Storm Chaser Joel Taylor dies

Suicide?

"Unknown causes". Here's a link to a non-Mail Online source, which doesn't work for everyone.

That is BDF if I ever saw one.

Quelle tragedie!

The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind. The answer is blowing in the wind.

I was going to post this. Glad to see it done. I have had a crush on him forever and follow storm chasers. So sad, He pinged me!

This would make me so sad, if I'd ever heard of him.

I know r6, it's a tragedy waiting to happen for me too.

Poor guy. They should throw his cremains into a tornado.

r8 he'd probably enjoy that, if his spirit is lingering around.

They're hiding the real story

Wait, who?

No I think Wate Hu is that Chinese dissident. This is Joel Taylor.

I hope they eventually release a cause of death... he was so young, it's natural to be curious.

People with those type of eyes always scared me. As a toddler I assumed they were wooden dolls. Just something about the eyes made me see them as different from normal people. Those type of eyes always startled me when young. Nothing changed as I aged, especially in high school and beyond. Eyes like that are nothing but bad news. Can't believe my younger self was so savvy. Guy's eyes give me the creeps. Most suicide cases always had the same vacant look.

That pic is creepy and hollow as fuck. Shiver.

Quite a few people from that show have died.

He had a hot ass, but he couldn't live forever.

Ruh Roe ..its appears an accidental overdose on GHB on a cruise ship, I think it may have even been a Gake Ruse. Oh My, maybe he was testing out the Circuit Party lifestel in the off season. SAD

^^^sorry..here is link

Who is Gake Ruse?

Gay Cruise

Yeah, looks like it was an Atlantis cruise. Always got a vibe from Joel on that show. It seemed like he was in love with Reed. Sad story, always a nice looking guy.

Was Reed Timmer there when it happened? Were they lovers?

It was indeed an Atlantis Cruise

Reed must still be on board!

bump

Yeah he was a notorious whore when he got some fame from the show - he has/had a scruff profile under the name J. He was 6'8 or something like that and very hot body for being so tall...plus that face - I am guessing he had a foot long man slammer. He od'ed on Exstacy and Coke - not a good combo - someone said he took to much GHB one day and had to be carried off the dance floor.

How long till nudes show

looked like he was starting to get mannish, hunky looking and losing his post pubescent doofish-ness. What a shame. Did not know about his whoring. I missed that boat, no pun intended.

[quote] I am guessing he had a foot long man slammer.

This is a tragedy, it truly is.

well DAMN

It was a Royal Caribbean privately booked gay cruise. No one seems to mention that,

So it's not just fuggos, chubby bears, and eldergays who go on gay cruises? He was hot! And died way too young, bummer.

R24 mentions just that. Atlantis charters the boat and fills it with gays

[quote] Yeah, looks like it was an Atlantis cruise. Always got a vibe from Joel on that show.

Like the picture posted by Op wasn't enough?

Sad Sad Sad , we kill our own , just like the Black community

Unless I missed that somebody forced him to take the drugs didn't he just stupidly kill himself? And on an Atlantis cruise what are the odds.

NO R37 you are correct no one forced him, but the Circuit Party culture promotes a cultural norm that drugs is normal and enhances life. When just the opposite is true. The sad thing all the parties , fucking will continue on that ship with no thought to what happened. Step over over the dead body on the dance floor and carry on.

[quote]you are correct no one forced him, but the Circuit Party culture promotes a cultural norm that drugs is normal and enhances life.

What a load of bullshit. People take drugs to have fun and let loose. Why are people convinced they need to take drugs to have fun and let loose? Because they listen to judgemental assholes who decide what's considered normal and what not and, as a result, can't allow themselves to have fun and let loose while being sober, because their idea of fun, aka being gay and fabulous, is considered not normal.

R39 why don't you attend his memorial service then and tell that to his parents, siblings, and friends? I am sure they will welcome you with open arms and agree with your assessment. You must live in SF, LA , DC Seattle or NYC. You are a nasty , nasty person too bad you were not on that cruise

r40, don't hide your own bigot prejudice behind grieving people. It makes you look like the cowardly bigot you are.

The reason people take drugs is, because they feel guilt and shame for being who they are thanks to judgemental assholes who tell them for years and years that they are not normal and they should be ashamed of themselves. And they use alcohol and drugs to escape that mental torment for a little while and feel happy and free (which they could feel all the time WITHOUT DRUGS if they just no longer give a fuck about other people's judgement).

He died having fun. We should all be so lucky.

The wind began to switch - the boat to pitch and suddenly the hinges started to unhitch. Just then some Witch - to satisfy an itch went flying on her broomstick, thumbing for a hitch.

And then he died.

Sorry R41 The real reason people get addicted to drugs is genetic predisposition social pressure and the addictive nature of the substance. You sound like fragile Millennial snow flake

"The reason people take drugs is, because they feel guilt and shame for being who they are thanks to judgemental assholes who tell them for years and years that they are not normal and they should be ashamed of themselves. And they use alcohol and drugs to escape that mental torment for a little while and feel happy and free "

Your delusional and do not know how the addictive process works, primarily is heredity . Mr Taylor likely was not a addict , he was probably offered some Molly/GHB/Meth from someone with a similar moral compass to yours and trusted that person.

[quote]The real reason people get addicted to drugs is genetic predisposition social pressure and the addictive nature of the substance.

Bullshit, except the social pressure which is exactly what I wrote. Everything else is just excuses and conditioning (genetic predisposition is conditioning people to believe that they will suffer the same fate as their relatives did so they better expect to notice the described symptoms real soon).

R40

MARY!

"The reason people take drugs is, because they feel guilt and shame for being who they are thanks to judgemental assholes who tell them for years and years that they are not normal and they should be ashamed of themselves"

Yes, by all means get your self-esteem from haters and other strangers.

Why are so many guys who study meteorology gay? Meteorology seems as rife with gays as architecture or ballet - what gives?

[quote]"The reason people take drugs is, because they feel guilt and shame for being who they are thanks to judgemental assholes who tell them [bold]for years and years [/bold]that they are not normal and they should be ashamed of themselves"

[quote]Yes, by all means get your self-esteem from haters and other strangers.

The conditioning is usually done by authority figures people are told to look up to and to trust their judgement. Priests, for example. Sadly this sort of brainwashing still goes on to this day.

So he wad closeted? Did he had a beard?

R34, I think the other poster meant that no main stream news media mentions that it was a gay cruise, which is true.

R51 ah I see, yes they haven't, yet. Once they do it will be labeled a GLBTQQIAA cruise

I always thought that gay men who take drugs in bars, cruises only do it because they don't like what they are doing, I mean if you are gay Why you need to take drugs?

He was 38 - a lil old for the circuit party crows but ..cocaine and ecstasy? Bad Bad combo. And for the life of me how does someone take too much ghb? He was 6'8" and 240lbs - he must have drunk a fucking 8oz glass of it to pass out on the dance floor. ecstasy can rev up your metabolism add in coke? boom.

Has Atlantis commented?

Of course Atlantis has not commented, they are enablers in this whole mess

He was from small town Oklahoma and knew more about hate than most of you. Give him a break, but also think about how careless we are with each other handing out drugs that are dangerous.

Bag chaser too, it seems. What a waste.

Bravo R57 !!! Something tells me he was a sweet man who got in with the wrong crowd. The drug culture is pandemic in the gay world . Guess what it always has been and there have always been casualties. No one gives a shit , they feign grief and shock then resume business as usual the next day.

Was he out to his family? How devastating would it be for parents to receive news that their son has died? And is gay.

R58 A bag chaser? Watch out for bag chasers.

What is a bag chaser ?

R62 here you go

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The gay cruise company seem to have been pretty successful keeping their name out of the reports so far. Will they be paying serious bucks for this - or has the mainstream media just not caught on?

I’m an eldergay. Pretty mild mannered and vanilla for the most part - dont smoke. Don’t drink much. Never really did recreational drugs. Ate some dope-laced brownies a couple of times (the first time unwittingly!) - and did ecstasy a few times (three times to be precise!) with some work colleagues who were partiers in the late eighties. And occasionally during sex - poppers.

So I’m no expert. I get that.

But I’m so sick of people giving these dumb reasons as to why people take drugs. It’s ludicrous. The primary reason is very simple. They feel awesome!

Seriously - if you like the buzz you get after a couple of glasses of wine - let me assure you that drugs are much, much better! They feel great!

Once you find a drug of choice - the one - or more! - that do mood enhancing things that you like and make you feel amazing - then it’s really hard not to want that experience again. Humans are generally hardwired to want to repeat good experiences. And if you start doing it again too frequently - well - hello addiction!

You can dress it up with fancy pop-psych or excuses about how you were depressed or had a bad childhood or were stressed or whatever (as so many celebrities do who get busted!) - and all those reasons might well play some sort of contribution to doing the deed...

But when it comes down to it - it’s cos using drugs can feel incredible. And you’ll never feel that good again from natural highs. So you’ll more than likely wanna do it again sometime. And if you do it too much - you’re gonna start down that slippery slope.

So please - stop it with all the silly justification and lame rationalisation. It’s like in the effort to scorn and deglamoroze the wicked, evil, nasty drugs (and rightly so I think - seen the damage that can occurs so frequently!) - no one is ever prepared to admit how wonderful one feels while you’re high or wired. It’s seems really dishonest to me and I don’t think we can have a genuine conversation about the subject without admitting that.

For what it’s worth.

Anyway: Feel bad for this poor guy - such a waste. But seen so many like him over the years and it makes you numb after a while. Awful.

He was a junkie, save your sympathy for people with real problems trying to actually help themselves.

[quote]Why are so many guys who study meteorology gay?

The drama!!

Deaths on these cruises are pretty common. Atlantis has a great PR team which shifts the focus away from drug fueled orgies to their image of happy, well-toned couples viewing a beautiful vista together.

FYI, I will admit, to their credit Atlantis ads are of actual patrons.

R68 - do you think that Atlantis has a list of buff, model-looking types it comps every cruise to make sure the eye-candy content is kept to a standard? Just that you really wonder how many of them have the means to be there otherwise...? I mean - there’s only so many wealthy sugar-daddies to go around surely?

Unless they’re whores? What’s the policy on commercial sex during these cruises? If it’s allowed - does that mean many of our favourite porn stars are often aboard too?

you guys are no fun anymore. This thread is shit.

r70,

Fuck this stupid queen. She makes it harder for us responsible drug users to get onto ships. Good riddance, idiot.

[quote] Why are so many guys who study meteorology gay? Meteorology seems as rife with gays as architecture or ballet - what gives?

They do it for the umbrellas, the gayest accessory.

Even in my wildest drinking days I avoided these cruises and events like Southern Decadence, somehow knowing I would've probably just have drank myself to death.

[quote]He was from small town Oklahoma and knew more about hate than most of you. Give him a break, but also think about how careless we are with each other handing out drugs that are dangerous.

STFU. You sound like an idiot with this. Besides, you only give a shit because he was hot.

See we can make assumptions too!

[quote]Why are so many guys who study meteorology gay?

Because it's a job where you can get paid but have no accountability. If you predict a hurricane will hit tomorrow, and tomorrow is sunny and calm, then you can get on tv and say, "Whew, Hurricane Hercules blew out to sea." Al Gore made himself a millionaire by doing just that.

He was a big, lanky geek that you just know was packing some major heat.

[quote] The gay cruise company seem to have been pretty successful keeping their name out of the reports so far. Will they be paying serious bucks for this - or has the mainstream media just not caught on?

Joel Taylor was not officially out so the mainstream media is being very careful not to mention is was a gay cruise. Yes, even in 2018!

Datalounge has changed.  78 posts and nobody has asked, "what was on his iPod?"

...Stormy Weather, of course!

Jimi Hendrix: "The Wind Cries Mary"

What was on his iPod? Really?!?!? Everyone know it's Windy.

That is a Shock, the dude was hot.

[quote]What was on his iPod?

Duh!

I knew he was gay, didn’t doubt it for a minute!

I love how we always hear that the dead or the imprisoned or the get away driver must have "fell in with a bad crowd."

I'm sure that the loved ones or family members of another "bad crowd" participant also feel that their precious angel fell in with a bad crowd too. It's always the other guys who are bad influences.

Gag me.

The Dream Boat is the Death Ship!

[quote] People with those type of eyes always scared me. As a toddler I assumed they were wooden dolls........Eyes like gat are nothing but bad news ........Most suicide cases have the same vacant look

Who let the Creepy Little Girl into this thread? There's nothing wrong with the guy's eyes. It's a normal selfie of a person with normal eyes.

[quote] The reason people take drugs is, because they feel guilt and shame for being who they are thanks to judgemental assholes who tell them for years and years that they are not normal and they should be ashamed of themselves"

And what about all the "normal" heterosexuals who are dropping dead from drugs? They are the majority of drug users. What guilt is driving them? What are they ashamed of?

R88 Whe are not talking about straight people..

Yes, R89, the person who was talking was talking about straight & gay people by saying "The reason PEOPLE take drugs..." Not "The reason GAY PEOPLE take drugs..."

Just another reason to stay away from gay cruise ship charters...or any cruise with an element of sex and too much partying. I was all ready to say what a shame. Instead I will say what an idiot!!

r90, you really think that gay people are the only group of people manipulated to feel shame and powerless?

This is why we can't have nice things...

[quote]And what about all the "normal" heterosexuals who are dropping dead from drugs? They are the majority of drug users. What guilt is driving them? What are they ashamed of?

If you really have to ask that question you don't really get what a world you are living in.

Childhood trauma from being sexually abused, orphans believing they are not worth loving and that's why they were abandoned, parents expecting their kids to follow in their footsteps and cutting them off if they want to be their own person, feeling like failures for not getting the approval from others they so desperately need, pressure to perform and be great at everything, race discrimination, religious upbringing (sex before marriage is shameful!) etc.

I live in the burbs and 99% of ODs are middle class people in their 20s who are described by parents and friends as wonderful people who had everything going for them "until a doctor prescribed pain pills for a minor injury and got my son/daughter addicted! Doctors and pharmaceutical companies killed my child!" The friends of the ODer, while agreeing that the ODer was a great person who was probably going to be a pediatrician (to help sick children!) or a brilliant politician (to help the poor and middle class), privately roll their eyes at the "doctor gave him/her serious pain pills for a minor injury/root canal" excuse.

There's far more partying than shame causing ODs.

[quote]I live in the burbs

I guess that makes you an expert on what's going on in the burbs which, apparently, represents everybody else in the world so nothing else can be in play without you being aware of from your life in the burbs and your extensive personal knowledge from each and every individual drug overdose case in your area.

I dont like drugs, i only tried once but not was for me...

[quote]There's far more partying than shame causing ODs.

And we are right back at "why do people have to take drugs and drink alcohol in order to have fun at a party?" see r39.

I'm in flyover country (opiate overdose country) and what r95 writes is spot on.

I agree with the poster upstream who said that people do drugs because they feel good. They do. I know that, eventually, addicts do drugs just to feel normal, but, initially, If they didn't feel good, people wouldn't do them. I love how they make me feel, crack in particular, which has a ghetto reputation, and I don't know why. It is expensive, and the high is the best ever. I don't do it often, though, to prevent addiction, but, hell, every few months, it is a great high. I do need to stop even doing it casually, though, and I will. At some point, you stop craving that feeling.

Porn star Dirk Caber also a casualty of this drug-fuelled orgy ocean voyage. He contracted "pneumonia" and had to crawl off at San Juan for treatment.

And the FBI is on the case!

I have a friend on that cruise and he said drugs are everywhere. Several people already arrested. This guy died of GHB overdose.

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Good !!! I hope the FBI shuts that shit down!!! Been going on too long, he is not the only person to have died while on one of those Atlantis Cruises!!! I hope they go after Rich Campbell's ass for sweeping this shit under the rug for so many years !!! Typical Hollywood "A" Gay Profiteer !!!!!!

Porn whore Dirk Caber was on the same cruise with this equally creepy porn whore husband and Dirk got pneumonia. This cruise sounds like a nasty cesspit of drugs and disease.

Well, Guess old Jesse and Dirk aren't quite the happy and healthy couple they like to portray themselves as in the media, of course, we already knew Dirk was a big old raging bareback cumdump.

Be careful what you wish for. Miss Jefferson Beauregard's snooping into louche homosexual goings-on isn't going to be good for the gays.

These weren't mere gays R107 these party skanks were the much-exalted A-Gays...a class unto themselves.

I feel bad for Dirk, he keeps having these health setbacks, seems back in April he had an problem too, wonder if that was a result of a steroid injection done with a dirty needle?

yes i read about this, too much ghb. stay away from drugs!!!

i will never go on a cruise. so disgusting. so many viruses.

It's starting to sound like Dirk's issues were more related to his mental health than his physical health.

Feedback from some of the other passengers is the whole cruise is shitstorm !!

Please, That cruise had no chance of being anything but a shitstorm the instant Nick Moretti came aboard.

How could Joel Taylor get involved with a bunch of slutty skanks? Just nasty!

Fame is the worst drug.

R114 - poor Nick Moretti. On his FB post, he let his many followers know of his cruise heartbreak: a guy ODed and died, the food was terrible, there was no alumni event, the times of scheduled activities were wrong...But, at least the people who didn’t die were fun to be with.

Is this why they hate us.. this question to the "hate us troll"?

I have taken too much GHB ended up in ICU because they didn't know why I was unconscious - I guess threw up in my sleep which I am guessing how people die. Lucky for me I was on my side and my partner called 911 when he could not wake me up.

The poor guy should have been taken to the ship's medical bay for an evaluation.

Nick Moretti? There's not enough PrEP in the world for that. Jesus, what was this thing, a floating orgy?

Nick Moretti seems.. lovely.

"Yes, someone overdosed and died. Very tragic and sad. Yes, the food is absolutely disgusting (even worse than any Carnival cruise I’ve been on)... That said. We’re having a good time with friends as everyone we see seems to be as well. In the end... that’s what We came for."

I watched Storm Chasers when it aired, and Joel seemed like the last person in the world I would imagine seeing on the dance floor on a gay cruise. I didn't get any gay vibes watching him on Storm Chasers. Reed Timmer seemed like more of a drama queen than Joel. Storm chasers spend their time traveling and staying in small towns in the Bible Belt. Doesn't seem like a very comfortable environment for someone who's gay. I read online that his funeral is going to be at a Baptist church in his hometown of Elk City, Oklahoma. I wonder if he was out to his family and friends. I guess if you're 38, single and not dating girls, it should be obvious. He probably felt trapped in conservative Oklahoma, and the cruise was his chance to escape and be free.

Who is Nick Moretti and why should we be listening to him/reading his Facebook page??? Is he someone of importance in the community?

Nick Moretti runs Dark Alley Media aka Treasure Island Media 2.0.

What's that r125??

Poor guy. I'm a pretty quiet, low key gay guy with a lot of internalized self loathing due to a small town upbringing and family that does not condone homosexuality and I have dreamt of going on one of these cruises cuz it sounds like freedom. I'd probably od on something too. I feel bad for him. Some guys would feel like a kid in a candy store. I'm wondering how long he had been out. Very sad.

Joel Taylor chased Danger. And he got it.

I saw his partner tweet about him dying, and the responses were people asking the cause of death and then twitter cops chastising them for their morbid curiousity. Someone said “We’ll find out when they want us to know.”

“ODd on GHB” was certainly not the answer I was expecting.

After consuming all that GHB, did he request a chaser?

I've been finding it harder and harder to meet guys who don't do drugs, and this thread seems to indicate why. People so casual about their use - ecstasy, Coke, crack, GHB, etc. Isn't there anyone who can find enjoyment in life without the aid of substances?

They're both seriously sketchy bareback porn companies R126.

From R62's post link.

[quote]or buys there own weed

Oh deary, deary dear, dear.

R63's link dammit.

[quote]He died having fun. We should all be so lucky.

Yes! I want to be like Joel.

"They do it for the umbrellas, the gayest accessory. "

That's the funniest thing I've read here in awhile.

r130 "Yes, a Dark & Stormy, according to Isaac, your bartender."

I ordered one in Cape May, NJ and almost threw up. That is one nasty drink. I said to the bartender, "Can I ask you a question?" and he replied "Yes, I'm married." What I wanted to know what sort of shit was in that drink.

Holy Shit! I stop following this story for a couple of days and now I find out Joel Taylor was gay, on an Atlantis Cruise where he OD'd on GHB, some porn guys were on the cruise too!

[quote] I said to the bartender, "Can I ask you a question?" and he replied "Yes, I'm married." What I wanted to know what sort of shit was in that drink. Like I would give that ugly fuck a second glance.

LMAO. Threads about dead gays really bring out the best in you bitches.

Although he had a bit of "gay face" in his most recent photos, he didn't give off a gay vibe when he was on "Storm Chasers." He was the easy-going, lanky boy next door from small-town Oklahoma. He seemed more like the type of guy who would get wasted on cheap beer while watching college basketball and listening to country music than the type who would be doing GHB while dancing to club music and Olivia Newton-John on a gay cruise. I'll bet he struggled reconciling his conservative, religious upbringing in rural Oklahoma with his sexuality. As a tall, handsome, "straight-acting" guy who'd had a hint of TV fame, he was probably very popular with the other guys on the cruise, and they would have given him anything he wanted. Sadly, he took it a step too far.

It is literally impossible to OD on GHB. It is a fucking carbohydrate. If you ingest too much you vomit, you pass out, you don't die. Everyone has GHB in their body. It is a naturally occurring carbohydrate in our bodies. It is popular among muscle marys because you get drunk without consuming calories. I have taken WAY too much G once and ended up in the ICU - only because they could not figure out what was wrong with me. I was unconscious, normal brain function but they could not wake me up. Because I took too much and was in a deep fucking sleep. I was checked out the next day - walked out of the hospital embarrassed but perfectly fine. To take a lethal dose of GHB you would have to force fed it because if you take too much, again your body vomits it out. The worse that can happen is a deep unrousable sleep. Stop demonizing GHB. It is no worse than alcohol.

R126, have you ever heard of the google?

R141 Uh, people do die from consuming too much alcohol.

Isn't GHB also some sort of roofie drug where you get unconscious?

I remember both Queer as Folks had storylines of characters taking too much GHB and one of them dies and in the other version he survives.

Did the "Love Boat" ever do an overdose storyline?

R141 why are trying to sugar coat your own brush with death.

So these gay cruises are basically floating drug dens??? GURL.

r146 not sugar coating it -- it was my own dumb mistake but I was never in danger of dying. Ever. I got violently ill, that was my body getting rid of it. This happened in California. The doctor knew I took something but it was untraceable...because it was a carbohydrate...

GHB depresses breathing. Yes, people die from ingesting too much-- but too much isn't much

R141, so how did Taylor die? Too many carbs?

I am going on an RSVP cruise next month. Wish me luck, boys.

r150 autopsy will tell you that - he was carried off the dance floor for taking too much ghb and they left him in his room. They also found coke and ecstasy. I am just telling you as a person who has taken too much GHB and used it before my experience. To give you an idea I accidentally ingested a weeks worth of G (basically I mixed up the bottles). Literally 7x a big dose or about 35 mls. Nothing was administered to me other than being intubated and hooked up to an ekg u ntil i woke up. They tested me for everything but could find no trace of drugs in my system so they assumed I had some sort of siezure. I slowly realized what I did but was not going to tell them because GHB is scheduled and i was in California. They wanted to keep me for a few more days but I refused and checked out. I asked the doctor if I was ever at risk of dying and he told me no, my bp, heartrate, ekg and pulse ox all showed normal. Other than being unable to wake me up which GHB will do to you it puts you in deep rem sleep. I think it is being pushed as the cause of death because all they know is he took too much was falling asleep on the dance floor.

I sort of knew him being in the meteorology field and that being my profession. Joel was out to most who knew him, but he rarely would bring it up. He had family that wasn't happy about it but his friends didn't care. Ironically when I first met Reed I thought he was gay, lol. Joel was just laid back and very cool. We discussed the whole why so many gays in meteorology too. I personally know at least six other meteorologists who are gay, one very famous in Chicago. Drama, anticipation, making maps with pretty colors and dirty shapes, and getting awesome suits, who knows....

[quote]he was carried off the dance floor for taking too much ghb and they left him in his room.

Anyone who did this and didn't call a doctor should be charged with manslaughter. This is disgraceful behavior.

r141 is apparently unaware that an overdose of GHB can cause a fatal heart attack. It can also cause respiratory depression, and its effects are amplified when combined with another depressant such as alcohol. Or cocaine. Or heroin. When your lungs and respiratory system are functioning improperly it can lead to death.

You can overdose and die on anything if you ingest enough. Water or sugar come to mind as examples of seemingly innocuous substances that can kill you.

R152, You were either lucky or the intubation saved you.

There's another thread out there right now about people who prefer solitude, who have never been in a long-term relationship, and how f'ed up they supposedly are.

That pretty much describes me: a reasonably well-educated, reasonably successful, not promiscuous eldergay who has never smoked, drinks two gin and tonics a week if he's on a real bender, and has never used recreational narcotics.

And after having perused this very sad and scary thread, about a lot of very sad and scary men, feels rather good about himself right about now.

[quote] I personally know at least six other meteorologists who are gay, one very famous in Chicago.

Wouldn't you think they'd be cooler with cock roaches

AND another thing (usually it's the ONLY thing for most of you screamers, even though it took 159 posts to get to this time around):

Was Taylor a top or a bottom?

I'm with you, R157.

And what an embarrassing way to die.

[quote]People with those type of eyes always scared me. As a toddler I assumed they were wooden dolls........Eyes like gat are nothing but bad news ........Most suicide cases have the same vacant look.

JESUS….this fucking guy. Do you remember the actual day that you turned into your mother or was it gradual?

^^^LMAO

[quote]The worse that can happen is a deep unrousable sleep. Stop demonizing GHB.It is no worse than alcohol..

Are we “Demonizing” GHB or the overuse of drugs in our community by people who should know better? This guy was in his 30s and not some teenager.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a square or an innocent. This is tragic blahblabha, but it also happens ALL THE TIME. I’m really surprised at the amount of coverage this is getting--not from the gay media of course because ..a hot guy overdosed--but it’s kinda everywhere, and I’m not sure if that’s a good thing--especially in this political climate. I mean…..the war on drugs has been a joke for quite some time, but we now have wall to wall, OPENLY fascist assholes running things. I hope they don’t use this to further their agendas.

Did he get the coke from Olivia?!

^ All I know is that he got the weed from Chloe!

The problem with such events (White Party) and gay cruises is that the patrons "make up for lost time" by throwing themselves into having fun like Asian tourists need to take pictures from every single damn thing (or film everything) so they can relive their vacation trip over and over when they are back home and working for the rest of the year.

People don't think clearly or they overestimate themselves when they go from repressed mode to "party like there's no tomorrow" mode. Drugs are available and there is also a bit of peer pressure happening not wanting to be a "stick in the mud" or still having some "stick up your ass" and being the one wh cannot let loose and have fun like everybody else.

Drugs or cupious amounts of alcohol are not necessary to have fun, but like with steroids in the body building industry, it gets you quicker in the mood you want to be.

This story is sad in so many ways. And it's unfortunate that it will end up reinforcing gay stereotypes when it should be shattering them. From all accounts, Joel was a nice, laid-back guy, and his life should be seen as an example that gays come in all varieties and can be found everywhere, even in small-town Oklahoma. But I imagine that some of Joel's conservative relatives are now thinking to themselves, "He was such a nice boy until he got in with the wrong crowd (read: gay people)." Joel's funeral will be at a Southern Baptist church that probably thinks all gay people are an abomination. And people who didn't know Joel and never saw him on "Storm Chasers" will just assume that he was a drugged-out party boy -- another example of how gays just like to party, have sex and do drugs.

Hopefully it won’t make people think that he was a druggie or party boy, but that it will just reinforce how popular and dangerous drugs still are in the world, even amongst otherwise healthy, normal, working professionals. It’s a very sad story. Bless his family.

Well, one would think that this wouldn't happen to someone who can handle is drugs. So I imagine he was a newbie and paid with his life.

R157 at risk of sounding like a drug-addled mess, what do you do for fun? How do you address that craving for adventure?

Any word on Dirk Caber's condition? Is he still in a Puerto Rican hospital? I'd mentioned Dirk and his husband as seeming well-adjusted on a recent "happy porn stars" thread. Guess I was wrong about that - fighting on the ship, Facebook suicide notes, and drinking and drugging until you need hospitalization don't fit the "happy porn star" image.

Nothing to see people! Just a little unfortunate "chemical accident" happened to Dirk Caber...

I imagine Joel's funeral will consist of a lot of embarrassed looking down at the floor, euphemistic avoidance, and coded hate speech from the pulpit.

He should have just said NO.

r163 it has been demonized for a long time by big Pharma. You used to buy it at the vitamin shop. It was considered a supplement. Bodybuilders used it for recovery because it produced a deep rem sleep, the kind where muscle repaired and grew. People liked it because it could give you the same buzz as a couple of drinks but not the same calories as alcohol wore off in a couple of hours and was cheap. GHB is a naturally occurring substance in your body. It is not toxic to the brain or blood. Big Pharma had to demoize it the only way they know how. Blame it on a death. Enter in Samantha Reid. Samantha was a teenager who died mysteriously at a party. She came home from a party went to sleep and died. Toxicology showed nothing. Later *much * the doctors reported finding trace amounts of GHB in her body. Suddenly a story was constructed of her drinking "something" at the party. GHB was blamed for her death and her mother started a crusade against it. She wanted it banned, it killed her baby. Except it didn't. GHB ingested converts to oxygen and water in the body in a couple hours. The time between her "drinking" the mystery drink and coming home was several hours and no one reported her being groggy or passing out, something associated with a large dose of GHB. Big Pharma was all to happy to push the scheduling of it. It was placed in the same catagory as heroin. It is unprecidented to schedule a carb. Oh and guess who turned around and took it and use it as a miracle drug to treat narcolepsy? Xyrem is it's commercial name. Can you take too much of anything? Yes.

A lot of GHB and alcohol is a dangerous combination. Drugs can be fun, but you can't be stupid about it.

You all mock me, but you know I was right.

Just. Say. No.

It's sad , why do we insist on self destruction ? HIV is not our primary enemy anymore.

[quote]why do we insist on self destruction ?

r178, because some of us grew up with the belief that being gay is bad and that belief messes some gay people up (I like this, but I am not supposed to like this, because it's bad! What to do?). That internal struggle messes people up. When you believe you are doing something bad (even when it feels right to you) you feel guilty and ashamed and that's when you look for all sorts of self destructive punishments.

R152 Quit demonizing GHB! Come on! It's totally safe. I mean, you just get intubated and have your irregular heartbeat monitored while you're unconscious if you take too much, but it's not like it's dangerous or even fatal or anything.

Oh, Mary...

I'm amazed at the thought of 5,479 homosexuals together on this one ship.

Nancy Reagan in R174, get back to your tomb, NOW!

[quote] Stop demonizing GHB.It is no worse than alcohol..

R170:

I'm a newspaper reporter. So I'm either in the middle of an adventure - or on the fringes of one - at least every seven to 10 days or so.

The reason gays take drugs is because they lack adequate risk-assessment skills. Most circuit party queens only know they must ape all behavior they see to be accepted. Most make it out if they ever grow up, but lots don't. Pity.

[quote] And people who didn't know Joel and never saw him on "Storm Chasers" will just assume that he was a drugged-out party boy -- another example of how gays just like to party, have sex and do drugs.

OR maybe he was a drugged-out party boy? Why is that not an option?

I’m sure your heart’s in the right place R175 but honestly, you’re getting kinda’ weird about this. Of course, moderation is essential for anything but to say that people are exaggerating about the effects of GHB on the gay community seems...willfully ignorant? I was trying to think of something less harsh because I’m not trying to be offensive.

[quote]The reason gays take drugs is because they lack adequate risk-assessment skills. Most circuit party queens only know they must ape all behavior they see to be accepted. Most make it out if they ever grow up, but lots don't. Pity.

OR they just like getting fucked up, dancing and having orgies. Does lack of inhibitions ALWAYS have to be a subconscious cry for help?

Have any of you even ever tried ghb? Jesus. Ephedra - which is an herb and asprin combined was an over the counter weight loss supplement that helped you burn fat and suppress your appetite. It's banned now because some dumb ass took like 50 of them drank red bull and decided to do cardio for 2 hours then his heart exploded. What was the headline? "Ephedra kills healthy man.." and boom it got banned. Kratom, a plant from the coffee family, is a successful substitute for opiods and can help heroin addicts get off heroin. It is cheap, and natural and guess what starts showing up? Stories of Kratom deaths. These are natural safe remedies that are being controlled and scheduled because of scare tactics like this. GHB overdose kills Storm Chaser.

r186 and what exactly are the effects of GHB on the gay community? It's just like saying 'Vodka OD kills Storm Chaser' I am not being weird about it. It is a suppliment (not a drug) that can help a lot of people but because it is falsely blamed for deaths it is demonized. How many people have died due to drunk drivers or died from lung cancer? Yet you don't see Gin and Cigarettes showing up on the same list as heroin do you?

[quote] OR maybe he was a drugged-out party boy? Why is that not an option?

Of course it IS an option, but if you had watched Joel on "Storm Chasers" or seen his Facebook page (I assume you've done neither) you would realize it is not a likely option. He didn't fit the "gay party boy" mold. It seems far more likely that gay cruises and GHB were new (or relatively new) to him and that he it took it all too far. Yes, he was a 38-year-old man who made some stupid choices and should have known better. And he paid the price with his life. But I'm not sure why you seem so invested in portraying him as someone who liked "getting fucked up, dancing and having orgies." Why do you assume that his behavior on the cruise was typical of his everyday behavior?

"Storm Chaser Joel Taylor dies"

Is this the fate of the Stormy Daniels chaser?

R80, you're killing me. That is mean but genius.

The straight media are covering up the fact that Joel Taylor died on a GAY cruise.

I'm watching Storm Chasers on demand. He and Reed fight a lot.

I was actually surprised that People mentioned that it was an all-gay cruise.

But yeah, most sites are omitting the fact that it was gay or that he was gay.

Of course people are now trying to blame Atlantis for the fact that people take drugs on their cruises.

R193 Reed is a COMPLETE spazz! He would be a lot to handle for anyone.

Actually 2 people died on that cruise, but the other one was very old. Dirk was back on board later that night, so I find the "pneumonia" suspect.

I can kind of understand the outcry against Atlantis. They tell you not to bring drugs but know lots of people do. The ship has a duty to provide medical care, but I'd consider overdosing on drugs you brought from home to be above and beyond.

And if Atlantis suddenly start recognizing that they need "Drug overdose trained" staff, then that opens them up to liability. Its kind of like the old legal metaphor of the drowning baby at the beach: you have no duty to save a drowning baby, so you can sit back and watch without liability, but as soon as you rush into the water and tell someone, "I'll save her," you open yourself up to what happens if you aren't able to. If you give someone the antidote to a drug they are not taking and adverse effects occur, then that becomes YOUR problem. I can see why they would prefer to stay out of this.

Atlantis is not providing anyone drugs. It shows an astounding lack of personality responsibility to try to blame other people for your drug use.

Atlantis does not provide drugs , but they facilitate an environment were drug use is the norm and encouraged. You think those porn stars pay full price for those tickets ? Think again they are either comped or they pay a reduced fave ( based of course on their "hotness") .

It's appalling how many of you guys look at ODing on GHB as a rite of passage and something to be proud of . An I thought bug chasing was bad .

It's time to look beyond the thin veneer of marketing and call these event out for the harm they cause. Atlantis makes no effort to prevent and even more importantly they do nothing to monitor the crowd and assist people who OD. The leave that up to the "friends" to take care of . Joel Taylor would still have been alive if Atlantis stepped up to the plate and said , yeah we know people are going to do drugs and we have a harm reduction /overdose mitigation plan in place to handle this .

[quote] Joel Taylor would still have been alive if...

He hadn't decided to take a ton of GHB.

This reminds me how in the wake of the Vegas shooting the first thing people wanted to do was blame the Hotels.

I'm surprised that instagays are still advertising these types of cruises

Dylan must have invested thousands in specialized liposuction to get those abs . They look weird

Ever notice how Olivia Cruise ladies come home alive.

the Atlantis Cruise was such an amazing experience!

I mean this is a job for them, those instagays gotta promote Atlantis on their social media.

"the Atlantis Cruise was such an amazing experience!" yeah because you did not DIE choking on your vomit alone in your room

[QUOTE] Atlantis does not provide drugs , but they facilitate an environment were drug use is the norm and encouraged. You think those porn stars pay full price for those tickets ?

What's the connection you are making -- that porn stars bring all the drugs on board?

[quote]Of course it IS an option, but if you had watched Joel on "Storm Chasers" or seen his Facebook page (I assume you've done neither) you would realize it is not a likely option. He didn't fit the "gay party boy" mold. It seems far more likely that gay cruises and GHB were new (or relatively new) to him and that he it took it all too far.

If you had seen Storm Chasers or his FB page, you'd probably be surprised to discover he was even on a gay cruise, yet...

I have a few friends who were on the cruise and though we haven’t talked yet, I got an email from one saying how fabulous it was and how much love he has for the gay community. He said it was very diverse with old, young, fat, muscled, skinny, every race. Don’t know if he and his hubby were doing drugs but they had a fabulous time.

R207 how naive are you ? How do think porn stars get through the day ?

From Dylan Handy at R201's link:

[quote] To say this cruise was anything less than spectacular would be an understatement. A huge thanks to making this experience an unforgettable time for us all. The positive vibes and love felt on the boat was something special.

Well, yeah, sure. If you overlook a few deaths scattered through the week . . . .

[quote] To new and old friendships formed, this is just the beginning. I Will cherish these moments with each of you for the rest of my life

Good lord, Mary. Get a grip. Dylan sounds like some high school Becky.

[quote]Atlantis does not provide drugs , but they facilitate an environment were drug use is the norm and encouraged.

[quote]It's time to look beyond the thin veneer of marketing and call these event out for the harm they cause. Atlantis makes no effort to prevent and even more importantly they do nothing to monitor the crowd and assist people who OD. The leave that up to the "friends" to take care of . Joel Taylor would still have been alive if Atlantis stepped up to the plate and said , yeah we know people are going to do drugs and we have a harm reduction /overdose mitigation plan in place to handle this .

If THAT’S the case, so does a goddamn 7-11 parking lot. Do they promote that they allow drug use? Are there designated areas for people to smoke meth?

What happened to personal responsibility? Now businesses have to make sure that grown-ass people don’t overdo it on the illegal narcotics that they sneak in? Increasing the costs of everything?

Are you high?

How come nobody has posted any shirtless pics. Beautiful body.

This ER doc who was on the cruise feels like Atlantis is actually too anti-drugs. They had drug dogs that arrested some people at boarding, and warn that anyone caught with drugs will be detained, arrested and removed. That environment makes people scared to seek help.

Dr Travis Cosban is hot.

He’s not even a board certified doctor- he’s a resident. I would hope there would have been a (more) qualified physician on board

Dr Cosban works for the cruise line and of course will make a ridiculous statement about them being "too anti drug" jesus were you fuckers born yesterday ?

Travis does not work for Atlantis, he was there as a passenger, not the physician on board.

I don't know what the fuck some of you are talking about. but you obviously didn't read the link.

He isn't defending Atlantis, he is blaming them, he said if they stopped the culture of fear and made it clear people wouldn't get in trouble for coming to them about overdoses Joel might still be alive.

R218 I pay 2k for cruise tickets and I am worried about a "culture of fear " ????? LMAO !!! Whatever

Looks like Rich Campbell is trying to dodge bullets

West Hollywood property records indicate that Steven B Krumholz is connected to a business consulting service, Steven Krumholz Consulting and a cruise booking travel agency. Sbk (Steven Barry Krumholz) Travel both located at 3415 Grand View Blvd, Los Angeles, California.

On Facebook, Krumholz is friends with Atlantis Events owner Rick Campbell, perphaps something Campbell is regretting at this point in time. Campbell has been the head of Atlantis Events since 1990

very sad, rest in peace. I am not surprised he died of an overdose of drugs on a gay cruise.

[quote]I'm amazed at the thought of 5,479 homosexuals together on this one ship.

Mama Mia, that's a lotta homos.

How sad.

Um where do they keep bodies on the ship?

There'll be an autopsy?

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R225 they also use Ketamine in people as a surgery anesthetic.

I have never used it, and do not want to. I have friends who were into going to raves or live music events and they would snort it or inject it into their muscles. The one friend told me how it basically puts you into a whole other reality and it's not like tripping on acid or mushrooms since apparently on Ketamine you forget you are on a drug.

I feel sorry for him, not.

Drugging and fucking on an all gay cruise. And he dies of an overdose of illegal drugs. Not tragic, just stupid.

I am intrigued by the Joel Taylor case. It shows us how anyone can have a double life. I was very sad to hear about television's "Storm Chasers" star passing away in late January 2018 at age 38. He was a handsome, 6' 6", 234 pound man with a smooth beautifully muscled body. He also had the biggest hard cock I have ever seen. It pointed to the ceiling. He was a small town country boy who in all appearances was a right wing conservative Christian from an Oklahoma Baptist family. He is remembered in all comments I've read from family and friends as a classy, kind, and caring person, always willing to help in the community. He was "macho" in demeanor but had a hidden side that was not revealed until his death. He was an amazingly endowed gay man with a very overactive libido that he indulged on cruises and island vacations. . He posted sexy pictures and stats on a gay social media site called Scruff. Instead of chasing storms he spent his last days chasing other gay men on a Caribbean cruise ship, the Harmony of the Seas. This ship was chartered by Atlantis Tours for a gay men's cruise. On the cruise, as one of the tallest men on the ship, he would have been one of the main alpha male tops. I bet there is a group of guys scattered across the country who were on the cruise who hooked up with him and wound up with loose anal sphincters and his DNA still inside them, He probably was exhausted from the round the clock pounding holes and pumping his baby batter. He apparently wanted to be like the Energizer bunny and keep going and going. It was originally thought he died from an overdose of GHB , an anti-sleep medication used in low doses for sexual stamina. It has a Viagra type effect providing lasting erections. As probably the biggest guy on the ship his “weather probe” would have been very much in demand. The final autopsy report revealed it was an overdose of Ecstasy. He must have taken too high a dose and it was too much for his system. He collapsed on the dance floor and was taken back to his cabin by "friends" to sleep it off. It was a permanent sleep. It is a big mistake to leave anyone in that condition alone, which the so-called "friends" did. My condolences to his family.

Joel Taylor's amazing "weather probe". Another one of his Scruff photos showed him in a black spiked mask. He apparently dabbled in S & M. Interestingly enough the Storm Chaser vehicle was named "The Dominator" possibly by Joel. He was a good old country boy when clothed but when the clothes came off and his "flagpole" was raised he was the dominator of whoever he was with. I wonder how many anal canals he stretched to the max!

Storm Chaser Joel Taylor and "The Dominator" vehicle.

R78 So he was closeted. A closet case that thought weather watchers wouldn't accept a homosexual chasing tornadoes.

Fuck him

What a loss. Joel is what I consider alpha male perfection. Amazing body and an amazing monster cock. He sure used both to pleasure many.

Monster Cock! I hope somebody cloned Joel.

He looked like Aaron Rodgers to me.

Bump

Why are most 'out' homosexuals on drugs?

Well Anderson Cooper is drug free. He does not even drink!

And he's such a bore!!!

Porn stars seem to bring drugs and death everywhere they go.