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Question for the Eldergays about the Patty Duke Show

Why the fuck were they identical cousins and not just twins? Was this concept controversial in the 1940's?

by Anonymousreply 44Last Friday at 5:12 PM

Because as cousins, they came from different parts of the world, which created many plot possibilities/contrasts. Cathy was from Scotland and Patty was from...NBC Studios or something.

by Anonymousreply 1Last Thursday at 8:27 AM

The Patty Duke show took place in the 60s. IMDb is your friend

by Anonymousreply 2Last Thursday at 8:30 AM

1940's? OP must be a clueless millennial.

by Anonymousreply 3Last Thursday at 8:33 AM

Why did they let Patty Duke get away with doing neither a Scottish nor a British accent?

by Anonymousreply 4Last Thursday at 8:36 AM

Has anyone ever encountered identical cousins in real life?

by Anonymousreply 5Last Thursday at 8:41 AM

Well - strictly speaking - patty and Cathy would have been born in the 1940s - so maybe OP was questioning the social mores of legitimacy and the ethics of splitting up a pair of identical twins back then when they were babies?

Or yeah - he’s just a clueless millennial.

by Anonymousreply 6Last Thursday at 8:42 AM

[quote]Why did they let Patty Duke get away with doing neither a Scottish nor a British accent?

Why did they let Hayley Mills get away with not doing an American accent?

by Anonymousreply 7Last Thursday at 8:52 AM

Cathy did have a distinct Scottish brogue in the first few shows, but it was softened considerably after viewers complained that they couldn't understand what she was saying.

by Anonymousreply 8Last Thursday at 8:57 AM

Elder here !!!! It didn't matter. I loved the show but I guess I'm dumb cause I never stopped to think that there's no such as: " But they're cousins, identical cousins all the way, one pair of matching bookends.....different as night and day....Cathy enjoys a minuet the ballet ruse and crepes Suzette but Patty loves to rock and roll....A hot dog makes her lose control....

Sorry about that rambling . I was so sad finding out as an adult that Patty was abused by her "managers" who were like surrogate parents. When she went to a funeral, they made her go as Cathy, not herself. And all the mental health issues she had.....with her background she never had a chance ....sigh

by Anonymousreply 9Last Thursday at 9:22 AM

[quote]And all the mental health issues she had.....with her background she never had a chance ....sigh

Her father was an alcoholic - who left them when she was six - then her mother tried to kill herself in front of the kids.

by Anonymousreply 10Last Thursday at 9:26 AM

I love these threads where OP wants a rational explanation for some aspect of a TV sitcom.

by Anonymousreply 11Last Thursday at 9:36 AM

Patty Duke said that ironically, she felt more comfortable playing the quieter Cathy from Scotland, rather than the more mod and madcap American teen Patty (supposedly fashioned after herself.) she said she had no idea how to approach playing a regular American teen, as she wasn't one, herself.

by Anonymousreply 12Last Thursday at 9:40 AM

[quote]1940's? OP must be a clueless millennial.

—Anonymous

ffs, are they s too stupid or too lazy to use the google machine?

by Anonymousreply 13Last Thursday at 9:43 AM

I loved the Patty Duke Show! As for relatives that look alike, my uncle and I are nearly identical (though years apart), so it can happen - perhaps not as identical as Patty and Cathy. Off topic: I thought Eddie Applegate, Patty's boyfriend Richard, was very handsome. Let's talk about him.

by Anonymousreply 14Last Thursday at 10:05 AM

Eddie Applegate would fit right in here. He was like 40 years old during the show's run but thought he didn't look a day over 16.

by Anonymousreply 15Last Thursday at 10:41 AM

This show needed a transwoman.

by Anonymousreply 16Last Thursday at 11:58 AM

What [R1] said.Eddie Applegate was in his late twenties I believe,but was great as Richard.I always watched it for Ross.He was so funny to me.

by Anonymousreply 17Last Thursday at 12:46 PM

Does anyone remember the episode where Patty adopts a Korean orphan via a mail order ad? And the Korean orphan was played by a hispanic kid? I guess most people didn't know what Koreans looked like back then.

by Anonymousreply 18Last Thursday at 1:02 PM

I had a crush on Eddie Applegate.

by Anonymousreply 19Last Thursday at 1:51 PM

R5 I have. Or nearly so. Phyllis Newman had (has?) a cousin named Phyllis Newman. As young women, identical.

by Anonymousreply 20Last Thursday at 2:00 PM

I just watched a couple episodes this morning (including the one with Sal Mineo)! She really was such a good actress. Say what you will about the banality of much of the sitcom writing and plot lines of the time, she did manage to create two different and realistic characters.

by Anonymousreply 21Last Thursday at 2:03 PM

Then there's Samantha and Serena.

by Anonymousreply 22Last Thursday at 2:07 PM

Were blonde Jeannie and brunette Jeannie cousins or sisters?

by Anonymousreply 23Last Thursday at 2:08 PM

Well, the song was about identical cousins - not identical twins. They would have to get a new song if the show was about identical twins.

by Anonymousreply 24Last Thursday at 2:59 PM

R24 maybe they were identical twins separated at birth, then raised as cousins (?)

by Anonymousreply 25Last Thursday at 3:05 PM

R5: A very good friend of mine has an identical cousin who lives in Germany. Even more ironically, the cousin was briefly married to my friend's 1st husband (after my friend dumped the husband).

by Anonymousreply 26Last Thursday at 3:10 PM

If comparing identical-adjacent characters , Elizabeth Montgomery wins. Even in the early days, her Serena was consistently different enough and improved as the show wore on.

Barbara Eden seemed to rely more on vocal tricks to differentiate.

As for Patty Duke, sure she was younger and maybe had less experience as an actress. But overall, she didn't consistently bring much difference between what's-her-name and cousin what's-her-name.

by Anonymousreply 27Last Thursday at 3:21 PM

3 Identical Cousins 3 - Don't forget OP, their was a third. Blond with southern accent.

by Anonymousreply 28Last Thursday at 3:23 PM

THERE dammit THERE!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 29Last Thursday at 3:24 PM

Um they were identical because they were played by the same actress. It's called a gimmick. Uproarious identity hijinks.

by Anonymousreply 30Last Thursday at 3:31 PM

[quote] Why the fuck were they identical cousins and not just twins? Was this concept controversial in the 1940's?

They were twins, but their mother was an underdressed whore and TV wasn't ready to admit that.

by Anonymousreply 31Last Thursday at 3:35 PM

Greatest TV theme song ever

by Anonymousreply 32Last Thursday at 3:46 PM

I love the theme song, but it's No. 2 behind The Pruitts of Southampton, Phyllis Diller's short-lived sitcom.

by Anonymousreply 33Last Thursday at 3:54 PM

Barbara Eden was a terrible actress. She somehow has survived telling that story about Desi Arnaz putting the moves on her when she played a small pat 500 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 34Last Thursday at 6:28 PM

Eden wasn't subtle but she was actually an excellent performer in her exuberant niche, especially in musicals. She was a great belter and did a lot of musicals in stock. She was fantastic as Lalume in a 1960s ABC TV version of Kismet. Clips used to be available on youtube, I don't know whether they are still there.

by Anonymousreply 35Last Thursday at 6:43 PM

Still there r35!

by Anonymousreply 36Last Friday at 8:52 AM

[quote]R35 She was fantastic as Lalume in a 1960s ABC TV version of Kismet.

And thankfully, her best work is preserved on YouTube....such as SPINNING WHEEL.

by Anonymousreply 37Last Friday at 9:20 AM

Barbara when she did Sally Bowles at the Roy Moore Dinner Theater.

by Anonymousreply 38Last Friday at 9:52 AM

R38 if only she had founded a Barbara Eden Dinner Theater, like the Burt Reynolds Dinner Theater in Florida. She could have done THE CLASSICS!

So much time lost....

by Anonymousreply 39Last Friday at 10:12 AM

Barbara Eden IS Medea!

Barbara Eden IS Hedda Gabler!

Barbara Eden IS Camille!

by Anonymousreply 40Last Friday at 11:38 AM

Does anyone have video from Barbara Eden's run as Mother Courage?

by Anonymousreply 41Last Friday at 4:35 PM

No r41, but I have the spot remover commercial she did dressed as Lady MacBeth.

by Anonymousreply 42Last Friday at 4:48 PM

Can we please stick to the topic on hand, Patty Duke. Thank You!

by Anonymousreply 43Last Friday at 5:10 PM

I'd rather discuss her identical cousin Doris.

by Anonymousreply 44Last Friday at 5:12 PM
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