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Southern California Wildfires Force Thousands to Flee

WTF???

by Anonymousreply 149Last Thursday at 12:45 AM

OP why the WTF?? I don't see what is so odd about this story to cause you to be such a damn MARY! Drop the drama.

by Anonymousreply 112/05/2017

Nice bi polar metal case overreaction, r1.

by Anonymousreply 212/05/2017

Sorry, R3, but he's right. It's Southern California. And Wildfires. No big WTF.

by Anonymousreply 312/05/2017

Not in Dec, r3/hon. Duh!

by Anonymousreply 412/05/2017

This is an example of something blue state california needs to look to red southeatern states. They need to stop focusing on fire supression and incorporate large scale prescribed burns.

by Anonymousreply 512/05/2017

CA is becoming a less habitable place with each year.

by Anonymousreply 612/05/2017

3 wildfires now and the So Cal wildfire don't wipe out out neighborhoods every year. This is usual.

by Anonymousreply 712/05/2017

Santa Paul Ca fire - 175 homes lost and 30,000 people evacuated. 50,000 acres 0% containment. 1 dead.

Sylmar fire - 34 home lost 2,700 homes evacuated

Santa Clarita - 1,000 acres 0% containment.

r1 and r3, YOU'RE WRONG but I'm sure that's not unusual for the two of you.

by Anonymousreply 812/05/2017

It was REALLY windy last night. Combined with the fact that we've had virtually no measurable rain this fall, and you have very dangerous conditions.

by Anonymousreply 912/05/2017

bump

by Anonymousreply 1012/05/2017

........

by Anonymousreply 1112/05/2017

Endless coverage.

by Anonymousreply 1212/05/2017

I feel bad for the people of Santa Clarita. Earlier this year they had a flood, now they have a fire to contend with.

by Anonymousreply 1312/05/2017

No, these fires are different especially on the heals of Santa Rosa.

The weather is just different here now. It's changed. No rain. Long periods of strange high clouds. Wildfires with no chance of containment that hit homes.

by Anonymousreply 1412/05/2017

r1 and r3 on a date.

by Anonymousreply 1512/05/2017

Now Bel Air along the 405.

Homeless people camped in the brush below the expensive houses set fires to keep warm and then the winds rise.

by Anonymousreply 1612/06/2017

Beverly Glen is closed...massive fire.

by Anonymousreply 1712/06/2017

Now it's a rich, white people fire. 405 closed in BOTH directions. END TIMES!

by Anonymousreply 1812/06/2017

Sad Last Days

by Anonymousreply 1912/06/2017

The South has nothing to teach California in the wildfire department. A controlled burn in an area with 50 inches of annual rain is not the same as a controlled burn in an area with 15 inches.

by Anonymousreply 2012/06/2017

These are super-fires, they are advancing a football field a second. This is an ecological disaster.

California is treating them as five different fires: Ventura, San Bernardino, Sylmar, Bel Air, and Santa Clarita.

Live updates:

by Anonymousreply 2112/06/2017

Does anyone think someone is setting these fires?

by Anonymousreply 2212/06/2017

It's strange but these fires almost sound strategic. There will be an exodus of democrats out of these counties if for no other reason that there is nothing to come back to. The fires have destroyed everything.

by Anonymousreply 2312/06/2017

A lot of speculation that these are politically connected arsons. In other times, we would have laughed. How depressing that it would even seem like a possibility.

by Anonymousreply 2412/06/2017

Not gonna happen, R23.

by Anonymousreply 2512/06/2017

If anything, those day laborers will have lots more work because those multi million dollar homes need to be rebuilt. If the fires destroyed neighborhoods like Westwood and WLA, you'd have a bigger problem because many of those homeowners are mortgaged to the teeth and live on credit cards.

by Anonymousreply 2612/06/2017

West Hollywood gays, I think our time has arrived you whores. : (

You stay safe out there and remember we can always set up camp in another part of Souther Cali. Nothing we can't rebuilt later on. Love you all.

by Anonymousreply 2712/06/2017

They're being set. I thought the same about the Nor Cal ones.

by Anonymousreply 2812/06/2017

You can smell the smoke in Santa Monica this AM!

by Anonymousreply 2912/06/2017

OH NO, Rupert Murdoch's home just exploded as per NBC LA.

by Anonymousreply 3012/06/2017

I stand by r16.

by Anonymousreply 3112/06/2017

DM reporting multiple incidents started fires.

by Anonymousreply 3212/06/2017

sorry re 20 but your wrong. The issue isnt just rain or lack there of... it is vegetation. Both have fire dependant ecosystems with vegetation that needs to burn to reproduce. Some parts of Florida get over 90 inches of rain. Yet they are highly fire prone due to native vegetation that is easily ignited by lightening. Waxly vegetation like saw palmeto burns as hot as Chaparral plants in california: both act as accelerants that spread fire which is required for seed germination. In much of the southeast the prescribed fires are done in the driest and coldest months (jan-feb). The chumash indians regualrly conducted prescribed fires to improve biodiversity.

by Anonymousreply 3312/06/2017

But look on the bright side- California is now a Sanctuary State!

by Anonymousreply 3412/06/2017

Hope the Getty Museum survives.

by Anonymousreply 3512/06/2017

California also has some added species like eucalyptus that spread fire.

by Anonymousreply 3612/06/2017

Bel Air and Brentwood had a massive fire in 1961 that burned 500 homes including the homes of Burt Lancaster and Zsa Zsa Gabor.

by Anonymousreply 3712/06/2017

R35, The Getty is the other side of the 405 Freeway, and for now, is not threatened, thanks to calm winds. (they had already planned to be closed today, due to overall air quality/particulate matter from the Sylmar fire).

However, if this fire had started 24 hours earlier, when the winds were blowing so fiercely, it would have been VERY bad news. The fire would have jumped the 405 wthin minutes and would be raging southwest across the hills of Brentwood, threatening the Getty, Mount Saint Mary's college, Mandeville Canyon.

by Anonymousreply 3812/06/2017

I drove Interstate 15 south on Monday and in the stretch from the Cajon Pass down through Ontario, Norco and Corona the wind was hellacious. Trash blowing all over the freeway, dust, the car shaking... I drove slower than normal but many cars were still just flying right along at 80 mph.

by Anonymousreply 3912/06/2017

The fire even made it to the Pacific Ocean.

by Anonymousreply 4012/06/2017

Trump is destroying the world.

by Anonymousreply 4112/06/2017

Jason, get me the hose.

by Anonymousreply 4212/06/2017

Does anyone seriously think they are being set by someone? Who? Why? Or is it natural?

by Anonymousreply 4312/06/2017

Arsonists?

Who wait until the Santa Ana winds come up?

by Anonymousreply 4412/06/2017

Homeless camps, that's where they are starting...

by Anonymousreply 4512/06/2017
by Anonymousreply 4612/06/2017

Magic Mountain

by Anonymousreply 4712/06/2017
by Anonymousreply 4812/06/2017
by Anonymousreply 4912/06/2017

I heard someone on the news say if the fire reaches Santa Paula they'd be unable to do anything about it. I didn't catch why Santa Paula is a problem?

by Anonymousreply 5012/06/2017

It wasn't me!

by Anonymousreply 5112/06/2017

Skirball Fire this morning along the Sepulveda Pass

by Anonymousreply 5212/06/2017

OT but Eric Garcetti's [slow] Spanish is so understandable.

by Anonymousreply 5312/06/2017

r48 I got that alert too.

by Anonymousreply 5412/06/2017

The Santa Ana winds have kicked up again. My windows are rattling and my house keeps popping and creaking.

by Anonymousreply 5512/06/2017

The only thing I can think of about Santa Paula burning is the thin roads and old wood houses

by Anonymousreply 5612/06/2017

Hero

by Anonymousreply 5712/06/2017

No big whoop.

by Anonymousreply 5812/06/2017

In an updated story, though THOUSANDS have fled, MILLIONS of illegals have moved into their homes, on fire or not.

by Anonymousreply 5912/06/2017

It is only getting worse.

by Anonymousreply 6012/07/2017

There was a new fire in Malibu, but it was contained before it could threaten homes.

So I guess Babs's mall won't be having a fire sale.

by Anonymousreply 6112/07/2017

[quote] Does anyone think someone is setting these fires?

Considering the last one affected the wine and weed industries, I wouldn't rule it out.

by Anonymousreply 6212/07/2017

It looks like Mother Nature is having her period.

by Anonymousreply 6312/07/2017

[quote]Arsonists? Who wait until the Santa Ana winds come up?

Are you kidding? That's the perfect cover to make it look accidental.

by Anonymousreply 6412/07/2017

That is truly terrifying shit!

by Anonymousreply 6512/07/2017

Yeah, what R64 said. Why would anyone be surprised that Arsonists would strike when the ideal conditions are met?

by Anonymousreply 6612/07/2017

Is there a law in CA that you must have fire insurance?

by Anonymousreply 6712/07/2017

Guys, I have a bunch of stuff in storage in Monrovia. Do I need to go get it before the warehouse burns down? Can I even get out there at this point? Also, I was planning to go to downtown LA on that trip. Is that a mess too?

I recently sold property in the Temecula area, near Murrieta. For years, there was some nutter out there who would set fires every year. I don’t know if they ever caught him. There were a lot of copycat fires out there year after year, so expect more in the Riverside area. Lots of dry brush near the freeways.

by Anonymousreply 6812/07/2017

The Liberty Fire broke out in Murrieta just this afternoon.

by Anonymousreply 6912/07/2017

It’s probably the copycat pyro out there, R69. Anything near Monrovia yet? Do I have to go rent a truck?

by Anonymousreply 7012/07/2017

Yes, you need fire insurance if you live in certain areas and have a mortgage.

by Anonymousreply 7112/07/2017

[quote] Is there a law in CA that you must have fire insurance?

If you have a mortgage the bank requires it. You don't have to if you don't have a mortgage but it would be completely insane not to have it.

by Anonymousreply 7212/07/2017

How are the DL Californians? Are you safe?

by Anonymousreply 7312/07/2017

Safe, but the air is filled with smoke, and the dry winds are doing a number on my eyes, nose, and throat.

by Anonymousreply 7412/07/2017

Take care of yourself, R74. It must be tough for people with lung conditions.

by Anonymousreply 7512/07/2017

[quote]Guys, I have a bunch of stuff in storage in Monrovia. Do I need to go get it before the warehouse burns down? Can I even get out there at this point? Also, I was planning to go to downtown LA on that trip. Is that a mess too?

I live near Monrovia (where the new Aldi opened today!) No fires anywhere near here. Yet.

by Anonymousreply 7612/07/2017

Today I broke down crying after reading a tweet about people trying to rescue [bold]1,000 horses[/bold] and there not being means to save them. KTLA said the fires were entering Los Angeles National Forest. There are a lot of animal sanctuaries in those areas from mosquitoes to wild cats and elephants. : (

I hate tin hats but this fires are suspicious. People can rebuild houses, and so far people are being smart about evacuating, but the bunnie farms and our animal sanctuaries will not be so lucky. Logistically it seems impossible to save every animal.

by Anonymousreply 7712/07/2017

I live in Ventura. Monday night and Tuesday were the worst in my area. Safe now, but the sky is still hideous and it stinks like a campfire. We're supposed to boil any tap water before using it for drinking, cooking, etc. There's also a curfew from 10PM-5AM, supposedly to prevent looting in evacuated areas.

by Anonymousreply 7812/07/2017

And now San Diego has the Lilac Fires...

by Anonymousreply 7912/07/2017

During ww2, the Japanese hatched a plan to start wildfires in the NW.

Killed one woman on a church picnic in Oregon

by Anonymousreply 8012/07/2017

Russians?

by Anonymousreply 8112/07/2017

One of the tv news anchors said that this was too coincidental to be a natural disaster. I was shocked he said that on tv. I think there is a growing concern with Californians that this might be premeditated.

This fires will definitely change the outcome of the 2018 elections. Maybe the two Russian puppets Darrel Issa and Dana Rohrabacher might be able to keep their seats after all.

by Anonymousreply 8212/08/2017

Rachel Maddow called Rohrabacher "the senator from Moscow" the other day. Just slipped it into a comment about other things. Loved it.

by Anonymousreply 8312/08/2017

r83 He's not a senator, so ???

by Anonymousreply 8412/08/2017

[quote] Los Angeles National Forest.

It's just "Angeles National Forest." No "Los."

by Anonymousreply 8512/08/2017

In the recent fires up north, the owner was able to save 1000 exotic animals in his wildlife sanctuary.

by Anonymousreply 8612/08/2017

[quote]During ww2, the Japanese hatched a plan to start wildfires in the NW.

So, r80, you're saying the Japanese are just slow and with poor direction?

by Anonymousreply 8712/08/2017

Thanks so much, R76.

I have elderly friends in Ventura on East Thompson Road I’m worried about. They have a shop full of antiques and have lived there all their lives.

by Anonymousreply 8812/08/2017

R87, it involved a low tech plan of using the jet stream to drift balloons over the west coast that started fires:

In the 1940s, the Japanese were mapping out air currents by launching balloons attached with measuring instruments from the western side of Japan and picking them up on the eastern side. The researchers noticed that a strong air current traveled across the Pacific at about 30,000 feet. Using that knowledge, in 1944 the Japanese military made what many experts consider the first intercontinental weapon system: explosive devices attached to paper balloons that were buoyed across the ocean by a jet stream.

by Anonymousreply 8912/08/2017

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by Anonymousreply 9012/08/2017

In January of this year, there was some kind of newsletter that came out, from ISIS or ISIS-affiliated org., that put forward the idea of starting wildfires to invoke terror. There was a section in the document, titled Just Terror, that gave highly detailed ways to use fire as a weapon - the inspiration of their idea came from fires in Israel. The details were straight-out disgusting - how to plan the fires to trap exits, where to set them for maximum damage, how, ways to make sure the arsonists don't end up setting themselves on fire in the process, ect.

NOT saying they did it, but the thought has crossed my mind. After reading about the newsletter, of course it did.

by Anonymousreply 9112/08/2017

Here’s an article about the Israeli fires which were treated as a terrorist attack. The article is from November 2016, but it sounds like there were a lot of fires before that.

I read elsewhere that ISIS was suggesting fires as a form of terrorism as early as 2012. People in California are used to fires and take something like this for granted. But it’s pretty obvious at least some of the later fires are probably copycat arson.

It’s not out of the question that somebody that’s organized like the Russians or ISIS could be doing it on purpose. The whole point is terrorism without anyone to retaliate against, since you can’t prove anything.

by Anonymousreply 9212/08/2017

It’s so sad, R77. Stories and video coming out where people are trying to rescue horses have me in tears. The gentle barn (Santa Clarita area I believe) seems ok. Thanks for checking in, R78.

by Anonymousreply 9312/08/2017

r46 i love it the homeless get the last laugh on these overly lavish homes.

by Anonymousreply 9412/08/2017

"She comes down from Yellow Mountain..."

by Anonymousreply 9512/08/2017

...thoughts and prayers

by Anonymousreply 9612/08/2017

R68 The air quality here is awful. I have a relative who works outdoors for the high schools. The grounds employees tried to go back to work today, had to wear masks, and couldn't make it past two hours. If anything, it's worse than yesterday. Hope your friends are ok. (If they own the shop next to the Hong Kong Inn- that place is amazing!)

by Anonymousreply 9712/08/2017

R78, They own a shop in a residential section with another antique store across the street. Both shops are in converted houses.

There is some sort of motel looking thing down the street, and their house/store is amazing. All the walls were painted mustard yellow with Spanish motif floral murals around all the doors by their daughter. They have beautiful furniture and paintings, it’s something really special. Not a junk store, everything is specifically in the Old California style. It would be a shame if they lost that place, it’s their life’s work.

They opened their store in 1979.

by Anonymousreply 9812/08/2017

Oh, ok. I know the place just from your description. I've heard they're very helpful and are wonderful at zooming in on just what you want. Thanks for responding!

by Anonymousreply 9912/08/2017

Is it real now?

Paris Hilton, Lionel Richie, other celebs flee homes as So. Calif. wildfires close in

by Anonymousreply 10012/08/2017

Debby Boone will sing us all to sleep.

by Anonymousreply 10112/08/2017

What the motherfucking hell is going on in Ojai right now? The fire map shows it surrounded on three sides by active fires, with all the major roads in fire zones! Is it even possible to evacuate, if the wind kicks up?

I was there in early November, and yeah, the entire area was tinder-dry.

by Anonymousreply 10212/08/2017

arson should not be dismissed. it's odd.

by Anonymousreply 10312/08/2017

My friend in Ojai couldn't take it there anymore, packed a suitcase and took the train down here to Laguna. She took a video of all the rooms and doesn't give a shit at this point.

by Anonymousreply 10412/08/2017

Like many of you here on DL, I’ve (reluctantly) suspected that several of these fires have been deliberately set.

I’m not a conspiracy theorist and it was another friend out here in SoCal who pointed out to me how so many fires happening in so many unconnected areas in December here was bizarre—and also how the Santa Ana winds are an arsonists dream (good cover for them and helps their “work” spread quickly).

With all the different, unconnected fire locations continuing to pop up and so much damage and destruction happening (I cried seeing the footage of the burning horses running for their lives), this all makes me furious and I’m inclined to think people *are* setting these fires.

I hope the L.A. Sheriff’s Department and the LAPD are developing better arson investigation units so this won’t happen anymore or at least can be stopped quicker in the future.

One confirmed arsonist was caught last night in Anaheim Hills by 2 good Samaritans who saw him sneaking around in the brush in the dark...

by Anonymousreply 10512/09/2017

Why are we focusing on stopping rogue actors of the fires? Why not just stop the Santa Ana winds?

by Anonymousreply 10612/09/2017

Most insurance companies will not insure properties deemed to be in fire areas which is most of the state outside major cities.

So the state of Calif has provided the possibility of fire insurance through the state for those who cannot obtain it through their insurance companies. OK good, but its very expensive Outrageously expensive.

by Anonymousreply 10712/09/2017

@ABC7

Firefighters battling brush fire in Monrovia area

by Anonymousreply 10812/09/2017

@gclaude746

#Huntley Hotel in Santa Monica burning

by Anonymousreply 10912/09/2017

@KTLA

Lilac Fire: At Least 46 Horses Dead, Others Missing From San Diego County Training Facility

by Anonymousreply 11012/09/2017

@KTLA

2 minutes ago

#BREAKING: Evacuations have been ordered as a brush fire burns in Monrovia

by Anonymousreply 11112/09/2017

@11AliveNews

Unexplained plane lights seen over South Carolina county

@RyanHaarer

Strange lights over Denver tonight, too

by Anonymousreply 11212/09/2017

Californians, how are things where you are? How are you?

by Anonymousreply 11312/09/2017

stay safe DLers in CA!!! I'm praying for ya!

by Anonymousreply 11412/09/2017

@abc7melissa

The #thomasfire has now burned 155,000 acres. Fire fighters will do a controlled burn tonight near Lake Casitas to burn brush between the fire and highway 150.

by Anonymousreply 11512/09/2017

Monrovia now

by Anonymousreply 11612/09/2017

r1 and r3 = fucktard douche cunts.

by Anonymousreply 11712/09/2017

How do these individual hotels and homes (like the one in Santa Monica and the few luxe houses in Bel Air) keep getting started on fire??

I still think there’s arson involved here...

by Anonymousreply 118Last Sunday at 1:22 AM

Wildfires do send out sparks, R118, which can set fires at some distance from the main blaze.

But if anyone in the area thinks that a fire insurance payout might be worth the trouble, there might be other explanations....

by Anonymousreply 119Last Sunday at 6:39 AM

They are investigating Monrovia as arson.

by Anonymousreply 120Last Sunday at 6:51 AM

I believe they're being set.

by Anonymousreply 121Last Sunday at 7:02 AM

The Ventura fire just topped 200,000 acres

by Anonymousreply 122Last Sunday at 4:00 PM

who is starting the fires?

by Anonymousreply 123Last Sunday at 4:07 PM

Read In Suspect Terrain by John McPhee. People have no business living there. They should pay for the firefighting

by Anonymousreply 124Last Sunday at 4:08 PM

Ellen's beautiful Santa Barbara home, recently put on the market for $4o mill,' is about to be kindling.

by Anonymousreply 125Last Sunday at 4:13 PM

Houses, or rather estates, currently for sale in Montecito.

Wow.

by Anonymousreply 126Last Sunday at 6:06 PM

Now, looters

by Anonymousreply 127Last Monday at 4:02 PM

One week later, still out of control. 20% of Ventura Co. has been charred.

by Anonymousreply 128Last Tuesday at 6:07 AM

Oprah evacuated as well.

by Anonymousreply 129Last Tuesday at 6:30 AM

[quote]Oprah evacuated as well.

Ex-Lax or probiotics?

by Anonymousreply 130Last Tuesday at 7:13 AM

Forklift.

by Anonymousreply 131Last Tuesday at 7:19 AM

How the fire has grown over the past seven days.

by Anonymousreply 132Last Tuesday at 9:23 AM

God hates remakes.

by Anonymousreply 133Last Tuesday at 10:05 AM

Since the first padres opened the first missions in California, and since the first wagons of settlers came over the Sierras, two things have remained a constant (1) it is a highly-active earthquake zone and (2) Southern California has experienced landslides and wildfires. It they want to build these bigger and bigger mansions higher and higher into the mountainous arid near-desert forests, then go right ahead. Just don't complain when you $40 mil. burns to the ground or crumbles into the ocean.

by Anonymousreply 134Last Tuesday at 10:18 AM

agree, r134

by Anonymousreply 135Last Tuesday at 10:21 AM

I wonder whether the hurricanes keep wildfires from being more prevalent on the east coast.

by Anonymousreply 136Last Tuesday at 10:26 AM

it rains in the summer on the east coast, that's why wildfires aren't such a problem there.

Really, people who live east of the Rockies don't understand how incredibly fucking dry California is by fall, in a normal year most of the state hasn't seen a drop of rain in six months by October. Southern California is naturally prone to wildfires, as the driest and most flammable part of the year coincides with the hard dry Santa Ana winds that blow into the desert; they not only turn a single spark from a cigarette into a raging firestorm, they blow the smoke and fire from wilderness to inhabited areas. Fires are so naturally common there that many of the plant species have evolved to propogate after the fires, they expect them to happen frequently.

Southern California could do a better job of managing fire risk, but I don't know how much can be done. I have no idea if they do controlled burns like they do in the Sierras, but the fact is that no amount of human management can control a force of nature. There ARE going to be fires there, no matter what the humans do, all we can do is work on protecting the inhabited areas.

by Anonymousreply 137Last Tuesday at 11:17 AM

r137 you contradicted yourself.

If the climate is so volatile that a cigarette can cause an inferno, then human management can have a large impact. Earthquakes, which are tectonic phenomena of the earth's crust, can't be prevented by man. All you can do is cut through the usual bureaucratic corruption around building/zoning codes and hope for the best. Some wildfires are natural, but you can prevent many by draconian measures, including kicking homeless out of high fire areas, especially in peak season.

by Anonymousreply 138Last Tuesday at 12:55 PM

When I lived in central California, it was dry most of the year except for 2-3 months starting in February, when it rained and everything briefly turned green.

by Anonymousreply 139Last Tuesday at 1:17 PM

A group of hobos living under the Sepulveda pass started the Skirball- Bel Air fire.

A night around the fire roasting marshmellows went horribly awry.

by Anonymousreply 140Last Tuesday at 1:21 PM

Hobos have money for marshmallows? Or did they kill some other hobos and boil their bones for the gelatin, which was then used to make marshmallows, which then accidentally started the Bel Air fire?

by Anonymousreply 141Last Tuesday at 1:22 PM

I was kidding about the marshmallows, R141.

They were trying to cook up the "campfire hobo dinner" as featured below.

by Anonymousreply 142Last Tuesday at 1:36 PM

@latimes

Breaking: A cooking fire at a homeless encampment sparked Bel-Air's Skirball fire, officials say

by Anonymousreply 143Last Tuesday at 1:44 PM

Hello R143 - please see above!

by Anonymousreply 144Last Tuesday at 1:47 PM

Fossil records show that wildfires have been a problem in the Western U.S. for millennia, before people (including so-called Native Americans) even showed up. Entire species of plant life rely on the fires to spur reproduction. "Hobo campfires" may be blamed for recent fires, but the rampant development of multi-million dollar palaces in these highly susceptible mountainous arid forested regions is just stupid and short-sighted.

by Anonymousreply 145Last Wednesday at 6:45 AM

What is keeping them from just clearing the brush away when it is a threat to human life?

by Anonymousreply 146Last Wednesday at 6:49 AM

R146, all the mountains that surround the Santa Barbara, LA, and San Diego urban areas are naturally covered in "brush". You can't clear all the plant life out of an entire region!

Now all sensible property owners clear the brush away from their houses and in civilized areas the brush is gone and irrigated gardens have taken its place, but that's not enough to stop the wildfires. When the wind is strong and the flames are high, sparks can fly great distances and ignite almost anything, your roof, your garden, the brush on the next hill over, anything will burn because it's all so fucking dry by fall. I suppose there might be a program of clearing brush away from the perimeters of inhabited areas, but that would cost a lot of money, there are ecological concerns, and if you strop the vegetation off a mountainside it becomes more prone to landslides. Mother Nature intends that area to have wildfires, and stopping her getting what she wants is never that easy.

by Anonymousreply 147Last Wednesday at 7:23 AM

R16/R31 called it on the cause of the Skirball (Bel Air) fire.

by Anonymousreply 148Last Wednesday at 9:36 PM

Someone's cookin!

by Anonymousreply 149Last Thursday at 12:45 AM
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