Government is shutting down!

Trump really wants to go to that party tomorrow. And get some golfing in.

Presidenting is no fun!

Since the Government has not worked in the past year, I guess nothing will change then.

Shumer and McConnell just walked off the floor to discuss...They may vote again.

There goes my early tax refund.

R2, what changes is that a shitload of things that were happening despite the horrible governance of the GOP will now shut down and millions of people will not get paid. Keep this going long enough and this will hurt the entire country.

Shit, R4, the last time I looked at the IRS site a few days ago, several of the tax forms I need were the 2016 versions.

Poor senate interns are tired and sleepy.

That prospect reminds me of what Dorothy Parker said when told that "Silent Cal" Coolidge had died:

"How can they tell? "

Relax, R5. I get that. It was a joke. You must be a blast at parties.

Shut the thing DOWN!

Let the country hurt. Particularly the Midwest. They fucked us all voting for this asshole. Let them starve.

Republicans desperately tried to pretend that Democrats were responsible. It didn't work.

"JUST IN: #TrumpShutdown becomes top trending hashtag worldwide."

Only the second time in history that a shutdown has occurred with one party controlling Congress and the White House. The last time was 40 years ago, under President Carter.

cunts!!!!!!!!!

Press Secretary just called the Democratic senators "losers". Oy. Senators are still talking with vote still open. Trump is MIA of course until he tweets bullshit in a few hours.

Is OT golfing or eating?

Democratic senators need to call Press Secretary "fat ugly pig."

Will the interstates be open tomorrow?

Chris Matthews called it best: 'Shithole Shutdown'.

How will black people get their welfare?

R20: or white people get theirs?

One things for sure. It's critical corporations get theirs R19, R20

McConnell voted "no" - finally

Yea - 50, Nay - 49

McConnell wants to reconsider the vote.

McConnell is scum. I wish that fucker would just stroke out live on television.

Now, McConnell is waxing poetic about how the shutdown is the all Democrats fault...

I hope someone shoots McConnell in his neck wattle!

Good - Schumer is speaking truth!

Apparently McConnell had to vote no as a "procedural vote?" I don't understand that.

[quote]McConnell is speaking on the Senate floor now. He called this shutdown "100 percent avoidable" and "a cynical decision of Senate Democrats."

He's such a fucking asshole.

The Democrats voted against children's healthcare to show support for illegals. People affected aren't going to care about Schumer's spin.

You mean Children's HealthCare that should have been done last year that Repubs wouldn't do?

Unfortunately, r30 is probably right.

R30 is not right, R32. What's the matter with you?

Schumer's remarks are really good and people who need CHIP know exactly who has been holding up funding for this program. It isn't Democrats. Spin it all you want, Deplorables, but it won't work.

R33 Borscht does funny things to a person's brain when it's all they get to eat.

Exactly, R34.

Republicans could pass CHIP funding as a standalone bill. Dems have been begging them to do so since last summer.

Notice how R30 and R32 have no other comments?

Tells you all you need to know.

I have R30 on block. Which means two things - Trumpanzee or viciously hates a group of people

Schumer spoke truth! Blasted Trump!

Now - McConnell is speaking bullshit yet again... I guess this back and forth argument will continue all night!

I had to mute Mitch McConnell. He is so nasty quoting Trump's puerile and offensive letter along with the rest of his mendacity!

R30, they won't care about Schumer's spin, but they will care about Trump jetting off to Mar-A-Lago to party.

“I’m the best negotiator. That’s what I do. I make the best deals. I will make the best deals and force the Washington elite to makes deals for the American people and not for special interests. Only I can do this because it’s what I do. The best deals you’ve ever seen. “ —August 11, 2016

Can we kill a Russian for every minute the government is shut down? It would pass the time and the world would benefit enormously.

2013: "You have to be a leader. The president has to lead."

Trump’s STOU address will be a spectacle this year. lol

Watch him refuse to give it.

The government's shut down, so I'm on vacation!

How do you think this Government Shutdown will affect the Women's March this weekend? Good or Bad?

[quote]You're such a filthy bitch

Thanks for the compliment cunt

R46 It will invigorate the anti-Trump movement for sure.

Schumer and Trump meeting: eating McDonald's Fillet O'Fishies, sharing extra large fries, all washed down with Diet Cokes on ice. That's it. Conversation per topic will never happen.

According to the NYT McConnell voted no? Doug Jones voted yes? What am I missing

how about they shut down everyone's fucking salaries until they do their god damn jobs for the american people????

they all act like 5 year olds.... except for the child molesters who like 5 year olds....and they are ugly old men

No R49: On Friday, Schumer gave Trump another bipartisan deal that included his fucking wall. Trump said he liked it then backed out again a few hours later... Trump is the fuck-up here.

R50 see R28.

I know I missing something obvious with these votes. Did Jones vote yes and McConnell no?

Pathetic about how McConnell was going on and on about how hurt the American people will be with a govt shutdown....yet had no problem shutting the govt down under Obama

R50, a few Dems voted yes including Jones. Basicalky all Dems from red states. And a few Republicans voted no including Jeff Flake.. Mitch voted no because of procedure.

In order for him to bring the issue back up for a vote, McConnell, as Majority Leader, has to vote no.

Thanks, R57.

What's with the 5 Dems who voted yes? I thought there was supposed to be a united front?

Tammy Baldwin voted against the military and federal employees continuing to be paid. That will be in some ads during her run for re-election.

They're all running for re-election in red states. Schumer allowed them to vote for it to give them cover. That way their Repuke opponents can't use their vote against them (theoretically).

[quote]I had to mute Mitch McConnell. He is so nasty quoting Trump's puerile and offensive letter along with the rest of his mendacity!

Me too, plus his voice is so annoying. ugh

Will this affect food stamps? What about the mail?

Lindsey explaining her vote against the continuing resolution: "I am not going to support continuing this fiasco for 30 more days."

Girl has had it!

Does the shutdown mean that ICE will put their program of tearing families apart on hold for now?

It's all about DACA, just wait. They're not voting on the "Rights for the People"; they are bargaining and trading future 'insurance riders' to existing policies.

[quote] how about they shut down everyone's fucking salaries until they do their god damn jobs for the american people????

[quote]JUST IN: Group of Senate Democrats introduce bill to withhold congressional pay during government shutdown: “If members of Congress can’t figure this out and keep the government open, then none of us should get paid.” — Sen. Claire McCaskill

[quote]He called this shutdown "100 percent avoidable"

McConnell is correct. Had he and Ryan been willing to put the previously-negotiated bipartisan solution to a vote, it would have easily passed in both chambers, with full support from the Democrats.

[quote]How do you think this Government Shutdown will affect the Women's March this weekend?

It won't affect it at all.

[quote]The Democrats voted against children's healthcare to show support for illegals. People affected aren't going to care about Schumer's spin.

LOL... Speaking of "spin." And genuinely pathetic spin at that. Sorry, chuckles, but it ain't gonna work that way.

The response to someone blaming the Democrats is to point out a few things:

1. There is a bipartisan bill that would easily pass both the House and Senate, with full Democratic cooperation, if Ryan and McConnell actually allowed the bill to come to the floor for a vote.

2. Republicans refused to negotiate with Democrats on the House bill that was just passed. And McConnell has refused to negotiate with Democrats in the Senate.

3. At the time Trump broke DACA, the Republicans insisted that they would fix this before this started hurting people. They didn't. They have repeatedly insisted that they want to fix this but there is no effort underway, and no plans for such an effort, to actually fix this. And no reason to believe that any such effort will take place in this election year.

4. Over 90% of Americans want CHIP funded and the DACA recipients to stay in the U.S.

Nice try, though.

With the attention on fake news, the NYT was compelled to go with facts.

LOL... Nice try, R71. Sorry to burst your bubble but Republicans own this. Sucks to be you.

And, of course, the headline on the New York Times site right now is: "Government Shuts Down; Talks Continue."

The trolls aren't really trying very hard tonight, are they? They've seen the polls, so they know who will be blamed.

It's the guy who blew up the negotiations last week, just days after he promised he'd sign whatever they delivered to him.

It's the leaders of the Senate and the House who are refusing to allow a bipartisan bill (that will easily pass) to be brought to the floor for a vote.

It's the leaders of the Senate and the House who are refusing to do what they promised to do months ago and what the overwhelming majority of American want: protect the people affected by Trump blowing up DACA.

It's the party in charge of the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.

Trolls are coming out in full force as R71 shows. No other posting history? Wow, the Borscht eaters are sending in their D-Team.

And despite massive attempts by the Russian Twitter bot army to blame Democrats, #TrumpShutdown is trending worldwide.

The only thing I want to hear coming of the mouth of elected Democrats right now is them pointing out that the GOP has the Presidency, Senate and House, and but still can't manage to keep basic government functioning. They should shut up about anything else.

Joy Ann Reid:

Ouch ... John Meacham with the hammer: "this is what government would look like without a president." #TrumpShutdown

Double ouch...

Doesn’t affect the post office

810 thousand tweets on #TrumpShutdown and it's continuing to climb. We should easily see over a million.

Jason Kander: "The President said he was going to run America like his businesses. Apparently we have reached the part where he would usually just declare bankruptcy and run away. "

TheMrJayBrown: "Mick Mulvaney described today how many government employees will still work, but they just won't be paid. Doing the work and not getting paid. So, again, exactly like how Trump ran his businesses."

[quote]Mark it. At 1:17 a.m. McConnell objected to taking a floor vote to continue military pay and benefits for the duration of the shutdown. #TrumpShutdown

"Just so we're clear on how we got to this point and whose fault it is."

5/2/17: Trump tweets "maybe we need a good shutdown."

9/5/17: Trump rescinds Dreamer protection and demands Congress find a fix.

10/24/17: Paul Ryan says he wants long-term spending deal to protect Dreamers.

12/21/17: Congress punts spending bill to January 19th, 2018.

12/21/17: McConnell promises a vote to protect Dreamers if the Senate comes up with a bipartisan proposal.

1/9/18: Trump says he'll "take the heat" to pass bipartisan proposal.

1/11/18: Trump rejects bipartisan proposal.

1/19/18: Republicans refuse to vote on bipartisan deal. Shithole Shutdown looms.

If they were to shut down for a year or two, and people had minor discomfort, then perhaps they would realize the bureaucrats are just useless parasites.

Community would be fine with the current laws and would thrive because of institutional stability.

R11

Starve?

Even if the federal government shut down and only continued paying Social Security taxes and some Medicaid bills, the world would not end and people would actually become more prosperous because they didn’t have to worry about stupid bullshit from government bureaucrats.

Trump is damaged and weak. He has approval ratings down in the shithole. No wonder Dems are not afraid of him.

R18

Yes the interstate will be open, unless parasitic government employees decide to block them off for refusing to pay them twice what they are worth in a private company.

Dear Idiot Libertarian Troll: do try to not be as stupid as you usually are. The laws and regulations do not end just because of this shutdown.

R30

Shutting down government assistance to children to support illegal aliens is not a winning strategy in the media.

It's the fucking Libertarian Troll. I thought he had died because I hadn't seen a post by him in so long.

Dear Idiot Libertarian Troll: it's already winning. Do try to keep up, won't you?

Protecting those affected by Trump's removal of DACA is something that the overwhelming majority of voters want, just as the overwhelming majority of voters want CHIP funding extended. Republicans promised both of these things. Democrats are holding them to their promises.

[quote]It's the fucking Libertarian Troll. I thought he had died because I hadn't seen a post by him in so long.

Oh, he's been around. He shows once or twice a week to vomit his drivel over a few threads and then he disappears again. One thing has not changed: he's still as ignorant as he was when he first started posting here years ago.

R55

Government shutdowns are just political theater. The vast majority of spending on welfare and warfare and spying is locked in.

When the government shuts down, it only shuts down the things that normal, average, every day people use – Like national parks and museums.

Speaking of bad optics:

Claire McCaskill (D-MO) just proposed a measure to guarantee military families get paid even during a #shutdown. McConnell objected, even after moralizing endlessly about the effect of a #GovernmentShutdown on military families

Must have triggered a snowflake. R89-r91 are invisible.

Socialists are so retarded.

LOL.... Don't you just love a drama queen who has to tell you who he's blocked?

Wouldn't the snowflake be the person who has blocked people?

Oh God R94. So you are back ignorant libertarian troll. LOL. Well you're stupidity is entertaining so please proceed with your conspiracy theories.

It's inevitable that someday the filibuster will be done away with. Trump should push now for the nuclear option for appropriations. The spin is that the GOP "controls" the Senate even though it's not true that they have 60 votes. They should take control and pass the bill to pay the military, build the wall, extend CHIP and abolish the medical device tax.

McConnell is refusing to allow a vote on a bipartisan bill that would pass and would end this nonsense, R98. Sounds like "control" to me.

Even better for Democrats is that Republicans are on record as *wanting* to do what Democrats are insisting they do. So Republicans are balking at passing a bill that they had previously insisted that they wanted to pass.

R98 is just trying to earn them rubles. No other posting history for it.

I tell you, those republicans love playing politics at every chance they get. Fuck them!

R98 is just trying to get some more beets for borscht.

R100 Republicans do NOT want to govern. They only want to gaslight, obstruct, and project.

McConnell filibustered his own damn bill back in 2012 because enough democrats were for it.

It's interesting to see how the trolls have come out. It tells you they're worried.

[quote]Trump should push now for the nuclear option for appropriations.

Oh, honey, he went to Mar-a-Lago hours ago.

[quote]The spin is that the GOP "controls" the Senate even though it's not true that they have 60 votes.

Correct, they had 45 votes. It seems there were a few defectors?

As long as 90% of federal government employees don’t get a paycheck while they are furloughed, I hope they shut the government down for the next three years.

R105

I’m a very patriotic American, I just realize that our government is evil and out of control and that shutting it down is the best option.

R107 what difference would it make? After those three years they'd get back pay for the entire three years.

Interesting that you felt the need to reply to that comment R108.

No, Idiot Libertarian Troll, you're not a "very patriotic American." You're just a fucking idiot, incapable of any rational thought.

Good. The government shutting down and people being put out is the only way a lot of people are going to learn and accept what trump is about

Most of them however are fucking idiots. They could become homeless, jobless, without health insurance and without any type of safety net and they would still support trump

America is full of a bunch of fucking idiots who are like small, stupid children. You tell them, don't touch the hot stove or you will get hurt. These fuckers all have to touch the hot stove (trump). Let them

[quote] Republicans do NOT want to govern. They only want to gaslight, obstruct, and project.

That's not true at all. We also want to gut the Food Stamp program, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare and every other safety net program. Plus we can't wait until we can turn over Social Security to Wall St.

Catching up with Twitter and I found this interesting: Quite a bit of reporting that Trump came to an agreement he could pretty much live with with Schumer, but subsequently that was undermined by Kelly and Miller, for whom the compromise wasn't *quite* Nazi enough. This seems to be partly at the root of Trump's reported vacillating and inconsistency of position. So, do we now have #PresidentKelly instead of #PresidentBannon?

Will this end daca?

R109 I am a federal employee and I hope you die real soon.

R116 I wasn't the one that said they hoped you would go three years without a salary. Learn to read. I was clarifying to the person who wanted you to suffer that you would get that money back retro'd.

Federal government shutting down? PLEASE let it stay shut down.

Erna, dear, please do try to stop being stupid for just 10 seconds, won't you? kthxbai

This is what one pundit said:

[quote]“Well, if you say who gets fired it always has to be the top,” Trump said. “I mean, problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president’s the leader. And he’s got to get everybody in a room and he’s got to lead.”

[quote]He said that further down in history, “when they talk about the government shutdown, they’re going to be talking about the president of the United States, who the president was at that time.”

[quote]“They’re not going to be talking about who was the head of the House, the head the Senate, who’s running things in Washington,” Trump said.

[quote]“So I really think the pressure is on the president,” he added.

That was Trump, of course, referring to the shutdown in 2013.

Pity the Republicans couldn’t separate CHIP so it could be passed and DACA could be debated on its own merits. separately. With the Republicans controlling the presidency, house, and senate, they could have done this if they’d wanted funding for CHIP to be passed. Guess they value their hatred for immigrants more than they value children”s healthcare.

Sad. Pass that delicious chocolate cake. That steak better be burnt.

[quote]Pity the Republicans couldn’t separate CHIP so it could be passed and DACA could be debated on its own merits.

Yup. Not to mention that the Republican leadership has repeatedly expressed support for both, insisting that they would pass these fixes. So Democrats are simply asking Republicans to do what they already said they wanted to do. And, of course, there's a bipartisan bill on the table that would do exactly that, and it would pass by a wide margin if Ryan and McConnell would allow it to come to the floor for a vote.

Right on, R123! Right the fuck on. They want to play this shit as if they have a fucking mandate. Those assholes do not have a fucking mandate, no matter how much they like to pretend their gerrymandering and voter suppression gives them one. 3 million voters say they don't have one and their monkey chattering his clever rhymes doesn't make it so.

Oh Erna R118. Just because the government shuts down doesn't mean you can't produce your scat videos. Be gone.

This is some of the best news I've heard recently. Anything to whittle down the number of morons who still think Trump and the GOP are doing a great job is AOK with me.