Love, Simon

Is this film based on YA novel [italic]Simon vs. the Homo Sapiens Agenda[/italic]?

R1 that's the working title on IMDB, so quite possible.

But the most important question for DL, does Simon get to kiss Colto in the movie?

BUT WHERE ARE THE TRANS WOMEN OF COLOR?!?!?!?!

You paid to see The Greatest Showman?!

I will boycott if they have anything trans-related at all, R3.

I'll be the baby dyke who gives him courage to come out 'n proud!

Nick Robinson has been avoiding publicity like a plague. It’s kinda sad, especially since he was one of my most promising candidates.

I am excited that this was DL fav Joey Pollari’s first job in years.

looks good - and I HATE teenage movies

R7 LOL I didn't even realize that was him.

I may need to visit the Waffle House now.

I like the spoof of straights having to come out.....

Josh Duhamel plays his dad. Maybe there will be a scene where they shower together. Is Colton the only out gay person in the movie?

Id shower with Josh Duhmel.....hes still fine as fuck.

It's unfortunate that Simon's hairline is already receding in high school.

Nick needs to do full frontal.

Looking forward to this...

How's the novel?

R15 , I listened to the audiobook and everything about it is "adorable", "cute", super educational. Basically It's a young adult book written by a woman for teenage girls. It's not how horny gay teenagers behave, and it's almost 180 degrees from the unapologetic raw sexuality of CMBYN. It's good for what it is, I guess. BTW, one thing that I found hilarious was at the end of the book as the protagonist drives to meet his mysterious love interest (they email each other anonymously throughout the book), he puts Sufjan Stevens in his Ipod, apparently that's the new gold standard for any gay romance...

New trailer.

Tony Randall was great in this, Swoozy not so much, OK she sucked the meat.

I saw the trailer for this when I went to see CMBYN and I thought it looked cute. A feel good movie for teenager girls and their closeted gay BFFs.

R7 Maybe he avoids publicity due to his lazy eye?

I wanna see it and i'm fucking 45 yrs old!

[quote]Is Colton the only out gay person in the movie?

Keiynan Lonsdale is out as bi.

Surely Miles won’t be far behind.

R16: At least it's about teens with other teens.

[bold]Cute Coming-Out Tale Gives Gay Teens Their John Hughes Moment[/bold]

Review for TheWrap by Alonso Duralde.

[quote]I didn’t know how badly I needed to see two gay teens have a John Hughes happy ending until “Love, Simon” showed me what one looks like.

[quote]And while this adaptation of Becky Albertali’s YA novel is safe as milk compared to the LGBTQ stories that indie and foreign filmmakers have been telling for the last few decades, it’s still a big deal that this boy-meets-boy romance was produced by Fox 2000 and is being released by 20th Century Fox into thousands of theaters nationwide. It’s an even bigger deal that a mainstream movie this groundbreaking also manages to be sweet and charming, and not merely a good-for-you exercise in tolerance and understanding.

[quote]Queer pundits will no doubt take “Love, Simon” to task for being too white, too cisgender, too heteronormative. And they won’t be wrong. But even if this is “Call Me By Your Name” through the lens of the Disney Channel, there’s a place in the culture for adolescent gay kids to enjoy the shiny, shallow, pop-song-infused coming-of-age stories that their straight peers consume on a daily basis. The first one out of the gate always plays it safe; the trick now is to keep the gate open.

[quote]I still remember trying to host gay movie nights back in the early 1990s, and how difficult it was to find films that weren’t depressing and tragic; say what you will about “Love, Simon,” it’s upbeat and life-affirming and exactly the kind of movie I would have watched over and over again (on the sly) as a closeted teenager.

Full review at the link. I cringed at the trailer but will watch it when it comes out on streaming.

I saw the trailer and the story looks good I just cant stand him. If it was anyone else id happily go see the movie.

[bold]‘Love, Simon’ Is the Gay Coming-of-Age Movie We’ve Been Waiting For[/bold]

Kevin Fallon's review for the Daily Beast.

[quote]‘Love, Simon’ is a gay coming-of-age story so sweeping and emotional—and with such mass appeal—that we almost can’t believe it exists. (But are so happy it does.)

[quote]What Love, Simon does is extraordinary.

[quote]It’s a coming-of-age film in the classic sense, and will likely become a classic in its own right, based on the wondrous execution of its rarely-touched subject matter: a story that lends the humor, dignity, angst, and uber-heightened drama of the very best, most relatable high school dramedies to the experience of a gay teen. Think the charm of Ferris Bueller, the identity crisis of Cady Herron, the from-afar crush of Samantha Baker, and the big-swing grand gestures of a The Fault in Our Stars or Say Anything. Again, but gay!

After a year that gave us Call Me By Your Name, 120 Beats Per Minute, God's Own Country, and The Wound this seems like a letdown...

R28 I actually think this is more exciting? There have been numerous art house gay films, but there's never been a wide release gay teen dramedy/coming out movie.

Exactly

r28 None of those had mass appeal, though. We're still waiting for a gay movie that will manage to achieve that.

Of course, that doesn't mean gay movies should necessarily be made *primarily* with mass appeal in mind, but that will nonetheless be an important milestone when it happens.

This reviewer acknowledges that it is bland, generic movie, but agrees with those other posters who feel that it is important because it is mainstream.

[quote]And while this adaptation of Becky Albertali’s YA novel is safe as milk compared to the LGBTQ stories that indie and foreign filmmakers have been telling for the last few decades, it’s still a big deal that this boy-meets-boy romance was produced by Fox 2000 and is being released by 20th Century Fox into thousands of theaters nationwide. The first one out of the gate always plays it safe; the trick now is to keep the gate open.

I admit my reaction to the trailer was to think of unremarkable it seemed, the coming out gay teen film (Hi "Shelter", "Get Real", "Beautiful Thing" to list some famous ones), but I guess we are supposed to be impressed that this is mainstream and in theory people who aren't gay will see it. I don't know, I can't get excited about it.

[quote]Nick Robinson has been avoiding publicity like a plague. It’s kinda sad,

Is that true? Fuck this film.

The gays owe nothing to this film.

Nick needs to show peen.

r32 Funny you should mention Beautiful Thing. That reviewer's husband, Dave White, brought up this movie on a podcast I listened to just last week. He recalled the big impact it had on him when he saw it in the theatres for the first time. So I watched the YouTube clip of that scene in the forest he mentioned and it is indeed glorious to behold. However, the acting in the scene that follows is really not that great. Hopefully, the lead actor in this movie has done a better job with the more emotional scenes.

And this is definitely just the first step. We'll get mainstream movies with gay teens eating ass left and right in no time, you'll see.

Variety's take [quote]A studio-made romantic comedy for teens with a closeted gay protagonist marks an important first, even if the movie is pretty much average in all other respects.

[quote]“Love, Simon” is so accessible that gay teens don’t even appear to be its target audience; rather, the movie seems more ideally suited to young women — essentially the U.S. equivalent of the avid female readership that sustains Japan’s massive yaoi comic-book market. If this pioneering film is a success (a big “if,” since the young men who need it most might be too self-conscious to see it in theaters), expect more female-friendly gay-male love stories marketed at teens — the ultimate upside of which will be a chance to show those struggling with oppression, suicidal thoughts, and the other trappings of the closet that they are not alone, and need not feel ashamed.

R33 Here's Nick at a recent screening.

He's also promoting the film on his Instagram page.

I wonder who hurt this commenter under Variety's review.

[quote]Romantic comedy? Hard pass.

[quote]“Love, Simon” is so accessible that gay teens don’t even appear to be its target audience; rather, the movie seems more ideally suited to young women — essentially the U.S. equivalent of the avid female readership that sustains Japan’s massive yaoi comic-book market.

Of course it is. They're the target market here, not gays.

So exactly the same as with CMBYN, then. SPC didn't bother marketing that one to gays either. But whatever, if the fraus bring in the cash, who are we to complain?

r37 Is that just an unfortunate colour of pants on Berlanti there or did he allow himself to get FAT?!

Grow up r40. Don’t be so butthurt over every little thing dude.

r41 Who said anything about being butthurt? I have no dog in this hunt; I simply relayed what I had read in an article recently on the subject of CMBYN's distribution recently.

Perhaps you ought to try growing up yourself? Polite communication is a wonderful thing, you know. I'm sure you'll get there one day. Until then, you're blocked.

Edit: oh, wow, the Instaho troll of DL himself told me I should grow up.

Life is just an unending stream of ironies, isn't?

*isn't it

I saw CMBYM in DC and Durham. The audience was definitely a ton of adult gay men. Not sure what you meant about the distribution not going for gay men.

The press for the film was definitely not geared towards gay men...

I thought Call Me By Your Name was a Nicholas Sparks movie.

Except Nicholas Sparks doesn't do gay material. Ever.

You think fraus would be interested in an arty gay film like Call Me By Your Name? That's hilarious. This teen movie does look like it's targeted to girls, though.

Grace Randolph gushes over it. Calls it a perfect movie.

Says the girls at her press screening were squealing their heads off at the ending, but some of those people are usually paid to influence the film critics. Actual reactions will probably be more toned down.

I have two friends who got to see a test screening of it a couple week ago and they both loved it. They are both gay men in their 40s.

I actually saw a promo for this on last night on national TV. We've come so far guys.

[quote]You think fraus would be interested in an arty gay film like Call Me By Your Name?

They certainly seem interested in threads about an arty gay film like Call Me By Your Name. Obsessed, even.

Looks boring and unoriginal.

I’m looking forward to seeing Keiynan Lonsdale in it.

I'm actually very heartened by how heavily Fox is promoting the film. Whatever you think about the movie, it's nice to see an LGBT film finally getting mainstream promotion and distribution. I wish Sony Classics had done this with Call Me....but that's a different story.

[quote]an LGBT film

Or is it a gay film?

Who is the guy on the right in r57. I know I've seen his picture here a few times but I can't remember his name

I mean, on the left

Colton Haynes is on the right, I mean the left.

[quote]I wish Sony Classics had done this with Call Me....but that's a different story.

Call Me By Your Name was an arthouse film. That non-rushed directing and sensual atmosphere type filmmaking about a bunch of academics in Europe was never going to be some mainstream success. It did well in urban areas, and when it tried to expand more broadly it didn't do so hot.

They look thrilled to be there .

Nick Robinson looks so straight. At a fashion event, wearing an jacket that is wrinked and doesn't even look tailored to you.

Yes, but Nick could still like his hot cunt to be fucked by hard cocks. I bet that wonky eye does some serious squinting when he gets breeded.

Stop reinforcing tired stereotypes.

Nick seemed straight in Being Charlie.

R57 What the hell is that sweater on Colto? Looks like an itchy nightmare.

There was a test screening in my area a couple weeks ago and it seemed like they didn't get enough people to go based on the emails the day of begging me to go, but I couldn't make it that night.

There is another test screening next week, I might catch that one.

Ugh!!

[quote]Grace Randolph gushes over it. Calls it a perfect movie.

Why do you keep trying to make us care what this person thinks?

Colton's sweater really accentuates his breasts.

Quite big tits.

I know Colton Haynes is popular on DL but I don't think I've ever seen him in anything. Then the other day I saw him on Match Game with Alec Baldwin. He did share an anecdote during the show about the girl he lost his virginity to. It was almost like he was still closeted.

Yeah I assume it is always the same poster who posts Grace's reviews here. I have never cared what Grace Randolph thinks. I think she has terrible taste and is bad at vlogging.

Grace Randolph?

Another lgbt+ young adult movie in theaters now is "Every Day."

Ptetty sure grace has down syndrome.

Why all the references to Colton? He isn’t in this movie.

Agreed that Nick’s suit was bad in his pic with Colto. I love his average guy bod though. He’s slim, but you can tell he’s 100% not a gym queen. Very unpretentious and attractive.

Well someone posted a pic of Nick and Colton r79, and Colton Haynes does appear in this film.

R81, I saw a screening and I don’t remember seeing Colton in the film. He’s not listed on IMDB.

Hmm, maybe his scene didn't make the final cut. He was announced as being Kevin, a college guy who flirts with Simon, Peter from the book.

In the bar scene, I guess...

The Grindr scene from Love, Simon.

Nick says in this interview that his younger brother came out to him while he was filming Love, Simon.

"For Robinson, the movie’s subject matter became a lot more personal at one point — his little brother came out to him during filming.

“In the story, I was trying to do justice to that. If anything, [his brother coming out] was kind of exciting,” he said. “For me anyway, I had a feeling for many years about it — I was just very proud of him for taking that step. It just made it closer to home for me telling the story. It felt like we were making something that could potentially help people, which is a good feeling.”"

It's about time !!

Is Streisand involved?

Sneak preview Saturday evening at a theater near you...!

Nice

Robinson looks he could be Ellen Page’s brother.

The movie Is getting a lot more hype than I thought it would. What is the first weekend box office projected to be?

Does anyone else find Nick Robinson handsome but not sexy?

I find him cute, but not handsome.

How was the screening tonight?

So Robinson isn't a gay?

It was a sweet little teen movie. The Jake Gyllenhaal Memorial Tire Iron was nowhere to be found.

[quote]it's nice to see an LGB[bold]T[/bold] film finally getting mainstream promotion and distribution

This is a Transgender film ? I thought it was a gay film. : (

It was a gay movie. No L. No B. No T. Nothing against those entities, this just wasn't their film.

100.

Cal is B. Or at least he was in the book.

He is U (Unspecified) in the movie.

Honestly, R96, all evidence points to him not being gay. He’s occasionally had random girls on his IG stories, and just made a big deal about how his little brother came out to him while filming this movie.

Of course if he IS gay, it would be the ideal fulfillment of the message of the film-that coming out should be done on one’s own terms. And I still follow him on social media, because I still have hope...and he’s still an attractive twink with no public relationships.

Opens tonight at seven

I'm going to see it tonight.

Has nobody else seen it yet??

It finished in the top five, but it doesn't seem to be doing as well as it should be doing. We should all be supporting the first ever major studio gay romance movie.

There has been discussion here r105

Why is a discussion of the MOVIE happening in a thread about the TRAILER, and not this thread, which is about the MOVIE?

(just shaking my head)

Actually, the original comment on both threads is about the trailer.

Saw it last weekend. I liked it. It's cute but it's not a light and frothy comedy. It shows that in spite of all the progress and advances around acceptance of the gay community, coming out is still isn't easy.