DLers-- what do you make of the lyrics of Sufjan Stevens' "Mystery Of Love" from CMBYN?

[quote]Seemed off to insert it into a song about two young men in love in Italy 1983 with mentions of Alexander and Hephaestion

Ancient iconography saturates the movie—it's what Oliver and the dad are experts in, hence the scene where they dredge up the old statue.

Yes-- that all made sense R1

I was talking about the random mention of the Rogue River and "my brother's daughter" -- both of which the Genius Lyrics users say are personal to Sufjan Stevens and have nothing to do with CMBYN.

Apparently he is straight, someone was part of his social group and hung out with his friends in Sunny's, Brooklyn's favorite hipster hangout. Gets drunk often hooks up with a lot of women. Like all hipsters he is faux liberal. He thinks only listening to hip hop is so cool and progressive diversity is heterosexual African American people hanging out with heterosexual white people listening to Beyonce, West and Drake.

So many threads about this movie

So many threads

Does the rest of his music sound like this? I like it.

Pretty much R5

This one seems pretty gay:

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ALLIMAGESVIDEOSSHOPPINGNEWSMAPSBOOKSFLIGHTSSEARCH TOOLS Futile Devices Sufjan Stevens LYRICS It's been a long, long time Since I've memorized your face It's been four hours now Since I've wandered through your place And when I sleep on your couch I feel very safe And when you bring the blankets I cover up my face I do Love you I do Love you And when you play guitar I listen to the strings buzz The metal vibrates underneath your fingers And when you crochet I feel mesmerized and proud And I would say I love you But saying it out loud is hard So I won't say it at all And I won't stay very long But you are life I needed all along I think of you as my brother Although that sounds dumb And words are futile devices

Let's try this again!

Futile Devices - Sufjan Stevens

It's been a long, long time Since I've memorized your face It's been four hours now Since I've wandered through your place And when I sleep on your couch I feel very safe And when you bring the blankets I cover up my face

I do Love you I do Love you

And when you play guitar I listen to the strings buzz The metal vibrates underneath your fingers And when you crochet I feel mesmerized and proud

And I would say I love you But saying it out loud is hard So I won't say it at all And I won't stay very long

But you are life I needed all along I think of you as my brother Although that sounds dumb

And words are futile devices

His music goes perfectly with that director's style of film-making.

Jesus FUCKING CHRIST

ENOUGH with the pedo threads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Learned from Alexa today that it's pronounced "Suf-Yan"

She's good like that.

No thoughts on why he kept random things from his own life in a song he wrote specifically for the movie, where the rest of the lyrics are all about Elio and Oliver?

The beauty of the lyrics made me weep.

He contributed two new songs and a reworked old one to a movie about a same sex romance and he was happy to include reference to a famous same sex romance in one of the new songs. The reworked song speaks certainly of a deep love for a man whether or not it’s sexual/romantic.

My understanding is that the artist is very private about his personal romantic life.

Whether or not he has experienced same sex romance or is a gay man, it seems that despite still having a strong emotional Christian affiliation that he developed at Hope College a pretty traditional midwestern Christian School ( Dutch Reform) , he is ok with homosexuality.