How come Diane Keaton didn't fuck any black guys in 'Looking for Mr. Goodbar'?

I went down on my 400-pound black maid! Now I know how Tallulah Bankhead must have felt.

Roseann Quinn was a wanton whore, Diane Keaton played a much more respectable type of whore.

The guy who sold her coke in the club?

I MUST re-read the book.

We were due another Goodbar thread.

They come like clockwork.

Interesting new angle, OP.

She mostly talks about the men. You see very few except for Gere, Berenger and one businessman.'

Levar Burton is there to show what a great teacher she is. That family is pretty hopeless regarding the daughter but she gets thru to the kid. Burton picks her up at school and has told his mom how wonderful she is. When Keaton meets the mother she is initially hostile think she is another social worker but when Burton says that she is the teacher the mother's face lights up indicating she has heard how wonderful Keaton is with her daughter.

(BTW I always thought that woman who played the mother really gave a nice performance for the one scene she is in.)

[quote]How come Diane Keaton didn't fuck any black guys in 'Looking for Mr. Goodbar'?

The same question could be asked about Jack Weston in [italic]The Ritz[/italic] and Red Buttons in [italic]Pete's Dragon[/italic].

Richard Brooks who made this film was known for his daring (at least at the time) racial-themed movies in the 1950's and making Sidney Poitier a star so I'm sure he'd have no problems with writing a scene like that if he wanted to. But as R5 pointed out, there aren't really that many sex scenes in the film. All sex scenes feature only major characters and since there are no black characters in the book a scene of Diane shagging some random black dude would feel out of place.

But speaking of Brooks, he was all wrong for this film. The directon is heavy-handed and much of the film looks like it was filmed on a backlot in LA - just look at how phony those exterior scenes where Diane brings the little back girl home or the New Year's Eve party with the drag queens look. It's like watching an episode of Murder She Wrote! The interior scenes look even more tragic.

The one scene that always bothers me is when she oversleeps and is late for work and her class is just left to run wild. When she gets there the principal puts her in the room and says deal with them.

Couldn't the principal have taken over the class? Are there no substitutes to call? A nurse? A secretary? No one who could have stayed with the kids for a few hours?

Here's photo of the actual guy who murdered Miss Quinn. He's got very Garbo-esque eyebrows. Tom Berenger was a lot hotter, if you ask me.

Guess the colored, racial preoccupation lunatic isn't going anytime soon. Avoided this site for over a week. Visit and there it is. Just go away. Ruining this site. Systemic troll, we have.

I know there’s music licensing issues but why doesn’t Criterion release a restored version of this. If not a great film, it certainly is a fascinating artefact of the time.

Or was this the Go Ask Alice for the sexually liberated crowd?

My conservative Catholic mother had a hardcover edition that she checked out of the library - I assume some casual friends of hers at work or the beauty parlour must’ve recommended it. It had that awful cover of the victim’s bloodied arms sticking out above the sheets. Is the book really sexually explicit? I can’t believe my mother would’ve read much of that.

I always wondered how Keaton got the courage to do this film. She seems so neurotic and in her biography she second guesses and doubts a lot of her film choices. This was a really bold move for an actress mostly known for comedy at the time. Her book barely mentions the film. I think she needs to take more credit for her daring. I saw her on Letterman once and he read a list of her films and when he said Goodbar, she said something like wow, now that was a film. I don't know how I got the courage to do it.

R10 Oh, lighten up missy. Perhaps this gif will cheer you up a bit?

Julia Stiles made up for it in all her other films.

R13 Damn! That is going straight into secret porn folder on my laptop.

Diane Keaton was outstanding; she gave a masterful performance. The movie was excellent; it was very underrated and unappreciated. Tuesday Weld was great, too.

[quote] Is the book really sexually explicit? I can’t believe my mother would’ve read much of that.

I definitely remember a scene of her gagging on Tony's come, (when I read it 40 years ago, age 14).

So, yes I'd say it was explicit.

[quote]I always wondered how Keaton got the courage to do this film.

I read or heard an interview with her recently. She said she'd never picked anyone up in a bar, but felt she could play the role.

Unfortunately, she seems to have no idea how powerful the film was and still is.

But then again, all she does is giggle about her roles, in general, and gets uncomfortable when people talk to her seriously about her career.

Oh and she's said how cute she thought Richard Gere was and how much she enjoyed working with him.

He also seems a little embarrassed by and is dismissive of the film

I lent the book to my 78-year-old friend and neighbor here in London. She thought the book was terrific. So I ran her the movie and she told me to turn it off after 10 minutes.

[quote]and gets uncomfortable when people talk to her seriously about her career

I've noticed she is practically the only star of her stature who has never done Inside the Actor's Studio.

I wish she would be more reflective about her work. She only recently did an interview on The Godfather films and said she always felt so out of place in them but she finally can see how could a job Coppola did with them.

Richard Gere, in his jock strap, was so fucking hot! He was one of my first crushes. God, he was beautiful! I was 14 when I first saw the movie.

Major movie for a mass audience—they didn’t want to get too gross.

Well, now OP has sent me down a rabbit hole. I was 6 when the movie came out, so it’s a little gap in my pop cultural knowledge I have to fill in. Got the gist, though. I just downloaded the novel from the NYPL.

Thanks!

She is much more troubled in the book. That was the author's problem with the movie. It put a little bit of a feminist spin on it and she was sort of portrayed as almost liberated at times.

Judith Rossner said her character was deeply troubled and a sexual compulsive who picks up man as a way of distracting herself from her despair.

It has been a while since I read the book but I do remember a really striking chapter where she is basically wandering around 1970s NY and a policeman finds her on sitting on a bench and tells her she needs to go home. It was such a vivid depiction of late night mania.

[quote]Well, now OP has sent me down a rabbit hole. I was 6 when the movie came out, so it’s a little gap in my pop cultural knowledge I have to fill in.

There are so many newbies on DL recently. Wonder why.

How can you be a DLer and not have heard of Goodbar?

The writer didn't like the film - but gradually over time, she met so many people who liked it and valued it, she thought again.

Keaton really won the Oscar for this. I doubt Annie Hall alone would have carried her to a win had she not had the shockingly different performance in Goodbar come out at the end of the year.

It wasn't fashionable yet.

i've never had the courage to watch this movie. don't know why. maybe i'm afraid it's too close to home.

The full movie was on YT for a long time, but it's gone now, sadly

[quote]i'm a man, btw

yet, not man enough to watch this, it seems. MAN up, gurlfriend!

I remember in the Andy Warhol diaries, he said was too much of a coward to watch the end, when it was on TV.

I think having her do a black guy would have been fine but not the brother. He was way too young. That would have made her a perv.

I think R5 is very smart. Teaming her with a black pickup would distract from her interaction with Levar Burton's family, especially for people from that time (I'm from that time, so I know).

R24, once you read the book, give yourself a little time, then watch the movie.

I remember reading a review (by a female reviewer, I believe) that talked about how inappropriate Richard Brooks was to direct this because he had a priggish attitude toward her sexuality.

The black/color obsessed troll strikes again.

A better question might be, how come she didn't have a lesbian - woman to woman - encounter?

R36 Here you go.........

What color is a Mr.Goodbar? Brown. What's the title of the film? Obviously,she hadn't found him yet.

Diane is having nun of Mr. Goodbar anymore.

[quote] What color is a Mr.Goodbar? Brown. What's the title of the film? Obviously,she hadn't found him yet.

Maybe if she settled for a Snickers, she might still be alive.

R39 One more try.