Which roles were given because of the casting couch?

The lead female roles in all of Warren Beatty's films.

Armie Hammer in CMBYN

I reckon 60%.

Zac Efron in anything.

R2, I'd certainly believe it was because the director HOPED to try and get him a piece of Armie. He's admitted to being 'obsessed' with him for years.

God, it involved me, the lizard-faced director, and a "barely legal" twink. Disgusting, but I got the part.

Worse yet, ultracreep Kevin Spacey kept hitting on me during filming.

Actually, what we have learned from everything is that women don’t gain roles from being exploited.

Asia Argento was sexually assaulted & intimidated into continuing sexual contact with Weinstein, the most powerful producer around. He acted like his sick powerplay was a consensual relationship & even offered her jewels, homes, furs etc. But what did he do for her career? Nothing at all.

R7 Weinstein was smart enough to realize that Argento's fucking skills were far better than her acting skills.

Bo Duke, the young John Schneider, perhaps?

Ok, here's my suspicion about the 'casting couch'- I think it's likely it has very little effect in deciding who's eventually picked for the role. I suspect that for every actor who sucked off the guy with the couch and won the role, at least a half a dozen other competing actors were also conned into fucking him, and he role just went to whoever was going to get it anyway .

Ryan Gosling in most of his movies.

R10 but the other side of that is those who refuse to put out may not be considered at all.

Drew Barrymore ate Penny Marshall’s pussy to get the starring role in “Riding in Cars With Boys”.

Mmm r13, I bet that was yummy!

R13 Love that movie.

Chrissy

Anything TImberlake

Gwyneth Paltrow in ANYTHING, i am guessing. Tried re-watching Emma last night and i was shocked at how ugly she looks in the movie (little tiny bald skull fused to a giant nose and jaws. Freakish really). How appallingly bad her English accent is. How really painful her performance is. Harvey must have been totally turned on by the schiksa jewess aspect of her persona. Emma is so extreme in its ridicukous casting of GP, i have to think her parents were fine with this, maybe encouraged it. It would explain the off the charts entitlement.

Sofia Coppola in THE GODFATHER PT 3.

Sharon Stone in everything. Girl can’t act.

Sebastian Spence?

Everything Cavill.

Abe Vigoda as Fish on "Barney Miller"

Danny DeVito gave it up to get the dispatcher role on Taxi.

[quote]schiksa jewess

Now there’s an oxymoron.

I wonder what lurid acts Casey Affleck had to do with the writers of Good Will Hunting to get a role in that film.

Screech from Saved by the Bell.

Just about all the pretty people who appeared in anything. The ones that last though are the ones who have some sort of talent or charisma that for what ever reason reaches out and grabs people. Not all pretty people have it.

[quote]the schiksa jewess aspect of her persona

Make up your mind.

I think Caitlyn Jenner might be a "shegetz" R29.

You, however would be a "shaygetz"

(All good, it was just too hard to leave the easy joke lying there)

"Shegetz" isn't wrong, R30, but that was terrifically funny.

Mr. Ed. It helped that he was hung like a-- well, you know.

Thank you R31.

The correct spelling is actually שיגץ

Any transliterations are up to the individual, hence all the various ways to spell Hanukkah

Didn't we hear this about Seacrest at the start? He was a protege of mogul Merv Griffin and rode that American Idol gig to mogul status himself

Rumor is that Dave Franco had to sleep with the producer of "The Disaster Artist" to get his part.

R34 it's been known for decades about Gaycrest. An older gay friend of mine said how when Gaycrest was first getting into the entertainment biz as an adult decades ago you always saw him with the closeted gay Merv Griffin.

I also heard that Tony Danza was one of Merv's guys.

I'm guessing that Megan Fox, Lohan, Jennifer Lawrence, and others were products of the casting couch.

As I said before, and I believe it (even though it came from Darwin Porter), that George Cukor would only give walk-ons to boyfriends. He maintained, perhaps rightly so, that movies were way to big an investment to allow the casting couch,

Lassie. That bitch was a SLUT!

R38 that may be true but many women’s roles amount to little more than a walk on girlfriend part.

Hand-held shower nozzle is the poor man's bidet.

Marjorie Main. That's how she got to do all those Ma and Pa Kettle movies.

Ouch!

Marjorie was rehearsing for her audition for “Strait-jacket “ in that pic at r43.

Marie Dressler slept with George Cukor to get her comeback role in Dinner at Eight.

Is that what turned him gay?

Jeff Stryker - Powertool.

Emmanuel Lewis - Webster

I am relatively certain that the casting couch is 100% part of any young, hot actor's job description. You have to be cute, have some ability and then do SOMETHING that gets the casting director's attention. This does mean full on sex, but you are required to be an exhibitionist at minimum. Not all roles require this - and there are plenty of parts for old, fat, whatever type characters. Talent is talent, but the sexy roles go to the seducers. The casting directors are not actually the predators in most cases - they are the prey. They hold the cards and the sexy young studs (or starlets) want what they have to offer. It is an easy equation. I know firsthand about sexy Disney actors who at the age of 14/15 or so seduced older men to get roles. No sex, but allowing themselves to be pinched, groped, spanked, molested. I am friends with a few (now in their 20's) who did just that. And they are straight guys too...

Who were they R49? Did that happen to Timberlake and Brittney?

Gwyneth Paltrow in Emma

John Stamos

Jude Law - Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil

"I know firsthand about sexy Disney actors who at the age of 14/15 or so seduced older men to get roles. No sex, but allowing themselves to be pinched, groped, spanked, molested. I am friends with a few (now in their 20's) who did just that. And they are straight guys too..."

Can you introduce some of these teen actors to me?

Between the casting couch and nepotism (or other very closely related connections) I would estimate that there are very few working in media that made it on talent alone.

Colin "Whore" Farrell owes his career to Kevin Spacey and Joel Schumacher.

I've heard that Weinstein was utterly obsessed with Michelle Williams and Marion Cotillard and definitely fucked Michelle Williams a lot. Poor michelle.

Half the cast of Transparent?

I remember some old time actress saying and I forget who if you weren't willing to sleep with a producer there was an actress right behind you who was.

Suzanne Farrell Balanchine's brightest and most gifted dancer the epitome of all he was seeking in his art was forced into leaving the City Ballet because she refused to sleep with him.

59 responses and no one has said Jennifer Lawrence?

[quote]Actually, what we have learned from everything is that women don’t gain roles from being exploited.

LOL, no. The ones who either didn't put out, or put out and didn't get roles are coming forward. The ones who put out and actually got roles are staying silent.

Armie Hammer being hired (and, afterwards, recommended to Eastwood) by Spacey, working with Tom Ford and being Guadagnino's favourite companion animal.

Just name some young, attractive actors who were at the Old Vic when Spacey was artistic director

R49 That's disgusting.

He was "mentored" by Kevin Spacey at the Old Vic

Does someone start one of these threads every other week?

bumping

From the olden days of Hollywood, supposedly a young Marion Morrison who later became John Wayne

That's disturbing and creepy R49, but not surprising at all.

No...not Colin Morgan

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Years ago Details magazine ran an article for young actors trying to break into show business. They recommend that the guys have a gay male friend demonstrate how to give a fantastic blow job because that talent would be indispensable.

[quote]They recommend that the guys have a gay male friend demonstrate how to give a fantastic blow job because that talent would be indispensable.

They could've just asked Nancy Reagan.

All of mine

We need a link to article R71

It can'y hurt!

Look at Joan Crawford's meteoric rise from NOWHERE.

She was a very poor girl who started college, but lasted less than a year before the siren song of working in Chicago nightclubs as...well, talent of some sort. Then within ONE year, she moves to NYC ending up in the chorus of TWO Broadway shows within six months...again, with all of her "talent". Then, out of the blue she is "scouted" by Benny Thau of MGM, and given a one-way train ticket to Los Angeles and a six-month contract at MGM, where she applied her.....talent. She is playing leading roles within about a year. She somehow managed to distinguish herself from hundreds of newbies under contract and thousands of taller, prettier more trained girls in Hollywood. You think?

I am guessing her talent wan't what we think of as "acting"

*can't

R75, the movie studios used to send out talent scouts to scour chorus lines and nightclubs all over the US, not for beauties or talent necessarily, but for photogenic faces. And by some lucky accident Joan Crawford was fantastically photogenic, plus she had screen presence out the wazoo and even learned how to act!

So it's not surprising that she managed to rise rapidly in Hollywood once she got there, she was just what they wanted. Of course she probably fucked every man in a suit in the LA Basin to help herself along, but blowjobs alone don't explain her meteoric rise.

But Joan Crawford was ALSO gorgeous and she was talented too. She fine in her early roles.

Gretchen Mol - "Rounders" - Her original Vanity Fair cover has been removed from Goggle Images.

There are several results returned in Google searach for Mol's VF cover r79.

Lucille Ball. She was fucking the head of RKO, Pandro Berman. And don'tell me Harry Cohn didn't get some of that snatch when she was a "starlet" at Columbia.

Valerie Perrine admitted that to get the role of Honey in "Lenny", she had to fuck Bob Fosse.

Never have I ever!!!!

I would never do that

Paul Mercurio. THAT ASS, that body, that adorably handsome face and no ability to act whatsoever. He was downright terrible when he opened his mouth, but none of us could stop looking at him. Some casting director was sniffing that ass and likely far more...

[quote]But Joan Crawford was ALSO gorgeous and she was talented too. She fine in her early roles.

Sure she was pretty and fine in leading roles ONCE SHE GOT STARTED as a movie star, but it's the "getting started" we are talking about, right?

Peril Meryl had to suck off Harvey W. to play Margaret Snatcher. He came all over her granny tits.

Can't sing. Can't dance. Too old for the role.

So how else do you think Lucy landed the lead in MAME?

The casting couch is real!

Robbie Amell in Nine Lives

Meryl probably had to sleep with Wankstain, and call him G-d.

r37 Any female lead of Michael Bay's, not just Megan Fox. Rosie Huntington-Whiteley was hired specifically to service Bay during filming to avoid all the Fox drama. He and Fox would go at each other on set like a 50s film noir, and TPTB finally had enough. Allegedly, of course.

He's also allegedly hooked up with some high level female actors; names you wouldn't expect. I guess they were curious about the monster cock rumours. I was surprised when I heard that, because he normally goes for porn stars and Asian escort types.

well name the names r91. What 'high level female actors' hooked up with him?

R91 Sounds like a real prince charming.

Who were they R91? Can you at least give hints?

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I'm thinking Gretchen Mol in the films Rounders and Celebrity. Both films were released in 1998 by Miramax. Famke Janssen also appeared in both films, so maybe she's another candidate (she also received higher billing in both films despite not being an "it girl" like Mol).

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Zac Efron

Brandon Routh in Superman returns

[Quote] Brandon Routh in Superman returns

What a waste.

r99, good one!!!!

Do you think Merv fucked Ryan or Ryan fucked Merv?

Zandaya for all of her gigs outside of Disney was because of Harvey. That's why she wasn't as vocal in #metoo when it came to naming names and confronting him.

You know Darren Criss sucks off Ryan Murphy, and he made the casting couch joke in an attempt at deflection because who would joke about such a thing??

Chris Hemsworth, for Thor.

Rumour is Liam Hemsworth made a deal with the devil. In exchange for fame he would rent out his good reputation to help deflect the bad press Miley Cyrus was getting for her skanky reputation.

Wow in just five years, Miley Cyrus has come a long way with her image...now she's back to being that girl next door.

[quote] Just about all the pretty people who appeared in anything.

That's a ridiculous statement. As in almost all things in life pretty people get a lot of work and benefits in life just because they ARE pretty. They need do nothing more. "PRETTY" has its own power. Sometimes that's exactly what is needed for the role - a beautiful face or screen presence.

Quite frankly Paltrow was very good in Emma. She plays a snooty bitch very well.

R106 = Miley's publicist.

r107, most actors are pretty. Being pretty alone will not make you stand out in Hollywood.

R107 I think Paltrow sucked in Emma---that stupid accent alone made her ridiculous.

I saw a YouTube video of a AHS fan panel with the cast and Ryan Murphy etc. Evan Peters said something like he’d given his all and his butt, to Murphy. There was a lot of nervous reaction, forced laughing, changing the subject. Brad Falchuk looked furious and disgusted.

Jesse Metcalfe in Desperate Housewives.

R112. I would say Jesse Metcalfe in DH is a cert. Can you imagine what Marc Cherry made him do.

Colin Farrell was absolutely a casting couch case. One year he was in this BBC Irish show called Ballykisdangel the next year he is starring in all of Joel Schumacher’s Hollywood films!!

Someone once said something interesting to me. That people see The Casting Couch as this one time thing - have sex for the part, job done. But it’s way more than that. These men and women have to effectively become mistresses or trade to these influential men. If the wannabe doesn’t get a part and launch before the executive loses interest, they have no hope. As the executive not only dumps them but wrecks any chance they have of a career as they are seen as a liability. The fame and success guarantees their silence.

I wasn’t so aware of how Weinstein was operating, but I know the gay ones like Schumacher and Spacey pass young men around. So the likes of Farrell, Channing Tatum and Ryan Phillippe were literally fucked by a selection of gay men in the industry before they got their first big roles.

Who did Ryan Philippe and Channing Tatum fuck?

[quote]Who did Ryan Philippe and Channing Tatum fuck?

clearly not me...

R114, this will help you put the pieces of the puzzle together.

R116 a Harvey Weinstein production featuring Angelina Jolie. I thought she refused to work with him or something?

It depends how old that movie is R117. She said she wouldn't work with him...so was it before or after she said that comment especially since Jolie made her debut in the early 1980s

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Taylor Lautner

r116, so did they fuck Sean Connery?!

[quote]Taylor Lautner

In what role(s)?

Rumor had it that Mitzi Gaynor SNATCHED the role of Nellie Forbush in SOUTH PACIFIC away from Doris Day by cozying up to the right studio executive once upon a time.

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R18 oh, now stop! Goop is actually perfect in EMMA. Alongside HARD 8, I think it’s her best performance.

Busy beaver Jennifer Jones in SINCE YOU WENT AWAY. Shtupping David O. Selznick for all she was worth while plotting his divorce from Irene....

Ahem.

Jess in All That Jazz

[quote] Busy beaver Jennifer Jones

Her beaver WAS busy!

Most of Gwyneth Paltrow's first roles.

Michelle Williams is such a marginal actress, so I'm sure she sucked and squatted on some cock for her roles.

I would guess that conservatively at least 75% were cast following this policy (sex, molestation, sadistic or voyeuristic behavior..). Connections and nepotism are the few exceptions. Good looks and talent are sought after commodities in Hollywood - but hundreds of thousands of hungry, fresh hotties fit that bill. Supply and demand - pure and simple. The system has all the power (and always will) and the hoards of "quarterbacks" and "head cheerleaders" from every town/city on earth who will do whatever it takes to get in the door fuel this fire. Easy equation.

r111, so that's why he keeps casting Peters in lead roles on AHS? Peters is threatening to spill the beans...

Sorry, R126.

Is that JLaw or RyPhi?

Alicia Vikander owes her career to the casting couch

How could you not recognize JLaw's bukkake face, R132?? After The Fappening", I feel like the world has given her a collective gynaecological exam.

Marisa Tomei is another actress who was cast by Weinstein early on in her career.

One reporter/reviewer recently said Alicia Vikander lacked star power when reviewing that Tomb Raider film; it may have been Sandy Kenyon on ABC. I was sort of shocked he said it. There was so much one could read into that statement.

R126 Fake.

R129 There are rumours about Michelle and Heavy.

The list would be much shorter for those who got their roles without using the casting couch.

R136 = JLaw's publicist.

Rumor has no such thing, R122.

Mitzi Gaynor got the part because Rodgers and Hammerstein insisted on casting actors who would do their own singing. They were very interested in young Elizabeth Taylor, but her singing was not nearly good enough. That requirement eliminated any number of young actresses who might have been competition for Mitzi. Doris Day was HORRIBLY managed by her husband who refused to allow her to audition. That was the end of her. R&H didn't want to deal with her or her husband after that. Which led them back to Mitzi.

Goop, Michele Williams, Amy Adams, Jennifer Lawrence, Cotillard, Binoche, Audrey Tautou

Kidman, Charlize Theron, Zellweger, Catherince Zeta Jones, Winslet, Thurman, Vikander, Rooney Mara

Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek, Kerry Washington,Zendaya, Irène Jacob, Kate Beckinsale

for Weinstein produced films

[r140] where those Weinstein produced films, or Weinstein distributed films? Distribution usually happens after the film is made, right? The actress doesn't have any control if he comes aboard the project after they've filmed it.

[quote]r49 The casting directors are not actually the predators in most cases - they are the prey. They hold the cards

Casting directors may decide who gets most of the auditions on any given project, but its directors and producers who have final say over who's eventually hired. Directors and producers also make requests for performers they want to see, and a casting director has no control over that.

The casting director will schedule, run, and tape the auditions, then the director and producers will use those tapes to make decisions about further readings. Or (if its a small role) just flag who they want. A casting director is part of these discussions, but it's not like they go to the top and say, "Okay, the auditions went well. I hired all the actors."

The writer is sometimes included in the casting process, but not always.

Oprah will suck any dick or lick any cunt to be on tv

I always wonder how much the parents of child actors know about this filthy business.

[quote]r107 Quite frankly Paltrow was very good in Emma. She plays a snooty bitch very well.

I really can't fault Goop's acting in that, or pretty much anything.

She played some nastier characters early on, like a grifter in FLESH AND BONE and a Vegas hooker in HARD 8. I wish she'd kept that up.

Michelle Williams a “marginal actress,” R129?

She was excellent in “Blue Valentine” against the less-restrained Ryan Gosling, played a convincing (and touching) Marilyn Monroe in “My Week with Marilyn,” and devastating in “Wendy and Lucy.” And now she’s playing Gwen Verdon? She’s got talent.

Any young, cute actor in a Kevin Spacey movie

R146 you're certainly nicer than Joey.

It is so unfortunate what the untalented and the not-so-pretty had to do for a picture. I cannot imagine exposing it all to anyone like that Lawrence girl. A lady need to have class.

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R146 Maybe convincing Marilyn Monroe if you've never heard of Marilyn Monroe before....

Katherine McPhee on that now cancelled CBS show.

I remember reading a rumor on several different sites back in the day that Mark Hamill used the casting couch for the role of Luke Skywalker. It wasn't with George Lucas, though. I can't remember who it was. Maybe a casting director? But the rumor was the role was down to Hamill and someone else (can't remember who). Hamill was willing to do what the someone else wasn't, so Hamill got the part.

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