Emmy, he played that thing up for all it was worth and makes sure to mention it when others don’t. There’s a lot of hypocrisy going on there. I don’t resent it. I think it’s the result of a lot of trauma, and I think the ego is a hungry, hungry hippo that feeds on attention.

The thing I do resent, as I said above, is the pairing of the high-profile It Gets Better campaign that supposedly was created to make young worthless-feeling people feel like they are worth something, with unnaturally unrealistic standards of stereotypical hypermasculinity and a celebration of potentially self-destructive behaviors. I admit that I have a strong bias toward traditional families—in this case, I mean, for example, parents who don’t have casual boyfriends the same ages as their own children, and who don’t broadcast sex dungeons from their home on social media. I am old-fashioned that way, in thinking parents should not fuck kids or fuck in front of their kids. I’m much more concerned though about the message that the antics send to the greater world—because they affect me. Thanks to entertainment depictions, most people (gay and straight alike) seem to expect me to be obsessed with my appearance, superficial, a generator of sassy one-liners, and basically a dumb horny human beagle. That’s not me. I’m way more complicated than that. And if anyone sees these IGB assholes and assumes I am like them, and starts asking me if I am into polygamy and sado-masochism and if I think it’s cool for two fathers of a 20 year-old to be fucking a 20 year-old, I am really going to lose my shit.

by Anonymousreply 310August 26, 2018 1:57 PM

I bet damn right now is trying to figure out how he should respond on Twitter to McCain's death. I'm sure he wants to rip into him for being a Republican and conservative but he's probably also their people are being lambasted for not giving respect. I'm sure he'll split the baby.

by Anonymousreply 311August 26, 2018 2:02 PM

None of this would be an issue except Dan wrote extensively about their marriage and their life. In great detail. Until the last several years. He never discusses the boyfriend and still refers to them as monogamish which is obviously not the case. Dan won't talk about it but Terry keeps hinting at it on social media. Which is going to lead to these discussions

by Anonymousreply 312August 26, 2018 2:05 PM

R311 I totally get and respect that. I struggle with trying to be supportive of all lifestyles when ignorant people assume the stereotype is true of the whole group. I hope that changes in the ways it's changed for blacks and is happening for other minorities.

by Anonymousreply 313August 26, 2018 2:06 PM

R313 Black people I know are still profoundly concerned about how fucked up depictions affect them personally. A good friend of mine who is much older (68, the first class bused from Washington, DC to a wealthy all-white Maryland school district) is so offended by the Real Housewives of Atlanta and similar shows that she practically fights herself not to cry when she talks about it. All the Housewives out there, and one is dedicated to black women. The ones in New York and Beverly Hills and Orange County go on fabulous vacations and toss chardonnay in one another’s faces. The ones in Atlanta think the underground railroad was a real train and they pull one another’s hair out, scratch and bite one another, scream into bullhorns and wrestle during interviews. The women in New York run businesses that sell wine, health food, textiles. The ones in California own gyms and swimsuit manufacturers and posh restaurants or are married to lawyers; the successful black women in Atlanta sell sex toys and are legal counsel to sex workers. The only white person who associates with them on the show is a trailer park type who was whoring with a married man, while the women in the other franchises hang around with upper-crust people (and absolutely no black people.) This is what the public sees: petty, spoiled snobby white women and violent, uncontrolled, oversexed black women.

This stuff is damaging. My friend resents it when black people produce their own reality shows like these, but it enrages her to see gleeful Andy Cohen giggle giddily when the black women beat one another up.

I also resent a lot of it. I used to write for one of the national LGBT publications, but I couldn’t do that anymore. I’m disturbed by what the LGBT community has become. Twenty years ago when I came of age, it was still somewhat bold to wear a rainbow pin or to have a rainbow on the car, and gay magazines mostly were invested in civil rights, building allies, arguing a case for being accepted. At some point as years marched along, I realized that gay people had been identified as a convenient and easy population to target for selling shit to, and as the commercial interests locked their sights on us, we became more mainstream. The combination of advertising to us using sex and mainstreaming us in the media meant that we were reduced to sex and bodies and...nothing else. And no one bought into it more than gay men. When Logo launched its own version of the Bachelor starring an actual prostitute who drank men’s semen on camera out of condoms that they mailed to him—when that is Prince Charming—I had to check out. Terry and Dan to me are no better. I feel as alienated from gay men these days as I ever felt from straight society. I hate to say it, but it is true.

by Anonymousreply 314August 26, 2018 2:23 PM

R314 gay man in his early 30s here. I don't relate to a lot of things I see inside the covers of most LGBT magazines. But I do have a pretty phenomenal group of friends, both gay and straight, who support me and my marriage. I'm proud to be gay even if I'm not always happy with every single aspect of the LGBT movement.

by Anonymousreply 315August 26, 2018 2:56 PM

R315 I’m gay. I’ve got no shame about it. It’s just who I am, like my gray eyes—a characteristic. There was a time when I felt proud about qualities I had attributed to being gay, including being an independent thinking, accepting oneself unconditionally, being unusually creative, artistic, more whimsical than the average adult. All those qualities are stereotypes that didn’t pan out to be true across the gay board, but they are qualities I still admire when I find people who possess them. I also felt proud of the gay movement because as I saw it once upon a time, it was made up of bold people who had had enough and were pushing back against injustice and inhumane treatment. I don’t see that among gay men anymore as a rule. At pride events, I see mostly unclothed exhibitionists, which I don’t mind but it certainly is not something that makes me proud per se. I see cheering for corproations and politicians who patronize us so that we will support them. I find that to be pandering and somewhat cynical. I feel a lot of tension between gay men especially and transgender people who as I see it are fighting, albeit belligerently much of the time, for the acceptance that gay people have won, and a lot of gay men who feel like transgender people belong in the back of the bus or in a separate-but-equal type of setting. I am actually ashamed of that. No one who has ever been persecuted by statute and social norms has any excuse in my opinion to ever feel justified feeling superior to any other group, or feeling like “those people” are just too much trouble with all the noise they are making. I don’t respect it.

by Anonymousreply 316August 26, 2018 3:08 PM

Drama on there Instagram today! Apparently some guy is commenting on all their posts and being pretty douchey about it. (Super not cool) but Tom's response is to publish a picture of the guy and his handle and asking their followers to physically assault him. Also not cool

by Anonymousreply 317August 26, 2018 7:26 PM

R317: People are horrible online, they should just block the disruptor. And then Terry or Dan should give young Thomas a spanking and put it up on Instagram for his punishment.

by Anonymousreply 318August 26, 2018 7:34 PM

Probably some hook up drama R317.

Not sure on the law there but it is now a criminal offence to incite others online in the UK (where I am) if the agitator reported it.

by Anonymousreply 319August 26, 2018 7:37 PM

R319 nah. Doesn't look like a hookup. More like a fan of Dan's who thinks Tom is ruining some fantasy relationship in his own head. But Dan should rein his BF in. The guy was kinda harassing them but not threating them. Tom posted a cartoon pic of a group of guys beating another. He captioned it as Dan, Terry, Tom and their followers and added the name of the guy. Another post he asjed followers to report the guy or beat him

by Anonymousreply 320August 26, 2018 7:50 PM

It's true - but the pic was actually a bunch of kids beating on one and not a cartoon, and it was an Instagram story, not a post. Maybe someone else can screencap it.

by Anonymousreply 321August 26, 2018 7:54 PM

R321 you're right. It's like a stock image. I just caught a glimpse of it. I get that they're pissed off with the guy, I would be too. But somebody with their amount of social media followers can Advocate violence against another user even if they feel Justified.

by Anonymousreply 322August 26, 2018 8:01 PM

From what I've seen here Dan does seem to be becoming the spare wheel R320.

It only takes one idiot to take them seriously unfortunately - but Tom doesn't seem like much beyond sex registers in his head! Cue some uppity dirge article from Dan about trolls now I suspect.

by Anonymousreply 323August 26, 2018 8:06 PM

R323 of course it's a good possibility that dan is happy being the third wheel. He can do his own thing without having to put up with Terry's antics all the time.

by Anonymousreply 324August 26, 2018 8:10 PM

R324: Sort of like a husband sitter or something. Maybe this IS the wave of the future and the key to happy marriages many are looking for...

by Anonymousreply 325August 26, 2018 8:12 PM

After the divorce Dan will write harrowing tales of staying with someone who is mentally ill for the sake of living up to the pressures of a high-profile marriage and how he didn’t want his son to come from a broken home—and how he now regrets it. He’ll go on a press tour and rake in some cash.

by Anonymousreply 326August 26, 2018 8:14 PM

Haha R324/R325

God yes! I couldn't put up with Terry for 5 minutes - it's funny that the throuple coincides with his needy queeniness going into overdrive!

by Anonymousreply 327August 26, 2018 8:17 PM

[quote]To me, people like Terry, David Pevsner, the gay Instagram therapist starring in two other threads here, are clear examples of just how damaged gay men are, me included. Being ridiculed and persecuted and learning to hate ourselves makes us desperate for approval and it can often be attained from hitting the gym, etc. And the advent of social media has forever changed the platform to seek that attention on a much grander scale. Now we judge our approval ratings sometimes by the number of likes a post has received. In olden days, one compliment during the day would be enough to boost us for 24 hours.

This is extraordinarily well written and well thought out.

by Anonymousreply 328August 26, 2018 8:19 PM

This man is in lust, but it’s not with the husband or the boyfriend.

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by Anonymousreply 329August 26, 2018 8:19 PM

[quote]I used to write for one of the national LGBT publications, but I couldn’t do that anymore. I’m disturbed by what the LGBT community has become. Twenty years ago when I came of age, it was still somewhat bold to wear a rainbow pin or to have a rainbow on the car, and gay magazines mostly were invested in civil rights, building allies, arguing a case for being accepted. At some point as years marched along, I realized that gay people had been identified as a convenient and easy population to target for selling shit to, and as the commercial interests locked their sights on us, we became more mainstream. The combination of advertising to us using sex and mainstreaming us in the media meant that we were reduced to sex and bodies and...nothing else.

Thank you, r314. I used to write for one of the national LGBT publications as well, but I left because the owners were financially fat and sassy and expected the writers and designers to work for peanuts for "the cause."

From what I remember, it was Absolut that was the first big and ubiquitous advertiser that opened the floodgates to turning us (well, at least gay men) into commodities and a desirable demographic. Then circuit parties went on the rise and the media images all turned generically perfectly bland, and, yes, the message was sex and bodies and conspicuous consumption. Terry is the personification of all that.

by Anonymousreply 330August 26, 2018 8:26 PM

All good on Insta. Their followers have been sending supportive comments and Tom feels good again

by Anonymousreply 331August 27, 2018 11:18 AM

Wow R331 I just looked at it. What a petty little bitch. I'll be genuinely surprised if the son hasn't moved out.

by Anonymousreply 332August 27, 2018 11:47 AM

They sound like a match made in heaven (or hell)

Would anyone be surprised while they're slutting about Dan's quietly moving his finances somewhere safe and is going to leave them to it? Terry having to fend for himself and support the idiot boy toy would be worth watching!

by Anonymousreply 333August 27, 2018 12:13 PM

Terry will support himself after the breakup by hawking steroid replacement supplements and jock straps and sex toys on Instagram and by tricking for as long as he can, and pimping his longer-term trick. Both will do porn. At least one will be found dead, tragically, by overdose or a heart stopped by steroids and/or some other drug.

Sorry to be bleak, but this is a record that plays on repeat.

by Anonymousreply 334August 27, 2018 12:19 PM

And Dan, the real devil in all this, will sell, sell, sell his story to keep profiting, and he will pick up a new, mich younger paramour. His deal with the devil is also a record that plays on repeat.

by Anonymousreply 335August 27, 2018 12:20 PM

Oh I don't doubt it R335 - I suspect Dan has been tired of Terry and his vapid presence for some time, but is playing a long game. Once the son is done with College and safely ensconced into a career, I can see Dan going on his way and making a hefty profit with the tales he has to tell.

Let's be honest he has coddled Terry so much I doubt he even knows how to pay a bill by himself - suddenly having to adult will fritz his little mind.

by Anonymousreply 336August 27, 2018 12:55 PM

Drag by Tom of Finland.

Pose by MARY! of Seattle.

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by Anonymousreply 337August 29, 2018 12:48 AM

Not impressed.

by Anonymousreply 338August 29, 2018 12:50 AM

Dan is such a tool.

by Anonymousreply 339August 29, 2018 1:17 AM

R339 interesting

by Anonymousreply 340August 29, 2018 2:32 AM

Pop that hip! Work the runway, sweetie!

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by Anonymousreply 341August 29, 2018 11:48 PM

How long will he keep up this embarrassing act?

by Anonymousreply 342August 29, 2018 11:50 PM

R342 i predict the next step is for them to become poly activists.

by Anonymousreply 343August 30, 2018 12:50 AM

I have seen the boyfriend model some things online from the Tom of Finland + It Gets Better campaign project. I wonder if he's on the campaigns payroll?

by Anonymousreply 344August 30, 2018 2:59 PM

What R320 was referring to:

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by Anonymousreply 345August 31, 2018 4:03 PM

And this. Classy bitch.

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by Anonymousreply 346August 31, 2018 4:04 PM

So pissy bitch fight then!

Here's a thought, either be honest about your arrangement, or stop posting obvious shit and getting pissy when you're called out on it!

by Anonymousreply 347August 31, 2018 4:39 PM

R347 lol. I agree that is silly that they're not honest about things since they are in the public eye and are obviously thrilled to be cute about it on Instagram. But why would he need a visa? He is American isn't he?

by Anonymousreply 348August 31, 2018 6:58 PM

He's Australian or British R348

by Anonymousreply 349August 31, 2018 7:24 PM

R349 are you sure? I know they used to have a boy that was Austrian. And then Australian. But I think this is a different guy. Maybe I'm wrong

by Anonymousreply 350August 31, 2018 10:07 PM

Could he be ... the AUSTRALIAN SLUT SLAVE?

There can be only one!

by Anonymousreply 351September 1, 2018 2:22 AM

r295

lol Dan seems like such a 3rd wheel.

by Anonymousreply 352September 1, 2018 9:48 PM

Because he IS R352

by Anonymousreply 353September 1, 2018 10:11 PM

I know it's silly, but I wonder what their sleeping arrangements are. Do they all sleep in one big bed? Or does Dan have a separate bedroom?

by Anonymousreply 354September 2, 2018 2:08 AM

Will the boyfriend's nipples become as big and worked out as Terry's?

by Anonymousreply 355September 2, 2018 2:12 AM

aint incest legal, if willing and over 18, in half the world?

lord if I had terry for a dad, ide be thirsty fuk yes

by Anonymousreply 356September 2, 2018 2:35 AM

r356 Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 357September 2, 2018 10:11 PM

I have a question for any of you poly experts out there. Everytime Dan posts a pic of him and Terry the comments are flooded with what a handsome/inspirational/sexy couple they are. Is it insulting or ethical to call two people in a poly family a couple? Doesn't it devalue Tom's role in the triad? Is it poly-erasure?

by Anonymousreply 358September 4, 2018 6:40 AM

It's all N a m b l a. I only heard of that when we moved here, I was warned. Dan Savage can buy himself a new chin and they can coerce children into their home, adopt them even. Then call your boyfriends whore your son too? No wonder people don't want gays teaching school. Why are the leather gays always into opera and politics? N A M B L A must have many connections within the Republican party. So many old white gay men are conservative daddies with sons and lovers. I'm glad my community doesn't go for that. Dan must have the money tied up. It's easy to find a slave but keeping them is the hard part, ha.

by Anonymousreply 359September 4, 2018 7:00 AM

R359 what the fuck are you on? Nobody is accusing anyone of coersion or child abuse. Take your bullshit to 4chan.

by Anonymousreply 360September 4, 2018 7:08 AM

Well maybe it's time someone did. We know what's up with Dan Savage. Terry is the victim in all this and their adopted "son." I don't like old men trying to gain approval by coercing young men into their lifestyle. Dan Savage was to be avoided in my old town. I was warned about him by the time I was 12. Poor Terry, he looks almost as old as grandpa Dan now. Adopt more sons. Try to remember which ones are sex slaves and which are your "children." That was Dan's problem long before he had partners and a chin,

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by Anonymousreply 361September 4, 2018 7:19 AM

R361 not cool. Actually pretty disgusting to spread these accusation. Particularly because you've made it clear it's just third-handed rumors.

by Anonymousreply 362September 4, 2018 7:25 AM

You have exceeded the limits of posting on this thread R362. Your fixation on Grandpa Dan is duly noted. You've posted more than 70 times here alone. Maybe you can help him find a new son?

What I know is not third hand. Disgusting maybe.

by Anonymousreply 363September 4, 2018 7:31 AM

R361/3 you do realise Tom is Terry's plaything and Dan is very much the third wheel in this current scenario? I'm not saying this to start an argument, I'm intrigued as your comments aren't something that's been widely discussed, or alluded to.

To be clear, I'm not defending any of them, as people who have made a big deal of being advocates for gay issues their fudge and lack of transparency around their arrangement is irritating.

by Anonymousreply 364September 4, 2018 9:45 AM

theyr legal and willlng:::loving family

fuk off

by Anonymousreply 365September 4, 2018 9:57 AM

Scratch a leather queen, find a drag queen. Every time.

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by Anonymousreply 366September 7, 2018 1:29 AM

r354 where does their son sleep?

by Anonymousreply 367September 7, 2018 2:10 PM

r367

I'm sure in his own separate bedroom.

by Anonymousreply 368September 9, 2018 9:04 PM

R367 When he’s good he gets to sleep in the golden sling. When he’s bad, the dungeon.

by Anonymousreply 369September 9, 2018 9:06 PM

When will they release Terry's Boat Daddy porn? I know they supposedly destroyed it but I cannot believe that would be true for a narcissist of these proportions.

by Anonymousreply 370September 9, 2018 11:27 PM

Courtney Stodden looked at this one and muttered, "A bit much, don't you think?"

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by Anonymousreply 371September 11, 2018 4:49 AM

Any guys here seen "Boat Daddy"?

by Anonymousreply 372September 12, 2018 3:33 AM

So tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 373September 12, 2018 8:43 AM

What in the fuck? He's going to the orchestra, not a costume party.

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by Anonymousreply 374September 17, 2018 12:22 AM

R374 He’s wearing a shirt and pants that come close to being full-on grown-boy pants. This is a miraculous accomplishment for such an exhibitionist whore.

by Anonymousreply 375September 17, 2018 1:10 AM

His boyfriend's outfit

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by Anonymousreply 376September 17, 2018 1:14 AM

Gross

by Anonymousreply 377September 17, 2018 1:31 AM

Kind of a weird interview with Terry. He is promoting TOF with his boyfriend lying silently, almost naked in the background

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by Anonymousreply 378September 17, 2018 1:47 AM

R378 It can talk! But I thought it came from down under. Why does it talk like a valley girl?

by Anonymousreply 379September 17, 2018 1:54 AM

R379 i think the Australian guy was their last boy. I think Tom is American.

by Anonymousreply 380September 17, 2018 2:01 AM

R380 I meant Terry. Isn’t it Australian?

by Anonymousreply 381September 17, 2018 2:02 AM

R381 no. I think he is from a midwestern state. It was in Dans book but i can't remember which State

by Anonymousreply 382September 17, 2018 2:10 AM

Every time I come to this thread I feel like I need a Silkwood shower after.

by Anonymousreply 383September 17, 2018 6:09 AM

So, what happens when Dan feels left out and decides to dump both of them?

I don't Mr. Turk and Tom of Finland are gonna pay the bills.

And, the Boy Toy will quickly dump Terry since Dan makes all the money. Though probably not as much as he used to. The TV show tanked and do colleges still pay Dan to speak? He used to make most of his money doing that. The column pays shit.

by Anonymousreply 384September 17, 2018 6:31 AM

Dan is all about being poly now. 80% of his columns are related to giving out poly advice. He won't divorce over this. He wants it. And his reputation as a sex positive advice guru depends on it working.

by Anonymousreply 385September 17, 2018 10:09 AM

A sex positive advice guru could write millions of articles of why his relationship failed and how he is open to date someone new and about all the dating fails. He would have more to gain from breaking up with Terri than keeping up a fake relationship.

by Anonymousreply 386September 17, 2018 10:20 AM

I googled Dan’s and Terry’s names and found an article by a straight woman who said their relationship taught her how to live as a married woman. It was based on her wanting to work and write a book, andd Dan saying he is only able to do so because he has someone to clean the house and cook for him and keep him sane while he writes. So she decided the way to have a good marriage is to compromise and to keep getting hotter every year like Dan and Terry do. It made a lot of sense...like, if you reduce your spouse to a sex toy and a dancing monkey.

by Anonymousreply 387September 17, 2018 10:29 AM

Relationships work best when you can be your own person and it's glorified roomate companionship with benefits. Most relationships fail when one, or both, have codependency issues and create endless drama to keep each other engaged and tied to each other.

by Anonymousreply 388September 17, 2018 10:39 AM

R388 There ya go! Spend $40,000 on a wedding to show off your love to all your friends and then buy one another rubber for birthdays and Christmas, and have your 15 year-old son take photos of your roommate-spouse making out with his naked 20 year-old boyfriend so that he can post them on Instagram for instalikes while you alternately write a book and do arm curls. Marriage made in heaven.

by Anonymousreply 389September 17, 2018 10:43 AM

r389, you should sue your dealer, because it's obvious he sold you a bad batch of drugs.

by Anonymousreply 390September 17, 2018 10:49 AM

You know there's a good chance that Dan loves the arrangement, right?

by Anonymousreply 391September 17, 2018 11:23 AM

Dan’s arrangement tells me that he really is uber-male, caring only that his partner is conventionally attractive and good for an on-demand fuck, and beyond that not giving a damn about his nonphysical qualities. He has his trophy spouse. He shows off his trophy spouse. All he thinks about is sex. He is paid to write and to talk about sex. People look to hik for advice. He has created a world in which everything hinges on appearances, sex and his presumed authority. Basically most men’s ideal life, but not one I would want to live. It seems very limited.

by Anonymousreply 392September 17, 2018 11:36 AM

I grew up reading Dan's book about adopting his kid and then getting married. I probably shouldn't have looked up to them as a couple as much as I did. But he put himself out there and as a teenager their story was something identified with and wanted. That started changing 6 or 7 years ago. Everyone has a different path and I respect that but I can no longer identify with them as a couple or as individuals. I still kind of like Dan but find Terry very off-putting and mean and petty and narcissistic.. When I was 17 I was jealous of what they had. Now I'm glad I don't have it.

by Anonymousreply 393September 17, 2018 11:50 AM

I could look at sexy pix of him and his 'sons' all day

so endearing and sweet...

by Anonymousreply 394September 18, 2018 5:12 AM

Nothing says autumn like a tasteful sweater that says PIG

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by Anonymousreply 395September 19, 2018 12:06 AM

Pretty sure this is the most disgusting thread in DL history.

by Anonymousreply 396September 19, 2018 12:58 AM

I know what you mean R396.

Terry makes the WCD look classy.

by Anonymousreply 397September 19, 2018 6:30 AM

can I be ur son? ur so hot sweet and tasty daddy

by Anonymousreply 398September 19, 2018 11:51 AM

Good news! Terry announced he will be doing his thing at Folsom in a couple weeks

by Anonymousreply 399September 20, 2018 12:36 AM

The sad thing: Terry THINKS he has terrific taste in fashion....wearing tacky resort wear clothing and professional slutwear.

by Anonymousreply 400September 20, 2018 5:58 AM

Ewww.

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by Anonymousreply 401September 29, 2018 9:58 PM

DJ is in college. I assume he lives at home on breaks, not full time. If it was me, I would try to go home with friends. He is 20, Dan spoke a lot about him starting uni in 2016. Are they staying together until he graduates?

by Anonymousreply 402September 29, 2018 11:09 PM

R402 I don't think it's really any of our business. But I'll share this since Dan talked about it recently in public. Their son isn't going to college right now and lives with them. Didn't say if their bf lives there or not. Actually, he changed the subject when they tried to ask him about it.

by Anonymousreply 403September 29, 2018 11:15 PM

The photo of a child being bullied by other children is truly disturbing coming from someone linked to the founder of an anti-bullying campaign.

by Anonymousreply 404September 29, 2018 11:17 PM

Agree, R404, but does anything ever seem to stick to Dan or his wife? The nattering about inter-generational sex, the sex dungeon on social media in the home of their child, this?

by Anonymousreply 405September 30, 2018 5:28 PM

R405 he got his most "problematic" statements years ago before social media created the call out culture. If he would now say that a political opponent should be dragged behind a pickup truck by a rope until nothing is left but the rope he would be kicked off of Twitter. But he said it years ago

by Anonymousreply 406September 30, 2018 5:35 PM

I had forgotten that one, R406. These people are all trash, but want to be icons and roll models if it helps them take in $$$ as an NGO.

by Anonymousreply 407September 30, 2018 7:58 PM

It Gets Better financials

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by Anonymousreply 408September 30, 2018 8:00 PM

Daddy is in his element. They treat him like god here

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by Anonymousreply 409October 1, 2018 1:28 AM

His face is SO busted now. Wow.

Do not do drugs, kids...

by Anonymousreply 410October 1, 2018 1:34 AM

Isn't this they're boy from a couple years ago? I saw he was at Folsom and Terry was there too but I haven't seen them take photos together or show up on each other's Instagrams

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by Anonymousreply 411October 1, 2018 6:42 PM

Awww

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by Anonymousreply 412October 9, 2018 10:36 AM

I think that they are all developmentally about 13.

Is the exhortation to violence still up? Has Dan commented? Absolutely unacceptable for anyone connected to an anti-bullying campaign.

by Anonymousreply 413October 9, 2018 10:42 AM

Mrs. Miller is a bottomless pit of self-doubt and need.

There will never be enough ANYTHING in the world to satisfy her.

by Anonymousreply 414October 9, 2018 10:47 AM

R413 he posted that on Instagram stories, which automatically delete after 24 hours. But I saw that Terry is on Twitter telling people he hopes they lose their insurance and then their kids get cancer. It gets better? At least unless your parents hold a political view that Terry doesn't like? Then you're just an Expendable life for his self-righteousness

by Anonymousreply 415October 9, 2018 11:03 AM

Terry sounds like he would fit right in at DL.

by Anonymousreply 416October 9, 2018 11:23 AM

Loathsome people held up as role models...

by Anonymousreply 417October 9, 2018 11:48 AM

I wonder how many (semi) famous guys or pornstars they have fucked. Together and by themselves

by Anonymousreply 418October 9, 2018 1:29 PM

ide suk his ass out and chew on his teats till the sow cows come home …..

by Anonymousreply 419October 10, 2018 11:55 AM

His tits are amazing. When I need to cum, I imagine sucking on his big fat nipples, and stuffing big toys into his fat sloppy hot cunt.

by Anonymousreply 420October 11, 2018 10:16 AM

I wish I'm Tom, Terry must be so good in bed 🤤

by Anonymousreply 421October 11, 2018 10:59 AM

The Terry stans have taken over!

by Anonymousreply 422October 11, 2018 11:05 AM

Someone pass me a Hazmat suit... STAT!

by Anonymousreply 423October 11, 2018 4:08 PM

Terry just announced a new line of "Daddy/Boy" clothing from Tom of Finland. Featuring a print of his daddy tattoo

by Anonymousreply 424October 18, 2018 12:13 AM

how can I pay for a pvt with terry??

im 22 and my daddy says I can have anything I want.

I want him in me so bad...

by Anonymousreply 425October 18, 2018 7:37 AM

I had the weirdest sex dream about Dan last night. And I've no idea what it means. I was watching one of his old interviews with Stephen Colbert right before I went to sleep. In the dream he was in a BDSM playroom. Kind of like the one in their attic. He was completely tied up in bondage on his back on the floor. Charles Dera, the straight pornstar, was the master. But he wasn't doing much with Dan, it was some kind of weird forced bi situation. And there was a female pornstar out there and she was sitting on Dan's face and he was pretending to hate it but getting turned on at the same time. It was super weird and kind of got me shook

by Anonymousreply 426October 19, 2018 11:21 AM

I dreamed terry sat on my face and when I got up, he had a cocktail ready for me, served by his son.

by Anonymousreply 427October 19, 2018 11:40 AM

I think DL has become bored with them. But it looks like the happy Trio is on vacation in Mexico. More excuses for polyamorous intergenerational Speedo pics!

by Anonymousreply 428December 4, 2018 9:22 PM
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