Would you vote for Oprah if she ran for President?

Having a president who can, you know, govern would be nice.

Probably.

She seems nice

YES YES YES

NO she is a well meaning idiot at best. Her egregious spawn (dr Phil, Dr Oz) are evidence of her cluelessness

I voted Barack twice and HRC. I require intellect.

No.

Well, unlike Trump, she's run an actual billion-dollar industry. And no bankruptcies.

It certainly would mean giving up her lifestyle. And being President isn't just inspirational speeches. How would she handle leading the country in to war, for example. I don't think Kim Jong Un will have much time for 'chicken soup for the soul" nonsense. And the looming cyber-terrorism in coming years. The list goes on and on ....

Absolutely NOT. Can we please stop these fucking insane Oprah For President threads. Thank You.

I would definitely vote for her

Yes, unlike Trump she could actually get some good people to surround her. If Reagan could do it, so could O.

FOURTH Oprah thread in 12 hours all posted by the same person campaigning for Oprah before she's even announced her run. Get a life.

But even Reagan had been a governor before running for President.

As for Winfry's success, I don't believe OWN is all that successful.

It the choice is Oprah vs. Moron Trump and his jack ass family, I'm going with Oprah all the way.

If the choice is Oprah vs. anybody else, I reserve the right to change my mind.

She knew.

Weinstein would approve!

I don’t know, I don’t think so. I worry about the US becoming Paris. I worry about gay people. I need a Democrat who will promise me gay people will be protected from religion. If Oprah says that, I’m in. If not, no.

Hell yes I'd vote for her. Her base/following is huge and she could motivate/enthuse the minority vote also. She has the potential coalition to have a large turnout and help elect down ballot democrats too. The only question is does she really want it and is the United States okay with another celebrity candidate? Remains to be seen.

[quote] I worry about the US becoming Paris.

What does that mean? Is Paris no longer gay friendly?

Unlike Trump, Oprah knows and is respected not only by world leaders, but the public in general. Do you think the majority of politicians KNOW anything outside of their own political bubbles ? Its all about the people you surround yourself with, who are experts in their fields. Oprah would have people with actual credentials fighting for positions in her administration....and as evidenced by her career and humanitarian work, she knows how to delegate authority.

I'd vote for if she was the nominee, but I'd much prefer someone with political experience.

Would all the people who couldn't bear the thought of Hillary being President really vote for Oprah?

FUCK NO!!!!

This idiocy must stop. These people are not fucking qualified for the position.

The Presidency is NOT a figurehead position. This moron currently there is proof of that. You actually have to know shit and keep up with anything new that comes along.

Fuck Oprah and her sheeple.

See, R19 is the problem. Just completely unaware and that is so dangerous. But, that’s what politicians like.

No. Let her run for the House or Senate or school board first. Even Reagan had legislative experience before running for President. She used her platform to foist insipid quacks like Oz and Dr Phil onto America, she grabbed onto every new agey-religious bullshit fad that came along and her ego is bigger than trump's. And as for the "she'd be better than what we have now!" crowd....yeah, so would my dog. That isn't the point. We need a serious candidate with foreign policy and legislative experience in 2020 because the new President will have a fascist mess to clean up. Just because the Deplorables treat running America like a D-list reality show doesn't mean we need to.

Would Gayle be first lady? what would become of stedman?

Governing a country as complex as the US requires a team, not a single superhero. The president needs to be a good team leader. He/she doesn't not have to be able to run a country as an individual.

R25 agree

She spawned more hacks than any famous person I can remember

[quote]No. Let her run for the House or Senate or school board first. Even Reagan had legislative experience before running for President. She used her platform to foist insipid quacks like Oz and Dr Phil onto America, she grabbed onto every new agey-religious bullshit fad that came along and her ego is bigger than trump's. And as for the "she'd be better than what we have now!" crowd....yeah, so would my dog. That isn't the point. We need a serious candidate with foreign policy and legislative experience in 2020 because the new President will have a fascist mess to clean up. Just because the Deplorables treat running America like a D-list reality show doesn't mean we need to..

THIS.

No. Her pussy stinks.

Would Gayle be the first lady?

HELL NO

I'll vote for her AFTER she runs for another elective office like Senator or Mayor. I'm not voting for anyone who is running for President as their first political office.

I'd rather have a very highly qualified legislator, but if she's the nominee opposing Trump or Pence, definitely yes.

I think Oprah would be AMAZING when it comes to domestic issues and policy, but I can't see her being comfortable when it comes to military and foreign policy decisions... she's dedicated her life to inspiring and helping people, so I don't think she'd be comfortable in a role that would entail decisions that might cost lives because of actions she's signed off on/supported.

And I agree that she should start out as a senator or governor first. Or if she were to become mayor of Chicago and help turn things around there she would certainly gain experience and prove her merit.

I think she has sufficient.

I would vote for her if the choice was her or Trump. Fuck yeah. However, I am not sure she would be the best CIC, but again, better than Trump.

Not in the Democratic primaries. But I would vote for her over any Repub in the general, of course.

^ I agree R35. She is not ready or prepared to take on the role of the presidency. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Hopefully we will not be forced to choose between her and Trump next election. Neither are qualified.

Inspirational speeches do not a leader make. Just look north to Justin Trudeau, means well but....

I’d vote for Harambe’s dug up decaying remains over Trump.

I think she'd be better than Trumpzilla - but that's not saying much.

If she was the only option against Trump in the general sure. I wouldn't vote for her in the primary. No to celebrities with no governing experience, no to billiionaires running the country. Fuck that.

The great thing about Oprah is that she listens. She has just enough humility to be educated and inspired by other people. She would surround herself with intellect, creativity and experience. People trust her and believe she would only seek office to protect and support people. Trump has made it glaringly obvious that there are no actual qualifications needed to be elected President. It's all about what you do when you get there.

Even the crazy trailer park women who voted for Trump like Oprah. She really has stunningly broad-based appeal. Oprah is only disliked by Dataloungers and the alt-right.

Would she promise us all a car?

People whinging about celebrities running for office need to wake up and accept reality. I agree its absolutely ridiculous, but this is the world we are living in now, where people despise anyone perceived to be a part of the political class. As vulnerable as Trump should be in 2020, I worry he will be able to run right over any of the rumored Democratic candidates with all his bullshit outsider, swamp-draining rhetoric.

I was thinking the same thing r46. And I'm not sure it has all that much to do with hatred of the existing political class. The door has been opened. We should have seen this coming.

If it were Oprah vs Trump, I’d vote for Oprah.

But I think we need a statesman or woman, not an entertainer.

Oprah's eating this attention up and doing nothing to assuage the chatter, even though she has no intention of running for President.

Just think of all the dumb ass celebrities who’d line up to run after Oprah won. It would never end.

Would be nice to see her in politics. Not sure about the Oval Office. But I’m not saying no outright. There something there. She’s has executive experience. And she has been successful, unlike the insolvent current pres.

Does O use Twitter? That’s proven to be the only job requirement.

R45 Are you one who remembers what happened to many of those who got the "free" car? The Big Disappointment.

They had to come up with the delivery fees and sales tax on the car, which some of the "winners" couldn't do. The delivery fees and sales tax on those cars all combined at that time was between $6,000 - $8,000 and some of them (like my cousin) had to forfeit the "free" car because they didn't have the money. The only people who knew the truth about that were the ones who won and couldn't come up with the money. They posted their complaints and reviews online about that, which have since been removed. But my cousin wasn't the only one who was sadly disappointed. We never watched her show after that.

If she ran against Trump or Bannon or one of those demons, then yes, of course.

Otherwise, this hubbub is fucking stupid. Winfrey would not want to give up the work she loves or her profitable businesses to be a bureaucrat. She is already a public servant while also being allowed to be a self-servant. Everything Trump does wrong she has done right.

She shouldn't run unless she wants the gay rumors and her promiscuous younger life to go into overdrive. However, she hasn't made a secret of the latter, so there's that. The former though...

Regardless, if I like what she has to say, I would vote for her.

[Quote]The great thing about Oprah is that she listens. She has just enough humility to be educated and inspired by other people. She would surround herself with intellect, creativity and experience. People trust her and believe she would only seek office to protect and support people.

These are good points too.

I still think she should get her feet wet first, for her own sake really. She's been somewhat-retired the past few years and getting to spend a lot of time in Hawaii. Going from that to the presidency is too much of a 180.

And then why not Ellen? Hmmmmm? Rich talk show host too you know. Speaks with clarity too you know.

[Quote]She is already a public servant

Also true, plus when it comes to helping people she has more freedom and leeway as a private citizen.

She has White House experience; she was in The Help wasn't she?

R56 - you mean like Hillary Clinton after she left the State Department?

I think this all a ploy to get the twitler in Chief to say something racist against her. You know he really wants to.

R60 ?? No, not like that because Hillary had a ton of government experience, whereas with Oprah it would be going from semi-retirement to a new ballgame (although she does have a lot of the skills necessary from her previous work).

Today on CBS This Morning, they ended a segment with the teaser "is Oprah going to run for president?", then faded to commercial--a Weight Watchers ad of Oprah welcoming strangerfraus into her kitchen, throwing her hands up and booming "Welcome to my FREESTYLE TACO FIESTAAAAAA!!! Who wants a taco?"

More than just an ad, it's a dog-whistle to chubby fraus, Latinos, and the gay community. Subliminally, she is saying "You will EAT my shit and you will LOVE it!"

I’m 44 and so was just becoming politically aware when the first celebrity president, Reagan, was elected. That we’re now selecting politicians from popular culture, like TV and movies, instead of real politicians with backgrounds in law and experience in governing, is a sign of cultural decline and disease. Trump is the reductio ad absurdum result of this tendency, a result of poor public education and profound insularity.

Never forget that Republicans were the first to exploit the office of the president this way. They are a scourge and embarrassment in their present state.

So I’m disgusted by the thought of celebrities running for any office, especially the presidency, but I would still vote for Oprah, because you take what you can get.

No. Absolutely not.

If Trump has proven anything, it's that we need a leader with experience in leading, and politics, and thought. Not a talk show host with experience in weight lose and living in the closet.

It's just a damn shame Joan Crawford isn't with us. At least she had experience running a multi-national company.

No.

She’s good at what she does. Doesn’t mean she’d be a good president.

Oprah is terribly gullible and probably just as vulnerable to ego-stroking manipulation as our current idiot.

I’d vote for Barack again in a heartbeat.

For all those screeching she doesnt have experience......she has more experience than 95% of people who run...politicians or not. Anyone can run for president....ANYONE. Political experience is not a precursor. Education and actual intelligence are. Oprah has demonstrated she has the ability and the knowledge to surround herself with people who excel in their respective fields. World leaders respect her. When Oprah speaks, people listen. She runs billion dollar businesses that employ thousands of people....who can actually make a living. Shes not a con and pathological liar like Trump.

She is smart, she knows how to read, she does 't live on compliments...she is intelligent but she does have a big head. She has worked no government jobs. So probably not. But she would be better than Trump, a three year old child would be better than Trump.

You’re setting the bar rather low, R68. She’s not a con and pathological liar!

My understanding is that she is not, in fact, well known outside of the US. There have been discussions here about that before here, like people in Britain having never heard of her.

The idea of the president being a cipher supported by his advisors is NOT the ideal. Obama was a statesman, Clinton was as well...in fact, every other Repug candidate nominee last cycle was, too. You would not want your doctor being a really smart, nice, but untrained person being advised by specialists. Do you think that being president is easier than being a doctor, or a mechanic? It actually is a skill that requires experience and training, not a popularity contest.

Oprah Winfrey/Doug Jones 2020.

R71 writes,

[Quote]Oprah Winfrey/Doug Jones 2020.

From the same empty mindset who thought Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine were good.

I would vote for her in a second.

Another asshole I am so fucking sick of.

Gorilla channel in the white house not real gorilla

No. I would not vote for any celebrities. I still can't believe Donald Trump was elected President.

No. If she ran as a Democrat then it is inevitable that any 'creative accounting' arrangements would come to light given that she is a billionaire. She probably doesn't know how some of her money is moved around for tax-minimising purposes. But, she would get the blame for it.

Unpopular opinion but this started with Obama. He only had two years experience as a Senator before he ran for President. No candidate has come in with as little political experience except for generals that had just won major wars like W.W. 2. If Obama had just waited his turn and run as Hillary's VP in 2008 we wouldn't have Trump and possible President Oprah today.

Hillary would have had her two terms and Obama would be President right now (and a better one because of more experience.) Oh well, it is what it is.

R5 thanks

She's a very rich person. Which is all that matters these days to qualify for POTUS.

Next election will be: Oprah / Zuckerburg vs. Thiel / Koch.

NOPE. I want Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. She is not qualified. She believes in that stupid book the secret and all the prosperity gospel BS. On top of that she backed, after they had credible Violence allegations: Bill Crosby, Scientology, Harvey Weinstein and Charlie Rose.

She is almost as famous for her Non Disclosure Agreements as Harvey was. One of the reasons she's had mostly good press is that no one who works for her -- or ever worked for her -- can say or write a word. One ex-employee tried to write a book about her experiences at Harpo and was immediately shutdown.

Oprah does not do stairs. Does the WH have elevators?

Bill O'Reilly is bullish on the idea.

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Many years ago I was working on a project with Steadman and he hit on me. No question about it. I asked one of his staffers later (a friend, the one who got me into the meeting) and he said, yeah, it happens.

The friend later told me that Steadman was once sued for sexual harassment and was about to come out of the closet to avoid settling the suit -- Oprah stepped in and paid the suer a shit ton of money to shut up.

The point is, Oprah can't run without her either coming out of the closet, or being outed. And same with Steadman.

Is there any other country on earth where candidates for head of state are chosen from celebs with zero experience in politics??!

USA has truly become a joke. Probably no hope for return to pre-Trump times. Just a long downslide now...

I'll vote for any Democrat and I mean any! Including Bernie and Hillary showed either run again.

If Piers Morgan supports an idea, you know it's demonic.

Looks like, R87, considering all the idiots on this thread who claim they'd vote for her.

What I don't get is if she is in fact a big ol lezzie why would she be in the closet. She's talked about so many personal things, drug addition, weight issues, rape, family, etc; wouldn't into eating at the lagoon of mysteries.

We'd be better off if Mike Judge and Etan Coehn, his co-screenwriter for Idiocracy, were on the ticket.

At least they were prescient in their depiction of our political future.

I would be nice to have a proper first lady back in the White House again.

God, twitter is full of tards. And oprah and humility? "Oprah does not walk, Oprah does not do stairs". Lawl, sure jan.

No, I wouldn't vote for her. These super rich people don't want to make the fundamental changes that are needed to reduce the wealth gap.

They aren't going to be "traitors" to their fellow 1 percenters like FDR.

Vote for the Democratic candidate, whoever that may be. Even Oprah. Never vote for a Republican, nor for a third party candidate. Ever. If the electoral college is eliminated, or restructured, then this rule might change. But that would require a constitutional amendment. In the meantime, vote blue, whatever you do.

No . No more celebrities for high office. Please.

None of the Dem possibilities are particularly exciting. Bernie's too old and a joke, so is Biden. Kamala Harris looks good on paper but has very little experience, Gavin Newsome, same issue. Who else? Liz Warren? Nah. She's like a whiny librarian. The little Kennedy is obviously trying to run but he's too young and if we've had too many Clintons and Bushes, we've had way too many Kennedys.

[quote]Vote for the Democratic candidate, whoever that may be. Even Oprah. Never vote for a Republican, nor for a third party candidate. Ever. If the electoral college is eliminated, or restructured, then this rule might change. But that would require a constitutional amendment. In the meantime, vote blue, whatever you do.

While I don't necessarily disagree with this statement, I wonder whether it's how we ended up with trump as president.

How many rethugs were convinced of this logic - especially when the option was worse than H for most of them.

I think she's qualified. Barely. Yet infinitely more qualified than our current President. But I would prefer someone with experience in Washington. I just don't think we should start having a series of celebrity Presidents, rather than ones who have actually served in government.

Say hello to Vice President TYLER PERRY!

Can you just imagine Dumps reaction to being between O and O in the Presidential picture display? Hah, for all future generations to look at. That would definitely drive him nuts!

I would vote for Bernie Sanders.

I would vote for Elizabeth Warren.

Because they are both extremely qualified.

This country cannot take another UNQUALIFIED President. We have had dumbshit bush and now the cheetolini trump. No more.

R99,

[quote]While I don't necessarily disagree with this statement, I wonder whether it's how we ended up with trump as president.

I suppose that is worth considering.

So is this…

No. Enough with celebrity politics.

Put a fucking sock in it, r104.

Will DL's Team Hillary be able to forgive Oprah for this?

R104 welcome Igor!

Bernie's NOT qualified. He's a one-issue candidate and has done fuck all in the Senate but rename post offices. He's a loudmouth, do nothing.

Warren's also a one-issue candidate. And I'm afraid Trevor Noah had a point: she claimed to be part native American, she was listed at Harvard as being a native American and, worst of all, contributed 'a family recipe' to a cookbook called "Powwow Chow". That alone'll kill her. The Massachusetts Genealogical Society checked her out and she has zero native American heritage.

Why, r107? She was absolutely right.

Link to the genealogical society, r108?

Noting that many people did not like Hillary has gotten many of us called Borises, Ivans, BernieBro, Millennnial Idiots, and worse.

That's not what Oprah said, though. Oprah said VOTE FOR HER ANYWAY.

And anyone who didn't vote for Clinton because they thought she was unlikable is at least an idiot, if not worse.

R110 here's Politifact

The pertinent quote: 'We have no proof that Elizabeth Warren's great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent,' society spokesman Tom Champoux told the Herald for a May 2012 story.

In other words, this... "The Massachusetts Genealogical Society checked her out and she has zero native American heritage" ...is not true.

Also notice this: "When applying to college and law school, records show that she either identified as white or declined to apply based on minority status."

r114......dont confuse them with facts and take away the one pleasure they have in life.....they have to substitute someone for Hillarys position now that shes gone from the scene. Theyve been using that tired trope for years....just like Benghazi and emails !........say it long enough and the idiots believe it.

Oprah would have the benefit of Obama being her go to person should she run into any trouble. Her cabinet would be top notch and the absolute best. Oprah does not skimp when it comes to anything. ( I would personally love it if she appointed Will and Jada Pinkett Smith heads of the National Endowment of Arts). She is incredibly bright and would prioritize based on the average person's true needs.

Think this one through, kids. This could legitimately work.

Oprah won't get too far into it before she decides that there are easier ways finally to get some of the White House pie that Michelle wouldn't give her.

[quote]Hillary would have had her two terms and Obama would be President right now (and a better one because of more experience.) Oh well, it is what it is.

I’m not so sure about that. People HATE Clinton. I’m not sure why, maybe its sexism, maybe her coolness and subsequent (painful) attempts to be warm ‘n’ lovable. Maybe because she’s simply not likable. I would’ve voted for her, but if she only managed a squeaker with our current idiot president, she almost certainly would’ve done worse against anyone else.

That’s assuming that the 2016 wasn’t rigged. I think it was.

Please no more tv celebrities.

The only reason people hate Hillary is because they cant think for themselves and have been fed a diet of anti-Clinton propaganda for the past 30 years by the republicans.

R120 yep. It killed me during the campaign to see alleged socialists coughing up neocon bullshit from the 90s to trash Hillary. Shows either how ignorant a bunch of Bernie Bros are or how rightwing they really are. I assume a lot of Bernie Bros are the kids of rich, rightwing Republicans. They liked Bernie because he offered them a bunch of freebies (he had no idea how to pay for) just like their parents love the GOP, offering rich people freebies (which they pay for by robbing poor people).

the propaganda worked against Hillary. They ramped it up starting in 2014 with the BITCH book and then Benghazi and then the glasses and then finally the private server. Rehashing all of Bill’s stuff finished them off.

What happened to Hillary was a study in 21 century brainwashing/propaganda/smearing. It was a communications story at its heart.

Same story with Obama. They smeared him to kingdom come.

The GOP has, since Lee Atwater, specialized in mudslinging and it works. The Dems are always too 'I don't want to be unfair!' goodie-two-shoes. We need an LBJ type ballbreaker in there.

Hillary created her own persona of the loathsome villainess. She didn't need any help doing that.

Healthcare for you, healthcare for you, healthcare for everything one!

I can't imagine her being open to having her personal life scrutinized, and you know it would be.

Her celebrity connections are going to work against her. They worked against Hillary.

Here’s what anti-Trump Republican strategist Rick Wilson had to say about her in a Politico article:

[QUOTE]For Democrats, what’s not to love?’ Rick Wilson is a Florida-based Republican strategist.

[QUOTE]It’s still an open question as to whether Oprah is a good candidate, but it turns out she’s outstanding at trolling. This probably wasn’t the blow Trump’s already delicate mental state needed. Oprah is vastly more popular with the American people, she has made more money, she has built businesses that haven’t consistently gone bankrupt, and she is better on television. For Democrats, what’s not to love?

It just hit me that we’re seriously discussing a potential Presidential election between Oprah and Donald Trump. Wow.

It had nothing to do with brainwashing or other propaganda.

They just didn't like Hillary's hairstyle.

I guess this is the desperate place progressives have found themselves that we are inching for Oprah to run. It is true Democratic party is a mess, since Trump won we have not been thinking rationally most of the time. We are willing to latch on to anyone, it is quite pathetic. We need someone who has political experience not someone who gives speeches because they make us feel good at the moment. We should not fall into the Republican trap. I have this weird feeling they might like Oprah to run.

Why would Republicans want Oprah to run?

R131 Rick Wilson hates Trump with a passion. In fact, the most powerful anti-Trump voices belong to Republicans, not wimpy Dems: Nicolle Wallace, Steve Schmidt, Richard Painter, Bill Kristol, Stephanie Ruhle.

Because one thing Republicans are good at is playing reverse psychology on progressives. Some might praise Oprah but they have ways to smear her by pointing to progressives use of identity politics. Yes Republicans use it themselves but are good at turning it against Democrats. They will dig up scandals about Oprah that she will regret running. When it all comes down to shove they will all back Trump again and he might win reelection.

What are some of the Oprah scandals that might come up?

hell yessssssssssss

but she better ditch the sad steadman and let gayle take her place at the throne next to her.

If she were the candidate against Trump? Yes, but under duress.

I'd rather vote for a smart, non-celeb, who knows what they are doing.

"the most powerful anti-Trump voices belong to Republicans"

Utter horseshit.

I wouldn't vote for Oprah if you paid me.

Why, r138? If it was Trump or Oprah?

Picture of her been chummy with Weinstein, closeted lesbian, a host of other stuffs they will dig out. She is considered an hypocrite for been overly friendly with the king of perv, so that is a start. Republicans don't need to point to her race and gender because they will play it smart while dragging her reputation. Have we not learned anything from 2016.nevermind progressives do not learn. I for one do not want to relive 2016 in the next presidential election, too much stress and anxiety. I just prefer a white progressive male run against Trump.

I would vote for her if she had a competent VP who is experienced in politics. What we have in office now is a joke who is surrounding himself with retards. I don't know how this country is being managed. Oprah is smart and she would surround herself with the best people, probably the same people that served with Obama. As far as foreign policy, she would have to get someone like John Kerry, already experienced.

Anyone but Trump and the GOP

But Oprah is very popular, so the smear campaign would mostly fall on deaf ears. Oprah has been very open about things in her life.....im sure theres not much they could come up with.

Stop saying she'd be better than Trump. Anybody is better than Trump and no, I would not vote for her. The presidency is not a popularity contest. We can't keep electing celebrities. If we do we're going to have to severely cut back the powers of the president and let Congress make the executive decisions while the latest "president" does his/her ego dance.

I think she would run if the Democrats have no other alternative. She would run if it was a chance to save her country.

So if Trump ran again and Oprah ran against him, you would NOT vote for Oprah? So you learned nothing.

You are underestimating Republicans, I guess you guys learned nothing since last year. Progressives are really stubborn and refuse to learn from their mistakes, it is quiet surreal. You guys have completely lost your collective minds due to extreme Trump derangement snydrome. All because the other side nominated a celebrity and he won does not mean we should try and implement the same thing. The Democratic party is a mess and desperate which is not a good look. Progressives still don't know how to beat Trump.

"The Democratic party is a mess and desperate "

It's really not. But that is the current go-to talking point of the right.

I guess those that refuse to vote for Oprah learned something and those that do think nominating their own celeb to counter the other party have learned nothing. I am a progressive and I do believe that nominating Oprah is a true sign of desperation. There are truly qualified progressive candidates but most of them seem weak. There has to be someone besides a celebrity who can beat Trump.

In a primary a HUGE NO, but if she won the nomination, I will vote for the Democrat regardless of who they are, virtually no one the Democrats put up could be worse than Trump/Pence.

I don't think we need to encourage this idea of someone with no experience in government is a good idea.

I would vote for Oprah with unbridled enthusiasm. I teared up several times during her speech last night. She would bring some much needed hope and comfort to the American people. I truly hope shows considering running. I'm sure she would surround herself with qualified people.

[quote]I am a progressive and I do believe that nominating Oprah is a true sign of desperation.

Her speech and rumored run have gotten more attention than any other prospective democratic candidate. Maybe it is a sign of desperation, but at which end?

If you don't want Oprah to run, you better find someone who can generate just as much excitement and buzz (if not more) than she has just within one day. It's that simple. Griping about it is futile and a waste of time.

I wonder how many of the same people who are complaining about Oprah complained about Clinton running in 2016 and how she was "coronated" even though everyone knew for several years that her run was likely and had more than enough time to get another candidate out there?

George W. Bush was a dunce and what we have now in the office is an Orange nightmare. At least Bush surrounded himself with experienced politicians but he made a bad decision in invading Iraq. I seem to remember that people wanted Mike Bloomberg or Mike Cuban to run. Is it because they're male? People discredit her because she is a black woman?

The speech was alright but please let's think with our head not with our emotions. Fellow progressives losing their collective minds is just really a turn off. It made me want to become an independent. No more celebrity make me feel good speeches. Who are the potential male candidates on the Democratic ticket. Yes I stated male. This is not the time for gender and racial identity politics.

In the primary? No, I would not vote for her. If somehow she got the nomination and it was her vs. Trump, well, then yes, at least she's not lazy or demented. Narcissist, yes, not as smart as a president should be, but I suppose Nate Berkus as Secretary of the Interior would be miles ahead of current, fuckwit, Ryan Zinke.

Anyway, she won't run.

No, not because she's a black woman. Because she's ego tripping. If she ran against Trump I'd have to vote for a third party. The fact that we're discussing this is proof that our country is no longer to be taken seriously.

Don't call yourself a "fellow progressive" then spout this garbage: "This is not the time for gender and racial identity politics."

Why is Dubya not being remembered for all the horrendous things that happened during Cheney and the Neo-Conservatives' reign (the "experienced politicians of R152), not just the Iraq apocalypse?

Cheney & the Neo-Cons two terms were beyond disastrous for this country and the world, but the thought of a narcissistic, completely out-of-touch (Oprah doesn't do stairs) talk show host WHO WITHOUT IRONY BROUGHT US DR. PHIL becoming president , right after a failed grifter, completely insane, reality-show host president, is pretty much asking for Armageddon.

You talk about voting for a third party and you think that our country isnt taken seriously? Irony impaired much?

R158- you consider Oprah a viable candidate for US PRESIDENT and you think that our country isn't taken seriously? Irony impaired much?

Yes Oprah is the talk of today but what happens when we move on. I have a right to express my views. All progressives do not think alike. I have a right to state that I prefer a male candidate to run against orange turd.

No. We have got to get these fucking entertainers out of politics.

"I have a right to express my views."

I hear this all the time from Trumpsters. And like this time it is never in response to anyone saying anything like you cannot have your own views or cannot express them.

"All progressives do not think alike."

Again, not in any way at issue here.

"I have a right to state that I prefer a male candidate to run against orange turd."

You certainly do. But that is a different question than what you would do if it were Trump v. Winfrey.

Well, I think that someone with a degree in, well lets see...Political Science, would be a step in the right direction at least. Can we try to find a candidate who has that or at least a modicum of knowledge of politics?

R163 and then Dump comes up with some stupid insult for that person and people laugh and discredit that person. He has a way of doing that and his dumbass followers eat it up. That’s 35% and another 15% could easily be persuaded to vote for him because they don’t want change. Bring on Oprah and that cuts that insult strategy off. She is loved by many who wouldn’t fall for his crap.

I love the Trump trolls on here pretending to be progressives who'd vote 3rd party. Do you people still get paid? To post on the DL?

Of course, the game plan changes if the Dems take Congress in November. That Orange turd will be impeached in early 2019 and then we run a more conventional candidate and mop the floor with President Pence in 2020.

Disliking Oprah doesn't mean liking Trump. Saying Oprah is not qualified is not saying Trump is. Some people don't like either Trump or Oprah. They just don't like either one of them. Or they don't believe either one of them are qualified.

If she is the Democratic nominee I’ll hold my nose and vote for her. But I’ll fight like hell against her in the primaries. She, Bernie and Gillibrand make up a trifecta of “nope” for me.

All of my friends on IG are excited about the prospect of her run. I think many young people will come out strong for her. The gay community will 100% be behind her.

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I don't think she'll run after she sees all the crap she's getting. You have to have skin as thick as brick wall.

On the one hand, I agree that the president ideally should be someone with previous political experience, not a celebrity. On the other hand, I have yet to hear the name of any potential Democratic candidate for 2020 who would be able to inspire people, or bring people together, or have as much bipartisan appeal as Oprah. If none of the Democratic presidential candidates in 2020 is able to generate much buzz, then it might be time to unleash the O bomb.

I would want to know her positions and views before deciding. We don't even know what her policies would be. I can't believe no one else has commented on that yet.

Oprah Gayle and Steadman in the Whitehouse having a menace a trois. Dont get me wrong. I don't have a problem but are Wal-Mart Americans ready.

Do I want Oprah to run for President? No

Would I vote for her if she did run for President? Yes

She's possibly thin-skinned if people aren't kissing her ass. I base this on her feud with Letterman after the Uma Oprah bit at the Oscars that year. She didn't speak to him for years, as I recall.

I doubt she's as thin-skinned as Trump (I don't think it's scientifically possible that another adult human being could be) and I'm sure she wouldn't taunt CNN hosts or North Korea on Twitter, but she does seem to have a massive ego. Mostly contained for the public, but massive nonetheless.

Motivational speakers have the gift of public speaking, but they never really turn it off in their personal lives and they seem not exactly fake but not exactly normal, either. Oprah speaks in platitudes and quotes, and I think she probably goes as deep as a dewdrop.

Nice lady, though!

America's minimal criteria for a presidential candidate should be that they haven't publicly referenced their genitalia in any capacity. So Trump "I guarantee you there is no problem [with his penis size]" and Oprah proclaiming the comfort level of her vagina on camera would be officially disqualified for a 2020 run.

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I like Oprah, but no way in hell should’ve she run for President.

This is why Hollywood and Washington need to be separate.

I'd vote for her against Trump every time, but not with enthusiasm.

She could possibly win the white frau vote back for Dems, but I'm sure she'd lose even more Midwestern white men.

I will vote for anybody with a (D) on that presidential ballot come 2020. I don't care if it's fucking Bozo the Clown (even he would be better than Trump), as long as they follow the Democrat agenda. At this point, it's time for Democrats to stop being so divisive and discriminating amongst themselves. Time to make like Republicans and vote straight ticket (D)!

Interesting twitter thread about Oprah vs. Trump. I'm not saying I'd for sure vote for her, this is a good read.

[quote] Bernie's too old and a joke, so is Biden. Kamala Harris looks good on paper but has very little experience, Gavin Newsome, same issue. Who else?

Both Harris and Newsom have been involved in CA government for two decades. How much experience do you require?

[quote] She could possibly win the white frau vote back for Dems, but I'm sure she'd lose even more Midwestern white men.

White fraus are the key demographic. White men vote overwhelmingly Republican, but it was white women who put Trump in office. If Oprah could cleave off just 1/3 of white frau Trump voters she could win.

Not that anyone needs reminding but it was Oprah's support and advocacy that got Obama elected. She introduced him to middle America on her show.

If she ran as a Republican she might win.

Any of the current Democrats being talked about for 2020 would beat Trump comfortably. We don't need Oprah as our savior to save us from Trump. The 2018 Blue Wave is just the beginning.

I hope the elevators in the White House are all in working order because OPRAH DOESN'T DO STAIRS.

[quote] Any of the current Democrats being talked about for 2020 would beat Trump comfortably.

This is overconfidence, a chronic problem that we have as Democrats. We thought anyone could beat Trump in 2016. We thought George W. Bush would never win a second term and that anyone could beat him in 2004. We're great at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. If we nominate someone in 2020 who is weak, lacks charisma or has trouble relating to middle America, then I think a second Trump term is a definite possibility. A lot of voters in 2016 thought Trump was unqualified, rude, and not fit to be president -- but they voted for him anyway. Don't pretend that the same thing couldn't happen again in 2020.

Certainly not! She's not even remotely qualified for the job. She's just a media whore with a big mouth.

R191 She's intelligent and sane. She made her money herself and has successfully run a massive business. Unlike Trump who is a money launderer.

Well said poster 190. Progressives tend to suffer from the disease called "ain't learning shit". Mistakes makes them stronger and they just repeat that same mistakes again, it is what they do best. Overconfident is the right word because they keep overestimating the demographics that voted for trump especially white women. Roy Moore getting the white women vote told me a lot about that demographic.

[R190] and [R193] make important and thoughtful points, which are spot on.

However you've gone against the DL consensus which means I now have to label you as Russian trolls.

I always said that the first woman president would be a black woman: Oprah. And Stedman is out of Central Casting for First Man.

I was taught in kindergarten, not that anyone could be president, but that the smartest, hardest working, best educated, most ethical person would rise up through public service to be president, and this made sense to me.

I believe that Oprah would be a good delegator. Plus, she knows how to go through the wrinkle in time that we are all being prepared for.

At least it's not Kanye West...

[quote] R 191 She's intelligent and sane. She made her money herself and has successfully run a massive business. Unlike Trump who is a money launderer.

And that in NO FUCKING WAY makes her qualified to be POTUS. Politics and business (especially the entertainment business) DO NOT operate anywhere near the same way.

I don't think she is qualified to be president, but she would be 1000 times better than Trump, and who else would beat him?

Dwayne Johnson? He's running as a Repub. Luckily Kanye 's cosmic shift knocked him out of contention cause he was gunning as a Dem.

No fucking way. Although it would be amusing to see Stedman and Gayle elbowing each other out of the way and fighting about who had to sleep alone in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Oprah is not running for president! She has a nice life and plenty of money to do whatever she wants. Who's going to give that up? Not me. She said herself she's more effective as a private citizen. I agree with her. But if she was the nominee I would absolutely vote for Oprah with no problem.

The United States is built on three powerhouses: Military might, Hollywood glamour/mythos, and money. The last of these is on shaky ground. Expect more famous, mega-wealthy people to continue to build out our oligarchy and if Trump doesn’t somehow annex us as a property of Russia first, even more desperate overt military and economic bullying of other countries and more profit-making war. That’s our future—until we finally poison ourselves through tainted food and water, and we collapse like Rome.

DL, I j'adore you, but this thread is very sissy-la-la.

First and foremost, let this Oprah thing be completely organic. Do nothing to encourage it, but don't try to kill it either. It should be COMPLETELY ignored until/unless she claws her way through the primaries. Then, you support her. If you promote her candidacy in the primaries, even chatting on threads like this a lot, then you're a POS and you're ignorant.

Second, I'm showing my age, but it is SHOCKING how few know her childhood. Oprah didn't have any *shoes* until she was 8 (if memory serves). She is literally the American dream embodied. She came from the most ignorant poverty you can imagine. When her mother speaks, it barely sounds like English, I'm guessing her mother's IQ is maybe 85. Oprah is the first female African-American billionaire in the world -- the first! She is a sublime force in media. Yes, OWN is a bust, but put in the context over her lifetime business dealings, it is a tiny blip. She is as good as it gets in terms of her business acumen, particularly in the area of media. Furthermore, her philanthropic work has been her passion for decades (unlike our President) and she was praised by countless former employees for her generosity. I can guarantee Oprah did not know about the free cars having additional fees, and likely by the time it got to her, it was just a mess by then anyway. (And the poster who's family was pissed about this are silly asshats).

Oprah is not perfect. She's definitely flakey and too New Agey when it comes to spirituality and personal self-help. Hollywood has deeeeeeffffinitely rubbed off on her over the years, she isn't as earthy as she was earlier in her career. She's definitely a material girl. But she is also an enormous school advocate and would undoubtably FUND education in America. The pros likely quadruple the cons for O.

Having said all that, Oprah is indeed trolling -- this is all for her new movie promo. And for that, she should be called out. "Oprah, Republicans accuse you of taking advantage of the public by essentially "teasing" the American people about running for President. How do you respond to the accusations of creating a "fake news" presidential run to promote your new movie?" Corner her, shit or get off the pot, O.

[quote]This is overconfidence, a chronic problem that we have as Democrats. We thought anyone could beat Trump in 2016.

Yeah, and how many Democrats thought they were being so cute and clever when they registered as Republicans so they could vote for Trump in the primaries, thus giving Hillary an easy win? Dumb asses got handed their asses by deplorables.

If she won the Democratic nomination, then yes. I don't believe she's the ideal candidate, but she's a far better option than who we have at the moment.

She's more qualified than Trump. That's not saying much, but it's still true. That said, I wouldn't vote for her in the primaries, but I'd vote for a boiled turnip over a Republican. So, yeah, if she was the nominee and my only other option was some GOP Nazi, I'd vote for her.

Oprah does not wipe properly.

If it comes down to Trump v. Oprah I will seriously leave the country. I remember thinking the Republicans would never allow Trump to be the nominee, but here we are, where up is down and down is up and the whole country is going to rot.

No. No prior political expererience. As much as we love her political views, her finger is still on the nuclear button. We need a diplomat who can solve problems without launching missiles. My opinion.

Yes!!!

She's not an idiot, R5. OP is correct about her strengths and weaknesses. I would prefer not to vote for her, but it depends on who her opponent is.

Oprah is a scam artist who peddled that "Secret" nonsense onto her cultish audience members. Enough with these celebrity presidents!

The OP is insane, as are all the crazies who think Oprah Winfrey should be President. She's as qualified to be President as Donald Trump is. In other words, she is not qualified at all. And don't shriek "but she'd be better than Trump!" That's faint praise; a rock would be better than Donald Trump. She's a a narcissistic, obscenely wealth media personality who has never held political office and has never had any experience governing. She is UNFIT to be President. My God, have people gone entirely mad? I can't believe that anyone would take the idea of Oprah Winfrey as president seriously. It is truly insane.

R212 Our country is insane and ignorant by will. What else would you expect?

The OP is the Oprah Troll posting from multiple IP's. Everyone should block her. When she comes back using another device/IP address (and she will) block her again. She is using a gay board to promote Oprah. I suspect since LSA is not anonymous she can't preach and promote Oprah there. Oprah hasn't even announced that she will definitely run. If she were POTUS, she would not give black people reparation. Get off your soapbox and stop with these Oprah threads.

R212, no one but a few crazies thinks she *should* be president. But, like I said, I'd vote for a boiled turnip over a Republican.

Whalepra is a fat frau scam artist like dump, she is a 1 percent'er she's part of dumps circle so why are people here all of a sudden in love with this closet dyke?

Absolutely not. The next president needs to have some government experience and political connections. Otherwise, it's a four-year paid learn-basic-politics-on-the-job gig.

I'd rather vote for Honey Boo Boo.

I wouldn't vote for her if she ran for a bus.

No.

But, I'd vote for Gayle!

I swear to Satan, political aspirations or no --if La Oprah and Witherspoon ruin "A Wrinkle in Time" - I'll be outraged!

After watching that clip of Michelle Obama on Ellen - it makes me wonder if Michelle really might run now. That was very let's all come together as Americans comment.

I'd vote for her if she was the Dem nominee opposing the Moron. But I think I've had enough of celebrities trying to run the government.

BREAKING ANNOUNCEMENT: Oprah said she's NOT running.

Not everyone likes her and is an Oprah fan, and those who are fans many of them don't want her in the Oval Office.

End of story.