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What's it like living in Manhattan?

DL queens give us your expertise on this wonderful borough

by Anonymousreply 31304/16/2019

If you're rich - wonderful.

If you're poor - hell.

by Anonymousreply 101/13/2018

And poor can mean earning a 6-figure salary.

by Anonymousreply 201/13/2018

I LOVE it!

I've been here since I graduated HS in '81, and learned everything the hard way in the most exciting town on earth! I rarely make over 50-60G and do everything I want to do! Great people, fantastic history and I have always found reasonably priced apartments. Currently in an 80/20 affordable one-bedroom rental in an elevator/doorman building for $750!

Dreams do come true...mine anyway!

by Anonymousreply 301/13/2018

R3 - You're having fun.

What's an "80/20," Por Favor?

by Anonymousreply 401/13/2018

R3 = Helen Lawson

by Anonymousreply 501/13/2018

r4 it is a local federal/state sponsored rental program that grants building developers a real estate abatement if they rent apartments to people who aren't wealthy. There are lots of income levels, but the rents are matched to those incomes, and based not to exceed 30% of your income..

by Anonymousreply 601/13/2018

If you live south of Harlem it's like heaven, Harlem north is a shithole.

by Anonymousreply 701/14/2018

Looking forward to hearing a more CURRENT take on living in the city.

The usual responses about NYC 40 years ago are not helpful in this context.

by Anonymousreply 801/14/2018

It's great for the rich and the poor… middle income, not so much...

by Anonymousreply 901/14/2018

R7 respectfully disagree. I live on 129 in a 2 bedroom purchased in 06. Never regretted moving to Harlem. More services than ever before - good rise in our condo value. Easy access to subways, great commute to LGA & the GW and Triborough/RFK bridge. It’s getting harder to find horrible parts of Manhattan. If you want Thai food you’re out of luck, that’s 3 subway stops away. If you want great neighbors and a bigger apartment with better light Harlem is a contender.

by Anonymousreply 1001/14/2018

Fantastic cultural offerings, restaurants, etc. etc. Never get tired of the museums. Energy. Lots of smart, ambitious people. Christmastime is really lovely. Easy to get direct flights almost anywhere you want to go. Expensive. Not a lot of space. The worst thing about it is the noise, but it was worse before they got rid of the car alarms. You need to be able to escape it from time to time to hear the birds sing or you lose your mind.

by Anonymousreply 1101/14/2018

I still love it. If you have a career where you don't work 9 to 5, I think it is more enjoyable. I'm able to see a friend downtown, run an errand in midtown and have dinner in Chinatown easily in a day. When I live din the burbs all the driving made this type of day impossible.

by Anonymousreply 1201/14/2018

OP, may I ask where are you?

by Anonymousreply 1301/14/2018

Don’t come to Manhattan unless you already have a job. I was happy as a single but everything changed once I got married. We live in Tampa now, I enjoyed living in NYC 19 years. There were struggles, and I agree there are wonderful let’s of the city if you can afford or are being subsidized or some other hustle to be able to afford to live there.

There’s a saying that I heard when I first came to the city- “Everyone should live in NYC at least once in their lives, but move before they become bitter about it”.

This is a serious affliction to have because usually the victim is completely blind and unprepared until it’s too late to do anything about it, getting laid off or your rent doubled. My husband and I prepared an entire year for the move, though I’m wistful once I n awhile and would’ve stayed if I was still single,

I don’t miss it.

by Anonymousreply 1401/14/2018

Anywhere I want to go or need to go I can walk. If I'm in a real hurry or feeling lazy, then I'll take public transportation, but that's not often.

by Anonymousreply 1501/14/2018

agree, easy living car free, lots of incentive to walk everywhere

by Anonymousreply 1601/14/2018

Where do NYC people go on winter vacation? My friend told me it’s dead in the winter because everyone is gone.

by Anonymousreply 1703/08/2019

Subsidized Tony-winner Jan Maxwell coulda told you all about 80/20 housing and for years gaming the system meant for starving artists.

by Anonymousreply 1903/08/2019

R17. Boca raton

by Anonymousreply 2003/08/2019

R19, don't forget us.

by Anonymousreply 2103/08/2019

It's extremely crowded in Manhattan these days. Ten years ago was much less congested. Honestly there's no need to live here if you are over 40.

by Anonymousreply 2203/08/2019

If you are Asian, Jewish or homeless you'll LOVE it and make plenty of friends!

by Anonymousreply 2303/08/2019

They all go to Boca Raton? Any other places?

by Anonymousreply 2403/08/2019

NY is another city where people who never lived somewhere else claim, "it is the best city in the world." How do they know? They never been anywhere else.

People who have lived elsewhere are really just their for a job, and the larger job market there when their company starts acting up. You have to work all the time. People are burned out and mad. The cost of living is EXPENSIVE. There are more jobs than housing.

by Anonymousreply 2503/08/2019

How is the area of Riverside Drive? There seems to be good deals lately on apartments.

by Anonymousreply 2603/08/2019

If I was to move there from Dallas (I’m 48 gay male, and just came into a sizeable inheritance from dad passing) which section would you recommend? It’s so overwhelming - Chelsea, east village, meat packing? I guess I need to make a scouting visit. I need to keep rent under $5000/month. I have always wanted to try NYC for a couple years, but I know I probably wont retire there) I’m an X-ray tech so will work 20-30 hours a week to supplement my expenses. I’ve never been but heard all the guys look like models. I’m white and want to “sample” the Puerto Rican dishes. Help me !!

by Anonymousreply 2703/08/2019

I've lived in Manhattan for about five years now and I consider myself and tried and true New Yorker. We New Yorkers are a tough and hearty lot, and in that we way are unique. We persevere and role with the punches in the face of adversity. We muddle through and never look back. If something bad happens, we pick ourselves, dust ourselves off, and move on. No time for tears.

by Anonymousreply 2803/08/2019

Also, we speak fluent cliche.

by Anonymousreply 2903/08/2019

R29 - LOL

by Anonymousreply 3003/08/2019

It's not for everyone. You either love it or hate it. Once a month I spend a day or sometimes a weekend in the country, and also fly to a tropical place, either FL or the Caribbean islands once a year, or every other year, depending upon finances.

by Anonymousreply 3103/08/2019

Role with the punches?

by Anonymousreply 3203/08/2019

I'm a native too, I'm considering buying a co-op but hesitating. A lot of friends have moved, but family is still here. People who moved all say they miss things about NY, but life is easier elsewhere. So I'm a little torn yo make the commitment.

by Anonymousreply 3303/08/2019

Where do you travel in the winter?

by Anonymousreply 3403/08/2019

R34, Most people are still here in the winter, save for a vacation or two. People generally go away during the summer and holidays. I actually love the city when everyone heads out on the weekends.

by Anonymousreply 3503/08/2019

It's a helluva town!

The Bronx is up, but the Battery's down

The people ride in a hole in the ground!

by Anonymousreply 3603/08/2019

OP is a Manhattan resident looking for all of the brainwashed New Yorkers to proclaim it the new Shangri-la.

by Anonymousreply 3703/08/2019

Expensive but grand. Next question?

by Anonymousreply 3803/08/2019

People who say they love NY for the arts, never do anything related to the arts.

by Anonymousreply 3903/09/2019

R33, you seem like good egg, though most Manhattanites are cut from the same cloth. The big Apple is no bed of roses, but I find they’re balls to the wall about going back to the drawing board when it’s uphill on foot. I’m caught red-handed with my dyed-in-the-wool love for Gotham. Eat, drink and be merry, New York, because if you’ve made it there, there’s no place like home.

by Anonymousreply 4003/09/2019

There used to be parts of Manhattan that were slow and relaxed. Not any more. There used to be parts of Manhattan that were scary and crime ridden. Not any more. If you are rich, and have a newly built apartment, it's great. If you live in a rehabbed tenement, it's astonishingly tiny.

by Anonymousreply 4103/09/2019

[quote]They never been anywhere else.

Oh, dear!

[quote]People who have lived elsewhere are really just their for a job,

Oh, DEAR!

by Anonymousreply 4203/09/2019

If you can make it here, you'll make it anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 4303/09/2019

Oh, my pussy just aches. I touched it too much thinking about Manhattan and now it is dripping and it ACHES.

by Anonymousreply 4403/09/2019

Do you ever wonder if it might be better to live somewhere else and spend a weekend in Manhattan once a month? That would cost me roughly $1700 a month.

by Anonymousreply 4503/09/2019

It's a good idea because of the property values. If you have to sell, you can. The other issue in heath care services in New York City. It will only get better. Op, it sounds you are a true born New Yorker. If you have family and support network there, then you are probably staying anyways.

by Anonymousreply 4603/09/2019

As much as it’s been hypergentrified, if you have the money, have a decent cheap apartment or don’t mind living in an uglier neighborhood farther from downtown (Wash Heights/Inwood, Harlem), it’s hard to beat the vibe and the people. Nowhere else in America have I found the same openness and ability to interact with interesting and interested people. I also love he constant energy and excitement. But I think it’s important to get away from regularly and get breathing space/nature.

I could also see just coming every weekend and spending $600 x 4 =$2,400 on hotels. It can be a way to experience NYC without a long term commitment. But if you can afford an apartment in the West Village, it really is an ideal life - depending on the person. I totally understand people who want a house and quiet - or to be surrounded by nature. But I’ve found NYC keeps me engaged and excited about life even as I get older.

by Anonymousreply 4703/09/2019

Oh brother ^

by Anonymousreply 4803/09/2019

I'm moving to a new apartment in two weeks. Been living in a studio for the past year in Hell's Kitchen, and though it's been nice, I wanted more room, so I found a nice one-bedroom in Hamilton Heights. It's actually a little bit cheaper than the studio, so that makes it even better.

Manhattan, though expensive, is a great place to live if you can find a nice apartment for not too much money in a decent neighborhood. Once you get settled in, and if you don't have uber-expensive taste where it comes to cuisine, clothes, etc., you should do okay.

by Anonymousreply 4903/09/2019

R49 how did you like HK? It’s one area of the city I can afford but I can’t handle the crowds or noise around the theater district. Are there any little enclaves that are quieter? I live in Bklyn now (where I grew up)

by Anonymousreply 5003/09/2019

Have lived in the same Hells Kitchen apartment since 1997. Can’t imagine living anywhere else.

by Anonymousreply 5103/09/2019

Is there a lot of DL thug dick to be found in Harlem? I went to the NYSC in Harlem a few times looking for BBC, but was very disappointed. Where can I find it at?

by Anonymousreply 5203/09/2019

R50, it was fine but, as you can imagine, very crowded and noisy at night, particularly for me since my windows overlook the street and all the partiers (especially on Saturday night) always seem to be gathered beneath my window sill. (On NYE I heard them out there until well past 3 in the morning.) It was actually much more quiet when I lived on 47th Street, which is nowhere near as busy. Though I wanted a larger apartment, I did consider staying in Hell's Kitchen just because it's so easy to get everywhere so quickly from here (I rarely had to ride the trains anymore), but now that I'm older (53), I'm much more interested in quiet now than I used to be, plus I won't miss knifing my way through all of the visitors in Times Square just to get home.

By the way, if you do live in HK and want to get as far away from all of the crowds, try to find an apartment as far west of 9th Avenue as you can get. The farther you go, the less people you'll have to deal with.

by Anonymousreply 5303/09/2019

R51, is your apartment rent-stabilized?

by Anonymousreply 5403/09/2019

I wish the escorts in Manhattan were rent-stablized. $350/hour? Gurl please!

by Anonymousreply 5503/09/2019

The guy I've been seeing lives in the city (in a Trump building no less. He got a good deal). I live in Brooklyn. It's nice to an extent (the view is spectacular), but you have to be really, really wealthy to avoid the noise by being far up in a building.

I just prefer waking up to birds.

by Anonymousreply 5603/09/2019

To all those looking for cruising street dick, those days are gone. The black and Puerto Rican men must have either come out and settled down - or moved down south,

by Anonymousreply 5703/09/2019

[quote]The worst thing about it is the noise,

I noticed that in the New York Times video interview with Lee fucking Radziwell. Sitting in her apartment with all the money in the world, and yet with a constant background of traffic noise. That would drive me totally nuts, and makes me understand why New Yorkers are so wired up. I need pindrop silence (apart from birds) to stay sane.

by Anonymousreply 5803/09/2019

Wow thought DL looked down on government rental subsidies as welfare.Come to find out you bitches are the main recipients. ....so funny. An sad....DL is not as rich as it once claimed to be.

by Anonymousreply 5903/09/2019

R59 are you responding to something specific or...

by Anonymousreply 6003/09/2019

I think the rich DLers only show up in the retirement threads. In reality, I think most DLers are getting by somehow but nowhere near the proportion of millionaires who crowd into the retirement threads to brag about their wealth - now that they are old and wasted their prime chasing money so they can retire to their money obsessed lonely lives.

by Anonymousreply 6103/09/2019

Noisy.

by Anonymousreply 6203/09/2019

Yes R54 stabilized. And you pretty much get used to the traffic noise. Now I find it difficult to fall asleep in a quiet vacation spot

by Anonymousreply 6303/10/2019

I’ve always said if I had more money than I knew what to do with, I would have to have an apartment in Manhattan. Wouldn’t live there full time, but definitely would want to part time.

I love going into “the City.”

by Anonymousreply 6403/10/2019

It's a wondrous place to reside. The energy is unbeatable, and knowing you're living in the center of the universe that inspires envy in others is an amazing feeling, I have to say. You know that all eyes are on you. Getting up and going out every day realizing you're in the spotlight is a heady responsibility but it is also a thrill beyond compare.

by Anonymousreply 6503/10/2019

I hate tourists in the winter. I hate tourists in the fall.

by Anonymousreply 6603/10/2019

The possibilities are endless for entertainment. My matinee of the new Nathan Lane play was canceled yesterday, and all I had to do was go online to find a comp ticket to an alternative. Dollar Pizza right down the street then a 20-minute train ride to the West Village and hanging out with friends for 6 hours at a piano bar made it a full day.

by Anonymousreply 6703/10/2019

R52 I find plenty of black cock in the Ramble still. It's hit and miss with cold weather, and mostly small dicked Mexicans. But I've had my share of good experiences with masculine black men who just love getting their cock sucked and know that thrusting it down your throat isn't always easy. I had one guy with 12" who massaged my head and shoulders and moaned in delight. He let me know he was going to cum and I jerked him off, causing him to shoot a foot. When I stood up, he began kissing me in gratitude. He told me that he wished he wasn't so big because it was impossible to fuck.

by Anonymousreply 6803/10/2019

R68, the Rambles is still a thing?

I’ve gotta get into the city more.

by Anonymousreply 6903/10/2019

R69 Yes, but like I said, hit or miss. I go once a month, weather depending (tonight is a definite possibility), and have met all types there. I wish more Puerto Rican and Dominican men went there, and I've been surprised by the number of masculine men who are either bottoms or into sucking. I met a Dominican black guy one time with a huge uncut dick who wanted to suck me off, and I had to manipulate the situation to convince him to let me chow down on his pinga. He enjoyed it and I could smell him on my hands all night when I went home. Now when I see him, we have makeout sessions. It's uncomplicated and drama free, although a few times, I've been tempted to invite them over for the night when I sense that they are decent.

by Anonymousreply 7003/10/2019

I’m the person who bump this oldish thread because I wanted to know where NYCers go on winter vacation?

We all know they go to the Hamptons in the summer, but where is the winter ‘go to’ spot for manhattan types?

by Anonymousreply 7103/10/2019

I've been tempted to go to the Rambles, but don't the cops conduct sting operations there? The last thing I need is to be arrested and my name and photo on some website or published in the paper.

by Anonymousreply 7203/10/2019

I would say that the only section of Manhattan that is NOT gentrified is EAST HARLEM.

by Anonymousreply 7303/10/2019

If I show up at age 65 with no money and no home will the city find shelter for me?

by Anonymousreply 7403/10/2019

The thing with Manhattan now is that real estate is absurdly expensive and creates massive inequality even within the same building, which in some cases can create a good deal of diversity.

I live in a doorman building on the UWS. It's an ugly white brick postwar building, but the apartments are very big for postwar. I bought my apartment about 10 years ago (with help from my parents). And while we thought we were paying way too much, the apartment has almost doubled in value and people moving in are paying twice what I did.

At the same time, I'd say about a third of the people in the building are senior citizens, most of whom bought when the building went co-op in the 80s and bought they all bought their apartments for next to nothing--I think even the three bedrooms were under $200K back then.

So we have a decent amount of diversity in terms of age and income and the old people are hilarious, many of them are real old New York characters.

There's an energy in the city and all that, but it's changed dramatically in the past 20 years. Lots of chain stores, entire new neighborhoods that could be anywhere (Houston, Chicago, Boston) and most of the 20somethings are in Brooklyn.

That's a positive at one level--much less hipster attitude at restaurants and all, but there's also nothing that seems all that unique anymore.

Mostly it's convenient. My gym is across the street, I can walk to work in 20 minutes or take the subway and be there in 10. Everything can be delivered and there are a lot of great restaurants, cultural attractions (museums, galleries, theaters) and parks nearby

by Anonymousreply 7503/10/2019

R74, sure, Pops. Take a chance.

by Anonymousreply 7603/10/2019

Can anyone from Manhattan see an end to all the blight of scaffolding? This article from 2016 explains (kind of) why there is so much of it. But I think there has been much more of it still put up in the past 2 years. Also in regards to the noise coming from Lee Radziwell's building; I've stayed in hotels which had amazing soundproofing (triple glazed windows, that almost swoosh like a vacuum when you close them, and layer upon layer of noise-proof cladding everywhere) that you could literally hear a pin drop inside regardless of a jackhammer being used 10 feet outside the in the street. I suppose in very loud cities it does make sense to subsidize quality building materials for upgrades, helps keep the people happy.

by Anonymousreply 7703/12/2019

I've been living in Manhattan for 7 years now. I love it. The energy of the city is so incredible. Everything is "alive". However, if you are on a tight budget... It might not be for you. Even groceries are expensive.....maybe that's why everyone eats out? If you have money....go for it! Otherwise...consider One of the cheaper burriugh to live in. Even Jersey City is a great option....it feels like you live in NYC when you look out your window....you just have to deal with the short commute.

by Anonymousreply 7803/12/2019

[quote]The energy of the city is so incredible. Everything is "alive".

Go to Oklahoma or some flyover city and say that and they will look at you as if you have three heads. But it’s true. You (and I) get it! It really is like another character.

by Anonymousreply 7903/12/2019

[quote] Honestly there's no need to live here if you are over 40.

Honestly, you're crazy.

I'm 61 and, as I crawl towards retirement, I can't wait to be able to do all the things I haven't been able to do because I work full time, such as museums, films, galleries, theater, open rehearsals, interesting neighborhoods to explore, parks, etc. As a retired person you can join TDF and see shows for a fraction of what the rest of us pay. Seat-filling services are $99 a year and let you see all sorts of interesting plays for $5 a ticket.

I live in a modest apartment with a doorman, elevator, and no stairs, and see no reason why I can't 'age in place'. If the weather is unpleasant, you can have anything you need delivered. Public transport is nearby (discount MetroCard!), and taxis are plentiful. Even if I tuck the paper under my arm, walk to Central Park, just read the paper, drink coffee, and watch the world go by, I'll be happy.

by Anonymousreply 8003/12/2019

Go for the glory holes!

by Anonymousreply 8103/12/2019

Why is R3 still renting, after all these years?

by Anonymousreply 8203/12/2019

I no longer do but did for many years. I would leave my apartment building, turn right, and then, walking a few blocks straight west, would come upon this. I think that says it all.

by Anonymousreply 8303/12/2019

I'd rather just visit.

by Anonymousreply 8403/12/2019

See r84 I agree with you, too. I’m the one upthread who said if I was rich I would have one place in the city. I don’t think I could live there all the time, but I’d love to be a part-time resident.

by Anonymousreply 8503/12/2019

What about the West 22nd Street ?

by Anonymousreply 8603/12/2019

W22nd St. is overrun with whores and the aroma of PrEP.

by Anonymousreply 8703/12/2019

I thought Chelsea was all straight people pushing double strollers now?

by Anonymousreply 8803/12/2019

R80 is correct.

The fact that you can get anywhere without driving and the abundance of top level health care facilities actually make Manhattan an excellent location for seniors.

by Anonymousreply 8903/12/2019

Manhatten has too many people, I couldn't stand living in a 5th floor walk up shoe box. I live in the midwest, with lots of space and breathing room. I pay less in mortgage than you loosers pay for your walkups. And we have plenty of cool cultural things to do here too and great restaurants. Breakig news: Manhatten is not the center of the universe.

by Anonymousreply 9003/12/2019

It's EXACTLY how it was depicted on Sex And The City. Absolutely NOTHING has changed. You'd love it!

by Anonymousreply 9103/12/2019

R78 Jersey City is not so cheap rents are close to what you would pay in Manhattan, condo prices are high but still 3/4 of what you would pay in Manhattan for similar spaces. People who were priced out of Manhattan and Brooklyn have moved to JC making it the hottest RE market in NJ. I was fortunate that I bought years ago the value of my condo has tripled. It's a 15 minute trip into the City.

by Anonymousreply 9203/12/2019

You also have to be very careful about Jersey City. Some of it is as bad as Bed Stuy used to be.

by Anonymousreply 9303/12/2019

It's super clean.

by Anonymousreply 9403/12/2019

No one there speaks English anymore!

by Anonymousreply 9503/12/2019

[Quote] Manhatten has too many people

Oh dear

by Anonymousreply 9603/12/2019

The advantage to Manhattan over other boroughs, JC and Hoboken is that there is no real commuting. You can often walk to work or to wherever you are heading that evening. That's a huge convenience--you can go home after work, change and then go out again.

by Anonymousreply 9703/12/2019

Neighboring Jersey cities are worse than most other places in the US, including the entire midwest and deep south.

by Anonymousreply 9803/12/2019

[quote]I pay less in mortgage than you loosers pay for your walkups.

Oh, dear!

And we have plenty of cool cultural things to do here too and great restaurants. Breakig news: Manhatten is not the center of the universe.

I guess among those “cool cultural things to do,” an education is not one of them.

by Anonymousreply 9903/12/2019

I couldn't live anywhere else, even though lately I've been hating it. The noise, the sorry state of the subway, the fact that there's no edgy subculture anymore. Blah, blah...

After about your 10th year here, it stops being this fantasia of culture and excitement, and simply becomes the place you happen to live. I know I take A LOT for granted. But it doesn't feel as awesome and singular as it once did, which is clearly a consequence of age. We still go out and engage with everything: museums, theater, restaurants. But more and more we stay in, cook, chill...and go upstate or out east on the weekends.

And yah - it's crazy expensive. My partner and I have a combined income of 350K and we won't even think of buying. We have a rent stabilized apartment and many of the people I know who bought are saying they will have to sell when they retire because their monthly fees are skyrocketing.

So yeah, love it but hate it - in equal measure.

by Anonymousreply 10003/12/2019

Can thug trade still be found along 8th Avenue in the 30s and 40s? It used to be thug dick paradise.

by Anonymousreply 10103/12/2019

Nah - all the thug dick disappeared. Not sure where it went. Maybe the same place as all the homeless. All the poor have been pushed out. Seems like the whole hustler scene is dead.

by Anonymousreply 10203/12/2019

Manhattan is great if you have a rent controlled apartment from 1982.

If you don't, it sucks

by Anonymousreply 10303/12/2019

New York is a state of mind.

by Anonymousreply 10403/12/2019

It’s because of what R100 said that I said I’d like to be a part-time resident. I guess it could get old.

by Anonymousreply 10503/12/2019

R100 already sounds over it even though he claims he couldn't live anywhere else.

by Anonymousreply 10603/12/2019

The thing about apartments in Manhattan is, unless you have a whole lot of money to spend, you have to be willing to give up certain things that make you happy if you want to live in the city. I just rented an apartment in which I won't be able to have an air conditioner in my bedroom because there's only one window in there that connects to the fire escape (plus there's no electrical outlet along that wall anyway), so come summer, unless I get really creative, I will probably roast in there and have to spend most of my time sleeping on the living room sofa (where the air conditioner will be) instead of in my bed, which is where I'd prefer to be. (The bedroom is also pretty small, a box really, and I expect my full-sized bed will take up most of it.)

So why did I take the apartment? Well, first off, it's in a beautiful prewar building just two blocks from the train station, which will make access to other parts of the city very easy; it's on the top floor, so I will no longer have to put up with people stomping on my head every night (plus it's an elevator building, so no climbing stairs to get up there). I also have brand-new appliances, lots of sunlight, and a decent rent that won't break the bank, so it's all good. Not saying I'll stay there forever but will try to make a nice run of it.

by Anonymousreply 10703/12/2019

IS ANYONE GOING TO ANSWER ME?????

by Anonymousreply 10803/12/2019

[quote] New York is a state of mind.

I'm presuming you meant this tongue in cheek, but there is something to that.

I could sell my apartment, take the profits plus my 401(k) and retire in a place like Texas or Florida and never have to work again, but I would hate every second of that. I'm not talking just about the lack of amenities NY has to offer, I'm talking about the attitudes of the people who live there.

I'm fully aware that I live in my comfortable Upper West Side liberal bubble, but I like being able to walk the dog wearing my 'Gay Atheist' t-shirt and not have to worry about being accosted. I like being able to ride the elevator with my neighbors and talk about the latest Trump idiocy without having to think that they may have voted for him. I like having Jerrold Nadler as my congressman and knowing his views align with mine..

And I LOVE not having someone ask me 'What church do you belong to?'

by Anonymousreply 10903/12/2019

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 11003/12/2019

[quote] I’m the person who bump this oldish thread because I wanted to know where NYCers go on winter vacation?

We don't

At least not those of us who work for a living, and judging from the packed subways, most of us do work for a living.

I have a retired friend who spends time in Ft. Lauderdale, but he comes back after a couple of weeks complaining that there's nothing to do

by Anonymousreply 11103/12/2019

But everybody on datalounge is a millionaire.

by Anonymousreply 11203/12/2019

Really R111?

Gay people go to Florida--Miami (though less so these days) or Key West. Puerto Rico is coming back too, post-Maria. The problem with Florida is that you can hit a cold-ish spell in December-February. Or it can rain every day.

Heteros go to the various Caribbean islands-- there are vacations at various price points from all-inclusives in Jamaica to villas in St. Barths. Turks and Caicos is big right now and there are a number of direct flights from NYC. Bahamas and PR are convenient--flights are only 3 or 4 hours.

by Anonymousreply 11303/12/2019

^^The problem with the islands for gays is that the formerly British islands--Jamaica, Barbados, Bahamas--have reputations for being homophobic. Spanish, French or Dutch islands much less so.

Most people are aware of whether they are usually clocked as gay though and whether that's going to be a problem.

by Anonymousreply 11403/12/2019

Now we’re getting somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 11503/12/2019

We would like to see the nation run as a triumvirate by AOC, Omar, and Tlaib. At least for a time. It's the only way to get things back under control.

by Anonymousreply 11603/12/2019

[Quote] I could sell my apartment, take the profits plus my 401(k) and retire in a place like Texas or Florida and never have to work again, but I would hate every second of that. I'm not talking just about the lack of amenities NY has to offer, I'm talking about the attitudes of the people who live there.

Oh brother! Have you ever BEEN anywhere outside the city?

by Anonymousreply 11703/12/2019

R107 why don’t you get one of those portable AC units? You’re already doing better than a lot of people by even having a bedroom! I can only afford studios unless I go way uptown

by Anonymousreply 11803/12/2019

One has to know Yiddish well enough to throw in an appropriate Yiddish word in one’s conversation. In New York it’s better than throwing in a Shakespeare reference—especially if it’s not one of the most common ones, like schlep, kvetch, or oy vey.

by Anonymousreply 11903/12/2019

That's a great idea, R118. The only problem (as I stated in my post above) is that there's no electrical outlet on the wall beneath the window and I think a portable AC needs to be located by the window due to the exhaust tube. What I may do, however, is ask the super if he has any suggestions or, even better, if I could pay him to install an outlet there for me. If so, it would certainly be a big help and I would definitely get myself a portable for this summer.

And by the way, I'm just like you -- I can only afford studios if I live south of 96th Street on the west (which is what I've been living in in Hell's Kitchen) but decided I wanted more room, so took this place in the West 130s along Broadway, which is actually very nice (I lived in this neighborhood many years ago). After a while you just get tired of being all cramped up in a studio and want a little more room to move around (plus I just missed having a real bedroom, even if this one is so small). When all is said and done, I like to think I'll look upon it as being more cozy than tiny.

by Anonymousreply 12003/12/2019

I found having a separate bedroom - no matter how small - makes a big difference psychologically. I only have 500 square feet but separate bedroom and it feels fine. Having 2 rooms makes it very liveable and home-like,

by Anonymousreply 12103/12/2019

I totally agree, R121.

by Anonymousreply 12203/12/2019

R98: Not Paulus Hook, Grove Street or Newport (the only places worth living in JC and the most expensive).

by Anonymousreply 12303/12/2019

Is riverdale in Manhattan? Is it nice?

by Anonymousreply 12403/12/2019

r124: The Bronx

by Anonymousreply 12503/12/2019

[QUOTE]You have to work all the time. People are burned out and mad.

It's the same in every city in the U.S.

by Anonymousreply 12603/12/2019

R109 sounds very provincial.

by Anonymousreply 12703/13/2019

Manhattan...it's fast.

by Anonymousreply 12803/13/2019

Manhattan is a fast, loose slut.

by Anonymousreply 12903/13/2019

[quote] Oh brother! Have you ever BEEN anywhere outside the city?

Of course I have. For 15 years I had a job that took me around the entire country. I have been to all the states except Alaska, the Dakotas, Idaho, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

The last time I was in Texas I agreed to accompany some friends to church because they assured me the new preacher was 'so open-minded and accepting.' Within the first five minutes of his weekly announcements, he was announcing a workshop for those 'who are struggling to overcome same-sex attraction'. To me, that's neither open-minded nor welcoming. Walking through the parking lot I lost track of the Trump/Pence bumper stickers (there were a few 'Hillary for Prison' ones thrown in for good measure). And this was Houston, not Waco.

R127 If wanting to live around like-minded liberals who think there is nothing to struggle with when it comes to being gay, and that Donald Trump is destroying our country makes me provincial, then I guess I'm provincial.

by Anonymousreply 13003/13/2019

Ella will tell you all about it.

by Anonymousreply 13103/13/2019

[quote][R124]: The Bronx

While that's true, let's remember that the Bronx is a big place and Riverdale is all the way in the North of the Bronx. It's very, VERY different from the South Bronx. Much of Riverdale is Irish in the most northerly part, and then very Jewish in the southerly part, of that neighborhood. Both parts are pretty safe and fairly nice. In fact some of the toniest neighborhoods in the city are in Riverdale, like Fieldston, where the prestigious Fieldston School is located, and many mansions are located (Carly Simon grew up there in a giant mansion in Fieldston).

by Anonymousreply 13203/13/2019

... and the exceptionally lovely Wave Hill Public Gardens is in Riverdale as well.

by Anonymousreply 13303/13/2019

Just one more thing -- the one place in Riverdale I might be reluctant to live in is Kingsbridge, as that's adjacent to some of the iffier neighborhoods in the Bronx. Some people don't even consider Kingsbridge to be part of Riverdale.

by Anonymousreply 13403/13/2019

It has been stated that one can live a full life without ever leaving Greenwich Village. Having said that why would anyone every venture outside of NYC?

by Anonymousreply 13503/13/2019

To see how much better their life is than the flyover philistines, r135.

by Anonymousreply 13603/13/2019

Ah, I see now, R136.

by Anonymousreply 13703/13/2019

R135 that’s me. The only time I leave the Village is to go to a doctor in midtown. It’s a whole world here all within a few minutes walk. It’s the reason I would never leave - you get used to having everything you could want within walking distance and often 24/7. I get why people prefer to live elsewhere and have tried it, but I always miss NYC.

by Anonymousreply 13803/13/2019

Interestingly the Village used to be an actual, well, village to the north of New York City. It got gobbled up by expansion of the city northward, and was incorporated in. It's weird to think of the Village, which is very downtown in the modern world, as being a northern suburb of New York.

by Anonymousreply 13903/13/2019

Riverdale is lovely and, as noted, has three of the top private schools in NYC (Horace Mann, Fieldston, Riverdale Country Day) and it's one of the hidden bargains right now--you can buy a one bedroom in a doorman building with a terrace and quite possibly other amenities (outdoor pool, parking spot, tennis courts, in-building gym) for under $500K

It does feel very suburban though, there is a sizable Orthodox community and unless you are near the one subway stop (most are not--it's not centrally located) you either need to drive, take a bus or take MetroNorth to get to Manhattan.

But the Fieldston section in particular looks no different than upscale towns in Westchester and you'd never know you were in NYC, let alone the Bronx.

by Anonymousreply 14003/13/2019

To wit-- this 1BR in Riverdale is only $349K

by Anonymousreply 14103/13/2019

How did we go from living in Manhattan to a discussion of Riverdale - which is basically the suburbs? You’re closer to downtown Manhattan in Jersey City or Hoboken. Riverdale is basically Yonkers.

by Anonymousreply 14203/13/2019

Wow! $848. per month HOA. Ouch. It'd be hard for most to retire in their one bedroom with that kind of monthly expense.

by Anonymousreply 14303/13/2019

Wow! $848. per month HOA. Ouch. It'd be hard for most to retire in their one bedroom with that kind of monthly expense.

by Anonymousreply 14403/13/2019

One more Riverdale (because someone asked and because I am blown away by how cheap it is)

This is a 1BR in a doorman building with pool, river views, etc. Needs new kitchen and bathroom but it's only $179K

That's like Remote East Flyoverstan prices.

It's only a 20 minute non-rush hour drive from Hell's Kitchen. You "I am 50 years old and living with a roommate and no AC" gays should definitely investigate.

by Anonymousreply 14503/13/2019

That’s why I never bought - my HOA/property taxes would be more than my rent.

by Anonymousreply 14603/13/2019

R145 - search for property in Yonkers and you can find a rowhouse or 2-3BR for that. There are a lot of relatively affordable peripheral neighborhoods of NYC. You can have access to NYC without paying $1million median price in Manhattan. Most people do.

by Anonymousreply 14703/13/2019

Of course R147-- I grew up in Scarsdale.

But Yonkers can be scary AF and is another 15 minutes further out.

Riverdale is a very nice, very safe neighborhood and that $179K apartment is about an 8 to10 minute walk to the Metro North stop at Spuyten Duyvil and less than a mile from the subway.

by Anonymousreply 14803/13/2019

The only problem with Riverdale is there is NOTHING there. Just houses and apartment buildings. Maybe an Irish pub or two. That's it.

You would have to do everything in Manhattan. And if your single, forget about it. You will feel isolated and lonely.

by Anonymousreply 14903/13/2019

Everything I ever needed to know in life I learned on Avenue A.

by Anonymousreply 15003/13/2019

I lived in NYC from 1985 to 1995, I even bought my own apartment on the UES. But after 10 years I knew that to really have a great life in NYC I would need to be rich. So I packed up a U-Haul and moved to Chicago where my money goes much further, rented a HUGE 2500 square foot apartment. I sublet my place back in NYC and the money I make more than pays for rent here in Chicago, I have a much nicer life style, a car, a garage and some money to actually save for retirement.

I use to miss NYC and would go back frequently even renting a place for 1 month each summer, but as the years have gone by NY seems less exciting. In fact I haven't been back to NYC in 4 years and I no longer even miss it. Its less expensive to vacation in Europe and more interesting.

by Anonymousreply 15103/13/2019

Riverdale has no nightlife available. It's very quiet, relaxed, and suburban. It's great for seniors and young families or someone with a car

by Anonymousreply 15203/13/2019

It's a paradise for the non-CIS, gender indeterminates. Others not so much.

by Anonymousreply 15303/13/2019

You can take guitar lessons from Dan Smith. And get your skin treated by Dr. Zizmor.

by Anonymousreply 15403/13/2019

Funny, r141, I knew a couple who lived in that exact building. They lived in the back and pretty far up so they had a view of the Hudson River.

by Anonymousreply 15503/13/2019

Certain pockets of the city — the most expensive parts of midtown, the goldcoast of the UES, basically all of the West Village— are now basically just the domain of the global 1%. The snoozy basic bro/bitch vibe of Murray Hill has now spread upto Yorkville and down to the parts of the LES that aren’t dominated by public housing. Greenwich and the East Village are all but officially NYU campus now. The Upper West Side is just geriatric Jews and the squarest of their grandchildren. Chelsea is now straight couples who can’t afford Tribeca and old gays. Hell’s Kitchen is youngish gays with roommates and is still one of the least attractive parts of the city. The Financial District still hasn’t turned into a viable neighborhood - despite great subway access and a mind-numbing amount of office-conversion rentals and condos that don’t get any natural light. Harlem and Washington Heights still might as well be another borough. Chinatown seems to grow by 3 streets a year.

by Anonymousreply 15603/13/2019

Rents have skyrocketed in Harlem over the last few years, particularly in Morningside Heights* and Hamilton Heights**. The best deals now are found primarily in Central Harlem, which is not as bad as East Harlem but still not as aesthetically pleasing as what you see along Broadway and Riverside Drive.

(*There's an old joke about "Morningside Heights" just being a name white people came up with so they wouldn't have to tell their friends they live in Harlem.)

(**A broker told me about a year ago that the sudden popularity of Hamilton Heights is directly tied to the phenomena that is "Hamilton" the musical, which greatly renewed interest in the neighborhood. That doesn't, however, mean that LMM gets to share in any broker's fees.)

by Anonymousreply 15703/13/2019

R156 - good summary. The lightless rentals of Wall Street are a strange phenomenon in that they don’t seem to have encouraged any nightlife. Would think it’s a perfect place for a Murray Hill, post-college bar scene. But it’s still dead after years and hundreds if not thousands of new apartments.

by Anonymousreply 15803/13/2019

R39 We read TimeOut but don't have the money to go to anything.

by Anonymousreply 15903/13/2019

R158 Money-laundering. Manhattan has tons of condos all dark at night due to money-laundering.

by Anonymousreply 16003/13/2019

Hudson Yards will end up like those deserted cities in China unless low-income people are able to rent there. It is really freakishly windy there too.

by Anonymousreply 16103/13/2019

R161 those buildings all have some low income apartments but you have to win the lottery to get them. I can’t see the market rate ones ever being cheaper, the buildings cost so much to construct.

Harlem below 123rd has gotten both expensive and looks just like the UWS. But above 125th, on St Nicholas is still dollar stores and the run down Chuck E Cheese. Probably won’t be long before that changes too. But the projects nearby aren’t going anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 16203/13/2019

I’m wondering if Hudson Yards becomes the new Battery Park City. Pretty far from everything else it seems with only 1 subway to get you there. Master planned developments seem to never work out.

by Anonymousreply 16303/13/2019

Battery Park City has been very successful.

But it was planned as a continuation of classic NYC architecture and urban design.

by Anonymousreply 16403/13/2019

R 107 - how many sq feet is your apt total? Just get a window unit that’s big enough to cool off the whole place - you can use a small fan to direct cool air into the bedroom but that probably won’t evenp be necessary. Growing up we had a big window unit in the dining area that cooled off the whole floor of our house - AC’s are much more efficient now - so you should be able to get a unit that will work fine.

by Anonymousreply 16503/13/2019

Speak of the devil...

by Anonymousreply 16603/13/2019

[quote]And if your single, forget about it.

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 16703/14/2019

[quote]I can only afford studios unless I go way uptown

C’mon up, it’s beautiful here.

by Anonymousreply 16803/14/2019

We are glad R165 grew up with a big unit.

by Anonymousreply 16903/14/2019

There are some cheap studios on 105th St. off Columbus Ave. What is that area like?

by Anonymousreply 17003/14/2019

[quote]There are some cheap studios on 105th St. off Columbus Ave. What is that area like?

Gentrified and pricy the studios you mention must be tiny.

by Anonymousreply 17103/14/2019

"Most of us in New York City will never have the opportunity to live, work, shop and play within this provincial, hermetic, artificially constructed bubble of wealth that is now grafted on to the side of Manhattan. Hudson Yards is urban glamping. It provides you the skyline of NYC with none of the street. It is always a little sad to see what the people rich enough to have everything actually want. They do not want to participate in the world at all; they want to build their own simulacrum of it and float away forever, secure in the knowledge that none of the lesser people or things that populate the earth will ever be allowed to intrude. This is the promise of Hudson Yards – the same as the promise of the Titanic. So lie back and enjoy it, my friends. The good life always lasts forever"

That's interesting since LA tried it in the 70s with the Twin Arco buildings complex that included the Bonaventure Hotel (seen in the credits of It's a Living). The experiment happened, but nothing much came from it. The homeless camped at street level, but those who went inside the complex would have been there anyway because they were forced to, and no one flourished.

Actually, that was the first place where I saw all the workers were colonist immigrants who had no interest in assimilating, and the island stayed an island of declining population.

Another was Century City, which never became much of anything.

by Anonymousreply 17203/14/2019

Your description of Hudson Yards, frankly, describes all of Manhattan. A bubble where people go to escape the rest of the world.

by Anonymousreply 17303/14/2019

Native NY’r here, and I agree 100% with much of what has been said. Yes, rent and real estate prices have skyrocketed; yes, many neighborhood “mom n’ pop” type businesses have gone the way of the dodo for a variety of reasons; yes, the “rough around the edges” character of many neighborhoods has disappeared; etc., etc.. Yet, as much as I may bitch and moan about the subways, taxes, cost of things, the mayor, and all the rest, I still can’t imagine living anywhere else.

by Anonymousreply 17403/14/2019

R172 - where is that from? Good summary of Hudson Yards.

I do feel like my neighborhood still has somewhat of a good mix of people between the old timers, tiny studios that are affordable to 20-somethings and rent stabilization - despite the flood of super-wealthy. The real problem has been street level retail. Pizza places, Chinese restaurants, delis, diners, laundry have all disappeared which really affects the living experience. High end restaurants and nail salons just don’t serve a purpose for a neighborhood of middle class people.

But with all I miss and am frustrated about, I don’t know anywhere else in the US where I can get the same living experience. A lot of it is just the sheer density, street energy and interesting/interested people. I like Philly, Houston and LA in a lot of ways but each one is missing elements of NYC that I would miss.

by Anonymousreply 17503/14/2019

I passed by the Blue Store on 8th and Chelsea last night. There were two very hot black thugs standing outside. I assume they were trade. So there still is street cruising. I winked at them and walked by. If I hadn't been in a rush to meet friends for dinner, I would of entered the store with the hope that they'd follow me in there. I'm on PrEP btw.

by Anonymousreply 17603/14/2019

[QUOTE]I passed by the Blue Store on 8th and Chelsea last night. There were two very hot black thugs standing outside. I assume they were trade. So there still is street cruising.

Not everything is lost...There's still hope!

by Anonymousreply 17703/14/2019

For all those who whine that NYC is too expensive to live in San Jose, San Francisco, San Diego and Boston have a higher cost of housing.

by Anonymousreply 17803/14/2019

[quote]For all those who whine that NYC is too expensive to live in San Jose,

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 17903/14/2019

San Jose prices are to rape the H1-Bs of their ill-gotten gains.

by Anonymousreply 18003/14/2019

I don't think anyone is whining per se. It's a simple fact of life. Should we not acknowledge that it's expensive in NYC - simply because it may be expensive somewhere else?

How stupid.

by Anonymousreply 18103/14/2019

R175 The quote is from the Guardian article posted at R166

by Anonymousreply 18203/14/2019

Agreed R149--but for a married couple or someone older who was not interested in night life, those prices are amazing.

And R156--that's a spot on description. The only note I have is that those parts of GV that are not NYU-dorm-land (further west) are also the province of the global 1% (e.g. RM towers on the river)

by Anonymousreply 18303/14/2019

R3 PLEASE what was your strategy ? Soo envious !

by Anonymousreply 18403/14/2019

Washington Heights vs. Inwood:

by Anonymousreply 18503/14/2019

Although it's undeniable that Manhattan has lost most of what made it unique, it's still the most interesting urban space in the U.S.

by Anonymousreply 18603/14/2019

NYC named world's best city:

by Anonymousreply 18703/14/2019

Climate change might flood out the whole island, so maybe, no fear.

by Anonymousreply 18803/15/2019

[Quote] I like Philly, Houston and LA in a lot of ways but each one is missing elements of NYC that I would miss.

Philly is full of rude, low IQ people.

by Anonymousreply 18903/15/2019

Unlike NYC. No rude, low IQ people there!

by Anonymousreply 19003/15/2019

I once lived in NYC (1970s/early 80s) and had not been back in 20 years.

Some impressions:

I was shocked at how crowded it has become. Hordes of people everywhere.

The city once had a rather unified look: brick, limestone contrasting with sober well made modern glass & steel office buildings. Now there's so much reflective glass and showy contrasting architectural styles. It's now such a hodge-podge visually. There was a stately quality to mid-town, to 57th street, to CPS, that's gone now.

Enough as been said about Times Square. But I'll add that those huge TV-screen type signs all over the place are just a forgettable blur. Closing it to traffic, the bleachers and chairs just look so ...dumb.

The city does feel safe. I will say that. No looking over your shoulder now.

by Anonymousreply 19103/15/2019

One word: pathetic

by Anonymousreply 19203/15/2019

I have lived in NYC, MIami, Boston, and LA and would never move back to any of them , maybee... NYC if I was wealthy enough to live way up high and sheltered from the elements of everyday life smacking you in the face 24/7 .

by Anonymousreply 19303/16/2019

Where are you now R193? Peoria?

by Anonymousreply 19403/16/2019

Tell us about the airborne grit that gets into everything!

by Anonymousreply 19503/16/2019

R195 I thought it was just mainly my radiator.

by Anonymousreply 19603/17/2019

The toll even after a few years of living in NYC on my friends faces , aging significantly in a short period of time , and never leaving the city to experience other places with a varying degree of bitterness is completely evident with all of them.

by Anonymousreply 19703/18/2019

[QUOTE] The toll even after a few years of living in NYC on my friends faces , aging significantly in a short period of time

No, that's just the effects of smoking, drinking and meth.

by Anonymousreply 19803/18/2019

[QUOTE]No, that's just the effects of smoking, drinking and meth

And being size queens. Taking huge cocks up your ass also takes a toll on your face.

by Anonymousreply 19903/18/2019

r65 NYC being the center of the universe is 40 years plus, it's London now, but you probably haven't left in that time to experience it.

by Anonymousreply 20003/18/2019

Do people spend their lives moving from city to city, trying to catch the next in place to be?

by Anonymousreply 20103/18/2019

Yes. Especially the crazy ones who blow through friendships and relationships. They alienate everyone and have to move.

by Anonymousreply 20203/18/2019

For a lot of people, it’s hard to live somewhere else after being in NYC for a while. You get used to having so much available in all arenas (except nature). Not true for all people - everyone has different priorities and likes - but for me, I deal with the negatives because it gives me more than it takes.

by Anonymousreply 20303/18/2019

[quote]NYC being the center of the universe is 40 years plus, it's London now,

But not for long.

by Anonymousreply 20403/18/2019

R1 you just summed it all up , when I first moved there some described it as the best and worst of everything, sooo true even today.

by Anonymousreply 20503/18/2019

It's fabulous. I hate driving. I've lived uptown for 20 years and it's getting better all the time. If you haven't been uptown lately, here's a few things that are improved. 1. Completely repaved streets and repainted crosswalks, walk lights with timers. 2. Trees on every block, thanks to Bloomberg's 1 million tree initiative. 3. The parks on both sides of the island have been upgraded. Inwood Hill park has new trails and landscaping, Highbridge Park, you can walk from Manhattan and the Bronx on the old aqueduct. It's a national landmark and has security 24/7. 4. Colombia Presbyterian has expanded, built new buildings. 5. Every week there are new cute places opening, reminds me of EV in the 80's. 6. Hot Dominicans everywhere 24/7. 7. I have every gay guys dream apartment. It's free, I just have to have sex with the super a couple of times a week, do his laundry, cook his meals, marry him.

by Anonymousreply 20603/18/2019

A lot of people own vehicles in Manhattan now, so that they can commute to suburban jobs.

by Anonymousreply 20703/18/2019

R206 = Ethel Mertz

by Anonymousreply 20803/18/2019

R206 lives in a bodega.

by Anonymousreply 20903/18/2019

It's just easier. Delivery. For anything. Also, the odd things that might be a pain in suburbia are easy here. Shoe repair. Getting an old sweater mended. Everything is within 5 blocks. It's easier here in many ways.

by Anonymousreply 21003/18/2019

You feel briskly alive. There is more of a connection with other people. You can walk anywhere and take the subway. Lots of nightlife. The food choices are out of this world if you avoid the trendy, overrated places. And the art and theater .

by Anonymousreply 21103/18/2019

Ok... really, how much money would you have to earn a year to live a comfortable life living in Manhattan. Rental studio apartment. Nice (but not fancy) neighborhood.

by Anonymousreply 21203/18/2019

The best thing is being able to walk everywhere. It's very freeing. I can't imagine having to deal with a car. And there are different people everywhere. I love it but of course there are problems.

R212 - The prices are all over the map. You could live uptown for cheap but that's a haul to get to downtown which is where you'd probably want to hang out.

by Anonymousreply 21303/18/2019

You can make it happen on $65-$75k. $20k for rent, $5k insurance, $1k phone/internet, $1k unlimited subway travel- everything else is flexible. You can eat pizza, Chinese, rice and beans. You can live without cable. Plenty of cheap drink special places for $3 drinks - or buy cheap and do house parties. The major difference from other cities is rent and size of apartment. Otherwise it doesn’t have to be that much more explained than most of US.

by Anonymousreply 21403/18/2019

^expensive, not explained

by Anonymousreply 21503/18/2019

Thanks R214

by Anonymousreply 21603/18/2019

Can you still go out and find Chinese food at 3AM if you feel like it?

by Anonymousreply 21703/18/2019

Depends where R217. The rich neighborhoods are the worst. Like in the West Village, all 3 Chinese places closed - as did the 24 hour delivery diner. I think the more affordable neighborhoods have better options. But you can always find a deli for a sandwich or snack.

by Anonymousreply 21803/18/2019

If you live around 80th and Lexington, are you happy?

by Anonymousreply 21903/18/2019

I've mostly lived in scrappy low-income neighborhoods in Brooklyn and Manhattan. (I now live in Washington Heights.). Yes, there are 24-hour delis and Chinese places open at 3 am.

by Anonymousreply 22003/18/2019

Noisy, expensive and tons of fun

by Anonymousreply 22103/18/2019

R219 Only if you are a mommy vlogger.

by Anonymousreply 22203/18/2019

I lived through the 70s- early 80s in Brooklyn Heights, 2 blocks away was the Clark St. subway station---and don't tell me that's SO FAR AWAY from the city--the next subway stop was Wall Street. I had a one bedroom apartment but it was still too small, perfect view of lower Manhattan from most of my windows, the lovely brownstones, the authors and actors and wealthy bond traders were all my neighbors. Two blocks away was the lovely Promenade along the East River. Like anywhere else---NYC gets OLD and don't believe anyone who tells you differently. It is not exempt from the drudgery, the same thing night and day ennuie that attacks the spirit from most cities---and no number of Broadway shows, museums, dance clubs, bars or funky little restaurants will change that.

And then one time my friends dragged to the most exciting, wonderful city in the entire United States and its name is NEW ORLEANS.

Within a year, I was living on Chartres St. opposite the Richelieu Hotel on the top floor of a 150 year old two bedroom, 4 room apartment with working fireplaces in every room, 10 foot ceilings, ancient and gorgeous chandeliers in each room, a balcony from which my view down Chartres was the skyline of New Orleans--- and everything within walking distance. My neighbors were authors, actors, bartenders and law professors. My social life richer and more satisfying than ever before. I look now on those years in NY as valuable time pissed away. The money I was no longer spending living in NYC went into the stock market and now I'm close to having $2 million in stocks and mutual funds---I could never have done that in living in NYC.

I visit NYC often because I have family in Connecticut---but I would never live there again. I'll leave that for all the young farm boys and cowboys from Texas who, everyday, get off the bus in midtown thinking their lives are going to change and be better in NYC but most of that is illusion, marketing and sheer bullshit. There are very, very few things that NYC provides that New Orleans doesn't also provide, but much more importantly---there is so much more that New Orleans provides in my life than NYC ever could.

by Anonymousreply 22303/18/2019

Doesn't New Orleans have stunning poverty and crime?

by Anonymousreply 22403/18/2019

Your enthusiasm is refreshing, R223, and I'd move to New Orleans in a heartbeat. I've always thought it had many of the cultural and lifestyle attractions of NYC, and more, without the excruciating cost. But I work in public schools (and need to continue doing so in order to receive public service forgiveness of my student loans), and the system in NOLA is now completely charter. Perhaps after I retire...

by Anonymousreply 22503/18/2019

You must be thinking of New York City, R224.

by Anonymousreply 22603/18/2019

I lived in Hell's Kitchen for three years back in the 80's and all I remember is ROACHES everywhere!

by Anonymousreply 22703/18/2019

r174 Don't get too close to that bubble as it might burst and frighten you enough to see what the world truly offers.

by Anonymousreply 22803/18/2019

Perhaps, R174, is that your problem is that you have no imagination.

by Anonymousreply 22903/18/2019

Murder and non negligent manslaughter per 100,000

New Orleans. 39.5

New York 3.39

A bit of a difference, don't you think R226?

by Anonymousreply 23003/18/2019

And every New Yorker who claims they never have to leave their fabulous city defines an enlightening vacation to Jones Beach or somewhere in or off Long Island an amazing experience!

by Anonymousreply 23103/18/2019

I'd feel a hell of a lot safer in New Orleans than these 30 American cities.

by Anonymousreply 23203/18/2019

R230, you must have no understanding of the physical layout of the city of New Orleans. Most of those murders occur in the impoverished, black are called New Orleans East which is physically separated from New Orleans by a body of water and a very, very long and tall bridge. If you want to live where they are still recovering from Katrina, by all means, jump in. Many people born and bred in New Orleans have never even visited New Orleans East other than driving through it on I-10 to the sugar white beaches of Pensacola.

by Anonymousreply 23303/18/2019

R233, NFL player Will Smith was shot and killed in the Garden District, not New Orleans East.

by Anonymousreply 23403/18/2019

But the summers in New Orleans? And the hurricanes? Gurl, no.

by Anonymousreply 23503/18/2019

Looks like the Seventh Ward, the French Quarter and Central City have plenty of murders, R233.

by Anonymousreply 23603/18/2019

R223,

New Yorker here who recently visited New Orleans for a friend's destination birthday party. I'd been once in high school and once in college, and my oldest friend from middle school has lived there for more than two decades, but until a few weeks ago I'd not visited him there.

The good stuff: The food is amazing. I mean, really... It's so damn good I don't see how anyone keeps any semblance of a waistline. The combination of French, Creole and Southern cooking cultures is to die for. Also, the museums were impressive, as were a lot of the galleries.

And of course it's easily the biggest party city in the USA if not the planet. It is Louisiana, so it's Southern, and the people were incredibly friendly and fun.

But because it is the biggest party town, it seemed... How shall I put it? Bereft of any intellectual heft. There's no theater scene to speak of, not really, and how seriously can you take the local colleges when the drinking never ever ends? Yes, there's jazz, and damn, it is brilliant, but it should be noted that almost all the music is tied to... alcoholic beverage consumption.

The city seems to be fueled mainly by the dollars of tourists, and everyone I talked to seemed rather nostalgic for the good ole days of Tennessee Williams, Eudora Welty, Ernest Hemingway, etc., but those days are LONG gone.

Also, it's somewhat a walking city, but not like NYC. Much more spread out than I'd imagine, or at least it seemed that way.

But the segregation and race problems were in ample evidence, and the roads were in terrible disrepair. And in February it was already simmering with humidity. IN FEBRUARY. Who wants to live in that climate in the summer, and then face hurricane season?

I get why the city attracts authors and actors, at least for certain parts of the year, cause it's colorful, vibrant and unique. But if you're not into serious drinking and endless partying (which I am not), what does the city offer besides incredible cuisine? I'm afraid I'd be bored after a few weeks, but maybe that's because I've been in NYC for so long. You say that there very, very few things that New Orleans does not provide that NYC can, but that comment leaves me confused, cause I noticed many, many things that NO cannot provide that NYC does.

(Oh, and I loved the streetcar! What an amazing way to see the city.)

by Anonymousreply 23703/18/2019

[quote]there is so much more that New Orleans provides in my life than NYC ever could.

You mean like crawdaddies?

by Anonymousreply 23803/19/2019

I lived on Bourbon and Esplanade for two years and now I live in Chelsea. You can't even compare the two.

by Anonymousreply 23903/19/2019

It’s amazing. Someone can truly enjoy a city and New Yorkers will swoop in to brag about the alleged greatest city in the world. It’s so juvenile.

by Anonymousreply 24003/19/2019

As a NYer I could see the attraction to New Orelans. Or Philly. Or LA. I don’t think NYC is the only place to live. But the combo of people and activities keep me here and I have yet to feel as excited to live elsewhere. Visit a lot of other cities regularly and travel for work a lot - but always like to come home to NYC. But everyone is different.

by Anonymousreply 24103/19/2019

[quote][R206] = Ethel Mertz

Ethel only liked Cuban cigars. She wouldn't touch a Dominican cigar if you paid her.

by Anonymousreply 24203/19/2019

Yet, r240, you came into a thread ABOUT NYC and expected, what? People to shit on it?

by Anonymousreply 24303/19/2019

No, but I do expect that New Yorkers should be able to appreciate that some people enjoy living in other areas. That has never been my experience.

by Anonymousreply 24403/19/2019

[QUOTE] I'll leave that for all the young farm boys and cowboys from Texas who, everyday, get off the bus in midtown thinking their lives are going to change and be better in NYC

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 24503/19/2019

Blocked for stupidity. Needs to go to the "What's it like living in a dirty, racist,( many HAVE NEVER EVEN BEEN to E. N.O.), party town the size of Islip?" thread.

by Anonymousreply 24603/19/2019

I'm not the person you're arguing with, but is it now racist because someone has never been to "ENO"?

by Anonymousreply 24703/19/2019

If you are born and bred in a small city, smaller than Staten Island, and you eliminate an entire area of town that "many people born will never visit in their entire lives" for any reason, It's either racism or your town really is that shitty and dangerous. You decide. I don't have time for this.

I have to Iron my camouflage caftan, I'm going to the Ramble, to look for the first Robin of Spring, or the last dick of Winter.

by Anonymousreply 24803/19/2019

[quote]and you eliminate an entire area of town that "many people born will never visit in their entire lives" for any reason, It's either racism or your town really is that shitty and dangerous.

That is true of many towns and cities in the USA. Including NYC.

by Anonymousreply 24903/19/2019

@Breaking911

Meanwhile In New Jersey...

by Anonymousreply 25003/19/2019

Lol, R250. Outstanding.

by Anonymousreply 25103/19/2019

The best.

by Anonymousreply 25203/19/2019

Which area is better: Greenwich village? East village? West village?

by Anonymousreply 25303/19/2019

What is Strivers' Row like...have a friend who's thinking of moving there?

by Anonymousreply 25403/19/2019

This is true as it was several years ago, you need to spend the majority of your money on rent, and create your own little oasis in the middle of this mad city. After that everything else is gravy, food , appliances , furniture, etc because there is so much competition for your dollar it just takes time to figure out where to shop for these bargains. Other cities like SF, Boston , San Jose have even higher rents and you pay more for amenities than NYC because a lack of competition on every street corner and less compact, making NYC less expensive a place to live in after you add it all up.

by Anonymousreply 25503/19/2019

West, Greenwich, East Village - in that order.

by Anonymousreply 25603/19/2019

Oh, Yes! R230! Everyone checks out the crime reports before moving to a city (eyeroll). What cowardly life you live!

by Anonymousreply 25703/19/2019

R255, I doubt that. Look at the enormous state income tax living in New York. Look at your 8.9% sales tax. Look at the 3% tax you pay JUST FOR LIVING WITHIN THE CITY! It is absurd to believe NYC is a bargain---my God, look at the cities you are comparing it to! And speaking of bargains, what the hell do you mean? Have you not heard of the internet and Amazon? Or you are you scooping up junk on Canal Street and waving it around like the crazy Target Lady on Saturday Night Live?

Must be nice living in a city where you really don't need to own a vehicle, but who really wants to live that way? You know damn well every resident of NYC would prefer owning a vehicle if they could afford the parking space for it. And without it, without the absolute freedom a vehicle provides a man or woman in their lives on Earth, you may call it "enjoying NYC" on weekends---well, you'd better enjoy it because you are can't leave it. While the rest of us darting to beaches and mountainsides and festivals every weekend, we call what you are doomed to experience "stuck in NYC".

by Anonymousreply 25803/19/2019

I would love to see New Orleans. I really enjoyed the book "New Orleans Mon Amour" by Andrei Codrescu who lives there. His writing was entertaining and reminded me of John Berendt's "Midnight in the Garden of Good Evil.'

by Anonymousreply 25903/19/2019

"New Orleans: Elegance and Decadence" is one of my favorite design books. It shows the beautiful run down mansions and Creole cottages of New Orleans.

by Anonymousreply 26003/19/2019

Here is the breathtaking view from Hudson Yards looking toward scenic New Jersey. It's certainly worth paying tens of millions of dollars just to gaze at NJ from your apartment windows.

by Anonymousreply 26103/19/2019

What was at the Hudson yards and where did it go?

by Anonymousreply 26203/20/2019

Did any of the old trains overshoot where they were supposed to stop and shoot into river? That would be a lot of fun to see. I'll bet hundreds of people would drown to death!

by Anonymousreply 26303/20/2019

What do you think they are, R263, duckboats?

by Anonymousreply 26403/20/2019

R258 - Excess taxes in NYC - maybe 10% - is generally made up for in salary plus some. A $50k job in another city easily pays $60k in NYC. If you balance taxes and salary out, rent is the big increased cost of living in NYC.

I can honestly say, I prefer not having a car. I even have a weekend house in a town where I don’t need a car. Driving is a hassle and anxiety producing for me. I prefer public transport and Uber. May occasionally take a little longer but it eliminates a stressor in my life. And on occasion when I want to go to the beach or way upstate, renting a car is easy.

by Anonymousreply 26503/20/2019

I’m another Manhattan resident that doesn’t miss driving at all, nor do I feel trapped or not free or whatever.

I did keep a car in an outdoor lot for several years - over 10 years ago when it was much “cheaper” but still expensive - and maybe I’d use it twice in 3 months. And that was mostly to get to my parents outer boro place for Sunday dinner - accessible by public transit, but definitely much quicker by car - as long as there was no traffic.

It was really an easy decision to give it up, I just read when I commute out to family events, and with Zip Car the two times a year I REALLY need a car to get something done it costs around $130 for the day.

I know I’m a bit atypical, but I rarely have the desire to leave the city on weekends - especially in the summer when it actually empties out a bit. I’m not a country / hiking person at all, and you can get to rockaway beach by subway or a cheap charter bus.

by Anonymousreply 26603/20/2019

No @R261

by Anonymousreply 26703/20/2019

I (HEART) New York !

by Anonymousreply 26803/20/2019

Oh GAWD R266--Rockaway Beach? You see, that is square root of your problem. You have no imagination. Rockaway Beach, indeed! You sound like a poor serf declaring the gruel is especially tasty today.

OLD CAPE COD "If you're fond of sand dunes and salty air Quaint little villages here and there (You're sure)You're sure to fall in love with old Cape Cod (Cape Cod, that old Cape Cod)

If you like the taste of a lobster stew Served by a window with an ocean view (You're sure)You're sure to fall in love with old Cape Cod Winding roads that seem to beckon you

Miles of green beneath a sky of blue Church bells chimin' on a Sunday morn Remind you of the town where you were born If you spend an evening you'll want to stay Watching the moonlight on Cape Cod Bay You're sure…"

by Anonymousreply 26903/20/2019

$130 a Day is a bit steep for a car daily rental. You could probably get one for about $40 plus tax for unlimited miles for 24 hours.

by Anonymousreply 27003/20/2019

R266, yes, it it is R269 here again because I could only post one photo. Do me a favor, dear, send me postcard from your infrequent and joyous "Rockaway Beach Holidays" and don't forget to write and tell me all about the delightful mode of serfdom transport you chose to get there---- the "subway or cheap charter bus" (whatever the Hell that is!)---that you mentioned. I'll return the favor and tell you all about travelling through Connecticut and Rhode Island on I-95 in my Sebring convertible with the top down to the beaches and bars of my "Cape Cod Weekend".

Until then, dollface!

by Anonymousreply 27103/20/2019

When they say Ptown, do they mean Providence, RI?

by Anonymousreply 27203/20/2019

Question withdrawn @r272

by Anonymousreply 27303/20/2019

I love the last words on R250's video of the guy trying to get on the NJ bus with a stolen ATM as the bus driver shuts the door on him, did you hear it? Go back and listen to it if you missed it!

"For real? We cudda made money togetha!"

by Anonymousreply 27403/20/2019

[quote]West, Greenwich, East Village - in that order.

I've never really been able to figure out the difference between the West Village and Greenwich Village. I've always just thought of anything below 14th Street on the west side going down to about Chambers as the Village, period.

by Anonymousreply 27503/20/2019

Sorry, meant to write down to Houston, not Chambers.

by Anonymousreply 27603/20/2019

West Village is generally west of 6th Ave south of 14th and nort of Houston. East probably starts at 3rd/4th Ave. Greenwich would be the middle. Subject to debate but as a 30 year Villager, that’s my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 27703/20/2019

So where do the up and coming artists live--the real ones, not the ones with trust funds who produce mixed media collage? Long Island City?

by Anonymousreply 27803/20/2019

Bushwick in Brooklyn. Ridgewood in Queens. Washington Heights and Harlem in Manhattan.

by Anonymousreply 27903/20/2019

I just came back from Austin, Texas. I must say, I really liked it. Gorgeous secenery, many lakes and rivers, happening downtown scene, great music, culture and food/drink. The people were great, you didn't feel rushed by sales personnel either. It feels very accessible and everyone seems equal, whereas in NY it often feels like a class system. Austin was also dog friendly and had some good looking men. While I do think I could live there or elsewhere, there might always be a longing for New York because as a native, it's my city and it is unique. One thing about Austin is that with such influx of new people moving there, their infrastructure can't keep pace. I was also shocked at the homeless there, but that's for another thread.

by Anonymousreply 28003/20/2019

Manhattan is the center of the universe.

by Anonymousreply 28103/20/2019

I'm too poor to live there. Where do the people who do the jobs you don't want to do live? Like maids and handymen and so on. How much does their rent cost?

by Anonymousreply 28203/20/2019

R270 - you might be able to to a $40 rental at one of the airports - but they all take awhile to get to visa public transit / and then there is tax / gas / insurance & getting back from the airport when you return it. There are some hertz / enterprise / etc in manhattam but the base rental cost is higher, you still have the other charges and those places aren’t open 24 / 7 like the airport.

With zipcar you are definitely paying for the convenience, but that $13O includes taxes, gas and insurance, and the cars are gararged all over the city - you can pick one up a block or two away from your apartment.

You can rent by the hour - but after 5 or 6 hours the change is the same for 24 - so I usually reserve from 6am - 6am - then I can pickup & return the car at ant time within that window. You can pick up & return it at any time - those garages are always open, and you have a card or an app that unlocks the car during your reserved time, which you book online.

If you only need a car occasionally is insanely convieniebt - and again much less exoensive for me than garaging a car was considering how little I actually used the car all the years that I did do that.

by Anonymousreply 28303/20/2019

No one has mentioned the accessibility. Planes, trains, buses 24/7, There are always cheap tickets to FL. I just got a rt ticket for 140 on JetBlue to FLL, 10 days in advance. From the brand new GWB terminal uptown, there are non stop buses to Phl, Was, Bos, all for less than 30 dollars. Outside the terminal there are Small vans that go to Providence, Hartford, Poconos for 20. You can catch the Metro North at 125th and be hiking along the Hudson in 90 min.

by Anonymousreply 28403/21/2019

Good point R284. Didn’t know that - Penn Station buses have similar deals. NYC really does offer some of the best airport connections in the US. Lots of cheap airlines as well as easy Europe access. I used to go to London regularly for long weekends - only slightly longer than CA. Though it’s become more expensive lately, there are also a lot of new discount airlines like Norwegian, WOW, and soon Jet Blue to London.

R280 - I like Austin too but the complete car reliance and increasingly crazy traffic combined with the fact that it is still a kinda smallish would make it very hard to adapt to. I found Houston to be a little more dynamic and interesting - and a little less homegenously hipsterish. But again, the car thing is kind of a no-go.

by Anonymousreply 28503/21/2019

[quote]I'll return the favor and tell you all about travelling through Connecticut and Rhode Island on I-95 in my Sebring convertible with the top down to the beaches and bars of my "Cape Cod Weekend".

You drive a Sebring? A Sebring?

Do they they let you park it next to the bars you go to during your "Cape Cod Weekend"?

by Anonymousreply 28603/21/2019

R284 and R285, buses? Really?

Oh, how gauche!

by Anonymousreply 28703/21/2019

[QUOTE] I like Austin too but the complete car reliance and increasingly crazy traffic combined with the fact that it is still a kinda smallish would make it very hard to adapt to. I found Houston to be a little more dynamic and interesting - and a little less homegenously hipsterish. But again, the car thing is kind of a no-go.

Uh, but that's how most people live.

by Anonymousreply 28803/21/2019

Haha. Hard to adapt to. Most of the world loves that way, you clueless idiot. Step outside of your protective bubble every now and again.

by Anonymousreply 28903/21/2019

Which is why I choose not to live in most of the US R288. And I think that’s a big dividing line for some people. A lot of Americans can’t imagine living without a car. I hate having a car. It’s one thing that keeps me in the Northeast US. It would be a major downgrade in my quality of life if I had to drive everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 29003/21/2019

Yeah R290 - the weird “bubble Troll” doesn’t seem to understand that we know we don’t live like most people in the US, but we are totally fine with that.

Most people do need cars, and most of them probably love their cars & love driving - that’s great for them. I don’t need or want a car & that’s great for me. Live & let live. It ain’t that hard to do.

by Anonymousreply 29103/21/2019

I love not having a car. LOVE. In fact, I moved to NYC so I would not have to drive everywhere to get anything done, or to have any fun.

So yes, R258, there are many of us who are thrilled not to have to drive to see a movie, or get food, or whatever. I love walking everywhere. My not having a car has NOTHING to do with the affordability of a parking space.

by Anonymousreply 29204/08/2019

[quote] The fact that you can get anywhere without driving

Thank goodness for NYC public transport

by Anonymousreply 29304/08/2019

I agree R292. I have owned a car since I was able to get my driver's license in 1970. I have been driving since then until a few months ago (my whole adult life) when my car needed so much work and I just sold it "As Is" and have not purchased another car. And don't plan too either. The freedom! Amazing.

I got sick and tired of everything involved in car ownership and nasty cops eager to hand out tickets for nothing and rising insurance rates. Fuck that. I am retired now anyway. I love walking everywhere. I also live in the city and didn't realize how much stress owning a car was causing me until I got rid of it.

I love being driven around by cabs, Uber ,etc. and if I need to get to the airport I can take the Town Car complete with personal driver or the shuttle and don't need to hassle with parking and worry about leaving my car there for a week. If I need to visit family in NJ, I can take the train from Penn Station or to take a drive to the countryside just rent a car for the day. Finally done with the hassle of owning a car.

by Anonymousreply 29404/09/2019

I live in NYC and own a car. Many people do. Since it’s in a garage and i only use it in the summer and about 1x/month otherwise, it still looks brand new and has very little mileage after 7 years. Sure it would be cheaper to rent a car, but i enjoy the freedom of knowing I have a car.

NYC is great, but not for everyone. Kind of like caviar.

Once you own your apartment, the cost of living is very similar to other cities... except for taxes. Someone has to pay for political corruption and free services for the poor I suppose.

by Anonymousreply 29504/09/2019

Just when you think you've seen it all.

by Anonymousreply 29604/15/2019

Oops!

by Anonymousreply 29704/15/2019

Last time I was in the city, my friend and I couldn't get over how much the streets reeked of piss. I told this to a mutual friend who also visits the city on a regular basis and he said the same thing. The place stinks of piss nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 29804/15/2019

Is it like the movie The Wackness?

by Anonymousreply 29904/15/2019

R298, that’s because it’s no longer a crime to piss in the streets. And I’m DEAD SERIOUS.

by Anonymousreply 30004/15/2019

The BART is amazing too.

by Anonymousreply 30104/15/2019

R300 Oh I know. I was waiting outside Penn Station for my cousin to show up and was witness to a crazy homeless guy not only run up to and scream at random women but also drop his pants and take a shit on the sidewalk in front of everyone.

by Anonymousreply 30204/15/2019

I would think the air is filthy. How do you folks breathe and not get sick?

by Anonymousreply 30304/15/2019

R303 the air is dirty. Many people here are sick more often then when not here.

Also I’m a NYC Native and even I am rolling my eyes at some of these over the top comments from white men that moved here. Reality is you’re from the states you trash daily. You’re not a product of NYC and will never be one of us in reality.

by Anonymousreply 30404/15/2019

It smells like narcissism.

by Anonymousreply 30504/15/2019

There's human poop all over the streets, and "campsites" everywhere. Aggressive panhandlers. People dressed in plastic bags, directing traffic.

by Anonymousreply 30604/15/2019

My bitchy gay boss from Chicago lives in Manhattan cause he wouldn’t dare move here from Illinois to live in Brooklyn or somewhere not as worthy 🙄

by Anonymousreply 30704/15/2019

R306 you're getting Manhattan confused with San Francisco.

by Anonymousreply 30804/15/2019

R304... and we are all thankful that we are NOT one of you.

by Anonymousreply 30904/15/2019

R309 yet you wanna live in my hometown.

Go back to your home “flyover” state

by Anonymousreply 31004/15/2019

R210, I don't live in your hometown and have no desire to live anywhere near it. Can't stomach the putrid arrogance.

by Anonymousreply 31104/15/2019

Tucker Carlson, is that you posting here? "THERE"S POOP EVERYWHERE!!!!!"

by Anonymousreply 31204/16/2019

R299 Josh Peck is from HK born and raised, and nails the accent and all that “yo, yo” schtick. It still didn’t help that film any.

by Anonymousreply 31304/16/2019
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