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Porn Director Chi Chi LaRue

Because someone in another thread requested it. Share all your sordid tales of the infamous porn director here.

by Anonymousreply 215March 3, 2018 10:43 PM

I've just never liked her (she's obnoxious) or her porn.

by Anonymousreply 1January 17, 2018 6:12 AM

In the past he knew how to smooze the local gay community in SF, especially ones with money who can provide their Pacific Heights backyard for a gorgeous backshoot. He sure could find some jot men wsy back whwn.

by Anonymousreply 2January 17, 2018 6:22 AM

He's really Bob Dylan. You will note you'll never see the two together.

by Anonymousreply 3January 17, 2018 7:05 AM

Is she still directing? Last I heard she was in rehab? Didn't have good rap going back to days with the late Joey Steffano, drugs and porn.

by Anonymousreply 4January 17, 2018 7:10 AM

"Jot men from wsy back whwn"???

by Anonymousreply 5January 17, 2018 7:16 AM

Seems like every couple years someone creates a new Chi Chi LaRue thread.

Why?

by Anonymousreply 6January 17, 2018 7:20 AM

And, she's back in Minnesota now. She does DJ gigs/appearances around the country.

I think the porn career is mostly gone, isn't it? Her studio hasn't been major for a long time.

by Anonymousreply 7January 17, 2018 7:21 AM

Someone asked I also started a thread that was ignored.

by Anonymousreply 8January 17, 2018 7:23 AM

Wasn't she begging for money on GoFundMe or something fairly recently? Which made no sense given that she was supposed to be wealthy.

by Anonymousreply 9January 17, 2018 7:26 AM

Are there recent nude photos?

by Anonymousreply 10January 17, 2018 8:23 AM

she got run out of town again....

by Anonymousreply 11January 17, 2018 8:29 AM

After all these years, only now did I realize that this old hag is Italian, and for some reason that cracks me up - I must wonder if her entire extended family knows of her gay porno empire.

by Anonymousreply 12January 17, 2018 8:58 AM

R12, I thought Sophia Petrillo said her crossdressing son died... pretty sure I saw that somewhere.

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by Anonymousreply 13January 17, 2018 9:02 AM

The Steven Spielberg of gay porn directors. And that's not exactly a compliment. In her 90s Weho hey-day, her annual birthday party bash was a major EVENT.

by Anonymousreply 14January 17, 2018 9:12 AM

R14 Oh so no wonder old porn is soo boring and terrible.

by Anonymousreply 15January 17, 2018 9:16 AM

anyone know what happend to Mona? her makeup artist in the films for many yrs.

she was a blast!

any fun storys?

by Anonymousreply 16January 17, 2018 9:42 AM

CCL was asking for GoFundMe donations when he was in rehab because he was about to run out of insurance benefits and he claimed the money was to continue his treatment (I believe he was at Betty Ford). As far as him being rich are concerned, he may have made some good money but it appears he fucked it all up his nose, as most junkies are apt to do.

For most of his "career" directing porn he just phoned it in. He wouldn't even stick around in the same room to direct the action. He would leave some known-nothing assistant there basically make sure no one burned the building down while he was off in another room doing blow. That why most of his porn after his initial successes is worthless, boring, crap.

by Anonymousreply 17January 17, 2018 10:22 AM

I dare you to find a single photo where s/he isn't making the surprised "OH!" face.

by Anonymousreply 18January 17, 2018 10:58 AM

as odious and loud in person as u would imagine.

like a charging rhino, he was heard leaving the nob hill theatre after some gala announcing to his pansy posse: 'now i aint goin to no faggot bar, lets go get some str8 dik'...

by Anonymousreply 19January 17, 2018 11:45 AM

She's a lying backstabbing homophobic lesbian

by Anonymousreply 20January 17, 2018 11:48 AM

every self respecting porn star, and there are alot, that ive known over the yrs has told me they would never associate or hang with la rue for a second outside of work.

by Anonymousreply 21January 17, 2018 11:55 AM

Do you think he'll ever give in and direct bareback porn? He's the last holdout.

I also remember in the 90s, Chi Chi would have another birthday party in NYC. I went to one at King, the former coke-fiend bar across the ave from Splash.

by Anonymousreply 22January 17, 2018 12:02 PM

I met her in the early 2000's and offered her some coke, we chatted a bit, she was really friendly and not a major bitch at all. Down to earth, really, not some flippant tweaking jerk.

by Anonymousreply 23January 17, 2018 12:07 PM

people would reveal the most hideous stuff about her behind her back....

i wondered if thats why she drowned her sorrow in drugs

so despised.

poor sow.....almost pity her.

by Anonymousreply 24January 17, 2018 12:07 PM

Some say victimizer others say, a victim who can say for sure.

by Anonymousreply 25January 17, 2018 12:50 PM

"I met her in the early 2000's and offered her some coke, we chatted a bit, she was really friendly and not a major bitch at all."

If you offer a drug addict drugs, of course, they become your new best friend. Duh!!

by Anonymousreply 26January 17, 2018 12:56 PM

R23 Hi Chi Chi

by Anonymousreply 27January 17, 2018 1:14 PM

He's a boy, stop calling him she. He's a guy who wears a dress.

by Anonymousreply 28January 17, 2018 1:23 PM

100% Pure Trash...who gives us all a bad name!!!

by Anonymousreply 29January 17, 2018 1:25 PM

[quote] 'now i aint goin to no faggot bar, lets go get some str8 dik'...

As if anyone, at least not comatose, would lower himself to put his penis anywhere near that thing.

by Anonymousreply 30January 17, 2018 2:27 PM

Didn't he have a coke induced heart attack and then stomach surgery only to gain back all the weight?

by Anonymousreply 31January 17, 2018 4:17 PM

Can anybody post a picture of that fat, trashy bitch out of drag?

by Anonymousreply 32January 17, 2018 4:50 PM

R32, See my post at R13.

by Anonymousreply 33January 17, 2018 5:34 PM

In another thread someone posted that he took a picture of a Rockland brother doing coke and threatened to send it to his parents if he didn't do porn and he started crying.

by Anonymousreply 34January 17, 2018 5:53 PM

Met him years ago in Atlanta. Really trashy and vulgar.

by Anonymousreply 35January 17, 2018 6:01 PM

[quote] Can anybody post a picture of that fat, trashy bitch out of drag?

R32, his real name is Larry David Paciotti. Here she is as an hombre.

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by Anonymousreply 36January 17, 2018 6:06 PM

I AGED 5 YRS STARING AT THE PIC OF THAT MEAN OLD SOW

HUN A SHE IS A SHE...

AND BITCH SHE IS A SHE.

NUFF SAID

by Anonymousreply 37January 17, 2018 10:35 PM

Holy shit he looks so different. He kept the weight off?

by Anonymousreply 38January 17, 2018 11:28 PM

I actually watched him direct a scene from one of his movies. My impression, he yelled alot: Suck that cock! And he's fat.

by Anonymousreply 39January 17, 2018 11:31 PM

R39 he also directed straight porn and oddly he never yelled while directing straight porn. I assume he hates gay men.

by Anonymousreply 40January 17, 2018 11:32 PM

Chi Chi single-handedly destroyed the gay porn business. It started when condoms were the only prevention for HIV, and he made everyone in the industry so miserable that all of the talented people left or just went bareback to spite him. There are people in the industry who cannot utter the name Chi Chi LaRue without a string of explicatives.

For all of Chi Chi's blather about HIV, condoms and porn, if you've watched a Chi Chi movie, you've watched someone seroconvert. Moreover, Chi Chi was a proponent of magical condom thinking, never informing the talent whether or not they were working with someone HIV+. And there were many, many who worked with him, thought they were being "safe" and protected, only to discover that they were being mislead and given a false sense of security... or worse. I knew a cute boy who claimed he seroconverted on Chi Chi's set, and he had the test results showing he was negative the day before he shot his first scene with him, and turned up positive two weeks later when he got tested for, ironically, a bareback studio. Sure, you have to take such a story with a grain of salt — we're talking about porn stars here — but the boy's tears were real. He confronted Chi Chi with the results and his response was to blackball the boy in the industry.

After all of Chi Chi's claims about the years of big money, he has nothing left to show for it, which is why he's living in his mother's basement in Minnesota. Chi Chi claims that All Worlds made him a millionaire, but I have never met a millionaire who had to beg for help on GoFundMe when their insurance ran out. Yeah. Betty Ford is expensive... but chump change for someone as wealthy as Chi Chi claimed to be.

The story R34 relates is entirely believable. What they didn't tell you was that Chi Chi likely sold or just gave the coke so he could use it to blackmail him. And this is just the tip of the iceberg; Chi Chi paid models with drugs instead of cash, she looked the other way when they'd do drugs on set, and even demanded that some boys do the drugs to get a better performance out of them.

For all intents and purposes, Chi Chi killed Joey Stefano. I met Charles Isherwood long after reading [italic]Wonderbread and Ecstasy[/italic] and when I asked him a few questions about the book, he just spilled his guts with all the gory details that he couldn't corroborate (and include in the book). Stefano's story was a tragedy all around, and bought and paid for by Chi Chi.

Have no sympathy for Chi Chi. He made his bed, and now he gets to lay in it.

by Anonymousreply 41January 17, 2018 11:44 PM

He was no Taylor Hudson.

by Anonymousreply 42January 18, 2018 1:27 AM

Didn't Chi Chi start that vile Michele Lucas into the porn business?

by Anonymousreply 43January 18, 2018 4:31 AM

[quote]For all intents and purposes, Chi Chi killed Joey Stefano.

Joey might have have been a wee bit responsible himself, Dear.

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by Anonymousreply 44January 18, 2018 12:43 PM

r36 God, he looks like Templeton the Rat

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by Anonymousreply 45January 18, 2018 12:56 PM

[quote]Joey might have have been a wee bit responsible himself, Dear.

From having quoted exactly how I phrased it — "for all intents and purposes" — you should see that I didn't excuse Stefano's culpability in his addiction and ultimately, death. What I said and what I stand by is that Chi Chi was in a position to either help stop/prevent or to enable Stefano and his drug habit, and he chose, out of personal and business interests, to enable and even supply Stefano with the drugs that killed him. Chi Chi had the opportunity to help this guy he called a friend. Instead, Chi Chi decided to go with enabling Stefano's use, and it was in Chi Chi's interests to do so. No, Chi Chi has never claimed sainthood; he has, however, claimed to be morally superior to his peers, when, in fact, he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

by Anonymousreply 46January 18, 2018 5:51 PM

Wasn't Chi Chi involved with the Mafia & gay porn?

by Anonymousreply 47January 19, 2018 4:13 AM

[quote] For all of Chi Chi's blather about HIV, condoms and porn, if you've watched a Chi Chi movie, you've watched someone seroconvert. Moreover, Chi Chi was a proponent of magical condom thinking, never informing the talent whether or not they were working with someone HIV+. And there were many, many who worked with him, thought they were being "safe" and protected, only to discover that they were being mislead and given a false sense of security... or worse. I knew a cute boy who claimed he seroconverted on Chi Chi's set, and he had the test results showing he was negative the day before he shot his first scene with him, and turned up positive two weeks later when he got tested for, ironically, a bareback studio. Sure, you have to take such a story with a grain of salt — we're talking about porn stars here — but the boy's tears were real. He confronted Chi Chi with the results and his response was to blackball the boy in the industry.

Bullshit. The idea that porn stars in condom-only movies are seroconverting left and right is laughable. The "crying boy" is a man (this ain't kiddie porn) who contracted it off-camera. Unless, your implying that Chi Chi is tampering with condoms.

For all the flaws and fuck-ups, Chi Chi lost a ton of potential income by refusing to produce bareback.

by Anonymousreply 48January 19, 2018 4:31 AM

[quote] He made his bed, and now he gets to lay in it.

Oh, dear. (…now sleep in it)

by Anonymousreply 49January 19, 2018 4:49 AM

For those wondering, yeah, he is still directing for other studios. Did a (rather crappy) Cockyboys film last year. Still doing some directing for Falcon (one of the most recent Brent Corrigan movies). And also did an Icon Male movie when they were pretending to distance themselves from kooky Nica Noelle.

by Anonymousreply 50January 19, 2018 4:57 AM

Is English your native language, R49? If not, that's cool.

The idiom posted by R41 is correct.

Please reconsider your career as the substitute "Oh, Dear" troll.

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by Anonymousreply 51January 19, 2018 5:02 AM

I've run in the same circle w/ Chi Chi for years and she's is a fucking mess. Most interesting and telling thing I can say is that she is unable to sustain ANY relationships. Ask her where Jordan Young, Gender, Chris Green, Sharon Cain,Devyn Foster, and the rest of her "Porn Brat Pack" are? Chi Chi used all these friends. Read her horrible book where she trashes everyone she called a friend. She is getting everything she deserves. Even her tranny fellow drag porn Director Crystal Crawford (Brian Patrick Maley) felt Chi' Chi's acid tongue. Maley works as a hotel butler in Vegas @ The Cosmopolitan Hotel (just some trivia)

She had a beautiful place in Weho where she lived with new talent when they needed a place to crash. Epic Birthday parties and was VERY close to breaking into the mainstream with her clown drag. Madonna videos, low end celebrity friends like Holly Woodlawn, and a porn posse. She ruled Weho in the 90's. I hope she rots in her Mother's basement if that's where she is really living in Minnesota.

by Anonymousreply 52January 19, 2018 6:46 AM

R52 Crystal Crawford is a humourless cunt.

by Anonymousreply 53January 19, 2018 12:15 PM

And a fucking UGLY drag queen

by Anonymousreply 54January 19, 2018 2:58 PM

Crystal Crawford - How do you go from directing and performing in Tranny porn to working in the service industry in a Vegas hotel?

by Anonymousreply 55January 20, 2018 3:15 PM

Chi Chi LaRue is One very hot mess!

by Anonymousreply 56January 20, 2018 6:07 PM

Perhaps if John Waters ever decides to film Flamingos Forever, she can be the recast for Divine/Babs Johnson. She was practically a Divine clone in the 90's.

by Anonymousreply 57January 20, 2018 6:19 PM

Is "butler" a fancy word for "she changes sheets and cleans toilets"?

by Anonymousreply 58January 20, 2018 6:27 PM

No, R58, the "butler" rings the door and announces "Room service" before wheeling in your food on a cart.

by Anonymousreply 59January 20, 2018 6:30 PM

Is that Chi Chi LaRue store in West Hollywood still open?

by Anonymousreply 60January 20, 2018 7:33 PM

Is she still a drug addict?

by Anonymousreply 61January 21, 2018 3:31 AM

[quote]Is that Chi Chi LaRue store in West Hollywood still open?

So many gay men are buying DVDs these days!

by Anonymousreply 62January 21, 2018 3:56 AM

What tragic life. I pray that he is the road to Jesus and being sober!

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by Anonymousreply 63January 21, 2018 5:19 AM

I wonder if Chi Chi is still close with Dean Monroe or Brendan Patrick, or if those relationships have gone to shit as well.

by Anonymousreply 64January 21, 2018 5:47 AM

does he have a front bumm?

by Anonymousreply 65January 21, 2018 5:49 AM

So How exactly did this fugly crossdresser become the biggest gay porn director back then??

by Anonymousreply 66January 21, 2018 5:51 AM

I remember him working at a porn store in Minneapolis late 80's?!?!? He was kind of handsome and funny, at least with me. I once helped move a witch decoration in the store and he laughed as the witches legs were spread in a funny manner. I never knew he became chi chi until a few years ago as I don't follow porn directors and all that crap. Hope he gets his life straightened up and does some good. Probably be best if he gets away from it all and moves to the sticks somewhere and becomes a farmer or something..

by Anonymousreply 67January 21, 2018 6:23 AM

The reality is that the business of porn has made very little money since the mid 2000's - at least the "professional"/studio porn anyway. Chi Chi's business is no longer viable these days. The glossy amateur sites continue to crawl along but the big studio work is over for all intents and purposes now. I know nothing about him - I have a condo in which I stay in Los Angeles for 3 to 4 months a year and I have met and known a fair amount of porn stars (gay and straight). That said - the wild, big money days of the 90's are over. They have been for ages.

by Anonymousreply 68January 21, 2018 7:26 AM

He became "DJ Chi Chi Larue" around the time when many C-list celebrities began making club appearances and "DJing" thanks to the newly invented iPod.

I remember seeing him behind the turntables with his chicken legs sticking out underneath. This is when he "took a break" and came back with a dramatic weight loss.

I think he still makes club appearances, and hosts, and DJs. Although, parties and nightlife are not good for staying sober.

by Anonymousreply 69January 21, 2018 8:33 AM

r57 babs is no longer with us.

by Anonymousreply 70January 21, 2018 9:08 AM

Okay, I wanna know what this fat fuck had to do with the death of Joey Stefano. Wasn't Chrystal Crawford the first person that found Joey in the Hollywood hotel? And somehow, Chi Chi and his crew ended up at the hospital the night Stefano was admitted after his overdose? Looking back on Chi Chi's FB page, I notice that he posts a pic of Joey around the November night he passed away.

by Anonymousreply 71January 21, 2018 9:41 AM

R71, Chi Chi is blamed for the long decline of Stefano. I don't think she's accused of that fateful final night.

This blame totally ignores the fact that young men and women, gay and straight, have been self-destructing for decades before Stefano's death, and decades after.

by Anonymousreply 72January 21, 2018 10:38 AM

Everyone that gets associated with Chi Chi immediately becomes an ex-gay. Austin recently followed her and then posted straight porn on his twitter, hmm... 😕

by Anonymousreply 73January 21, 2018 11:22 AM

What does that even mean R72???

by Anonymousreply 74January 21, 2018 11:23 AM

Chi Chi is always totally nice, funny and dishy. I was once at a dinner party with Quentin Crisp in Austin. Chi Chi LaRue's name came up, and Quentin smiled at the drag-mother reference. Quentin then regaled us about the glory days of Danny LaRue.

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by Anonymousreply 75January 21, 2018 11:32 AM

Chi Chi didn't "kill" Joey Stefano, but he certainly enable his drug addiction for years. Kept Stefano well supplied with any and every kind of dope he wanted. Never did one thing to attempt to persuade, help, or support Stefano in any sort of addiction recovery. So Chi Chi basically helped Joey commit a years long suicide.

by Anonymousreply 76January 21, 2018 11:39 AM

Is it male or female now?

by Anonymousreply 77January 21, 2018 11:47 AM

[quote] [R52] Crystal Crawford is a humourless cunt.

Wasn't she the lucky one who got to fellate Julian Rios in the tranny video?

by Anonymousreply 78January 21, 2018 12:00 PM

[quote] Chi Chi is blamed for the long decline of Stefano. I don't think she's accused of that fateful final night.

What it means, R74, is that Chi Chi was just one of many many people and factors in Stefano's fatal decline.

Joey Stefano worked on many porn sets under other directors. He traveled to NYC, stripped, and hustled on his own.

One could calculate that he consumed more drugs with Chi Chi than any other "bad influence" in his life, but it's ridiculous to say, as so many claim, that Chi Chi has Stefano's "blood on his hands."

by Anonymousreply 79January 21, 2018 12:03 PM

R79 = Chi Chi! Hey gurl!

by Anonymousreply 80January 21, 2018 12:36 PM

imagine all the celebratory rounds that will be bought in the bars the night she passes over..... wheeeeeeeeeeeeee

by Anonymousreply 81January 21, 2018 12:57 PM

Did JS ever become involved with the velvet mafia?

by Anonymousreply 82January 21, 2018 1:14 PM

I never met him, but I did have a brief chat with Bubblz La Rue in a Denver club (The Metro?) in the mid 1990s. Not bragging, just a comment. She/he was nice enough, good drag performer.

by Anonymousreply 83January 21, 2018 1:16 PM

Who is Austin?

by Anonymousreply 84January 21, 2018 1:17 PM

Do you remember when Chi Chi was one some talk show, maybe Jerry Springer and Jeff Stryker and Gino Colbert were in the audience in sunglasses. They stood up and accused LaRue of all sorts of things. At one point, Stryker called her "little queen" to which she responded "I'm a big queen." Point CCR. At one time on the show, CCR talked about Stefano and said that he was a mess at any rate. He tried to be a DJ, it lasted a day, he tried other occupations, they often lasted a day. CCR was an enabler but I agree Joey was the car wreck.

by Anonymousreply 85January 21, 2018 2:20 PM

Chi Chi always did videos of gay men having sex with women, like Joey Stefano, Damien, and Blake Riley.

I guess that is a fetish of his.

by Anonymousreply 86January 21, 2018 2:26 PM

Anyone remember when he was in the Johnny Depp Clones?

by Anonymousreply 87January 21, 2018 4:05 PM

To R85 -

I believe Stryker also accused Chi Chi of letting Joey perform in movies even after Joey was HIV+.

by Anonymousreply 88January 21, 2018 4:11 PM

R88, that sounds familiar from the show. I think Stryker said on the show that CCR allowed performers with AIDS to continue performing to which CCR challenged them to name names. Maybe that's when he said Stefano, but that I don't remember. I do remember CCR said that Joey looked like Tom Cruise and was the most gorgeous man.

by Anonymousreply 89January 21, 2018 4:13 PM

Nicholas "Joey Stefano" Iacona Jr., was an absolutely beautiful young man.

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by Anonymousreply 90January 21, 2018 4:20 PM

[quote] Point CCR. At one time on the show, CCR talked about Stefano and said that he was a mess at any rate. He tried to be a DJ, it lasted a day, he tried other occupations, they often lasted a day. CCR was an enabler but I agree Joey was the car wreck.

Leave me out of this. You too, R89.

by Anonymousreply 91January 21, 2018 4:38 PM

Oh honey, R88, wake up and smell the coffee. Over half — at least — of gay porn "stars" are HIV+, and the rate was even higher when Chi Chi was taking advantage of them. I don't even have to point to any statistics to demonstrate this: just look at the mortality rate for gay porn "stars" and see for yourself.

This is not rocket science.

I laugh at the people defending Chi Chi vis-à-vis Joey Stefano. When a dealer buys the drugs, sells, uses them as payment, or just plain gives the drugs to user/addict, they are as responsible for that person's death as though they held a gun to their head and pulled the trigger. The law prosecutes drug dealers differently than drug users for a reason. The only fact keeping Chi Chi out of prison as an unindicted co-conspirator is that Joey Stefano was a mess that no one, including Chi Chi, cared about (once they were done masturbating to his image, and I use that term literally and figuratively).

by Anonymousreply 92January 21, 2018 4:39 PM

Joey was obsessed with Jon Vincent.

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by Anonymousreply 93January 21, 2018 9:11 PM

I never understood the adulation of Stefano. Yes he was a gorgeous guy, but the vast majority of his performances were far less than energetic. I always attributed it to the dope.

by Anonymousreply 94January 21, 2018 10:24 PM

Who is the person referring to Chi Chi LaRue as CCR. It would be CCL.

by Anonymousreply 95January 21, 2018 10:25 PM

[quote] When a dealer buys the drugs, sells, uses them as payment, or just plain gives the drugs to user/addict, they are as responsible for that person's death as though they held a gun to their head and pulled the trigger.

This assumes that Chi Chi was Stefano's one-and-only drug dealer. If we go with the allegation that Chi Chi was operating a candy store on the set of his film shoots, that ignores the fact that a large percentage of Stefano's movies were done at other studios for other directors. Our resident porn historians can confirm the facts, but off the top of my head ... Matt Sterling, Jim Steel, Gino Colbert, John Travis, and others had their fingers on the trigger of the metaphorical gun.

Outside of porn, Stefano was deep in the darker, more dangerous, world of prostitution. Was Chi Chi following him from date to date with a straw under his nose? Stefano traveled back and forth from California to New York, making appearances, dancing, and whoring himself to wealthy men. Is everyone on a loooonng list of "unindicted co-conspirators" including half a dozen gay porn directors, the Gaiety Theatre, Robin Byrd, etc, etc.j Everyone was over 18 and enjoying the party. Rest in peace to the dead.

by Anonymousreply 96January 22, 2018 12:12 AM

Porn stars aren't exactly Stable Mable before they enter porn. You don't go from mowing lawns for extra cash and making the Dean's list to getting fisted on a lazy susan overnight.

by Anonymousreply 97January 22, 2018 12:20 AM

I think Chi Chi was an enabler of Stefano but was by no means his only one. You could also point to pimp David Forrest. I think there were rumors he was a kept boy by Geffen. At the end of the day, whatever money Stefano earned, he blew on drugs.

by Anonymousreply 98January 22, 2018 12:22 AM

R96/R98: Note, I said *co* conspirator. I don't think Chi Chi was Stefano's one and only drug dealer; just when Joey was in California — where he lived. Like most junkies, he had sources all over, but that's not the point. Chi Chi cast himself as Stefano's friend and mentor, and turned around and sold/gave/paid him in drugs. Maybe — and do I need to point out a big maybe? — if Chi Chi had been the friend he claimed to Stefano, he wouldn't have od'ed.

Chi Chi saw dollar signs when he looked at Stefano. Don't kid yourselves.

by Anonymousreply 99January 22, 2018 12:28 AM

Chi Chi, Stefano, and hundreds of other guys on the gay nightlife/porn scene of the '90s where all "bump buddies." Drugged out birds of a feather who flocked together.

Perhaps if Stefano was a better friend, Chi Chi wouldn't be in and out of rehab and allegedly living in his mother's basement. See how any argument can be crafted to allow grown men to not take responsibility for their lives?

by Anonymousreply 100January 22, 2018 12:57 AM

Except it wasn't Stefano supplying Chi Chi, and it wasn't Stefano who, years later, tried to claim he was Stefano's friend and helped him to get off drugs (but failed).

by Anonymousreply 101January 22, 2018 1:03 AM

dat ho still alive ???

by Anonymousreply 102January 22, 2018 1:10 AM

Chi Chi supplied drugs to keep the good times going. Chi Chi was Stefano's friend, and Chi Chi made attempt(s) to get him off of drugs.

All three statements might be true. But the idea that Chi Chi is the one who should have been able to break through his drug addled haze and help a fellow addict is ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 103January 22, 2018 1:18 AM

I don't understand why anyone here is defending Chi Chi, unless it's Chi Chi defending herself.

by Anonymousreply 104January 22, 2018 1:28 AM

Guilty conscious? Striking a little too close to home?

by Anonymousreply 105January 22, 2018 1:29 AM

So do you queens not think that Joey Stefano had any responsibility for the choices he made in life? He chose to be a porn star, hooker and drug addict. Whether he was enabled or helped or encouraged is not the point. His life. His responsibility.

by Anonymousreply 106January 22, 2018 1:37 AM

Stefano and Chi Chi were both big time addicts. Chi Chi likely still is. No friend is responsible for another friend's actions - they were not in an abusive romantic relationship, no one held a gun to another's head to force illegal drug use, no one was a sole employer who used his position and power to force the other into depravity. Chi Chi is no great or respectable individual, but he is not the man who "murdered" Stefano either. He had a longer run with porn success because he was never attractive or the talent so-to-speak. The stars never last - always a flash in the pan for one reason or the other. Chi Chi was lucky and likely conniving to some degree - but he had a great run at success in an industry that has few success stories. "Joey" led a life filled with drugs and prostitution before ever setting foot in California. He was gorgeous and certainly an abused kid (sexually and otherwise) - so I have nothing negative to say about his actions other than that they were self-destructive. His beauty is missed; he was one of a kind.

by Anonymousreply 107January 22, 2018 1:54 AM

R107, I'm pretty sure Stefano said he was molested by a Priest. I think he also got into hooking at around 15, long before Chi Chi.

by Anonymousreply 108January 22, 2018 1:56 AM

[quote]Guilty conscious?

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 109January 22, 2018 3:09 AM

[quote]I'm pretty sure Stefano said he was molested by a Priest

Was it Pat Priest?

by Anonymousreply 110January 22, 2018 3:10 AM

[R94]

Forget Stefano. I will never understand why any porn performer would be subject to fascination, period. Some are very attractive, sure. But hot guys are a dime a dozen. And the skills it takes to be a good porn star do not necessarily overlap with that of a good lover. Seriously, whatever other things those individuals bring to the table in their "real life", I fail to see why one would be fascinated by them only based on their looks and the fact they are doing porn. Gays really need to get better heroes.

by Anonymousreply 111January 22, 2018 3:46 AM

R64

Her Facebook feed last weekend was full of pictures of - a considerably slimmed down - Dean Monroe so at least she is still good friends with him.

by Anonymousreply 112January 22, 2018 3:48 AM

a considerably slimmed down - Dean Monroe "Dying of AIDS"

by Anonymousreply 113January 22, 2018 5:26 AM

OH r107, pull your head out of your ass.. Joey wasn't "one of a kind". He was a trashed out junkie whore looking for his next fix to dull the pain of living. R111 is right, you need to find new heroes..

by Anonymousreply 114January 22, 2018 6:01 AM

The company and friends someone keeps reflect on that someone. When you have toxic friends who are drug addicts and don't see anything wrong with that then you are most likely toxic and a drug addict, too.

by Anonymousreply 115January 22, 2018 6:21 AM

The Jerry Springer-like tv show was the short-lived Marilyn Kagan Show. We were neighbors many years ago. We used to walk our dogs together. At the time, she had just started a weekend radio talk show on 640-KFI in Los Angeles. She was talking about this other radio personality who had become a friend. A woman named Dr. Laura Schlessinger. She said Laura was very sweet, but there was something about her that Marilyn didn't trust.

by Anonymousreply 116January 22, 2018 6:39 AM

[quote] Forget Stefano. I will never understand why any porn performer would be subject to fascination, period

To "fascinate" defined as "to draw irresistibly the attention and interest of (someone)."

[quote] I fail to see why one would be fascinated by them only based on their looks and the fact they are doing porn. Gays really need to get better heroes.

Fascination, attraction, and allure are all primary based on visual appeal. Joey Stefano was an attractive man. He's good looks sold millions of VHS tapes, DVDs, and even Madonnas "Sex" book. It's easy to see why guys are still fascinated. No one is claiming Joey Stefano as their "hero."

by Anonymousreply 117January 22, 2018 6:45 AM

R67 I might have met you mohawked punk....I worked at that same store.

And, it was mid 80s. Larry/Chi Chi moved to LA in....86?

And, Larry used to score LOTS of big black straight dick in Mpls. He'd walk down the street in drag and cars would pull up to chat him up and Larry would get in to blow some dude.

In drag, ANYONE can snag some pretty amazing dick...ANYONE.

by Anonymousreply 118January 22, 2018 6:59 AM

R114 - I do no recollect calling Joey a "hero". He was a beautiful man however and despite the "dime a dozen" hot men all over the place (I would say that stunning beauty is more rare than that usually..) - he was a looker. Porn actors are an interesting sociological study in celebrity and desire. They often achieve both but never as effortlessly as legitimate Hollywood actors. Considering that they are often (if not always) one dimensional - looks and no acting talent - this is understandable. Also, the stigma of porn smears them with a huge scarlet letter that they can never shake (Jenna Jameson and Traci Lords could not for heaven's sake).

by Anonymousreply 119January 22, 2018 7:08 AM

But r28: ‘Chi Chi’ *is* pronounced ‘She She’.

by Anonymousreply 120January 22, 2018 7:26 AM

Chi Chi might have been a mess and an enabler but he/she according to most was never intentionally hurtful or dangerous, Michael Lucas, on the other hand, is said to be genuinely evil, some of the rumors about the things he has done are chilling.

by Anonymousreply 121January 22, 2018 10:09 AM

[quote] Stefano and Chi Chi were both big time addicts. Chi Chi likely still is.

Well of course CCLR is still a drug addict, if he's still alive. Once an addict, always an addict, whether you're using or not. And that goes for alcohol as well.

by Anonymousreply 122January 22, 2018 12:04 PM

[quote] I will never understand why any porn performer would be subject to fascination, period.

R111 and since you've seconded his opinion, R114, let an eldergay shed some light on why porn "stars" are "heroes" (your word, not mine). In the age of real gay heroes (like Edie Windsor and Jim Obergefell), marriage equality, social acceptance, and an atmosphere lacking fear on coming out, I acknowledge your lack of understanding as to why porn models were looked up to and at; but when I was a gay kid struggling with coming out (and watching out for dinosaurs so they wouldn't step on and squash me ;) there were few if any gay role models or "heroes".

Now, before you go on a rant and dress me down for describing a porn star as a role model (which they most certainly are not), let me point out that prior to the 90s, there were no (as in zero) positive depictions of gay people on TV or in the movies. We had no Anderson Cooper, nor a Ricky Martin, Ellen Degeneres, or even RuPaul, for example. The only positive and affirming depictions of gay men were in porn movies where they were happy, healthy and didn't end up dead or in prison by the end of the movie. Yeah, looking back, it was sad that this is where I and millions of my brothers turned for affirmation... but at least we had something to look at, as compared to guys even a few years older. Maybe you can see why porn was (and is, to some degree) so important to men of my generation.

Further, viewed in this context, maybe you can understand why gay porn's response to the AIDS crisis was so devastating. Actual sex was fraught with personal risk, negative public opinion, was dangerous and often conducted in the closet. But porn was carefree and fun... and then suddenly a constant reminder of pending death. Chi Chi, in her campaign of condoms, exclusion, guilt-by-association, and splitting the industry into factions, took away one of the few affirming depictions of gay men. Chi Chi never understood this, and still doesn't, to this day. And in his fervency to do something(!) regardless of efficacy and outcome, and his relentless campaign to vilify anyone and everyone who disagreed with his position, sowed the seeds of gay porn's demise.

by Anonymousreply 123January 22, 2018 8:43 PM

Chi Chi and porn star Ryan Rose from this weekend's GayVN Awards (she won Best Director.)

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by Anonymousreply 124January 22, 2018 11:04 PM

[quote] she (CCLR) won Best Director

And THAT pretty much tells you just how far the gay pron industry has sunk.

by Anonymousreply 125January 23, 2018 12:58 AM

Chi Chi survived because she works for the mob and always knows where the bodies in the porn industry are buried.

by Anonymousreply 126January 23, 2018 1:05 AM

AMEN R123!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 127January 23, 2018 2:16 AM

How many cocks do you think someone like Joey Stefano took in his lifetime?

by Anonymousreply 128January 23, 2018 2:22 AM

looking at photos of Stefano I don't get it , nice eyes for sure but he wasn't that attractive to get soo much hype. His lips were thin and jawline mushy, and his body and cock unremarkable.

by Anonymousreply 129January 23, 2018 2:30 AM

R128 Whatever the number, it was still never enough.

by Anonymousreply 130January 23, 2018 4:57 AM

How did Chi Chi win for directing? WTF did he direct?

I mean, I like Larry but he hasn't made much porn lately and hasn't made GOOD porn since the Millennium...

by Anonymousreply 131January 23, 2018 6:59 AM

[quote] Further, viewed in this context, maybe you can understand why gay porn's response to the AIDS crisis was so devastating. Actual sex was fraught with personal risk, negative public opinion, was dangerous and often conducted in the closet. But porn was carefree and fun... and then suddenly a constant reminder of pending death. Chi Chi, in her campaign of condoms, exclusion, guilt-by-association, and splitting the industry into factions, took away one of the few affirming depictions of gay men.

As someone who became sexually active in the mid 90's, watched porn, used condoms, stayed HIV negative, and continues to use condoms and stay negative ... I'd like to say "Fuck off." We rightfully criticized Reagan (and many subsequent administrations) for not funding safer-sex education, and now you criticize a prominent gay man who used his influence to promote safe sex? At a time when condoms where the only things keeping gay men safe? Was it because the little white ring at the base of the condom spoiled your fantasy? What a selfish moron.

Today, we have young gay men with an endless pool of "carefree" bareback sex. They think condoms are outdated, and accordingly, STD infections are skyrocketing. Thanks to PreP, HIV infection rates have lowered (long term effects are ... I guess we'll cross that bridge whenever.) And now, thanks to the cocktail, fewer poz guys are getting sick and dying.

There's no shortage of things to slam Chi Chi over, but her anti-bareback/pro-condom stance is not one of them.

Few people will admit that porn audiences are very "monkey-see-monkey-do" and get a great deal of health/sex education from pornography.

by Anonymousreply 132January 23, 2018 7:30 AM

This is exactly the response I expected when I posted. And you've certainly thrown the entire kitchen sink at me. I was amazed that this thread hadn't already devolved into insults, pontification and vilification of anyone who doesn't agree 100% with Chi Chi's agenda; The points I made still stand on their own. Regardless:

[quote]As someone who became sexually active in the mid 90's, watched porn, used condoms, stayed HIV negative, and continues to use condoms and stay negative ...

Good for you. Are you trying to say that if you hadn't seen condoms in porn, you wouldn't have thought to use them either independently or based on public health education?

[quote]We rightfully criticized Reagan (and many subsequent administrations) for not funding safer-sex education,

Let's unpack this statement. Yes, Reagan did NOTHING for gays facing an existential crisis, even laughing at us in the White House briefing room, as though we deserved to die. Nevertheless, his Surgeon General risked and lost his career over the pamphlet he sent to every household in America during the crisis' early days. That, my friend, was a heavy lift, and goes without any recognition.

But then came the Clintons, who worked on sex education to their peril. The right still drags out one of their first uses of fake news, when they said and say that Hillary decorated a WH Christmas tree with cockrings and condoms. Gee, I wonder why they say that? Let me answer that for the cognitively impaired: because the Clintons were at the forefront of dealing with the AIDS crisis, and while what they did was just scratch the surface, at least they didn't laugh at our demise. And they funded sex education and specifically HIV awareness, to their detriment.

Bush the younger actually did a great deal in the fight against HIV, to his credit, and was continued by Obama. Now, the orange turd is turning back the clock.

I am not saying that the government did what it should have done, or even that its efforts were commendable. The role of government is to handle crises like this, but don't lump partisan blaming in with inaction. It's inaccurate and, frankly, not fair to the politicians who did take action and appropriated hundreds of $millions in research, outreach, and programs to reach the community.

by Anonymousreply 133January 24, 2018 3:33 AM

[quote]and now you criticize a prominent gay man who used his influence to promote safe sex?

You're damn right I criticize an overweight, drug-addled drag queen who ignored the panoply of science-based actions and results to only further his own career. In Chi Chi's rush to judgement, he used whatever influence he had to compel the entire industry into a form of self-censorship that I and many others have argued was counterproductive and actually harmful to getting the right message into the right hands at the right time.

I can forgive your lack of awareness of what was going on both in the world as well as the gay porn industry (such as it was and is) as your matured. There were only a handful of producers at that point, mostly small divisions within the larger straight porn business, and they had no interest in fighting with the one consistent producer who was, for better or worse, making them money. You may not know that Chuck Holmes, the founder and CEO of Falcon was the last to jump on the condom bandwagon, rightly pointing out that his audience did not want to see condoms and that it was setting the company and the industry up for disruptors to come in and steal their thunder.

But as an HIV+ man himself faced with his own demise, he gave in to Chi Chi's demands as he held him over the barrel with the threat to walk from producing for Falcon, and take the talent with him. I've heard contemporaneous accounts of how Chi Chi threatened Chuck and how had Chuck been in better health he would have fought Chi Chi harder. It's a sad irony that the disease that cost Chuck his life also cost Falcon their leadership status in the industry, and common sense lost to hysteria.

Chuck's argument, again according to people who knew him, was that Chi Chi's approach was short sighted and lacked any foundation for long term success in combating the spread of HIV. I may be giving him too much credit in this analysis, but whatever and however he stated it was fortuitous; simply telling gay men to use condoms as the only course of action to prevent the spread of HIV was going to only work marginally, ignored the efficacy of condoms, and that proper and consistent use was mandatory.

One of the criticisms that bothered Chi Chi (again, based on accounts, his reaction, and commentary over the years) was that there was no need for education on how to use condoms, so much so that he never bothered to show any of the performers applying one (because that wasn't "sexy"), never discussed the potential for failure, never brought up the requirement for 100% perfectly consistent use (until much later, with his much-ridiculed "warp it up" campaign that was rightly mocked and dismissed), and even ignored the fact that condoms have never been approved by the FDA for male-male contact (and for good reason: there is a difference between vaginal and anal intercourse).

I get it. It was a panicked reactionary response to a crisis already in progress. It was something. It was important. And, by and large, a failure. The spread of HIV went on, unabated, for years. The message was lost on the audience, who hated it, and the public at large, who recognized it as a short-term solution to a long-term crisis that was inadequate.

Leaders (actual, real men and women who fought in the trenches throughout the crisis) [italic]did[/italic] discuss these facts; that the long-term solution was funding research that lead to drugs to stop the disease's progression and transmission (ineptly and accurately labelled "a cure," but that's another topic altogether), that education on how the virus is transmitted, and why it was particularly prone to spread among gay men, and that communication and negotiation was and is the best long-term tool to prevent the spread of HIV. These arguments were lost in the whirlwind and controversy over condoms in porn, thanks to Chi Chi.

It is a sad commentary on the gay community that Chi Chi LaRue was ever considered "prominent".

by Anonymousreply 134January 24, 2018 3:34 AM

[quote]Was it because the little white ring at the base of the condom spoiled your fantasy? What a selfish moron.

Ahh, funny that you reduce it to... that. I'll let you in on a dirty little secret, shared with me by a porn "star" that I knew from long before he was ever in a movie: that little white ring was just that. The models didn't like the condoms any more than the audience. My acquaintance reported that on set after set, they'd try to fuck with condoms, and the tops couldn't get or stay hard using condoms, and/or without chemical enhancement. Bottoms would complain of latex allergy, discomfort, and lack of enjoyment. Their solution: cut the damn condom just above the ring, and make it [italic]look like[/italic] they were using condoms when, in fact, they were not. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[quote]Today, we have young gay men with an endless pool of "carefree" bareback sex. They think condoms are outdated

I'd argue that it is no more "carefree" now than in was 20 years ago. Two points: at least they're aware of the risk; and, to be blunt, the condom message is, in fact, outdated. If your argument is no further than:

[quote]and accordingly, STD infections are skyrocketing.

then you have no understanding of epidemiology or human behavior. In case you're not aware, a prescription for PrEP requires a doctor visit every 90 days, in which you are tested for STDs (resulting in the spike of reported cases cropping up causing hand-wringing here) and liver function (so as to prevent the long-term issues you touched on with your snark, at least in part), The introduction of PrEP was not the willy-nilly response that you're trying to paint it as, and despite everything wrong with healthcare in this country, PrEP is backed by science, protocol, and decades of experience at all levels of HIV treatment.

[quote]There's no shortage of things to slam Chi Chi over, but her anti-bareback/pro-condom stance is not one of them.

As I have done throughout this thread. Chi Chi is a dispicable creature not worthy of the credit you try to give him. I'm beginning to think Chi Chi is on this thread; there seems to be a conspicuous attempt to defend him, as though he was worthy. Are you Chi Chi, R132?

[quote]Few people will admit that porn audiences are very "monkey-see-monkey-do" and get a great deal of health/sex education from pornography.

That's because it is a very small percentage of viewers that are that naive. This brings me back to my initial point: that porn is fantasy and should have remained in that realm. To whit, we don't say they shouldn't make movies like The Fast and The Furious because someone drives recklessly; we don't say they shouldn't make the Saw series because someone has fantasies if cutting people into pieces. We rightly see these examples as outliers, and gay porn is no different.

tl;dr: If you can't separate fantasy from reality, you have more problems than watching too much porn.

by Anonymousreply 135January 24, 2018 3:35 AM

[quote]tl;dr: If you can't separate fantasy from reality, you have more problems than watching too much porn.

Yes R123 / R135 ... It was too long, but I did read your posting. Most of what I had to say is at R132, so my rebuttal is simple and I'll keep it brief.

In the 90's,the gay community drastically slowed HIV infections through a wide spectrum of education initiatives. Condoms were on MTV, on the sides of buses driving down the street, in rap lyrics, at your favorite gay nightclub, in your favorite gay porn VHS tapes .... everywhere! We achieved a great deal of success through this campaign. Once the decision was made to move to HIV-prevention to the form of a pill, condom promotion was drastically reduced. The anti-condom brigade touted this as "condom fatigue." Never mind the correlation between education and healthy practices of all kinds: sex, smoking, diet, exercise, etc.

Porn, and porn stars, were a part of that successful pro-condom educational campaign. R135's comparison to "Saw" movies makes no sense. Those are fantasy movies with fake blood and plastic knives. Today's porn studios have real HIV positive men ejaculating into HIV negative men. Bareback fantasy entertainment with real world consequences. And while you may dismiss the educational role of porn for young gay men, until school systems around the world offer sex education (including gay sex) internet porn will remain a way to reach and inform gay men.

So, Chi Chi, and anyone else who uses their platform to promote safe-sex and speak out against barebacking, gets a gold star in my book. Anyone who declines extra money to continue to promote safe sex gets an extra gold star.

by Anonymousreply 136January 24, 2018 11:40 AM

Girls, girls! You're both cunts.

by Anonymousreply 137January 24, 2018 3:00 PM

Joey

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by Anonymousreply 138January 24, 2018 3:20 PM

You know nothing about porn and its production — or are willfully misrepresenting basic facts, Chi Chi/R132 — when you say that

[quote]Today's porn studios have real HIV positive men ejaculating into HIV negative men.

I could write another 5000 words on the topic demonstrating that you are objectively wrong, but like your response shows, when confronted, you move the goal posts. The intent of condoms in porn was only shifted to an argument that they protected the talent when the efficacy of the message — specifically, depicting them in porn was going to change behavior — was disproven. You admit as much when you detail the successful campaigns of outreach that worked,

My argument was, essentially, that Chi Chi's ramming condoms down our throats actually hurt the effort rather than help. And in the process, Chi Chi destroyed the industry with his endless carping, shaming and division. But, it's water under the bridge. We have all the bareback content we can consume — for free!

Enjoy your award for "best director." I'm sure your mother will beam with pride as it sits in your room in her basement.

by Anonymousreply 139January 24, 2018 3:57 PM

They are all disease ridden whores. Of course they are poz spreading pozness. Yuck.

by Anonymousreply 140January 24, 2018 4:50 PM

[quote] Today's porn studios have real HIV positive men ejaculating into HIV negative men.

Yes, there ARE studios filming videos with sero-discordant couples with internal cumshots. Off the top of my head, Christopher Daniel volunteered to do his first bareback scene with an HIV positive co-star. (Or, do you not consider HIV-poz and undetectable the same thing.) Video below.

There's also Sean Duran (who has shared his negative HIV test results on social media) and then got fucked by openly poz Rocco Steele. The European studios use several Latino models who are poz and versatile. They aren't out as positive, so no need to name them here, but they do ejaculate into bottoms who must be under the false assumption that Truvada is100% effective. Black gay porn is it's own world of risk dating back to the lawsuits of the CocoDorm days to RawStrokes. Believe it or not, HIV positive and negative guys ARE being paired up.

Anyway, I'm not Chi Chi, but I am a proud promoter of sex with condoms. So, it's worth a few minutes of typing to get the facts out there.

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by Anonymousreply 141January 24, 2018 5:37 PM

If there is anyone in the industry who is as big a hypocrite as Chi Chi, it's Michael Lucas. All I can say to you, R132, is that the gay porn industry is filled with hypocrites. It's shocking, but not surprising, that Michael Lucas let Christopher Daniels get fucked by an HIV+ guy and knew about it in the most direct, provable context imaginable. Prior to losing his sugar daddy (who was financing his porn "empire"), Lucas was among the most vehement of condom proponents, even going so far as to try and rally the industry to blackball Brent Corrigan for doing bareback films while underaged. Now, he's knowingly exposing employees to bloodborne pathogens. What a difference economic realities make.

Regardless, that Daniel discussed the testing protocol that he underwent for this work, and even commented that someone at the studio even said "we've never done that before" when he volunteered to have unprotected sex with an HIV+ model, shows that even the least reputable producers are testing, serosorting, and now disappointingly — and in Lucas' case, with full knowledge — abdicating their responsibility. Federal and the New York State Department of Occupational Safety and Health would have something to say about this, and I'll be forwarding the link to this video to them.

The only point you've made that I can agree with is that at least Chi Chi has forgone the bareback payday (but then again, he knows he'd be crucified if he ever did go bareback).

Regarding your "HIV positive men ejaculating into HIV negative men" point, I stand sadly corrected.

by Anonymousreply 142January 25, 2018 4:08 AM

I really do not have a dog in this condom fight - other than they can be very protective against many STDs when they are used properly. Are they fun? As a top, I can tell you that they suck - pinching off your hard-on and causing your bottom partner to complain into next week about discomfort and annoyance (poppers are helpful here for the bottom thank God). I DO believe that condom usage was a very positive theme in early 90's (and later) gay porn. When I was 12/13 yoa and my male lust was raging - those mid to late 90's porn movies were my only outlet for sex education (not to mention sexual release) and with the early internet - they were easily accessible. Actually, the movies were not - but the pictures from the films were. The condoms reassured me that I would not become infected with HIV (as a baby of the 80's we all lived in terror - particularly once you realized that you were a homo). That said, I did not exactly implement this practice into my own sex life; my first sexy fuck buddy was a closeted stud my age who I started anally sodomizing around 14 yoa (he seduced me and I was more than happy to oblige). No, we did not use condoms. By college, I did (they gave them out for free in bars, remember?) - and I am glad that I did. Years later, condom usage was based on how long I had been with whichever DL boyfriend I had at the moment (bad idea - I caught a brutal penile clap infection once from a cheating bottom bf). Years after that, I had at least one fuck buddy lube his ass with Crisco in order to sabotage my condom (freaky) and another random hookup who "excited" me while I was asleep - I later awoke to him balls deep sitting on my bare cock. He was hotter than fuck but had hepatitis I later found out - so I freaked out in silence for months until I tested clean. HIV was always a concern for me, but I never did have that terrible test turn out badly. BUT - things could have turned out differently as one never knows. To this day I do fuck with condoms; I hate them but they make my life closer to stress free from an STD standpoint. The Gonorrhea that I suffered way back was not easily treatable and led to almost a year of urinary tract discomfort that I will never forget. So.....my point is that I appreciate the condom drive of the late 80's/early 90's. I do see the hypocrisy - pos performers fucking other pos performers with condoms while never using them when not being filmed. I also will not claim that condom porn convinced me to always use condoms in my private life. That said, the visual of condom usage did influence my decisions in a positive manner and for that if for nothing else - I can thank Chi Chi to some degree.

by Anonymousreply 143January 25, 2018 4:50 AM

[quote] Seems like every couple years someone creates a new Chi Chi LaRue thread. Why?

Maybe because people don't remember the old ones? It sounds like you're archiving them and going back over them. Just how long have you been here, gramps?

by Anonymousreply 144January 25, 2018 4:54 AM

There are some UNHINGED people in this thread...

It's PORN! And, to be honest, it probably SAVED more people than it (didn't) kill. Watching other people have hot sex was the only "safe" outlet we had.

And, Joey Stefano is the only one responsible for Joey Stefano being dead....he was a pretty but vapid druggie hooker. No one forced him into being a druggie hooker. Most of the people who do porn (at least then) were not particularly bright, working class, druggie hookers.

Jesus...next thing you know, Chi Chi will be revealed to be Zodiac.

by Anonymousreply 145January 25, 2018 7:16 AM

Brendan Patrick, who is good friends with Chi Chi, actually has a tattoo that says “Stefano”.

by Anonymousreply 146January 25, 2018 3:14 PM

R145, honey, run along. The adults are talking.

by Anonymousreply 147January 25, 2018 3:37 PM

I'm not buying the poz men cumming in neg bottoms or being paired up as such. No bottom who is neg is going to let a poz top cum in them, even if they're on truvada. Unless there are drugs/chemical dependency issues involved. Or, the bottom is lying about being poz and has some sick fantasy they wanna play out about being "charged up".. Such bullshit.

And this Stefano person and all those who worship him are pathetic. Dime a dozen junkie whores. If he didn't overdose, he would have done something equally destructive later on once he realized his looks wouldn't get him what he wanted(money for drugs)...

by Anonymousreply 148January 25, 2018 6:37 PM

I don't think anybody here has "worshiped" Joey Stefano. The point I was making all along was that Chi Chi tried to claim she was Stefano's friend and mentor, while he was contributing to his drug dependency problem(s) so that Chi Chi could put him in movies and make $$ off his ass. That goes to Chi Chi's (lack of) character.

by Anonymousreply 149January 25, 2018 8:18 PM

[quote] I'm not buying the poz men cumming in neg bottoms or being paired up as such. No bottom who is neg is going to let a poz top cum in them, even if they're on truvada.

So, all of the studios and porn stars cited at R141 are lying because ...???

Even outside of porn, I've heard over and over that an HIV negative bottom on PreP has ZERO chance of contracting HIV from a positive top who is also on medication. It's insane, false, not backed by the FDA, nor Gilead, but that's the "wisdom" these fools are spreading.

by Anonymousreply 150January 25, 2018 8:38 PM

Chi Chi couldn't make it in LA, burned his bridges, and moved back to Minnesota. End of story. Tragic old queen

by Anonymousreply 151January 26, 2018 3:21 AM

I agree with a poster above however - how did he go from having a successful sex shop on Santa Monica in WEHO to moving home to his mother in Minnesota? The rent at that location alone must be $25K a month or so and he seemed really successful despite the decline in porno salary for the obvious reasons. I can't imagine that he is actually broke. That said, it is very feasible.

by Anonymousreply 152January 26, 2018 4:53 AM

Racist and all around asshole Michael Lucas makes Chi Chi look like a Saint!

by Anonymousreply 153January 26, 2018 5:49 AM

R153 - true. Chi Chi didn't make huge efforts to demean his stars - at least not publicly anyway. Michael has always been sleazy pond scum who went out of his way to torture his talent both on film and off.

by Anonymousreply 154January 26, 2018 5:53 AM

"The talented people...went bareback to spite him. "

Well they sure showed HIM!

by Anonymousreply 155January 26, 2018 7:54 AM

R147 Where, bitch?

by Anonymousreply 156January 26, 2018 8:07 AM

It's quite sad but Joey Stefano (and many more before and since him) was a guy who was drop dead gorgeous but probably had an IQ in the 70-90 range.

by Anonymousreply 157January 26, 2018 12:12 PM

Did Chi Chi help Ryan Idol get his tits reduced? Is Ryan still in jail for trying to kill someone with a toilet? LOL some people you just can save.

by Anonymousreply 158January 26, 2018 12:14 PM

Don't prison sentences usually last about 1/3 of the sentenced term before the prisoner is let out on parole (if he's had good behavior)? In that case I wonder if Ryan Idol won't be getting out soon. He was sentenced in 2012 to 12 years. He's now been inside for 5 years. That's more than 1/3 of his sentence. I guess unless this was a federal sentence where there is no parole. I'm anxious to see that big ol' hairy daddy after years being locked up. I hope he hasn't gotten fat or covered his beautiful body with nasty prison tats.

by Anonymousreply 159January 26, 2018 1:10 PM

He just won Best Director at the Porn Award for a Falcon movie called Earthbound (Heaven to Hell Sequel). So, apparently, he's still working in the industry.

by Anonymousreply 160January 26, 2018 1:18 PM

Porn doesn't pay. I believe ChiChi is like all the porn stars / models / performers making more money with DJ / club appearances than with porn. It's all (self) promotion now. Unless you are a studio like BelAmi limiting your stars' fan access.

by Anonymousreply 161January 26, 2018 1:23 PM

R129 i agree. When i was younger i worshipped stefano like everyone else. Now that im older i just don't see it. He's attractive but pretty basic actually. Michael lucas begged me to do porn for him in the mid 2000s for like a year. We would hang out. Take me out to dinner. Give me free movies. I would visit him in his office and we make out heavy. I thought he was a soap star. Haha. Shocked me when i found out he did porn. He had a beautiful home on 23rd street in chelsea with that big ass dog. Next to east of eighth where we would grab food. He said he would be my mentor and make me a millionaire. Told me lots of stuff about his family and how he moved them all here with his earnings. He was nice to me but scary. I was like 24. He was so sexual and then he wanted to fuck and i said no but we kept in touch. I dated this really hot guy briefly who chi chi was obsessed with. HUGE cock. Like, abnormal. Wanted him to do porn badly. He was friends with erik rhodes. At a party one night he went to pee and chi chi followed him into the stall. Chi chi started grabbing his piss with his hands and drinking it. Haha.

by Anonymousreply 162January 26, 2018 2:34 PM

Stefano was one of the few porn stars who were celebrated for being a bottom in an era where tops were idolized.

by Anonymousreply 163January 26, 2018 2:41 PM

Is Cristopher Daniels still working? He looks like shit in that clip.

by Anonymousreply 164January 26, 2018 3:58 PM

[quote] Is Cristopher Daniels still working? He looks like shit in that clip.

Yes ... Working as an escort.

His autobiography is a quick fun read.

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by Anonymousreply 165January 26, 2018 4:13 PM

I don't think Daniels is working as an escort anymore. He definitely looks POZ.

by Anonymousreply 166January 26, 2018 4:54 PM

r160 see r124.

by Anonymousreply 167January 27, 2018 1:33 AM

Chi Chi's straight worshipping ass gets a boner again when someone entertained the idea of including straight porn to gay porn

Chi Chi: "I've been repressed for YEARS from converting gay men, finally another straight worshipper that gets the idea that I'm looking for! But to be safe, I'm gonna write *no crossovers* despite making crossover films before.."

by Anonymousreply 168January 28, 2018 1:20 PM

Forgot the link.

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by Anonymousreply 169January 28, 2018 1:20 PM

People who use the word "read" as a noun deserve their herpes.

by Anonymousreply 170January 28, 2018 1:21 PM

Jeez. Chi Chi's boner is out of control. He literally liked and retweeted EVERYTHING the guy said. How desperate 😂

by Anonymousreply 171January 28, 2018 1:39 PM

[quote]But to be safe, I'm gonna write *no crossovers* despite making crossover films before.."

And there you have Chi Chi, summed up in a single sentence.

by Anonymousreply 172January 28, 2018 7:40 PM

Chi Chi works for the Mafia & that is her source of power in porn (which is controlled by the criminal mob).

by Anonymousreply 173January 29, 2018 2:45 AM

is the mob still a thing?

They used to be hugely involved in porn when it was an actual product with tapes/dvds and theaters and porn stores. But, that's mostly gone. Since it's mostly digital, why do you need the mob involved?

by Anonymousreply 174January 29, 2018 6:50 AM

The few studios left are funded with dirty mob and drug money. Chi Chi used also be involved in pimping porn actors for $ as escorts.

by Anonymousreply 175January 31, 2018 7:39 AM

This is like a list of all the porn directors I hate. Jeez.

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by Anonymousreply 176February 2, 2018 3:07 AM

Who did Chi Chi suck at the awards show?

by Anonymousreply 177February 2, 2018 9:38 PM

Is Chi Chi LaRue still alive and director porn?

by Anonymousreply 178February 4, 2018 5:58 AM

How does one keep an erection when being directed by that A-Typical queen ?

by Anonymousreply 179February 4, 2018 6:07 AM

Did she have the sex change operation?

by Anonymousreply 180February 7, 2018 9:32 PM

R180 No Chi Chi is just a drag queen. Not trans.

by Anonymousreply 181February 8, 2018 6:29 PM

Chi Chi has a new movie, "The Graduation", from Icon Male coming out next month.

What happened to Mitch Vaughn? He's looks thinner and older.

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by Anonymousreply 182February 8, 2018 6:33 PM

What's with all them ugly tattoos!!!

by Anonymousreply 183February 8, 2018 10:28 PM

So she doesn't have a front bumm

by Anonymousreply 184February 9, 2018 2:00 AM

Chi chi is pre-op Trans.

by Anonymousreply 185February 9, 2018 2:04 AM

for those wondering

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by Anonymousreply 186February 9, 2018 3:09 AM

Does she sell gender neutral Chi Chi dolls at her fabulous boutique?

by Anonymousreply 187February 9, 2018 4:44 AM

Chi chi La Rue is a walking con job! Her 15 minutes of fame are long over

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by Anonymousreply 188February 10, 2018 9:12 PM

Part time plus commission?! Commission for what? Dildo sales?

by Anonymousreply 189February 10, 2018 9:20 PM

OMG, r182

Mitch Vaughn has been hitting the meth pipe HARD and constant!

He aged 20 years in 5. Faces of Meth, people.

It's a pity -- he's from my hometown and used to look good.

by Anonymousreply 190February 11, 2018 5:55 PM

R190 That was one of the things I suspected (the other that he was ill). He has looked like that for about two years now. He quit posting on social media about that time as well. He has done only two scenes other than for Chi Chi since he starting looking that. I can't imagine he's gotten many other, if any work offers, either.

Hope he gets it's together. He seems like a nice enough guy in the interviews he's given.

by Anonymousreply 191February 16, 2018 7:20 AM

Barry Manilow is a fan of Chi Chi's and attended one of his shows.

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by Anonymousreply 192February 18, 2018 8:25 AM

r186 i must admit that access to the entire all worlds and dirk yates catalogs has my attention. maybe chi chi could find my beloved bryce london?

by Anonymousreply 193February 18, 2018 8:36 AM

Is Chi Chi finally transitioning into a female?

by Anonymousreply 194February 21, 2018 1:03 AM

I sat behind her at Go Go's concert in 2007 at the Greek and I saw her he spit on the ground! AND she was eating a meatball sandwich!

by Anonymousreply 195February 21, 2018 1:22 AM

have known many pornstars over the years, theyr all as differnet as the clouds....

some are shallow, but most have a fun personality beneath the hard shell, u just have to win their trust.

have become friends with many.

joey stefano was a blast, god he was hot, we had good chats...

ii never thought alot of chi chi, her style was predictable.

by Anonymousreply 196February 21, 2018 2:39 AM

you dam right he was fun....

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by Anonymousreply 197February 21, 2018 2:41 AM

Joey was gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 198February 21, 2018 4:22 AM

Before my time but Joey looks a bit like that other Joey from Friends. Also before my time, but reruns. LeBlanc is much better looking. Stefano wasn't really gorgeous. Nice ass though, I looked it up!

by Anonymousreply 199February 21, 2018 4:32 AM

Was Chi Chi the reason for Joey's death?

by Anonymousreply 200February 21, 2018 4:36 AM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That said, comparing Stefano to LeBlanc is like comparing Cristal to Korbel..

by Anonymousreply 201February 21, 2018 4:37 AM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and in the lustful lost memories of the eldergay. Stefano was not champagne dude. He looked like someone who moved stuff. Grunt.

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by Anonymousreply 202February 21, 2018 4:43 AM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and in the lustful lost memories of the eldergay. Stefano was not champagne dude. He looked like someone who moved stuff. Grunt.

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by Anonymousreply 203February 21, 2018 4:46 AM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and in the lustful faded memories of youth. Stefano was not champagne dude. He looked like someone who moved stuff. Grunt.

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by Anonymousreply 204February 21, 2018 4:47 AM

Actually, Joey moving stuff is a good thing. Sweaty little stud works,

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by Anonymousreply 205February 21, 2018 4:54 AM

You can throw out the "eldergay card" all that your little, precious , pink heart desires, but Joey had a legion of fans in the youngest of the Gen X crowd. He had been dead for ages, but his style of bareback porn appealed to us when condom only porn was the industry norm and we were not really excited with the offerings of that time. Many 17/18 yoa guys in the early 2000's were renting gay porn from seedy video rental stores to record or burn it at home were all about the 80's pre-condom flicks. Iif we were tops, many of us became obsessed with the likes of Joey and Kevin Williams and Bill Henson among others. Not that you care - but pre-condom was a fetish back then and not only for those who were alive during Watergate.

by Anonymousreply 206February 21, 2018 5:23 AM

Ugh, enough with this Joey guy.. He was a dime a dozen junkie whore. Get over yourselves, he's fucking DEAD!!!

by Anonymousreply 207February 21, 2018 5:25 AM

Chi Chi murdered Joey!

by Anonymousreply 208February 21, 2018 5:34 AM

r176 Billy Santorum has a Porn Gossip site?

WTF?

Does he dish on himself?

The spouse abuse?

The fact he's a Republican?

The jobs he got canned from for stealing?

by Anonymousreply 209February 21, 2018 6:00 AM

Sanctum Santorum!

by Anonymousreply 210February 22, 2018 6:43 PM

I thought Chi LaRue had retired to Wilton Manors?

by Anonymousreply 211February 24, 2018 5:12 AM

Just saw her in Vegas and she walks with a limp. Also, she drinks like a fucking fish..

by Anonymousreply 212March 1, 2018 5:02 AM

Recent podcast interview

Skip to 9:10 ... Chi Chi is laying the rhetorical ground work for moving into bareback. Sounds like he'll do one this year.

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by Anonymousreply 213March 1, 2018 5:19 AM

Is Chi Chi drinking again?

by Anonymousreply 214March 1, 2018 5:28 AM

Is Chi Chi really drinking and doing drugs again? :(

by Anonymousreply 215March 3, 2018 10:43 PM
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