Dear White Gay Men, Stop Turning Yourselves Into Heroes

Hahaha! Homophobia in a new package!

I’m biracial and this spiel is tiresome. Mike Pence is the enemy, and fighting amongst ourselves will get us NOWHERE. Unite and fight!

That writer really ought to find another line of work. He must suck some mean dick to have gotten that job- or he writes for free.

[quote] By next week you’ll be saying that Carson Jones threw the first brick at Stonewall."

No, that's the line your scumbag tranny allies love to use.

Could seperatism be the answer? Serious question. I think it’s a good idea. I think it’s safe, healthy...I’m getting to that point where it’s a logical choice.

[quote] The most popular tweet about this photo calls it the “photo of the decade.”The “photo of the decade” is this photo of a white gay man looking at Mike Pence the exact same way gay men look at everyone? Honestly, it’s not even the photo of the week — trust me, I opened Scruff just this afternoon.

[quote] The HRC even said “We are all Carson Jones,” which makes sense since the HRC is pretty much just white gay men.

On first seeing the picture my initial thought was Carson Jones looked like a no-class idiot showing more disrespect his father's moment of triumph to then to Pence. But the writer here does put matters in focus.

Phillip Henry (whoever the fuck she is) needs to be bitch slapped into next week, STAT!!!!

Everyone knows RuPaul threw the first brick at Stonewall

R7, I love your enthusiasm for bitch slapping someone you know nothing about. Thanks for making my day! Who the fuck is Phillip Henry and shouldn't everyone with two first names be bitch slapped?

I think this is Phillip Henry. Apparently r7 is a racist who wants to incite violence on black men. But what are the odds he would have the nerve to try doing so himself.

Phillip Henry clearly wants a white man boyfriend but keeps getting rejected

What a waste of time and effort.

Eating our own is going to get us nowhere.

Fuck this bullshit.

Dear Black Gay Men, Stop Pretending that Stonewall was primarily a POC protest. It wasn't.

R10, that man has a smile that could go for miles. He looks nice. Two first names suit him. R7, fuck off.

R6 it was a photograph capturing a split second in time and I'm not even sure he's looking at pence. Without seeing the video it's ridiculous of you to be so judgemental over a photo. The reason people like it is because everyone hates Pence and his anti-gay bullshit and it made them happy to think Carson was side eyeing him.

Most people with brains knew it was likely just the photo and not really what he was doing, but they enjoyed pretending it was. Except you, who projected "but our respectable institutions!" on it.

The writer of the article is clearly an idiot just trying to get clicks. He has absorbed gender studies and intersectionality theory as dogma and now seeks to contaminate the rest of us with his faux dramas. Let us all hope he is fired immediately and the "magazine concept" of "them" is relegated to the trashbin of history where it belongs.

I'm so sick of white gay men always being vilified. It's because of white gay men that we have the rights we have today. It all started with Stonewall (where most of the patrons were white), it grew from there with white gay men leading the major gay organizations. So please stfu and stop believing that white gay men are the devil. Where have black gay men been? They certainly haven't been visible to the same extent that white gay men have. White gay men have been fighting for decaces.

[quote]Here’s the thing about white gay culture: you guys have this remarkable ability to make any man who happens to be white, gay, and alive a hero — and a lot of times he doesn’t even have to be gay * stares directly at Timothee Chalamet *!

He's dissing Timothee! Get him, girls!

OP goes searching for some rando online to say something like this, and then delights in promoting it as much as possible to sew division.

[quote]It’s time for you to put down the poppers for a second and refocus.

This is just trash. Whose website is this, again? I predict a short, unhappy life for it.

It sounds like a "gay" website written for straight SJW girls.

[quote]This is just trash. Whose website is this, again?

DL fave Meredith Talusan is the editor!

[quote]Trans women of color are dying at alarming rates so you can have wedding cakes

Well, tell them to STOP, please. We'll have something else for dessert, really.

[quote] Trans women of color are dying at alarming rates so you can have wedding cakes

Hurry, someone marry me so we can mow down a few more.

I wouldn't exactly call voguing and "ball culture" a major contribution. He very conveniently forgets the whites who risked their lives for black civil rights in the South. Fuck him.

This is why we hate Them.

You think we don't know of your hatred for your fellow man, r25?

[quote] You think we don't know of your hatred for your fellow man, [R25]?

Them the website, you fucking moron.

Dear THEM,

Just stop. You're stupid, and you insult the legacy of giant radioactive ants.

To me he's clearly looking at that woman. Is that his mother? Oh my god. Are we witnessing an Oedipal moment?

Dear Gay Men of all races, we need to take back our history and culture.

"... and then delights in promoting it as much as possible to sew division."

Is one supposed to bring their own needle and thread to this division, or is it supplied by the organizers?

Is there a Black version of this gif I can culturally appropriate just to piss off the idiotic author of that inane diatribe?

[quote]Alvin Ailey revolutionized modern dance. James Baldwin wrote queer criticism that has inspired generations of gay men while also being a leader during the Civil Rights Movement. And yet, in spite of all the hard work QPOC have put in and sacrificed, we rarely, if ever, receive our due.

He's right! No one has ever heard of these obscure people!

Just put her in blackface, R32

R11 has it right. This guy would kill his own mother for a white boyfriend.

Any question?

He lost me at, “Trans women of color are dying at alarming rates so you can have wedding cakes.” Huh?

Cuntly OP. I am the hero of my own story. We all are. So thank you for the advice, Cuntly McCuntface, but I've got some hero-ing to get to.

Gimme a cake, I sure deserve it.

Isn't QPOC something you stuff pillows with?

[quote]Whose website is this, again?

The author of that anal sex article in Teen Vogue is the main culprit

I used to buy my Beanie Babies on QPOC

[quote]fighting amongst ourselves will get us NOWHERE. Unite and fight!

You're so cute even after they spit in your face!

Attacking other gay people is easy; we're soft targets. Has this bloviating "writer" ever taken on the KKK or White Supe Trump fascists? Black Baptists closet homos? No, because bourgeois white gays are an easy target.

It actually looks like they are all actively trying to not look at Pence. Ha.

While you may or may not agree with the writer, the micro-aggressions in this thread definitely shows that the cunts who said them are racist.

[quote]...then delights in promoting it as much as possible to sew division

As opposed to the article itself? Pointing out the diversionary tactics from 'them' is not diversionary tactics. What a moron!

I'm a bit confused about how "white" comes into play. Oh--and the sentiment is insaneky homophobic. Every gay person deserves to be a hero. Black, Asian, White, and so on. We all put up with shit. Every day of our fucking lives. Dividing us up by race is just more bullshit. And anyone who falls for it is not as smart as they think they are.

I'm guilty of a micro aggression? Fuck that, bitch. Come over here and let's get majorly aggressive! Nothing passive about my hatred for SJW bullshit. It's divisive and pure poison. Grow a pair and go pick a fight with a white shirted tiki-torch wearing asshole in need of an ass kicking. I like chinos and would like to wear them again.

Attacking gays is easy, acceptable, and never goes out of style.

R31, one brings one's own needle and THREAT.

This shit used to bother me, but not anymore. You're right, I do have my rights so why stay where I'm not welcomed. You want the spotlight, the organizations, the board seats. Fine, take them. I'll be fine.

Until you're not E52.

You think you're BIG! Well you're not!

That is a great photo and the writer of the article is shit stirring for now reason other than clicks. Fuck 'im.

Perhaps not R54, but these fools aren't the answer.

Move over, LGBTQ+...there's a new initialism in town. QTPOC is the new thing.

Did any of you California or filmmaker queens get those fundraising emails from Outfest? I got 3-4 the last week of December all looking for my cis-white-gay-privileged money to help them in their mission to make sure that Queer and Trans People of Color were no longer silenced.

Don't get me wrong...I'm thrilled if the QTPOC want to break off and start their own shit. But that's not what they're doing. They're just being victims and expecting Whitey to pay their bills. Sorry...the checkbook is closed. I don't give money to Queer or Trans anything.

He was probably listening to the Dreamgirls soundtrack on his Bluetooth.

Regarding the writer's pic, it seems the "gay Amish" look is in this year.

This is a much funnier article about that photo of Carson Jones, it is at least partly tongue-in-cheek but man the homophobes on Yahoo just can't handle that.

...and op isn’t racist???.....

[quote]I’m biracial and this spiel is tiresome.

What do you mean by biracial? Asian-White? Hispanic-Asian? Black-White? White-Hispanic? Black-Asian? Black-Hispanic? You could be anything.

[QUOTE]Homophobia in a new package!

More like racism in a new package. Ok, maybe not so new.

I was severely flamed for calling out that super homophobic black lesbian racist here who frequently makes threats and uses the F word with abandon.

A black gay man called me a racist for doing so. I believe that there is a divide forming and the TPOC are at the heart of it.

Wasn't this article directly inspired by an earlier DL thread? Isn't it another example of people ripping off DL for content?

[quote] I believe that there is a divide forming and the TPOC are at the heart of it.

I kind of agree with this. I saw this coming with BLM and Pride this past summer.

Face it, white gay men are racist, sexist, transphobic and only cares about themselves while thinking they're the biggest victims in the world. It's hard to feel sorry for a group of people who are just disgusting and ignorant. Now I'm sure most of America doesn't hate gays in general but the white ones ruined it for themselves hence the "white gays" and not "all gays".

R69 made this thread :

[quote]Justin Bieber looking like a snack...Yummy

R70 Oh look a transphobic white gay (yeah I've seen your post) what does Justin Bieber have to do with anything?

You have shit taste...in white men

I drove a Trans Am as a teenager. Does that count?

It's like every SJW screed is shat out by the same software program. Honest to god, they all read the same.

[quote]Honest to god, they all read the same

Because they're a cult...they think the same, act the same, try to control others the same

R72 Yes white HETEROSEXUAL men who isn't a bigot. And I'm more than positive he's better looking than you. Don't throw rocks from a glass house.

Hahaha! Thanks for exposing yourself!

r76 Justin is actually a well documented bigot who is probably blowing the creepy pastor of his bigot church. still not as bad as the QTPOCLOL brigade though...

Face it, r69. You don’t know shit from shinola about white gay men. You sound like a racist idiot victim who looks to be offended at every turn...

R79 Yet you were offended by the comment?

So we should be like Black Gay men and live on the "down low" ?

Pshhh. So jealous.

R81 Tell that to all the white senator's getting exposed for touching teenage boys recently

R70 You fucking LIAR. I have never made a comment on Justin Bieber in my life.

It's one thing to flame another poster because you don't like him/her, but to make a lie out of whole cloth? That is so childish and dishonest.

r81 I think that's a big part of it. Black culture has a BIG problem with homosexuality. I've known so many black gay men and women (none of them SJWs, thank god) who basically rejected the black community and have lived amongst and socialized with whites, who were fully accepting. And they didn't feel a damn bit of guilt about it. As one friend of mine said "life is too short to deal with their bullshit. I'll live among who I want to live among."

[quote]“life is too short to deal with their bullshit. I'll live among who I want to live among."

Yes, be around people who like you!

If Miss Thing were standing in front of me spewing that idiocy,I would laugh in his face and walk away. Cute hat,though.

Um R83 yes you did. Just checked for myself.

Just face it, you're a fatass black bitch who wants that white trash D up your hole and is frustrated that it's not going to happen.

R87 Oh boy did I fuck up. I must have been in mid-stroke when I read your post. I am not R69, I am R64. I retract every word I said and I apologize both to you as well as R69.

FWIW, I really don't want that white trash D up my hole.

He writes like someone I'm so glad I don't know. Insufferable and full of himself.

R87 Again.... the white trash is still richer, better looking and more successful than you

And the hood rat on the street corner is more successful than you, R90. So check that!

Fye, Belicia!

What have white gays ever done for us? Besides AIDS?

You don't like gay white men? Fine, we'll just close our checkbooks. Good luck, and peace out.

Down with CLOACA!

Even better, R93, if gay white men have failed you or even just let you down, then maybe it's high time for all of the brothers to get off of their fine, closeted asses and lead the way? Or are you still on "black people time?"

I thought it was CPT?

The guy who wrote the article doesn't realize most gay white men who read the article will think he's a lunatic or make fun of him.

R93 I am probably wrong but my guess is the device in your weak little bitty hand is an Apple. Google Apple CEO. Don't be dumbass. It is not a good look.

Call me crazy, but I seem to remember from all the books I read in the late 80s and on that most scientists believe that AIDS began in Africa.

[quote] What have white gays ever done for us?

REG: Yeah. All right, what have they ever given us?!

XERXES: The aqueduct?

REG: What?

XERXES: The aqueduct.

REG: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah.

COMMANDO #3: And the sanitation.

LORETTA: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like?

REG: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the white guys have done.

MATTHIAS: And the roads.

REG: Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads--

COMMANDO: Irrigation.

XERXES: Medicine.

COMMANDOS: Huh? Heh? Huh...

COMMANDO #2: Education.

COMMANDOS: Ohh...

REG: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough.

COMMANDO #1: And the wine.

COMMANDOS: Oh, yes. Yeah...

FRANCIS: Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss

COMMANDO: Public baths.

LORETTA: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, Reg.

FRANCIS: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this.

COMMANDOS: Hehh, heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.

REG: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the white guys ever done for us?

XERXES: Brought peace.

REG: Oh. Peace? Shut up!

The author of this piece probably has a bookmarked page called "37 Photos of Chris Hemsworth That Will Make You Believe in God".

As if all those black down low brothas are/ever were at the forefront of the gay rights movement. Just because Marsha P happened to be at Stonewall the night the riot broke out. Nope. You have, in large part, white gays and angry white dykes to thank for any kind of advancement in gay rights. Although black queens did give us all the slang.

The writer of that shit article is exactly the type to shit her pants after a weekend binge at Pieces.

Why do black intelligentsia (of the blogger variety) get away with this bullshit?

I get it, "ALL white gays are BAD all the time!" followed by some bizarre opinion that can't be quantified that we're all trying to be "heroes"? HUH?? Of course the white SJW gays all throw themselves prostrate on his altar decrying their shameful whiteness! Such nonsense!

Of course the majority of Americans are white so the majority of gay guys are white. Since we are ALL members of a persecuted minority, you'd think building alliances and put picayune differences away might occur to people, but not Malcom X the Second over here! I find his whole premise insulting, and I won't giving nasty black racists a pass. He needs to be called out for this shit.

When you don't have much to say, just stake out an outrageous contrarian argument and you too can be the next Andrew Sullivan!

The vast majority of funding for GMHC has come from white gays, and the majority of clients are black women and men. I suppose we could just wait for the heroic "QPOCs" to fund it? Yeah, I thought not.

When your head's in the toilet, DON'T BLOW BUBBLES!

"Trans women of colour are dying" is the Queer movement's "Won't someone think of the children." Not sure how whitey getting married means clients of colour and downlow boyfriends of colour have to murder transwomen of colour but I am sure this race baiter could tell us.

What does "Trans women of color are dying at alarming rates so you can have wedding cakes" MEAN?

Trans women are dying at an alarming rate because idiots like this are so eager to blame other gay men rather than have the balls to go up against heterosexual culture and the straight men who are the actual killers. By writing disingenuous bullshit like that he is actually complicit. Fuck him.

"Trans women of color are dying at alarming rates....blah blah cake". Sick of this bullshit too. Transactivists need to go read about a certain little boy who cried "wolf" a bit too often.

Troll Thread.

R111 Of course - that's what happens when you write a piece of trollery like the original article. Nothing has been added to the sum total of human knowledge by writing it - it's just one more piece of negative shit that clogs up the internet.

I've posted this before, but these people would try to erase white gay men from AIDS activism/ACT UP and try to claim it for themselves if that movement hadn't been so thoroughly documented with video and photo evidence. You know it's true.

Young black men are dying at alarming rates.

Like trans women of color (aka black men with a small percentage of Latino men) their killers are their fellow black men. White hands are not pulling triggers and plunging knives into black trans women.

Black queens are the first to turn on HBO and have a ki ki watching Hookers at the Point or Oz, but refuse to admit that street life is deadly.

This blogger needs to sound the alarm that internal house cleaning is long overdue. Prostitution and drugs are the enemy, not affluent gay white men.

If trans women of color would quit turning tricks,maybe they wouldnt be killed at alarming rates? EVERY single black trans I knew in my younger days was a prostitute,and I knew many. I bet if you compared the numbers,its probably in line with the amount of prostitutes of all colors killed across america every day.

Trans is a choice. Gay isn't.

[quote]I've posted this before, but these people would try to erase white gay men

Fixed.

The author's old tweets....

LOL R118 ... Let's hope hope they shit can Philip Henry's racist ass! Although, like HuffPost, I strongly suspect THEM's bloggers are working for "exposure" or maybe only receiving a $100 per article "honorarium."

Although, I'm surprised they didn't turn up any antisemitic tweets. Some black gays spew garbage about Asians, Latinos, undocumented immigrants and Jews with equal ignorance.

Philip Henry will be gagging on his own bitchy venom while standing on the unemployment line.

What can you expect when Meredith Talusan is the editor of that garbage website?

Maybe Meredith will reappear here (like the undead) and defend his trash online magazine?

The trans women of color being killed are mostly street prostitutes trying to deceive sketchy drug-addled clients.

I wouldn't dare add that comment to my SJW Facebook acquaintance who shared this article, and of course the only white guy to comment in support got pounced on. Of course, the number of times the pouncing commenters used "problematic" and "intersectionality" was 3-5.

And "white people don't get to determine the QPOC agenda," etc. was another comment.

Okay, but you get to target a photo of a gay white guy who's now part of a zeitgeist political moment not of his making?

Why? because pouncing on Mike Pence would make sense, and that's not what this deranged flippant THEM writer is about. He's about divisive resentment.

God I hope so, R121.

[quote] The trans women of color being killed are mostly street prostitutes trying to deceive sketchy drug-addled clients.

What does it say about Danny Bonaduce that he couldn't tell the difference?

Has he ever heard of Bayard Rustin? Alan Turing?

[quote]Could seperatism be the answer? Serious question. I think it’s a good idea. I think it’s safe, healthy...I’m getting to that point where it’s a logical choice.

You mean segregation? As in the solution George Wallace was reviled for implementing?

No, seperatism. Asshole.

Well, Miss Thing stated yesterday that he's "no longer gay". Probably wasn't serious, but maybe we should grant his wish.

Of course the rabid THEM "Writer" ignored this:

White cisgender gay males are the colonist cause of everything.

[quote]White cisgender gay males are the colonist cause of everything.

Yes, they are the cause of running water and plumbing and heated houses and electricity and every other modern convenience. Darkies shit in their own water supply without the cis white male to show them a cleaner way.

[quote]Move over, LGBTQ+...there's a new initialism in town. QTPOC is the new thing.

How is it pronounced? Cutie-POCK?

I'm still trying to get used to Latinx — pronounced la-TINKS, it sounds like "Ask your doctor about Latinx."

QTPOC is real?

Successful gay men of color are busy building businesses, marriages, homes, and communities.

We're not clownin' on social media for likes and clicks.

We're not getting shot to death over drug/prostitution transactions gone awry.

I'd say about 30% of us are partnered with white guys.

We're not perfect, but we're doing well because we've learned to avoid messy drama queens and the pitfalls of street life.

[quote]Maybe Meredith will reappear here (like the undead) and defend his trash online magazine?

If you look in the mirror and say her name three times.....

From page of this shit site:

"BREAKING: A Group Chat Has Leaked from Ellen DeGeneres' Deep State - Ellen is not Shadow Government President — Beyoncé is."

Another anti-white site.

The write is a racist and Back2Stonewall has the receipts!

All attempts to divide us are from the same source.

NO. We're united and we're not going to let the Russbots, the fascists, the corrupt GOP or the conniving business interests keep control of the country.

So fuck the people behind that screed. They are the enemy of all of us.

How are we "united" when BLM attacked Clinton and Bernie, but not tRump?

BLM has been remarkably silent ever since Trump got into office.

R138, we're not united. White people are sick of being the ONLY group you can get away with shitting on, at all. How long should we have let ourselves be ridiculed and shamed? And especially white gays are sick of all the misandric, homophobic SJW shit flung our way.

You notice something? We are disengaging. You can have the shitty remains of the trans-obsessed gay institutions that we built. Have fun with all of your misinformation, bad statistics, embarrassingly narcissistic concepts like micro-aggressions, the debunked implicit bias, etc. Nobody cares. Maybe the black community will treat you better, lol!

Scream "won't somebody think of the black trannies" all day long, those trannies and their families needs to give a shit about themselves first.

LOL, look at the writer's tweets.

And R141 is the reason why people don't like white gays

Mr. Henry writes for Teen Vogue, and last year wrote a piece about how those who dislike the rainbow flag with added brown and black are racist.

I always find it amusing when a WHITE SJW is discussing TPOC and mentions in the most earnest of tones, " Many TWOC are fully engaged with their sex work" as though they have just described same as working on their PhDs.

The majority of TWOC are black male prostitutes. That has already been stated up thread. Instead of portraying them as freedom fighters being assassinated by crazed white right wingers, when will the conversation become honest and move to getting them off the streets?

I will bet that the murder rate of cis female black hookers is pretty damn high too.

Phil is lying, the HRC is all tranny all the time these days.

Here's a recent case involving a "trans woman of color" ....

Apparently, "she" hooked up with an 18 year-old thug and recorded their sex on a hidden cellphone. "She" brought a tranny friend to be a backup/lookout. Black tranny #2 was hiding in the trunk when candid camera black tranny #1 was shot to death.

[quote] “I heard him say, ‘don’t point it at me like that, don’t point it at me like that,’” she says. “Seconds after that I heard two gunshots.”

[quote] Tooker believes Berry shot her friend for being transgender, although police say there is no reason to believe that is the case.

This is black-on-black crime pure and simple.

r151 Vast majority of the violence against Black trans women, comes from their self-loathing Black tricks.

R131/Russian troll, you may want to check your history. The Europeans were dumping shit and piss in their streets for quite a long time. When they invaded America, they could barely survive if not for the natives. The only reason they take "credit" for all that you claim is because they stole the ideas and then rewrote history. You're one of the many reasons why I can't stand my "fellow GWM".. So full of hatred and anger.

Dear Russian-division troll,

There are gay men and lesbians with differing opinions. Every statement that offends you is not written by a KGB agent in a Moscow cyber cafe.

Carry on.

r153 that's not what r131 posted.

[quote]The Europeans were dumping shit and piss in their streets for quite a long time.

And Indians, some Africans and some Asians are still doing it!

Why am I not surprised about the racist tweets of this racist writer? This reminds me of the diversity fiasco at Gay Times.

THEM is trash

Oh, it's real R133. Read it and weep...and then laugh...and then weep some fucking more. And then close your fucking checkbook.

My "favorite" part of the Director's Statement may be:

"Inspired in part by the dearth of Xicana butch representation in cinema and television, it was important to me as a two-spirit artist to create a masculine-of-center lesbian character. One of the ways in which we can tackle butchphobia within our own QTPOC communities-let alone heterosexual spheres-is by creating characters with varied gender expressions that can point us to meaningful dialogue in our personal and communal lives."

Two-spirit...Chicana...lesbian...butch. How many oppression points does that give her? She name-dropped Stanford in the first sentence. Did they teach her to be this full of nonsensical bullshit? (And in case you're counting, "intersectional" gets three mentions...while QTPOC gets four!)

𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐗𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐚 𝐑𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 has a nice ring to it. It sounds like the sort of extra-terrestrial empire Perry Rhodan would defend against with a million Earth battleships.

Yes let’s pretend that the racist white supremacist beliefs spouted here were the result of this one mans opinion found in this article. Yes attacking an entire race of people is completely justifiable when offended. So you believe that the author is racist but the people who fill Datalounge with racist white supremacist rhetoric, daily, hourly are not. The same people, by the way, who are ranting in this thread. The same people who can’t wait to throw that victim hat on.

Am I the only one who read the headline at R151 as if they were stating Derricka was a victim of being transgendered?