Most Beautiful Black woman of all time?

So Obama wasn't the first Black president? Many African Americans are going to be "mixed race".

Pam Grier

Racist idiot.

Zoe Kravitz

R1 Yeah, I'm fine with some racial admixture as it's obvious that all Black have it. But I'd like you avoid one of you declaring an extremely light skinned women with light eyes or something like that as the most beautiful Black woman you've seen.

No, I don't consider Obama the first Black president. He's mixed race.

R3 Why are you throwing a hissy fit?

R4 She's not even attractive

Loni Anderson

This thread is icky.

Salli Richardson

R5 - Kravitz is just effortlessly cool and sexy. Her mom, Lisa Bonet, is stunning as is her dad.

Lauryn Hill

Helen Williams and Iman are two of the most stunning women ever to model. Can't seem to link pics- hope someone else will.

Aretha Franklin

Whitney Houston

Not the most beautiful of all time but certainly "BLACK and Beautiful". Betty Davis

Meghan Markle

Just ride the L train in NYC and you will see plenty of beautiful black women.

Whitney Houston

R12 - Is that Aretha or Mo'Nique?

Diana Ross

Rihanna

LOL, R12

I take it you like watermelon?

Helen Williams R12 I take it you like AIDS and meth? I had forgotten that White gays can be as racist as their straight counterparts. Remarkable really

Iman

I agree R19

Janet pre nose job was adorable

You can sit in a coffee shop in NYC and see ten black women better looking than Zoe Kravitz walk by in less than two hours.

R22 thanks for letting us know you're a homophobe too!

Stacey Dash - Clueless era. When did she become a crazy Fox News republican????

There's a black woman, who's an actress apparently, that I've seen in some Buzzfeed videos. She's the most beautiful, elegant, handsome, pretty gorgeous woman I've ever seen. I wish I knew her name.

R29 she's on buzzfeed videos? I somehow doubt your story

Butterfly McQueen

Iman/close thread!

R29 - Kerry Washington? I don't know about Buzz Feed, but I think of her as classic, elegant, etc.

R28 The question is when and how did she get ten shades lighter. She was never that attractive

Why are gay men talking debating the beauty of women? It's none of your business or your concern. All it shows is that they are the racist misogynists everyone thinks they are.

Nia Long

Janelle, Miss Universe 1977 from Trinidad and Tobago. Gorgeous. The obvious winner on first sight.

A young Jayne Kennedy was also stunning.

Gabrielle Union

R35 - Considering most women hire gay men to help enhance their beauty, I don't see what the problem is. Beauty is beauty and what's wrong with appreciating that. People like you that shout racism and misogony at the drop of the hat are part of the problem.

2nd Vote - Gabrielle Union

Naomi Harris is also a looker. She has similar looks to Union in my opinion.

I'll go with Naomi Campbell.

OP started and closed his own thread.

Don't forget me!

Have we forgotten Lupe N....whatever her last name is?

As I and another poster said, if you walk around Manhatten for an hour you will see more beautiful black women than listed on this post.

Also, When I worked in Northern Nigeria/Niger years ago, there were many incredibly beautiful Tuareg and Fulani women.

Sorry, Lupita

[quote] Considering most women hire gay men to help enhance their beauty

Most women DO NOT hire men to enhance their beauty, no matter how many Real Housewives shows you watch. Get over yourself.

Unless they're as dark as Lupita Nyongo, aren't every one of the previous women mixed (with something.

Naomi Campbell - mixed with Chinese

Pam Grier - mixed with Filipino

Rihanna - she has GREEN eyes FFS. Ditto for Stacey Dash

Diana Ross, Megan Sparkle, and Whitney have some honky in their genealogy.

Iman gets a pass. She does look Ethiopian long neck and huge eyes. I had a neighbor that was from Ethiopia that looked like her

I just googled "Ethiopian models" and dozens of incredibly beautiful women popped up.

Does Vanessa Williams count?...

stunning beverly johnson! she's not even wearing makeup here:

Lupita Nyong'o

Helen Folasade Adu, CBE.

A Nigerian Goddess without peer.

Starvin Marvin the Ethinopian

Iggy Azalea

Grace Jones. Personality, vibrancy, looks. Complete package.

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R56 wins!!!....

my text got lost in r57

Rachel Dolezal..........................oh wait she isn't black she only thinks she is black

Reba

R22 WTF is racist about mentioning the first black super model as one of the most stunning women? Helen Williams is a legend who broke down major barriers that led to the likes of Beverly Johnson and Naomi Campbell scoring major campaigns. She did it first, and against all odds. If there's one thing I can't stand it's an ignorant bigot. Thanks for outing yourself as such.

Waris Dirie. I remember seeing her face in a magazine many years ago and I had to take a minute to appreciate her beauty. Just beautiful.

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R48 Iman is Somalian, not Ethiopian. Still beautiful though.

She got dragged for her Oscar campaign, but Margaret Avery already won the genetic lottery. Saw her a while back on a show on BET (can't remember what) and she still looked stunning.

R48 The racial admixture your trying to mention is probably 10% or less if it's even true. You're an idiot if you think every African woman is as dark as Lupita. Whitney, Diana, Naomi, Pam, and the others all have strong West African features which is all that matters

This is a pure West African woman.

R61 I was responding to a previous comment it had nothing to do with Helen Williams, I was just posting her picture dumbass

Most black men and women regardless of their mix or origin are more attractive than most white people. That's part of the problem of American racism. Your slaves became your betters and some can't stand it.

Avery really was gorgeous. I wonder why her career went so flat. It can't all be that Oscar campaign, can it? That was just one ad in Variety, not that bad of a deal. Even with less ops for black women, seems like there would've been plenty of places for her especially as a beauty.

young Phylicia Rashad deserves a mention in here

Oprah

-Gayle

Someone has already mentioned them but it bears repeating- Lisa Bonet and Zoe Kravitz.

R72 Both plain Janes and mixed race, stop trolling

I don't care what anyone else says. The answer is Whitney

If you're naming these two, just say I don't respect Black beauty and leave the thread

Agree with r74 and others. Whitney was stunning. Her looks were a major component of her commercial appeal.

The crown goes to Vanity (Prince) Runner-up is Olivia Brown (Miami Vice)

Another vote for Whitney.

She was never a raving beauty, but let's hear it for Janet Jackson's abs.

Aaliyah

Toni Braxton

(Also agree with Naomi Campbell, Iman, Nia Long, Kerry Washington and Gabrielle Union)

Lol at Toni Braxton. Rhinoplasty does wonders. She's disqualified

Ugh: Copy/Paste fail (sorry for posting that asshole drinking alcohol)

The beautiful Ms. Braxton (R82: most of the women on this thread have surgery, fake hair etc. Toni qualifies!)

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R77 Vanity was beautiful but...

Vanity was born on January 4, 1959 as Denise Katrina Matthews in Niagara Falls, Ontario, the daughter of Helga Senyk and Levia James Matthews. Her mother was of German, Jewish, and Polish descent, and was born in Germany, while her father was of African-American descent and was born in Wilmington, North Carolina.

Vanessa Williams

Lena Horne.

Issa Rae - beautiful, smart, funny and creator/writer of her own television show and head of her own production company. She is a great role model for young black girls and women as she's not relying on her looks but on her brains and talent plus she's a Stanford graduate.

R83. Fake hair is fine, fake face isn't. This is a measurement of facial beauty. Most of the women named don't have major rhinoplasty.

The Jacksons were a decent looking family before they fucked up their noses

This woman...

R88 That's all great and dandy but she has the mouth of a horse and she's gaunt. This is a thread about outer beauty, not inner beauty and role models

Jayne Kennedy!

R85 This is an orchestrated attack. Some people are only naming mullatos or white passing women on purpose.

Exhibit A: r86

Someone even named a hideous women like Lena Horne

R93: WTF - Vanessa Williams is NOT mulatto or a white woman passing! See her parents at link! She has white in her ancestry (as do most African Americans), but she is not biracial.

R91, I agree, Issa has gotten too thin. She was more beautiful when she made her Web Series, Awkward Black Girl.

Are you the OP of this thread, requesting black women who are not white looking or don't have an inch of white in them? Issa Rae is dark, African heritage. You must be too difficult to please. Beauty is only skin deep and in the eyes of the beholder. I think she's beautiful but she also has other qualities that should elevate the black woman from being just a physical object.

R93 She is mixed in the same way that Zoe Kravitz is mixed. Her mother and father are both part of family's that are multigenerational mixed raced. She's 51% European despite being "Black" and both her parents being "Black" according to the standards of the day. So yes, she is Biracial in the truest since of the word.

The results of a DNA test she took: 23% from Ghana, 17% from the British Isles (specifically English, Welsh and Irish), 15% from Cameroon, 12% Finnish, 11% Southern European, 7% from Togo, 6% from Benin, 5% from Senegal, and 4% Portuguese.[4]

Naomi Campbell is mixed, she's part Chinese.

R95 I'm shallow, this is a shallow thread. Issa is remarkable but she's not remarkable to look at. Im not too hard to please, every other Black woman named in this thread is better looking, the other Black women on Insecure are better looking.

Ugh R96: You're so tiresome. Black is black in all its flavors!

R97 Bullshit, that's never been proven and she doesn't fucking look Chinese at all. Neither does her mother. It's supposed to be some great grandparent anyway. That's less than 5%. People just want to claim racial admixture because of her beauty. She looks straight out of West Africa.

You forgot about me???

R99 Look at the tragic mulatto, make your own thread Bitch. Why does a person whose 51% White get to claim Black? If she tried to claim she was White, you'd all laugh in her face. Doesn't seem fair to me

All black women who were born in western countries are more than likely 50% other; Op, I would suggest you close this thread and create a new one called "Dark Skinned Black Women".

R103 Nope. Most Black people are about 10-20% non Black but often it can be even less than that. I'm sure someone like Oprah is over 90% Sub Saharan African. I don't have a problem with the shade or some racial admixture. Half of my family is as light as Lena Horne but the rest of our phenotype is largely Sub sharan African. High cheekbones, Full lips, etc. is what I wanted to see no matter the shade. There's no difference between someone that looks like Vanity and a white woman which is what I wanted to keep to a minimum.

D104 She was Indian and White, not Black.

Well, this thread devolved quickly. Comforting to know that black people have their own version of the bi vs. gay parsing debate.

Back on track, equestrienne/model/Alfre Woodard daughter Marcus Spencer:

yes, you are shallow. OP. This is why it will be a short thread.

" . . . it is 91-thousand damn degrees . . ."

This lovely beauty is especially beautiful because she eloquently speaks 'our' (DL) language. Yaaaasss, Gurl!

Enjoy!

MAVIS Spencer.

The woman at R100 looks like she has asian genes. Sorry naysayers.

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OP, Naomi IS mixed race.

R112 - except those are facsimiles of the original faces.

R113 She's not and if she is, it's insignificant. It's 10% or less. She's a fucking darkskinned Black woman. If she's mixed race, then I'm White. Yah loony bin

Naomi Fucking Owns This Post!! This picture was taken this past October.

This is as stereotypically West African as it gets. Flat nose, high and defined cheekbones, dark brown skin, and full lips. Not a single white or Asian feature on her especially before the nose job

[quote]R48 Unless they're as dark as Lupita Nyongo, aren't every one of the previous women mixed (with something.)

Certainly if the bloodlines go back through American slavery, chances are there's a mixture of races, as there was so much rape by white slave owners : (

One of the most beautiful black women in America was fashion model Naomi Sims. I believe she was the first one to achieve the same level of prestige and fame as the white models of that time period (late 60s - early 70s).

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r36, agreed, I think Nia Long is gorgeous.

龍女士的眼睛

Pat Cleveland could rock a caftan with the best....

. . . and in addition to this elegant loveliness, her hair is the real thing.

Imaan Hammam, and she self-identifies as black so I don't give a fuck if OP throws a hissy fit

Ladies and Gentlemen, Miss Grace Jones . . .

The Ebony Fashion Fair models.

Eunice Johnson, wife of Ebony magazine publisher John H. Johnson, found "Fashion Fair" in the 1950s, which showcased beautiful black women wearing the latest haute couture in yearly nationwide tours. This was to show that beauty, style, and grace could definitely be found in women of African descent.

Me hunties, ME!

Veronica Webb is probably the most naturally inteligent fashion model I've heard speak...

I don't think anyone could say with a straight face that any of this women are more beautiful than young Naomi Campbell.

She was breathtaking.

Not exactly the highest bar in the world to clear, R130.

Khadija Adam

I think all African Americans are to some degree mixed.

Lena Horne. I once met her at a dinner for 200 at a NYC hotel, and she was in her early 70's. Flawless. I was looking for signs of cosmetic surgery but there were none. She was absolutely flawless. And very personable. She walked around to all the tables visiting with everyone. I was someone else's guest and I just sat there gaping at her.

As for today, with younger women I'd have to say Lupita Ny'ongo.

R135 She had piss colored teeth and she was ugly. Some of you really do have the taste of gay men. Try to pick a woman that straight people would admire, will you? She looks like a burn victim

Liya Kebede

Gelila Bekele.

Lola Falana.

I'm kicking all your asses for your preferences for 'black' women with perfectly structured 'white' facial features. It's because such facial features in a person of 'color' are nonthreatening to you snowflakes, yes?

diahann carroll

Whitney Houston by far

Lupita Nyong’o gorgeous!

Allow me to introduce you to Kate Menson, model from Ghana who is finally getting some attention. Incredible beauty.

R137 you're on the DL here not Lipstick Alley. Fuck off.

Make that R136 the homophobic LSA nutjob. Fuck off.

r143, never seen her before, she is beautiful.

R140 She's just not attractive to me. As others have said, Lupita is beautiful and she doesn't look European at all

What is LSA?

That's just it about young Naomi Campbell. She had dark almost ebony skin, a flat long nose, high cheekbones, a strong but narrow jaw, perfect but very full lips and what we call chinky eyes. Long gorgeous limbs, high water ass and just enough neck for a woman. I am a black man of African descent and I have "chinky" eyes too. They are very sexy but have nothing to do with having Asian heritage.

Still I need make a distinction between young Naomi and the face and affect she sports now. She's made some alterations that don't erase her heritage but alter the harmony of it. She still has a beautiful dark body (thickened) but she fucked with her nose and pumped up the cheek volume. False eyelashes and wigs hide her beauty. So yes to my eyes Naomi IS the most beautiful black woman of our time because she has black features and for 20 years was stunning. Lupita Nyong'o is cute compared to Naomi. Most of the BLACK women that WHITES find beautiful have more white features, regardless of their skin tone. This whole topic is racist but you can still learn something from it.

R148 Lipstick Alley. It's where you homophobic bitches belong. Please defect. You'll love it there and we'll all be glad to see you go. Win/win

Beverly Peele was something...!

Marilyn McCoo

Geraldine

Not to say she's the most beautiful of all time, but I really like Duckie. Straight from Sudan (to Australia). Her sister is beautiful too.

Whatever race she is or even if she is from Mars, Merle Oberon at R104 was fucking gorgeous. I swear, I have never seen her like that before but she is also one whose work I need to see more too.

Naomi Campbell herself has said she has a Chinese ancestor. It's not conjecture. It's not uncommon for people of African ancestry in Jamaica, where her family is from, to have a little Asian ancestry.

Gabby Cinnabon

Naomi had a grandparent on her father's side whose last name was "Ming" and who had Chinese ancestry.

You forgot about me so soon !!!

Meghan Markle

R158 She's a Black woman with West African Features you dumb cunt. I don't care if some far off ancestor might have been Chinese. It's nowhere on her face dumbass. Would you claim you were Black if you found out a great, great grandparent is Black.

R160 It wasn't funny the first time she was named either

Gorgeous R140. I wish we could see more like that person (woman?) in mainstream media.

Here is a throwback. Mary Wilson of the Supremes was so very pretty when she was in the Supremes.

R163 You don't even know her gender.

Nope, most black Americans have about 40-60% of other in their DNA.

R118 that reminds of a thread on LSA. A lot of them took a 23 Ancrestry or something like that, and they were crying over the fact they weren't really "black". African Americans are very mixed; it's gonna be rare for an African American who be "pure" African. However, there have been plenty of cases of white people being "pure" European in American but there are also many cases of white people having some African in them..like that one KKK dude. Boy, was he upset.

y'all suckers forgot about me !

[quote]I don't care what anyone else says. The answer is Whitney

Then why did you create this thread, OP?

[quote]I'd like you avoid one of you declaring an extremely light skinned women with light eyes or something like that as the most beautiful Black woman you've seen.

[quote]This is as stereotypically West African as it gets. Flat nose, high and defined cheekbones, dark brown skin, and full lips. Not a single white or Asian feature on her especially before the nose job

Taking statements like these into consideration, I agree with R103 who said,

[quote]Op, I would suggest you close this thread and create a new one called "Dark Skinned Black Women".

I also agree with R7, this thread is icky.

[quote]R137 you're on the DL here not Lipstick Alley. Fuck off

[quote]Make that R136 the homophobic LSA nutjob. Fuck off.

R136 is the OP.

[quote]R88 That's all great and dandy but she has the mouth of a horse and she's gaunt.

[quote]R95 I'm shallow, this is a shallow thread. Issa is remarkable but she's not remarkable to look at. Im not too hard to please, every other Black woman named in this thread is better looking, the other Black women on Insecure are better looking.

[quote]R135 She had piss colored teeth and she was ugly. Some of you really do have the taste of gay men. Try to pick a woman that straight people would admire, will you? She looks like a burn victim

You're revealing yourself to be more than just shallow, OP. You can disagree with someone's opinion without being insulting.

[quote]she doesn't fucking look Chinese at all. Neither does her mother.

[quote]I know what a Black person of Asian ancestry looks like and that's not it at all. Asian genetics are STRONG and I don't see them in Naomi or her mom.

OP: Like all of us, Naomi has two parents, her father was part Chinese so her mother's appearance is irrelevant.

From 2010:

[quote]Naomi grew up believing herself to be unattractive. Skinny, tall and angular with confusingly Afro-oriental features, she was known at school as Olive Oyl. Her mother, Valerie, danced in a Seventies go-go troupe called Fantastica, and was on the road for weeks on end. Her father was a long-gone, Chinese-Jamaican known around south London as Mr. Ming. Until she was 10, little Naomi was largely raised by friends and relatives.

It would seem the winner is between Naomi Campbell, Whitney Houston, and Megan Markle-whatever. These are the names that keep popping up. But isn't Markle white? Who's black in her family?

Lena Horne was beautiful.

R170 Her mom

[QUOTE] You don't even know her gender.

We’re not supposed to assume gender anymore. That person can be whatever they want to be, and obviously they are non-binary.

No vote on Whitney , she went all ghetto and shit at the end

R174 Yes on Whitney. Vivian Leigh is the most beautiful White woman I've ever seen and she looked a lot shittier in the her end. Funny of you to mock her addiction when a lot of people would named fat ass Marilyn if this was a question of White women and I'm sure Elvis would get a mention for men. No ones young foreverz Fuck you

Whitney weave sometime fine and sometime like wooooooo

R176 She didn't start the night looking disheveled

Vivian Leigh at the same age as Whitney

R174 Thought that was Rhianna?

R175 Gurl what be wrong ? You out of minutes on your Assurance phone again ...

Don't forget about me!

R180 No, I'm not. How's your prolapsed anus? Hopefully your meth addiction eases the pain.

All rise , the true beauty has arrived

[quote] Naomi Campbell herself has said she has a Chinese ancestor. It's not conjecture. It's not uncommon for people of African ancestry in Jamaica, where her family is from, to have a little Asian ancestry.

Jamaicans are more likely to have European ancestry than Asian ancestry. There is a mythology among blacks in Jamaica that many have Asian or East Asian ancestry -- they don't -- but it was just to shift focus away from slavery and the stigma of coercion and illegitimacy that is attendant to miscegenation during the time of slavery. The same is true of most African-Americans who believe they have Native American ancestry.

Norma Shearer.

White people are frickin bizarre. I am as black as black can be but because I am conventionally attractive I must be mixed according to them. I've had white people argue with me about my own heritage! It's like because they find you attractive, you must be mixed! They won't allow their ego to find someone black and beneath them beautiful.

There were times I felt like that poor jewish girl in schindlers list and that loon amon? The nazi who found her attractive and was filled with lust and rage and hated himself for finding her attractive. That was basically me in high school during the 90s in an all white school. I had 90s rocka billys greasers and surf nazis with a dose of working white class trash lusting after me and threatening me when I didn't return the "compliments". And physically throwing me against walls and feeling me up. Yeah good times. Ugh. 😩

Another Grace Jones vote

For racial minorities, the more European your look the more attractive you are to many white people. But that comes from years of advertising and brainwashing of what beautiful is. Black girls damaged their hair for years with relaxers. Jewish girls get nose jobs at 16. Asian girls get eyelid surgery. But looks and genetics are evolving. Just in my lifetime you all white people with fuller lips and curvier bodies. White people have asses now. So in a few generations we're all going to look Brazilian.

Kelly Rowland

R186, that's insane and I'm sorry you had to go through that bullshit. I had a friend in high school who had light skin and constantly was accused of being mixed.. Her mom had medium skin a dad had very dark skin, as did her older sister. Because of her skin tone, Jamie was constantly gossiped about, that her mom must have cheated with a white guy, even though she was clearly her dad's child (face shape and some features were identical). The whole family was really good looking and both Jamie and her sister were excellent students. Jamie also had a natural talent for drawing. I think a lot of the b.s. she went through was based upon pure jealousy.

Joan Smalls

Golden Age Beautful Black Woman - Dorothy Dandridge.

More Dorothy.

Modern Age Black Beauty - Janelle Monae

More Janelle.

Naomi Campbell can be beautiful with makeup but her toxic personality ruins the whole package. She's thrown way too many phones at her assistants for my comfort level.

Shelia E. Saw her live about a year ago, and she she still has it in spades.

Definitely Diana Ross

Forgot this, my favorite.

R197 A thread has been made for mixed women. Pleasure remove yourself. If you're not going to name an actual black woman, please don't fucking respond

R200 = Rachel Dolezal

Weird, I met Vanity back in the 80s when she came in for a movie (a bit stoned, I think, but sweet) -- and the camera definitely loved her. In person, she looked a bit, well, BIG for lack of a better word. Not fat, not stocky, but that linebacker kind of build that doesn't really work on film. She'd look huge next to tiny leading men.

Totally Vanessa Williams

Stunning

R203 Not even in the top 10. Name someone else

Flori Roberts

Second for Liya Kebede. Actually from Africa so she should pass the purity test.

Liya, with a good link.

Gawd, who is this poster who wants pure black women.

if they live in the US or even Europe, most likely they have mixed race.

Model Bria Myles is very attractive.

Nichelle Nichols' gorgeous eyes alone could wipe the floor with half the examples on this thread.

Candice Patton

R210 She looks like an alien

Kylie Bunbury

I also say Nichelle Nichols.

This thread will end in tears

Naomi and Gabrielle Union are two of the leaders, for sure.

GuGu Mbatha Raw stunning. No I 'm not posting a photo. Look it up.

Ignorant OP. Unless you are going to only post African women, all Black women are "mixed race" to varying degrees. Including Naomi Campbell. It may have been several generations ago but it happened.

[quote]No, I don't consider Obama the first Black president. He's mixed race

The OP has spoken: Fuck what anyone, including Obama, thinks. And then proceeds to nominate the part Chinese Naomi Campbell. 😂

Seriously, OP. Pay attention to r218. If we went by your insane purist standards then there are no black people in America as all black Americans are "mixed" as you ridiculously put it. "Pure" black women exist only in Africa. Speaking of which, my choice of most beautiful black woman just happens to be African: Iman. Halle Berry is a close second, but it's a different kind of beauty - Iman is exotic and beautiful while Halle Berry is more next door pretty.

R219 Halle Berry is overrated and Naomi Campbell is not fucking part Chinese. Dumbass

R219 My standards are not insane. I said no direct biracials, any thing else is up for grabs. I'm well aware of the racial make up of Black People. Half of my family ranges from Beyoncé to Mariah in coloring. I know why. Fuck you

R219 Halle Berry is the most beautiful White woman of all time

No particular order:

- Pam Grier

- Naomi Campbell

- Salli Richardson

- Diane Carroll

- Whitney Houston

- Lauryn Hill

- Bern Nadette Stanis

Stop naming other women especially if they are as far removed from the West African phenotype as possible

R217 She's mixed

Jessica Sula

[quote]My standards are not insane. I said no direct biracials, any thing else is up for grabs. I'm well aware of the racial make up of Black People. Half of my family ranges from Beyoncé to Mariah in coloring. I know why. Fuck you

So who made you arbiter of what is black? Fuck you! Halle Berry, Bob Marley, Malcolm X are all black despite being "direct biracials" as you say. However, I wouldn't consider Mariah Carey or Meghan Markle, black. Race is a social construct and you're basically what people perceive and how you self-identify. Mariah (who ridiculously tries to call herself black) or Meghan (who doesn't) walking down the street wouldn't be called black by anyone. But Obama and Alicia Keys would. Obama writes about how white women would cross the street as he approached in one of his books.

You people have to stop stereotyping African women, even they don't look the same. Khadija Adam is from Kenya, the same country as Lupita Nyong'o. She's descended from a line of chiefs so she's sure about her lineage. Yet they do not look the same.

Now that I know how ugly Naomi C. is inside I cannot see a beautiful woman. Every time I see her I always think of what an ugly human being she is.

Khadija Adam was Miss Kenya in 1984, by the way. Says she looked like most girls in her nomadic village and wasn't considered special. It was only when she moved to the West when people started calling her beautiful

[quote]Naomi Campbell is not fucking part Chinese. Dumbass

Naomi Campbell's dad is mostly Chinese.

Biracials are not black.

[quote]Biracials are not black.

Says who? Notice how it's only black people who have these self-sabotaging intra-racial debates designed divide them even further after they've been discriminated against by the dominant race who don't give a fuck about your complexion or admixture?

Meanwhile Keanu Reeves, Dean Cain and Sean Lenon are all seen as white men despite being half Asian because, they look white.

Naomi was lovely in the beginning. But between the drugs, whoring for Russian oligarchs, bad facial implants and traction alopecia, she has lost her hotness.

R230 I find that hard to believe because she doesn't look fucking Chinese

R226 cry harder bitch, you're not fucking Black

Meagan Tandy

Ashanti is the most beautiful black woman. Not only beautiful with a gorgeous smile, she is talented, nice, and classy. Kelly Rowland also!

Megan Markle is fugly. It's like she fell out the top of the Ugly Tree and hit every branch on the way down.

Naomi C is not part chinese lol she only said that decades ago to seem more exotic back in the beginning of her career.

This just goes back to what I said earlier about white people not accepting that I am fully black because they find me physically attractive. Mind you I am darker than Naomi and am unmistakably black. White people won't accept it because they find me attractive, i simply must be mixed! They are nutty. They won't allow themselves to find a black person attractive because of their own sick hangups. Narcissism is very common in the white race. Trust me, I grew up around them.

White people don't care if you're mixed or not, r238. You're black either way. Colorism only comes from colorstruck blacks. Other races don't notice or care.

R238 Run! Run away from the crazy white people!!!

But you won't, because clearly you get off on them finding you attractive. You loved it when those white boys were coming on to you! Be honest, how many white boys have you fucked?

R239 That hasn't been my personal experience but I was raised in an all white town, all white school etc so my experience is different and they cared . Also, asians have their own issues with colorism and so do latinos.

I now live in a diverse area and haven't dealt much with colorism or racism but then again, I rarely go out anymore.

Lola Chuil

In my studies of Africa, I discovered there is a tribe of indigenous people in South Africa region, they are from the original Africans who lived in that area, they are the Koi San, I believe and they are a coppery, sandy, brown color, not Black. So yes, Africans come in all colors. Ethiopians, Nigerians, West Africa, East Africa, North Africa, etc. It is a constant irritation to be sometimes I get angry about it, but the world and ignorant assholes like Trump have always referred to "Africa" completely ignoring the fact it is a Continent and there are many countries on that continent with their own specific histories, cultures and tribes for want of a better word.

I forgot about Shar Jackson! I think she is beautiful in a girl-next-door kind of way. Plus, she's such a sweetheart.

R240 I just wasn't ever into them like that.

THREAD IS RACIST PLEASE KILL IT

Lola

Amerie, someone who [italic]looks[/italic] asian and black.

The fact that Whitney looked like she did and had that voice is a once in a generation occurrence. We'll probably not see another such combination again in our lifetime.

I’m glad Khadija Adams is getting some love in this thread; she is absolutely stunning.

I nominate actress Stephanie Williams. Lark Voorhies during the 90s was pretty, too.

r246 is actually right. This is like starting a thread for the 'Most Beautiful White Woman of All Time' and insisting they should be blonde and blue-eyed Northern Europeans. No Mediterraneans, please. I don't consider them white.

Sheila E is very mixed. She’s Mexican from her father’s side and PART black from her mother’s side.

Gugu Mbatha-Raw is biracial, so are Ruth Negga and Thandie Newton.

But white people consider them black. OP is trying to push an agenda for dark-skinned black women. Fine, but why do black male celebrities only date black women who are lighter skinned than they are? The only famous black man I know of who married a darker woman is Obama.

DL's colored, systemic troll. Campbell is mixed race as is the gorgeous Grace Jones. Part Scottish, part alcoholic. What are ya gonna do?

LSA's dark skinned Midwest lezzzzzzzbian. Stay on female first and d listed as well. Get the hell out of here!

Naomi has always been a diva, but she wasn't always a monster. She was lovely, a real beauty.

Most black women are gorgeous.

OP, you must have limited experience with mixed-race people and no understanding of genetics if you think you can identify a person's racial makeup based solely on her looks.

And it's ridiculous that you say it's never been "proven" that Naomi is part Chinese. What does she need, a certificate from the Sinoancestry Validation Committee? Her Sub Saharan roots have never been "proven" either.

All that notwithstanding, I disagree that Naomi doesn't look part Asian.

Thank you R258.

R258 My experience isn't limited at all. I have family members that are more white passing than many mixed race people. I don't care if they look like Wesley Snipes, they're not Black.

It’s a trap. Whatever you say will be wrong.

I don't want to play with OP because he doesn't play fair. The set-up is silly. "of all time"???? Too many of the first 100 weren't all that "deep african" and its a pity. Pretty stars with plastic surgery and skillful makeup.

Oh, speaking of pretty actresses: Teresa Graves

This video sadly shows how many black people (black men in this particular case) devalue the looks of dark-skinned black women. Personally, I blame this on the mass glorification of white beauty standards, which has skewed the perception of attractiveness regarding non-white people.

[quote]But white people consider them black. OP is trying to push an agenda for dark-skinned black women. Fine, but why do black male celebrities only date black women who are lighter skinned than they are? The only famous black man I know of who married a darker woman is Obama.

It's not just black men. Men of all races tend to go for lighter women and vice versa. The stereotypical white American trophy wife is very blonde.

[quote]This video sadly shows how many black people (black men in this particular case) devalue the looks of dark-skinned black women.

Make that black American men. Men in Africa don't have the same hangups. My Kenyan college roommate once told me when we were talking about the hot girls on campus and he was dismissive about some girl every black guy rated highly: "I'm light-skinned myself, why would I want a light-skinned woman"?

R264 there are a lot of white male celebrities with black or mixed wives: De Niro, George Lucas and McBongo probably being the most famous. Maybe dark-skinned women should dump black men and hook up with whites.

[quote]What say you? Halle Berry and other mixed race women aren't allowed. My first vote goes to Naomi Campbell.

Huh? Naomi is actually biracial, she's Afro-Jamaican descent with Chinese-Jamaican ancestry through her paternal grandmother, who carried the family name Ming. To me her eyes do look Asian.

[quote] there are a lot of white male celebrities with black or mixed wives: De Niro, George Lucas and McBongo probably being the most famous.

They are not "a lot" by any definition. White men/black women is the least common of all interracial pairings.

[quote]Maybe dark-skinned women should dump black men and hook up with whites.

Now this is just an asinine levels of idiocy. What a stupid statement. Yes, ask white men to leave their women and marry all the hundreds of millions of dark-skinned girls in the world. Ignore the fact that like most people, they are attracted to their own race over others.

Interesting fact that nobody seems to know. Back in the 17th century, white indentured servants and slaves intermarried. When the indentured servants ended their contracts and got their freedom, they would purchase the freedom of their wife or husband. This was so common that politicians in the slave states freaked out and made it illegal around 1700 - so there are plenty of people out there with white or black blood and don't suspect it.

R287 who said white men should dump their white wives? I'm talking about single people. I know probably a dozen couples where the wife is black or mixed, husband white and all those couples are still together. Seems like couples with black husband/white wife are more fragile. None of the women I know (maybe 20 or so) who married black men are still with them.

[quote]None of the women I know (maybe 20 or so) who married black men are still with them.

Let's go by r269's scientific experience everybody. None of black man/white woman couples stayed together.

FYI, I'm a black man with a white mother. My parents are still together. Do the math.

R270 good for you, I am basing my theories on my entourage of friends and colleagues. I am not providing statistical proof of a sociological investigation...

I'm a dark skinned black man with chinky eyes- yet I have no Asian ancestry. OP is hung up but correct in most aspects. Why do white people refute any racial purity of black men and women? Who cares unless you have some personal agenda? Most white people do when they discuss the attractiveness of "blacks."

There is colorism in all communities but y'all forget how specifically small, ugly and racist the U.S AND Datalounge are. Dark skin men and women are THE most desirable to other black people. It's not just our skin tone, but the features that come with. We are very beautiful. Do the majority of slave oppressed americans prefer lighter skin? I've never heard that. Black IS always Beautiful. Just don't call Halle Berry and Alicia Keys names first. They are modified white girls old enough to have been teased for being biracial. Because they are Americans. Blacks don't tease other blacks for being beautiful. Viola Davis looks more gorgeous every year. Success and a great makeup artist gave her confidence to display how beautiful her dark skin features are.

The only reason why DL is in love with Markle is because she's half black but looks white so they feel like they're not bigoted or ignorant because now they finally like a black woman.

r272. You can't deny that black Americans place a higher premium on lighter skin. Just look at black media. Over the years, if you asked black people who the most black female celebrity is, they've tended to be light-skinned. Lena Horne, Dorothy Dandridge, Vanessa Williams, Halle Berry and now, Beyonce. Diana Ross is the only darker-skinned woman I can think of to have topped black men's 'most beautiful' lists in her day.

Truth is many black American men think like the NBA player who dissed Lupita's looks. She would not be a star if it was up to black American men.

Markle does not self-identify as black, r273. And she's right. I saw a BBC interview where some woman said her look is "the acceptable face of blackness" for people who don't want to appear racist. If she was dark-skinned, there would be a real controversy and possibly a crisis. They would have denied Harry permission to marry her because of her past as a "divorcée"

1970's glamazon Mounia, one of Yves St Laurent muse's was from Martinique. Gorgeous!

Mounia

Does anyone have any pics of Grace Jones on the runway when she was a model in Paris?

R274, that happens in Mexico and Latin America too. The whitest skin, which is equated with more European blood is more desirable than the darker, native skin equated with more indigenous tribes.

Ugh. OP is so stupid. I guess this the same twat whining today in the thread that DL hates black women.

Black Americans themselves are the ones who are obsessed with what percent black or white they are.

This one counts as "black enough," that one doesn't. ...How much is black enough for you, FFS?? Idiot.

We are ALL "mixed" breeds. Get the f--k over yourself.

R281 You're the idiot that hasn't read any other post in this thread

Ola Ray (Thriller video/Playboy Playmate) and Rae Dawn Chong were two beautiful brown ‘80s sexpots

[quote]She was never a raving beauty

Are you insane?

R284 Janet, er, didn't always look like that... lotta plastic surgery there.

Only one !!!! RIP Sylvester

Janet has always been beautiful. The only surgery in that pic is her nose. That smile, those cheekbones and those big doe eyes are what she’s known for.

It is known.

Three way tie between Lauryn Hill, 18 year old Naomi Campbell, and Whitney Houston.

The thread is now closed.

Thanks for playing.

Come on men! All of these Black women are beautiful.! For me it's hard to say which one is the more beautiful because there is so much diversity among us! Viola Davis in a pink Marc Jacobs gown on the red carpet a few years back with natural hair was breath taking....I must admit when I googled Phil Donahue show in the 1980s featuring Super Models...Beverly Johnson was truly amazing...Donahue was hopelessly smitten with her...and the white men in the audience were transfixed...Of course the girl knew how to work it dragging her fingers through that mane of black hair and letting her onyx eyes twinkle...I thought to myself NOW THIS is how Cleopatra probably looked NOT Claudette Colbert or Liz Taylor!!! Now back to beautiful black men!!!

r143, that is a very good picture of her....other pictures are not as breathtaking.

Not the most beautiful of all time, but certainly the prettiest- Janelle Monae:

Don't forget how ridiculously beautiful Rihanna is.

Interesting how all of DL has come together to NOT crown Beyonce the MBBWOAT.

Beyonce is definitely not it.

We can all agree there.

Janet Jackson did/does have beautiful eyes, cheeks and smile but that HORRIBLE nosejob marred her beauty.

I’m surprised no one has mentioned Paris Jackson and her “beautiful eyes” yet.

[quote]Black Americans themselves are the ones who are obsessed with what percent black or white they are.

Exactly. No one else cares. You're still black.

Men of color have a huge inferiority complex when it comes to white men.

They then project this inferiority complex onto the women of color in their race/ethnicity. They feel like they can't compete with white men in the global economy and the only control they have is with the women of their race/ethnicity. So in the desperate hopes to come close to being white men, they go for his seed and try to police women of colors hair, skin etc. The biggest colorists are the men of color, especially black males.

The women then try to emulate this ideal of beauty. If men of color had no issue with darker skin due to their own insecurities of not being able to provide, protect and produce like white men, the women of color would not try to alter their skin at all. In fact, they'd be quite happy with their age defying skin, youthful brown hues that glistens in the sun and the ability to not get wrinkles early on or having to fry in the sun in the hopes of getting some color.

The media also have their own agenda...hope this cleared things up.

Oh and Nikki Perkins is probably the most beautiful somewhat famous black woman.

Nikki is very beautiful but there is a lot of self consciousness about it. She's Kim K duck face trashy.

OP doesn't give a fat shit if the person in question is "mixed" or "pure."

What she cares about is that they be dark dark dark. If a woman was the child of a black father and a white mother, yet was the color of Dwayne Wade's wife, she would be okay with OP.

And I am sick of hearing that white folks are brainwashed to find white and light skinned blacks with softer, more refined features attractive. That would be like saying we are brainwashed to find men more appealing than women.

Biracial women are far more appealing to black men as well. Instead of haranguing whites about preferring them, why don't you go shriek at your own men? Just like you cannot berate and bash a gay men to become straight, you cannot force a person to find something which is distasteful to them beautiful.

I would never have said any of this, but OP, you have proven yourself to be a racist shrew and I have had enough of your crap. You seriously must be the most insecure person on the planet. As many have said, go back to LSA where dark is beautiful.

Jessica Lucas

[quote]Men of color have a huge inferiority complex when it comes to white men.

WTF kind of bullshit statement is this? You need to go back to the drawing board with that crap. Where’d you get your statistics, from your butthole?

Jessica Lucas is biracial not black.

[QUOTE] with chinky eyes

Oh DEAR

Again r297, make that black American men. See r274 for the way an ex-NBA player talks about Lupita's looks. Self-hatred is so rampant in black Americans.

Yep I am a black man with chinky eyes. It's not an uncommon term in our community. I would like to post some of my pics here because I am FINE but I know this site is too crazy for that. I am pure african ancestry, born in Trinidad. Some of us have small almond shaped eyes in dark skin with high cheekbones, strow jawed full lipped sexiness. I'm muscled up and cut fine too. Don't tell me about light skin being preferred. It's not true, only in some parts of America. The rest of the world has its own preferences and biases.

Tyson Beckford is dark with chinky eyes too.

R306 I agree with you 100%. I believe that the double standard is precisely what vexes the hell out of women like OP.

Dark men are gorgeous and far, far more attractive than light skins such as Steph Curry or Shemar Moore.

Unfortunately it does not work that way with the women.

The gentleman from Moonlight who you pictured is one of the most beautiful men I have ever seen,

R308 Kill yourself

What's interesting is, at the core of this discussion is America's tendency to reward those who lose the face of Africa. Just as America has a history of rewarding certain ethnic groups if they lose their language of ethnicity, so it does with the face of Africa. Many of our Hollywood Icons are /were Jewish and Latino...through name changes and behavior they were accepted and rewarded. I always thought it was so amazing when people would say," But they look Jewish" It sure didn't hurt Paul Newman, Lauren Becall or Joan Crawford and certainly didn't hold back Cary Grant or Tony Curtis.

My Mother's family specifically chose to lose the face of Africa...not with creams, ointments or salves, but through a more sinister practice of marrying other families with the same tendency to lose that face. This was Antebellum Virginia a tough state...in the confederacy....

I remember years ago Charlie Rose (dare I mention him) interviewing Tony Morrison...the subject of assimilation came up and she emphatically said " I don't want to have to bleach myself to belong" Some black families in 19th century south did just that, NOT necessarily because they thought European was more beautiful, but more the rewards were made more readily available...and obstructions were lessened.

It's an interesting subject...but there's no denying that the face of Africa and African beauty has been disregarded. As I said in my first post to declare certain characteristics or color more beautiful is not holding up into day's media when all sorts of beauty are gaining some recognition. Lupita, Lena. V iola, Helen Williams and Jennifer Beals are beautiful in their own and should be celebrated as such and not paced against one another....the diversity and the TRUE Melting Pot is extraordinary....only in America can this be celebrated because of our historic obsession with race and color. Of course in all these cases...it is money that affords them access to make up artists and a casual life that usually enables beauty to surface instead of stress...

Finally someone who is making sense.

Are you perchance lost?

Folk/blues singer Valerie June. I've met her a couple of times and she is one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen in person. No photos do her justice, but this is a good one.

r306, I had a truly stunning black female friend from Trinidad who had the epicanthal fold and razor sharp cheekbones because she had Chinese in her ethnicity. She told me that there were quite a few Chinese there, so if you took a DNA test, I wouldn't be surprised that you had a bit of Chinese in your DNA too. Hell, you might be related to her.

R313 You're delusional

R312 She's hideous and it's done. We already got our answer in this thread. Fuck off

Hideous? What in the everloving fuck are you smoking?

Okay, the most beautiful black woman of all time is Viola Davis.

Are ya happy now??

No love for Lola Falana?

R316 I dimint think it's Viola Davis but she's certainly not hideous

R37...thank you for this memory...I watched that pageant with my mother and sister and all night we were like, oh, Miss Trinidad and Tobago is the most beautiful contestant in this whole pageant, she must win! She is why, along with my mother's impromptu geography lesson that night, that I learned about T and T at my young age.

R319 Perhaps you missed the post I was responding to in which OP described a beautiful light skin woman as hideous.

I was answering in kind.

Lauryn Hill is the answer.

r314 I'm delusional? Do you even know your own history?

Lena Horne got whiter and whiter and younger and younger thanks to a surgeon's scalpel. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

R135, you must be dreaming or mistaking someone else for her.

Well there is something wrong with it R323. Because that whittled down nose ain't fooling anyone and it's completely wrong for her face. Most any face really but especially a black woman. Skin looks a little light bright too. Look at Janet Jackson and you see a cute sexy girl who RUINED her looks with a ridiculous nose that cannot be made to look normal ever again. You go too small and you'll regret it. Nose jobs are the facial surgery that most change the overall perception of a face. There is a mathematical formula to it all in terms of projection and bridge height and nostril width that needs to be modified in African features. Halle Berry's overpraised beauty is also due to a nose job, slightly more successful. She's just a cute woman, far from beautiful. Her lips are thin, her face is too small and her eyes are unremarkable. Put her in long hair and she disappears. Nice body and to some she has a nice skin tone. There's no sheen to her look -she's very dingey.

Petite features are not often a hallmark of beautiful women, black or white. Pretty is different than beautiful.

R324, I agree.

I meant Lena's nose jobs (yes, plural) made her "whiter." Her olive skin was naturally quite light - she wore dark make-up for years after she said she was "forced" to at MGM. In her career defining Broadway show, The Lady & Her Music, Lena wore very dark make-up and forged a black accent and attitude she didn't use in real life. She represented this persona as the real one she had never shown before, when in reality, it was completely fake.

R325 Good lord she sweats harder than Whitney and that's the thinnest nose I've seen on any human being Black or White. Michael Jackson eat your heart out

{R311] I hope you mean my posting 310...I do try to be thoughtful, I try to promote thoughtfulness. We shouldn't be too hard on ourselves...I was totally into white men when I was younger and now , while have nothing against white men...my brethren is the one and only for me now...I think it can be difficult to love oneself when America has idea of what beauty is...just be patient with others and ourselves...is my advise....

I also think that fiir skin male models are more the-boy-next door types., very handsome...but the very dark male models tend to be more Haute Couture types....their skin tends to be smooth and flawless...some are graced with wonderful what I call $400. per hour cheek bones and wonderful lips and eyes. . I'm light brown and know how difficult it can be to maintain a clear skin without blemishes...actually I enjoy all male beauty!!!

Lauryn Hill is hard to beat when it comes to being beautiful.

She looks like Michonne from the walking dead r328

Has anyone nominated the lovely Emmy winning actress Leslie Jones yet?

R330 NO! She's so beautiful our eyes would melt!

The late model, Naomi Sims.

Viola Davis is beautiful today, this day. Black women are going to change our world.

Marilyn MaCoo beautiful and a lovely singer too

In terms of floating eyeballs black women, no doubt Lupita Nabongo.

kerry washington and those lips of hers make me MENTAL.

she can barely speak with those things. SO obvious and annoying. srsly.

Why don't you just say Rachel Dolezal?

Iman looks stereotypically Somali - a lot of women there look like that.

Philomena Kwao

I googled black models and this model from the1960's - Helen Williams popped up. I've never heard of her before but man oh man, she was a gorgeous lady!

Vanity or Jayne Kennedy. Both had exquisite faces, and all of you bitches know it.

She was, R340. But when you remove the drawn on eyebrows and false eyelashes. and take off the wig, what have you got?

Haus of Dolezal

r342 - [quote]But when you remove the drawn on eyebrows and false eyelashes. and take off the wig, what have you got?

You've got EVERY single woman listed on this thread (AND all other DL threads relating to female beauty!)

Veronica Webb

Exquisite - Grace

Jayne Kennedy is the most beautiful without doubt.

She had the most beautiful natural soft body too. There was not one single flaw on the woman.

I'm sorry though, Alek Wek is not attractive in any way. She became big because she was an oddity and was perfect for high fashion runway work. And this opinion is not due to media brainwashing that European standards are preferable. She is so dark you cannot even see the features on her face. I think that she is the other side of a coin which has an albino on the obverse. Neither is beautiful, but either can be interesting.

Jayne was gorgeous, r347.

What also made her so attractive was that it was all her. No fake hair, body part. No over done makeup.

Jayne really let herself go in her later years. We all age, and I understand, but she could have maintained it for a long time.

Black and biracial women can. Just look at Halle Berry.

I’m not trying to brag, I swear. But I’ve kept it going. I hit the gym daily. I’m in good shape, and have long, real hair. Everyone thinks I’m much younger than my true age. I know that 90% of it is genetic. I scored and won the lottery on that one. However, I eat meticulously, and make sure I keep it tight! Haha!

But you know what? I’ve always liked working out and eating right, so to me, it’s not a huge sacrifice.

But god, Jayne was beautiful.

Yolanda Adams is a very pretty woman, tall with long legs.

I don't know why she never got the same accolades as Chaka, but she can absolutely roar. Enormous voice.

Too bad she's stuck in backwards Gospel circles.

"Black" is not a 'color'; it is merely an error in semantics -