OMG, I Watched Scream Last Night

The opening with Drew Barrymore was amazing and scary. It was all downhill after that.

The movie is a very clever satire on the genre and intelligently subverts and mocks tropes. Guess you weren't that smart to figure that out...

Everything these days is a parody of itself, but back then the whole meta angle was new and interesting.

Aside from the fact it was satire and meant to be taken as tongue in cheek, it was the first proper "slasher film" to hit the cinema since the '70s. So there was a lot of hype around it at the time. Oh and Sidney's boyfriend was played by Skeet Ulrich who is a brilliant actor and, by all accounts, a thoroughly nice guy.

A clever satire? It broadly proclaims its parody several times throughout the film, at the top of its lungs. Not very "clever."

I loved Scream when it came out, but when it came out, Scream's tongue in cheek, ironic mix of humor and horror was a pretty novel approach, which accounts for why it was such a hit. It has been copied a million times since, and is more likely than not, it's now the default setting for these types of movies. So, stripped of it's novelty, the movie doesn't hold up very well.

R3 and R6 are right. That's why it was so popular.

I rewatched it recently and it was not as good as I remember. Mostly because that winking-at-the-camera ironic parody that was so ground breaking has been done to death since then.

I’ve never been much of a horror fan but I loved the whole series, especially the first one. Neve Campbell was just right and the first scene with Drew Barrymore was terrific.

I saw it at Cannes before it came it out. The audience loved it. So did I.

When they actually slowed the jokes down to deploy some suspense, it was actually a very twisted and stressful movie. I even liked the 2nd one. The cat and mouse hunt in the sound room between the killer and Gale Weathers is fantastic and expertly choreographed.

The rest of them completely suck dick.

[quote]And...."your slut mother"? In 1996? Really?

How dare people slut-shame 22 years ago! Do they have no idea of the political correctness standards we would evolve to have in 2018?!

[quote] A clever satire? It broadly proclaims its parody several times throughout the film, at the top of its lungs. Not very "clever."

LOOK AT ME! I'M CALLING OUT EVERY HORROR MOVIE TROPE AS I STEAL IT WHOLESALE! NOW I'M DEAD BY A STEREOTYPICAL MOVIE PSYCHO KILLER IN A CALCULATEDLY ICONIC MASK! I WISH I HADN'T WASTED MY LIFE!

Don't you hate when dialogue in movies accurately reflect bad words people use in real life, [11]?

[quote] Don't you hate when dialogue in movies accurately reflect bad words people use in real life, [11]?

Shit, no!

OP sounds old and un-fun.

Obviously once you know the ending it's easy enough to spot the tells.

I remember seeing it in a packed theater. Everyone was excited b/c it was the first big Wes Craven movie to come out in awhile.

I can’t stand Rose, but she was never ugly as a young woman. She screwed up her face with fillers and plastic surgery. Rose was very very pretty.

[quote]The opening with Drew Barrymore was amazing and scary.

[quote]back then the whole meta angle was new and interesting.

[quote]I loved Scream when it came out, but when it came out, Scream's tongue in cheek, ironic mix of humor and horror was a pretty novel approach, which accounts for why it was such a hit.

R3 and R6's explanations are dead on.

To expand on what R1 said about Drew being amazing, I think the idea of the biggest "star" in the movie dying in the opening scene was a pretty big deal back then. I don't remember ever seeing that element before.

I saw it in a packed theater full of an “urban” audience. I’ve never experienced a movie-going experience like it since. The screaming and laughing was deafening, like a rock concert. The talking back to the screen was hilarious.

I have fond memories of the movie but I can imagine that watching it at home nearly 20 years after it made such a pop cultural splash could be a drag.

The concept and cast get a lot of attention but it’s also a well-made film.

It's because we had been inundated with so many truly terrible Z-list cheapies before then, R20.

"Well...OP, What's your favorite scary movie?"

Agreed, R17. I never heard anyone back in the '90s say she was "ugly." She was seen, by many, as the "hot indie chick," which was in vogue during the mid to late '90s (or at least it was in the UK). I always thought she was beautiful. She made me think, at the time, of a modern day Bette Davis (although she didn't have BD's acting chops). I suspect those who weren't old enough in the '90s, are only going on what they know of her today. I still think Rose is beautiful, but the butch haircut and her make-up (overly dark brows, black mascara on bottom lashes, bright Barbie pink lipstick) does her no favours.

OP sounds like an old, shaking his fists and ranting at clouds. And like R2 said, he's too stupid to figure out what the movie's about.

"An old"?

R25 who's the real retard, R24 for omitting a word or you for not being able to assume what that word would have been?

R24 is for being too vague.

R23 Rose was beautiful in the film, and i remember her character may have started the low waisted jeans trend again

The best thing about the Scream movies is, Scream 2 is pretty much as fun and as well-made as the first movie. That almost never happens (in fact, that is discussed in the movie). Pity that Scream 3 was so horrible and Scream 4 was so unbelievable.

Scream 3 was obviously meant to be a parody of some sort of the first two. I used to hate it because it is so different and lighter in tone but now I find it hillarious. I love Parker Posey's character and her constant fighting with Gail and that Carrie Fisher cameo is a hoot ("I was up for Princess Leia, I was this close. So, who gets it? The one who sleeps with George Lucas!")

Scream 4 wasn't so bad but I didn't like the ending and there were too many annoying millenial brats in it.

Skeet was yum.

Stu was better apparently Matthew Lillard has massive sizemeat

Iirc, this film was Drew Barrymore's epic comeback after years of partying and drugs, which made her scene even better.

What really got me in the feels was towards the end of the scene, when she's being dragged and tries to scream but can't, her breathless squeaking was heartbreaking!

In a time where N'Sync , 98 degrees, and the Backstreet Boys reign because of their boyish good looks you question why this movie did well?

R31 FTW

R32 how you know ? I memba hearing a rumor form a friend who went to some dumb ass convention, and he swore on soft it was an impressive bulge.

[quote]The movie is a very clever satire on the genre and intelligently subverts and mocks tropes. Guess you weren't that smart to figure that out...

Despite being a fan of horror I had never seen Scream so I finally sat down to watch it a few months ago. It was a typically lame 90s picture and I completely hated the huge obvious winks it was giving to the audience -- HURR HURR I JUST MADE A FUN-FUN DID YOU SEE THAT?

"Huge obvious winks" were what passed for satire in 1990s Hollywood.

The audience laughed at Rose and her nipples poking through her tight shirt.

Skeet was the best looking dude in that flick. He guest starred in Riverdale recently after taking a hiatus from acting to raise a family with his wife. He used to be compared to Johnny Depp (in looks) back then which used to get on his nerves. He's aged very well, imo.

Scream, a parody of the B movie horror flicks, paved the way for the slapstick horror franchise Scary Movie (starring Anna Faris) spoofing horror movies even further. It was basically open season on horror flicks and mocking them without mercy.

Skeet has been bumped up to series regular on Riverdale. He's become a major part of the story and is great.

Scream is a fantastic movie. Both scary and funny and pretty smart satire.

Isn't Skeet a regular on Riverdale?

Probably, R41. I haven't watched it. I had heard he'd guest starred in it though. I'm glad he's a regular. I always thought he was a good actor.

Ah, the once so pretty Skeet.

My 22 year old niece confessed she is still crushing on old geezers Luke Perry and Skeet Ulrich on Riverdale.

Skeet was also the star of Jericho tv series from 2006 to 2008, so not totally off the radar.

Wes Craven i sorely missed. If you have a problem with this movie, perhaps you should compare it to all the crappy "horror" movies that have come out in the past 20 years.

The only decent horror films, since the 90s, that I can think of (and, granted, I've not seen them all) was the Conjuring. I thought Insidious was good too.

OP OMG. You gave away TMI so like gag me with a spoon.

Those sayings are from three different decades, R48.

[quote] OP sounds like an old

"An old" would have seen the movie years ago. Maybe even in the theater when it was released.

"A young" would not have seen the movie before and might find it underwhelming.

There were no tits in the film. Of course being written by a gay man, there wouldn't be any.

A way better and less meta film was URBAN LEGEND. Written by a gay male too (gays and horror? Touche) but still the better film IMO.

[quote]The only decent horror films, since the 90s, that I can think of (and, granted, I've not seen them all) was the Conjuring. I thought Insidious was good too.

There have been plenty in the aughts and teens.

But Maureen Prescott was a "slut mother" she did the whole neighborhood

You have to be a slut to let that troll Liev Schrieber stick his dick you. Ewwww!

Drew’s death scene was a nod to blonde Janet Leigh being killed off quickly in Psycho and, in some ways, blonde Amanda Wyss being killed off early by Freddy in A Nightmare on Elm Street. She had been on a comeback way before Scream, beginning with Poison Ivy and continuing with films like Boys on the Side, Bad Girls and Mad Love.

[quote] The boyfriend Billy has never washed his hair in his entire life and probably smells like stale cooking oil and mildew.

Billy Loomis had some of the best lines, OP:

"Movies don't make psychos. Movies make psychos more [italics]creative[/italics]!"

Trying to sweet-talk his partner: "The Exorcist was on. It got me thinking of you."

^Aaaand DL formatting has failed me again. [italics] *creative [/italics]

Drats!

Sidney's pink floral t-shirt is from Gap's Spring 1996 collection which arrived in stores in February 1996.

One of the drunken guys at the house party is also wearing a Men's Gap T-Shirt.

Rose McGowan's character is wearing trash from somewhere like Express.

Here is the Spring 1996 Floral T-Shirt by Gap worn by Sidney Prescott in 'Scream' :

First time I saw Skeet I thought "big cock fingers".

OP = Jennifer Love Hewitt

Um R54, those movies were not comeback material. They bombed at the box office.

The movie was filmed around Santa Rosa and Calistoga. I wonder if the locations were affected by the fires.

[quote]"An old" would have seen the movie years ago. Maybe even in the theater when it was released.

No, an old old would not have seen it. I'm talking about old olds that don't usually go to the movies because they haven't been invented yet when they were growing up.

They would have to be "old old" then, R64, considering movies were being made in the early 1900s.

Oh, really, R52? How comes you didn't name them? Although, I tip my hat to R51. I'd forgotten about Urban Legend. That was a good flick.

Maureen Prescott flashed her shit all around town like she was Sharon Stone and let's face it she was NO Sharon Stone.

I love Scream 3 for Parker Posey alone

The dueling Gail Weathers angle was comedy gold

I likes part 2 best.

I saw Scream 3 a few days ago and I liked it more than I remembered.

[quote]Um [R54], those movies were not comeback material. They bombed at the box office.

So what? She was steadily working way before Scream, and working with good directors and co-stars. She’d certainly come a long way from what her future could have been had she not cleaned up her act, got a normal job and then segued back into movies with her star making turn as a Lolita in Kat Rueben’s Poison Ivy, a movie that was her actual comeback and a film she got critical plaudits for.

[quote]The only decent horror films, since the 90s, that I can think of (and, granted, I've not seen them all) was the Conjuring. I thought Insidious was good too.

‘90s horror flicks through to today’s horror movies by and large pale when compared to the stuff from the ‘70s and ‘80s, but if there’s one spooky flick from the ‘90s that truly delivered scares, it was Candyman.

I love that Gap playlist guy is able to work his obsession into so many threads. Also that he’s a snarky bitch about Rose’s non-Gap outfit.

Tatum was a slut!

Scream 3 is actually worth a rewatch post Weinstein fallout. He very famously produced these films. There’s a character John Milton played by Lance Hendrickson in the film who produced the Stab films and raped Sidney’s mother and other ingenues, setting up the chain of events leading to the first film. The actress playing Neve Campbell’s stand says a line like “I didn’t fuck that pig Milton just to die with second rate celebrities like you two.”

It’s an even more meta twist than audiences wouldn’t have caught back in the day. I’m sure Craven and screenwriter Ehren Kruger had a reason for including it.

Good catch, R75. I didn't realise Weinstein produced the Scream franchise. I've not watched the films in years and had never heard of HW before the scandal (yes, I'm that much of a hick). I think you're right about that line being a dig about Weinstein. Too much of a coincidence for it not to be.

Scream jump started the genre again, just like Halloween did. I love horror movies. While Drew Barrymore was making some movies, like Poison Ivy to critical acclaim, they were hardly blockbusters. Scream was a Blockbuster that brought her a lot of attention. It was like having her character in The Wedding Singer brutally murdered. The opening sequence could of been a segment on a anthology horror show by itself, much like the Carole Kane opening of When a Stranger Calls. I personally loved Scream 3, the movie within the movie concept with the comedic Parker Posey as a vapid actress playing Gail. There are several threads on here with horror movie recommendations. You will find some cool ones mentioned. I found Hush and The Den on Netflix. The subtitled gay thriller with lots of dick Strangers on the Lake, also Netflix. There's a period movie called The Witch, with sometimes hard to understand old English or something that builds slowly with a R rating. The Witch can be found on Amazon Prime. There are many gems to be found.

That fringe (or bangs, I think you call it in America) was not a good look on Courtney Cox. The fuck was she thinking? She looks like she should be in Slade.

Blockbusters or no, Drew was on a comeback before Scream.

I love Scream’s soundtrack. My favorite song would have to be Dillon Dixon’s creepy yet sexy “I Don’t Care”, which played over the last part of the end credits and was oddly left off the soundtrack album.

[quote]Scream 3 is actually worth a rewatch post Weinstein fallout. He very famously produced these films. There’s a character John Milton played by Lance Hendrickson in the film who produced the Stab films and raped Sidney’s mother and other ingenues, setting up the chain of events leading to the first film. The actress playing Neve Campbell’s stand says a line like “I didn’t fuck that pig Milton just to die with second rate celebrities like you two.”

Love the Carrie Fisher cameo playing someone who auditioned for Star Wars, but the other girl got it because she put out and now her character's just working in some backlot archive.

i remember Drew making her comeback, wasnt she in Wayne's World a few years before?

I always preferred I Know What You Did Last Summer.

That scene in the garage scared the hell out of me. I want to see it again.

Laurie Metcalf should've gotten an Oscar for Scream 2.

You can tell that Wes Craven's New Nightmare was the testing ground for Scream.

Drew was already well into her comeback when she did Scream. She had already done Boys On The Side, Bad Girls and Mad Love. And Everyone Says I Love You came out that year too.

Dimension Films was a spin off of Weinstein-owned Miramax. While Miramax produced pretentious Oscar bait, Dimension produced this schlocky popcorn, mostly horror fare. Scream was Dimension's first big hit.

[Quote] Um [R54], those movies were not comeback material. They bombed at the box office.

Was anybody actually dying to see Drew Barrymore fuck Tom Skerritt?

[quote]Oh, really, [R52]? How comes you didn't name them?

Because there are twenty million websites dedicated to this subject?

Oh all right....

The Crazies (remake)

Drag Me to Hell

REC

28 Days Later

The House of the Devil

Dawn of the Dead (remake)

Paranormal Activity

Pontypool

The Descent

Right at Your Front Door

The Devil's Candy

The Sacrament

A Dark Song

Let the Right One In

American Psycho

Session 9

Ginger Snaps

We Are What We Are

Wolf Creek

Creep

Jeepers Creepers

Splinter

The Others

The Innkeepers

Martyrs

Starry Eyes

May

The Battery

Resolution

The Taking of Deborah Logan

But other than those, yes, there have been no good horror movies since the 90s.

Stake Land

The Mist

Dog Soldiers

Let Me In (remake of Let the Right One In)

Antichrist

Afflicted

The Ring

Kill List

Backcountry

Plus it helped its appeal if you were actually a teenager watching it. I watched it alone in my big isolated family home as a teen and was terrified.

(and Laurie Metcalf rocks the second film. Oscar caliber work.)

[Quote] I love Scream’s soundtrack. My favorite song would have to be Dillon Dixon’s creepy yet sexy “I Don’t Care”

My favourite is Don't Fear The Reaper by Gus.

You responded to my post, R90, claiming there were lots of great horror movies since the '90s, but then failed to give even one example, which was odd. Regardless, with the exception of American Psycho, which is actually a psychological thriller, I still stand by my original comment. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Billy & Stu...were implied to have fucked or at least fooled around prior to the events of SCREAM, yes?

It’s been so long since I’ve seen this movie I can’t remember how that relationship was spun, exactly. It was definitely homoerotic in the way many youthful trashy horror movie stories are. Or was it a one-sided crush on Stu’s side?

Surprised nobody else posted it.

[quote]You responded to my post, [R90], claiming there were lots of great horror movies since the '90s, but then failed to give even one example, which was odd.

Why bother, I at first thought. Captain Incontinence is an obvious troll. NO good horror movies in two decades? Troll country. But then I thought I'd have a go anyway, just in case and ...

[quote]Regardless, with the exception of American Psycho, which is actually a psychological thriller, I still stand by my original comment.

... you proved me right.

No, it's called having a different opinion, R98. I also suggested we should "agree to disagree." That's called diplomacy. Isn't it time you grew up?

British fraus are the most insufferable of all...

It's similar to showing my friend the original, "Star Wars" when she was in her 30's- she said, "I don't get it- what's the fuss about? It's not that great". I had to explain to her that at that time, it was a groundbreaking film- visually and aurally. A trillion films since then had been derivatives of this film, so it's not fresh and new to you.

The modern day version of, "Scream" is "Cabin in the Woods" if you care to watch it OP.

[quote]It's similar to showing my friend the original, "Star Wars" when she was in her 30's- she said, "I don't get it- what's the fuss about? It's not that great". I had to explain to her that at that time, it was a groundbreaking film- visually and aurally.

It's borderline tragic that people can't appeciate original "classics" anymore. Hollywood really fucked people up with their remakes and reboots.

[Quote] The modern day version of, "Scream" is "Cabin in the Woods" if you care to watch it OP.

Bradley Whitford was great in that. The way his character gets killed always cracks me up. And having Brian J White in the movie didn't hurt either.

[quote]Isn't it time you grew up?

0/10

Trolls should be at least mildly entertaining.

What the hell are you talking about, R4? The 80s were the golden age of the slasher film.

Courtney Cox was a good bitch.

R73 "I love" means "I am chilled to the bone". Right?

OP sounds young. Slasher flicks had fizzled out by 1989/1990. Along came Scream at the end of 1996. Directed by master of horror Wes Craven & written by Dawson's Creek's Kevin Williamson it was a horror, a comedy and a teen soap all rolled into 1 stylish movie. It had a great soundtrack, great cast and the satirical elements made viewing enjoyable and fun. It was a completely new format which was able to breath life back into an old tired genre. I watched it 3 times in the theatre in 9th grade. I prefer Scream 2. I found It even funnier and scarier then the original. I still laugh out loud during the clip of Tori Spelling as Sydney and Luke Wilson as Billy Loomis. As much as I love Parker Posey and wanted to like Scream 3, I hated it. Williamson didn't write that screenplay and the tone was much different. I like parts of it but it was dissapointing. I like Scream 4 much better than 3.

I love "Scream 2" but I hate Jerry McConnell's awful "Top Gun" rip-off scene.

Debbie Salt is the BEST, though!!!!!

And Dewey has the best line: "Nice streaks."

O'Connell, sorry.

You can mock its meta stuff as being oh so 90s, but...

There's a scene toward the end of the film where a drunken Randy is watching Halloween and repeatedly warning "Look behind you! Look behind you, Jamie!" Over his shoulder, we see the killer prowling around behind him. What makes it BRILLIANT though, is of course that Randy was played by Jamie Kennedy.

I wish they'd leaned more into the homoerotic stuff between Billy and Stu.

Just had to re-watch it myself. Haven't seen it since I was about 14!

Casey Becker's house was for sale a few years ago.

I liked “Final Destination” too. Did it come out after or before “Scream”?

Final Destination came out over three years after Scream. It's the one film I hesitate to watch before I take a long haul flight.

Probably because I'm not a troll, R104, you boring cunt.

Lol me too R114. About part 5 too.

We cloned your father’s cellular phone, Sydney!

Matthew Lillard has an enormous cock.

I was only 3 when this movie came out but it scared the fuck out of me.

I loved it at the time, but there are definitely elements that haven't aged well and it's about as 90's a movie as you're likely to find. The opening sequence with Drew Barrymore is still one of the scariest scenes of all time and, for that alone, I think the movie deserves it's classic status. A movie like When A Stranger Calls is noted as a classic simply because of its opening sequence. It's certainly not due to the rest of the film which is a total bore.

I come back to Scream 2 a little more often than the original. Laurie Metcalf makes a great psycho, the meta "Stab" stuff is really funny and clever, there are a lot of really suspenseful set pieces, and the Dewey/Gale relationship is cute.

Scream is iconic

Scream & Friends are the ultimate in 90s hair & makeup.

Courtney Cox is in both, so she is officially the Queen of 90s hair & makeup.

What are you doing with a cellular phone, son?

I watched Scream 2 last night. You would think they made enough money from Scream to buy a better hairpiece for Liev Schreiber.

[quote] Rose McGowan was as ugly then as she is now, only with less makeup.

The young Rose McGowan ugly?

Yeah, right.

Rose was cute on Charmed too. Before she started messing with her face.

Hi Everyone. Its DL resident expert here. Scream was such a hit because the slasher genre had been decimated by Blockbuster and each film was nearly of retread of the last, with increasing gore and little suspense or even plausibility.

The Scream comes along with its witty dialogue, smart characters, and satirical screenplay. it also worked that the villain wasn't a semi omnipotent beast in a mask, but a live human being so it had a whodunnit aspect as well. The actors also weren't complete unknowns, most of them featured in teen oriented shows or cinema. Courtney Cox was on the most popular sitcom at the time. You add in Hollywood royalty, Drew Barrymore, being gutted in the first minutes in a now iconic homage to Psycho, you have a recipe for success.

Scream mad a ton of money and was adored by film critics.

Hi Everyone. Its DL resident expert here. Scream was such a hit because the slasher genre had been decimated by Blockbuster and each film was nearly of retread of the last, with increasing gore and little suspense or even plausibility.

Then Scream comes along with its witty dialogue, smart characters, and satirical screenplay. it also worked that the villain wasn't a semi omnipotent masked beast, but a live human being so it had a whodunnit aspect as well. The actors also weren't complete unknowns, most of them featured in teen oriented shows or cinema. Courtney Cox was on the most popular sitcom at the time. You add in Hollywood royalty, Drew Barrymore, being gutted in the first minutes in a now iconic homage to Psycho, you have a recipe for success.

Scream made a ton of money and was adored by film critics.

"I watched Scream last night" = victim in this movie.

I saw Scream at some point in my life and the only thing I remember was the "house with endless corridors, rooms, nooks, closets and stairways."

Horror movies and comedies tend to age worse than other genres. They are usually based on what is "in", which changes constantly. If horror movies rely a lot on cgi, they are dated on the spot.

The opening scene with Drew Barrymore legit traumatised me as a teen. I was quite sheltered and had never scene a horror film before. Nowadays I'm much more desensitised (thanks for that, Internet!) and wouldn't bat an eyelid, but at the time I felt freaked out for days.

R130 it gets worse in Scream 2 and 3 lol

[quote] had never scene a horror film before

Never SEEN, I mean. Oh, the shame!

I'm glad I saw this thread last night and was convinced to re-watch Scream 2, which I hadn't seen since the release. I personally liked the original Scream better as a whole. I really liked the cast in the first one and as others said, it was a totally unique concept at that time. The kills were more abundant in 2, I loved seeing the opening sequence w/ Jada Pinckett Smith, who I can't stand. It was crazy to see a very young Portia De Rossi as the hot mean girl with Rebecca Gayheart (even more beautiful). She really was gorgeous - who would have thought she was a lesbian and would end up w/ crusty old Ellen? It was fun how they did a crossover from multiple horror films at that time Sara M Gellar (I Know What You Did), Gayheart (Urban Legend). Cox was fun and very thin/90's. I completely forgot about Laurie Metcalfe, who is pretty much amazing in everything that she does. I'm glad I watched it! Who was that guy in the end w/ Metcalfe? He was so hot in the late 90's/early aughts - he was in "Go" and I think an episode of "Sex and the City". I remember not liking Scream 3, but might re-watch it just for Parker Posey.

Don’t forget at the time in the mid 90’s the slasher and horror genre in general was on the outs with American audiences and had been since the late 80’s. Scream was considered a breath of fresh air in an otherwise tired genre. The meta angle was original at the time. Audiences and critics loved it, and it opened the door for a revival of horror movies on the big screen. Has it aged well? That’s a matter of opinion. I remember being in high school when this came out and seeing it with my friends and it was all great fun.

[quote] Who was that guy in the end w/ Metcalfe? He was so hot in the late 90's/early aughts - he was in "Go" and I think an episode of "Sex and the City".

Timothy Olyphant. Go seek out the show “Justified” and the horror film “The Crazies”, r135. He is one of the few who got more attractive and sexier with age.

On what planet is 90s Rose McGowan ugly? She was very beautiful and would still be if insecurity and Hollywood didnt throughly fuck that girl up royally.

R4 doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Slashers have been produced unabated since the 1970s, even “proper” good ones.

HALLOWEEN, ELM STREET, TEXAS CHAINSAW and FRIDAY THE 13TH all had sequels in the ‘90s before SCREAM came out, including Wes Craven’s own NEW NIGHTMARE. CANDYMAN has its fans, the Chucky movies were out there, HELLRAISER never stopped (unfortunately), but SILENCE OF THE LAMBS was one of the best and scariest movies of all time.

R135 Parker is the highlight of Scream 3. Her chemistry with Courtney is great. And I love the Carrie Fisher cameo.

NEW NIGHTMARE was only 2 years prior, r16.

R35 sounds like a knuckle-dragging Philistine.

Horror movies have gotten better in the last 20 years, R46.

Express didn’t exist back then, R58, you Aspie maniac.

R72 is just a self-righteous, old fart who probably stopped watching new movies in the ‘70s.

Jamie Lee Curtis was offered the Carrie Fisher role but turned it down.

R90 left out the first HOSTEL and some SAW movies, which were awesome.

Yeah, I think Rose McGowan was & is ugly.

Big deal.

If you don’t like THE DESCENT, r93, then you don’t like horror movies or innovative artistry.

You’re probably one of those prudes who don’t like slashers at all.

And AMERICAN PSYCHO was much more of a satire than anything else. It’s not scary or anything.

Way back years ago I was in a near deserted supermarket on Christmas Eve morning and I notice this guy stride in the door (not obnoxiously, though). I’m short. I think “That guy is *strapping*.”

He was tall, his shoulders were wide, his chest was wide, he had excellent posture, but moved easily. He didn’t have an ounce of fat but he didn’t look like he bulked up his muscles in the gym or anything. . He just looked like one of the most naturally healthy people I’d ever seen, practically glowing with health.

I realized the guy sees me noticing him and he sort of nods and so I nod back and immediately after passing him I realized he was a celebrity, but I couldn’t place him. I felt like such a dope for staring at him & he probably thought I was staring at him because I recognized him, but I had really just been startled by his overall strappingly healthy look in his lumberjaxy clothes. It was driving me crazy - who the hell *is* that guy? In the parking lot as I’m driving out, he steps out of the supermarket & it pops into my head. I wanted to yell “Hey, I finally got it! You're Jerry O’Connell!”

It was before he did Scream 2 but he was about that age. I saw and still see a lot of celebs because of where I live and I have to say he was a standout in the looks department in his day.

Scream was fun overall - scary, funny, sexy. It was groundbreaking. It all set a precedent for an all star cast that was the epitome of the pop culture zeitgeist of the time.. 80's horror films had no name casts for the most part or before they became famous. The ones that really scare me are the ones that I feel could really happen like Hostel or Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I found Hostel 2 especially scary for some reason. BTW, I thought the remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre with Jessica Beil was fantastic. It was abolsutely horrifying and I hate remakes.

Scream 2 is a lot of fun - and what a cast!

The opening with Jada and Omar is not as good as Drew's but it's still very strong. It's actually an homage to the slasher pic He Knows You're Alone which eatured Tom Hanks in an early role.

Scream 3 is not as good as the first two but as has been mentioned, Parker Posey is a riot. Apparently both Scream 3 and 4 were plagued by behind-the-scenes problems, script issues, the Weinsteins, etc.

If I'm not mistaken, the reason Scream 3 was funnier was because it followed the Columbine High School massacre and they wanted to downplay the violence. Which was odd considering it was, you know, a slasher pic.

R147 the first 2 movies were ok. I checked out Jigsaw a while back and it was complete shit.

R151 I didn't mind the Texas remake. That gun in the vagina scene was certainly memorable lol

R152 I'm not surprised about Scream 4. I really think Emma Roberts was the wrong choice. Her monologue at the end was a little too try hard.

Considering the script of Scream 2 was leaked online before filming and they had to scramble to rewrite chunks of it to keep the audience on its toes, I'd say it turned out fairly well. In some ways, it's even better than the first and it operates more like a genuine slasher thriller than a self-aware comedy. The fact that they had the guts to kill off Randy so brutally, the cop car sequence, and the deserted college campus chase with Dewey and Gale are among some of the finest, most suspenseful moments the horror genre has ever manufactured. Laurie Metcalf's wild eyed performance at the night is pretty scary and intense, too. It felt like a much more serious film than the first. Then 3 came along and blew that all to hell, but I still loved Parker Posey.

Scream 4 still bugs me. I remember so many of my friends loving it and saying it was the best since the original, but I didn't get it at all. Something about it felt too goofy and safe.

I agree R154. Scream 2 was great considering they had to scramble and change things. And Scream 4 just sucked. On all levels.

[quote]Scream & Friends are the ultimate in 90s hair & makeup. Courtney Cox is in both, so she is officially the Queen of 90s hair & makeup.

Two things that failed the test of time.

Do they at least kill off Alex P. Keaton's rebound girlfriend eventually?

One of the issues with the last two is that they play things way too safe and none of the main three die. They could have at least killed Dewey or Gale at some point. I don't even think Sid should be off limits.

Yeah, Dewey should've died in Scream 2. How many times were they going to try and fool the audience into thinking he actually didn't make it?