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Corbin Fisher, Sean Cody and Other "Straight College Guy" Sites

Are they sort of like Fagin's gang in Oliver Twist, where they find naive but buff guys from small towns, lure them in for a jerk off video and then pressure them to step up their "education" by having them hang out with more experienced models like Dawson who can show them the cars they've bought and how they can still get lots of pussy even though they're gay porn stars, talking up how it actually feels good, that a mouth is a mouth, and downplaying to degree to which their photos and videos are splayed all over the internet.

Corbin Fisher in particular seems to go that route-- jerk off scene, sex with a woman, a bi scene, a blow job from a guy, etc.

Are they putting lots of pressure on these guys and giving them the full court press to get them to stay on and do more?

Or are they mostly a bunch of exhibitionist whores with drug/alcohol/gambling problems who'll do anything for cash and no pressure is necessary?

Talking the higher end studios, not the TimTales and Fraternity X and all that.

by Anonymousreply 165August 3, 2018 7:23 PM

Unrelated. But why does a lot of people like CF's Connor? He's not that good looking imo, not to be rude or anything, and not even the best in fucking too(though I guess he does an okay job at it).

by Anonymousreply 1December 30, 2017 4:26 PM

I don't give them money. It just fuels the idea that a man is not really a man if he only likes men. I download their porn only when I can do it for free. What kind of chump pays for porn anymore?

by Anonymousreply 2December 30, 2017 4:33 PM

Some guys need money and have low self esteem believing they don't get a good job or have any chance for a longterm career so they might make the best of their current good looks and do some porn for some cash.

by Anonymousreply 3December 30, 2017 4:33 PM

I think most DLers would give their left testicle to look like Connor R1

Don't fall into that weird DL trap of basement dwellers finding something to pick on about guys who are 9s and 10s.

Connor may not be your ideal man but he's very handsome and has a killer body and manages to get and stay hard.

by Anonymousreply 4December 30, 2017 4:34 PM

Yes OP most of them are damaged narcissists who only think of money, and then get bent out of shape when folk dare to question their sexualities. Such cheap whores are tedious imo.

by Anonymousreply 5December 30, 2017 4:34 PM

I mentioned that in another thread R2 -- it seems most of the videos are up on MyVidster within a few hours of being posted.

So no idea how the studios stay in business or why someone would pay for a subscription.

by Anonymousreply 6December 30, 2017 4:35 PM

[quote]So no idea how the studios stay in business or why someone would pay for a subscription.

They pimp their talent to the rich, famous, and powerful on the downlow. Duh!

by Anonymousreply 7December 30, 2017 4:39 PM

Still not much money in that R7 given their costs.

Even if they charged $10K for a weekend with one of their stars, they'd have to be booking 4-5 of those a month to cover expenses.

by Anonymousreply 8December 30, 2017 4:42 PM

I saw one Lucas Entertainment video once and while they're interviewing him, he started crying about how hard it is to be a pornstar.

I honestly felt guilty for watching free porn, and I also didnt continue to jack off because of sheer guilt. He just seems like a sweet guy and definitely deserves better in life.

by Anonymousreply 9December 30, 2017 4:42 PM

Sorry about the grammar.

-R9

by Anonymousreply 10December 30, 2017 4:43 PM

It's his first scene with that guy who is Dick Caber's boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 11December 30, 2017 4:44 PM

R4 Do you think Connor is bi?

by Anonymousreply 12December 30, 2017 4:49 PM

I've never really given his sexuality much thought R12

He's married to a female porn star IIRC and had a kid with her.

I think sexuality is a lot more gray than many DLers do. The whole Kinsey scale and all that plus it's often situational.

by Anonymousreply 13December 30, 2017 4:52 PM

The whole binary thing is just tedious here esp. with that stupid "x is straight" troll.

by Anonymousreply 14December 30, 2017 4:56 PM

The problem on DL R14 is that there are so many different definitions of what "bisexual" means

For many DLers anyone who is not a Gold Star Gay is bisexual

While others pick up on the whole "suck one dick and you're gay forever" trope and don't "believe" in bisexuals.

Then there are others who claim that any straight guy who experiments must be "bi." And that experimenting can be a horny 18 year old letting a friend blow him. (Which to some DLers will be proof that the guy is 100% gay.)

Like I said it's all shades of gray and frequently situational and I wish we'd be less black and white about it.

by Anonymousreply 15December 30, 2017 5:05 PM

"All people confident with their sexuality must be turned to bisexuals! Stop being so closed-minded." -R15

by Anonymousreply 16December 30, 2017 5:09 PM

LOL (I think. It's DL after all) R16

by Anonymousreply 17December 30, 2017 5:11 PM

Whatever you thought of them, they've become unwatchable when they were absored by shit producing porn conglomerate MindGeek.

by Anonymousreply 18December 30, 2017 5:31 PM

Scat porn is just disgusting. Whoever gets off to that? I'm honestly scared that some people out there are turned off by poop.

by Anonymousreply 19December 30, 2017 5:35 PM

Turned on* I mean. Jeez! Lol

by Anonymousreply 20December 30, 2017 5:36 PM

R18 - Don't know how much of that is MindGeek, how much is falling profit margins due to streaming piracy and how much is the original owners just cared a whole lot more than some hired hands.

by Anonymousreply 21December 30, 2017 5:36 PM

I like amateur gay porn (not cam shows) i feel it's more sexy and intimate.

by Anonymousreply 22December 30, 2017 5:41 PM

Onky MindGeek cares about MindGeek. The faster they get bankrupt, the better.

by Anonymousreply 23December 30, 2017 5:42 PM

I read an interview with a gay for pay porn actor in Esquire, I think, a number of years ago. He was handsome and very muscular. He did not give his name, not did they have any face pics in the article, so I don't know who the actor was. He said he was recruited at a gym, paid absurd money for a posing video, and then his agent started getting him very lucrative private strip party shows, for women. The guy started enjoying the extra money and the attention. He bought a condo -- he lived with his dad, which i thought was sweet -- and bought an expensive sports car, etc, thinking that the "straight" gigs would keep coming. After he had gone in debt, his promotor pulled the plug on the gigs. The actor started asking for more gigs, because he needed the money at that point, so...the promotor started offering him a strip night at a gay club here, a solo gay porn video there, etc. Pretty soon, he just realized he had to go gay for pay to make his bills. I remember reading that the very first time he bottomed was in a video for Ken Ryker, and he was so ashamed that he left porn. But that's how you do it: you shower the straight guy with money and attention, and they get used to it. You pull the plug, and they will do pretty much anything to get it back. I think it's incredibly sad, and one of the reasons I can't watch porn.

by Anonymousreply 24December 30, 2017 5:51 PM

R24, I read that article years ago. That actor did a number of gay porn films. It was interesting that he was shamed only when he had to bottom for Ryker in a "bi" movie and a girl was in the scene with him. The guys that do it tend to suggest that they were suckered into it but we now know most of them are narcissistic exhibitionists who have criminal records and cannot get better-paying jobs.

by Anonymousreply 25December 30, 2017 6:04 PM

IIRC, CF's Dawson was already into 'fitness' and was making money doing online webcam shows before he was recruited by Corbin Fisher. Quentin Gainz (not working for any of these studios), was a skinny little guy who took up weight-lifting, and his old MySpace photos show him actively posting 'progress' photos as he was trying to beef up. We've talked about the current selfie generation, but people are already putting their sexiest photos out there, online, trying to drum up interest. When people are asked if they'd like to be flown out to San Diego and put up in a hotel, in additional to getting paid various rates for different scenes, I think it can be very gratifying to get that kind of attention.

by Anonymousreply 26December 30, 2017 6:51 PM

[quote]on't know how much of that is MindGeek,

MindGeek owns and runs a lot of tube sites where the clips of competing (gay) porn sites are available for free and it's not that fast to take off those clips that violate copyrights. Of course that changes as soon the site aquired a competing porn site. Then the clips of said site get deleted rather quickly.

by Anonymousreply 27December 30, 2017 7:04 PM

I think Connor is basically straight. I think he’s capable of getting off with other guys, but I don’t think looking at gay porn or the desire to hook up with guys is something that motivates him sexually.

by Anonymousreply 28December 30, 2017 7:15 PM

OP: It really isn't complicated: They are whores.

by Anonymousreply 29December 30, 2017 8:05 PM

R26 Quentin is not straight. He dated Markie More until things got "weird".

by Anonymousreply 30December 30, 2017 8:08 PM

Boo hoo at these "actors" feeling they had to go gay to pay bills. Maybe work in Burger King instead of having a dick up your ass if you are so fragile?!

by Anonymousreply 31December 30, 2017 8:10 PM

R31 The guy on the LE Video is crying because

1. he had to stay single in order to do porn and--

2. --his family didnt accept him being gay(yes he's already gay).

He's basically saying how hard he tries, and then started crying. He just seems too sweet ❤

by Anonymousreply 32December 30, 2017 8:26 PM

I don't know why they get too emotional, people will call you gay because they see you making out with dudes. what they would think if a gay guy have sex with females on camera several times, do you think they would call him gay ?... i dont think so

by Anonymousreply 33December 30, 2017 8:37 PM

Where does Quentin Gainz star in? He sounds familiar.

by Anonymousreply 34December 30, 2017 9:12 PM

I think their escorting fees go up? Like with music stars of today. The days of Michael Jackson getting $4 per album/CD press are no longer. The had to adapt to pirating and music streaming. The news ways of making money are concerts. Really, Taylor Swift is worth $300 for good seats? My daughter paid $700 for 2 tickets to the Fleetwood Mac all 4 present tour. Then there's posters, t-shirts jackets etc. Then the revenue they get from the streaming music providers (iHeartRadio, Google music, iTunes, etc). Porn Stars make their money escorting, fan signings (no longer $5, but some$50 or more). Appearances from clubs that pay them to be there to generate buzz, or stripping, performing. And they don't forget their products to sell... Dildos made in their images, vaginas etc. The successful ones own their market. Providing sex videos is just one part of their branding. They can make a healthy living, if they don't snort it up their noses. Unfortunately, it's a hard knock life.

by Anonymousreply 35December 30, 2017 10:27 PM

r35, music artists make a lot of money on the side with those meet & greet events after the music gig. Fans hand over a lot of cash for a quick encounter with their idol.

I imagine it's the same with porn stars where fans want to meet their idol who is such an amazing performer in their eyes.

by Anonymousreply 36December 30, 2017 10:31 PM

r32 where is this interview video? I couldn't find it on the LE site

by Anonymousreply 37December 30, 2017 10:49 PM

r24 r25 where/when was this Esquire article? Love to read it - is it available online?

by Anonymousreply 38December 30, 2017 10:50 PM

R30, Yes, that's what I've read, too. But just like with Vadim Black, he has a girlfriend who's basically his pimp. They're both from the same area. Markie Moore was one of his first screen partners, who helped break him into the business. But supposedly Markie has a girlfriend, too.

R34, He's done work for both Active Duty and Next Door Studios. Here's a link to his oeuvre.

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by Anonymousreply 39December 30, 2017 10:59 PM

I hooked up with one of CF current models, but only has a few videos. He identifies as straight, is married, and has a few kids. I asked him how he got into the videos. He lives in the deep rural country and was having trouble earning a living. He is a competitive bodybuilder, and someone told him that he could make money escorting by adverting on Back Pages. (I had never heard of Back Pages until he told me this story.) He said he would only meet very few people, but one of his tricks asked if he could send a photo of him to CF, and he did. They liked what they saw, then flew him to California for a "screen test." He said he was reluctant at first, but they treated him so well, and put him up at a great hotel, etc, that he ultimately gave in. He now flies out there a few times a year to shoot a new video, then goes back home where he can get more money escorting because he's known.

I have a friend who can get molly, which is how we connected. I wanted to hook with him in exchange for the drugs, and he was amenable to that. It didn't last long. I could tell that he had no spontaneity when it comes to having sex with men, and was only doing it because I had something he wanted. I can see how he would be ok if he were directed off-camera by someone, but there was obviously no joy in his having sex with men. Once I realized that, I just let him have the molly and told him he could go. He tried to keep the action going out of some professional obligation, but I wasn't interested. So...I do believe some of these guys are straight. They might get used to sucking a man's cock or getting blown or fucking a guy, but they're doing it for money and attention. A bad analogy: I'm a vegetarian, but if someone flew me to SFO and offered to pay me a thousand dollars to eat salmon once, hell, yeah, I would do it. I would hate it, I would probably get sick, but I would still consider myself to be a vegetarian. We all do things outside the realm of how we define ourselves out of greed or necessity, but it doesn't mean we are not still what we are. Ergo, a straight guy could get blown for money out of desperation and need, but it does not make him less straight if that is how he chooses to identify himself, and if the activity is strictly for profit.

by Anonymousreply 40December 31, 2017 1:41 AM

r39, Markie More retired for like a month and then came back proclaiming that he was coming out as actually having some attraction to men and that he would donate a portion of his scene rate to LGBT charities or some such. I have no idea if the donations ever took place. I thought that was so strange, why would a man who has been doing gay porn for years make some big announcement that he is coming out as having some attraction to men? He never 'labeled' himself but he said he was into everything: men/women/trans. Anyway, yes, apparently he has a wife/girlfriend and a kid.

by Anonymousreply 41December 31, 2017 1:47 AM

[quote]They liked what they saw, then flew him to California for a "screen test."

Except Corbin Fisher are based in Las Vegas; the site was previously based in Kansas City. Never California.

by Anonymousreply 42December 31, 2017 1:54 AM

R 40 here. To be honest, I don't remember if it was CF or any of the other sites. I don't pay attention to them, and I had never heard of him until he told me his name on the site and I looked it up. So my apologies. I know it was somewhere in California where they flew him. Perhaps they could be based in LV but shoot in Cal? There are so many of those "straight guy" sites, I do not remember which one it was. Im sorry.

by Anonymousreply 43December 31, 2017 1:57 AM

R40 again here. I went back to my mail folder to find his initial email to me. He's on Sean Cody, wherever they are based. As I said, I never go on those sites, so don't really keep them apart.

by Anonymousreply 44December 31, 2017 2:00 AM

R40 is a woman.

by Anonymousreply 45December 31, 2017 2:49 AM

R34 ActiveDuty and NextDoorStudios

Both studios he did a scene with his ex-boyfriend

by Anonymousreply 46December 31, 2017 2:50 AM

R37 Its an introduction to a porn scene. Wait a sec, I'll try to find it.

by Anonymousreply 47December 31, 2017 2:53 AM

I'm guessing DLs Hardy Boys and Nancy Drews will quickly be able to figure out which Sean Cody bodybuilder R40 is referring to.

You all are pretty adept at figuring out their real names.

Though you are nowhere as creepy as the stalkers on JUB and WayGrande

by Anonymousreply 48December 31, 2017 2:57 AM

R37 Sorry, I messed up. It's actually TOMAS BRAND'S ex-husband, not Dick Caber's husband lol I tend to switch up my daddies in porn 😳😳

The guy who cried was Andy Star.

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by Anonymousreply 49December 31, 2017 3:17 AM

There's a lot of pop-ups going on. I think you should use an adblock

by Anonymousreply 50December 31, 2017 3:19 AM

R40 here. No, I am not a woman. I know the porn actor's real name -- he emailed me using his real email address that had his name in it -- which seems reckless to me -- but I do not recall his porn name. It might ring a bell if I saw it. He's short, so that helps. 5'8 or so. Short dark blond hair. Big dick, but not crazy huge. Nice smile.

by Anonymousreply 51December 31, 2017 3:22 AM

R39 Oh I thought they were exclusively just together and no other else. I wonder whose heart broke whom.

Quentin never really admitted to being at least bi. He always would say that he is straight.

by Anonymousreply 52December 31, 2017 3:22 AM

To help the sleuths out R51-- how bodybuildery is he-- like just a well built guy or a serious body builder muscles (see example below)

How long ago did this all go down-- what year?

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by Anonymousreply 53December 31, 2017 3:29 AM

I'm R49. I dont know if that video was cut but I remember his crying scene was longer than that. I'm not sure tho..

by Anonymousreply 54December 31, 2017 3:29 AM

[quote] [R26] Quentin is not straight. He dated Markie More until things got "weird".

Tell us more. I'd heard Quentin was Str8 and his girlfriend is his manager/pimp. He's got a great body and he's very sexy but he seems very disinterested in gay sex. He mostly bottoms and has difficulty maintaining an erection -- classic gay4pay.

by Anonymousreply 55December 31, 2017 4:14 AM

[quote] [R24] [R25] where/when was this Esquire article? Love to read it - is it available online?

I read it in print. It was a while back. Not sure if it's online.

by Anonymousreply 56December 31, 2017 4:17 AM

R51. I hooked with him about a year ago. He's not a hugely muscled up like a freaky steroid bodybuilder, but he works out a lot and it shows. He tried to be a personal trainer. He might still do it, for all I know.

by Anonymousreply 57December 31, 2017 4:18 AM

R41, R52, I think "Markie" was more experienced, and "Quentin" was just doing his initial exploring. But I've seen some of "Quentin's" social media (he's deleted a bunch of it) and he certainly seemed to have plenty of photos with a girlfriend. He actually grew up a couple of counties away from me, although I don't know if he still lives there (I think he does). Please don't ask me his name, since I've actually seen his MySpace (deleted now, I think) from when he was a skinny teenager.

R55, I agree with you. I think he's pushed passed some of his boundaries, though. In one scene, he was the one breaking in a new guy, and he tells him, "I hope you're a freak like me".

I've mentioned this on some other thread, but when I was living downtown, on Friday and Saturday nights, I'd see cars dropping off young guys, who'd then walk the streets getting picked up. Then hours later, the same cars that dropped them off would return to pick the guys up. They were always driven by women. So I think the male hustler/female pimp explains a lot of the G4P stuff we see.

R42, I think Sean Cody shoots their scenes in San Diego. Corbin Fisher is now based in Las Vegas, but started out in Kansas City, then on to Tampa, before finally moving to Vegas.

by Anonymousreply 58December 31, 2017 5:33 AM

Really? I thought Quentin was very into the gay sex. But I havent watched him for a long time now. Mainly because most Active Duty models have little to no personalities at all.

by Anonymousreply 59December 31, 2017 6:01 AM

R59, I think he's gotten more experienced, and I think the right partner can bring a bit more out of him. But I've found most of his scenes pretty formulaic. I think his scenes for Next Door Studios work better, because there's a bit of acting involved, so I think a director is helping him stay in character. With Active Duty, the performers have to bring their own personalities forward, and that doesn't happen too often. Quentin had a scene with Derrick Dime for Next Door Studios which was pretty hot, where it's supposed to be Quentin seducing his brother-in-law.

by Anonymousreply 60December 31, 2017 6:13 AM

If Andy Star was having sex with someone that was involved with that petri dish Tomas Brand then he had a good reason to cry!

by Anonymousreply 61December 31, 2017 6:22 AM

If Quentin had any personality or sexual charisma he'd be a star. Despite the number of scenes he's done he is still kinda of a porn nobody. I think it's because he can't even feign interest in the deed.

by Anonymousreply 62December 31, 2017 11:44 AM

Short and around 5 ft 8, dark blonde, and a bodybuilder? That's either Nixon or Charles. Charles only ever did one scene however... So that just leaves Nixon...

by Anonymousreply 63December 31, 2017 5:46 PM

What percentage of them have substance addiction problems? Because I could totally see straight guys fucking other dudes for drugs, or for money for drugs.

Just sayin'.

by Anonymousreply 64December 31, 2017 5:57 PM

R40 has posted that same exact story several times on other Corbin Fisher/Sean Cody threads, always stressing the point that the g4p-er in the story is really truly honest-to-god really heterosexual "and I really, really believe him."

Again, I can "Frau" or "Self-Hater."

by Anonymousreply 65December 31, 2017 6:06 PM

I am R40, and I've posted that story just once before in a similar thread, shortly after it happened, because it was relevant to the conversation. And I am not a frau, nor am I self-hating. I had drugs, and they let me sleep with a hot guy who would generally be out of my league. He turned out to be straight. Why is that hard so hard for you to believe? Other people have had experiences you might not have had, but it does not make them not true or suspect. We are here to share stories and experiences. Why disparage mine? If you shut everyone up before they even tell their story, where are we then? What do any of us learn?

by Anonymousreply 66December 31, 2017 7:51 PM

You KEEP repeating the story, desperate for everyone to think that all Sean Cody guys are straight straight straight.

by Anonymousreply 67December 31, 2017 8:07 PM

[quote] You KEEP repeating the story, desperate for everyone to think that all Sean Cody guys are straight straight straight.

I didn't buy it with the cast of [italic]Silver Spoons[/italic] and I'm not buying it here, either.

by Anonymousreply 68December 31, 2017 8:15 PM

I posted the story just once before. I'm sure I'm not the only person who has a similar story to share. And I am also not insisting that all of their models are straight. They are not. And, with that, I am blocking this thread. Why share an experience and add to the conversation when I just get criticized for it? Fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 69December 31, 2017 8:34 PM

Interesting R63

Nixon falls into the category of guys you wonder what lead them to porn.

He's well-spoken in his interviews, has no visible tattoos, the sort of guy you could easily see in some sort of corporate sales job or as a waiter in a high end restaurant.

Nixon was very good looking too, much more traditionally handsome that most of SC's recent models.

I've often wondered what his real deal was but not enough to actually investigate.

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by Anonymousreply 70December 31, 2017 9:23 PM

Didn't Brysen from SC finished college or something?

by Anonymousreply 71December 31, 2017 11:18 PM

Hmmm

by Anonymousreply 72January 1, 2018 4:05 AM
by Anonymousreply 73January 1, 2018 5:59 AM

I joined Straight College Men in November 2005. The fellow who would talk but whose face you never saw was the owner, I guess. He'd do live camming from his home office, I guess. Fair enough. The only problem was that he was fond of spraying something from a can into a cloth and inhaling it and falling over and all you'd see was the desk. The voice was the same, I know it was him. I'm not on any moral high horse, but I was kind of creeped out by this and cancelled my subscription, naming this incident. The site seemed to be unaware it happened and even went so far as to suggest that it never occurred. Stwange...

by Anonymousreply 74January 1, 2018 7:04 AM

Nixon is military now and maybe a Trumpster. Oregon white trash that Lutrell.

by Anonymousreply 75January 1, 2018 7:17 AM

Loved me some early days Rhett from SCM. Sogh.

by Anonymousreply 76January 1, 2018 7:21 AM

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by Anonymousreply 78January 1, 2018 12:40 PM

Hmmm

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She Sells SeaShells by the SeaShaw

by Anonymousreply 80January 1, 2018 12:56 PM

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Kiss number one well slowly,

Sun ends at night?

by Anonymousreply 81January 1, 2018 1:02 PM

I'm R81. Please help. I love him so much 😭😭😭

by Anonymousreply 82January 1, 2018 1:05 PM

Tom Hanks And New Kicks Yield One Umbrella R78

by Anonymousreply 83January 1, 2018 1:09 PM

I'm so stoked. Please help R81. :(

by Anonymousreply 84January 1, 2018 1:11 PM

I haven’t read each reply, but may I make another whiny plea for the current status of SC’s Brody?

by Anonymousreply 85January 1, 2018 1:53 PM

SC's Sean 😩😩

by Anonymousreply 86January 1, 2018 2:08 PM

I think it's pretty much how you described for a lot of them, OP. There has to be some coercion that goes on for a large portion of them. Maybe some bait and switch too. When they are flown out they think it's for straight porn and then are pressured to do gay porn. Some of these guys have got to be naive and from bumfuck USA who think $3000-4000 is a fortune. I can see straight men doing it if they are really desperate like they have kids, a sick/disabled relative or are druggies. What I don't get is the college students that do it. Obviously they want to eventually have a traditional profession/life, so why risk it by doing porn that will never die? I also don't get wives/gfs being ok with it. How bizarre.

I have a question... do these guys work other jobs or is porn their only source of income?

by Anonymousreply 87January 1, 2018 3:00 PM

No one knows the fate of very early Sean Cody guy Dylan?

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by Anonymousreply 88January 1, 2018 3:05 PM

What's scary R88 is he must be close to 40 by now. Those early videos were from 2001, 2002.

Ever since I saw what Billy Brandt wound up looking like, I've not wanted to see how porn stars turned out.

by Anonymousreply 89January 1, 2018 3:12 PM

[quote]When they are flown out they think it's for straight porn and then are pressured to do gay porn.

What studio do you think of does that?

I don't believe that. Most studios have a tight schedule and they don't have the time to coddle some newbie freaking out about gay sex to the point he might draw unwanted attention to the business. Most studios fly in newbies to do a solo. That's it. And when the studio thinks they've got a guy the audience likes to see more of they give the guy the option to do further business with them if he's ok with that and discuss further details (money, and what he is expected to do for it, and filming schedules) and it's up to the model if he wants to take advantage of the studio's offer and come back for more.

by Anonymousreply 90January 1, 2018 3:19 PM

R87-- I think they now they are going to do a jerk off video and maybe they're told the site is for gay men and women. I also think most all of them have a strong exhibitionist streak.

As for what else they do, I suspect it's a mix: some make porn their living, supplementing films with stripping and gay club appearances and of course, escorting.

For others, it's a quick 10K for a few films and they go back to their normal lives. But I too am baffled by how some of them, like one mentioned above who appears to have a girlfriend and is in college and the National Guard (e.g. free college tuition) justify it-- there's a huge difference in perception between guys who do a single jerk off video and those who go on to do everything including bottoming. For many it may also be a way to explore a side of themselves by pretending it's all about money.

I think most of them don't realize that, like they guy Dylan in R87, people will be watching their films and talking about them 15-20 years down the road.

by Anonymousreply 91January 1, 2018 3:20 PM

It's pretty easy to google Sean's (SC) real name. Ben was in MTV's "True Life" documentary series about being a straight guy in gay porn. But fair warning if you've never seen it - watching it will possibly make you not want to watch his scenes again.

by Anonymousreply 92January 1, 2018 3:34 PM

Vadim Black is the one with the pimp girlfriend (Katelin [sp?])

Quentin is allegedly a white supremacist and was a member of some kind of gang back in Ohio.

by Anonymousreply 93January 1, 2018 3:39 PM

Regardless of how many takes are actually required to put these scenes together, a lot of these ostensibly straight guys are cumming while getting fucked. Given how intense that sort of orgasm is, that's got to play with their heads.

Although compartmentalization...

by Anonymousreply 94January 1, 2018 4:02 PM

[quote]I haven’t read each reply, but may I make another whiny plea for the current status of SC’s Brody?

Every Little Item Searched Ends Up Solved. Quickly Uncovered, It's Common Knowledge.

by Anonymousreply 95January 1, 2018 4:21 PM

OHH. FINALLY. Found him, and didnt even have to watch it.

Anyway, there's no way Sean is 100% straight. He admitted to have gay experiences in real life. 3 gay experiences and 1 bi experience. I guess him joining Sean Cody is just to satisfy his thirst for men. I honestly believe he watches SC even prior to his audition.

by Anonymousreply 96January 1, 2018 4:21 PM

Duh. No one thought he is straight

by Anonymousreply 97January 1, 2018 4:23 PM

I do think that there are straight men in gay porn, but Vadim and Sean are not any of them.

by Anonymousreply 98January 1, 2018 4:23 PM

You think strangely dude.

by Anonymousreply 99January 1, 2018 4:25 PM

I didnt watch the video because I'm scared I would fall out of love for Sean.

by Anonymousreply 100January 1, 2018 4:27 PM

Even Brandon from SC, who was supposedly straight, likes a lot of gay porn on his twitter

by Anonymousreply 101January 1, 2018 4:30 PM

I meant "with" not "for"

-R100

by Anonymousreply 102January 1, 2018 4:39 PM

One of the owners of ASG once wrote about the ugly side of the business. I think the post is still somewhere in his blog.

by Anonymousreply 103January 1, 2018 4:43 PM

Whats ASG?

by Anonymousreply 104January 1, 2018 4:52 PM

Amateur Straight Guys R104

(It was a forerunner to SC and CF, same format of getting "straight" guys to have gay sex. They were more upfront about the money part, IIRC.)

by Anonymousreply 105January 1, 2018 7:43 PM

^^ and it's funny the difference that seemed to make.

Sean Cody never mentioned money--it was straight guys doing it because they were "curious" which fed into the fantasy of the gay porn audience and they had a hit

by Anonymousreply 106January 1, 2018 7:44 PM

you’re amazing r95, but i think i meant the bigger one. (and your kindness is appreciated!)

by Anonymousreply 107January 1, 2018 8:51 PM

Oop. Sean cancelled my request 😂😂 Its a dummy account anyway

by Anonymousreply 108January 2, 2018 6:19 AM

[quote]Why is that hard so hard for you to believe? Other people have had experiences you might not have had, but it does not make them not true or suspect. We are here to share stories and experiences. Why disparage mine? If you shut everyone up before they even tell their story, where are we then? What do any of us learn?

Uh...we learn that you’re either full of shit--which everyone suspects--or you’re a needy, evasive asshole. I mean….how hard is it for you to find this guy’s fucking porn name? The sad thing is posters constantly play your “guessing game” when they should be telling YOU to fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 109January 2, 2018 10:33 AM

After watching gay porn for many years, I'm still fascinated how guys (gay, straight, or otherwise) are talked into, or agree without hesitation, the offer to make a commercial gay porn film. I've done a couple of short videos, for personal pleasure, with a few of my fuck buddies. Some we erase after we had a chance to watch ourselves, and a couple of others, I've kept for review later. For me, the more amature the better. Though, surprisingly, my favorite is Payne and Kumar - there is something about those two that is fun to watch.

by Anonymousreply 110January 2, 2018 11:25 AM

A friend made 3 videos for Sean Cody 4 years ago, 1 solo and 2 with other guys. $10K for the 2 weeks he was out there. All the models are given Viagra prior to recording. The majority of the models are straight and when they lose their erections, recording is halted while they're hustled into a room to watch straight porn.

by Anonymousreply 111January 2, 2018 11:42 AM

What's interesting is that you can often tell when a model lets go of his inhibitions and gets into it. Some/most of them look like they can't wait for it to be over, but there are some-- "King" Brandon being a prime example, at least in his early videos-- who really get into the scene and seem to connect with their partner.

Most of them rarely/never make eye contact, so even something as basic as that adds to the sense that the guys are into it and you wonder why they're not directed to do that more often.

Then there's kissing, which is the one "innovation" that Corbin Fisher added-- they had their guys kiss early on (SC quickly followed suit). For some reason this was a huge taboo for G4Pers, and even now when they can get the guys to actually use their tongues it makes the videos that much hotter.

by Anonymousreply 112January 2, 2018 12:16 PM

R112 That's because some of them are not really gay. Its funny that you can still be closeted, even when youre practicing gay sex as a living.

by Anonymousreply 113January 2, 2018 12:51 PM

R113 I meant straight, not gay

by Anonymousreply 114January 2, 2018 12:52 PM

Duh. Of course, they aren’t really straight.

by Anonymousreply 115January 2, 2018 1:20 PM

R111 Nobody makes $10,000 for 3 scenes, unless you’re a top draw like Brandon. Gay for pay porn stars especially lie about the amount they make to downplay what they did.

by Anonymousreply 116January 2, 2018 1:54 PM
by Anonymousreply 117January 3, 2018 9:32 PM

Some of them do seem to be in urgent need of money. The ones that did three or four scenes all coming out consecutively then just disappeared.

by Anonymousreply 118January 4, 2018 3:38 AM

bump

by Anonymousreply 119January 4, 2018 3:43 AM

Didn't one of their "models" get his legs blown off in the war?

by Anonymousreply 120January 4, 2018 3:48 AM

[quote]Quentin had a scene with Derrick Dime for Next Door Studios which was pretty hot, where it's supposed to be Quentin seducing his brother-in-law.

What is Derrick Dime’s deal anyway? Where did he go? Such a pity NDS got rid of BTS footage because that used to be the best part since most of their scenes are so robotic. A new fave is ex-marine Steve Rogers who also seems to connect with his partners.

by Anonymousreply 121January 4, 2018 5:01 AM

If you think about it. Let's say there are 50 million in the US that are hot enough with big enough dicks to do gay porn. Now you got say 3% of those 20 million are gay or bi. That's like 600000 gay men who are hot enough to do gay porn. Then you've got to ask, how many are willing to do gay porn. Let's say it's five percent. That's like 30000 men maybe. Now if you have like .1 percent of straight men who would get fucked on camera. That's like 47000 men maybe who are straight and hot and would be willing to do gay porn. Therefor you would have a bigger pool of straight men who would do gay porn then gay men even tho they straight men were way less likely to do gay porn than gay men.

by Anonymousreply 122January 4, 2018 5:16 AM

r119=moron

by Anonymousreply 123January 4, 2018 7:30 PM

I was going to fault you on your calculation R122-- 50M men, or 25% of the male population seemed pretty high, but then I remembered sites like Tim Tales and maybe it's accurate.

by Anonymousreply 124January 12, 2018 3:00 PM

I suspect your scenario is not that far off OP, that when they get someone hot who can perform, there's something of a full court press on them to get them to stick around.

I've always thought the point of no return for the G4P guys was when they came with another guy's dick inside them.

The orgasm that produces is so intense and frequently so sudden, they probably can't forget it.

by Anonymousreply 125January 12, 2018 3:04 PM

I remember "Dick Dorm" always had a bunch of guys who never participated, just watched, as the "Frat brothers"... including one scene in a huge dining hall with probably 30 or 50 guys sitting at tables, while half a dozen 'pledges' got naked, sucked each other off, and fucked each other while the other guys were chanting.

All seemingly college age.

I've always wondered what the hell was up with all those "extras", how they got into that, what they really thought about being a non-sexual extra in a gay porn scene that would be on the internet forever. How were they cast? How much were they paid?

Anyone remember the scene I'm talking about?

by Anonymousreply 126January 12, 2018 5:21 PM

It wasn't "Dick Dorm", it was "Haze Him". Here's a pic from that scene:

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by Anonymousreply 127January 12, 2018 9:53 PM

Another scene:

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by Anonymousreply 128January 12, 2018 9:59 PM

Another thing: I've noticed lately that the videos from CF, SC and the rest are all up on streaming sites within hours of being posted. In HD and easy to stream.

Not sure how they stay in business.

by Anonymousreply 129January 12, 2018 10:01 PM

R127 They do that a lot though. Even on Sausage Party.

by Anonymousreply 130January 12, 2018 10:01 PM

r130, LOL I was about to mention the Sausage Party clips with the noisy audience set up. But with Sausage Party it gets kind of tedious, because it's always the same strippers (Casey Monroe, for example).

by Anonymousreply 131January 12, 2018 10:07 PM

The 'frat' trend/fad seems to be over... FradPad, FraternityX, HazeHim, DickDorm... most of those sites are fallow now. FraternityX is still doing stuff, but they've clearly changed owners and themes, and it's very different from what it started out as.

by Anonymousreply 132January 13, 2018 2:44 AM

Straight Fraternity was another one.

by Anonymousreply 133January 13, 2018 4:51 AM

Just rewatched that scene... damn it's hot. But I still want to know the behind the scenes making-of story.

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by Anonymousreply 134January 14, 2018 3:13 AM
by Anonymousreply 135January 16, 2018 4:29 PM

YYhm

by Anonymousreply 136March 14, 2018 10:55 AM

I see the idiot thread-bumper is back in action.

by Anonymousreply 137March 14, 2018 3:50 PM

Quentin Gainz started with Active Duty, then became a regular on Nextdoor Studios videos, r34.

He's awesome.

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by Anonymousreply 138March 14, 2018 4:32 PM

Sean Cody's winter cabin orgy was amazingly hot, but the pairings they're doing now are just kind of dull.

by Anonymousreply 139March 17, 2018 11:47 PM

[quote]R24 he just realized he had to go gay for pay to make his bills.

And so, the glorious American Dream sours...

by Anonymousreply 140March 17, 2018 11:54 PM

R120, Yes that was 'Owen' at Sean Cody who lost his legs.

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by Anonymousreply 141March 18, 2018 1:04 AM

I'm totally in love right now with SC's Malcolm. So fucking hot and a great performer.

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by Anonymousreply 142March 18, 2018 2:24 AM

You’re in luck, r142. Malcolm was just in SD late last month, ostensibly filming a new scene or scenes.

by Anonymousreply 143March 18, 2018 2:31 AM

Owen had beautiful legs.

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by Anonymousreply 144March 18, 2018 2:40 AM

Awesome, R143. Thanks. I hope one is with Robbie, one of my other favorite performers from the site.

By the way, does anyone know anything about Mark Long? He's been on NDS for a really long time now and just recently bottomed for only I think the second time. He's always been on the reserved side personality wise but has a huuuge, gorgeous cock and is quite good with it.

by Anonymousreply 145March 18, 2018 2:40 AM

[quote]Quentin is allegedly a white supremacist

I certainly hope that this isn't true, but I really don't understand what draws so many alleged hatemongers to gay porn. Between him, Paul Canon, SC's Potter, and Trumpster Colby Keller, I'm about ready to delete half of my entire porn collection.

by Anonymousreply 146March 18, 2018 2:57 AM

R146 Theres a lot of hotter pornies there. I only habe 1 Porter video amd none of yhe other guys you said. Mainly because Keller's and Canon's work are mainly produced by MEN, which is a fucking terrible site.

by Anonymousreply 147March 18, 2018 3:02 AM

SC's Randy needs only one more scene to tie DL fave Tanner and Curtis for the most scenes. (He has 41, the other two have 42.)

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by Anonymousreply 148March 18, 2018 3:05 AM

[quote]Quentin is allegedly a white supremacist

Seems like a mixed bag, in his case. He's a Trumpster, but also shared this: [quote]There are many reasons why football fans might want to #BoycottNFL – but Colin Kaepernick's national anthem protest shouldn't be one of them.

He's definitely a redneck, though, but one who listens to rap music.

by Anonymousreply 149March 18, 2018 3:22 AM

I'm a new Sean Codier, I must have been missing out on Curtis. The guy's hot AF!!

by Anonymousreply 150March 19, 2018 3:19 AM

Cain is boss

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by Anonymousreply 151April 13, 2018 10:55 AM

Does Ben from True Life still identify as straight?

by Anonymousreply 152April 13, 2018 1:00 PM

Cain was one of the very hottest dudes ever in male porn

by Anonymousreply 153April 13, 2018 2:07 PM
by Anonymousreply 154April 20, 2018 7:44 PM

Doing my part to avoid thread pollution by reviving an old thread, but how do these sites stay in business?

Every scene is up on a streaming site within hours of being posted. (That means no downloading, you just press "play" and the video streams in HD on your laptop or phone.)

Surprised that people are still paying for it.

by Anonymousreply 155June 10, 2018 12:16 AM

r155, it's no different than what's going on with mainstream TV shows, movies, and music. Actual fans financially support the stuff they like / feel passionate about, hence ONLYFANS (that name wasn't chosen by accident).

by Anonymousreply 156June 10, 2018 12:37 AM

Right, but onlyfans is more like YouTube in that it allows individual models to get paid directly.

I'm talking subscriptions to SC, CF, Men.com and the rest

by Anonymousreply 157June 10, 2018 3:27 AM

[quote] I'm talking subscriptions to SC, CF, Men.com and the rest

Clearly you are are not able to grasp the concept of people being passionate about a product, or service, that they are willing to pay for it even when they could get a knock off, for a cheaper price, or can get it for free.

It's those people that keep the lights on at sites like SC, CF, Men.com and produce and release stuff the (real?) fans are willing to pay for.

by Anonymousreply 158June 10, 2018 8:29 AM

So what you're saying is that you work for Sean Cody or Corbin Fisher R158?

by Anonymousreply 159June 10, 2018 6:59 PM

r158, LOL. I don't work for any porn studio. I am just not some sociopath or incel who thinks that I am entitled to get stuff for free and get all high almighty about it.

by Anonymousreply 160June 11, 2018 11:13 AM

Ef you don't mind 'avin' to deal wif Chi Chi LaRue,

It's a foine loife!

by Anonymousreply 161June 11, 2018 11:30 AM

There was a deleted thread last week about a Sean Cody model named J ess.

He seemed to come from a solid family, went to private high school, was still in touch with his parents in the midst of his porn career (which has been going on for 7 years now it seems) and has a long-term girlfriend.

So I'm left wondering why he turned to porn

Gay porn does not pay much, nothing ever leaves the internet, DL posters can easily doxx you... I think it would make a fascinating documentary as to what gets these ostensibly hetero guys to do gay porn. (I'm talking the unlikely ones, the ones who aren't trying to pay off a drug or gambling debt or who have no family to support them.)

There have been episodes of daytime TV shows but they went for the sensationalist angle. I'm talking a talented investigative journalist.

Just something that fascinates me, possibly a few others on DL too.

by Anonymousreply 162August 2, 2018 2:17 AM

SEan Cody lacks a hot Alpha jock

by Anonymousreply 163August 3, 2018 5:57 PM

[quote]r160 ...and get all high almighty about it.

It's [italic]high and mighty.

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by Anonymousreply 164August 3, 2018 6:04 PM

Nice fantasy OP, but they are all gay all the way.

A guy might let a guy blow him, but only a faggot would let it be filmed.

by Anonymousreply 165August 3, 2018 7:23 PM
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