My big fat fabulous life, My 600 lb life, and Jizz Jennings are ALL returning in January!!

Will lard assed Stephen Assanti fall out of a golf cart then act like a beached whale, again? Fingers crossed.

That was unintentional comic gold

So I take it from the jillions of teases on TLC that Jazz is getting very fat?

Will there be a very special episode of My 600lb Life onw which Dr Nazarian(or whatever the fuck it is) does a gastric bypass on Jazz in Houston?

Perhaps they can use parts of her removed innards to make that vagina which her penis is too small to make. Win Win!!

"You can feel the pressure... release."

From he promo it looks like Chubby from Greensboro got dumped before the wedding. Her mother has had too much face work.

She's too embarrassed to walk through the store with a rip in her pants but not too embarrassed to EXPOSE HER ENTIRE LOWER BODY in the freaking parking lot??? My God!

Last season of MBFFL was a disappointment. Too many set-ups, not enough of a health focus for me. I hope the coming season is better.

r1 i just came here to post that! i know it isn’t funny... hee hee hee hee hee

I do like the two gay guys on FABULOUS, Tal and Todd. They should have their own show!

I agree R9. I especially like Todd, the evil gay. What a scheming drama queen!

Jazz is not just fat, but hoarding food!? And mom just glosses over that and thinks when she has bottom surgery, every single thing in her life will magically be resolved.....okay then

The Fitness Marshall fizzled plot/quitting tour on MBFFL must have been a paid ad. Never heard of Fitness Marshall before or since.

Looks like "Avi" is going to be an epic fail!

Just waiting for Jazz's twin brothers to do twin porn.

Oh dear. Looks like no one explained to Jazz how much less one must eat with female hormones plus associated reduction in muscle.

In tonight's episode, Jazz was told that her recent weight gain and binge eating could hinder her getting psychiatrist approval for her surgery. If the doctor thinks that she can't control her eating, the doc may interpret that to mean Jazz is not mature enough to handle the transition process. Of course, the mother pooh-poohed that and painted a rosy picture for Jazz's benefit. Luckily, the dad shut her down with a dose of reality.

Totally obsessed with getting pussy.

Jazz is a typical teenage boy after all.

Jazz’s mother needs a slap on the head. Hard.

Do they just have a great big fat person TV night? When does 90 day Catastrophe come back?

This season's preview of Jazz.

She's not a whale, but she's definitely morphing into that huge Pacific Islander body type.

Who's the bitch that split her pants? Should I be watching her show?

Jazz looked bigger than that tonight. She's a big binge eater, which is more than hormones. What troubles me is she keeps (successfully) dodging therapy. She's very resistant and any doctor treating her should be concerned and not move forward.

Can't he just threaten suicide to be fast tracked to "gender affirmation" surgery? Isn't that how it works?

Or is the delay expanding his scrotum to the size of a grapefruit to harvest enough skin to make a fauxgina?

Btw, is anyone buying the fake storyline of his new girlfriend?

Whitney is even more insufferable this season. WTF was with that scene in the bridal shop and sweaty Whitney sitting on the couch in her underwear? Disgusting.

And the whole Avi drama is eye-roll inducing. The show is even less about health and fitness.

Buddy looks like he is going to die.

Jazz is getting bigger. Is she depressed?

did lard-ass split her pants when she bent over to pick up the cheese or did she fart and blow a hole straight through her shit-encrusted panties and through the material of those "slacks?"

TLC really is the freak show network, isn't it? Trans kids, polygamous Mormons, not just obese people but massively overweight people the size of tractor trailers, Honey BooBoo, gay men married to women.

Whitney makes it seem like she's dating her girlfriend on her instagram, yet always seems to have a boyfriend storyline going on for her show.

The 600 pounders come back tonight. For fans of this kind of programming, TLC is advertising another show featuring an obese family. You know the staff all high-fived the guy who came up with the title"Family by the Ton".

DL "fave" Zinnia Jones is publicizing his appearance on "I Am Jazz" on his Twitter page. Because a misogynistic high-school drop-out who claims to be a scientific researcher while in fact supporting himself by making extreme dildo porn is exactly the kind of mentor Jazz should have right now.

Whitney is a hot mess. Her "jobs" never pan out (the radio station and the ill advised "backup dancer on tour"). Clearly has abandoned even trying to lose any weight, chowing down that pizza on "game night" and having an "ice cream social." I guess she covers her mortgage by renting out bedrooms to ticking time bomb Buddy and newly discovered Asian renter Donna, along with whatever TLC pays her.

I wish they'd interview that black guy who was her trainer last season; he was very empathic but direct with her and even gave ticking time bomb Buddy a shot. She claims her weight is due to polycystic ovary disease, which does cause obesity but certainly not to that extent. It does also cause type II diabetes, metabolic syndrome, sleep apnea, high blood pressure and high cholesterol. She is in her mid thirties now and needs to get these things under some kind of control or we'll be watching Todd and Tal crying at her big fat fabulous funeral. (Come to think of if, they did stage a "funeral" for her last season as a kind of intervention!! Obviously that had no impact!)

That crying to mommy and daddy about her failed internet romance was gag inducing. They need to show her some tough love.

The fact she recently dated a man who likes fat women does not bode well for any kind of healthy living. Perhaps she'll do a crossover with 600 lb life.

So Buddy is in love with her, yes?

I feel so bad for Jazz Jennings. It's awful for his family to parade him on TV like this.

What R29 said. Some of the "mentors" that have appeared on this show to interact with Jazz have had me shaking my head.

So odd to see these college-educated, middle-class parents holding up "mentors" who have led deeply troubled lives as some sort of role model for their kid. They wouldn't do this with their non-trans kids.

R16 I wonder if the publicity surrounding the show will also make doctors leery of taking Jazz on as a patient. It will invite an unwelcome spotlight on their medical practice and they will be forever known as the doc that snipped Jazz.

Whitney's mom seems like such the quintessential Southern Belle, I'm surprised she agreed to be on a reality show.

Her mother apparently modeled when she was young; they showed some of her old photographs once and she was GORGEOUS.

Yes I've seen those pictures R36, she really was.

r31 The show seems to suggest that there is something between Buddy and Whitney but they never seem to go there. And now this season they are making it seem like Heather is Whitney's best friend.

Obviously they re probably setting up a triangle between Whitney, Buddy and Heather.

I really hope the next episode of Whitney and the other fat girl chasing Avi is the last in this Avi saga. It's beyond dull.

Geez I just happened upon an episode of 600 lb life. I could only watch a few minutes. Relentlessly sad.

I looked at Buddy's instagram last year and he barely had any pictures of Whitney on there.

Can't find his instagram now. Pretty sure I clicked into it from his girlfriend's, from what I remember. IDK.

I actually really like Buddy. I think he's actually quite sexy. The problem is he looks like he is going to fall over and die. He really does look unhealthy and I know it's not for the sake of the show.

OMG, is this a fucking joke? Jazz comes in with a green streak in his hair and his parents gasp and ask whether he will maintain it, cause you aren't good at that kind of thing says mom...really? REALLY? Then why the push for the neo vadge? Fuck you Jeanette and henpecked hubby.

R43 He does seem cool. Hope he's okay.

Ha! Now they ANOTHER obese show.....fat families. Dear God.....I’m gonna OD on all these humpers!

something tells me Whitney's got enough shit in her panties to frost a cake!

That podcast tonight with Jazz discussing teens being transed with the "experts" was just dreadful. I see a suicide in approximately 4 years,

I hold her mother completely responsible for this. And I really think Dad is a decent guy, but he hasn't a chance with that bulldozer hideous mother and her mother(who id far less hideous.)

Jazz loses interest when the topic of conversation isn't Jazz, it's hard to watch him practically rolling his eyes when they dare talk about not him. And Noelle needn't worry, he's not as big as Jazz.

R49 Noelle seems reasonably intelligent and mature--I'm struck that the fact that she hasn't always been the cute one and center of attention may have done her some goods, unlike Jazz. It seems clear the older sister stays as far away as she can most of the time. The twins maybe have a single brain between them--Daddy will give them work--they are the Eric and Donald Jr. of the dynasty.

I see ZInnia Jones took a break from shoving traffic cones up his ass to do this show. I certainly wouldn't want to be on a panel with him.

I thought the woman on the phone was very intelligent and every answer she gave was not defensive like Jazz and everyone else.

Jazz looks terrible this season - fat, depressed, lethargic, and looks more manly as the show goes on.

That's the weird thing, R52. Jazz is getting fatter -- and the hormones must help make it worse -- yet more masculine. Usually fat makes you look more feminine.

I thought the therapist was spot on that this weight gain is unconscious sabatoge to getting the surgery

Watching 600 lb life, I have a lot of respect for Dr. Now. He has the difficulty of not enabling, while also encouraging his patients. And they all have significant MH and denial issues. He seems to really care for people who don't care for themselves.

I wish JAZZ would leak a photo of her bubblegum on social media. I’m dying to see it.

[quote]I thought the woman on the phone was very intelligent and every answer she gave was not defensive like Jazz and everyone else.

Same here. She was reasoned and articulate.

The fact is that if one's natural body development would trigger suicide (the claim always made by the Mrs Jazz people) the obvious solution is therapy, not surgery. Because that level of dysphoria is clearly mental illness that is not cured by surgical intervention. It's all very sad. Jazz is so likeable and telegenic.

Uh, Zinnia, you forgot to add "extreme dildo porn producer."

So.... I’m really curious as to the intense dislike/hatred for trans people on DL. I’m just realizing it (being somewhat new). I’m really puzzled as to why. I came here because of the great discussions and modern thinking. Truly perplexed as to why no love for trans people.

Jazz's parents and doctors are monsters and criminals. I keep seeing people online whining about Jazz being bratty and disrespectful to his parents, and it just makes me feel sick and so fucking sorry for that poor boy... practically castrated, robbed of his health and future, and then put on TV, all the disturbing and tragic details of his life exposed and exploited for some money and attention. What does it say about the world we live in that Jaron's depraved, evil parents get to keep their kids, let alone profit off the abuse, laughing all the way to the bank while people who try to talk their kids out of doing immense and irreversible damage to their bodies are put through CPS investigations.

I don't think that there have ever been a significant amount of actual trans DL ers and therefore no knowing or sensitive comments on the subject matter

r59 I couldn't believe Jazz's mother needed her own session. Please.

R60 was in response to r58

luv these poor sows

they make my day.

I Hate that channel

Has Whitney lost ANY weight? Last I checked (a while ago), she only gained more weight, was fearing diabetes, balding, fainting, and her mother was shaving her legs.

The skiing thing was pretty scary - she looked in danger of breaking her ankles.

TLC = Trannies, Lardos and Con-men.

r58 maybe there are a few outright trans-haters but mostly there is discussion here about what the trans movement is claiming and it's implications. Don't forget there are a lot of people who grew up in hateful conservative fund antigay homes (Jazz's friend Noelle comes to mind) and for these people transitioning might be seen as the only way out of being gay.

So gay people who see trans as fixing or erasing the gay have a point.

Bottom line is you can change your appearance and behavior but you can't change your sex. Does that make me a trans hater if i believe that?

[quote]Don't forget there are a lot of people who grew up in hateful conservative fund antigay homes (Jazz's friend Noelle comes to mind) and for these people transitioning might be seen as the only way out of being gay.

That's what I hate about it. If you can see the connection between the two and so can I, then why can't others?

My 300 LB Bitch Life is unwatchable this season. Who cares about Avi?

The drama about the radio show was weird. The Dr. didn’t say there aren’t actual trans people, just that they discourage hormones and surgery pre-puberty since most young people they studied later realized they weren‘t trans. I didn’t get the impression she was anti people transitioning once they hit a certain age, but Jazz was outraged.

Where are the gypsies ??

The dr on the radio show omitted one pertinent fact: 80-ish % of people who thought they were trans turned out to gay people who learned how to accept themselves.

Can someone answer: Doesn't brain maturity only happen well after puberty? So if you suppress puberty don't you prevent full brain maturation? It seems barbaric to keep a kid in a state of perpetual pre-adolescence in order to conform to gender norms. If Jazz had surgery, what happens if they stop the puberty suppression?

We don't know r73, but we're dying to find out for the NEJM! Dr. Mengele had nothing on us!

She drove a mobility scooter through a McDonald's drive thru and then used tongs to wipe her ass. OMG My 600 Pound Life tonight.

What happened with the show about tall girls ?

Dr. Now is really laying down the law with that malingering druggie Steven Assanti! I almost want to email Steven and tell him that if he just loses a few hundred pounds he could become a heroin junkie and save money and time since he wouldn't have to doctor shop anymore.

I was watching an old rerun of Dr Phil where he put a bunch of people in the "Dr Phil House" - racists, homophobes, a white supremacist, and people who hate fat people - and who shows up but Steven Assanti!! Only they called him "John" the whole time. And everybody really hated him too - apparently he stunk the whole place up and they kept telling him he couldn't come into the kitchen until he took a shower.

I am hot for Greg Jennings, Jazz's dad, sexy man!

Isn't there a YouTube video of Steven Assanti eating his own poo?

R79 eeeww

R81 the grandfather also is actually quiet good-looking for an older guy. Is that ewww, too?

^quite

Whitney Thore, years ago:

I don't watch the show but is it true Whitney has some disease which causes her weight problem?

Whitney really wasn't very attractive before she became mega-obese. Slimmer? Absolutely, but fuggo as hell.

I know you can't necessarily trust the editing on reality TV, but they're pushing Jazz on her surgery. She doesn't even have letters from therapists as she doesn't want to seen therapy.

Watching Jazz is so uncomfortable. She looks so depressed.

Jazz, the family and doctors have all confirmed Jazz's depression, yet no therapy, just give us the letters and we'll be on our way.

I agree. This child needs help. The binge eating is a cry for help.

R87 And having Mom's cousin be one of the therapists? That seems a blatant breach of ethics.

So where is ticking time bomb Buddy? In the hospital? Rehab? Shacked up somewhere?

So Jazz had his clownish mother with her ice capade glittery eye shadow, cause a huge stink to get him on the soccer team and now his fat ass doesn't even play? That's fair.

I was hoping somebody here could fill me in on Buddy R91. I couldn't take more than five minutes of the show last night so didn't watch the bit where they went upstairs in the attic. What did they find up there? (I figured it was just a messy room and not much else.)

Does he really live in the attic? It seems it would be stifling as hell up there in the NC humidity.

I am curious about Noelle's story, his parents are split up and he was forced to play football by his dad I think and seemed really happy to burn his uniform. I think he's a gay kid who was trying to rebel against masculine things like football and his mom is loving being his best friend and sticking it to his dad. Poor kid, he's even less feminine than Jazz.

Buddy was found living under one of Whitney’s many fat rolls.

R94, in that banned transgendered documentary, a psychologist (Kenneth Zucker) noted that family dynamics can contribute to a child feeling transgendered. The documentary featured a young single mother whose son felt transgendered. The mother grew up in a traditional family and there was tension around her having a child out of wedlock. Once that was addressed, the boy didn't feel transgendered anymore. Of course trans activists don't want to hear any of this.

R93, they went up to his room and it was spotless, bed made, but it looks like he and his stuff are gone.

Next week's preview showed Whitney talking to a friend of Buddy's and freaking out "oh no! I hope he's ok! I feel terrible!"

My guess would be rehab.

Those appear to be Buddy's parents who are breaking "bad news" to Whitney. I'm thinking rehab too. Buddy worked as a bartender at night, evidently slept all day, and then suddenly realized he was trapped in a reality show and living with a 400 pound woman with three cats and two gay pals.

So I only know about Jazz from thread on DL, and have only seen bits here and there. Last night I caught a few minutes.

One of the brothers expressed resentment that the vacation to the Grand Canyon (and other family things) couldn’t happen because they’re always putting Jazz’s doctor appointments before everything else. Then he parroted a comment that “we’re Jazz’s brothers so of course we will be supportive” (paraphrasing).

It made me really sad for those boys. Apparently they have storylines of some sort, but they’re suffering the way siblings do when one sibling is the star of the Munchhausen-by-proxy’s mom’s show. (Also brings to mind the Hartley Hooligans.)

And the cross-eyed bouffant grandma was a fun surprise.

I think I’ll have to start watching this grease fire.

Also, I know Jazz is a boy, but he really does come across as a girl. A spoiled, confused, JAPpy* girl.

* yes, JAP can be construed as a slur, but it’s widely-used in the Jewish circles of the Upper East Side and CT where I grew up. I’m sure some warrior will come in and say it’s anti-Semitic, but it’s a good description. Jazz looks and acts just like a lot of girls I know IRL. Flame away.

It's not a slur to me and I am pretty JAP-py r100. I think it's funny. I don't think Jazz is jappy though, he's much more entitled male, only a male would constantly bring up biological functions that absolutely no one wants to hear about at every meal and family gathering. He also farts while eating with mixed friends, no girl would do that. I look forward to him getting his bottom surgery and then entreating people to smell his fingers.

R101, thanks. Since I’ll be watching from now on, I’ll keep your observations in mind. He certainly seems spoiled. How did I miss this one?

Whitney was cool, had the cute man with beard and glasses. He was quite fuckable. Haven't watched in awhile. watched some last night. Who is Avi and his fat chick fetish. Was hoping the fat Egyptian would die on the nature trail. Her gay friend is cute, but a complete nelly. Whitney just seem self centered, always running her lard ass around in that inappropriate 2 piece, with fat rolls. I had to turn it off.

Thanks R97 & R98. I suppose maybe breaking up with his girlfriend probably drove him deeper into drinking. He seemed really happy with her on Instagram when I lurked a year ago.

still say Whitney has enough shit in her panties to frost a cake!

I just watched the latest My 600 Pound Life. I know she said he used to have a drug problem, but she got lucky with that boyfriend who didn't mind that she was over 600 pounds. It was kind of a boring episode though because she was decent.

It's exhausting!

Now Jazz is interested in a girl, so maybe is she hetero?

What about Sister Wives?

Sister Wives is boring with all the wedding stuff. But fat Tony does make me laugh, he is a grifter so he's perfect for that clan.

I like Sister Wives. I like how they're all miserable and sabotaging each other and they all hate the husband and they never even spend time with one another except to film and they can't even go on vacation without a therapist shadowing them but they all still claim this is a wonderful life and they never would have chosen anything else. The psychodynamics are fascinating to me.

I love to hate Sister Wives, what a total cunt Sobbin is and wet bar Meri just let her in to wreck the family! Tony is awesome, they will have ten tacos each at their fat wedding. This page is my favorite SW thing. Be sure to check out their shitty jewelry on my sister wive's closet site.

Whitney's dramatic dance was hysterical. She was lucky enough to fit in that room and flail her arm round.

Buddy's a coke head!

Not Buddy stealing the show from Whitney! Literally the only interesting thing to happen this season.

So Buddy's a coke head and has gone to rehab. Between him and Whitney, all they need to do now is change the show's name to My Big Fat Exploding Heart!

I'm surprised Whitney is so averse to exercise because according to her pictures she was pretty active and athletic at least through college. She seems like somebody who let herself go, but okay, she's re-found being fit and now has a goal to run a half marathon or something like that.

I did think it was pretty funny when she was saying it's not exactly like she carries the skill of running a 5K around in her back pocket and can whip it out any time as party entertainment!

Last season both she and ticking time bomb Buddy were working with a trainer, a VERY nice black guy who was more than patient with both of them. Buddy crapped out pretty early, and the trainer caught Whitney eating donuts and fast food in her car. But she apologized and he took her back, and in the last episode she was shown running up a staircase at the outside of some office building. Clearly she has now abandoned all efforts; her dad, who I really like, made some vague reference, saying "Whitney doesn't have a trainer any more," which is why he offered her the Hawaii trip if she does the 5K. Good for him!

r118 yeah I liked the trainer. But I hated it when he caved when Whiney - I mean, Whitney - whined and cried. He should have left her fat ass and let her come crawling back to him.

I wonder if the producers decided to get rid of him or he thought it was bad for business allowing lazy Whitney to walk all over him and he just doesn't condone her lifestyle at all.

Jazz is too fat to get bottom surgery!

The doctor says she has to lose 30 pounds!

Tonight's episode Jazz went to a hypnotherapist so she can stop binge eating.

Also, she decided she wanted to go to online high school because she doesn't have any friends at school and this way, she can just get her credits and be done with it. Her parents agreed since it was what she wanted.

Jazz wants quick fixes and not address her underlying issues. I'm really disappointed there are no adults helping

And what about his therapist letter? No headway on that I'm sure. Slapping on 40 pounds in a year is not a sign on a healthy psyche.

Is Dr. Now going to give Jazz the gasatric bypass? And then yell at her and tell her she's going to die like he always does, in that filthy shit-hole strip mall "doctor's office?"

r123 LMAO

I think Dr. Now"s office looks like a car dealership

Tell me about your eating habits.

Dr. Now wouldn't touch this, he's not too big on super co-dependent people and the minute Jeanette kept talking over them he'd be done.

I don't give a fuck about the fat girl Whitney's coke addict friend, Buddy.

What shrinks are going to put their rep on the line and give Jazz the needed psych letters?

Yeah that too r129, and who would give the sex change? I feel like Bowers doesn't want to do it.

Dr. Now is in the same strip mall as "Better Call Saul"

I wonder if being exposed to hours of Jazz's home life and behavior has made any of these gender doctors second guess themselves.

I always wonder where is the closest KFC to Dr. Now's office. You know there's once close by.

It's not golf carting distance r133.

There must be a drive thru burger place near Dr. Now's office or the hospital because they have shown people on the show getting a burger afterwards. Still LOL at the woman taking a mobility scooter through the McDonalds drive thru.

Jazz' tranny friend asked when she was little, "mom, can I go back to god and change suits?" How cute and heartwarming, that's an even better story than Jazz asking when the good fairy would come and change his penis into a vagina.

Jazz under hypnosis (as a boy named "Cal") reports being rejected by her family for being gay.

And she said on a date with a girl she is emotionally attracted to girls but physically attracted to boys.

R130 that's Dr. MARCY Bowers to you good sir!

I felt so bad for those hot men in Hawaii who had to pretend to like that beached whale Whitney.

She's so entitled.

LOL @ Jazz - the family is in an uproar over a tattoo but nobody bats an eyelash re: her surgery.

Well they are Jewish is why they are anti-tattoo, that's why the grandpa is so irritated. I love that one of the twins said, "I could never get a tattoo but Jazz gets what Jazz wants." So true. Greg seemed kinda pissed too when Jeanette said she signed the form for both of them.

Greg was rightfully pissed. And learning about the scheduled surgery at the same time as anyone else? I'm surprised their marriage has lasted. It appears he is prepared to not sign off on the surgery and made valid points about Jazz needing to stick to school, diet, etc. The fact the doc was pushing surgery after only a 10lb weight loss was disappointing. Jazz has not demonstrated long-term change.

But Greg and his wife need to parent Jazz. I guess I'm showing my old age, but I think it's a bad idea to let a 17 yo get a permanent tattoo. Jazz seemed pretty nonchalant about it like it was a fun thing to do.

Jazz only lost 6 pounds more in 2 months, he's not real motivated or serious I don't think. I notice Victoria wasn't mentioned in the update.

When will Jazz premiere her hot new song “My Bubblegum”???

Whitney is such a fucking drama queen.

Buddy was lucky. Hopefully he can maintain his sobriety. Unlike that hot mess Ryan on TEEN MOM, who is addled out of his brain.

Jesus Fucking Christ can that fat bitch Yelp and Moan just from walking.

Those scenes of Todd rubbing that cream into her ass or vagina or whatever and gagging the whole time were INSANE.

....

Zinnia is now complaining that she was badly edited on Jazz's show.