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Walking Dead Actor's Father Lashes Out After Character Death: "I Never Trusted AMC"

The Walking Dead's most recent season eight episode, "How It's Gotta Be," delivers the tragic twist to end all twists in its final few minutes, and pretty much no one is happy about it. After a tense hour which sees Carl Grimes (Chandler Riggs) heroically attempting to save Alexandria from Negan's wrath, it's revealed that Rick's teenage son has been bitten by a walker. The bite is on his ribs and most certainly fatal, which left not only fans shocked and outraged, but also Riggs's father, William.

Yes, Carl has long been a fan favorite to hate on (whether in jest or for real), but he's also the only original series regular other than Andrew Lincoln (who plays Rick); we've quite literally seen him grow up before our eyes, and his exit is both a sad and confusing one. William Riggs took to his Facebook page in a now-deleted post following the midseason finale to shed some light (and spill some tea) on the situation, cluing his followers into what allegedly went down behind the scenes. Apparently it wasn't pretty.

"Watching [showrunner Scott] Gimple fire my son 2 weeks before his 18th birthday after telling him they wanted him for the next 3 years was disappointing," Riggs's dad wrote "I never trusted Gimple or AMC but Chandler did. I know how much it hurt him. But we do absolutely know how lucky we have been to be a part of it all and appreciate all the love from fans all these years!"

At the same time his father was dropping truth bombs on Facebook, Riggs opened up about his character's exit to The Hollywood Reporter. In addition to confirming that Carl is not long for this world ("Yes, Carl is going to die"), what he had to say about the reasoning behind Carl's death seems to corroborate his father's comment.

[quote] "I'm taking a gap year right now to focus on acting for a while. Leaving Walking Dead wasn't my decision. It was all story related. It made sense story-wise for it to happen for Rick and Michonne and all the other characters . . . I was planning on going to college until I found out. I found out when I was doing rehearsals for episode six back in June. It was quite the shocker for me, Andy and everyone because I don't think anyone saw it coming. It's definitely not a bad thing because it has been awesome being on the show but now I get to go and do a lot of other stuff that I haven't gotten to do before. Scott wanted to meet in person because it was such a big deal. We had just finished rehearsing for a scene in episode six and he wanted to meet with me and my mom and dad and talk about what's going to happen."

Riggs further added that Scott Gimple, The Walking Dead's showrunner, was "trying to figure out how to bridge the gap between Rick not wanting to kill Negan and Rick also really wanting to kill Negan, which he does right now [in the show's story]." This resulted in having Carl get bitten, which has even more of an impact on Rick since he's become "this really humanitarian figure and person who could see the good in people and see that people can change and not everyone out there is bad."

We'll just have to wait and see if Carl's death is truly the meaningful moment the show wants it to be when The Walking Dead returns from its Winter break on Feb. 25.

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by Anonymousreply 102January 4, 2018 1:48 AM

"Walking Dead star admits he really, really did not want to leave the show"

While most actors express grateful platitudes once they're killed off a long-running TV series, The Walking Dead's Chandler Riggs has no problem appearing generally miffed he's no longer employed.

The 18-year-old actor, who has played Andrew Lincoln's young, one-eyed son Carl on the series since its inception, became the latest Walking Dead star to be brutally axed from the exhaustingly grim zombie drama last night, when it was revealed Carl had been concealing a zombie bite for several weeks, with his death now imminent.

Speaking to Hollywood Reporter, Riggs confessed his disappointment with the decision, which entirely deviated from the original Walking Dead comic book series.

"It was devastating for me and my family because the show has been such a huge part of my life for so long," he said. "For a few days, we didn't know what to do; I just bought a house in Senoia [near where the show films in Georgia]. That was a big deal that I wouldn't be on anymore."

Carl's death also led Riggs, who began playing the character at the age of 11, to change course in his personal life, having originally been planning to attend college this year.

"I was planning on going to college until I found out," he said. "I decided that I wanted to not go to college for at least a year and move to L.A. and focus on acting and music. It ended up being a great thing because now I get to do all kinds of other stuff that I haven't been able to do in the last eight years."

After revealing that he's yet to speak to Walking Dead creator Robert Kirkman about his exit, Riggs also expressed some sadness at not being able to play out the storylines that Carl has experienced in the comic books, including assuming the role of leader of the survivors after being trained by his father.

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by Anonymousreply 1December 11, 2017 11:17 PM

Spill that dirt, Carl!

by Anonymousreply 2December 11, 2017 11:22 PM

I have never seen this show, nor want to(and I'm not even sure why I'm commenting) so naturally I assumed this RIggs guy had developed into an ugly adult.

Well, it turns out he's not ugly so maybe he's just a shitty actor.

by Anonymousreply 3December 11, 2017 11:31 PM

[quote] I Never Trusted AMC

Join the club!

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by Anonymousreply 4December 11, 2017 11:33 PM

They kept him around for a long time.

by Anonymousreply 5December 11, 2017 11:33 PM

If anyone is wondering why the show has been sucking ass so badly for the past two seasons, this is why.

Those dumb fucks at AMC have no clue what they're doing, and none of their decisions make any sense, except for the bottom line: money.

Kirkman, Gimple, Gale Ann Hurd, etc. They're all to blame.

Chandler (or his father) must have pissed someone at AMC off pretty badly, for them to do this to him.

by Anonymousreply 6December 11, 2017 11:37 PM

Its a zombie show....nobody is safe.....other than this kid and Rick, nobody has been with the show from the start....he should be glad he lasted this long.

by Anonymousreply 7December 11, 2017 11:37 PM

I saw it as being Rick’s story so all other characters are disposable. There’s barely an episode passes without a death, same with Game of Thrones. Nobody is safe.

by Anonymousreply 8December 11, 2017 11:42 PM

Carol and Daryl are still there from the original group too.

I don't get all of the outrage. Major characters get killed on this show all the time. Why would Carl be untouchable (other than the huge departure from the comics?) I didn't care too much about his character either way but I think it makes it more interesting to have the story take such a such different turn from the comics. Makes it more unpredictable.

by Anonymousreply 9December 11, 2017 11:42 PM

Gimple and the other showrunners come off as assholes on Talking Dead

by Anonymousreply 10December 11, 2017 11:43 PM

Wasn't he a shit actor anyway? He was a local hire out of Atlanta when he was a kid.

by Anonymousreply 11December 11, 2017 11:43 PM

People take this show way too seriously, including, obviously, this kid actor's father. It's a show about the zombie apocalypse, ffs; characters are going to get killed.

by Anonymousreply 12December 11, 2017 11:47 PM

[quote] other than this kid and Rick, nobody has been with the show from the start

Carol (Melissa McBride) and Daryl (Norman Reedus) are both originals from season one.

by Anonymousreply 13December 11, 2017 11:48 PM

The only character they don't have the balls to kill off is Daryl. Women love that greasy, squinty redneck. They'd riot.

by Anonymousreply 14December 11, 2017 11:49 PM

[quote] People take this show way too seriously, including, obviously, this kid actor's father.

You're missing the point.

Read what Chandler's father said: "Watching showrunner Scott Gimple fire my son 2 weeks before his 18th birthday after telling him they wanted him for the next 3 years was disappointing"

The fact is, Gimple is a lying dickhead. And whenever he appears on Talking Dead with Chris Hardwick, you can easily see that he's nothing but a dickhead.

by Anonymousreply 15December 11, 2017 11:50 PM

Probably this teen's grabby stage dad was asking for too much money for the new 3-year contract in negotiations. No one's irreplaceable!

Rather unseemly to say he "never trusted" the producers, after they made his child a star.

by Anonymousreply 16December 12, 2017 12:17 AM

Daryl and Carol have been around from the start.

by Anonymousreply 17December 12, 2017 12:19 AM

Carol was another local hire out of Atlanta. She was actually working in a casting office for a while.

by Anonymousreply 18December 12, 2017 12:21 AM

This dude will never be in another show.

by Anonymousreply 19December 12, 2017 12:23 AM

Unprofessional, deluded, immature, and just plain stupid.

It's a fucking acting role, shit head. You've had a good run and it's over. Fuck you, Miss Special.

by Anonymousreply 20December 12, 2017 12:26 AM

The show has turned into utter shit. It's nothing more than a vehicle for repetitive and obnoxious commercials. Every moment of has to be some crescendo to another stupid commercial break.

by Anonymousreply 21December 12, 2017 12:29 AM

I see that Scott M. Pimple has joined the conversation at R20.

by Anonymousreply 22December 12, 2017 12:29 AM

I pretty much half watch this show these days. It's just gotten so convoluted and stupid. I DVR it because I like a bit here and there..well mostly just Melissa McBride as Carol. If they ever kill her off, I'd probably quit watching and wouldn't miss it.

by Anonymousreply 23December 12, 2017 12:33 AM

wow now parents are gonna negotiate and try to get their kids re-hired when they get fired? smh

by Anonymousreply 24December 12, 2017 12:34 AM

Yeah, Carol is the character I care about the most. Melissa McBride is a wonderful actress.

I’m not necessarily sure Carl will die though. Somehow, he’ll manage to survive I believe. JMO.

by Anonymousreply 25December 12, 2017 12:37 AM

Maybe not now with Dad inserting popping off...

by Anonymousreply 26December 12, 2017 12:43 AM

I don't think they'll pull another "Glen was under the dumpster" stunt. That pissed a lot of people off. Carl's dead.

by Anonymousreply 27December 12, 2017 12:46 AM

Since day one EVERYONE knows you get a script and it can be your last. It's in their contract.

[quote]I pretty much half watch this show these days. It's just gotten so convoluted and stupid. I DVR it because I like a bit here and there..well mostly just Melissa McBride as Carol. If they ever kill her off, I'd probably quit watching and wouldn't miss it.

Me too. As long as the ridiculous Negan is on I'll scan it for characters I like.

by Anonymousreply 28December 12, 2017 12:46 AM

What I find most interesting is how all the actors from the show who appear on Hardwick's Talking Dead, always say what a great big happy family it is on the set of Walking Dead.

Apparently, that's not the case.

It looks like there are a lot of disgruntled actors, not just because of the way that the execs handle firings, but also because of the bad writing.

The guy who plays Dwight was on Talking Dead last week with the guy who plays Eugene, and the Dwight guy could not have been LESS INTERESTED in the show, if you had put hot pokers up his ass.

He was so bored to be there, and everything Hardwick asked him about his character Dwight, or about the show itself, was met with a "meh" or a "you'll have to ask Scott Gimple." He really couldn't have cared less, and I read that as a huge fuck you to the writers and producers of the show.

He didn't look happy.

by Anonymousreply 29December 12, 2017 12:46 AM

Who wouldn't get upset when the money spigot gets turned off...

by Anonymousreply 30December 12, 2017 12:47 AM

[quote] I’m not necessarily sure Carl will die though

Are you mental?

Chandler Riggs himself said that Carl is dead.

And his father would never have gone public like this, if there was hope the character was still alive.

HE'S DEAD.

by Anonymousreply 31December 12, 2017 12:48 AM

Have you not heard of creating drama, R31?

by Anonymousreply 32December 12, 2017 12:50 AM

'Walking Dead' Showrunner Says It's Been Tough Since Shocking Death Reveal

If you think your day has been tough, tell that to Scott Gimple.

The “Walking Dead” showrunner is used to dealing with all kinds of reactions to shocking moments on the show, but the latest jaw-dropper ― which happened during the midseason finale, “How It’s Gotta Be” ― has proved especially difficult.

In the final moments of Sunday’s episode, Carl (Chandler Riggs) revealed a zombie bite on his side. In the world of “The Walking Dead,” that’s basically a death warrant.

Fans were crushed over the fate of the young man who grew up on the show, but perhaps not as much as Riggs himself. Following the show, The Hollywood Reporter released an interview in which he called the news of his character’s death “devastating” for him and his family. He explained that he’d just bought a house in Senoia, Georgia, near where the AMC series is filmed.

William Riggs, Chandler’s father, also posted an emotional message on Facebook after the episode, saying how hard it was to watch his son get “fired” and adding that he didn’t trust Gimple or AMC. He later deleted the message.

Before HuffPost jumped on the phone with Gimple, AMC emailed to say there would be “no comment” from the showrunner on Riggs’ father’s Facebook message. However, during our conversation, Gimple did describe how hard it’s been for him since Carl’s impending death was revealed.

“I’m just thinking about Chandler, and the cast and crew and all the people put together, but it’s tough,” he said. “I knew it would be tough for the people who have been following the story for so long, and it’s the kind of turns the story takes that are so painful.”

Gimple stressed how important the next episode, ostensibly Carl’s last appearance as a living person, will be. “The next episode is really critical to the whole story of it, to Carl’s story, and to how Carl’s story affects everyone else,” he said. “This is just the start of that. I really hope people see that as well. It’s amazing work by Chandler and [Andrew Lincoln], Danai Gurira, and everyone else. And there is, I hope, some meaning to be drawn from it.”

Gimple chatted more about how the show decided upon Carl’s death, whether Riggs’ future college plans really had anything to do with the plot twist, and where “The Walking Dead” is headed now.

[quote] What were the conversations in the writing room like when you decided this is how the story would break?

It was all just story. When we’re planning the story, there’s all these different iterations that are played out into the future. ... The map of the show is all these 14 paths. This was one of those 14 paths.

[quote] Can you say what some of those other paths were?

I really can’t get into that. The “why” of it is played out on screen ... but there’s stuff in this that affects things years from now.

[quote] At what point did you know it had to be Carl?

I definitely don’t want to pin that one down either, but I will say the possibility of that fork of the map had been there. We talk about all those different iterations.

[quote] There were rumors that Chandler’s character would be written off after his college announcement in 2016. Did that have anything to do with it?

No, I mean that would’ve been outside the story, unless we were approached or something like that. But, no, it’s always just about the story.

[quote] What was the conversation like when you told him?

Two or three years ago, I figured out that I should never get into the private conversations that we have about this stuff. It’s so personal. I wouldn’t want to talk about what happened behind the scenes like that. It’s very much about what happened on screen.

[quote] Anything to say to all those Carl fans out there?

Carl is one of the most important characters on the series, and this turn in his story is going to indelibly affect everything moving forward.

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by Anonymousreply 33December 12, 2017 12:55 AM

[quote] So why Carl and not someone like Morgan?

I think it’ll be apparent as to how this affects the story in seismic ways, at least what this story entails. There’s a million different ways it could go, but people will see the way it goes.

[quote] You said on “Talking Dead” that this will play out the way bites play out on the show. But there’s a theory that Carl could’ve been bit by a Whisperer a human in a zombie disguise. What are your thoughts on that?

What I said last night on “Talking Dead” is true. This bite will play out as we’ve seen bites play out on the show. That’s a very cool, imaginative, intense theory, but this bite plays out as we’ve seen it play out.

[quote] What are you proudest of after the episode?

It was a very difficult episode to do emotionally and to execute. It was a very ambitious episode. All the writers, the productions staff, the [executive producers]. David Leslie Johnson and Angela Kang, who wrote the script. And Michael E. Satrazemis, who did such an amazing job directing it. I’m just proud how everyone came together. I’m so proud of Chandler and the performance that he gave, but people haven’t seen anything yet. Both in our next episode, but just in Chandler’s work moving forward. He’s a remarkably talented young man, just came out with some new music that people should check out, and he’s diving into projects immediately.

But he’s not dead on the show. There’s an incredible episode coming up, and I do hope it contextualizes all of this. I do hope people check it out because it really is some of the finest acting work we’ve had on the series, and it’s all Chandler.

[quote] What’s the challenge moving forward without one of the most important characters on the show?

The challenge, certainly we had to think about this, is to tell the stories from the [comic books]. They’re going to be in very different ways now. We’ve always done it. There’s this butterfly effect that happens with characters that are on the show that weren’t in the book, or rather aren’t currently in the books, that were in the book, and vice versa. Then there’s characters that weren’t a part of the book like Daryl, and there’s this butterfly effect that affects everything, and it changes the “who” sometimes and the “how” sometimes, but we really want to get to the moments from the book that had me giving [creator Robert Kirkman] money every month. And I still do sometimes.

I love the stories from the book. When I started on the show, I wanted to tell them exactly like the book, and Robert was very open to do it loosely and change things because he had told those stories and told them so well. I still want to tell those stories with great fidelity but with changes to surprise the fans and potentially enhance the story in some ways, just by virtue of knowing years ahead things that we could do. It’s a challenge, but it’s a challenge we’ve met before. We have a great group of people to do it, and we’ve already thought a lot about it.

by Anonymousreply 34December 12, 2017 12:55 AM

Some are speculating that since Carl is already gonna die, his final episode will be some kind of suicide mission to take out Negan.

by Anonymousreply 35December 12, 2017 12:58 AM

r35 I hope so because, frankly, they killed off the wrong character. Meaning they need to kill off Negan.

by Anonymousreply 36December 12, 2017 1:04 AM

Now maybe he’ll finally get a fuckin haircut.

by Anonymousreply 37December 12, 2017 1:05 AM

Never cared for Carl but I can see how his death can be the final nail in the coffin for fans to stop watching the show. I can't stand Negan but that's mainly because of the actor.

by Anonymousreply 38December 12, 2017 1:19 AM

[quote] Never cared for Carl but I can see how his death can be the final nail in the coffin for fans to stop watching the show

Especially since the show has a severe shortage of young people.

Carl and Enid brought some kind of youth and freshness to WD, especially since the adults are so battered and jaded.

Those writers are complete idiots.

by Anonymousreply 39December 12, 2017 1:23 AM

Morgan was in the first season as well.

Carl should have been the end game. Taking over for Rick.

by Anonymousreply 40December 12, 2017 1:29 AM

[quote] Carl should have been the end game. Taking over for Rick.

Exactly!!

Of the "14 paths" the writers could have taken, this should have been the one and only direction for the show. Any other path is just poor writing.

What this says to me, is that the decision WAS personal, and it WAS based on something that Chandler had said or done, which made them write him off the show.

Gimple is a liar, plain and simple.

by Anonymousreply 41December 12, 2017 1:39 AM

[quote]Carl should have been the end game. Taking over for Rick.

Yes the final shot of the entire series should have been Carl walking away from the camera holding sister Judith's hand. Fade out.

by Anonymousreply 42December 12, 2017 2:04 AM

With Rick's pistol in his belt.

by Anonymousreply 43December 12, 2017 2:06 AM

[quote] With Rick's pistol in his belt

And Sheriff's hat.

by Anonymousreply 44December 12, 2017 2:08 AM

Or Carl diddling Judith.

by Anonymousreply 45December 12, 2017 2:11 AM

Ew, go away r45 freak.

by Anonymousreply 46December 12, 2017 2:16 AM

I always saw the show ending with Carl, Judith and Enid surviving the worst of the apocalypse and going on to live in the new/normal world. By killing off Carl the showrunners have pretty much given up having a proper ending for The Walking Dead.

by Anonymousreply 47December 12, 2017 2:19 AM

That Riggs kid seems like a little cunt. I'm glad they killed him off.

by Anonymousreply 48December 12, 2017 2:22 AM

[quote] That Riggs kid seems like a little cunt. I'm glad they killed him off.

Rofl... Isn't it past your bedtime, Scott/R48?

by Anonymousreply 49December 12, 2017 2:25 AM

I thought he was a good actor.

by Anonymousreply 50December 12, 2017 2:28 AM

The show runners have been yelling about how they just “had” to have Negan kill Glenn because it's in the comics. Kirkman ruined the show with following the comics too closely. Back when they were deviating from the comics it was much better.

The trash people that forgot how to speak English in two years: comics. Animated lion Shiva: comics. Negan: comics. Negan ruined the show but the excuse is they had to have him because comics.

in the comics, Carl takes on much more importance as Rick ages. It is a major, major role. This would be like if they prematurely killed off Harry Potter in a movie about James Potter because they didn’t want to pay the actor or something.

Carl ends up being a bigger deal than Rick, eventually, is the way the comics are going. In the comics, people believe they will kill off Rick and Carl will inherit the mantle. That’s what Riggs thought he was getting. So of course they’re pissed.

Kirkman never shut up about how he wanted it exactly like the comics. Darabount had enough sense to realize that would never work, which is why they fired him.

by Anonymousreply 51December 12, 2017 2:33 AM

Thanks for pointing that out, R51.

More evidence of the BULLSHIT spewing from Scott Gimple.

by Anonymousreply 52December 12, 2017 2:37 AM

Carol was in movie version of The Mist.

by Anonymousreply 53December 12, 2017 2:44 AM

[quote] Carol was in movie version of The Mist

So were Andrea and Dale.

by Anonymousreply 54December 12, 2017 2:50 AM

The kid needs to cut the cord from his dad. Trust me!

by Anonymousreply 55December 12, 2017 2:50 AM

I think what people meant when they said Rick and Carl were the only ones there from the start they meant the pilot episode - Carol & Greaseball showed up after the pilot didn't they?

Gimple ruined this show. I stopped watching this year and haven't missed it for a second. He has no idea how to run a show. I didn't even like Carl as a character or Riggs as an actor but jerking the legs out from under a kid that's been on the show since he was little seems about right in tune with this asshole's MO. Run, Chandler, run.

by Anonymousreply 56December 12, 2017 3:08 AM

[quote] I think what people meant when they said Rick and Carl were the only ones there from the start they meant the pilot episode

Carl wasn't in the pilot. It was only Rick and Morgan.

Glenn, Andrea, Merle, and T-Dog showed up in episode 2.

Carl, Lori, Dale, Carol, and Daryl didn't appear until episode 3.

by Anonymousreply 57December 12, 2017 3:13 AM

I stopped watching the show years ago but it seems to me if you have an 18 year old kid in the cast the kindest thing you could do is fire him. It gives him no excuse not to finish his education. Years from now I hope to see he left show business and had a great life. The anti Lohan.

by Anonymousreply 58December 12, 2017 3:21 AM

[quote]in the comics, Carl takes on much more importance as Rick ages.

I don't have anything against the kid playing Carl but I don't think he's a strong enough actor to carry the show. Especially, a show that's past it's prime.

by Anonymousreply 59December 12, 2017 3:37 AM

R9 Carl is still alive in the comics and has a quasi-Father/Son relationship with Negan. Carl has a great role in the comics.

by Anonymousreply 60December 12, 2017 3:38 AM

Put a fork in this show

by Anonymousreply 61December 12, 2017 3:41 AM

Walking Dead is notorious for killing off any actor who causes them a headache.

That is why cast salaries are low, ask for more money and die.

The show only exists to generate revenue for AMC. It is that simple, they only care how it can keep lining their pocketbooks.

by Anonymousreply 62December 12, 2017 3:49 AM

What a baby, and his helicopter dad should know better. Imagine actors from The Sopranos bitching that their character was whacked.

by Anonymousreply 63December 12, 2017 4:20 AM

[quote]That is why cast salaries are low, ask for more money and die.

The cast does pretty well at autograph shows. Carl gets $80 and another for a photo.

by Anonymousreply 64December 12, 2017 4:27 AM

The show turned to shit after Darabont left.

by Anonymousreply 65December 12, 2017 4:27 AM

The Sopranos wasn’t following a book the showrunners were yelling and screaming had to be followed to the letter, even if it hurt the show.

Kirkman thinks he is a fucking genius and his comic books are the Word of God. It’s a fucking comic book. One episode of TWD probably has more eyeballs than every issue of the comic book put together. It’s all ego all day with him.

by Anonymousreply 66December 12, 2017 4:28 AM

This show is so long in the tooth they really need to end it because it's gotten so boring. It's totally lost all it's magic and basically living off fumes at this point.

Considering Carl went missing for so many episodes i'd assumed he had gone to college, is he not going to college now? He needs to get his dad to shutup if he wants to continue working because the last thing producers want is some bitch ass dad badmouthing them.

by Anonymousreply 67December 12, 2017 4:36 AM

Daddys got bills to pay and stuff to buy.

by Anonymousreply 68December 12, 2017 5:35 AM

[quote] He needs to get his dad to shutup if he wants to continue working because the last thing producers want is some bitch ass dad badmouthing them.

I'm glad that Chandler's dad spoke up. Otherwise, nobody would know what a colossal asshole Scott Gimple is.

To be unceremoniously dumped after devoting seven years of your life to a show, must feel like absolute crap. It's almost like being dumped by a lover, with no explanation.

Chandler was a huge part of Walking Dead, and he deserved better than what Pimple did to him.

The people who run the show are fucking arrogant pricks.

by Anonymousreply 69December 12, 2017 12:30 PM

So there are no, at least two main openly gay characters on the show. When are we going to see some action?

by Anonymousreply 70December 12, 2017 12:41 PM

The bone of contention appears to be they flat out lied to his face, told him he was secure for the next three years, let him buy a house and then yanked the rug out from under him.

I don't work in entertainment, but my employer does the same shit to folks. At this point I assumed it was standard operating procedure at most companies to be at least utterly apathetic if not outright hostile to what is in the employee's best interests.

by Anonymousreply 71December 12, 2017 12:42 PM

I get your point r69 but “devoting seven years of your life” is a bit over the top - he wasn’t caring for a sick relative he was an actor being paid for work. That’s how it is.

by Anonymousreply 72December 12, 2017 12:42 PM

Whoever decided to kill him off also probably decided to kill Mrs. Blackenship on Mad Men. She was a riot.

by Anonymousreply 73December 12, 2017 12:55 PM

Why do people even bother talking about this. Im glad the little fucker died. He was on a long running show and main characters do tend to die on a show aptly named the walking dead.

by Anonymousreply 74December 12, 2017 4:08 PM

R7: Morgan was around from the start also. He saved Rick's ass in the premiere episode. Alas, he is moving to FTWD, but Rick/Carl are not the only originals.

by Anonymousreply 75December 12, 2017 4:21 PM

Judith will probably take over the Carl storyline. Esp. if they do the flash-forward storyline from the comics with an older actress.

by Anonymousreply 76December 12, 2017 4:31 PM

I don't care if Carl is dead or not, but it's pretty shitty to let an actor buy a house and everything and then tell him he's being killed off.

They should get rid of Gimple. This season is a complete mess and last season wasn't much better. The writing is beyond terrible as this point.

by Anonymousreply 77December 12, 2017 4:43 PM

Carl (and his terrible character and acting that I found got consistently slightly better with every season) was about 1/4 the reason why I even bothered with this show.

They basically need an absolutely fantastic 2nd half and next season for me to give a shit anymore.

I don't think they will have a fantastic anything.

At this point I just want to see Andrew Lincoln as a cool character in something else fantastical.

I don't hate the Walking Dead premise and general plot and all that. I do hate that a show is being run into the ground by a terrible showrunner and company. I'd even accept Carl dying if I had a clue about a better vision about it all, but I watch the show and since Season 4-5 or so, I don't see vision, just profit for AMC. Maybe pseudo hipster vision. Ugh the whole road to Terminus chapter was so pretentious.

by Anonymousreply 78December 12, 2017 5:17 PM

[quote] Judith will probably take over the Carl storyline

Nobody will relate to Judith. She was a baby just last season, and people don't have the same attachment to that character, as they have had to Carl.

The show runners can try to make the audience love her, but it won't work.

They must think that the people who watch the show are complete idiots, or something.

by Anonymousreply 79December 12, 2017 6:19 PM

As someone said further up that I hadn't thought about, with Carl gone there is a shortage of young people. One of the things I found interesting was the concept of Carl, a child when everything began, essentially growing up knowing nothing different and forming his own concept of morality in this changed world and taking a lead as in the comics. Contrasting it with Rick perhaps. Now, everyone remaining moreorless is from the old world. An entire perspective has been lost.

I really cannot be interested in it anymore. There is so much else it could have done - or maybe not since the writers obviously don't have a clue what makes people watch or makes a good story. You don't actually need to kill people off to create drama. Now they're going to part from the comic goodness knows what mess they'll make.

(and there are so few characters I give a damn about now)

by Anonymousreply 80December 12, 2017 6:43 PM

Dead show walking. Few care about zombies in 2017. Even fewer in 2018.

by Anonymousreply 81December 12, 2017 6:48 PM

R79 Maybe with Judeth, theoretically, they'd age her into being a young child and as some part of any longer term feminist+housewife (whatever, female) demographic hitter. But that's so cynical of me... what am I kidding, that's probably part of their plans LOL.

To me, Carl wasn't everything, but he was perhaps the biggest chunk. Possibly, ultimately, bigger than Rick. Because I could take Rick dying if it meant a mature Carl could replace him. Replace Rick with any existing or even future engineered character, and its not at all as good of an impact.

The Walking Dead is The Walking Dead Show until further notice.

One thing I'd love is that they realize the mistake, and turn some, I dunno, plan to have a dying Carl sent on suicide mission to deal with Negan (not saying it'll happen), into instead some ploy by Carl to use a fake bite to be allowed to take the chance to do a suicide mission when he otherwise wouldn't be allowed.

You know, just... something that isn't retarded, and I almost never use that word.

NOTE: I haven't watched this season, so I just gather some info. Sorry if any bits are stupid.

by Anonymousreply 82December 12, 2017 6:53 PM

[quote] I'm glad that Chandler's dad spoke up. Otherwise, nobody would know what a colossal asshole Scott Gimple is. To be unceremoniously dumped after devoting seven years of your life to a show, must feel like absolute crap. It's almost like being dumped by a lover, with no explanation. Chandler was a huge part of Walking Dead, and he deserved better than what Pimple did to him. The people who run the show are fucking arrogant pricks.

[quote] The bone of contention appears to be they flat out lied to his face, told him he was secure for the next three years, let him buy a house and then yanked the rug out from under him.

[quote] I don't care if Carl is dead or not, but it's pretty shitty to let an actor buy a house and everything and then tell him he's being killed off.

What type of fantasy land you people live in; where someone owes or guarantees you high profile lucrative permanent employment. Because you bought a house, or because someone told you that they'd like to keep you around?

1. He's an actor. Acting is not a secure profession. The show could be cancelled at anytime, or you popularity could wane at anytime.

2. Killing off of main characters is central to the main premise of the show, zombie apocalypse.

3. Someone told him they'd like to have him around. Which is nice but being that they don't decide very far in advance who will die when. Why would you consider that a verbal 3 yr contract guarantee.

by Anonymousreply 83December 12, 2017 7:06 PM

[quote][R41] What this says to me, is that the decision WAS personal, and it WAS based on something that Chandler had said or done, which made them write him off the show.

Angela Lansbury wants to know what he was wearing!

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by Anonymousreply 84December 12, 2017 7:51 PM

R65, agree 100%.

Say whatever shit you want to say about Darabont, and his penchant for rage filled emails, the fucker knew how to run a show.

I haven’t watched in over a year. Haven’t even thought of returning to it.

Good lick to the kid. He worked more than many, and on a top earning show. I’m actually quite surprised he lasted this long.

by Anonymousreply 85December 12, 2017 10:24 PM

how much was he paid per episode? i hope he invested wisely and didn't get ripped off by his parents.

by Anonymousreply 86December 12, 2017 10:32 PM

I’m sure there’s a place for him somewhere on the CW.

by Anonymousreply 87December 12, 2017 10:47 PM

[quote] What type of fantasy land you people live in; where someone owes or guarantees you high profile lucrative permanent employment.

Spoken like a true corporate cunt.

The FACT is that they DID promise him an extra three years, and they reneged on that.

[quote] Why would you consider that a verbal 3 yr contract guarantee

You have no idea what went on in those talks. From the looks of it, Gimple DID give them some sort of guarantee that Chandler would remain on the show. And true to form with fucking SHADY ASS AMC, they backed out on their promises.

THIS IS WHY THEY ARE BEING SUED BY DARABONT FOR HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!!!

If Chandler has any proof that they gave him assurances of longer-term employment, I think he should sue their asses.

Milk AMC and Walking Dead for everything they can. That'll teach those shady cunts to fuck with people.

The problem with the Gimple, Hurd, Nicotero and Kirkman, is that they think they are untouchable. They need to be destroyed.

by Anonymousreply 88December 12, 2017 11:27 PM

[quote] Spoken like a true corporate cunt. The FACT is that they DID promise him an extra three years, and they reneged on that.

1. You're way too overly invested in this, and you sound insane 16 yr old.

[quote] You have no idea what went on in those talks.

2. Neither do you.

Mentioning that they would like to have you around does not equal a verbal or written guarantee of anything. Regardless even the Walking Dead contracts offer no long term guarantee.

But by all means please continue with your fantasy land nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 89December 12, 2017 11:47 PM

[quote] You're way too overly invested in this

I'm invested in people being treated fairly.

What's more interesting is why YOU are so invested in corporate fat cat interests.

Why would you want to see rich people getting richer, and a regular actor getting the shaft? Is that a good thing for you?

Whenever I see people defending corporate interests, or defending rich people trying to get even more rich, that sends up a red flag.

So please, what is YOUR investment in defending the corporate fat cats. Please, do tell.

by Anonymousreply 90December 12, 2017 11:53 PM

R90 maybe he was an annoying cunt and they just wanted rid of him? Maybe his dad was a greedy asshole so they decided to cut their losses? Maybe he was getting handsy with some of the females and they want to distance themselves from a harassment lawsuit?

You have no clue as to what happened. Neither do I. Best to leave the raging diatribes until there are some actual facts to rant about.

by Anonymousreply 91December 13, 2017 12:38 AM

[quote] So please, what is YOUR investment in defending the corporate fat cats. Please, do tell

I'm invested in common sense. Spare me the dramatics. He's not a middle aged 35,000 dollar a year factory worker who has a family of 5 to support and now can't afford Christmas. He's a well paid privileged teen actor who was written out of a story line that centers around inevitably writing the main characters out. Hence the contract stipulations. This is not about the "corporate interest". This is about the show's story line and how the writers choose to tell that story.

You and your screaming CAPS LOCK are ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 92December 13, 2017 1:51 AM

Wow, who would've imagined that AMC execs posted here?

They're working overtime on their p.r. campaign.

by Anonymousreply 93December 13, 2017 1:59 AM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 94December 13, 2017 10:42 PM

This has to partially be about the parents hustling AMC for more money.

And the dad's showing very little faith in his son, by making it sound like he'll never be hired for a job again!

by Anonymousreply 95December 13, 2017 10:51 PM

I am thinking of returning to the show now that he will soon be gone. Irritating character as hell. And a talentless actor.

by Anonymousreply 96December 13, 2017 10:55 PM

R95 and R96, brought to you courtesy of AMC public relations department.

by Anonymousreply 97December 13, 2017 11:12 PM

I believe the kid and his family were truly under the impression that the kid had t3 more years, hence the big ticket purchase of the house. Never do something like that until the ink dries.

Frankly, this show has been on much too long. It looks like the ratings are holding up, but I don’t even watch any longer, & I’m even friends with one of the guys who has been on from the beginning. And no, we don’t discuss the show, other than for the shitty weather they film in.

But yeah, I have lost complete interest.

by Anonymousreply 98December 14, 2017 12:48 AM

Sounds like the dad was a pain in the ass for the producers and to the residents of the town the show filmed in.

Judging by his Facebook rant, I can believe it.

Idiot thought his kid was the "star," only to find out that 99% of actors are dispensable, especially when they become high maintenance.

Then he proceeds to kill whatever future acting career his kid might have by publicly bad-mouthing his former employer.

Bad actor + high maintenance stage parent + airing grievances publicly to the press = no more acting jobs for poor Carl.

Hope his dad saved his money for his future (probably not).

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by Anonymousreply 99December 20, 2017 4:42 AM

Scott Pimple has chimed in at R99.

Hi, dick face!

by Anonymousreply 100December 20, 2017 10:22 PM

His father may be a pain in the ass.

But he didn't expose anything that we didn't know (or think) before.

Gimple and the rest of the people in charge of the show all suck.

by Anonymousreply 101December 21, 2017 12:55 AM

It has indeed become a pretentious, convoluted, self-important bore. I have no doubt it wouldn't be in nearly as bad a shape if Darabont had stayed, but by this point the premise would've been running on fumes regardless. I play games on my phone while I watch it now. I don't care about any of the characters except maybe Carol. All the others are such poser fake tough guys.

by Anonymousreply 102January 4, 2018 1:48 AM
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