Assholes? - persons encounters with Celebs where they were giant assholes

Christine Baranski-

I was working at Tower Records on Sunset Blvd. She came in, and was looking though some CDs. I said "Miss. Baranski, I just wanted to tell you that I love your work. You've made me laugh so many times"

Her answer "wellll, that's my job" and she walked away. How about "Thank you. Always nice to hear' fucking cunt.

Same with Paul Williams when he came into a video store where I was working and I told him how much I loved his Muppet Movie music. Short asshole.

Chris Sarandon was a complete prick. I told him I loved him in Dog Day Afternoon. He looked at me like I was telling him his baby was ugly.

You'd think after so many awful responses, R1, you'd learn to stop talking to celebrities.

Exactly. Why not keep your trap shut -- maybe you were freaking them out???

Most celebs are delusional assholes. Quelle Surprise. Due to my job, advertising in fashion, I've met many over the years. The nice ones do stand out.

Joan Collins was one of the nicest I've ever met, she was funny, charming and actually engaged with the fans who approached her. I've recounted the story here of a friend's camera jamming while trying to take a pic with Joan many years ago . My friend was working a fashion show Joan was involved in. Joan joked around and actually fixed the camera for my friend!

Denis Leary. About 15 years ago, he was filming in NYC, that TV show. Standing in the building doorway talking to someone. I was trying to get out and asked him to move a couple of times. He didn't, so I pushed my way out.

I was a page at CBS for a while. We were warned not to speak to Braeden.

I was a Page at CBS, too, a looonnng time ago.

I'm looking for a job and I saw on a CBS Job site that they're looking for a Page manager.

I need a job and I'd apply, but I'd feel too much like Gabe Kotter. But if I kept a diary for a year, I could write a TV pilot.

"They're good kids, but boy do they get into trouble!"

P.S. I'm sure Peter was a sweetheart to you; he's the exact opposite of Eric.

OP, do you remember the first name of the woman producer who told you not to worry about it?

What do you do now?

Chris Sarandon was HOT !! Still is, kinda.

Robert “Freddy Kruger” Englund is a fucking dick.

I had better not be mentioned or I will have you all FIRED!

I was working the register at Albertsons back in the day when Roseanne (Barr/Arnold) came through. She had about four 2-liter bottles of Diet Coke. "Diet?" I asked, "Are you sure you wouldn't want regular Coke? That would seem more to your liking," I suggested.

The cunt slugged me.

[quote] I was working the register at Albertsons back in the day when Roseanne (Barr/Arnold) came through. She had about four 2-liter bottles of Diet Coke. "Diet?" I asked, "Are you sure you wouldn't want regular Coke? That would seem more to your liking," I suggested.

I said the same thing to her and look what happened to me!

I think it's best not to talk to them about their fucking films or records.

Personally, I try to stay clear of them. One very famous one came and sat next to me in a coffee shop recently. There was plenty of room in the place. God knows what he wanted. (Famously straight). I was having late breakfast. I ignored him and got the hell out of there.

There's an awful tension around them and it's weird knowing stuff about them when they know nothing about you.

[quote]Joan Collins was one of the nicest I've ever met, she was funny, charming and actually engaged with the fans who approached her.

and she's had a 60-year career as the outcome.

R2 that's funny. I make it a policy to never talk to celebrities. I encounter so many in work, or just out, that the very few times I've tried to say something really stand out. Some were nice as could be. Johnny Depp was amazballs. La Lansbury was a dream.

But yeah, I did nothing to freak those people out.They're just fucking assholes. Trust me.

That is great to hear about Joan Collins.

For r1.

This was long before selfies. And I totally understand not wanting to be bothered with a picture. But if someone gives you a compliment, you say "thank you" or some form of "thank you"

I've communicated with a few over the internet.

All gushy-wushy about some ancient pop song etc...

It's not pleasant. It's like they have all the power - because it's all about THEM.

One guy - very minor 60s pop singer kept sending me his "latest stuff" - it was awful. So I had to lie and say how great it was. I wanted to say "You're 70 years old, pack it in with the fucking pop music. Grow the fuck up!"

I went up to Joel McHale once, and told him I thought he was funny, and that I missed The Soup, and that his hair plugs were average at best, and he kicked me in the balls.

Douchebag.

Jessica Alba used to be the terror of every retailer on Robson Street in Vancouver. (This was years ago. Hopefully she's mellowed with time.)

Helen Cunt was well.....a CUNT when I had a small part on Mad About you. Asked her director father (in front of me) for me not to look at her....I wasn't. Total bitch and I was told by a few in the crew not worry because they all HATED her.

Jessica Lange -- horrible woman

I don't believe the "don't look at me" stories people tell over and over.

I once visited a flea market in Paris. Very strange atmosphere. People were over excited and whispered in small groups. As I was progressing through the crowd, I began to understand that someone famous was around. It got more and more heated. It was electrfying. People had that expression of excitment coming back from the epicentre of the action. I started wondering WHO could cause such a turmoil.it was obviously a big fish. I decided it could only be the president. Sarkozy at the time. It was that big. Suddenly there was a big empty space. People didn't dare approach and stood in circle, staring. And in the middle...There she was. Catherine Deneuve. In a trench coat and dark glasses. She was chatting with a seller. Maybe buying some. She was the centre of everything. She obviously didn't want anyone to talk to her. It was very striking. Then she turned around. She was absolutely breathtaking. So fucking beautiful. Glowing. She must have been in her late 50's or early 60's.She started walking away. The crowd followed. I certainly followed. There was something so sexual and vulnerable about her I was completely troubled. Then she became aware of me and I let her go. True legend. Not an asshole, but that's my story

Lea DeLaria. In 1998. The worst kind of asshole imaginable. I'll spare the sad details.

Jessica Lange, r22?? Why?

Do tell, R25, do tell.

I was invited to the 50th Cannes film festival anniversary. Isabelle Adjani was presiding and she was an absolute bitch to every actress who walked on the stage that night. Jeanne Moreau was so embarrassed, trying to save the day, introducing this and that " wonderful actress' and la Adjani would roll her eyes. The audience was laughing nervously. It was awful. But then again I think she's notoriously bipolar or BPD or something. Deneuve was there too. A goddess. statuesque. She walked on stage in a pale blue dress and the audience froze in awe. Stunning woman

[quote]And in the middle...There she was. Catherine Deneuve. In a trench coat and dark glasses

I wrote a few weeks ago how I saw Deneuve in Paris - how I'd just arrived and dumped my bags in my room and hit the street and she was the first person I saw. She was trying to get a taxi in front of a hotel. Huffing and puffing because she couldn't get one

I've seen Vanessa Redgrave a few times around London - she looks almost freaked out to be recognized.

John Lithgow - came in to the Harvard Square restaurant where I worked and he was very rude. He even LOOKs rude, from across the room - I am RUDE! - We were relieved when he finished and left.

[quote]Lea DeLaria. In 1998.

Never even heard of her.

Sorry to hear that about John Lithgow, I think he's a very talented guy.

[quote]I don't believe the "don't look at me" stories people tell over and over.

Years ago my brother was a reporter who got to visit the X-Files set in Vancouver. He was told not to look at Gillian or Duchovny in the eyes. I kind of get that if they're working they can get distracted/uncomfortable if someone is gawking at them.

I saw Redgrave in London, in prospero's part in a production of the winter's tale. I grew up thinking she was the greatest actress on the world, so I couldn't have been more excited. I was very near the stage, standing in the pit at the globe Shakespeare theatre. She was just horrible. Soo weird. She said her line so flatly, without any kind of intention, as if to practice them. She wouldn't look at her partners at all. They seemed baffled. I left at the intermission, crying. I was so disappointed. Later I met someone who knew someone in the cast. Apparently miss Redgrave thought the cast was beneath her, despised them, and had decided to not give them the time of day, even on stage!

ooohhhh I have to cosign Denis Leary. I worked at gym her frequented, and we were instructed not to ever ask him any questions or look him directly in the eye - to just let him do his thing and leave him alone. Noone bothered him, but he still managed to be rude as anything any chance he got. Almost like you'd expect an unstable person to be. Something has got to be off with him.

the dead chris farrell, the fat fuk from SNL

at nyc airport, total drunk fat yellin freak at ev body, had to be restrained.

guillotine!

My partner is an actor who had finished shooting a scene for some television play (this was in the 70s in the U.K.) and he and some of the other cast members stuck around to watch the next scene. The lead pitched an epic hissy fit. “Get them out of here! How do you expect me to act with all these people watching me!” My partner started laughing and got in trouble.

[quote] We were warned not to speak to Braeden.

Why? So as not to disturb his two fluffers? My partner shot a commercial with him here in canada and, yes, he arrived on the set with his two fluffers.

James Spader, in a antique store, we both looking at watches and i said hi and he gave me the look of death.

ide have knocked him out if i had brass knuckles.

r28 Adjani is always either hammered or stoned or both. She can't function sober in these occasions and her stoned self is very unappealing. Susan Sarandon is the opposite.

Oh, and of the ones I met in person, John Benjamin Hickey and Maria Sharapova.

R39^

R37, well who was it?

Chevy Chase and wife at a beautiful store in Beverly Hills buying 8 fucking napkins and being really rude to the saleswoman. I finally said Will it be much longer for someone who's actually spending some money? The wife looked at me with daggers. After they left the saleswoman thanked me.

This was way back in the early 90s, and a friend, who was part of a nonprofit arts event, told me that Ron Silver was somehow involved, and tried to get one of the people working the event to go score some coke for him. I believe someone here shared that Uma had one of her assistants carry drugs for her.

Dinner once with Sandra Bernhard -- horrible self-involved Valley Girl of a mess. And like most comedians, very angry and very not funny.

I've always found celebrities really boring in person so I don't really engage them at all.

Eminem (not nice, not normal either)....Mary J Blige (meh). I've met so many living and working in NYC over the years, it's hard to remember. Please know I am not one of those people who go up to celebs or ever ask them questions. Anyone who has been around lots of celebs gets used to it (as I know many of you all have), but you don't forget the ones that go out of their way to be a-holes.

And I have heard Maria Sharapova is hell on earth, meanest b---- ever, so i have no clue why she has any fans.

THE NICEST: Channing Tatum - too nice. Andie MacDowell, Alexis Bledel (very sweet, a little on the shy side or at least she was), worked in same building as Ivanka Trump a long time ago and she was actually very nice and very striking in person.

R43, sorry, I inadvertently omitted his name! The actor who couldn’t bear to be looked at while he was acting was John Stride. I know he’s not exactly a celebrity but I thought his meltdown was an especially silly example of the ‘Don’t Look at Me’ thing

Years ago was at some film panel in New York where one of the actors from Law and Order was speaking. I can't remember who it was. Someone said something funny, and someone in the back row made this uproarious laugh that was completely nuts. Everybody turned around and it was Chris Noth trying to draw attention to himself. He was leaning back in his chair. He continued to laugh in this way to draw attention to himself.

I know they acknowledge their careers have caused the loss of their anonymity, but I still think it must be unnerving to have people coming up to you in shops and restaurants and acting familiar with you. It’s even worse now people just stand their filming them with their phones. I don’t blame celebrities for being offhand in these situations.

It’s the working situations where you really learn what nasty pieces of work they can be.

Also, used to see Liev Schreiber try to pick up every woman in the West Village and at a number of New York film parties. He was a complete raging hard-on 24 seven.

Re john Benjamin hickey, I met him on one of those chat lines/ hookup lines in nyc circa 1991. We hooked up. Way before he was famous. Nice guy. Flat ass. Ho hum cock.

When Rosie Perez was younger, she was absolutely one of the most disgusting, abusive people on sets. I don't know if she's changed, but she was horrific back then.

I was a checker when Dack Rambo was purchasing a tube of Prep H. I looked up to collect his cash and he smiled and winked. I did the same thing back. Cool guy. Oddly, my next customer was Hugh Hefner’s wife. She greeted me with a Good Morning and very friendly. Don’t remember what she bought.

Eric B. sounds like a real jerk.

Actually, some people are just assholes, it has nothing to do with the loss of privacy. If anything, I would never gush in front a celebrity - in fact, every time I've seen one, I'd try not to gawk or initiate a conversation with them. I think I've told both these stories on DL before but, in both cases, the encounter involved taking an elevator together.

John Benjamin Hickey - quiet Saturday morning in a hotel near Wall St., barely anyone milling around. We take an elevator down to have breakfast, and there's Hickey in a bathrobe, obviously coming back from a pool or the hotel spa. The entire ride, we don't talk to him or anything but he makes these annoyed faces and upon reaching the restaurant floor, he starts pushing us out. As we are leaving the elevator, I say to my partner: "For a C-lister, missy certainly has a lot of attitude!"

Maria Sharapova - the elevator of 60 Thompson in NYC going up. I walk in, she's already there. She makes a bitchy, annoyed face and lets out this passive aggressive sigh while rolling her eyes. She was holding some tabloid and, immediately, she pulls it up to her face almost as a barrier. Again, as I was leaving, I say under my breath: "Are you hoping to read something about yourself in there?"

Almost got into a fistfight with Kiefer Sutherland at a high-end grocery store in Toronto, since he pushed my partner aside, just to make some space for himself to walk by.

I would never go up to anyone and speak, but awards shows and premieres are great. Most people are on good behavior (and drinking), but a few pigs- Kirstie Alley, Barbra, Frank Langella.

Worked on a morning show in NY back in the 90’s and 2000s. I couldn’t disagree more about Joan Collins. What a nightmare, she complained about everything, a total pain in the ass. Linda Evans was a doll. Susan Sarandon was a total bitch. Mira Sorvino arrogant and snotty. Kevin Kline...dick. Jamie Lee Curtis was an absolute dream guest. Charlize Theron was a prima donna and this was when she was promoting “Mighty Joe Young,” while Bill Paxton was totally cool.

Funny about Helen Hunt, I did a press junket with her and everyone was coming out after the sessions complaining what a horror she was to interview. I walked in and spoke to the cameraman who went to my gym about running in Cenral Park later that day. She perked up and started asking us about the route. Had a great interview with her and saw her running in the park later that day.

Deniro wasn’t an assshole he’s just not friendly and very self important.

Chevy Chase is a well known asshole.

If Mira Sorvino was assaulted, I have empathy for her. However, there is a bit of a revisionist history about how Weinstein solely killed her career (as well as Rose McGiwan's) and left her doing Lifetime TV movies.. I know that Hollywood puts up with a lot of horrible behavior and enables tyrants, but Mira from way back when she was making short films at the beginning of her career was so nasty, entitled and rude to everyone. Condescending and arrogant about her education, her dance experience, and on and on. I continued to hear stories about how badly she treated people. Did it ultimately impact her career? I don't know as I've never found her that talented. but there's no accounting for taste in the film business and this is another one where nepotism was at play.

Minor celeb but british actor Charles Dance gave me the dirtiest look when I was working as a sales assistant in a gap store back in the day. I had just very normally said hello. On the contrary, jason statham and friends knock on the door of the restaurant I was working in, on lavender hill, london, one evening, after hours. They had just ran the marathon, were exhausted, and very humbly asked if it was possible to have a beer and chips, even standing. Of course we obliged. Statham was so fucking sweet and charming we all fell head over heels. Gorgeous man. HOT. I kept smiling at him and he kept smiling back. Not in a flirty way, but like in a " I know, it's me ' kind of way. They stayed a while. Super nice. We thanked them for the honour more than they did for the food. Lovely man, you can tell he is easy aroung gays, not at all like his tough persona. And a true sportsman.

Did any U.K. posters ever have a run in with Cilla Black? In the U.K. she is now legendary as being one of the nastiest celebrities going. Famously didn’t even speak in her scouse accent (in real life) and treated anyone she encountered like dirt.

im told jason stratham is gay, darling chap

Oh Noooooii. I thought it was odd, smiling at me like that. Please tell me it's a joke

I have a Mira story. Back in the day, the year she had her oscar, we were at some event, festival whatever. There were hundreds of photographers everywhere. I spoted her nearby, and took a pic with my phone, I mean I was a guest, the + one of a vip. That mean bitch had her bodyguard (yes yes) make a fuss over my taking a pic. Cunt.

I was an intern in the US Congress when Fred Grady, Gopher in the Love Boat, was a Congressman. I had heard he absolutely hated being recognized as that guy from the Love Boat.

Weeks after I started there, I got on an elevator and there he was. He stared at me in a "don't you fucking talk to me" way the entire ride up.

That's when I concluded he must have some mental problem.

Well, my little girl asked Miss Stevie Nocks for her autograph ... and we all know how that turned out!

Any encounters with Tom Selleck?

Is Chris Sarandon Susan Sarandon's son?

Her ex husband R68.

Andrew Rannells, backstage at Hedwig. He looks like a Special Needs person and has a cunty self impressed attitude. Has ugly feet.

selleck the one who bak in the day hired every whore in nyc?

[quote][R43], sorry, I inadvertently omitted his name! The actor who couldn’t bear to be looked at while he was acting was John Stride. I know he’s not exactly a celebrity but I thought his meltdown was an especially silly example of the ‘Don’t Look at Me’ thing

NO! I LOVE John Stride.

I have a bit of a fangay crush on his younger self.

Yeah, my Joan encounters weren't great either (I've posted too many times). She thinks her pussy doesn't stink, and yes it does Joan. We all saw it in The Stud or The Bitch.

Cheap for starters. And awfully grand acting for someone who was practically a hooker before Dynasty hit.

I've never run into any interesting celebrities. Just Gayle King twice. One time at a movie theater. I came out to buy some popcorn and the lobby was empty. She was at the concession stand talking to a guy in a wheelchair. She was friendly and smiling. I was surprised so I said "hey!" and she gave me a look that told me to back off. It wasn't a big deal to me. Shrug.

Another time was when I was working in retail at a book store. She was fine. Relaxed and friendly. She wanted to know about some items on sale so I had to get my manager because I wasn't sure. My manager was a nervous wreck which was kind of stupid.

Eric Lindros, the hockey player at a nightclub. Very tall. Very quiet. Stand-offish, but not in a rude way.

Sorry to hear Frank Langella was a pig, R57. Can you be specific?

R58 here again Tom Selleck couldn’t have been any nicer. He was a total pro.

I once rode down in an elevator with that guy from the Goodbye Girl.

He had a kid with him and my friend asked if it was his.

If looks could kill.

I don't think it was such a terrible question.

Frank Langella is one of them gays! I sweah!

Baranski is truly an asshole. She thinks her sit don't stink. If a fan comes to her with a compliment, she makes her feel bad so the fan slinks away.

William Roache, Ken Barlow on Coronation Street is a complete fan asshole. I've seen fans say "Mr Barlow, I've..." and before they can finish, it's "No! No! No! I'm much too busy for this!"

shit not sit

not a giant asshole but a poor tipper. i've told this story before. i heard this from a friend. after serving sir Alex furgurson of Manchester United for hours, he was in a sports resto/bar getting comped free food all afternoon. He tipped 10 dollar to the server.

[quote]William Roache, Ken Barlow on Coronation Street is a complete fan asshole. I've seen fans say "Mr Barlow, I've..." and before they can finish, it's "No! No! No! I'm much too busy for this!"

He's SO famous in England - it must be a nightmare to be him.

SOAP people really get it - because people really think they know them.

[quote] Minor celeb but british actor Charles Dance gave me the dirtiest look when I was working as a sales assistant in a gap store back in the day. I had just very normally said hello.

Complete bug up his ass. Take it from us!

R81, is someone who is comped expected to tip?

r74 interesting about Lindros. I always figured he was standoffish but nice to hear he wasn't rude. Here in Canada, he had such a reputation as a dick, which is a big deal because hockey players are revered here.

Yes and well.

I really hope Eric Braeden's skeletons come out. He is definitely someone who needs to be taken down. Y&R just coddles his behaviour and his ego, pairing him with women half his age and always having Victor play the hero.

Linda Lavin was totally dismissive when I told her I'd enjoyed a play I'd seen her in that same night. I was humiliated and may never compliment another celeb ever again. I'll always hate her for that.

I think some situations of assholery may be just people not taking compliments well. They may be very self-critical and comments on their performance, even positive ones, may dredge up feelings of inadequacy.

There is no excuse for rudeness but some fans DO act like Ethel Mertz meeting Don Loper. They have such low self esteem that they gush and stutter and act so stupid. That is the time for a star to step UP their game, yes, and be EXTRA nice but performers are people, too. And it gets to them sometimes after the umpteenth awkward encounter with a fan.

I read a true story of a young lady who went up to Madonna and told her that she really admired her and her work. Madonna was very dismissive of her, threw her head back and walked away. A simple Thank You would suffice. Apparently Madonna is not the easiest person to be around.

[quote] Apparently Madonna is not the easiest person to be around.

I'm surprised.

[quote] I've met so many living and working in NYC over the years, it's hard to remember.

Mary!

if you're holding them up by asking for an autograph or a selfie, they have a right to say no. but if you're just giving them a compliment and being polite, and they behave like Christine Baransjki does, you have every right (if they can't get you fired) to walk away and mutter:

1) "Gee, and you seemed like such a nice person on TV..."

OR

2) "Oh my... look who thinks she's God's gift!"

OR (most preferred)

2) "Wow, wait till I post about this on the Internet!"

yes, you're supposed to tip the person serving you even if you're getting free food.

Not them personally, but when Justin Timberlake and Cameron Diaz we’re together, they had both come out of the water in Waikiki to shower off. A guy on the beach took a picture of them and two huge bodyguards demanded his phone to delete the pix. It got ugly. People yelled public beach.

[quote][R81], is someone who is comped expected to tip?

r84, what an odd question. Being comped is all the more reason to tip, and tip well, as r86 says. You are still being served. Also if you have a coupon of some sort, or at a happy hour, you tip on the basis of what the meal/drinks should have cost, not what you paid.

Giant assholes...Billy Joel, Lauren Bacall and Nathan Lane. Sweethearts...WH Macy, Tim Curry, David Bowie - lots of others. My experience has been that the majority of celebrities are decent people. A lot of it depends on mood, time and place, and how they're approached.

Most celebs have borderline or narcissistic personality disorder. It's what gives them the drive, and the asshole attitude.

R97, I don’t think it was such an odd question. If I were a celebrity and was told that my meal was covered, I’m not sure it would occur to me to tip.

I've met so many living and working in NYC over the years, it's hard to remember.

Mary!

@Reply93 What does "Mary!" mean

[quote] I once rode down in an elevator with that guy from the Goodbye Girl. He had a kid with him and my friend asked if it was his.

You left out the part about your friend being a booker for "Maury."

Queen Latifah. I was at a male strip joint. Her crew came in and stood beside where I was sitting. Some big guy with her asked her if they should move me. She was like “noooo.”

A few that I remember...

The Barbary Coast Casino in Las Vegas. I was playing blackjack and was on a heater. I'd been at the same table for 4-5 hours and had no intention to get up, except to use the restroom. All the tables were full with lots of people around waiting their turn. Kiefer Sutherland pushed his way to my table and stood next to me for a few minutes. (I was sitting down and still taller than the rude, shorty fuck.) I looked at him during a shuffle and he rolled his eyes and glared at me. Five minutes later, one of the supervisors told me to gather my chips and leave the table. Privileged asshole.

Sat next to Ryan Reynolds at the Los Feliz 3 movie house about 20 years ago. He was in Two Guys and a Girl at the time. He's tall, but I'm taller. But he manspreaded the whole time, his knees in front of my, while I squeezed mine to the side. And he kept talking to the guy he was there with.

More recently, I was seated right behind Josh Radnor of HIMYM fame on a nonstop from Columbus to LAX. I had just seen Liberal Arts, a movie he wrote directed, and starred in. It was his directorial debut. I truly loved it. I didn't disturb him during the flight at all. At baggage claim, I was mildly surprised to see him waiting for a checked bag along with the rest of the hoi polloi. About six feet away from me, he was leaning against a pole with his hands in his pockets. I looked at him, he looked at me. We exchanged nods. I took one step closer and told him I really liked Liberal Arts, and I hoped he was glad he did the project. He pulled his hands out of pockets, folded his armed in front of himself, and fucking turned away. Rude.

To end on a happier story, HTGAWM frequently films at my workplace. Craft services are set up right outside my building. I had to leave work for a dental appointment one morning and walked through craft services area. The cast and crew were on break, apparently. I accidentally bumped Matt McGorry's elbow and he spilled his coffee/drink. I apologized and he said, no problem. A couple hours later, I returned to work. Again, I had to walk through craft services to get to my building's door. My mouth was swollen from the work I'd had done, and I had a huge chunk of gauze in it. As I was walking through, McGorry was sitting at one of the tables and looked up at me. I nodded at him, but he jumped up and asked if I was alright. I mumbled dentist, sorry about the coffee earlier. He told me to stay there and he ran into one of the trucks and came back with an ice pack for my face. What a nice guy! (Completely beside the point, he is really fit and his doughy onscreen face is exactly how he looks up close in person.)

Frank Langella was doing the STAGE AIDS benefit- I believe it is the longest running for AIDS. Lots of Broadway stars. Shared dressing rooms, and it's a long show- 4+ hours. Everyone works like a dog. Group numbers and solos.

He acted like he was the star and made a volunteer cry. Was hated by all and never asked back.

R99 Maybe it's just me but being comped something makes me tip even better. If a server doesn't charge for the soda's on the tab or something like that, I will usually tip that amount to them instead. I already planned on spending it and if they are hooking me up, I feel like it's the least I can do.

I used to run into Gene Siskel at art and antique auctions, and when he got out bid on something he had this weird habit of glaring at whoever won the auction. He would get this big angry scowl on his face and just lock on to the winning bidder, sometimes for minutes at a time. I don't think he was actually angry at the other person, he was mad at himself for not getting the item, but it really made people uncomfortable to look over and see him glaring like that.

[quote]If I were a celebrity and was told that my meal was covered, I’m not sure it would occur to me to tip.

As a non-celebrity, r99, if your meal is comped, you know enough to tip, don't you? Why would celebrities be any different?

R104 I read Frank Langella's book of a few years back and he was very catty about celebrities he knew/worked with and his description of them. I saw him on a TV interview and he said that HE was the star of every movie he was in. Seemed like not the nicest person.

Thanks, R104. It's odd, because Langella can seem somewhat self-reflective and aware, but apparently can't stop the self-destructive behavior that by his own admission caused him periods of unemployment.

A fan told a story of his encounter with Katharine Hepburn back in the day.

She was in a car with the window rolled down and he handed her a book of photos of her and asked if she would autograph it.

She used a fountain pen to autograph the book and then slammed it shut hard so that the autograph would smear.

But I do give her credit for being nice enough to sign the book in the first place.

R71, do tell, do tell. I never heard THIS before. Details, please. Does he still own a vacation home in Maine?

Speaking for a family member who has worked with many celebs:

Huge assholes: Ellen DeGeneres (the worst), Debra Messing, Miss Diana Ross, Aretha, Richard Dreyfuss, Kelly Preston, Ben Stiller, Neil Diamond, Howard Stern, Jonah Hill (entitled brat with a coke problem), Christina Aguilera, Ben Affleck, Madonna (mega bitch with man hands), Andy Cohen (narcissistic cokehead), Tyra Banks (ego the size of jupiter, treats staff like shit), Gayle King, Matt Lauer, Michael Jordan (treats his fans like shit)

Meh: Oprah, Streisand, Beyonce and Jay-Z, Tom Cruise, Cher, Bette Midler, Chris Rock, Janet Jackson, JLo, Justin Timberlake, Matt Damon, Whoopi

Just plain nuts: Mariah, Halle Berry, Nic Cage, Winona Ryder, Jenna Elfman, Faye Dunaway, Rosie O'Donnell, Courtney Love

Mira Sorvino was mentioned. She's 50 now and has started to make faith-based movies. Maybe it'll help her attitude or maybe she needs the work.

Angela Lansbury- bad vaginal odor.

Rupert Everett

I often wonder if some of these people expect too much from celebrities. For example, if I met Streisand and I said "I loved you in this or that.", all I'd expect from her would just be a "thank you. That's nice to hear." I have this one friend who's obsessed with meeting celebrities and he gets really mad if they don't sit down and tell him their entire life stories. Who has the time? Be glad they gave you an autograph and said "thanks."

However, I would like to know about the ones who go out of their way to be cunty. The most well confirmed one seems to be Lauren Bacall. Everyone seems to think she was the cuntiest cunt who ever cunted.

I like DeNiro if only because he nodded and smiled at me once when I was on a corner and he was walking down Broadway in SoHo. I didn't even realize who he was until after, I was too busy smoking my cigarette.

Everyone knows Selleck is a gay man and he had a boyfriend in NY City. So he was not hiring a lot of hookers.

I know someone who worked for Rosie O. said she was funny and nice. well, we all know she is bipolar so maybe my friend saw her good side lol. vanessa williams also very nice.

yes Mariah C is major diva and nuts...someone I know said she was a cunt, she was naming all the cunts she worked for-Paula Abdul (coke and pills), the blond chick from orange is the new black, Juliette Binoche, and a few others I can't remember. it's been a while and I did report my findings right after hearing it to the DL.

Oh no! Juliette Binoche? I love her!

[quote]Selleck is a gay man and he had a boyfriend in NY City. So he was not hiring a lot of hookers.

I’m sure he wasn’t hiring them. Probably just visiting old pals from the days when he was the highest paid hustler in NYC himself.

I have worked as an entertainment journalist in LA for decades (it goes by fast); it's all changed now with social media.

Celebrities tweet and Instragram shit about themselves that if they told me back in the day I wouldn't dare print it.

Most of my encounters happen when the talent KNOWS I'm representing a publication with hundreds of thousands -- or, again, back in the day -- millions of readers. So they're going to be nice. They're nice to me, they're nice to my readers.

MOST of the people were really nice and appreciated that I'm familiar with their backgrounds. I do my homework and have a good memory. One time, an actress told a publicist I knew a little too much about her and she wanted to call me to clear the air. I told the publicist no, thank you. Please don't give out my number. Tell her I value my privacy. (Okay, I didn't say that but I soooo wanted to. Plus, she never called; she started out as a child star and I think is messed up; I didn't take it personally.)

But I'm very close to saying the next time I get painted negatively: "Listen, nobody cares. With social media, everyone's a star. Everyone wants their story told. I'll do what I can to promote you, but it's not like the old days."

Tracy Scoggins (The Colbys) - I know so random - was incredibly nice. So was Michael J. Fox and his wife. All of the pro dancers on Dancing With the Stars. Jeanne Cooper (RIP), Peter Bergman, Linda Gray (exceptionally kind).

The stories I've read here about others are also ones I've heard, especially Helen Hunt. But I read the poster who had a delightful encounter with her. I believe that too.

I think the evil ones have good days and the good ones have an off day. I'd never want to catch a nice person on a bad day.

A comic book writer, Peter David, recounted a story once. I believe he referred to the time Paul Newman told someone at a urinal who wanted an autograph no; and that all he owed his public was his performance. David agreed that a urinal was not the best place to ask for an autograph, and he felt that yes, as an ACTOR that's all anyone owes their audience. But as a HUMAN BEING when someone comes up to you and says that their work has touched them, it meant something, that they enjoyed you, well, then you have a responsibility not to crush that person like a bug.

That made a lot of sense to me.

Back in the early 80's, I saw the Three Degrees (remember them?) throw a huge tantrum on stage because they didn't think the audience were paying enough attention to them.

This was in a club called The Golden Garter which was in the middle of a council estate in Manchester, UK. It was part of the Northern Circuit and lots of famous people played there.

People were happily eating their chicken in a basket and chatting with friends and it did not go down well with the diva's. They stopped the show and started lecturing people on good manners and how they should be watching the performance not doing anything else.

The arrogance didn't go down well and people started booing and eventually all three Degrees stormed off the stage and refused to come back on. More boo's and one seriously pissed off audience.

A few days later an apology from the Three Degrees was published in the local newspaper. Don't think they played there again though.

In that situation, r123, the chicken-in-a-basket eaters were the assholes.

I've met Eric B out in public - at a tennis tournament in LA. He was with his son and daughter in law and couldn't have been nicer. He was a fan of Andre Agassi and said he was going to meet him after the match. It was during the time on the show when Victor had re-married Ashley and he said lovely girl, lovely girl about Eileen. I asked him if he missed working with Melody and he said "she's all the way on the other side of the set...I don't get to talk to her' which I thought was odd.

Most of you do realize these people are entertainers, nothing more. They are not coming up with a cure for a rare disease, they basically do nothing but entertain and are unfortunately paid way too much money for what they do. The world's priorities are certainly skewed.

Perhaps if people didn't expect performers to be no different from others, you wouldn't be setting yourselves up to be disappointed. Most performers have huge egos, even the ones who profess to be humanitarians and are always pushing some charity, they're assholes too. For most of them, their public image is light years away from what they're really like. My advice, don't bother with any of them. Look at them, even stick out your tongue, then say nothing! Freak them out for once!

The saddest stories are when I hear how rude these celebs are to the people working on the sets of their films and TV series, don't these self absorbed bastards realize without the 100s of other people working on their crap films and TV shows, most of them wouldn't come across as the 'movie stars' they think they are. It's takes a village! The film crew, makeup people, well, everyone working on a film to TV series contributes to it's success.

These celebs heads are so far up their fucking asses, they think all it takes to make a successful film, or TV series, in their presence on the set.

some actors are stupid. they should be nice to their fans, then they will support your next project. Most actors for the most part are nice at events like premieres and happily take selfies and sign autographs.

for me, if I find out an actor is a huge asshole, I will never spend a single cent to watch anything he does again. For example, Russell Crowe. Fucking asshole. I will never forget that he was so upset with the front desk that he took the hotel phone in his room, went to the lobby and threw it at the person. What a fucking piece of shit.

When I was very young, I thought for five minutes that acting would be a great profession.I had one line in a movie with Nick Nolte. The set was like a furnace and it was a period piece so heavy costumes. At one point I had to drink, all the bottles were stocked behind mr. Nolte's empty chair, so I vaguely lean over the chair to grab one. Mr Nolte, who is talking with an assistant, gives me the LOOK of DEATH. Runs to a grip, who gives me the dirtiest look imaginable, takes the chair up as if it were the Holy reliquary, and puts it away in a safe, rummy-free area. And believe it or not Paltrow was in this movie set too..don't get me started. Neddless to say I am now teaching sports to children

[quote]Minor celeb but british actor Charles Dance

Dude, where have you been? Charles Dance is now famous, after playing the legendary Tywin Lannister on Game of Thrones for five seasons!

R130 Oh ok! I don't watch that show.

I will never get tired of these threads! Especially, the mean celebrity ones.

The person that mentioned Eminem upthread, can you elaborate? Was he abrasive, dissmive or any other kind of -isve?

R128 apparently russell was soooo upset that he didn't get to talk to his then-wife...the cheap looking blonde with a bad nosejob and oversized implants who only married him for the money and fame.

And then she later divorced him anyway.

The phone incident happened almost 13 years ago. I can't recall any recent incidents involving Crowe.

Anyone have any personal encounter stories about him?

True story, as I was just finishing drama school, I had the leading role in the school's production of 'the seagul'.several agents called me to sign me in. One of them, an woman, took me to a premiere. There was a creepy ugly much older fat guy who was at the time one of the industry's most powerful casting director. He took a look at me, came to us and she introduced me. We had small talk and he gave me his phone number. The we reached our seats. She looked transfixed and whispered to me ominously ' you have to see him...a lot'

R18 who were the pop singers or pop singers who had former hits decades ago?

I must be lucky, everyone that's famous who I have met has been nice.

I saw Mary Pat Gleason at a restaurant in Mid Town. She was eating alone so I didn't bother her.

I'd like to add my perspective to the "Don't even look at me" syndrome. First off- let me preface this with the fact that my usual attitude towards celebrities is to leave them in peace. I see (and read here) that there are people that are over the top obnoxious with them, so I feel they get enough shit that I don't want to add to the problem. When I see a celebrity out and about I make it a point not to look at them and I certainly would never approach one.

One night a number of years ago I was out at some club with friends when our table was joined by a couple of ladies. One of which was the red haired chick from the B-52's. She knew one of my friends at the table. I like them but I don't really think of myself as a "fan".

Anyway I noticed that about 4 or 5 times I would find myself looking at her/notice my eyes were resting on her face. I would catch myself and look away but I just thought it was so weird that that it happened given my prevailing view towards celebrities. It was like I couldn't help myself - my peepers had a mind of their own. If I remember correctly I think she noticed but was probably so used to it that she didn't really give it a second thought. Or maybe she was annoyed (I would be).

So I guess maybe celebrities have a secret power that draws us in without even realizing it. Some secret sauce that gets them there in the first place.

I was upset with myself for violating my own rule and felt like a chump though.

if you ever see al pacino dining in a resto, feel free to go say hi or ask for a picture, he will never say no. I remember him saying that he knows that he wouldn't be where he is without his fans, in a 60min interview, that he doesn't mind being approached in a resto.

I would never approach any celeb in that manner but if you're a huge fan and you happen to see him in a resto and you're wondering if you should go over...

I'll bet Al Pacino doesn't say "resto."

It is one thing to be rude (especially to staff, crew, etc). A very different thing is not to engage in conversarion when being aoproached while shopping or travelling. Imagine what it must be like to be constantly interrupted, approached, etc. Kudos to the ones that are nice but I dont blame celebraties that dono encourage this...

Diane Keaton is a nut job. She was speaking at some women's convention in Cincinnati and I saw her enter the lobby with an entourage. We made eye contact and I nodded. Seconds later she sent over one of her female 'team' to say to me don't please approach Diane. She is preparing for her speech and she can't have people disturbing her. As I looked back at Diane she was chatting nosily with all of her contingent. I politely told her assistant I didn't know who she was, is a politician? The woman scowled and went back to Diane whispering in her ear. Diane looked back up to me and smiled.

R124 Oh yes, and famous for it. Northern audiences are notoriously bad. They weren't impressed by the show and had no problem showing it. And in fairness, it was a pretty dire show. Lots of posing and sneering glances at the audience. The three of them clearly thought the place beneath them. Not the best way to treat an audience.

Lens Dunham. I've never met her in person or run into her ever anywhere, but I can imageine she would not be very pleasent.

R142 I'm sorry but I don't follow that story at all. Or is that the point?

I met Joan Collins in a cemetery and she was nice as could be.

I went to see the grave of a long ago ancestor, she was there. I asked who she was there to see and she answered 'My future' and began to laugh. Her parents were buried there. We had a lovely chat about the area and she walked me to her favorite grocer.

Now Oprah can outcunt the cuntiest.

[quote]I met Joan Collins in a cemetery and she was nice as could be.

Where was this?

[quote]and she walked me to her favorite grocer.

Nonsense.

R145 that story at r142 made perfect sense.

years ago, think late 1990'aor early 2000'a, a friend talked me into going to listen a speech by Russell Simmons. I paid $125 for the charity thing that was hosting him - at the Hilton on 6th Avenue. A total fucking dick. He showed up late, spoke for maybe 15 minutes, and it obvious he didn't prepare. He's short, ugly, had a big entourage. It was an event to supposedly support some black charity, turns out all the money paid went to him. He's a fucking fraud. I was outside after, he's there waiting for his car. A Rolls shows up, his grotesque wife, Kimora, she gets out, screams like she's never seen him - to make sure everyone noticed her. She had huge hips and a turkey neck - and was her kid UGLY - she inherited his tortoise face.

[quote] THE NICEST: Channing Tatum - too nice. Andie MacDowell

That's because they're southerners. They were probably raised to treat people nicely until there was a reason not to.

Re: Eric Braeden. I've seen lots of interviews with him (look on YouTube). He always comes off as the nicest, kindest , most humble & self deprecating man ever. Obviously an act based on the stories noted above.

Some celebrities are nice, or at minimum can act civil in public, and then let their true selves show on the set.

Chris Farley, dumbass R36 - and the rest of your post proves you can’t spell worth a shit.

Whoa, wait a minute R121. You are saying he was the highest paid hustler in NYC? DETAILS, please!!! I never heard that before.

That never happened R153. Only on DL is Selleck gay. IRL he is your regular republican homophobic ex-pussy hound married man. Never mind

That's a cool cemetery, r146 -- Kay Kendall is nearby.

R64 , Mira won her Oscar in 1995, camera phones didn't come out until the early 2000s.

R156 in what universe ?

Why do I even bother R156 ?

[quote]The three of them clearly thought the place beneath them.

From what you describe, r143, it clearly was beneath them.

R159 It really wasn't. I saw Gloria Gaynor there, and Shakatak, Odyssey, the Drifters. All of whom went down a storm. I saw Gladys Knight and the Pips who were fantastic. Previous acts included Dusty Springfield, Gene Pitney, Tony Christie, Roy Orbison, Eartha Kitt. Far bigger people than the Three Degrees.

It was a typical Northern club of its time and if the act put on a good show, then the audience showed it's appreciation.

Funnily enough, The Three Degrees had played there a few times before. So it's not as if they didn't know what they were getting into.

[quote]All of whom went down a storm.

"(Going) down a storm" is a good thing, I take it.

Its depressing how many of the phones at R156 I've owned. Even more depressing how much money I've pissed away on them over the years.

I saw Eric Idle in an oyster bar eating alone, nobody noticing him. I continued on past, then joined my group of friends. I asked the waiter to bring "that gentleman" another of whatever he was drinking and deliver my note. I wrote "Loved Greedy Bastard Tour. Already have Spamalot tickets. Thanks for years of laughter! --my name".

He came to our group when he was done eating, thanked me by name, and chatted with me for a bit. Gave me some Spamalot autographed memorabilia. My friends were astonished. Great encounter.

R158 First cellphone with a camera didn't come out until 2002.

R84, restaurant servers must claim their gross receipts, and that's how the IRS determines likely tips earnings. It's been decades since I worked in a restaurant, but I believe you had to claim 8% or something like that.

So yes, I got killed a couple of times where the owner would comp a table of his friends and I would get 0 tip. I finally refused to take any more of his comps and explained why. I understand people might not understand this, but the same goes anytime you get a gift card where the tip is not included. The idea that servers' tips are 100% under the table is not correct and you can lose if you get stiffed or low tips.

"I saw Redgrave in London, in prospero's part in a production of the winter's tale."

Prospero is the lead character in THE TEMPEST. I recall hearing about that production and that it was not well-directed.

"THE NICEST: Channing Tatum - too nice. Andie MacDowell"

I believe that about Tatum, but I've heard many stories from folks in the Asheville, NC area where MacDowell lives that she carries on like a very self-important bitch. I frequently get the feeling that moderately talented actors who never had the careers they thought they should have tend to let their bitterness show in all sorts of ways.

Great story about Matt McGorry, r103. When I first saw pics from his fitness-trainer days, I assumed he was a typical Hollywood douchebag. But then he seemed so self-aware, sensitive, and down-to-earth in his interviews. Nice to know that that wasn't just an act.

Mary Pat Gleason is nice; she's been companion or maid to two legendary TV characters: Alexandra Spaulding and Karen Walker.

I heard Simon Cowell witnessed two American Idol contestants/finalists turn down a fan for autographs and he ripped into them, telling them that they were throwing away record sales and to NEVER be rude to your fans.

He was right.

There's been a lot of talk on this thread about fans and their expectations. Let's not forget the other side of the coin.

Some celebs can't stand it if they're NOT paid attention to.

They want it both ways.

I think it's nice for everyone to some day meet their favorite celebrity. "Hi. I'm a big fan of your work. It really resonated with me when you did this scene or played this character. The talent looks warmly into your eye and says thanks. I always appreciate hearing that." You get a selfie and you move on. End of story.

Just because a celeb is nice to an fan/stranger/set worker doesn't mean they aren't an asshole to their friends/family and vice versa. Some of the biggest celebrities treat their fans like gold but their spouses/each other/friends/family members toxic. Just sayin'.

Please spill the Freddy Krueger dish, r9.

[quote] Just sayin'.

Just say more. With names. But only of those you've witnessed.

Assholes: Paul Simon, Billy Joel, Kris Jenner (bitch on wheels), Marlo Thomas, Kelly Ripa, Avril Lavigne, Bobby Brown, Puff Daddy, Bethenney Frankel, Kesha, Sean Penn

Crazy: Lady Gaga, Britney (very robotic, on a lot of meds), Kanye, Demi Lovato, Demi Moore, Sharon Stone, Mia Farrow, Dennis Rodman, Janice Dickinson

Bobby Brown is an asshole? Really now...you expect me to believe Bobby "Draws Devil Eyes On The Walls" Brown is an asshole?

[quote]Assholes: Bethenney Frankel

Who could have known?

She’s only a celebrity in her own head, but Ben Stiller’s sister is the terror of the upper west side. I remember hearing her shouting into her phone in a small vegan restaurant right beneath a sign that said said the place was a phone free restaurant. When the manager reminded her about it she lost her shit. This was one of several moments my friends and I have witnessed her crazy. I’m sure she’s a treat to deal with on a regular basis. Bitch.

Any run-ins with Matt Bomer? I imagine he’s really pleasant like Channing Tatum.

I spent 10 minutes standing in front of the Duane Reade in Long Island City staring at Matt's ass while he stood by craft services munching standing up and chatting with the server. Seemed like a nice guy with a great ass.

"The camera equipped cell phones were invented in 2002" troll is tired

R176, this is why I love Family Guy.

Out of nowhere, Peter will dump on Ben Stiller's big ears and then add 'his movies are terrible.'

Just once I'd love to go off on a pretentious celeb and tell them they're not all that.

[quote]Assholes?

Pics please.

R166 I wonder if there are different cultural perspectives at play in McDowell's case. Southern people tend to be very polite and have a friendly quality. To people from the north east or even west coast that can read as super nice. To people in the south that behavior isn't special so they see the other character qualities. I have southern relatives and the women are really good at back handed complements while maintaining a surface sweetness.

I served Andie McD a couple times and she was gracious and willing to sign for people. While she was eating.

Entertainment reporter here. I did go through a DVD signing line and complimented a TV actor on his show. He gave a sing-songy response 'that's why I do what I do!' zero eye contact; but then again he was signing the dvd; then I ran into him as a journalist; he was super nice; looked me in the eye; we had a conversation.

Granted, it was two different scenarios and thus the encounters were different, but it is an odd thing to go from fan to industry person and see how it all shifts.

I do think asking for an autograph is counter productive if you only get the celeb for a minute; they're spending the precious seconds signing, I'd rather get in a quick hello and have them look you in the eye.

I used to work at Tower Records by Lincoln Center when I was a teenager and we used to get celebs in all the time. Every now and then I would be requested because I actually knew something about music unlike most of the people who worked there. It was no big deal and I just treated them like any other customer. I used to shop for a lot of directors.

We also had to go up to everyone who came into the department (I worked in a section downstairs) and ask if they needed help, no matter who they were. I always hated doing that. I felt it was an invasion of privacy no matter who it was and if they needed help, they'd come to the counter and ask.

I went up to Whoopi one time and before I could open my mouth, she very wearily, but politely and firmly, said- I can't sign anything. If I do it for you, I have to do it for everyone. And I said, also politely, oh, I don't want an autograph, I just have to ask everyone who comes down here if they need help. I hate it as much as you do. That made her laugh, and I think she was embarrassed.

Steve Martin was doing a show at Lincoln Center at the time and came in once or twice and was a massive asshole. Just had an attitude like he was better than everyone and when approached, rudely ignored the person like they didn't even exist. I remember catching his eye at one point and scowling at him.

Maureen McGovern lived across the street and would come in a lot. Not a friendly lady, even though no one bothered her or even knew who she was.

Bacall used to frequent Tower Video down the block and the horror stories about her were legendary, but I waited on her a couple times and she was polite and no-nonsense.

We once had to stay open after midnight for Madonna to come in and shop privately. They kept one person from every section at a register. She never made it downstairs, but I was told she was fine and behaved herself.

I remember Joshua Bell and his girlfriend coming in one afternoon and I did have a thing for him and loved his recordings and told him so and he and his girlfriend were both really kind and appreciative and down to earth. it's not something I would usually do, but considering I was selling his CDs at the time and recommending them, I figured it was okay to bring it up.

The same thing with Dianne Reeves, who was doing an in-store signing. I had been a big champion of her debut album and played it in store every chance I could, and wound up moving quite a few units based on playing it and recommendations. She came downstairs to meet me personally to thank me and signed a CD (which I actually still have somewhere).

Howard McGillin would come in after doing Anything Goes every couple weeks or so and shopped for a lot of classical. I'd give him fierce discounts and and always just shake my head for him to not react.

And this didn't happen in the store, but my mom came to visit me one day and we took a walk by Lincoln Center and the Vivian Beaumont so I could show it to her. We were looking down into the lobby from the street and I spotted Kathleen Widdoes who was on As the World Turns at the time. I pointed her out to my mom, who was all excited, and Widdoes somehow noticed us noticing her, got a big smile on her face and waved at us. That made my mom's day.

Longtime Warner Bros. casting director Barbara Miller was worse than any of the actors she ever cast. Everyone was afraid of her.

Oh, and when the Go-Gos reunited back in 1994 for the first time and released that 2-disc rarities compilation, they did an in-store at the downtown Tower in the village. I wasn't working for Tower anymore but I still had friends in both stores, so I decided to go down and have them sign my Rolling Stone with them on the cover. Again, I'm not much for autographs but I had been a massive Go-Gos fan when I was a kid and thought I could frame the cover afterwards (which I did).

In order, they were placed at the table- Jane first, then Gina, then Kathy, Charlotte and Belinda bringing up the rear. And they must have known exactly what they were doing, because they started with the friendliest and ended with the cunt. And I was not there to make chit chat, I wanted to just get my autographs, say thank you, be in their presence for a few seconds each and go on my way.

Jane was incredibly lovely, asked my name, how to spell it, addressed the autograph to me, thanked me for coming and for being a fan, etc, etc. Gina was also friendly, but not as gregarious as Jane. Kathy was fine. Not friendly, but polite. Charlotte barely could be bothered to say hello, and Belinda refused to even make eye contact with anyone, just scribbled and shoved it back at you, scowling the whole time.

I don't think I ever got another person's autograph after that.

Google is your friend R179. Publicly available cellphones with a camera were not available until 2002.

Nice stories, R187.

[quote]I heard Simon Cowell witnessed two American Idol contestants/finalists turn down a fan for autographs and he ripped into them, telling them that they were throwing away record sales and to NEVER be rude to your fans.

Easy for him to say -- he doesn't have any fans.

How does that make them assholes, r45?

I've met Robert Englund at a convention and, the first night, I ran into him in the lobby and he was as nice as could be. I finally got around to standing in line for him to sign a poster 2 or 3 days later (on the last day of the show) and he was cold and dismissive. It was very "business as usual" for him. I didn't hold it against him. I can't imagine how exhausting it must be to spend an entire weekend with fanboys asking you to sign this and that. I'm sure his hand was exhausted.

Edgar Ramirez is a lovely guy with great manners. His manager/fag hag is a bit of cunt who won't let anyone get near him.

Well, it doesn't sound like Englund did anything untoward, r192.

There are tons of Youtube videos of him at conventions -- he's always personable, talkative and knowledgeable. That he does a million conventions shows that he likes the engagement more than some movie stars.

So glad to hear he and Eric Idle don't have any real horror stories -- they're two of my favorite celebs.

I was shopping at a Target just outside of Cape Cod. As I was heading towards the cashier, I noticed two women with two girls. The girls were happily looking at items on the nearby register endcaps. One woman was tending to the children and the other was standing with their cart.

The woman had her cart near the entrance to the register line but was just sitting there - I suppose waiting for the girls and the other woman to finish up. Still, not wanting to rude, I asked her if she was in line or if I could go ahead up to the cashier.

You would have thought that I called her kids fugly trolls. She just sat their glaring at me while waiting for the other woman to finally tell me that I could go ahead.

The cashier mentioned to me that the woman with the cart was Amanda Peet. She was shooting a movie nearby with Steve Carell. I grabbed my bags and glanced back. She was still in the same spot ..looking miserable.

Their = there Apologies.

I once had a very odd encounter with Karen Black. We were walking down the street and asked if I knew where a coffee shop was. I said not really but there is a Ralph's over there and they sometimes have shops inside or near them. She said WHAT???!!!!! like I had given her the oddest advice ever. I think she was having a senior moment.

[quote]Steve Martin was doing a show at Lincoln Center at the time and came in once or twice and was a massive asshole. Just had an attitude like he was better than everyone and when approached, rudely ignored the person like they didn't even exist.

Why am I NOT surprised.

[quote]I remember catching his eye at one point and scowling at him.

LOL- you showed him, gurl!

Nice ones: Alanis Morissette, Philip Seymour Hoffman.

I remember eating dinner at a restaurant with my partner and Hoffman was there with his wife and his little boy (I got the impression they were regulars there.) At one point, the kid screamed, and all the patrons turned and stared at them. Hoffman was truly embarrassed and apologetic - he offered a profuse apology to everybody in the restaurant and told us it wouldn't happen again. He and his wife gave the impression of being a very down to Earth couple.

Alanis - a friend and I ran into her at a shop downtown Toronto, she was chatting with the owner, and, then, my friend started pestering her with endless compliments. She was so gracious and kept thanking him and smiling, telling him he was so kind. Mind you, that was around 1998-1999 when she was a huge star, which makes it even more remarkable.

[quote] I was working at Tower Records on Sunset Blvd. She came in, and was looking though some CDs. I said "Miss. Baranski, I just wanted to tell you that I love your work. You've made me laugh so many times"... Her answer "wellll, that's my job" and she walked away. How about "Thank you. Always nice to hear' fucking cunt.

C'mon that's actually a funny line.

Being from NY and being movie theater managers, my friends and I have met hundreds of celebs from movie premieres to Broadway, and are never star struck. One year we all decided to go to Hollywood on vacation. There's four of us. We came upon a movie on location in the middle of the city. It was "Sunset" directed by Blake Edwards starring Bruce Willis and Malcolm McDowell.

So we are standing next to the trailers when Malcolm McDowell walks up and just starts talking to us. Really cool, takes pictures, and off to his trailer he goes. A minute late Bruce Willis shows up. I ask, "Mr Willis, may I take your picture? He screams NO YOU MAY NOT! and stands on the little porch outside his trailer door with his arms folded like, go head, I dare you.

So not being intimidated I said, "For the record, I'm not the paparazzi, just a movie theater manager from New York and I was going to hang the picture in my office so my staff could see, they are big fans. And oh this picture will flop", and I turned and walked away. When we played the movie I didn't even put his name on the marquee, why bother, it indeed flopped.

[quote]Well, it doesn't sound like Englund did anything untoward, [R192]. There are tons of Youtube videos of him at conventions -- he's always personable, talkative and knowledgeable. [bold]That he does a million conventions shows that he likes the engagement more than some movie stars.[/bold]

And the bank. Some celebs make serious income at these things - often cash and carry. Although Englund may enjoy the engagement, it is highly unlikely that that is a primary motivator for him.

Early 90s, LA. i was at weekly club on Sunset, I think it was called Sit-n-Spin. It was early so it wasn't very crowded. All of a sudden I see Jackie Beat coming towards me. So I said "Jackie Beat! You're so funny and talented!' Her fast retort as she sauntered right past me: "I KNOW!"

I was crushed.

Martin Freeman of The Office/Sherlock/Fargo. Foul and unattractive. Rolled eyes and swore when shoving past out of a door. Didn’t recognise him. People who saw approached and asked why he was so rude!

LOL at R197's encounter with Karen Black. That sounds like a lot of the ones I had while living in L.A. When they are just on the streets or in the grocery store, it's very different from meeting them at a signing or premiere or whatever.

Can't you just hear Karen Black bleating, "WHAT?!" to that guy trying to be nice. It's up there with Janie Layne's "GET OUT!!!!" from the infamous "I Just Slept with Janie Layne" thread.

My partner and I were in the bar at the Driskill Hotel in Austin, TX, watching this black lady singer, who's an Austin institution, perform at the piano, when Karen Black walks in and orders a drink. After a few drinks, Miss Black waltzes up to the piano and grabs the mic from the singer's hand, and proceeds to scold her in front of everyone. She said something about how the singer wasn't singing the lyrics correctly and had the mood of the song all wrong. She told her that she knew the composer, and if she wanted to continue singing the song, she'd have to sing it correctly. The poor singer was stunned.

Awfully grand for an actress that spent years doing shitty movies.

{quote]Anyway I noticed that about 4 or 5 times I would find myself looking at her/notice my eyes were resting on her face. I would catch myself and look away but I just thought it was so weird that that it happened given my prevailing view towards celebrities. It was like I couldn't help myself - my peepers had a mind of their own. If I remember correctly I think she noticed but was probably so used to it that she didn't really give it a second thought. Or maybe she was annoyed (I would be). So I guess maybe celebrities have a secret power that draws us in without even realizing it. Some secret sauce that gets them there in the first place. I was upset with myself for violating my own rule and felt like a chump though.

Why didn't you simply start a conversation, just like you would with someone else who isn't famous? That's what must surely annoy the celebs who are actually nice, the fact so many people treat them like a fine piece of easily breakable porcelain. Over the years, due to my job, I've met tons of celebs, if you don't treat them like they are gods, the nice ones do welcome normal conversations. Don't talk about them, don't tell them how much you enjoy their work, talk about something else.

[quote]Anyway I noticed that about 4 or 5 times I would find myself looking at her/notice my eyes were resting on her face. I would catch myself and look away but I just thought it was so weird that that it happened given my prevailing view towards celebrities. It was like I couldn't help myself - my peepers had a mind of their own. If I remember correctly I think she noticed but was probably so used to it that she didn't really give it a second thought. Or maybe she was annoyed (I would be). So I guess maybe celebrities have a secret power that draws us in without even realizing it. Some secret sauce that gets them there in the first place. I was upset with myself for violating my own rule and felt like a chump though.

Why didn't you simply start a conversation, just like you would with someone else who isn't famous? That's what must surely annoy the celebs who are actually nice, the fact so many people treat them like a fine piece of easily breakable porcelain. Over the years, due to my job, I've met tons of celebs, if you don't treat them like they are gods, the nice ones do welcome normal conversations. Don't talk about them, don't tell them how much you enjoy their work, talk about something else.

a friend waited on mick jagger at book soup in los angeles. said he treated him like a person and genuinely asked his opinion on some books. that made me happy. different friend had odd or bad experiences with joan didion (was rude at a paid event and only answered questions with one word replies).

Frank Langella is an odd bird. I used to know him intimately. He was charming and funny. Tres gay. Sort of got off on the gay rumors. Lived with Whoopie Goldberg at the time. Was very sensitive to gossip about them together. Very self involved, and quite a mindfucker and liked it. So I saw bitchy, vulnerable, and his sexual kinks. He likes drama. He was always very nice to me, until he dumped me. He lied clumsily to me, to get rid of me. He loved gossip about peoples sexual proclivities,I would entertain him

So, you fucked Frank Langella? Details, please.

I shared a housekeeper with Frank. She said he was a terrific guy, very well mannered, generous, also quite neat, but unfortunately a sloppy bottom.

Hi R147. That's what Joan is like whether this story is true or not. I've interacted with her and her husband a lot over the last few years and they are very down to earth people. I expect the public Diva persona is all for show cause that's what people expect and it gets her work. The whole family is really nice . I have an open invitation from her and Percy to come over for dinner whenever I'm in LA on business. They just offered out of the blue. When I first heard I was going to have to deal with them I thought "Oh no" but I was pleasantly surprised when I met them., not at all what you'd expect.

Channing Tatum is very nice, He is also better looking in person. James Franco was quirky but friendly. Whoopi in Vegas was regular people with a lovely smile.

I've posted before that I interacted with Mark Feuerstein at Princeton, and that he was once a complete dick to me--he made fun of a baseball cap I was wearing to a friend right in front of me. Maybe he has changed because he's an adult now, but he was an asshole then. When he would attend events for actors or writers who were holding studios or master classes at the university, he would speak in a pretentious 'actorly' voice that wasn't at all like how he normally spoke.

I know Mark, Short, privileged, Jewish cunt. He gets uglier as he ages.

I have worked with many stars in the past through jobs in agencies and management/production companies- Samuel L. Jackson, Naomi Watts, Teri Hatcher, James Spader, Angelina Jolie, Cameron Diaz, Leonardo DiCaprio, and many more - but the only truly bad "celebrity encounter" I've had was with Zelda Rubenstein, she of "Go into the Liiiiight" fame from Poltergeist. I was having drinks at The Other Side, the famous, now-closed gay piano bar in Silverlake (L.A.) and she happened to be in the same seating area around the piano with a friend. I imagine it was a weekend night. Because seeing her was so unexpected I got kin of excited and said something nice but generic like, "It's great seeing you here - I'm a big fan!" Well, she shot me a look of daggers. Like I was one of the demons she cast out in her big movie. Although I was embarrassed at the time it become kinda funny in the retelling. All of those much more famous and wealthy people and SHE'D be the one to throw STAR ATTITUDE!

R217, He is awfully hammy in that new sitcom of his. Constantly telegraphing his thoughts and emotions with overdone facial expressions. Ugh.

Speaking of Mick Jagger, I just remembered this story.

My friend is a brilliant artist, eccentric, lifelong collector of Haitian, New Guinea, Indonesian artifacts. She lives with a houseful of rare and exotic birds. She is modest, not famous, and eschews all that stuff and nonsense, but has friendships with those who are. Longtime neighbor PBS Frontline producer David Fanning introduced her to Lawrence Blair, whose earliest films about the mythic hidden realities of Indonesia and New Guinea, were funded by Mick, Ringo Starr, etc. If you're curious there is a 5 part miniseries called The Ring of Fire which he and brother Lorne created in the 80s; that's some wild stuff those guys tracked down.

Nine years later, Lawrence hosted a tour for a very select set of guests through all the places he'd originally visited for that film series funded by Mick. Mick, Jerry Hall, and other close friends were invited.

My friend was on her way to embark on the gruelling trip into the rugged Irian Jaya highlands to make paintings of birds, but at Lawrence's insistence joined him and his guests for a grand dinner before her trek.

Lawrence had planned this beforehand with hearty approval from Mick, so when my friend, purposely made the last to arrive, walked in the door Mick jumped up, rushed over and greeted her with, "So you are the famous (my friend's name!) It is such an honor to meet you!" It was all totally tongue in cheek but at the same time very sincere; she is and was a badass explorer and adventurer though next to nobody outside of niche art circles, personal friends and the likes of the obscure but notable Lawrence Blair, knew who she was. She responded in her style, laughing at the joke and dealing with it as the absurdity of cultural fame behavior that Mick was parodying.

Whatever else about him there is to know, I like that he was a good sport and poked fun, but not unkindly, at my friend.

[quote]He came to our group when he was done eating, thanked me by name, and chatted with me for a bit. Gave me some Spamalot autographed memorabilia. My friends were astonished. Great encounter.

WTF? Eric Idle just so happened to be carrying around Spamalot memorabilia to give to random fans he might encounter while going about his life?! LOOOOL Seriously?!!

Mark Feuerstein is co-starring with Linda Lavin on his sitcom. Can you IMAGINE what that set is like? I feel sorry for the rest of the cast.

I probably wouldn't recognize any star, at the most I would think that "Oh that guy looks sort of like..."

Not sure how many of these stories I believe, but an interesting read.

Helen Lawson. She's the reason I'm a drunk.

Carter would be perfect if he had the style and body awareness of a gay. Her story is bullshit! Anybody would get naked with him without any problem.

R218, LOL. That's funny that the bar was called "The Other Side." It is the subtitle for Poltergeist II.

I remember a fan posting a similar story about her once when the IMDb message boards were still around. I take it she was wary of people and not very trusting. She was once quoted as saying "Little people are societally handicapped. They have about two minutes to present themselves as equals -- and if they don't take advantage of that chance, then people fall back on the common assumption that less is less." Sounds like she was used to being treated as a lesser person/a joke and not being taken seriously.

Anyways, it is an interesting story. RIP Zelda.

I’ve seen Kiefer Sutherland get belligerently drunk and kicked out of both a restaurant (City Cafe) and a bar (The Edendale).

My husband used to have Jessica Alba as a client at his business, and said she was imperious and dismissive to everyone. He also got major diva attitude from Mira Sorvino, back when she was dating Tarantino.

Saw Melissa Joan Hart profanely bitching out her husband at a departure lounge at LAX, Mandy Patinkin being a general dick to everyone who got within 20 feet before the Emmy ceremony, and Helen Hunt staring ice-daggers at patrons in a theater lobby.

On the other hand, we’ve had wonderful encounters with P!nk, Laura Linney, Eric McCormack, Judith Light, Curtis Stone, Cat Deeley, Rachel Hunter, Michael York, Dwayne Johnson, Helen Mirren, Greg Louganis, and Tom Hanks. All genuinely nice people with great manners and a good sense of humor.

My production accountant friend said that Sandra Bullock is universally beloved and will cook for the entire crew on location, and my wardrobe manager friend (soaps, mostly) said that Eileen Davidson is the loveliest person she’s ever met.

If I were a celebrity I have no doubt I’d be considered aloof. I don’t like making small talk now; why would I turn into Mother Fucking Teresa if I were to become famous?

I don't know if it's still the case but Kiefer had a couple of handlers come with him whenever he would go out to party or drink. They would normally stand at some distance from the bar and monitor he situation. When they would sense that Kiefer is about to turn belligerent, they'd shoo other patrons away from him, settle the bill (plus throw in a little bit extra for the inconvenience) and then suggest to him that they leave.

Jagger's charm - when he wants to turn it on - is legendary.

"I was near tears."

MARY!

I once helped Barbara Eden in a bookstore, and when she came up I said (despite myself), "BARBARA EDEN!" and gave her a smile and she gave me a big smile right back and said, "I am!" But after I called out her name to her I collected myself, and I did not fuss over her (or mention "I Dream of Jeannie"), and I just talked to her about what she wanted to find, like I would have done to any other customer. She seemed to appreciate that greatly, and gave me a very warm thanks after I had helped her.

Joan must be like a chameleon. Too bad it doesn't show in her acting. And she's still cheap.

I saw Ed Marinaro waiting for a cab in Las Vegas in 1998. He was still cute, and as a gay man, I was delighted to see him. Our eyes met, and he dropped his head shaking no. The same thing happened at a silly cocktail party, when Tim Gunn & my eyes met. Same reaction. Both of these are really "regular" people, yet they set themselves above we regular people. I just wanted to meet both, without any agenda.

So you're striking out with the straights and gays, poor thing.

R234, if they were shaking their heads at you then you must have been embarrassingly unsubtle. Were you drooling? Licking your lips?

Oh I had a lovely encounter with Martin Freeman at a hotel in Calgary when he was shooting Fargo. I couldn’t believe it was him so I walked up and asked him to be sure and it was and then I stared at him because I hadn’t planned what else to say. After an awkward moment, he very kindly asked me about myself and what I was doing in Calgary. Maybe he felt comfortable because he’s a shorty like me!

Natalie Merchant in her Maniacs days was less than pleasant.

[quote]My production accountant friend said that Sandra Bullock is universally beloved and will cook for the entire crew on location,

She needs to bring her sister along to bake!

I once told Julia Roberts that I loved her in the movie Ghost and asked how what it was like working with Patrick Swayze.

Lucille "You Call THIS HOT?" Ball

r206, did that happen in the late 90s? I worked at a local news station back then and we had Karen Black on one morning to promote some movie she was premiering at a local film festival (probably SXSW but it could have been for something else.) I think it was a short film she had written or maybe even directed. Anyway, she was nice but a complete loon. She must have thought she was on for an entire show, not just a single segment, and was shocked and a bit confused when the host had to wrap up the interview and she'd barely talked about her movie. She could very easily have still been drunk from the previous night at the Driskill! I wanted to meet her but her people hurried her out of the studio and we had to reset for the next segment so I wasn't able to.

I’ve heard Howard Stern is very nice off broadcast so I’m surprised to hear he’s not nice.

[quote]My partner and I were in the bar at the Driskill Hotel in Austin, TX, watching this singer

FIFY.

R241, Yes, it was late 90s.

R154, I don’t think Selleck would have played a gay man in “In and Out,” including a kiss with Kevin Kline, if he were homophobic.

After graduation from college, three of my friends and I went on a backpack tour of a few European countries. Arriving in Prague, after a long stupid day, we ditched our bags and looked for the closest pub. We got a table, food, and settled in. A tall engaging man walks up to our table and said he heard us talking, and asked where we were from in a thick, sexy, lovely Irish brogue. It’s was Liam Neeson. He joined us (and got blutered) for the evening-until late. He was filming Les Mis. Had a fantastic fucking night, really nice person, and funny as hell.

R138, regarding Kate of the B-52s: my hairdresser friend did the hair for the 2 women in the group before a concert they gave at Humphrey's By the Bay in San Diego. About 10 or so years ago. He told me later that Kate was a nervous, uptight diva or "queen bee" as he described her, and she kept to him, "Don't look at me." Finally in exasperation he said, "Honey, how can I do your hair without looking at you?" Then she shut up. By contrast, the other one, Cindy, was easygoing, laid back, blasé and a bit tipsy.

Streisand isn’t the nicest person. And I should know!

I went to the same small hole in the wall dry cleaners as Kiefer Sutherland in Los Feliz. Ran into him a couple of times. He was always picking up a couple of suits and ties. I would usually just smile and say "Hi."

John Stamos tweeked my nipple through a dress shirt once. I was wearing a dress shirt with a breast pocket and had tucked a couple of dollars in the pocket. He tweeked my nipple and said something like "I was going to lift your money but thought a tweek would be more fun" or something stupid like that.

R210, someone on DL a few years ago told a story about meeting Mick Jagger in a bookstore and thought he came off as a lonely guy.

Jane Hudson spit in my drink once. I was very angry.

Back in the eighties, I was on a road trip to Cape Cod, and we stopped off at a D'Angelo's sub shop for lunch. I went into the restroom with a friend, but upon entering the restroom we realized it was only meant for one person at a time, with just the one stall, and it was occupied... the person using the restroom hadn't locked the door. My friend and I started laughing hysterically at the situation, but exited the restroom and politely waited outside. Finally about five minutes later, out waddles Nedra Volz, of Different Strokes fame, shooting us a look of death. We were still giggling, and she hissed "You ought to be ashamed of yourself, disrespecting a person's privacy." We apologized and explained the door was unlocked, but she rudely shuffled off. As she left, my friend yelled out "What's Gary Coleman really like?"

Don't have first hand knowledge but I've heard Bobby Flay is a lot like Trump.

I once saw Charlize Theron at a burger place in the early 2000's. Very standoffish but very beautiful in person. She was eating fries and dipping them in mustard.

I forgot to mention that she is very tall and has skinny legs.

[quote]I’ve heard Howard Stern is very nice off broadcast so I’m surprised to hear he’s not nice.

Yeah...he is. In fact, you NEVER hear the opposite. I call bullshit.

Elaine Paige. Used to work as a waiter at a 5 star hotel in London for about 6 months in 2002 and one day Elaine and her friends come in. Me and a waitress there were training a young 18/19 year old guy who had started a few days before. The place is constantly loud and busy and this young guy is called to serve and gives Elaine and her friends the wrong starters. I look over and he looks at me in panic so I get over there and Elaine is angry. I explain he is new and sometimes these things happen and she asks to speak to the manager. Manager comes out and she says surely when someone of her stature is here the staff should be told and prepared in advance. She then says the ultimate line "Do you know who I am?" The 18 year old straight kid in 2002 of course says No. She laughs but clearly annoyed then asks where he is from, as if he must be foreign to not know her and he says London. She then asks the manager if the kid was joking. Truly deluded and entitled. Poor guy thought he'd be fired but our manager told him after she left that's it's ok and "EP can be prickly".

[quote] Manager comes out and she says surely when someone of her stature is here the staff should be told and prepared in advance. She then says the ultimate line "Do you know who I am?" The 18 year old straight kid in 2002 of course says No.

Bullshit story

r259 = Elaine Paige

R259 totally true . She was a miserable cow. I remember when Susan Boyle said on her audition she wanted to be like Elaine Paige and the audience laughed. Elaine would have been livid but what did she expect. Her day is long gone.

R61 i can confirm everything you said about Cilla Black was absolutely true

[quote]It’s was Liam Neeson. He joined us (and got blutered) for the evening-until late. He was filming Les Mis.

Liam Nelson was not in “Les Miz”.

“Neeson”

He was in the 1998 version of Les Misérables.

I don't know R1 but I don't like him already.

Ah, so he was. Sorry, carry on.

My friend said (and I believed him) that Frank Langella picked him up in the steamroom at a gym and they went back to Frank's place. Frank gave him a pair of flannel pj's and slipped into a pair himself and they cuddled.

"James Spader, in a antique store, we both looking at watches and i said hi and he gave me the look of death.

ide have knocked him out if i had brass knuckles."

Years ago I attended the Nutcracker at the NYC Ballet at Lincoln Center; James Spader was carrying his son and was escorted to his seat by a happy young male usher. It was a benefit and it was a very happy pe-Christmas atmosphere. Anyway, the usher gushed and said something like "Hi, I really like your work" Spader gave him the most withering look.

oops, "pre-Christmas" atmosphere

I am usually alarmed when I receive unexpected attention. I can't imagine I'd act much differently than Spader. But it might not be a "withering" look so much as a "Whaaaaat???" expression. Like him, I have PRBF. You might not like what you see, but you also might not recognize what you see.

I can't believe that Elaine Paige would be talking about herself as a person of stature.

As other people have said if they were rude to crew members, waiters and other service people that is ridiculous. Don't lord over the little guys, nothing is grosser to me.

But when "fans" bamboozle these people as the are trying to go about their life demanding pictures and autographs no matter what they are doing, saying no isn't being rude. I don't blame fans for trying, but if they can't right then that is okay.

This isn't an asshole story but one time I met David Spade in a bar. He was nice, I had a fun little shoot the shit with him. I just treated him like a normal person and didn't go all loony fan on him. I definitely didn't ask for a picture or him to sign some shit.

R268, was this1970s "Dracula" Frank Langella, when he still had his hair, or 1990s+ bald Frank Langella?

Billy Joel gave a graduation speech at Syracuse University and acted very above it all. He told the kids he didn’t even graduate from hs and he was famous and that he bought his honorary degrees. He was nice to some local kids who sang though. Overall, very unimpressive.

Have a similar story R246 on upper west side with Liam Neeson. He’s really a nice man.

Elaine Page. Wtf? She should be happy if ANYONE even looks at her.

Number of days I have been aware of the existence of Elaine Page: 1.

[Quote] Kris Jenner (bitch on wheels)

How bad is she?

Extra work on L&O SVU. Had my back to the camera and found out that I was standing too close to Chris Meloni's pathway as he elbowed me in the back as he passed by.

By far the worst encounter I ever had was with Kevin Bacon and his Kyra Sedgwick thingy. Both came into the restaurant I was waitering in; they didn't like the table they were given; they preferred one that had been reserved by a frequent customer but they whined so much we had to give it to them. They both sent back their food. They both spent their entire dinner checking out to see if other people were checking them out. They left a paltry tip. Oh, and Kevin wore his sunglasses all through dinner. At night. In a dark restaurant. When they left, the waitstaff cheered. Their departure.

r253, if I had a dog handy, I would have beaten it.

[R218] Thanks for the Zelda info! I forgot about "The Other Side"/Poltergeist connection - funny!!!! Nice to know it wasn't just me......

[quote]Like him, I have PRBF.

I know what "RBF" means, R271, but what's with the P?

Permanent, R284.

Thanks!

r218, maybe she shot daggers at you because she wasn't Zelda, and wasn't happy being mistaken for a helium voiced dwarf? I'm imagining you as Damian in Mean Girls going "Danny Devito, I love your workkkkkkk!!!!!".

[quote]Extra work on L&O SVU. Had my back to the camera and found out that I was standing too close to Chris Meloni's pathway as he elbowed me in the back as he passed by.

You had ONE thing to do: NOT GET IN THE FUCKING WAY.

This isn't really an "asshole" anecdote but one of those strange, awkward encounters - I was reminded of it by the story upthread about the Different Strokes lady. It was the late '90's in Silverlake (L.A.). I was at a very popular breakfast place on Rowena (since closed) called The Coffee Table. I needed to use the restroom, which was very public (space was kind of tight there) and opened right up to the dining room. So I open the unlocked door and there sitting on the toilet with his pants around his legs was David Hyde Pierce of FRASIER fame. I had seen him around the neighborhood several times. Not particularly friendly. He was understandably horrified, leaped up from the can and slammed the door in my face. And I mean SLAMMED! I was mortified and felt protective of him, but boy was it ever awkward!

[R287] LOL - trust me - it was THE Zelda Rubenstein. In the flesh. All 4"3' of her.

OMG r289, that sounds like something out of a Frasier episode.

To the Nedra Volz poster, was it number 1 or number 2?

The whole thing is odd. I started out as a child actor (I was not famous at all, but worked steadily for about 10 years, mostly commercials, some television and soaps). I transitioned into working behind the camera as a director. When I was little, I always dreamed of being famous, but just being around it so much, I came to find it just distasteful and by the time I was in my mid-20s, I was very happy I had decided to leave acting behind.

That being said, I am always grateful any time someone comes up to me to express their enjoyment of something I've done. (It doesn't happen often, usually only at festival or special screenings where we're all present, and I will always stay until the last person has gotten to speak to me, even if it means standing in the street because we've been moved out of the venue.) I've only been recognized out of that scenario a few times, and it has always unnerved me, but probably because I'm not used to it like an actual famous person would be.

One time I was out with a couple of friends for my birthday at a restaurant and I saw out of the corner of my eye a man approaching our table. (We were in the corner.) As he got closer, and it became abundantly clear he was not only heading for us, but that his expression was that he was coming for me, I don't know why but my first thought was- I'm being served with a summons. Totally ridiculous. He gets to our table, says, "Excuse me, are you xyz, and I very reluctantly said yes. And he breaks into a smile and says, oh, I'm a big fan of your work, my wife and I loved ... and we watch it all the time, etc. etc. And he was perfectly kind and didn't stay too long, asked what I was working on at the moment, etc. I did ask him how he recognized me, and he said that they had come to see me give a talk. And then he left. I turned to my friends and they both started laughing, which made me think they had put him up to it as a joke, so I called them on it, and they said of course not, the reason they were laughing was because through the entire encounter (even though I was nice), I looked like I wanted to crawl under the table, I was so mortified. And I thought about it and said- yeah, I think I was. Really uncomfortable.

The other times were waiting in line for a movie at Cinefamily or The New Beverly in Los Angeles, but you get a lot of cinephiles in those lines and they know who everyone is, and they were all nice and it wasn't as jarring to be approached (and again, it rarely happens), but still weird because you're somewhere where you think you're anonymous and to realize that you're being observed is unsettling at best.

I will say the one time I got freaked out was getting a package at my home address. I opened it and there was this 20 some page letter from a guy who was obsessed with the subject of a film I'd done and wanted me to help him work on I don't know, I guess a sequel of sorts, and the writing was just nuts and there were all these photos and just weird shit in the package. And the writing was clearly by someone with serious mental or emotional issues. The worst part was that there was no postage on the package, so it clearly had been hand delivered. And it really made me mental that someone I didn't know who knew me also knew where I lived and had shown up to my home looking for me.

So I cannot imagine the balls of steel it must take to actually be famous and deal with that on a daily basis.

I've worked behind the scenes as an assistant for ages. If there's one thing I've learned is that actors and directors are very fragile and insecure people looking for constant validation. Add this to money and power and you end up with a ticking bomb ready to explode.

I've asked a very famous AAA lister actor who I know is ate least bi what it felt like to be the most handsome man in the world. He stammered and was ready to cry and just changed subject. I was 19 when this happened and I still think there's a live hate relationship with fame. This star was also very self conscious about his butt which was kinda flat.

R144 Dunham's friends including Zosia Mamet are total cunts, and famewhores who have zero talent. Zosia Mamet's husband Evan Jonigkeit is as well. Jonigkeit is not bad in minor parts in plays/musicals on stage, but he's not that good for film or TV parts and he owes his entire film and TV career to nepotism. Also, it was hilarious how he and his people/PR tried to claim he was 3 years younger than he is.

R294, Who is the actor? You're probably NOT the only one who knows he's Bi!

r295, Evan has DSL and BJE. And those eyes.

Boyfriend of 15 years ago rents a limo and takes me for dinner at the Hotel Bel Air restaurant for a fun night out. As I'm not normally around limos and chauffeurs I asked the valet to take a pic of me, my boyfriend, the chauffer and limo and we were taking a few fun shots for about 30 seconds. Didn't notice if we were holding up the valet line, happen to turn around and see Miss Dolly Parton standing there tapping her foot like 'move it along fellas.' She took this mini inconvenience in stride and I was shocked to see how short and tiny she was.

Frank L is a bottom, and likes playacting. He pretended to be a 13 yr old girl virgin. He batted his eyes at me, and asked me not to hurt him. I miss him, always interesting

R294 who is the actor? Can you at least drop some hints?

R271 RBF? R297 DSL?, BJE?

R297 he looks like he's used a lot of drugs and has not aged well at all. If he is your type that's cool but he's not attractive to me. I wonder if he's bisexual or gay? Or just heterosexual and a tease?

PRBF = Permanent Resting Bitch Face

DSL = Dick Sucking Lips

BJE = Blow Job Ears

hes not my type as he is now, but he is so interesting to me, and has great gossip about Hollywood and NY.Hes most definitely Bi. Besides it was a business relationship, not a date

Who, r304? Shall we simply assume Timotay?

Where else on the Internet can one get stories about Nedra Volz, much less involving a public toilet?

It's too bad they're both dead. Nedra Volz and Zelda Rubenstein teamed up together could work in a myriad of remakes, from Thelma and Louise to Tango & Cash.

Both Cilla B and Joan C are prime examples of people who are as common as muck and then develop the most appalling affectations. Cilla, who sang with all the emotional nuance of a bagpipe, actually used to refer to other people as common!

R304, care to share some of the great gossip?

R278 Number of MINUTES I have been aware of the existence of Elaine Page: 4.

[quote]I can't believe that Elaine Paige would be talking about herself as a person of stature.

I was reading about her recently on another blog (I somehow keep running into Elaine Paige) and someone who worked with her backstage in the West End said she was so awful they nicknamed her The Poison Dwarf.

Elaine Paige is a BIG name in English Musical Theater, so she isn't completely crazy. Just a bit sad.

[quote]Extra work on L&O SVU. Had my back to the camera and found out that I was standing too close to Chris Meloni's pathway as he elbowed me in the back as he passed by.

Some of us would have PAID to be touched by Meloni!

Who the hell is Elaine Paige?

R314 I didn't know who she was either. She'll be 70 in March.

[R315] I know her from the original CHESS (Benny Anderson, Bjorn Ulvaeus, Tim Rice) cast recording. She has an amazing voice but her delivery is so strident it's often a turn-off.

Is the the Barbara Cook of England?

Is that her at r315? I can honestly say I’ve never clapped eyes on her before in my life.

Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick were pretty nice when I met them at the Farmers' Market. They came over to share our table and eat. We made small talk and they were pleasant enough to agree to a picture.

I'm still chortling at the thought of walking in on Nedra Volz as she's dropping a grumpy in a public toilet.

Too bad you didn't call after her, "Phew! Light a match next time, Nedra!"

No, r317. But she is almost the Helen Lawson of England.

Denis Leary

R234 I have an Ed Marinara item. Back in the 90's, I lived in Orlando and was at the age where I went out almost every night. A few times each month, I'd meet up with some old friends who worked at DisneyWorld. They had all sorts of jobs, from running the parking area, to guest relations, restaurant managers, and even a few kids who dressed as "characters" in the park.

The guest relations people always had the most interesting experiences. One of the girls in the group had taken Ed Marinara around the park for a few days. I'm not sure if he was there with family or not, but my friend took him out to the sports bar that we visited frequently after the tour day was done. It was a loud, rowdy spot with good food, and I think Ed had a good time. My friend sucked face with him right there at the table. Life sure was different without cell phone cameras, that's for sure.

He seemed ancient to me back then and the situation was rather scandalous at the time. I think Ed might have been married, but there was no internet so it was hard to do any digging for info about him. Such a primitive time.

Couldn't you tell with Denis Leary? I mean, he spells his name to rhyme with "penis." How could he not be a dick?

[quote] I have an Ed Marinara item.

MarinarO. He's not a pasta sauce.

Where's the asshole in that story, R323?

Which celebrities do suffer fools?

So, from now on, any time any of us here has a bad encounter with a celebrity, let's say to the celebrity, "This is going on Datalounge!"

R300, Paul Newman

Meryl Streep's son. Not an asshole but you'd be hard pressed to find one functioning brain cell in him. He's a complete idiot.

I had a friend who was asked to interview Denis Leary. Bearing in mind Denis had agreed to the interview and it was to promote something he was in. He was awful to my friend, rude, dismissive, argumentative, just generally mean for no real reason my friend could work out. And he was awful from the outset. It wasn’t like my friend fucked up the interview and Denis turned nasty. Denis walked in with an attitude.

My friend just wrote the article on what an asshole he was and didn’t bother mentioning the show or movie or whatever he was promoting. He said he’s the nastiest celebrity he’s ever encountered. Although to be fair my friend moved into real journalism and hasn’t had to suffer througha celebrity interview in at least a decade, much to his relief.

R294 is RDJ's ass flat?

Any encounters with him beyond the iron man persona?

1971 Ed Marinaro. Hell Yeah!

I suppose there are many variables: event, circumstances, the day’s events, etc.

It’s hard to be sweet all the time.

[quote] She was eating fries and dipping them in mustard.

The fiend!

To be fair, Nedra Volz might have been using the stall to do #1 rather than to do... "stinkers."

After all, women use stalls for both.

R328, I doubt anyone would care. IRL Datalounge has a reputation for being a cesspool of negativity and fiction.

Timothy Hutton is not a nice person, that is what a craft service person told me.

Carol Burnett is generally a nice person but one day someone crossed the line and even then she was nice about it.

She said that she was taking a pee in a public washroom when a little girl climbed under the front of the stall with a pen and a piece of paper and asked for her autograph while Carol was sitting on the toilet.

Carol told that she would be out shortly and to wait until then.

R7 Yes I know the producer's name I just don't want to say. I was a page as well at cbs after my internship was over I moved to LA when I graduated college. That same producer got me the job when I went to visit everyone at the office. She asked me if I had a job, made a call, I was a page. I work in Public Relations now have since I left my page job.

I would have yelled out to Nedra- Goddamn, bitch. By the sound of that splash, I thought you were Mary Jo Catlett!

To R338. Back in the 80's when Timothy Hutton was with Debra Winger, they lived on W81st St in NYC. A good friend of mine also lived on the same block. She would tell me all the time about the knock down screaming fights that Hutton and Winger would have out in the middle of the street almost nightly. Crazy!

It would've been more fun to find Nedra Volz scissoring with Judith Lowry in that restroom.

Martha Stewart. I went to a book signing for one of her books. I said, "Hello Martha, it's nice to meet you." She didn't look up or say a word to me... just signed the book and pushed it aside. She lived up to her icy cold reputation.

That's good then. She didn't disappoint.

Why would you address her as "Martha" rather than as "Ms. Stewart"? You had never met her before. I would have cold-shouldered you too.

She’s just a celebrity r346, not anyone important. Too many people confuse the two things.

[quote] I interacted with Mark Feuerstein at Princeton, and that he was once a complete dick to me--he made fun of a baseball cap I was wearing to a friend right in front of me.

Anyone who's got a huge, disgusting schnozz like Mark Feuerstein has ZERO business mocking someone else's appearance.

Elana Paga (as Ms Paige is known in the biz here in the UK) is vile and venal, though not necessarily in that order. When she was Anna in THE KING & I some years ago, apparently she scared the little oriental kids half to death. The only plus-side was that she's so tiny that they and she were about the same height. Getting to know you, indeed!

r335, I love mustard and put a ton of it on burgers and dip my fries in it. What does that say about me?

R 255, 335 and 350, maybe it is a South African thing. I have a friend from SA who puts fries on her burger and she also dips her fries in mustard. Oh, and she calls fries 'chips'

Is dipping fries in mustard weird in the US?

I've never heard of someone dipping their fries in mustard in the U.S. Most people use ketchup. I've heard the Dutch like mayonnaise.

Bea Arthur shit in my dressing room.

Helen Lawson, she's the reason I started sniffing glue.

Met Joyce Bulifant once while waiting in a movie line. She asked me to hold her purse while she went to find a restroom. Well, after awhile I noticed a strange smell emanating from La Bulifant's purse......and.......well......you know the rest of the story.

Winger was a total loon back in the 80's, so the idea that she and Hutton would have those fights is easy to believe. I trust she's mellowed at least a bit. She's been married to Arliss Howard since 1996, so he must know how to deal with her (BTW, I saw him at my NYSC location on the UWS, and he was lead and muscular).

Elaine Page is one of those bitter divas who thinks she should have the kind of career Streisand had. And she's certainly no Barbara Cook in the vocals department.

I have been told from family in Westport that all of Westport, CT knew Ms. Martha was a b--ch long before any tell-all book or movie.

Elaine Paige is a jumped-up belter. If only the far prettier Stephanie Lawrence, who should have usurped Paige’s position as the queen of the West End, hadn’t taken to the bottle and died prematurely.

"jumped-up"? Is that like "jacked"/

Good "jacked" or bad "jacked"?

Jumped-up as in haughty, with self-important delusions

I once sat next to Timothy Hutton on a NY-LA flight.

He had the worst body odor imaginable. He was also extremely unpleasant. The attendants at first were kind of star-struck, but by the end of the flight they asked me how I managed to sit next to such an asshole for so long.

I once saw Dr. Ruth Westheimer, with a young student, walking in Princeton. I heard her voice, and recognized her (no mistaking it), even before seeing her. I walked past her, turned around and briefly looked at her, saying.. hello (can't believe I did that). She replied, "Nice day today.". I said, "yes it is.. it's very nice to meet you.", then proceeded to move on. It wasn't an exciting encounter, but she was nice and responded to me. At least, she wasn't rude.

I eat mustard on my fries and burgers. I think ketchup is fucking disgusting and I refuse to eat it.

Oh yeah. Well... we don't think much of you either R365.

Haha

That model with a mole. Circa 1996, Century City Shopping Center. Brentanos. Book signing. So unpleasant. She didn’t want to be there and let us all know it. What a bitch was muttered by many.

Same venue. Janet Leigh. Old and frail but what a hoot. So much fun. Her book signing was like a party in her living room. Classy broad. She made us all feel like we were her best friend. Plenty of fun stories. No question was off limits.

The first time I saw mustard on fries was in France. How fun and interesting!

R338 and R342 Debra Winger was banging the then young-ish governor of Nebraska Bob Kerry in the early 1980s while filming "Terms of Endearment." I think their relationship lasted well over a year. She would stay at the Governor's Mansion. I seem to recall she fell and broke her foot and had to go the emergency room in the middle of the night and was a bit of a scandal.

No horror stories, but Ryan Adams, Laurie Metcalf and Aimee Mann could not have been nicer. Lindsey Buckingham was great as well.

R370 While filming in the town and being with the governor the citizens of the town referred to Debra Winger as LC - Low Class. They did not like her and her attitude.

Debra Winger looks like she has a smelly sweaty face

Yes who are you writing about R304?

I can't get over people like Cindy Crawford and Martha Stewart being bitches at book signings. What's the point of going to a promotional event if you're not going to put on your fake face?

I have sympathy for all the stars we've been bagging this thread.

I am moody so they have the right to be moody too. And all these publicity tours must be unbearably tedious (poor Armie and his French boy spent three weeks making a little French movie and were then contractually obliged to spend three months travelling the world publicising the little thing).

Well then don’t become a movie star r376. Press junkets are part of their job. And their fans made them rich. I’d love to turn up to a business meeting and be rude to my overbearing clients because I can’t be bothered with small talk and they annoy me, but they’re the reason I get paid so I’m professional and polite. That’s what the rest of the world does, so celebrities can too. Let’s face it, if they weren’t movie stars most of them would be cleaners and janitors, so they should be grateful to every single person who ever bought a movie ticket.

When they set out to become famous they knew what they were signing up for. It's not like it was a surprise or unexpected. It's part of the deal, built into the concept of fame. They chose it. They should have some mechanism for dealing with the attention. They should realize that people do talk and it will end up on Datalounge and other sites. Goldie Hawn once remarked that stars should be kissing the ground, not be grumbling rude or mean. Those are not star qualities.

[quote] And their fans made them rich. I’d love to turn up to a business meeting and be rude to my overbearing clients because I can’t be bothered with small talk and they annoy me, but they’re the reason I get paid so I’m professional and polite.

Studio execs, producers and directors are reason they get hired and paid. Not random joe off the street. All these "assholes to fans" still do fine careerwise.

So l was walking west with a friend on 17th Street in Manhattan and Sigourney Weaver and two men were standing outside of a restaurant taking up the whole sidewalk. My friend and l walked up to them, stopped, they didn't acknowledge us nor did they move. Finally, l rather aggressively said excuse me and Weaver glared at me, moved and we swept by. My friend whispered, That was Sigourney Weaver. I said, Yeah. And the bitch needs to stay off the sidewalk.

Then, there was the evening l was having supper with friends at Babbo and l had been outside to smoke. l was on my way back to the table and Charlie Rose was in front of me. Babbo is small and crowded and Rose stopped, took a step back and trod on my foot. He wheeled around and looked at me as though l had been at fault. Needless to say, l was thrilled when he went down in flames last year.

Didn't you KNOW WHO I AM?

R379 and those people will only hire an actor if they think the public will support a movie they’re in. Look at Spacey, everyone in the industry knew what he was like, but the public didn’t. The minute the public turned on him he was fired.

However many celebrities are rude to their sad sack fans for years and get away with it. However they should be grateful that marge from Idaho has seen every piece of dreck they star in. Without her the “star” would still be serving frappes at Starbucks. They should be nice not for their career but because it’s the decent thing to do.

With book signings, people stand in a long lines.. for a long time, waiting to meet the person/celebrity. It's a planned event and celebrities know what they're in for. It's part of the job and promotion. People put money out for their books. If they can't at least say "hello and thank you" and fake a smile, make eye contact, then they don't deserve to be in that position. In the case of Martha, it was a let down and I felt bad. I guess I can understand if someone random went up to a celebrity, while eating or having private time, and became annoyed.

Nedra dear -- did you notice any corn?

I'll play. I have a lot of celeb encounters but one of my faves was this. I live in SF and my then-boyfriend and I were walking our bikes through North Beach. I spied a pair of killer shoes half a block away and was staring at them so much that I didn't realize I'd kind of walked right into them... when I looked up, Ellen Barkin was grinning at me. She was with her kids and ex, Gabriel Byrne, WHO I ADORE but who is quite short and looked pretty glum. I apologized, we extracted our bikes from their little group and I think I said, "I love your shoes." At least I hope I did. They really were cool. This was a long time ago so please don't ask me to describe them. The woman's got taste though.

yes, gabriel byrne is tiny. i've seen him many times in the west village.

All celebrities are tiny. It's required.

"Look at Spacey, everyone in the industry knew what he was like, but the public didn’t. The minute the public turned on him he was fired."

Bullshit. The public didn't have TIME to turn on Spacey before he was fired. That was the knee jerk reaction to some bullshit movement, trying to curry favor with the bigmouths and look progressive. I would wager, based on the posts I see here and elsewhere, that if we put it to a public vote, Spacey would still be on "House of Cards" and it would have ended its final season just fine, down a few activists maybe but the general public doesn't give a shit about this stuff.

Watch. Now, more than ever, with loony tunes like Rose and that bitch bashing Aziz and Franco the victim of a disgruntled ex, I would bet major money that both Spacey and Harvey will be back -- a sincere apology tour, an indie hit for Spacey, a behind the scenes victory for Harvey, whatever. They might not be at their peak (most have one) but I truly think people are starting to think "Fuck you" to this whole McCarthy bullshit. And they will at least be willing, even eager to forgive this shit and move on. Wait and see.

So, who has computer access at that Arizona "rehab", Harvey or Spacey? Which one is R388?

[R387] Not Sigourney Weaver and Charlie Rose. They're both huge.

That same tired joke, cunt.

Nope, not Harvey nor Spacey, though a big fan of both -- Spacey for some great performances, Harvey for giving me great movies to watch the last three decades or I would've been stuck with comic book bullshit all around me. I'm just a guy in the industry with a little bit of sense -- and I have seen these things before way too many times. Easy to forgive, especially if we doubt stories more and more. They will be back and I hope they tell at least a few fairweather friends to shove it up their asses.

[quote] Harvey for giving me great movies to watch the last three decades

I should've known that someone with bad, middlebrow taste in movies would also defend the Rapey Bear. I also have friends in industry (not set caterers, like yourself, I presume?) who had told me stories about those two scumbags for years.

My one encounter with Elaine Paige. She was in the building where I worked. I see her enter the lift at the end of the corridor but I continue on with my trip to the loo. I finish my business and then head to the same lift. It opens and she’s just standing there. I said “you have to push the buttons to go anywhere” and she just died laughing. She said “I thought I was on a really slow elevator!” We laughed and joked the rest of the ride down and she thanked me for helping her once we reached the lobby.

R392's gotta be that same cunt that posts on every thread about Spacey and Harvey. Trust me, motherfucker, I'll put my film resume up against anyone's, including your "industry friends" with all their obvious stories. And don't insult Craft Services either, you fucking snob.

The rumor has always been that Kate of the B-52s is a lesbian. Not sure if she ever came out. I've always liked their music but never really followed their personal life sagas.

Being closeted during most of their careers could explain why so many of these celebs have mental issues and are so bitter, they refuse to come out. Kate was supposedly living a gay life while living in Newcastle, England. Cindy's late brother, Ricky, who was in the B-52s, was out.

[quote] Trust me, motherfucker, I'll put my film resume up against anyone's, including your "industry friends" with all their obvious stories.

Please post it. I could use a good laugh today.

Oh, it's Bryan Singer! Shouldn't you be on a plane to a country with a non-extradition clause and a lot of underage tail, like Brazil?

I sat next to Marisa Tomei on a flight from NY to LA once. She boarded the plane before anyone else, and had a special "handler" from the airline there to help her get situated.

I was only kinda half sure it was her at first (it became clear soon after,) and I made the kind of small talk that I would make with anyone I was sitting next to. "You headed home, or are you off for a visit" She had sunglasses on, and in the smallest, vocal fry voice she said "hommme." It was obvious she wasn't into talking. I obliged her. We didn't say another word to each other for five hours.

When he landed, she asked me to grab her carry-on from the overhead bin for her. I did.

That one I totally understood. She wasn't in the mood to be Marissa Tomei for five hours. Even though I honestly wouldn't have bugged her.

I worked with this girl from New Jersey. She was pretty for a girl from New Jersey. I would call her a Jersey 7, which I think would be an LA 5.

Anyway, she sat next to Jerry O'Connell on flight from Vegas to LA. He was flirty. The next night, he took her to private room karaoke. According to the girl, that was it.

A few months later, O'Connell was on Conan talking about how when he wants to get laid, he takes a girl to... PRIVATE ROOM KARAOKE! I bust a gut. She denies she gave it up, but I'm dubious.

I sat next to Barbara Walters on a flight from Nice to New York. She was great, busy reading but spoke every so often. turns out she was friends with my friend's Dad which only came up when she mentioned a charity she had to speak at. She smelled great and still had sex appeal. Very classy, and had no problem pronouncing the letter "R". A rep came on and walked her off the plane. She said good bye and said I'l tell so and so how nice his children's friends are. Saw her again about a year later and she could not have been nicer.

R394 just because you once did a tour of universal studios doesn’t mean you’re “in the industry”.

There are stars/celebrities who are wonderful to fans and nightmares to work with or deal with. Any fan who has met them will swear they're sweethearts, because fans can't bear to believe a celebrity or star would put on a front for them. There are also stars who can't bear fans but are ok to work with and deal with.

I think Kate Pierson is married to a woman. My ex was a huge B-52s fan and we went to see them play in Athens, Ga. years ago and they all came to this gay club in town to meet and mingle with fans. It was dark out and I snapped a picture of Kate too soon. She yelled at me for blinding her with flash before she was ready.

That would probably be me r402, genuinely nice to the crew since they’re my coworkers, but secretly annoyed by the fans. I’d still be nice though, even if I was secretly wishing they’d leave me alone.

Liev Shreiber gets a ton of hate, but he could not have been more thoughtful and kind in my interactions with him. No dirt. A real gentleman (and smart as fuck).

Betty Buckley has her reputation for exactly the reasons you suspect. Batshit.

Brian Wilson? A nutjob and just plain mean. Brooke Shields? Desperately diva-ish and sad.

DL Icon Raul Esparza is one of the nicest celebs of all time, btw. Ditto Jonathan Groff, John Benjamin Hickey and Darren Criss (if mentioning DL Theatre Icons).

^ Liev Schreiber.

Also, add Scarlett Johansson to the surprisingly thoughtful and smart list. Woody didn't just love her for her looks.

Speaking of Woody... Woody Harrelson? Exactly what you would expect. Genuine and generous. It's not an act... and he's a fucking great actor, too.

Patti LuPone? The best. You'd never know she was one of the greatest theatre stars ever. All about the art. Fascinating in discussing basically anything. A diva, but a queen, too. Phenomenal.

[quote] Nope, not Harvey nor Spacey, though a big fan of both -

OMG, you have the worst taste in the world.

Your Sigourney/sidewalk story reminded me of an encounter I had when I was in college. I was working taking tickets at a Broadway house and it was opening night for some flop play, but of course, because it was opening night, they had a bunch of stars and VIPs there. The curtain also went up early, but it really never goes on time. And no one wants to be the first in the house, so they all mill on street and in the lobby, having their photos taken, talking and being seen. It' a nightmare because you have to herd them all in like cattle in the last 10 minutes when they're all desperate to get inside and have a pee.

So the house manager keeps asking me to call people in and I'm doing just that, dressed in a tux, and no one can get through the door because Beverly Sills and another woman were standing right in front of it, planted really, gabbing away. I asked them politely several times to please move to the side so that people could actually get into the house and they acted as though I wasn't even there, totally dismissive. After the fifth time of asking (and currying dirty looks from both), and the house manager yelling at me, I finally went up to them and very nastily and loudly told them to move it or there was going to be no show. That got them out of the way and I got most of the house in. About 10 minutes later, the chairman of the Shubert Organization (and my big boss) walked up to me and very angrily said- My wife told me you were very rude to her. (That answered the question of who was with Sills). I turned to him and said politely, but very firmly- Your wife and another woman were blocking the entrance and refused to move after my asking them many times. I needed to get the patrons in and I had no choice since they were ignoring me. Didn't apologize, didn't back down, but I figured, oh well, I'm fired. He contemplated this for a few seconds, nodded, clapped me on the shoulder and said, "Carry on." My guess was this wasn't the first time his wife had been a pain in the ass. He was actually a good, fair man. I wound up working several jobs and climbing the ranks at the Shuberts before I left to begin my real career.

To sum up for those who hate to read- Beverly Sills...cunt.

r408: That's a shame about Bubbles Silverman. I was always a fan (never saw her in person). But well...she was in fact a diva in real life.

I would serve Beverly Sills once a month at Board Meeting- she was a total phony, always pulling this grand lady routine. What a bore.

Helen Keller. Ran into her once - actually she ran into me. Wouldn't look at me, didn't say anything, refused to listen to me. Bitch.

Shirley Jones was on a bus I was taking and she was bothering everyone, telling them how she won an Oscar and only would charge $5 if they wanted to touch it. I told her, that she won for being a WHORE, which means that the academy thought she WAS GOOD AT BEING A WHORE and that ain't no compliment.

Then she started telling everyone how she was on the Partridge Family and I explained how she was even less necessary to the success of that show than Tracey and then Shirley started crying and ran off the bus.

Reply 411... Did she at least say hello?

oops... I see she didn't.. my mistake. :)

*see*.. very early here.. sheesh

I see the post about Eric Braeden, but his tv wife Melody Thomas Scott was at Bennett's Ice Cream at the Farmers Market some years back and while she stuffed her face with a double dip cone I yelled out 'hey Nikki!' - she gave me a dirty look and turned her head quickly and moved away. What a bitch!

Met tons and tons of celebs. Really depends on their particular mood when you meet them and your own projections. That said:

Some of the Nicest: Howard Stern, Matt LeBlanc, Harrison Ford, Kelsey Grammar, Kathy Ireland, Kevin Bacon; Sandra Bullock.

Some of the biggest Assholes: Leonard Nimoy, Paul Sorvino, Seth MacFarlane, Jennifer Aniston;

R417 did you flip flop Aniston and Grammar?

Like you said, it's all projections from the "commoner" sighting them.

People who approach celebrities asking for autographs are the assholes IMO. Especially if they get all offended that a complete stranger didn’t drop everything to talk to them and sign autographs on command.

I agree that getting a celebrity autograph is weird r419. What do people do with it? Bore everyone that comes over with their collection. ‘And this here is Scott Baio’s signature, I got it in 1985 when he was still famous. And this is the autograph of a girl who played a waitress on Frasier, she was so nice’

Meanwhile actors behave like it’s a huge inconvenience until their star fades, then next thing you know they’re on Dancing With the Stars hoping to kick start their career and gagging for someone to ask for their autograph just like the good old days. I have no sympathy for celebrities.

More encounters please.

R419 R420 my next door neighbor for many years was an autograph collector. His collection eventually grew so large that it was featured in our local newspaper. IIRC, he wrote letters requesting autographs from US presidents and famous people worldwide, including Golda Meir. I wouldn't doubt he approached celebrities in person if he ran into any; he was a very loud, pushy man with no boundaries.

I think the whole idea of autographs is a holdover from much earlier times. Autograph books were common from times before my grandmother was young and still were when I was into my teens but they were primarily for friends, schoolmates, summer camp acquaintances, etc; celebrities, if at all, would have been in the vast minority for most people back then. Sentimentalism and the lack of easy communication resources between individuals and friends or family seemed to be one reason for it. An autograph was a remembrance from a close friend who moved far away, for example. There was a time (up until the 70s more or less) when people didn't squander money on the high long distance telephone fees. You either wrote letters, sent a telegram or traveled to visit in person - those were the options.

I know, the dark ages of yore.

[Quote] Some of the biggest Assholes: Leonard Nimoy

Disappointing to hear☹️

How was Leonard Nimoy an asshole? What did he do/say?

I, too, am disappointed in Leonard Nimoy. But I can understand how some actors who are primarily associated with just one role or character can, after a while, get really tired of that.

Kevin Bacon -- was a waiter at the All State Restaurant on 72nd off West End for years before he got famous. Even as a skinny little acne-faced waiter, he was a drip. Used to complain about his bad tips. Was rude to women. And bragged about how famous he was going to be.

Then he got to be famous. Which weirded everyone out. But he didn't change. Still an asshole.

r426 - Was this pre or post Animal House for Kevin? I thought he was pretty young in that movie to have been a waiter for years?

Hang on to that Scott Baio signature r420, it might be worth something if he goes to jail for sexual assault.

R428 made me laugh.

R331, I also work in entertainment journalism and have interviewed Leary a few times, mostly at network parties where there are a ton of people and actors WANT to be interviewed; they get weirded out if they're ignored.

I believe your story but all my encounters with Leary were positive.

Granted, many call 'entertainment journalism' an oxymoron. I get that. But in the movie The Post, Streep's character points out to Hanks' that he's schmoozing with the Kennedys on their boat and then writing about them. And that's covering something far more important than entertainment.

I give props to your friend for writing the truth and the pub for printing it.

But whether you're at a reputable outlet with big circulation or Fleemer's Market circular (or whatever Diane Chambers wrote for on Cheers) you have the choice whether or not to tell your readers the truth.

Again, good for your friend for printing the truth.

Back before she purchased a private jet Oprah was despised by flight crews. Very rude and temperamental. One black friend told me she asked Ms, Winfrey if she’d like another cocktail. Oprah looked up and snarled, “I’ll let you know when I want another.” My friend said, “I didn’t get near that uppity black woman the rest of the flight.” Other infamous customers: Faye Dunaway, Marlo Thomas and Lucille Ball who was banned from flying my carrier after slapping a flight attendant across the face. I’ve had several celebs over the years, only rude ones were Reggie Jackson, Brian Dennehy and Steve Allen who kept clubbing down his tomato juice and then throwing his arm with the empty glass into the aisle, his way of saying I’d like another. He hit me in the balls one time.

Whoops....that was supposed to be chugging not clubbing....sorry autocorrect

The War on Fingering.

Leonard Nimoy was a very nice man as long as you didn't mention star trek. He used to bring his maltese max into the pet clinic I worked at.

Bebe Neuwirth caught me looking at her on the street and gave me a 'don't even think about saying anything' look. And all the jazz......

Leonard Nimoy asked me to pose for one of his fat woman photos! And I’m male!

Peggy Lee was a total cunt.

That's her usual look, r435, isn't it?

Peggy Lee always looked constipated (see also: Sada Thompson); maybe that accounts for her bad attitude.

Jackie Hoffman. About 8 years ago, we saw her in the Addams Family on Broadway, in which she played Grandmama. She was fantastic. In the same way that she steals any scene she is in. After the show, we're waiting at the stage door for photos and autographs. Über stars Bebe Neuwirth and Nathan Lane graciously signed our window cards. Jackie Hoffman comes out and pulls out her own Sharpie. I'm thinking, she's funny and prepared! She signs one of the cards and poses for a picture that I am taking. As I hand over the camera and move in for my picture, I told her she was wonderful and every scene she's in, she's the focus, just like her movies! She stopped smiling and said "Shyeah, name one of my movies." I told her I loved her characters in Legally Blonde 2, Garden State, and Kissing Jessica Stein. She snapped back "On yeah, you like the frumpy lesbians, huh?" I was really confused why she was being so aggressive. She singed my window card, and the pic of us shows her pursed lips just after she yelled at me.

BTW, Kevin Chamberlain lingered and lingered. He happily signed our cards and took pictures. Then, as if I were invisible, he asked my husband what he was doing later! He told him we were going to grab a snack and go back to our hotel. Then he handed him a card and said that if he could get away later, that's where he could find him. Fucking bald ass home wrecker.

I met Michael J. Fox once with his wife, Tracy Pollan. It was backstage after the taping of a live TV show. They were there as guests, not performing.

I gently approached them and said in one long breath: "excuse me I know I'm bothering you but I just think you're an amazing actor Michael and I've been a fan since Family Ties (I hand his wife my phone) could I please trouble you to take a quick photo of us and then I'll leave thank you so much" and as Tracy is very kindly trying to figure out how to take a pic with a Blackberry "just please push the big button in the middle thank you" and she does and I leave

I didn't really want to give them a moment to say no so I kept talking. I look retarded in the pic with my mouth hanging open and I have 'Runaway Bride' eyes. But I got it.

Their reputation is that they're very nice but even the nicest people have bad days (and ass-holes have good ones); you just never want to get a nice person on a bad day.

Oh, and as I was walking away I said "The caption on my Facebook post is going to say with this photo 'Whitfield is Brantley and Brantley is Whitfield'" (I am around MJF's age, height, complexion) ...Michael smiled a bit at that semi-obscure reference as most people know him as Marty and Alex.

I didn't know who Kevin Chamberlain was so I looked him up. Prince Charming!

R440, Jackie sounds insecure; and, as we saw at the Emmys, she tries to be funny and it doesn't always fly.

Jewish lesbians are the worst.

Ricky Wilson was not out. No one in the B 52s was out back then. And there's only one straight person in the band.

R398, so YOU'RE the perv she's always talking about!

R441 don't worry about offending Michael J. Fox. He is Canadian and without question ALL CANADIANS are super friendly and nice.

It is in Canada;s DNA and in the water to be nice.

R442 He's also Bertram the butler in Jessie on Disney Channel. Our daughter loved that show and we would always make a "homewrecker" remark under our breath and laugh when he was on screen.

Maybe 17-18 years ago, he was Horton in Seussical on Broadway.

[quote]. She singed my window card, and the pic of us shows her pursed lips just after she yelled at me.

Oh my! She took out her Bic lighter and set fire to your card? How RUDE!

r447 exsqueeze me?

[R408], loved your post but had no idea who Beverly Sills is so looked her up on IMDB.

I'm guessing it's you who wrote her mini bio on IMDB. Below is just part of it. The whole thing is worth a read even if you don't know who she is.

This vibrant, fine-humored coloratura was able to accomplish what most others of her ilk could or would not do -- she humanized opera and made it approachable to the masses. There were no diva-like traits in this star and the public absolutely adored her for it. Dubbed "America's Queen of Opera" in 1971 by Time magazine, Beverly Sills, the lovely blonde with the toothy smile and fireplace-warm personality, also gained notice for her rise to stardom without benefit of European training, eventually paving the way for other American-trained singers to succeed without the accustomed "Met certification". During her career she recorded 18 full-length operas as well as numerous recital discs. A Victor Herbert album she recorded won a Grammy Award in 1978. If not one of its most distinctive and charismatic voices, she certainly became opera's most accessible figurehead and with it enticed a surprisingly wide audience who would have typically turned away from the long-haired art form.

Brooklyn-born Belle Miriam Silverman arrived on May 25, 1929, to Russian-Jewish émigrés and the good humor already started at birth when she was nicknamed "Bubbles" due to bubbles emanating from her mouth as she arrived. At age 3 she made her debut on a kiddie show and won a Brooklyn "beautiful baby" contest as well.

R451 Beverly Sills. She and Carol Burnett were friends. I think she appeared on Carol's show a number of times.

Add me to the list of Cilla Black employees who were disappointed with her fake accent, snobbishness and general vile-ness. On the other hand, LOVED Glenda Jackson, Barbara Windsor & Penelope Keith.

R450 Mike Myers may be Canadian but he also holds American and British citizenship. These admixtures can dilute the niceness.

It’s me again (R453). Just want to say, I loved Cilla - before I met her. Bought all her albums, watched her show every week. Never meet your heroes.

So sad about all the accusations against Harvey Fierstein. For the life of me I always assumed he was gay.

What was wrong with Cilla? What were her real and fake accents?

R456 Are you mixing up names? It sounds like you’re meaning say that of Harvey WEINSTEIN?

If it weren't so loaded, R458, it might be funny. But it is, so it falls flat. Or splat, like Whalestein did when he hit the ground.

Bev Sills used to be one of the celebrity voices that played in cabs reminding you to buckle up (do they still do that?). This was in the late 90s/early aughts. Every time we heard it , my friend and I would sing “Ahhhh” in our fake opera voices.. Even the cabbies would laugh with (not at) us.

Mike Myers is an atrocity in ANY country and across ALL borders

You want a nice star? Try Kim Cattrall. Fun and funny. And Tom Hiddleston, sweet and bright and clearly gay.

Tom Hanks is as nice as they say. So is Garth Brooks.

Some of the people accused of being difficult actually just have difficult people working for them. I cannot count the number of times I’ve seen a ridiculous request in a rider that turns out to be from some underling. I cannot even remember who it was anymore but one example was a pop singer who called for all these cases of a specific brand of water and beer. Turns out her manager was using it to stock the band’s bus. We said “no” to that and no one blinked an eye. Ditto with the petty rules that such-and-such hates this or that and will not perform if X doesn’t happen. Usually it is 100% BS.

That may be a reflection of who the artist chooses to surround themselves with but not always. I had a woman in my company once who was a dream employee when I was in the room but did a complete 180 whenever I wasn’t around. Some people are just like that and I had to let that one go because she was making a bad impression of the way I do business.

That's interesting -- are YOU famous? a nice person?

Interesting post about the hangers-on. I was friends with Liberace's dresser (never his boyfriend), and Lee was the nicest celebrity I ever met.

But everyone, and I mean everyone was stealing. The guys that ran his restaurant in Las Vegas, the manager, the person running the concession booth, his family. Lee knew too, but was making so much money he didn't care.

Kind of a sad life too- kept so isolated. He worked a lot, rarely took vacations. I don't think he got to enjoy his fame from what I saw.

R427 -- That was Mr. Bacon in his pre-anything days. All he was was a waiter with attitude. I've known a few celebrities before they got famous. Most of them seemed nice enough before it happened. Almost none of them stayed nice. It's almost impossible to control your ego when money, sex, and fame are flowing all over you. Because of my job I've met hundreds of celebrities, and there are very, very few I'd ever want to see again.

The nicest I ever met: Bridget Fonda. A real sweetheart. But she grew up in the business, knew what it was all about, and eventually got out. Another really nice one was Glenne Headly, who was a total class act. Horrible to see she died so young. And as other people have noted, Woody Harrelson is another sweetheart.

Then there are those who can be terrific, or horrible, depending on the day. Ted Danson comes to mind -- he can be the nicest guy, or an asshole, and you never know which you're going to get. Sally Field can be like your little sister, or your worst enemy. Lucille Ball, same thing. One day she wants to play backgammon with you, the next day she doesn't want you in her sight. You just never know....

Another of the truly nice ones: Phyllis Diller. Seriously. She knew exactly who she was, who you were, and what was expected of both of you. And probably the worst: Melanie Griffith, who was known for picking her nose and throwing the contents at you. Also, seriously.

[quote]The rumor has always been that Kate of the B-52s is a lesbian. Not sure if she ever came out. I've always liked their music but never really followed their personal life sagas

It’s not a rumor. She married her partner in Hawaii a couple of years ago. I follow her on FB and she’s very open about it.

[quote]You want a nice star? Try Kim Cattrall. Fun and funny.

Really? My experience with her has been just the opposite.

Speaking of Harvey Fierstein- Major asshole. I worked on two projects where he potentially could have been involved. On one, it was more of a fishing expedition because we were unsure if he knew the subject at hand, the other partially had to do with his own work. He's a nasty, bitter, contemptuous person for no reason. And the lip service he gives to gay causes and gay matters? It's just a way for him to open a valve on all that stored up anger. Ask him to actually participate and he's rude and belittling.

Fred Schneider is not as bad as Fierstein, but has the same sort of attitude. Harvey is just far more of a nasty bitch.

Cilla Black - a buck-toothed eyesore of a woman - looked down her nose at other people. She played up her Liverpudlian accent (off camera, she had gradually affected a more pseudo-regal voice) and her ‘woman of the people’ persona for TV, but sneered at people and considered the general public ‘common’. Someone should have pointed out to her that the only way to be grand or posh is never to have tried to be. Neither thing can be acquired. They either are or they aren’t. And in her case, they weren’t. She was a sub-Sandie Shaw harpy who looked like a runt version of Bodicea.

Elaine Paige is getting some flack in other threads and I must say she was incredibly kind and chatty in all of my interactions with her... maybe she was "on" because it was press, but she's never been less than a consummate professional who wasn't afraid to spill some tea in my experience. Maybe even said too much. A true diva who earned her place (Tim Rice dalliance notwithstanding).

R465 what’s your experience with Ted Danson? I have never heard anything but positive things about him.

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Disappointing to hear that Sally Field can be tricky - she seems so genuine and clued-up and fun and SMART.

Yes, Kim C a real treat in my (many) encounters with her now here in London.

Jerry O'Connell probably didn't do anything with her ..since he likes the cock.

While working in a gallery in the early nineties, and staring out the front door, saw a slightly dated stretch white limo pull up with a plethora of extra opera lights. I knew it was probably someon "important" as this was no ordinary livery for hire. Out pops THE Judy collins, wearing boots w/tights, a purple leather skirt and a fur coat. I greeted her immidiately, saying Ms. Collins, I presume, what an honour! She did not look too happy. After asking her if she was on the hunt for anything specific, she named several artists of small glass objects, and sculpture. She then told me they were gifts, and all to be shipped.... Nastily with the rhetorical,"Can you people handle that?".... After making threats as to the items going missing, or getting broken, I politely explained how we would pack &transport, and that we had the best insurance. She then proceeded to make a series of phone calls obtaining addresses, all the while screaching at whomever was at the other end of the line. She appeared very agitated, and nervous, while rolling here eyes, and tapping her boots. While running her card, told her I was a fan, and thanked her for the music. She scowled, you're too young to be one of MY fans. I'm quite frankly surprised you even know who I am. I was utterly crestfallen, as previously had many fine memories listening to my mum play her records when I was young. In retrospect I sadly think she was addled, or in need of a drink or fix or something.

r475 she has struggled with alcoholism. Maybe it was a moment when she was craving a drink.

I was unaware of her troubles with drink, R476, but like many things in life, the older we become, things make more sense, and we have more compassion. That would comport with the pitiful kind of attitude too. I went on to collect many of her records in secondary schhol & Uni so really had become a fan of hers in my own right. Simply adored her lyrics and voice. I "treated" myself to four large gin martinis before din-din that night. Almost wanted to cry at the time.

My grandfather liked to tell the tale of his spat with the Gish sisters on An Unseen Enemy. He thought he would be getting into a sexy three way but the sisters trapped him and beat him up, Lillian holding his arms behind his back while Dorothy punched him brutally in the stomach.

Mrs. Fisk was a real cunt to me.

Christian Slater - was in the vip lounge in the early 2000s at the Roxbury. I was told to give up my table because they needed it for Christian. I was fine with that I work in PR I know how this works. I left my cigarettes at the table (which had an ounce of blow in it) so I went back to get it. Slater is holding them looking at me and I said "sorry I left my cigarettes, may I have them?" He said "these were given to me by the club." I said "really? then tell me what is in the lid." He looked at me oddly. I said it again. "If those are yours, what is in the lid of the box?" I took the box from him opened the lid and too out my coke. I handed him back the pack and said "compliments of the house." Guess who was asking for a bump later? Yeah fuck off.

Slater just finished a London stage run in GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS if you want to drop him a note at the stage door asking for recompense.

I lived, I have since quit both blow and smokes but Marlboro lights were much cheaper back then so was blow.

Fags are expensive now in London .....

R483 you're telling me

R481 was it good?

Slater in GLENGARRY was NOT good. The man is piss-poor as the Brits say -- did you see him opposite Jessica Lange in THE GLASS MENAGERIE.?Oh dear.

I live in neither the US or Britain r486 so I’ve seen him in neither. I don’t think I’ve seen anything he’s been in since the 80s. I recall the reviews for the glass menagerie were scathing and I only remember that because the criticism was directed at the strange direction the actors were given, rather than the actors themselves, which at the time made me really wish I could have seen it so I could see the weirdness for myself. Anyway, I was curious about him Glengarry, so thanks for filling me in.

I love the Cilla-Black-was-a-cunt stories.

Sadly the Cilla stories are actually kind. Pretend posh is the absolute worst.

I saw Steve Jobs at a grocery store in Los Angeles 10 years ago. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face.

I don’t understand why anyone would even speak to a celebrity. R490, you asked for it.

What do you mean by closing his hand shut in front of your face? At least you didn't get pummelled like what the Gish sisters did.

R490 thanks for the copypasta!

r440, I can second your comment about Kevin. I know him socially and he's a total asshole. I'm not shocked or surprised at all that he tried to take your man right in front of you.

Indeed R494. A co worker of mine is a neighbor of Kevin in LA and has related similar opinions. As for R440, keep in mind when you look like Kevin, you've got nothing to lose by being so aggressive and asshoelish with someone else's BF or husband. If he acts like that enough times, he'll hook something eventually, however few and far between those opportunities are!

Howard Stern talks about this all the time. He has people to be dicks so he doesn't have to look like the dick. He best freak outs on air are when he throws a tantrum about how there is no heat in his limo or how he has to look at pictures of himself.

"STOP TAKING PICTURES RIGHT NOW!!!!"

What a Bitch!

A friend of mine is a big democrat donor and, because of it, "knows" Hillary and Bill Clinton. She told me she was attending one of their Renaissance forums and was standing with Bill and Hill and, of all people, Dr. Ruth! Everyone wears name tags at these things, even well-known celebrities. It's required. The four of them were standing there chatting when Barbra Streisand showed up. She was NOT wearing a name tag. Spying Dr. Ruth, Babs made a beeline for her and started chatting her up, telling her she loved her, etc. etc.

Dr. Ruth, who was getting on in years, looked her up and down and said, "And you are?"

A few years ago, I was on a road trip with a screenwriter friend who had written a couple of horror movies with Robert Englund. We stopped at his (modest) home in Laguna Beach on our way up the coast. It had been a while since their last collaboration and the relationship must have soured. Englund wouldn't come out of his bedroom where he was talking loudly on the phone. His wife seemed embarrassed to have to entertain us in the garden. I got the feeling he didn't even want us in the house. We chatted for a while and then left without ever seeing him.

A friend had to deal with Susan Sarandon during some function and my friend called her a cunt. This was years before the political shit she pulled in 2016. My friend NEVER uses that word.

R499, I'd swear up and down I read that Robert Englund was gay ... weird.

I love R1 and R2 and R3.

Such a great start to this thread.

R501, well my friend is gay but he didn't mention anything about Englund's sexuality, which he surely would have had he been gay. His widow Nancy is a doll by the way. My friend introduced them on the set of a movie they did together back in the 80s.

Ooops. Not a widow...thought Freddie was dead.

Was working a (minor) awards show where Tracy Letts was presenting an award. He was called to places too early and threw a fit at a lowly runner. When it was actually time to be called, he refused to leave his seat. We wondered if he'd actually present the award. He did. Jerk.

R504 Freddie's dead?

R506 That's what I said.

I worked a temp job with Harold Ramis. A total asshole. His fiancee was also in the office and apologized. He was arrogant, cold and when I took a call from his dad, he was the same way. This was when "Club Paradise" was coming out so I got the great pleasure of seeing his reaction when it flopped, commercially and critically.

Ijust found out Harold Ramis and his hair are dead.

I had a friend who lived right next to Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins in a fancy loft building in Chelsea. Oddly, my friend has a name eerily similar to Tim's, so their mail would often be confused. Robbins was always pleasant about the screw-ups, exchanging mail and a little building gossip whenever necessary. Ms. Sarandon, however, was a total bitch beyond a total bitch. Acted as though my friend never deserved to get mail, should never have taken Tim's (although it was simply put in a box, he had nothing to do with it), and never had a pleasant word for anyone.

The building's occupants could never understand why Tim stayed with Ms. S -- and they were all thrilled when the collapse took place.

My friend had a charming interaction with Barbra Streisand. He was driving along Melrose in LA and saw her go into a upscale antiques store. He swerved the car around, parked, and found the only piece of paper in his car for her to sign. He approached her in the store and told her how much he loved and admired her and asked for her autograph. She said, "I'll sign it if you promise not to tell anyone else that I'm in here." Of course, he agreed and handed her the paper in his hand. She laughed and said, "You want me to sign your electric bill?? How are you going to pay it if I sign it?" He told her not to worry and that he would take care of it. She took a good look at it and laughed, "My god, your bill is only $50?!? Why can't mine be that low?"

He thanked her profusely, and when he was leaving, she hollered, "Make sure you pay your bill!"

R465 A close friend of mine went to school with Glenne and became her occasional personal assistant whenever she'd get a big project. He'd help her read lines, etc. Many years ago now, she and her husband had purchased a second home in Santa Clarita and needed help getting rid of some furniture, so my friend had me join him at her place for a couple hours on a Sunday morning to help her out. She was very funny, an absolute doll. Anyway, he had since moved to another state but I used to occasionally run into her at our neighborhood Gelson's. She would always recognize me and stop to chat a little, ask about our mutual friend, etc.... A little over a year ago now, my friend uncharacteristically called me very early in the morning. He had turned on his computer and the first thing he saw splashed across his screen was Glenne's obituary. He was devastated. Yes, quite a loss!

I was staying at a hotel in Chattanooga, TN on the same evening that Jerry Seinfeld was performing at a local venue.

A hotel employee very smartly informed me guests were forbidden to use one of the elevators as it was reserved for Jerry's personal use.

He looks like a pop eyed rodent, so I wad happy to avoid him.

Disappointed about Sarandon, not sure I believe it though, as Ive always heard Robbins was the angry asshole, and she was the chill one.

R511 Your friend is Christopher! I remember that story. I was one of the first people he called right after it happened. I wonder if we know each other.

LOL, maybe R511 is christopher himself...but posting not posting as himself, i do this sometimes lol.

What a doll she is, R511!

[quote] I don’t understand why anyone would even speak to a celebrity.

I agree. The only reason anyone goes up to a celeb and tells them they are a fan or enjoy their work is for themselves. It's not for the celeb. They are hoping the celeb will talk with them and I guess "like them". But it is all about the fan, not the celeb. The celebs know people like them and go to see their projects. I don't know if these fans think the celebs are going to want to become friends with them or something (they aren't)

Have worked with many over two decades and since these weren't just run-in situations saw them at their best/worst:

-Worst: Nina Garcia, Rita Rudner, Adrian Grenier, Tyra Bank, Paula Abdul -Best: Celine, Heart, Sheryl Crow, Julia Child, Ian Somerhalder

[quote]I don't know if these fans think the celebs are going to want to become friends with them or something (they aren't)

I can think of several people I know who admired a celeb and then became friends with them.

In certain cases, fangurls HAVE married celebs they've admired. Look at Linda McCartney for example. Apparently, she once said to a friend "I'm going to marry a Beatle!"

Linda McCartney going in for the kill >>

Work it, Lin, gurl!

Linda must have had magic pussy like that Patty whazername.

yes, R523.

R523, Not as magical as mine.

r525 it was her horse, not her pussy.

Allegedly, of course.

Back in the early 1980s, friends from college moved to Manhattan. I was in graduate school in Canada. I'd just returned from field work on the island of New Ireland after almost a year. I went to NY for a week to visit my friends. They took me to a sushi restaurant -- can't remember where, but we needed a cab from 21st st. We are seated and got drinks and talked about what to order -- I'd never had sushi before. A group comes in and sits at the table next to us -- Susan Sarandon, director Andrei Șerban, I think Christopher Walken, and a few other people. Well, the people two tables over are asked to move because Susan Sarandon says they're staring at her. They're moved. She asks them to lower shades, because people outside can see her. We order, and the food is coming out (I didn't like it, btw.) As we're eating, Susan Sarandon calls the waiter over and speaks to him. He goes to a manager who comes over and asks us to move to another table because Miss Saradon is convinced we're eavesdropping. My friends are starting to get up and I said "If someone has a problem with us at this table, they can move. I'm not moving. I'm finish my meal." Susan Sarandon gave us daggers.

[quote]She took a good look at it and laughed, "My god, your bill is only $50?!? Why can't mine be that low?"

I don't know, Babs -- maybe because you have a GODDAMN MALL IN YOUR HOUSE!

damn. FINISHING.

why in god's name would anyone even consider moving from their dinner seats because of a paranoid, nutty celebrity? that's just nuts. If anyone came over asking my party to move mid-meal, because they imagined I or my friends were 'looking' at them I'd have a fit. "Who are -you- looking at bitch? Stop looking at US".

Especially in NYC, where that kind of crap isn't supposed to go over. I know it's different in LA but still.

Rita Rudner's a bitch?! Damn. Always liked her.

I agree, R530. When I read that I actually said out loud, “Fuck you, Sarandon.” I’d say that to her in that situation, too.

Liberace did take it easy as he went through life, but he was aware that he had enemies. Either because he was thought a Las Vegas attraction rather than a genuine musician, because he was gay, or who knows what.

Many years ago, I had a radio show to do in NYC as a guest. When I arrived, Liberace had just done a show was leaving. As we met up with each other, the host introduced us, and I noticed that Liberace paused. I held out my hand, we shook, said a few words, and off he went.

Later, I realized that he was waiting to see what would do first, to avoid seeming friendly and getting abused. Brett Easton Ellis did the same thing on another radio show.

So I wonder if some of these mean celebs--just some, and certainly not the hateful Sarandon--are simply protecting themselves.

I will say it again , Helen hunt is a CUNT! So much so I had to write it again. BITCH on wheels. Morgan Fairchild talked my ear of in an elevator and was SO NICE!

Why is Helen Hunt such a cunt? I wanna know more about Hunt the Cunt.

I love hearing these stories about Susan Sarandon being a bitch. I was a huge fan in the late '80s/90s. I loathe her now after the stunt of 2016. Even actresses back then I loved - Melanie Griffith, Jodie Foster, Sigourney Weaver - I still admire. It's rare that I dislike an actor so intensely after being a big fan.

Helen Hunt, is a cunt. Her favorite actor was Alfred Lunt. When in a car, she sits upfront. When up at bat, she prefers to bunt. She once went down on Linda Hunt.

^ You repeated Hunt at the end. Allen Funt would have worked better.

A-

Thanks. But who is Allen Funt? A character or a real person?

Poor r538.

If you reply, be kind R537. Sometimes people get dropped on their heads as infants.

Allen Funt hosted a TV show called Candid Camera.

r474 Tell us about the cocks he has enjoyed

Sigourney Weaver is widely known as one of the most polite and unassuming celebs in NYC. I have met her surprisingly often over the past thirty years in a variety of places and events, everything from being introduced on the street to waiting on her at high end private dinner parties. At all times and circumstances she has been down to earth and gracious to all. Everybody except the guy who claims a group of three people can "block the whole sidewalk!" agrees!

Bug-eyed Susan can fuck herself. I hope cancer is eating up those saggy titties.

I almost married Allen Funt until I realized...

I love the Streisand electric bill autograph story.

So many high maintenance stories about her and others, but they can be perfectly nice on a given day, at a given moment to a given person.

I did hear a story about a raving bitch on a soap. She was in contract renegotiations and they were going south. The show decided to cut their losses.

A producer went up to her after she'd completed what was her last scene (only she didn't know it). The producer said, 'Did you like those scenes you just did?'

Actress: Yes, yes, I did, actually.

Producer; "Good. They were your last ones. You're done."

She later came back and the producer's now dead, but she must have felt taken down a peg after being dumped that way.

R546 Genie Francis? (Gloria Monty being the dead producer). I hope not. I love Genie, but I've heard stories. I just hope they're not true.

If I was in a restaurant at a table with friends and the waiter asked us to move because Sarandon requested it, I'd say, "Sure. If she wants to pick up our tab. I suspect she got paid more for her last movie than I made the entire last year".

r547, no, not Genie.

I've heard stories, but I think being on the show so young and having all that pressure did a number on her. As a result, years later, she fights battles she may not need to.

I was against them canning her (Genie, referring to her recent departure); I don't have all the details on her ousting.

R546 That's funny. I had a friend who was an intern on General Hospital, and witnessed that scene

R547 is half right. It was Gloria Monty and Finola Hughes. Monty walked away, and Hughes laughed with incredulity and said "Was I just fired??" to no one in particular.

R546, here.

R550 is correct. Quite correct, in fact.

Fin's a great actress and Gloria was a tyrant but I can't help but think she deserved it.

R533 many of them protect themselves from people who mean them no harm.

I'm watching the SEINFELD parking lot episodes. Four everymans (well, three - Kramer was a weirdo) being so relatable, but if you meet them in real life perhaps so unapproachable.

R547 here. You know what? Right after writing that post, I remembered that I KNEW it was Finola Hughes! (and had obviously forgotten). In fact. as I recall, the year she was let go was the same year she won the Emmy, and it was after she had been fired. And then Gloria Monty "left". In 1991 I worked the Soap Opera Digest awards and got to meet Finola, right after she won Best Actress. I said something like, "now that you've won and Gloria is off the show, are you gonna return and say "fuck you, bitch?" She laughed! (Gloria might have still been producing it at that point, but I said something to that effect that made Finola laugh).

How could I have forgotten that???!!!!

I told Jennifer Aniston that I was really sorry that her career took a nosedive after "Friends" and it's too bad she has to do those Aveeno and EyeLove commercials, and I was sorry that she had to try and hide her itchy eye condition from the world, but now her secret is out, but she should be grateful for her commercial career cause she really isn't talented, but I'd still do her, and she pulled my hair and kicked me square in the nuts.

R551 the way my friend told it to me, Monty was just very difficult and unpleasant. She didn't seem to blame Hughes at all, but who knows?

She brought me on the set. Emma Samms had returned, and she was rehearsing a scene with Tony Geary, who was Bill at the time. I think? She smiled at me, and though I'm gay as all get out, I melted. She was stunning in person.

At some point, I was in a room where Gerald Hopkins and Steve Burton were playing video games. Holy fuuuuck they were some hot-ass Quatermaine bros.

I went and saw Amanda Palmer at an outdoor gig, My friend who had helped to put it together, brought me over to introduce us. He started the introduction, I think telling her I was a fan. She looked me up and down, and suddenly walked away before he finished speaking . We were both taken aback. She was warm and friendly toward every other person who approached her before and after, as far as I saw. I wasn't sure what put her off me, but like the delicate flower I am, I have not listened to her music since.

Good for you, R556. That’s inexcusable!

Sarandon wasn't even a star in the early 80s. Seriously fuck her.

There is no way I’d move tables for some actor or actress. Who do they think they are? They pretend for a living, not save lives. If they want my friends and me to move they can offer to pay for all of our meals for the inconvenience. But even with that offer I doubt I’d bother moving. They should have booked a table like the rest of us.

I worked at a Pizza Hut in New Jersey when soap star Erika Slezak came in with her husband and 2 children. She seemed bemused and looked around the place. She asked 'what do we do?' to the server who asked her if she wanted take out or sit and eat? "Sit...and EAT??' Slezak said, looking horrified. Her children begged for the chance to go to the salad bar and her husband just shrugged his shoulders. All eyes were on her because she was a famous star. She clutched the sleeve of her husband and put on her sunglasses (it was dark out) and put her head down as he led her to a dimly lit table.

a famous model tried to get my friend fired from her job, a gym. She's a hippie, pretty zen and the manager refused this horrible request. It went on for over an hour. My friend told me right after it happen. she ask who is cindy crawford? She is a psycho bitch. the gym banned her.

Why did she want her fired?

[quote] I don't know if these fans think the celebs are going to want to become friends with them or something (they aren't)

They won’t? Then how come I’m BFFs with all the big ones? Pitt, Jolie, Jay-Z and B, Jen and Justin. How do you think that happened? Because I said Hi to them. DUH

A friend of mine was travelling to the Caribbean years ago and ended up sitting in first class next to Lionel Richie.

They started talking, turned out they were staying at the same luxury resort, and agreed to meet for drinks when they both get there. After some time there, they ended up having sex. When he was about to cum, he asked her if he could cum in her hair. She didn't want to do this at all and got mad, and they stopped having sex. Lionel then said:"Why do you have to go on and make this all weird?", which was the end of their Caribbean affair.

On her cellphone voicemail, she would sing his song "Hello" and changed the lyrics to, "I can see it in your eyes..I can see it in your hair."

R543 You obviously don't live in Manhattan. lf you did, you'd it's entirely possible for three large people to block a side street sidewalk. And if you lived here, you would know it's a sideWALK not a sideSTAND. And Weaver was a cunt. Maybe not to sycophantic waiters but to regular people who are just trying to get across town unimpeded she's an entitled cow.

Hilarry and Bill. Saw them once at a book signing somewhere and they were mean as snot. Actually wanted to see my reciept for the book I purchased before theyed sign it. Just nasty. I returned the book and told them to go fuck them selfs.

Is that why you turned down Darth Vader’s proposal, r545/Ella?

[quote] And if you lived here, you would know it's a sideWALK not a sideSTAND.

For this, r565, I adore, cherish, and revere you. When I lived in DC, I used to rail against the cunts who'd ride their bikes on the sideWALK. It's not a sideRIDE.

Bless you, child.

R519 What did Adrian Grenier do? I've only known him socially for the last few years - after he was famous - and he seems perfectly nice. What's the story?

Any more Ellen, Oprah or Rosie O'donnel stories?

I don't know what the ww and ff buttons mean. l've looked through help but didn't get any. How do you like a comment? Sorry this is off-topic.

r571, to like a comment, push the turquoise button that says "ww" in white.

[Quote] His widow Nancy is a doll by the way.

What a creepy coincidence.

[Quote] Lionel then said:"Why do you have to go on and make this all weird?", which was the end of their Caribbean affair.

Gee i wonder lol

R572 Thanks.

I’ve mentioned this once before. Frank Sinatra was a frequent dinner guest at my parent’s house. Was wonderful to us kids since we had no idea who he was. The only negative I heard was one night my Mom said “He sure dates em young”. My mother was a total prude. Mia was always sweet.

[quote]Mia was always sweet.

Did Frank ever sing "My Funny Valentine" to Mia?

[quote] Mia was always sweet.

Did Frank ever sing "My Funny Valentine" to Mia?

I went through a phase when I wrote for autographs. Two genuine ones I have, since I sent the photos to the celebs and compared the signatures on the photos I got in response, are Liz Taylor and Ella Fitzgerald.

Some celebs have their assistants sign. Walt Disney’s famous signature featured at the start of his show for decades, was actually one of his secretary’s, as his signature was an illegible scribble. The other trick is that they sign a photo negative. The pols probably do that now, but they used to use an auto-pen. Do they still have negatives? Well, computer generated, today, I guess.

My Jean Claude Van Damme and Robert D. Jr. might have been signed photo-negatives. Both from the 1990s. My Vincent Price and George Stephanopolous are genuine. George’s Office called me to say I left my return address off of my letter. She said she was reluctant to leave a message on a land line, but after a few tries, figured what the heck why not. Probably didn’t want to out a Gayling. George was cute 20 years ago.

I got a Gina Lollobrigida signature for my boyfriend. Can’t say one way or the other on that one. He mentioned her once, completely out of context and for the first and only time. He made me laugh and laugh at that. So, when I say her address printed (or her agent, or PR person, more likely), I had to write.

I live in Austin and know someone who works at the airport. Says everyone talks about what a bitch Oprah is but says Stedman is really nice. He dealt with Stedman and said he was a gentleman. He said Jessica Simpsons dad was a prick.

My friend and her sister were in NYC and were in a donut shop. They were huge fans of Jag and Catherine Bell was in there. They said "Catherine?" She said yes, they dont think anyone recognized her because she was dressed down with no make up. She told them her kids were waiting for her in a cab. They asked for a pic. She sweetly lamented she had no make up on but posed for the pic. I saw the pic and she really had not a stitch of making up on and wasn't looking her best. It was really sweet of her to pose with them. I thought they should have left her alone when she said the kids were in a cab outside.

Someone mentioned Melanie Griffith up thread. Anyone remember the movie One On One.? I saw it when it first came out and watched it recently on TCM. Melanie Griffith had a small part in the beginning. Here is what is weird- she was very young but didn't have the weird breathy baby voice that I always hated. It was high, but not like it is now, all whispery and dingy sounding. That apparently is something she picked up because she thought it was sexy, like MM. The movie was made around 1977. She was the hitch hiker Robbie Benson picked up.

Walked by Rick Santorum when he was a U.S. Senator in preparation for a graduation ceremony. No one else was close. He didn't speak. But I didn't speak to him either. He lost the next election. There was an arrogance about him, and many voters picked up on it.

Leonard Nimoy, Jennifer Aniston and Seth MacFarlane don't add up as assholes, r417.

What did they do to you?

I fan gushed at Nimoy when we were both audience attendees at the Sundance Film Festival one year. He was polite and friendly.

I wish it would have been legal for you to take a flat end shovel on his nasty ass, 581. Such a vile, repulsive humanoid. I’d just love for vid of him and Huckabee doing the man sex.

I briefly met Seth MacFarlane once; it was at an industry party for one of his Family Guy DVDs.

this was before the habit of taking selfies everyone got into really became prevalent.

I asked a girl to take a photo of him and me. Seth agreed, but wanted to keep it quick.

She took the pic, looked at it and said oh, it's blurry! I'll take another.

I thanked her and said quickly, 'Forget it. I'm sure it's fine. It's just for my vision board.' (knowing Seth thinks those things are probably silly)

He chuckled.

I thanked him and left with my blurry pic.

Many years ago Sigourney Weaver attended an event at Columbia U. and also gave a speech. A friend of mine, who was an undergrad at the time, was her "minder" at this event, basically being her PA for the day. He said she was absolutely lovely and gracious and a few days after the event she personally called him to thank him for helping her. Now, that's CLASS.

R585, that's a nice story.

I think non celebs are allowed to have good days and bad, but for some reason a celeb having a bad day brands them for life as an asshole; of course to the person he/she is mean to they ARE an asshole and when's the next time you're going to run into Babs, Madonna or whoever you'd love to meet.

It's hard to always been in a good mood. But I hope that celebs make that effort to know that they're holding something very precious when a fan comes up to them. If they crush them, well, then that's what they do, but to the ones who muster up some kindness -- God bless you!

You give someone a memory -- and maybe a selfie -- they'll remember fondly forever.

Looking at the display, not ahead, I bumped my cart into a woman at the Gelson's grocery store. She had her back to me and I thought, "What a hilariously bad wig!" It was long, obviously synthetic, and a weird, reddish purple.

Well, the woman wheels around: "You've ruined the backs of my [some brand of shoe]!

I realized it was Brenda Dickson. So I said, "Well, Hello! I never met a carrot I didn't like!"

She did NOT think it was funny. She kept asking me crazy questions. "Are you on their payroll?" "They put you up to this didn't they?" "Are you going to hurt me?"

I just said, "Sorry for the inconvenience." and got away. She followed me. Kept asking crazy questions and accusing me of being their for her and tossing things off shelves into my cart. I realized the only thing I could do was just leave the cart and drive someplace else.

NUTS!

Poor Brenda.

I think you have to be truly nuts to throw away your career like that. Y&R gave her tons of passes till they had to let her go.

I read producers went to her room BEGGING her to come to set to shoot her scenes.

Muhney was another one. All he had to do was keep his nose clean, continue to play the antagonist (which he was okay at) and he'd still have a job. Think of the money he'd have made in the last five years alone.

You have to be partially crazy to throw steady jobs away.

I always assumed that Brenda is a HUGE DRUNK.

I find it sad when I encounter people/celebs who you just can't be nice to.

They've got their walls up and a lot of times they can't help it and a lot of times they don't want to.

I don't know which is sadder.

They may know you're trying to be nice to them, but nothing's going to fill that dark void that led them to want to become entertainers or, rather, "stars".

R590, darling, you make a wonderful point. But we say "whom" in this country. "Whom."

[quote][R543] You obviously don't live in Manhattan. lf you did, you'd it's entirely possible for three large people to block a side street sidewalk. And if you lived here, you would know it's a sideWALK not a sideSTAND. And Weaver was a cunt. Maybe not to sycophantic waiters but to regular people who are just trying to get across town unimpeded she's an entitled cow.

If you see a group of people standing on the sidewalk, just bypass them. It's done every day by thousands of people in Manhattan. The only reason you did not do it it's because Sigourney Weaver was standing there and you wanted to show her that she is not all that. Get over yourself.

Everyone here calls Helen Hunt a cunt, but I have yet to read an actual story of her being a cunt.

R590, Jamie Lyn Bauer, once a castmate of Brenda Ickson said perhaps the best thing about star interactions with fans: "Be grateful, be polite and that's it."

I am a celebrity.

I REFUSE to autograph because they can sell it.

I REFUSE to have selfies because the fans get in close and TOUCH me.

I MAY speak to fan if I'm in the mood.

You took Mira Sorvinos picture with the camera in your phone the year she won her Oscar R64?

No you didn't

The autograph thing has gotten so commercial. Celebrities will be given a stack of cards to sign.

I would have a "I'll sign one thing" rule. Unless it's my book and you just bought it.

I do not think it is rude for a cele to deny autographs and pics, unless they are at an official signing. RUDE and Nasty is when they do something to disturb your daily life, and they do. We want those stories.

R595 I have no idea why grown adults want autographs. It’s demeaning and ridiculous. However why do you care if some sad sack who waited on the street for 2 hours to get your signature then sells it online for $10? Obviously they need they money. Does it really matter that it was sold from one person you don’t know to another person you don’t know?

10 bucks is 10 bucks, r599.

Decades ago, I was one of five passengers on a small commuter flight in PA. The late country music singer, Kenny Price (Hee Haw regular), was on the plane heading to do a solo, concert at a county fair. He was very friendly, candid, talkative, and made a point to converse will all, asking each passenger about their background and interests.

In 1968, my mother owned a florist and one of her good customers was a bigtime Republican contributor and was hosting an outdoor fundraiser at her estate (southern). I was a young teen, but old enough for delivery. When I got there with table arrangements, corsages, and boutineers, the host asked me to pin the flowers on the special guests. Among the politicians/dignitaries pinned, was the then VP of the U.S., Spiro Agnew. While I pinned him with the boutineer, he looked at the flower and said "thank you, good job". Incidently, I made the boutineers as well. No, parents were not Republican party members. It was business.

[quote]Everyone here calls Helen Hunt a cunt, but I have yet to read an actual story of her being a cunt.

That's because she kills the ones who talk. You don't want to know the details. *shudder*