New series Succession on HBO

I get some serious American Psycho vibe from the trailer.

Just watched the trailer again and it looks good. Frank Rich is one of the producers.

I'm a fan of Brian Cox since "Manhunter" days; I'm in.

Just saw the trailer for this. Hopefully there'll be something gay related

Loving that schnozz in OP's pic. Who is he and why aren't I riding his face yet?

His name is Jeremy Strong,

Official trailer.

Looks exhausting and also straight as fuck.

Official Trailer. This looks really good!!!

Ohh how quaint HBO is still a thing.

Doesn't even look good enough to pirate.

Sounds like your Basic Boring Business Soap from the '80s, daytime or night.

Anybody watch the premiere last night? I thought it was pretty good.

Are there ANY hot men associated with this project?

No?

Meh. Next.

Just watched the first episode. Well, that's a hot [non]Tranny Mess! Cheese, cheese, True-Cheese©.

This show should be A LOT better with its pedigree, but it’s unfunny satire drama mishmash with extremely unlikable characters.

Renewed. Whut?

Did this show even have anything gay related? If not, probably why it was renewed.

This over reaching King Lear imitation is a bore. Not one character to respect or like. Rich white people fighting over power and money- boring.

The Culkin kid growed up nice.

HBO was never going to cancel a show with Frank Rich (Veep) as one of its showrunners after one season.

[quote] Sounds like your Basic Boring Business Soap from the '80s, daytime or night

If only this show were as good as an 80's soap. It's boring as fuck. None, and I mean absolutely NONE of the characters are likable. But the worst thing is that they aren't even unlikable either. They're just boring. And they are all unattractive. I could go to my local mall and find 20 people who are 100% better looking than this cast. The entire cast is so un-energetic and lethargic. So is the show

A Spanish soap is more interesting and I don't even know Spanish, but I know when I flick through the channels the Spanish soaps look like something's going on. Succession has nothing going on

The actress playing the daughter is attractive but zero eye candy amongst the male cast.

r19 That was my first thought as well - a courtesy renewal that wouldn't shit up anyone's resume. I fully expect them to pull the plug next season.

Also, I'm slowly approaching a point where I won't watch a TV show that doesn't feature any gay characters. I'm sorry but there's so much good stuff out there that I don't need to put up with this shit in 2018. It's becoming as bad in my eyes as having an all-white cast. And judging by the trailer, this show is a double offender.

Yeah, it is strange that there’s not one gay character in a show with an ensemble cast.

In 2018 it's almost unacceptable. R23

Bump

It’ll be huge in the UK. They love shows with assholes in them.

Well, the fitness trainer was certainly hot. Maybe he’s gay?

That's Brock Yurick. And he's gay

Seeing himself on TV

[quote]Did this show even have anything gay related?

The Culkin character mentioned dick in the ass, I am assuming he is gay

Just like the HBO series “Looking”, I hated it and stopped watching because I couldn’t relate to any of. the characters. There’s no reason to watch if I don’t see “me” on the screen.

Boring!

The Culkin character is trying to manipulate the hot male trainer into some kind of sexual arrangement. Not sure why he jerked off all over the window.

What's strange is the review I read said it was funny, not laugh out loud funny but they compared to Arrested Development. They need more eye candy. I think the Jeremy Strong is a good actor but definitely not nearly as hot as Mark Strong.

It’s not funny - just reminds me of Trump and kids.

[R30] I came here to see if anyone else was watching this show because Culkin’s character is hella gay. It’s kinda of pathetic that he’s manipulating the trainer instead of just being straight about wanting to fuck him. Surely his money can compensate for his lack of charm and looks

Didn’t Brock Yurich used to make cam videos where he’s showing his naked ass? I remember a link to one of those being posted in a thread on DL. I wonder if that was part of his audition tape for Succession!

Every one of the male characters alludes to gay sex and several of them look like they’d suck a cock to get ahead or are hiding behind a straight facade. It’s not a show about sex, but about power, wealth and validation. I think there’s potential to create a gay arc of a story and yes, some of it is funny in a calculated, “Curb Your Enthusiasm” bumbling kind of way. Just finished 3rd episode.

Really, really awful acting and the dialogue is horrible. What was the point?

I disagree, R38. I think the acting is terrific and the dialogue is intelligent and even witty at times. I don’t see how the constant bickering will sustain itself over ten episodes, though.

I hate the sister's fiance, what an asshole

Pros: The acting and writing are pretty strong. It is also well-shot. Brian Cox is good. Cons: There is not a single character with any redeeming qualities. This is a show about horrible people across the board.

R41 but isn’t that also true about Veep?

[quote] I hate the sister's fiance, what an asshole

It's funny. He's a pretty posh British actor. He really is doing a good job as an asshole, idiot American

I’ve never liked Matthew McFadyen in anything but he’s very funny as Shiv’s fiance.

This series should be called Rich Assholes. Not even one of the main characters is likeable or has any redeeming qualities. I don’t know if it’s Trump fatigue but watching a show of nothing but rich selfish narcissistic sociopaths isn’t entertaining. At least in shows about rich people like Dallas or Dynasty there were a few good characters you cared about. All these characters are being written or improvised to such insufferable extremes that it feels more like an episode of Oz.

Matt McFadd is in this? I saw it OnDemand, but bypassed it because it's description didn't sound very interesting, but I do like Matt McFadd - he was in PBS "Little Dorrit" and of course he played Fitzwilliam Darcy to Keira Knightly's Elizabeth Bennet back in 2005.

For those who were wondering the RECCNY Ball was shot at Cipriani in the Wall Street district.

I liked the Thanksgiving episode. Marcia’s son is yummy.

[quote]It’s not funny - just reminds me of Trump and kids.

[quote]Cons: There is not a single character with any redeeming qualities. This is a show about horrible people across the board.

I like it [italic]because[/italic] the characters are so rotten. And the oldest sons has a Don Jr. vibe about him that makes the show even more enjoyable to me.

I don't necessarily watch a TV series or movie to relate to or care about the characters. (That's why I love VEEP.)

Not everything needs some kind of moral compass. In fact, sometimes that's the point: there IS none.

I made it 4 episodes. This show is..dull.

Just what I want to see. A reprehensible family of greedy, cut throat bastards. Pure fiction, right?

(And isn’t like 90% of the cast from the UK? Here’s an idea - hire Americans who know how to do American accents)

R51, the only Brits in thr cast are Brian Cox (Logan) and Matthew McFadyen (Tom). Sarah Snook (Shiv) is Australian. Hiam Abbas (Marcia) is Iraeli.The rest are Americans. Most of the production team are Briish, though. The last two episodes were shot in England.

Are people actually still watching this? The ratings are in the toilet. It has zero buzz. I bet HBO reneges on its second season renewal. I don’t know anyone watching this show.

R54 - I did a Wiki check and saw the ratings have been fairly consistent.

Certainly more people are watching this than were watching Here and Now.

R53-uhhh, WRONG. Its ratings aren’t in the toilet. It’s true there are people who hate it but there are people who LOVE it. Vinyl was too expensive to produce which is why HBO reneged on a Season 2. It won’t happen with this one.

I’m still not sure if I liked Vinyl.

After the 2008 Recession and all that Wall St fuckery —and now with Trump in charge bringing it all back? Watching rich sociopathic fucks with 1%er problems is not my idea of a good time. I can watch CNN for that.

The most recent episode was GREAT. Poor Kendall.

I like it. I think it's hilarious to watch their lives fall apart. Kendall is kind of likeable.

The Culkin kid is trying way too hard to be the interesting asshole character. Every episode is him doing something "shocking" or saying anything un-PC to show how "cool" he is. You're not edgy, kid. Give it up already.

R59

I was happy to see Kendall get his ass kicked he’s too weak and stupid to beat his father. He doesn’t deserve to be king.

The New Mexico episode was great.

" I don’t see how the constant bickering will sustain itself over ten episodes, though."

Have faith, dear brother, have faith.

Is Culkin gay in real life? I've always had a crush on him and loved his horny gay character in Scott Pilgrim.

I don’t think he is.

Is this a straight, boring, "relevant" version of Sexy Dirty Money for douchebags?

Uhhhh, RIGHT R55. It’s numbers are terrible, it consistently comes in at the very bottom of Sunday shows, and it LOSES viewers every week. No one cares about or is watching this show. It has no buzz which is critical for HBO. After multiple episodes, it barely rates sixty posts here. CANCELED. Bye bitch.

Hey, idiot/R67, it’s been renewed for a second season.

Bye bitch.

A very perceptive rave:

I want to see all of the kids moms. And how that plays out. I hope they have some good actresses lined up.

Hate it so far and I wanted to like it. I usually love business soaps or dark family dramas, but this is just a bunch of assholes doing asshole shit. Boring boring boring. The Culjin kid is especially noxious.

R70, Harriet Walter plays Shiv’s mom. The last two episodes were shot in a castle in Gloucestershire, England.

Last night’s episode was great. Kendall looks so much better with facial hair.

Completely drawn in. Some of the dialogue is very well-written (the scene with the stepmom and the bimbo in New Mexico made me laugh) and the acting is fantastic, especially the father and Kendall.

None of the characters, except the father, is completely horrible and the theme of adult kids still jostling for a distant father's affection and approval, while navigating their own relationships, is universal.

Matthew MacFadyen is the best thing in this.

I agree, R75. He’s fucking hilarious.

[quote]Uhhhh, RIGHT R55. It’s numbers are terrible, it consistently comes in at the very bottom of Sunday shows, and it LOSES viewers every week. No one cares about or is watching this show.

To add to what R67 said, you're wrong: the show is not losing viewers.

I made the argument @ R54 that viewership has been consistent.

In fact, the premier episode had 582,000 viewers and the one this past Sunday had 637,000.

The show hasn’t grabbed some people but there are some people who absolutely love it. I think it will be a big deal when it starts airing in the UK next week. They appreciate shows about assholes over there.

Slow. Boring. The hesitated speech pattern used by all of them makes me want to blow a hole thru the TV. I've given up on it.

Love that upper lip on Kendall. Does anyone else? The long masculine upper lip. Anyone seen him nude?

Also love Tom. Would love to fuck with both of them. So hot!

Harriet Walter was great as the mother this last week. I hope she returns next season.

I like the actress playing Siobhan as well.

Loved the mother’s line to Cousin Greg-“Your father tried to sleep with half the men in Saucalito.”

[quote] (And isn’t like 90% of the cast from the UK? Here’s an idea - hire Americans who know how to do American accents)

Brian Cox's character is from Scotland just as Cox himself is.

Marcia is Israeli just as the actress who plays her is.

The only two characters who are playing Americans who are not Americans themselves are Siobhan (Sarah Snook is Australian) and Tom (Matthew MacFadyen is British), and they are both affecting decent American accents.

There's only one mother of the children we haven't seen yet: Connor's mom. They've not even mentioned yet who she is or if she's still alive.

The mother of the other three children is Lady Caroline. Since the children don't have British accents they must have been raised in the US--they've not really explained that yet either.

R84, the reclining blonde woman we see in the opening is supposed to be Caroline, I guess. Sharon Stone would have been great casting.

R84, thr kids probably split their time between the US and the UK. Cheltenham was where Roman was put in a dog cage and that’s in England.

I really like this show but the underground party scenes were awful. And didn't Shiv's fiance hook up with a trannie who shot in his mouth? But in the wedding scenes she was a bio woman. Can someone clear this up for me?

She just looked like a trannie but she is all woman.

Which ones are full siblings?

I think Caroline is Roman and Shiv’s mother but Connor and Kendall have different mothers.

And didn't Shiv's fiance hook up with a trannie who shot in his mouth?

No, it was an actual (but very tall) woman, who later shows up at the wedding in the UK. Tom shot his wad in her mouth, and then she gave him a snowball (i.e. she passed his own load back into his mouth).

No, Connor's mother is Logan's first wife. The mother of Kendall, Roman, and Shiv is Caroline Collingwood, Logan's second wife.

Caroline looks too young to be Kendall’s mother but whatever.

With some fine tuning in S2, this has a lot of potential.

[quote] Caroline looks too young to be Kendall’s mother but whatever.

Harriet Walter, who plays Caroline, was born in 1950.

Jeremy Strong, who plays Kendall, was born in 1978.

She is plenty old enough to be his mother.

I luv the theme music!!

So do I, R96. It’s brilliant. I like the bridge even better than the main melody.

Theme music.

Is there any nudity on the show?

No, R99.

Looking forward to the season finale Sunday night. I have a feeling the dad will croak.

I watched half of the first episode weeks ago and was bored, and tuned out. Then I came back and binged the next few episodes last weekend, and am now hooked. I like the look, the dialogue and the dark humor. I hate several of the main characters, but that's what a good soap does, right?

Looking forward to the season finale, and the next batch of episodes in a year or so. Are we sure it has been renewed?

Yes.

If the dad doesn't croak, I have a sense the buyout of Waystar/Royco will be successful and the father will be ousted.

Good seaon finale. That poor server.

It was a weird way to end the season. There's absolutely no tension about what will happen next season. Kendall lost his bid to takeover and was humiliated by his father; Siobhan confessed her infidelity and asked for an open marriage from Tom, and he forgave her on both counts, and got to throw Nate out of the castle. So the two major plot threads of the season are pretty thoroughly resolved, and there's no cliffhanger for what will happen next.

I also don't know why they set out to evoke Chappaquiddick so directly.

It badly needs some good looking men in the cast...

Marcia’s son Amir is a hottie.

Oh my god Kendall is a fucking mess can’t even articulate what the hell hes trying to do. Even with his father sick and barely functioning Kendall is still bitched out by him.

The Chappaquiddick thing last night was really weird. You could really see it coming when they got into the car and Kendall offered to drive--it was too transparently set up.

I actually though Kendall looked really hot with his shirt off.

Connor said that as President he wouldn’t be paying tax. Americans never say “paying tax,” we say “paying taxes.”

I think they all grew up in England for a bit R112. At least the last three did. Not really sure of the eldest's story yet.

Some of you people truly have zero taste. It's a compelling, exciting show with top tier actors and wonderful writing.

The oldest one (Connor) also was in England growing up at least partially. He remembered Roman wanting to be placed in the dog kennel in Cheltenham.

Yeah but Connor’s probably lived the major portion of his life in the US. He wouldn’t say “paying tax.” That’s the only Brit colloquialism that was used by the kids. I just think it slipped by with nobody bothering to correct it. Both the writer and director are British.

Was this good??

Yes, I love it. Was hooked from the beginning.

BUMP

Awesome series that started a bit slowly and got better every week. The finale was great, and I didn’t need some cliched cliffhanger to return for a season 2. There’s plenty to wonder about as far as what happens to every character.

Strong acting, witty and biting writing, good business stories, great production values....I’m hooked.

Are the characters likable? No. Usually that’s a death knell for a series — but not with SUCCESSION. It’s hard to explain, because while I’m not really rooting for anyone, I’m engrossed anyway.

I MUCH prefer this than to a serious cowboy/western drama like YELLOWSTONE with Kevin Costner. It’s beautiful to look at, but there’s just not enough plot and too many meaningless scenes that scream WTF?

amen, r120

One critic's take on the series . . .

Would recommend this series to anyone intelligent who loves dark comedy and good drama. A soap opera for smart people.

The production design in the castle was stunning. The dialogue is often excellent - witty and sharp.

And the characters almost each have a redeeming feature that contrasts with their dickishness: the Caulkin guy caring if anyone died in the rocket blast and saving his brother from his own drug abuse.

Kendall loving his wife and children, and, deep-down, loving his father too much and wanting his father's love in return. Shiv realizing that her husband (a brilliant character) actually truly loves her for herself and so attempting to protect him even as she goes for the jugular with her father. Greg the Egg. Marcia claiming to put family first. Even the father in the car with Shiv before the wedding displays true affection for her.

Very much enjoying this.

Thanks for the Voice review link, r 122. This series turned out to be a lot more than it seemed it was going to be after the first episode or two.

[quote] Yeah but Connor’s probably lived the major portion of his life in the US.

There's no way you could possibly know that one way or the other.

You're just guessing.

Admit it.

Hey, jerk off/R125, the accent is usually the tip-off. Grow a brain and maybe you can comprehend the concept.

Just finished the first season. Terrific show, and it did get better as it went along. The show really understands family dynamics which I think is its ultimate subject. What a great cast - not just the leads but the supporting players too. I love the woman who plays the ball-busting general counsel.

Not a cliffhanger finale per se but there's a lot in play for the second season - Kendall having to rebuild his life (again) and being back under Logan's thumb ... continued questions about Logan's mental and physical health ... Greg's possession of the supposedly shredded cruise line documents, which now potentially implicates both Logan and Senator Eavis (and Tom) ... Connor's vanity presidential bid ... and what the hell is going on with Roman's sexuality?

There did turn out to be a gay character, btw ... the Asian tech CEO whose company Waystar bought up in the first episode. He has his boyfriend/husband along to dinner with Roman, in the episode about the no confidence vote. Roman seemed like he wanted to suggest a threesome. The actor, Rob Yang, was listed in the opening credits despite a pretty small role, so I assume he'll be back for the second season.

I found it interesting how Logan's health seemed to improve as he fought back against Kendall's no-confidence vote and takeover attempt ... it was like he drew strength from it.

One of the impressive elements of this series has been its effective use of real locations, including city locations and overseas sites that appear to be very real, especially outdoors. Another from the past season that did this was "Killing Eve."

Contrast, say, "Dynasty" or "Knots Landing," which were faves of mine as a youngster but was not far removed from a daytime soap. A few outdoor scenes now and then, but mostly the same sets inside a studio week after week.

Agreed, R127, the show is about family dynamics. It's about a parent who metes out affection and approval and how that can completely fuck up his children and their relationships to him, to each other and to the world in general.

Add the visuals of the fantastic wealth and privilege of the Roy family (the castle episodes were pure eye candy), the sharp dialogue and the excellent acting (agree about the actress who plays the general counsel being very talented) and it's a great ride.

The addition of the Bernie-esque presidential candidate is a stroke of genius.

R127, I'm not so sure Logan is a weak as he displays. I think he's playing with Kendall and the everyone else. He remembered that I Went to Market game hours later. in NM, they said Logan wouldn't go swimming and that he doesn't trust water. Lo and behold, after everyone leaves, he's seen sorta swimming. He seems to know what's going on business -wise as well. I think he's playing a weird cat-and-mouse game with Kendall to determine if he's the right person to take over the business.

Kendall wasn't even smart enough to realize that Marcia, Amir and Logan were trying to help him out of the dead waiter issue. They kept suggesting that the waiter was a thief and perhaps stole his access card. He kept saying no.

I would like to know what Marcia is up to. She seems really shrewd. And it's odd that Logan seems to have genuine affection for her.

None of the kids are strong. Kendall talks a good game, but, as seen by his frantic search for drugs just before a power call, he's not up to a leadership role. Their father has emasculated them.

I have seen this over and over with the children of the rich, famous or powerful. They don't feel worthy (deep-down -on the surface they're little shits) because they didn't earn the money, so they destroy themselves. It would be sad if they weren't so entitled.

However, I think that Kendall is going to get his mojo and challenge his father again, because otherwise what kind of intrigue is there going forward?

Maybe Connor is the dark horse and will emerge as a leader, but he (and Roman) are so silly now that's hard to imagine.

Shiv, for all her supposed success as a political operative, still seems like a dilettante, too tied to Daddy emotionally.

Someone in one of the threads asked about money. I'm guessing by the kids' comments that they've already inherited large sums, which is interesting in itself because why would Daddy give them money (independence) knowing full well that it would give them some control over their own lives?

And I agree that Marcia is fascinating and seems to have a genuine affection for Logan.

I'm going to rewatch because I'm sure that there's a lot of great dialogue I missed the first time.

[quote] He remembered that I Went to Market game hours later. in NM, they said Logan wouldn't go swimming and that he doesn't trust water. Lo and behold, after everyone leaves, he's seen sorta swimming.

He had scars all over his back, so I assume he is hiding that from everyone but his wives or women he sleeps with. They looked like whipping scars.

[quote] Someone in one of the threads asked about money. I'm guessing by the kids' comments that they've already inherited large sums, which is interesting in itself because why would Daddy give them money (independence) knowing full well that it would give them some control over their own lives?

The kids have all clearly a lot of money now even with their father alive. Connor has that enormous compound in New Mexico, and the other three have beautiful and incredibly expensive homes in Manhattan: Roman lives in a coop, and Shiv and Kendall live in brownstones.

They may have inherited money from other relatives.We don't know if Connor's mom is still alive, and the mother of the other three seems to come from a wealthy aristocratic English family.

Oh yeah, I noticed those scars, too, r132. Current wife? Second wife? First wife? Self-flagellation?

I couldn't remember from where I knew the actor playing the father, until I saw him in part of one of those Bourne movies over the weekend on cable (sorry, I can't keep those movies separated in my mind...Supremacy? Legacy? Whatever). The old character actor is good at playing a powerful villain, but I look forward to more subtlety in the next season of this show.

"Not a single character with any redeeming qualities"

Oh I heard about this one -- "Life at the White House."

I would guess the scars were from childhood, r134. They may explain why he's been so ruthless and damaged his entire life.

R132, I completely forgot about those. What the fuck is that about!? Can't wait until next season starts. I'm finding this as intriguing as Billions on SHO.

It's way better than Billions. I gave up on that after a season. This show is so expensive to make. I love it tho

You have quite a wait ahead, R137. The second season doesn’t start shooting until January and most likely won’t air until next September at the earliest. Sunday night in the summer of 2019 on HBO will all be about the final season of Game of Thrones.

I was sick to my stomach watching that hearing today.

If that fat fucking candy-Barr withholds portions of Mueller’s report from the public, can Mueller testify before Congress and spill all the beans? If yes, what legal ramifications, if any, could Mueller face?

^^^^^^^ Sorry, wrong thread.

Heh heh, R141.

I wonder if Succession might include the government shutdown in S2.

Season 2 started shooting this week. Next week they shoot out in the Hamptons.

An Oscar winner for Best Actress has joined the cast in a recurring role in Season 2. And a Tony winner for Best Actress will be in one episode.

Shooting in Lake Placid at the end of the month.

[quote]If only this show were as good as an 80's soap. It's boring as fuck. None, and I mean absolutely NONE of the characters are likable. But the worst thing is that they aren't even unlikable either.

LOL

Season 2 starts airing in August.

Yup, and here's the teaser.

I finally relented and watched it last year and it's great. Still weirded out by the almost complete absence of black people, though. In NYC, of all places. No gays anywhere to be seen either. There's an unusual number of Indian Americans, so that's nice I guess.

Well, Logan Roy has been established as somewhat racist.

They’re shooting in Scotland for the next few weeks.

Tracey Ullman has been portraying this entire family brilliantly!

Holly Hunter Joins HBO Drama Series ‘Succession’

[quote]Hunter will play Rhea Jarrell, the politically savvy CEO of a rival media conglomerate.

I bet her character ends up fucking the father.

I watched the first season. I kept hoping it would get better. It did not. There is not one likable character in the whole bunch.

The cousin (Greg) is very likeable. I just wish there was someone lickable amongst the male cast.

[quote]I watched the first season. I kept hoping it would get better. It did not. There is not one likable character in the whole bunch.

I agree 100%.

Quelle surprise, yet another cable series featuring thoroughly unlikeable rich people. Isn't BILLIONS bad and annoying enough?

I couldn't get through the first season of this hot mess. The US is falling apart, mostly thanks to people like this, yet we are supposed to give a shit about this vile corrupt family? This series is not my idea of enjoyable escapism, mostly because these types of people do exist. The reality of it all is not something I want to see in a TV series.

What are the producers of these types of shows thinking? Is there really an audience for this garbage? I realize, there have always been TV shows about rich hateful families, but this series is not fun or camp like older TV shows such as DALLAS of DYNASTY. In this series, you can't root for anyone, if you do, you're a sociopath.

r156 I had the exact same reservations about this show (also that it's too straight and white - look at my post at r7) but then I watched it and saw that the writers were actually making these rich fuckers squirm and I delighted in that. Of course I don't root for anyone but I can't help but be entertained by them fucking up and failing left and right.

Haven't watched Billions, even though it's constantly being recommended to me. I think one rich family show is enough for me.

Exactly, R157. This show isn’t asking us to CARE about any of these people, we are actually told we can laugh at them. And yet, by the season finale, we did feel something for the main shithead Kendall when things went very wrong for him.

R158, the thing is I don't care either way. I sure don't care to champion these types and I don't care to watch bad things happen to them either.

I simply don't care about these kinds of extremely wealthy people and their self-absorbed shallow lives.

Their lives of self-created drama are not at all interesting to me.

I already know lots of people who constantly screw up their lives on purpose, they need 'drama' and constant attention. I sure don't need to see those types on TV.

Then you’re missing out because Succession is one of the most well written, best acted shows on TV.

Yes, the writing is excellent and I can fully appreciate it on that level, all the while finding the characters repugnant. I also enjoy some of the corporate intrigue.

I hope the gay Asian features more in the second season. I like him.

Just finished S1 last night. Few thoughts.

Really well made show. Makes me want to be in NYC.

I don’t trust Marcy (the 3rd wife’s) son. Maybe it’s my Game of a Thrones hangover coming out but he knows too much for a non-family member, family member that wasn’t a longtime employee. He and his mother were present during a transparent discussion about covering up the (slightly) hot waiter’s death. Plus her son is silently promoted during the Thanksgiving episode.

Back to the son, he’s getting setup for an inheritance that will cause drama. The children were arguing in e1 about giving Marcy 2x voting share. Why would a housewife (I’m sure there is a LOT more to her) need double the power? Because she will pass some of her stocks to her son, depending on the rules of the will.

I like that I don’t like anyone. I am also biase in that I wanted a gay character. It’s teally odd that the show has very limited sex in any direction, but at the same time I respect it for keeping the story about family and power without using the tired trope about sex.

Finally, besides the Egg head cousin, the trainer that we see for 2 little scenes, and Marcy’s son, no one is fuckable. Please send some eye candy for S2

The Corporate Counsil actress and character is my favorite. I couldn’t place her until I remember that she played the crazy mom in Carrie 2: The Rage.

Trying to fix typos since im on my phone. Sorry.

Glad you caught up r163.

Also, Tom leaving his friend behind for his lame bachelors party really pissed me off. They should have skipped his wedding.

He really is the worst and seems gay as a goose, but I am continually entertained by his antics and new money outlook.

The daughter’s politico ex-boyfriend is bitch-made. I would have told him to fuck off with putting that wine back in bottle. The daughter really likes dating weak men.

I loved how she springs the I want an open marriage thing on him on the wedding night. These people so whatever the fuck they want and never face consequences, it’s fabulous TV.

[quote]Finally, besides the Egg head cousin, the trainer that we see for 2 little scenes, and Marcy’s son, no one is fuckable.

That trainer and Kieran Culkin need to fuck already. Though isn't Roman sexually dysfunctional in some way? He wants to be held or something instead of fucking, I can't recall anymore. I bet he's a homo.

R163: that's J. Smith-Cameron. She brilliantly played the mother in the show "Rectify." She is married to playright Kenneth Lonegran.

[quote]The Corporate Counsil actress and character is my favorite. I couldn’t place her until I remember that she played the crazy mom in Carrie 2: The Rage.

J. Smith-Cameron. She's so friggin' fab in this, I cannot.

August 11th!

Matthew MacFadyen is the best thing in this.

r170 He really is. So fucking clueless and awkward, I just want to smack him most of the time. But also endearing and relatable in a way.

Love MM!

r171 is he clueless though? He craves attention from them, new money, so to secure the bag he plays the lovebale doofus. He is vicious and calculators with Egg Head so there is a lot going on behind his public persona.

His wife couldn’t handle him if she saw his real persona. Very interesting character.

R163, a gentle correction-the wife’s name is Marcia. Her son’s name is Amir.

I love everything about this show from the casting to the crazy tinkly piano introduction music. Culkin runs with his character. The last episode was fantastic the marriage at that big English castle and that Chappaquiddick style cover up. The family is dysfunctional and I love it. Looking forward to the next season.

I bet daddy dies at the end of Season 2 and Season 3 will be all about the mad scramble to take over the empire. It IS called Succession, after all.

[quote]Makes me want to be in NYC.

WTF does that even mean? You think everyone in NYC is working in some type of high-powered big money drenched business? That every New Yorker is well heeled, sophisticated and super rich?

Boy, you'd be in for an extremely rude awakening! 😂 🤣😂 🤣

Shut up, R177. I like R163.

r176 Wasn't the first season kinda already about the mad scramble to take over the empire in case pops didn't make it?

r177 it means that I have very little interest in NYC, I prefer Chicago (cleaner/more beautiful/affordable/better public transit), but the show makes NYC seem sexy. No, I don't think NYC is like that at all unless your a billionaire, like this fake family.

Love you too r178!

The actor playing Cousin Greg, Nicholas Braun, responded to gay rumors by posting a picture of him kissing his straight best friend. I like that sense of humor, both guys are possibly straight.

This show has more teaser trailers than the Avengers. Here's another one.

It’s a good teaser. For a second you can spot Jeannie Berlin in it. I like her. I guess she’s a guest star.

^^ LUVHUH!

Season 2 official trailer.

You can tell that 85 percent of posters upthread on this thread are 50+. They all complain about likeable or relatable characters.

The younger crowd loves misery and watching people humiliate themselves and each other, so they could give a fuck.

I just finished this after taking a few months to get into it and I want more now.

J. Smith-Cameron really is one of the best things about the show. Every time she's on screen I get excited.

I still don't know if I'm attracted to Kieran Culkin.

I'm now bingewatching season 1. I made it through 7 episodes yesterday, so I'm calling it compelling.

Someone upthread compared Jeremy Strong and Mark Strong. Are they related? I find Kendall the most interesting character. I will be neither sad nor surprised if Cousin Greg turns out to be gay. I love Matthew McFadyen in anything and everything, and he's really funny as Tom, as well as being convincingly American. I want to kill both the father and Kieran Culkin's character.

[quote]The Chappaquiddick thing last night was really weird. You could really see it coming when they got into the car and Kendall offered to drive--it was too transparently set up.

r111 Soap opera cliche #34: Get in a car, die in a car.

[quote]The cousin (Greg) is very likeable. I just wish there was someone lickable amongst the male cast.

I'd lick Cousin Greg from head to toe.

[quote] Someone upthread compared Jeremy Strong and Mark Strong. Are they related?

No. Mark Strong's last name was Salussolia until his mother changed their names when they moved to England.

I'm a fan of Jeremy Strong which is why I can tolerate Kendall more than the other equally assholish Roy kids. I just want him to have a win.

He sounds very interesting, r191. I had not heard of him before Succession.

Season 2 starts tonight. I think I'll wait until the season finishes before I start, so I can bingewatch it. I really like Jeremy Strong and the guy who plays Cousin Greg.

Apart from the final couple of seconds, I didn't much care for that season opener. It was pretty weak, I thought.

I see now someone has created a Season 2 thread...

Sarah Snook is fugly.

White devil nonsense.

Alan Ruck is low key excellent.

Don't you DL Queens realize this topic was started just to publicize this FORGETTABLE show.

I hated the ending of season one, I probably will not watch season 2 at all. That ending was absurd in every way.

The lead is so unattractive Ibcould not get use to him being the lead. I am used to him now but the ending? That was unreasonable.

Actually the tall kid is a pretty good actor. He is perfect in his part...you believe him completly

R201, he is in his 70s. How "attractive" do you think a man that old can be.

Just finished Season 2. Kendall and Romulus have become more sympathetic the more when have seen them, Shiv less. Though they’re all awful. Her problem is the actress performs 100% in smirks, When she should limit them to 55%.

Good old Greg, that Machiavellian fuck! I didn’t motive that he arrived on the yacht with Kendall. He has learned quite a bit from his grandfather James Cromwell.

Tom will feel so betrayed.

Given the choice between fucking a Roy family member, Logan would come second behind Connor.

Brian Cox ain’t bad.

Bump, late to the party, I’m about halfway through season 1. I’m enjoying it I guess, though I hate them all so much.

I agree completely with R79 about the halting delivery, so annoying. Seems to be the Brit and Australian doing it the most. Is that part of how they’re trained to do an American accent? I’ve noticed it in other instances, like Rebecca Hall in that Woody Allen movie.

uh....who wants to watch a show bout creepy rich criminals....ugh

Does the girl who plays Shiv have butt implants?

Has season 3 filmed?

Doubt it, r210

Cousin Greg came out with a hipster music video about antibodies!

I low-key hate myself for wanting to buy this corny ass sweatshirt

[quote] Bump, late to the party, I’m about halfway through season 1. I’m enjoying it I guess, though I hate them all so much.

I felt the same way, I watched it because there's wasn't much else on. But you have to watch Season two. The last 5 minutes of the last episode is FABULOUS

It's a a slow burn, but the payoff was worth it

Watch the second season, come back and tell me if I was wrong

The last episode of season two is rated 9.8 on IMDB

S3 starter shooting last month.

It was shooting in my neighborhood in lower Manhattan last week. I spotted Jeremy Strong and the tall guy who plays Cousin Greg being walked to their trailer. Both were wearing those upside down face shields.

R214 yes I did end up watching the whole thing and totally agree with you!

I’ve gotten into the annoying habit of talking like Shiv and Roman. “Uhhhh.....eh.....heh.....yep?”

Shiv is a cunt

I think Logan will order a hit on Kendall.

To show him what a "killer" really is?

My favourite episode was at the dinner where Cherry Jones pretended she cooked, and the boorish New Yorker Roy family were rolling their eyes when the precious Pierces recited Shakespeare at the table.

Rich white assholes come in all shades.

I hope Marcia comes back for Season 3. Maybe Logan will need her for his fight against Kendall.

Started a rewatch tonight and keep getting distracted by how little this family resembles one another. You've got Old Man Grizzly, Israeli junkie, friend of Ferris, Kiki Culkin, and Irish lady. In no world are these people from the same genetic pool.

Irish lady is actually an Aussie. And they had two different moms so there’s a reason they don’t all look similar.

And by Israeli junkie do you mean Marcia? She’s their stepmother.

I meant Kendall.

No, Israeli, Kiki and Irish have the same English mother.

I want Nicholas Braun very badly.

Agreed R230, much of my time watching the show is spent thinking about Greg and Tom kissing, and eventually flip fucking.

I keep captions on so I can follow the dialogue while I daydream.

The Armando Iannucci stable is obsessed with random tall guys.

Like Jonah in Vice.

R230, you have very unusual taste

Nicholas Braun’s smile is adorable.

Mmm kay

It’s shooting at a restaurant near me in the West 50s this morning. I’ve spotted Jeremy Strong walking inside, wearing one of those upside down face shields.

Thanks for the report R236. I can't wait for this show to come back.

I'm excited about this!

It’s shooting at Cipriani on South Street tonight. They shot there for an episode in Season 1, too.

Thanks for the report R239. I miss these motherfuckers.

It shot at The Shed at Hudson Yards all last week.

This show is set to blow the fuck up if it can hold the momentum from season two. If the writing holds up, by the of season three, HBO will have another Sopranos on its hands.

Shooting in East Hampton this week.

I'm just happy this show survived. it's very expensive to make since they shoot on location. Being in NYC, which was a COVID hotspot, and having an ancient lead had me worried. At this point, no one else can play Logan. Happy to see that HBO and the show gave the show time.

I have Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime. Before HBO Max was free with Hulu I was using HBO Go. One channel I'm happy to support. Plus HBO Max has made a lot of gay content over the past 1-2 years. Simply the best cable channel in my opinion.

[quote] This show is set to blow the fuck up if it can hold the momentum from season two.

Shit's about to get real!

Does anyone know if the pandemic will figure into this season or is it set in before times?

I've been wondering that as well for shows like Euphoria. I sort of hope they don't factor that into these shows. Let us live in the fantasy without that stuff. But maybe they need to mention it for storylines to explain why some characters may not be in the same room.

They’ll probably wear masks on occasion or Roman will be caused of infecting everyone but it will likely be a gag and not a plot line.

I want to swallow every inch of Jeremy Strong.

I think Succession is set in an alternate reality (not in a Sci-Fi way) and so Covid won’t be a fixture at all.

Jesse Armstrong has said that the pandemic will appear on the show but that it won’t be a foregrounded plot element.

Adrian Brody will apparently be a guest star.

[quote] At this point, no one else can play Logan.

Maybe not. But the show does not need Logan to survive. The show is not strictly about Logan as much as it is about the empire he created.

And yes, I’m aware of the name of the show. This particular show could go in a million different directions and still be a succession drama.

Hel-LO, Alexander Skarsgard.

I bet his character fucks Shiv.

This show is just teeming with big dick men.

It’s been confirmed the show is shooting its last episode (s) of the season in Italy. I bet they’ll be in Lake Como. I bet George Clooney will pop by for a visit if Skarsgard is on set.

[quote] I think Succession is set in an alternate reality (not in a Sci-Fi way) and so Covid won’t be a fixture at all.

Yes, the show is set in an alternate universe where FOX News does not exist. Their company ATC News is the FOX News of their universe. CNN also does not exist in their reality. So COVID might not exist either.

And in the Succession universe Donald Trump hasn’t been the president, either.

The theme song, now with lyrics.

Bernie Sanders also doesn’t exist in their universe. Shiv goes to work for his clone.

Trailer for Season 3-it looks pretty damn good. And confirmation that Covid isn’t a part of the storyline.

I can’t wait.