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Question for the Eldergays about the Patty Duke Show

Why the fuck were they identical cousins and not just twins? Was this concept controversial in the 1940's?

by Anonymousreply 5002/02/2018

Because as cousins, they came from different parts of the world, which created many plot possibilities/contrasts. Cathy was from Scotland and Patty was from...NBC Studios or something.

by Anonymousreply 112/07/2017

The Patty Duke show took place in the 60s. IMDb is your friend

by Anonymousreply 212/07/2017

1940's? OP must be a clueless millennial.

by Anonymousreply 312/07/2017

Why did they let Patty Duke get away with doing neither a Scottish nor a British accent?

by Anonymousreply 412/07/2017

Has anyone ever encountered identical cousins in real life?

by Anonymousreply 512/07/2017

Well - strictly speaking - patty and Cathy would have been born in the 1940s - so maybe OP was questioning the social mores of legitimacy and the ethics of splitting up a pair of identical twins back then when they were babies?

Or yeah - he’s just a clueless millennial.

by Anonymousreply 612/07/2017

[quote]Why did they let Patty Duke get away with doing neither a Scottish nor a British accent?

Why did they let Hayley Mills get away with not doing an American accent?

by Anonymousreply 712/07/2017

Cathy did have a distinct Scottish brogue in the first few shows, but it was softened considerably after viewers complained that they couldn't understand what she was saying.

by Anonymousreply 812/07/2017

Elder here !!!! It didn't matter. I loved the show but I guess I'm dumb cause I never stopped to think that there's no such as: " But they're cousins, identical cousins all the way, one pair of matching bookends.....different as night and day....Cathy enjoys a minuet the ballet ruse and crepes Suzette but Patty loves to rock and roll....A hot dog makes her lose control....

Sorry about that rambling . I was so sad finding out as an adult that Patty was abused by her "managers" who were like surrogate parents. When she went to a funeral, they made her go as Cathy, not herself. And all the mental health issues she had.....with her background she never had a chance ....sigh

by Anonymousreply 912/07/2017

[quote]And all the mental health issues she had.....with her background she never had a chance ....sigh

Her father was an alcoholic - who left them when she was six - then her mother tried to kill herself in front of the kids.

by Anonymousreply 1012/07/2017

I love these threads where OP wants a rational explanation for some aspect of a TV sitcom.

by Anonymousreply 1112/07/2017

Patty Duke said that ironically, she felt more comfortable playing the quieter Cathy from Scotland, rather than the more mod and madcap American teen Patty (supposedly fashioned after herself.) she said she had no idea how to approach playing a regular American teen, as she wasn't one, herself.

by Anonymousreply 1212/07/2017

[quote]1940's? OP must be a clueless millennial.

—Anonymous

ffs, are they s too stupid or too lazy to use the google machine?

by Anonymousreply 1312/07/2017

I loved the Patty Duke Show! As for relatives that look alike, my uncle and I are nearly identical (though years apart), so it can happen - perhaps not as identical as Patty and Cathy. Off topic: I thought Eddie Applegate, Patty's boyfriend Richard, was very handsome. Let's talk about him.

by Anonymousreply 1412/07/2017

Eddie Applegate would fit right in here. He was like 40 years old during the show's run but thought he didn't look a day over 16.

by Anonymousreply 1512/07/2017

This show needed a transwoman.

by Anonymousreply 1612/07/2017

What [R1] said.Eddie Applegate was in his late twenties I believe,but was great as Richard.I always watched it for Ross.He was so funny to me.

by Anonymousreply 1712/07/2017

Does anyone remember the episode where Patty adopts a Korean orphan via a mail order ad? And the Korean orphan was played by a hispanic kid? I guess most people didn't know what Koreans looked like back then.

by Anonymousreply 1812/07/2017

I had a crush on Eddie Applegate.

by Anonymousreply 1912/07/2017

R5 I have. Or nearly so. Phyllis Newman had (has?) a cousin named Phyllis Newman. As young women, identical.

by Anonymousreply 2012/07/2017

I just watched a couple episodes this morning (including the one with Sal Mineo)! She really was such a good actress. Say what you will about the banality of much of the sitcom writing and plot lines of the time, she did manage to create two different and realistic characters.

by Anonymousreply 2112/07/2017

Then there's Samantha and Serena.

by Anonymousreply 2212/07/2017

Were blonde Jeannie and brunette Jeannie cousins or sisters?

by Anonymousreply 2312/07/2017

Well, the song was about identical cousins - not identical twins. They would have to get a new song if the show was about identical twins.

by Anonymousreply 2412/07/2017

R24 maybe they were identical twins separated at birth, then raised as cousins (?)

by Anonymousreply 2512/07/2017

R5: A very good friend of mine has an identical cousin who lives in Germany. Even more ironically, the cousin was briefly married to my friend's 1st husband (after my friend dumped the husband).

by Anonymousreply 2612/07/2017

If comparing identical-adjacent characters , Elizabeth Montgomery wins. Even in the early days, her Serena was consistently different enough and improved as the show wore on.

Barbara Eden seemed to rely more on vocal tricks to differentiate.

As for Patty Duke, sure she was younger and maybe had less experience as an actress. But overall, she didn't consistently bring much difference between what's-her-name and cousin what's-her-name.

by Anonymousreply 2712/07/2017

3 Identical Cousins 3 - Don't forget OP, their was a third. Blond with southern accent.

by Anonymousreply 2812/07/2017

THERE dammit THERE!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 2912/07/2017

Um they were identical because they were played by the same actress. It's called a gimmick. Uproarious identity hijinks.

by Anonymousreply 3012/07/2017

[quote] Why the fuck were they identical cousins and not just twins? Was this concept controversial in the 1940's?

They were twins, but their mother was an underdressed whore and TV wasn't ready to admit that.

by Anonymousreply 3112/07/2017

Greatest TV theme song ever

by Anonymousreply 3212/07/2017

I love the theme song, but it's No. 2 behind The Pruitts of Southampton, Phyllis Diller's short-lived sitcom.

by Anonymousreply 3312/07/2017

Barbara Eden was a terrible actress. She somehow has survived telling that story about Desi Arnaz putting the moves on her when she played a small pat 500 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 3412/07/2017

Eden wasn't subtle but she was actually an excellent performer in her exuberant niche, especially in musicals. She was a great belter and did a lot of musicals in stock. She was fantastic as Lalume in a 1960s ABC TV version of Kismet. Clips used to be available on youtube, I don't know whether they are still there.

by Anonymousreply 3512/07/2017

Still there r35!

by Anonymousreply 3612/08/2017

[quote]R35 She was fantastic as Lalume in a 1960s ABC TV version of Kismet.

And thankfully, her best work is preserved on YouTube....such as SPINNING WHEEL.

by Anonymousreply 3712/08/2017

Barbara when she did Sally Bowles at the Roy Moore Dinner Theater.

by Anonymousreply 3812/08/2017

R38 if only she had founded a Barbara Eden Dinner Theater, like the Burt Reynolds Dinner Theater in Florida. She could have done THE CLASSICS!

So much time lost....

by Anonymousreply 3912/08/2017

Barbara Eden IS Medea!

Barbara Eden IS Hedda Gabler!

Barbara Eden IS Camille!

by Anonymousreply 4012/08/2017

Does anyone have video from Barbara Eden's run as Mother Courage?

by Anonymousreply 4112/08/2017

No r41, but I have the spot remover commercial she did dressed as Lady MacBeth.

by Anonymousreply 4212/08/2017

Can we please stick to the topic on hand, Patty Duke. Thank You!

by Anonymousreply 4312/08/2017

I'd rather discuss her identical cousin Doris.

by Anonymousreply 4412/08/2017

Bump

by Anonymousreply 4502/02/2018

My father had an identical cousin. Seriously. When they were kids they could fool each other's parents. They looked and sounded alike. I can't vouch for the sound but I saw pictures. They were identical. They lost track of each other after high school. Rumor was the cousin died in WWII.

by Anonymousreply 4602/02/2018

A friend of mine has an identical couisin who married her first husband. Fortunately the cousin dumped him, too.

by Anonymousreply 4702/02/2018

Here's Cathy who takes it anywhere

in the mouth or derriere

While Patty's on her knees at night

Rimming guys in Brooklyn Heights

by Anonymousreply 4802/02/2018

A hot dog makes her lose control.

by Anonymousreply 4902/02/2018

Jeannie 2 was her sister, not cousin

by Anonymousreply 5002/02/2018
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