Dustin Hoffman Accused of Exposing Himself to a Minor, Assaulting Two Women

[quote]Kester said that she made an effort not to react for fear that her boyfriend or the other man in the control room would know what was happening. She estimated that Hoffman kept his fingers inside her for 15-20 seconds, until he finished the take. Then she moved away from him.

[quote]“He kind of laughed,” she said. “Then I just ran out of there, and I sat in the bathroom crying. I thought, ‘Oh my God.’ I felt like I’d been raped. There was no warning. I didn’t know he would do that.”

Oh no, OP! I had just hit post on the same article when yours popped up. But you were first.

R2 Ha! I thought it was weird that someone hadn't made a thread yet.

"Dustin Hoffman Accused of Exposing Himself"

I was simply showing them my Tootsie Role.

What is it with these older guys and pussy grabbing, anyway? Was that a thing once?

WOW just wow !!

Well at least the mystery of his career as a leading man has been solved. Not good looking, no great personality but he was a good predator who knew how to network with other predators.

[quote] he was a good predator who knew how to network with other predators.

You may be right.

Please, R7, come back to planet Earth. Hoffman is one of the all time greatest actors who ever lived. That's how he made it. Some of you people are truly insane.

Why can’t we even stick to the topic at hand, why must there always be either an R7 or an anti-Semite? (Or both)

Right on, R9. And Charlie Rose and Matt Lauer were giants, too!

This stuff doesn't surprise me at all. Not at all. Wealthy and/or famous men do this kind of thing. It's commonplace. And what could a woman (or child) do about it? Not much. The guy had all the power; everything was always swept under the rug. It's so great that these nasty guys are being exposed now. As for Dustin Hoffman...well, he'a great actor. And a nasty pervy creep.

He was an "okay" actor puffed up by the same industry rags that worked on behalf of the likes of Weinstein.

No he was really a popular actor.

When I was young the girls were really crazy about him. Enormous charisma.

Not puffed up at all.

He was the real thing.

What choice did the girls have if he was what they were promoting, R14? He'd hardly be the first choice if women had a say in picking these male stars.

That happened on the set of Ishtar?! Damn, that production was even more cursed than we thought.

I think Hoffman used to be a great actor but hasn't been in a good movie since 1982. He's been stuck doing the annoying 'angry old Jew' act ever since then.

Oops, I meant R8, not R7.

Meryl Streep will lead the Golden Globes protest against Dustin and Harvey and the rest.

Women are banding together at the Golden Globes.

Many female celebrities, including nominees and presenters, are planning to wear black to protest the ongoing issues plaguing Hollywood, from gender inequality to sexual harassment and sexual abuse.

Thank goodness Meryl is so work!

I'm more disturbed about all the foot rubs these women had to give these gross old men.

They are so full of shit.

They should be so mocked.

R20 Who? The victims or the predators?

Not necessarily r18 -- Meryl's picture is on the article but she is not mentioned as being one of the protesters.

If she is, it'll make mainstream news, considering her work with Hoffman. Page Six is just making implications to get clicks.

WTF is "so work?"

R23 He probably meant "so woke".

WTF is "so woke?"

r8, Hillary isn't a predator.....but your idol Trump is.

[quote][bold]Woke[/bold] is a political term of black origin which refers to a perceived awareness of issues concerning social justice and racial justice. It is derived from the African American Vernacular English expression "stay woke", whose grammatical aspect refers to a continuing awareness of these issues. Its widespread use since 2014 is a result of the Black Lives Matter movement.

[quote]Oxford Dictionaries records early politically conscious usage in 1962 in the article "If You're Woke You Dig It" by William Melvin Kelley in The New York Times

"Hasn't been in a good movie since 1982..." Please. Start with "Wag the Dog" and go up to his latest on NETFLIX with Sandler and Stiller. He's still great, always was. I swear, I feel like sometimes I am discussing film on these threads with Garage Sale Moms. In Des Moines.

If you don't think Hoffman is a great actor, you sure as shit don't know about the movie business.

R24 'Woke' is NOT an adjectival substitute for 'Awake'

R29 It's a political term which is intentionally used that way. Has nothing to do with being literate or not.

R30 It's not a useful political term if it can't communicate what you want to say without having a 5 minute long digression discussing grammar and illiteracy

R31 I haven't seen anyone raise those points before. I guess everyone who uses it on Twitter and elsewhere can spare that one minute to google the term.

he shoulda kept walking......

Woman are going to overtake these positions of power. Over 4000 women have signed up to run for political office.

You white guy's with your white privilege thought the people of color were your problem, and voted for Trump (uh, how many accusers????) to deport, and kept out. The new world order: the 51% of our population, who don't act like lechers, will become your boss and your candidate. And you know what? There will be less chaos.

[quote] Trump (uh, how many accusers????)

As many as Lisa Bloom and Hillary could buy.

California lawyer Lisa Bloom’s efforts included offering to sell alleged victims’ stories to TV outlets in return for a commission for herself, arranging a donor to pay off one Trump accuser’s mortgage and attempting to secure a six-figure payment for another woman who ultimately declined to come forward after being offered as much as $750,000, the clients told The Hill.

The women’s accounts were chronicled in contemporaneous contractual documents, emails and text messages reviewed by The Hill, including an exchange of texts between one woman and Bloom that suggested political action committees supporting Hillary Clinton were contacted during the effort.

POPBITCH BL:

There's a scene in the 2009 documentary Starsuckers where director Chris Atkins covertly filmed Max Clifford talking about the many services he's provided to celebrity clients over the years. As Atkins is currently in jail (and Clifford is currently somewhere between jail and the ground) we should maybe take this as an omen not to get involved, but: there's one section where Clifford boasts about how, for ten years, he was retained by a famous A-list actor.

This actor's particular thing was (in Clifford's words) "groping and whatever in the back-row of a cinema where his movies are on". So Clifford would see to it that every seat in the cinema surrounding this actor would be filled with his own people, so as to keep any back-row 'incidents' contained.

The actor's name was redacted in the documentary – but anyone who thought it was inappropriate for John Oliver to bring the topic up at a recent Q&A screening may wish to reconsider that position.

r35, none of that means the accusers were lying. Try again.

[quote]It's so great that these nasty guys are being exposed now.

If it’s so great what’s the problem with what Hoffman did?

You have to wonder what going through his fucking head when he walks out of the shower and exposes himself to a sixteen year old.

Here’s this little old potbellied Jewish guy (and no I’m not the “the Jews” troll), thinking ... what exactly? “Oh yeah this nubile bit of teen flesh is going to get all HAWT for the Dustman. She’ll be begging for mah dick any second now!”

PATHETIC.

[quote] Oh yeah this nubile bit of teen flesh is going to get all HAWT for the Dustman. She’ll be begging for mah dick any second now!”

Why not? It worked on Terri Garr.

[quote] You have to wonder what going through his fucking head when he walks out of the shower and exposes himself to a sixteen year old.

Did he know she was there? Why was she in his room at that time?

These "memories" are beginning to sound exaggerated or fabricated.

r41, did you even read the account? It seems perfectly believable to me.

[quote]Here’s this little old potbellied Jewish guy (and no I’m not the “the Jews” troll), thinking ... what exactly?

He doesn’t give a shit what his victims think/feel/want. He sees them as objects with which he can fondle or do whatever he pleases because he has power. And because they, as decent people, are not going to suspect he’d ever be so brazen so he can take them by surprise and leave them too stunned and humiliated and confused to react or make a scene. Abusers have a knack for choosing good victims too, and Hollywood grooms good victims.

He is a freaky foot fetishist

Hoffmann is only five foot tall.

These women had so choice.

They chose the part.

I remember when this idiot criticized Germany for "shameful pattern of organized persecution" of scientology, and drawing parallels between today's Germany and Nazi Germany.

[quote]Hoffmann is only five foot tall.

Passive aggressive attitude towards women is very common among midget sized men.

Dustin Hoffman is an American hero, and a national treasure.

This one surprised me. I’ve never read anything negative about him at all over the years.

Neither have I R50, though I’ve heard a lot about his outrageous sense of humor. In retrospect that probably worked as a cover for his shenanigans. “Oh you must have misunderstood—that’s just Dustin being funny!” I like him as an actor, but these stories are really fucked up.

Why are these guys always exposing themselves to the wrong people?

"These women had so choice."

Women? Some of them were as young as 15.

HDNet Movies is scheduled to air "The Graduate" next Friday (Dec. 22). Probably won't make it to airtime.

I admit, there may be degrees of these incidents. I watched one of accusers of Al Franken, Tina Dupuy, being interviewed on CNN by Alisyn Camerota. Ms Dupuy came on to make the point that she felt how inappropriate Al Franken's Senate resignation speech was with regards she felt he did not take real blame, and no credence to the victims. However, Alisyn does question about Ms Dupuy's personal experience with Al. Her experience was: she was taking a picture with Al, and he put his arm around her waste and squeezed her fatty fleshy side, which made her feel humiliated, as she had put on some weight. It seemed to have affected her deeply, psychologically. I had a similar experience in the 80's from gay cocktail waiter. It stung. I remember it to this day. This is a far cry from assault.

Oh no Dustin. You always seemed charming. I guess that is a common trait for narcissist pigs. 🧟‍♂️

Good fuck people. Sucking as a person doesn't negate talent. He is one of the greats. Obviously not the best person in the world. But he was a gifted actor. I hate hearing this about him. But I believe it.

If only Hitler had been a talented painter.

Ugh, I feel similar to [R57] about this ☹️

I believe these awful stories about Hoffman’s personal behavior (as there does seem to be a real pattern and ring of truth to them) but at the same time it makes me so sad to hear because I *love* so many of his films and have admired much of his work.

I think it’s terrible what he allegedly did to these teen girls and women and I find his behavior (if true) shocking and disgusting.

What do you do as a fan of the work he’s done and the films he’s been in though (often alongside other hugely talented people)?

Do you just never watch any of his films again or try to erase his work from history? As a huge film fan this is upsetting on many levels and big conundrum....

He is OVER. It's amazing how many people will defend a pig like this just because you liked a MOVIE. what a bunch of gullible saps you are. He's not the greatest anything. Greats don't do that shit.

Hollywood has always been smoke and mirrors. The public know the actors aren't always as nice or sweet as they appear on talk shows, but some actors are clearly pretending to be someone else altogether. I'd always heard Hoffman was an asshole, but them I'd watch an interview, he seemed so affable, goofy, and easily amused, it was hard to imagine the huge ego people talked about or that he was a difficult person. I figured he'd occasionally put his foot down about a scene or go annoyingly method which aggravated the other actors, but probably wasn't utterly terrible to work with. He certainly didn't come across as a complete prick. And now it turns out he was much worse.

Some of these guys have really surprised me. Cosby was always full of himself but I never would have predicted he'd turn out to be a serial rapist. Tambor surprised me too, he came across as decent. I'd heard Lauer was a serial philanderer, but didn't suspect a sexual predator.

Maybe I'm just a bad judge of character.

I'm glad John Oliver confronted him and Hoffman fought back like the arrogant idiot he is. Oliver was the one who showed clips of Charlie Rose being super-creepy with his co-hosts way before this #MeToo movement started. He was on to something.

Michael Rapaport and Ron Perlman must be feeling nervous right now after having attacked Oliver for confronting Hoffman. Makes me wonder what kind of sick shit those two are hiding because it's clear by now that pigs will cover for pigs.

R31 is fucking hilarious. Try getting out once in a while, dear. Mingle with “the people.” You could learn something.

“He’s one of the greats.” So what? He’s also a rapist and a sex predator. Talent doesn’t make you a good person. It just makes you a lucky one. Either way, he is not worthy of special adulation. He is a good actor, but he’s also a guy who tricked his daughter’s teen-aged high school classmate into a nude foot massage alone in a hotel room with him, among other, worse transgressions.

He’s a fucking pig and I have zero respect for him now. Bye, Dustin. Go away, count your money, and stay away from school girls.

I also see the “he’s one of the greats” argument as one of deep narcissism. He brought trauma and suffering to many women but he entertained [italic]you[/italic] on screen and on stage and that's the only thing that matters in the world, right?

He's a good actor but IMO, he's not that great. I thought Kevin Spacey was more talented. But who care about great talent if you are a rapist.

R63 Rapaport is a rapist, at least according to Kevin Smith. Supposedly he raped Joey Lauren Adams.

Funny thing about those 'great' movies he's in - they don't stand up while his performances are hammy and schticky. I especially hate Straw Dogs. He'll be relegated to the dustbin after another 20 years.

Lili Taylor had Michael Rapaport charged with harassment which he pled guilty to. I think he was actually stalking her. Very messy and fucked up.

I hope he washed his hands first.

Sick fuck

Has Debra gotten around to renouncing her lust for Dustin ? Sounds like she might have been implicated.

"I also see the “he’s one of the greats” argument as one of deep narcissism. He brought trauma and suffering to many women but he entertained you on screen and on stage and that's the only thing that matters in the world, right?"

Right

This is probably just the tip of the iceberg. If we could see what happens behind closed doors in Hollywood and other places of male dominance we would be completely shocked.

[quote]Maybe I'm just a bad judge of character.

Not necessarily.

You didn't know these people, as much as you may think you did. You only knew their public persona, and/or the characters they portrayed. It's a relatively common mistake for the general public to think they know a public figure.

Had you even known anyone who knew, or even had worked, with Cosby, you would have known about his predatory ways. I know an actress who guest starred in his show for one episode, and she had to fight him off (successfully, thank God).

R75 Learn how to quote, creep.

"This is probably just the tip of the iceberg. If we could see what happens behind closed doors in Hollywood and other places of male dominance we would be completely shocked."

I think most people wouldn't be shocked; they can imagine what goes one. Completely disgusted, but not shocked.

Basically if you're a white male, you're a target. This has been in the making for a while now.

Don't sexually assault/rape women and kids and you won't be a "target," R80. It's not fucking rocket science.

Of course, all the fans think he's innocent. They don't want anything to get in the way of their enjoyment. That's all that counts right? Their enjoyment. Their entertainment.

I believe these women simply from reading about Meryl Streep's encounter with Hoffman way back in the 70s. Dustin Hoffman actually apologised to Streep over the incident. (Why apologise if you've done nothing?)

The ones you wish would expose themselves to you never do.

"Basically if you're a white male, you're a target."

Maybe you didn't pay attention to the allegations against Russell Simmons, who definitely isn't white. You sound like a Trumpster, claiming white people are victims.

I think Hoffman is a disgusting self-righteous creep. It's funny when John Oliver accused him and he ranted back at him, denying everything. He didn't just touch a breast, he put his fingers in some teenager's vagina. He is someone that should have his Oscar taken away.

You sound like a racist yourself R84.

r86, how am I a racist? For calling you out on your white victimhood crap? For accurately pointing out that non-white men have been accused of abuse?

You sound dumb.

When I read the title, I temporarily forgot who Dustin Hoffman is, and thought it was Tom Daley's boyfriend. My heart stopped. I thought, "Wow, how embarrassing for us gays, this guy exposed himself to a minor and assaulted two women, proving right not just one but two anti-gay stereotypes, the pedophile and the misogynist." And even worse, I thought to myself, "Well, it makes sense since Tom is so much younger than he is."

Meryl Streep's friends with the racist Emma Thompson.

[quote]Of course, all the fans think he's innocent. They don't want anything to get in the way of their enjoyment. That's all that counts right? Their enjoyment. Their entertainment.

So I guess you don’t use a smartphone then. You don’t want to think about the Vietnamese slaves making your phone, sometimes locked in the factory at night, half-starved, a fate a thousand times worse than some wealthy blonde teenager seeing a small Jewish penis.

You don't want anything to get in the way of your enjoyment. That's all that counts right? Your enjoyment. Your entertainment.

He's disgusting

Ha!

Jewish penises are not small especially on short cute jews and hallelujah God they are cut.

DL.

It always comes back to dick.

"So I guess you don’t use a smartphone then. "

And you don't?

r90, that poster isn't accusing the Vietnamese slaves of being liars, so how is that the same situation?

R94 and R95...really?

And really, right back at you, r96. You and you're "what about-ism." Nobody can be held accountable for anything if someone else has done something wrong. Really? That's why I dinged you for having a smartphone, not just because it's highly likely that your "virtue signalling" (as the right is fond of calling it) is as false as the equivalency you tried to make.

I can see Dustin Hoffman doing this, Jon Voight, not but Dustin yes.

Is Jon Voight gay like his daughter?

No, Voight does bite men though.

[quote]a fate a thousand times worse than some wealthy blonde teenager seeing a small Jewish penis.

R90 Leaving your whataboutery aside, he fingered (digitally raped, really) two women that we know of, while both of them were performing and so couldn't escape. That's pretty fucking unprofessional and vile, Vietnamese slaves or no Vietnamese slaves. And I don't know about you, but I have enough cognitive capacity to be able to get outraged and do something about both of those issues.

Hoffman and the others must be praying the stuff about Nicholson comes out, so it can blow their creepy behaviour out of the water

[quote] Is Jon Voight gay like his daughter?

Which one, Angelina Jolie or Ricky Schroder?

[quote] Dustin Hoffman actually apologised to Streep over the incident. (Why apologise if you've done nothing?)

Now this just shows an amazing lack of experience. I can't take a poster like ths seriously.

Dustin Hoffman is one of the most overrated and boring people, and actors. While he puts on a great mask when he's in front of the camera or being interviewed in his personal life he's a total cunt to people who work with him, assistants, etc. and believes that the world revolves around him.

R92, circumcision decreases penis size and circumference, and it is genital mutilation. Eastern European Jewish men like Hoffman are ugly and are the definition of a Jewish American Prince.

So he's actually bisexual and mostly gay now. He grows pot in his backyard at his place on Mulholland. I think if he came out as bisexual and exclusively seeing men now, the pressure might ease and people might back off for his past stuff.

Fun fact: In 1970s, the Weather Underground accidentally blew up a townhouse in Greenwich Village. Dustin Hoffman lived in the townhouse next door.

I imagine that DH is like his role in 2003's 'Confidence' where he's "bisexual" but really, really into men.

He was great in that role! Totally believable!

He *IS* a method actor. Thank goodness he didn't play Jake's role in Brokeback Mountain.

What a pathetic piece of shit.

Can you not just see this ugly, little twerp on the set of Ishtar - costarring with one of the most handsome men to ever grace a movie screen, who also has a reputation of bedding any female he wants - as he oozes envy and inadequacy from every pore?

I can totally see him doing this because he's a manipulative person. If you watch the dvd extras of Kramer vs Kramer, he talks about how he got the little kid to cry for a scene, totally using his method acting to get into the kid's head.

"So he's actually bisexual and mostly gay now."

Says who? I've never heard any believable gossip about him being family (not even on the datalounge where everyone is gay)

No! Dammit. My favorite actor, too.

R112, yeah it's one of those things that no one talks about. He's very discreet. He was obsessed with a friend of mine - he called from Gladstone's in Malibu a couple years ago while my friend and I were in his car. I heard it on speaker. He kept saying how he was with some pretty girls and he should come over. That's the least of it. He likes muscular guys in their 20s. Blonds.

When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.

OMG he's a Spacey Cadet!

r110 Warren was a jackass too

Yeah. We know, R117.

But does his penis stink?

[quote]So he's actually bisexual and mostly gay now. He grows pot in his backyard at his place on Mulholland. I think if he came out as bisexual and exclusively seeing men now, the pressure might ease and people might back off for his past stuff.

Is he really bisexual? Or did he just play a bisexual man in a film as someone else posted about? Does he use other drugs besides herb, like hard drugs like coke?

R120, I've only heard about coke - he has lots of it supposedly. Just on the coffee table or wherever. I've only heard about the pot in the backyard and coke. And he's bisexual in real life but mostly gay now in terms of who he's seeing (younger guys, of course). My friend has pics from his home, one of which includes the back of his head at his pool. One of his guest bathrooms is cream-colored marble and gold leaf on the mirror. Very ornate. This is the Mulholland house.

R121 Thanks for the info.

Mostly gay, or mostly straight is just another term for being bisexual. Anyway, wasn't he married to a woman for decades? Or isn't he still married apparently? I would not be surprised if he's into coke as it's that common and popular. Is your friend kept by him?

LOL, he's not gay. Stop trying to make this creep gay, we don't want him on the team, anyway.

R123, I don't even know if he's actually bisexual? He's certainly creepy and his behavior towards women is typical of Jewish men.

Of course if he was not famous, he would have been put into a sex offenders program or jail but he got away with it since he's famous, and non Jewish stars like Nicholson and Warren Beatty did tons of crazy and sick stuff and not just lots of drugs, that was very well known even in the 70s and 80s.

He was married, and has a daughter. Howard Stern has alluded to this before; apparently people in entertainment totally know he's bisexual/gay now.

I'll find out more from my friend next time I see him. We don't see each other much because he's busy "modeling" and is a flake.

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Wow!

Did anything ever come out of these allegations? Did Hoffman buy himself out of it?